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Speaker 1: And with that, he went to Notre Dame. He's a

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Speaker 1: proud Pittsburgh Steeler, a Hall of Famer, six Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 1: You know him, we know him, we all know him.

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Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis is joining us. You know, great to see again.

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Speaker 1: Two things can be true. I can think Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: was amazing, and I think it's kind of time to

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Speaker 1: put the money on offense. Maybe go with a young

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Speaker 1: offensive guy. I don't just because a replace it. I

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Speaker 1: like hardball. Maybe it's time. You know, are you cunning

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Speaker 1: in that camp that you love Tomlin? I mean Cower

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Speaker 1: was your guy. But there is an argument they feel

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Speaker 1: a little outdated offensively, do they not?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Because the philosophy of when I was playing that you

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Speaker 4: run the ball and you know you played great defense,

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Speaker 4: that is totally changed. Now you've got to put points

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Speaker 4: on the board. And that's the problem that the Stellers

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Speaker 4: are having. They're not putting points on the board, and

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Speaker 4: so that you have to fix because you're not going

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Speaker 4: to win football games. You know, with seven points, ten points,

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Speaker 4: thirteen points, that won't win. He's NFL, So you know,

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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago it was different. Today's NFL.

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Speaker 3: You got to score, and I think that's where the

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Speaker 3: Stellers are struggling now.

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Speaker 1: Like again, I love the idea that Mike Tomlin didn't

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Speaker 1: have a losing season, But I said, the reason the

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Speaker 1: Patriots got Drake May they were awful, and the Bears

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Speaker 1: got Caleb because they were awful. What about this idea?

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Speaker 1: You got a ton of draft picks, you go to

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Speaker 1: a Stefan Skiramarcus Freeman, You're like, we don't fire com coaches.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna load this roster up. We got a first,

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Speaker 1: a second, three thirds, two force. We may we'll draft

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Speaker 1: a backup, but we're stacking the roster. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: awful for a year. I mean, that's really uncomfortable for

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Speaker 1: Steeler Nation because they're never awful. Do you think that's

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Speaker 1: something you can sell to the Rooneys.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you could sell that.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough one because I think be coach Tomlin

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Speaker 4: created a situation where they see what we can rebuild

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Speaker 4: in at least be five hundred.

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Speaker 3: So if you're not, you know at least five hundred, they're.

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Speaker 4: Looking at you like, well, you know you're doing something

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Speaker 4: wrong where I agree with you. At some point you

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Speaker 4: gotta fall apart and you gotta go out and get

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Speaker 4: the quarterback, or you said in yourself, we're going to

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Speaker 4: invest a lot of resources, we're gonna get that first

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Speaker 4: to use another first, and we don't go get a

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Speaker 4: quarterback right right now, I don't see the quarterback in

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Speaker 4: their future in terms of in college.

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Speaker 3: But they're going to at some point say we gotta.

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Speaker 4: Go get the quarterback, and if that means utilizing those

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Speaker 4: resources and those first round picks, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: do it because they they've seen what happens when you

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Speaker 4: don't invest in the quarterback, right and so you're not

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Speaker 4: going anywhere. You can make it to the playoffs, but

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Speaker 4: you're gonna lose in the first round because quarterback plays

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Speaker 1: I don't see them hiring John Harball. They were reportedly

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Speaker 1: paying Tomlin a lot of money seventeen million, So Hardball's

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Speaker 1: in that class. Do you think they would consider hiring

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Speaker 4: No, and I'll tell you this, and the Ravens will

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Speaker 3: Hiring a stealer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, look, I'm doing that nice line. I get it.

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Speaker 3: It can't be.

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Speaker 4: Here's tire you, but it can't be at the last time.

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Speaker 4: You can't come right when the Ravens right into Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: That just doesn't work. So I don't think. I think

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Speaker 4: both guys will be excluded from those franchises because it's

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Speaker 4: just too much bad blood.

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Speaker 1: Too much Marcus Freeman would be at the top of

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Speaker 1: my list. Would you stant Notre Dame or take the Steelers?

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Speaker 1: Steelers is a blue blood. It's one of the five

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Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness, I think because of what you have

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Speaker 4: to do in Pittsburgh. It's a very dangerous job. So

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Speaker 4: I would not be in a rush to leave my

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Speaker 4: We're ready to go. We've got the players in place.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be in a rush to leave that when

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Speaker 4: I don't have my quarterback figured out in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: because what we have learned this is a quarterback centric

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Speaker 4: league and if you do not have your quarterback, you

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Speaker 4: have absolutely nothing. So as program the organization, rather as

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Speaker 4: do about the quarterback position? And because that's going to

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Speaker 4: be your legacy in essence, if you go to Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: if you win, is you figured the quarterback sation situation out?

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised Mike Tomlin, you know him? Were you

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Speaker 1: surprised he stepped down?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised. When you start hearing the fans turn

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Speaker 4: on you, the writing is on the wall, and you

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Speaker 4: can prolong it if you want to, but you're not

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Speaker 4: because what happens is it poisons the players, and then

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Speaker 4: Poisons the players, now it poisons the some of the

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Speaker 4: So I think coach Tomlin did the right thing to

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Speaker 4: do to secure his legacy, right, because if you allow

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Speaker 4: it to go rock bottom, then you have kind of

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Speaker 4: destroyed your legacy there in Pittsburgh. So I think he

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Speaker 4: did the right thing. The rioting was on the wall.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have I would. I mean, I believe he

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Speaker 4: really circle down on you, I think it's time for

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Speaker 4: you to move on and look at the next opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin could do broadcasting. He'd be great at it, But

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Speaker 1: like Mike Vrabel, I think he's a football guy that

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Speaker 1: could do TV, but it's not his makeup. He's like

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Speaker 1: he calls it the dark side, like, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing that. But I also don't see him as

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Speaker 1: going west. I tend to think Miami Dolphins, New York Giants,

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Speaker 1: Like if I said to you, we got nine openings, now,

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Speaker 1: we got Vegas, we got forget the Ravens. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna hire him. You know, that's the Steeler raven thing.

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Speaker 1: Is there a place Atlanta, Miami Giants? Is there an

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Speaker 1: you know, him, Oh yeah, that works for Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 3: I think probably two places.

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Speaker 4: Looking at the Giants and their situation and the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 4: I think looking at them historically defensively hated, they understand it,

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Speaker 4: I think those two places, and they have I think

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Speaker 3: So I think those two teams would be teams.

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Speaker 4: That if I'm tim I'm looking at it, and I'm

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Speaker 4: saying the Giants similar ownership structure, very solid, willing to

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Speaker 4: and really change the culture.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski doesn't have a great win loss record, but

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Speaker 1: I think he's offensive, he's smart, he knows the division.

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Speaker 1: If I say Kevin Stefanski, now the record's not glossy,

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Speaker 1: but he did beat the Steelers with Baker in a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. What do you make about Stefanski as a Steeler.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be it would be a challenge,

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Speaker 4: but I would I would like Stefanski in the sense

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Speaker 4: But he also obviously understands the defensive side, so because

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Speaker 4: So he would be a guy that I would look

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Speaker 4: at now, the fact that he just came from Cleveland,

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Speaker 4: I would say, you know, it may give a little pause,

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Speaker 4: the next organization that decides to give him an opportunity,

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Speaker 4: and especially if he can get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's the concern in Pittsburgh. You've got to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Stefanski would go from the chaos of Cleveland

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Speaker 1: that's that's what he hasn't had. He's had players, he's had,

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Speaker 1: he just hadn't have stability. So that would be good friend.

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Speaker 1: Jerome bettis the Hall of Famer, great seniors always thank you,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine, like, if

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Speaker 1: you're Stefanski, You've done a lot of things right, but

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Speaker 1: you've never had stability. Even Baker, young Baker there was

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Speaker 1: you know, well he's starting some fires at the podium

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Speaker 1: with the media and barking to go to Pittsburgh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: your organization's not crazy, They're not impulsive. I think it's

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Speaker 1: so interesting that Stefanski gets booted by Cleveland and could

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Speaker 1: potentially upgrade to Baltimore or the Steelers and beat the

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Speaker 1: Browns for a decade. That that is chef's kiss. That

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Speaker 1: would that would be about as good as it gets

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Speaker 1: even Jerome Bettis said he's not sure the Steelers would

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Speaker 1: be comfortable bottoming out. And you know the Bears, they

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Speaker 1: were about a six win team or something. They get

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Now they made it. They moved up to

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Speaker 1: get that number one pick. But Drake May is an

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Speaker 1: example of you got to be bad to get Drake May.

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Speaker 1: You got to be not very good to get bow Nicks.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is not a great quarterback draft class.

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Speaker 1: I could see the Steelers just saying, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: going to reach on ty Simpson, but then we're just

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Speaker 1: going I would draft all defense. They need to get

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Speaker 1: a number two receiver. You got a couple fours. You

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Speaker 1: can pick it up there. But I would I would

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Speaker 1: go edge, defensive end, corners, safeties, another defensive tackle alongside

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Speaker 1: the kid from Oregon. I think they got to get younger, faster,

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Speaker 1: uh less expensive on defense. Here's here's j Mack with

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Speaker 2: This is the herdline news.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with some grim news for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 6: I knew that Gabe Davis went down with an injury,

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Speaker 6: but Colin they also lost Tyrrel Shavers, who's also good

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Speaker 6: on special teams and Josh Palmer in a just a

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Speaker 6: beat down against the Jags. I mean, we losing three receivers.

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Speaker 6: How's this? Buffalo will only have three wide receivers available

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Speaker 6: Con that is tremendous. Okay, So Ty Simpson is the

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing is that he's not a great

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Speaker 1: I'm being told to go mid to late first round. Well,

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Speaker 1: The advantage for ty Simpson is, let's say, and my

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this situation was since it's weird, so we got

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Speaker 1: And that's what I was told in season. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: I do think he made the right decision, Colin, But

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to announce today whether what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: But if he comes out next year, they're gonna nitpick

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy sum of money. Well, this is why

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Speaker 6: In the NBA, Anthony Davis has hurt again, and it's

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Speaker 6: And remember now they have Kyrie Irving and there's all

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Speaker 1: And help us get No, no, no, no, no, you want

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Speaker 1: What do you do with ad? I mean not much.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news. According to Chefty Schefter, Oregon quarterback Dante Moore

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Speaker 1: for me, I think this is the NIL. Everybody sees

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Speaker 1: First of all, it allows quarterbacks like Dante Moore. Most

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Speaker 8: in money and a way of the thing.

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Speaker 3: I remember.

433
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Speaker 8: You know, I was a young guy and I got

434
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Speaker 8: an X amount of dollars and you know, I was

435
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Speaker 8: content with that, and he pulled me over to the site.

436
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Speaker 7: He said, let me tell you some He said, you

437
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 7: got a financial advasor for that little money. But he said, man,

438
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 7: come back and talk to me when you get three

439
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 7: or four contracts. And you know, one of my best

440
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 7: stories is I was in Buffalo and he's done here.

441
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 7: He probably don't even remember telling me that, but I

442
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 7: walked up to him when I was at the Bills

443
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Speaker 7: and I was on the back end and getting ready

444
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 7: to retire, and I say, hey, Mike t I went

445
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 7: and got through or four contracts, and you right.

446
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 8: Man, that money is a lot better.

447
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 7: And I definitely was thinking small, and so he had

448
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 7: me thinking big. And that's what type of player coach

449
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Speaker 7: he is. He's always going to give it to you,

450
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 7: real role, authentic, uh, and.

451
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Speaker 3: You know it.

452
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Speaker 7: Depending on how you take it, you might not like it,

453
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Speaker 7: but you know that he has your best interest. And

454
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Speaker 7: that's why I always love him.

455
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Speaker 6: Man.

456
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Speaker 7: You know what we were talking about off air of

457
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Speaker 7: like you know, coaches making players. He was one of

458
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 7: those guys that truly was a blessing for me to

459
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Speaker 7: get drafted with him because he just changed my whole

460
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Speaker 7: mindset in the way that I was thinking about I

461
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Speaker 7: wanted about my business.

462
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Speaker 1: I love hearing that. So you're in Denver and you

463
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Speaker 1: told me something during the break. You used to think

464
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Speaker 1: players made coaches, but maybe you're watching Sean Payton and

465
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Speaker 1: bow Knicks. I mean, you tell me how your world

466
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Speaker 1: has sort of changed on.

467
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Speaker 3: How you view that.

468
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, you just look at these quarterbacks, all right,

469
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Speaker 7: and it's no shot the bow Knicks.

470
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Speaker 2: But you know, even with me, like in.

471
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Speaker 7: Twenty fourteen, you know, I was blessed to play with Payton,

472
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Speaker 7: and once I got with Peyton, and once I got

473
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Speaker 7: in that offense, I went the Pro Bowls.

474
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Speaker 8: In fifteen, I was with Peyton and I won a

475
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl. And then you know, like I had a

476
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Speaker 8: couple of coaches who.

477
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Speaker 7: You know, I can't say they were bad, but they

478
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Speaker 7: just weren't at the pinnacle of the game and for me.

479
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Speaker 8: To have success.

480
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Speaker 7: And so I look at the systems that I was in,

481
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Speaker 7: the coaches that I had, and I noted I had success.

482
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Speaker 3: Even when I got with Kyle.

483
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Speaker 8: Shanahan, I had success with him because he knew what

484
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Speaker 8: he was doing.

485
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Speaker 7: He was in control of the controller if he was

486
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Speaker 7: playing Madden, and he was controlling and calling.

487
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Speaker 8: Them plays and putting me in the best position to succeed.

488
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Speaker 7: And so and that's what I see with you know,

489
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Speaker 7: with these quarterbacks these days, right like Bo Knicks, man like, yeah,

490
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Speaker 7: he's a hell of a player, but man.

491
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Speaker 8: Was he blessed and and to be able.

492
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Speaker 7: To get with Sean Payton because I played with Sean

493
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Speaker 7: Payne too in New Orleans. And when I tell you,

494
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Speaker 7: Sean Payton, you know, is a defensive coordinator nightmare. Especially

495
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Speaker 7: when I was in New Orleans. He was always two

496
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Speaker 7: or three plays ahead of the defensive coordinator. He knew

497
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Speaker 7: where he wanted to go, He attacked where he was

498
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Speaker 7: supposed to attack, and we had a lot of success.

499
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Speaker 8: You know, we ended up winning the NFC South that year.

500
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Speaker 8: And that's why I.

501
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Speaker 7: Say, you know, coaches make players, like players don't make coaches.

502
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Speaker 7: It's all about the system that you're in that allows

503
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Speaker 7: you to flourish.

504
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Speaker 1: Your last year in the league. You played with Josh

505
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Speaker 1: Allen in Buffalo, so you're gonna see Denver guys and

506
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Speaker 1: Bill's guys at the game this weak. It's great for you.

507
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Speaker 1: I think you told me a story because you you

508
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Speaker 1: got Josh wasn't quite what we see now, but you

509
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Speaker 1: said you had a pretty good inclination that it was

510
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Speaker 1: gonna be all time stuff.

511
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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I mean, dude, I mean just just from

512
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Speaker 7: the toughness right of the quarter the way that he

513
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 7: plays a quarterback musician like, I mean, he's like a

514
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Speaker 7: running back playing quarterback, but he's not built like a

515
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Speaker 7: running back. He's six foot five and just just a

516
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Speaker 7: machine and then just a rocket of a arm.

517
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Speaker 8: But you know, like as much as talent as.

518
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Speaker 7: He had, you root for guys like him, because what

519
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Speaker 7: I tell you, my time was my time there, Like

520
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 7: he was one of the best teammates that I had.

521
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Speaker 7: I truly enjoyed being around him. It was always light energy,

522
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Speaker 7: like always having fun. Yet when we get in the game,

523
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Speaker 7: he would turn it on. But it was always fun

524
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Speaker 7: to go out and compete with him because you know

525
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Speaker 7: that he was he was, he was gonna give it

526
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Speaker 7: as all and that's why I always respected Josh. And

527
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Speaker 7: you know, the success that he's having, it's no surprise

528
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Speaker 7: because he wants it.

529
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Speaker 8: And I know how bad he wants that Super Bowl too.

530
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Speaker 7: But I don't know, man, those Broncos in the way,

531
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Speaker 7: it's I'm kind of I'm kind of in between of

532
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 7: like Josh and the Broncos. But you know, I you know,

533
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Speaker 7: I bleed orange and blue. So it's gonna it's gonna

534
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Speaker 7: be a fun little game.

535
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Kyle Shanahan. Shanahan last week,

536
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Speaker 1: Kittle gets hurt early, the defense has lost all its players,

537
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Speaker 1: and you've had a lot of different coaches. Tomlin, you

538
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: said it was like a father figure, Sean Payton was

539
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Speaker 1: like a mad scientist.

540
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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: In your time with Shanahan, how do you compartmentalize him?

542
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Speaker 3: What is he like? U?

543
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Speaker 8: H O f Hall of Fame to me? And I've

544
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Speaker 8: been saying this for years.

545
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Speaker 7: I actually did an interview I think it was last

546
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Speaker 7: year or two years ago. It was some radio station

547
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 7: out in San Frian and very Sam, what do you

548
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 7: think about the fans saying that they should fire Kyle Shanahan,

549
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Speaker 7: And I said, out of their mind.

550
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Speaker 8: I said, like, like, what do you what is there

551
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Speaker 8: even to think about you?

552
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Speaker 7: You guys have one of the greatest offensive in the

553
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Speaker 7: history of the National.

554
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Speaker 8: Football League in my opinion.

555
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Speaker 7: And I say that because I've been around him, and

556
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Speaker 7: I've had some pretty good coordinators myself.

557
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Speaker 8: And when I tell you, like Sean Payton is a

558
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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame coach to me.

559
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Speaker 7: And college because these guys always put you in position

560
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 7: to win. While other defensive coordinators are playing checkers, they're

561
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 7: playing chess. It's a whole nother game that they're playing,

562
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Speaker 7: and they're constantly evolving, and they know exactly how to

563
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 7: attack you and and.

564
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Speaker 8: And they do it.

565
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Speaker 7: And so you know the officsive performance that Kyle put on,

566
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Speaker 7: you know, with Christian McCaffrey.

567
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Speaker 8: Uh, it's plug and play with the other guys.

568
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Speaker 7: And as long as Pertty's off in there, uh and

569
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Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey, I just feel like Kyle still has this

570
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 7: confidence that I can call whatever I want to call,

571
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 7: and I can hit you from wherever I want to

572
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 7: hit you, and don't be surprised if I run a

573
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Speaker 7: reverse past every now and then just to put some

574
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 7: points on the board. But I do what I gotta do,

575
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 7: and that's what a coach does. And I got the

576
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Speaker 7: utmost respectful caution in.

577
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Speaker 1: So I want to go back to Pittsburgh. You know,

578
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's a different environ It's a city, but it feels

579
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Speaker 1: like a small town. And I asked, I asked Jerome

580
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: bettis this earlier? I said, you know, they're very proud

581
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: that they never have losing seasons. And I'm like, yeah,

582
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 1: but you know how the Patriots got Drake May. They stunk.

583
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: To get a great quarterback, you gotta stink, and Pittsburgh,

584
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh never stinks. Do you think of a new if

585
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Speaker 1: a new coach came into Pittsburgh and just said, guys,

586
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Speaker 1: let's let's stink for a year, and then the following

587
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: year there's like seven good quarterbacks. I'm an offensive guy.

588
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Speaker 1: Don't worry about this year. I don't care if we

589
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: win three games. You know, Pittsburgh. You think Pittsburgh's ownership

590
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Speaker 1: would buy that.

591
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Speaker 8: No, they're not buying that.

592
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Speaker 7: And I don't think the players have buy that, man,

593
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Speaker 7: Like we trained all year and every year is our

594
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Speaker 7: year to win.

595
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Speaker 8: The Super Bowl.

596
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Speaker 7: So it's no way that you could just expect me

597
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 7: to train in an offseason, put my body through all

598
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 7: of this just to go and tank for a whole year.

599
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 7: Like as a player, like I got way too much

600
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 7: pride today, Like we're gonna give it all and if

601
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 7: we get beat, we're gonna get beat by giving him

602
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 7: giving it out all.

603
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Speaker 8: And you know, so for me, like, no way they

604
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 8: can do that.

605
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 7: Like as a player, I couldn't do that, you know,

606
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Speaker 7: Like I'm out here, you know, putting my life on

607
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 7: the line, you know, because one bad hit you.

608
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 8: Never know, it can go sideway. So why would I

609
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 8: ever go out there with that mindset? I just can't

610
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Speaker 8: do it.

611
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Speaker 1: Did you ever play one game in your career where

612
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: you wondered if the team was soft tanking? No?

613
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 8: Never?

614
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: Okay never?

615
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not built like I was never a player

616
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Speaker 8: built like that.

617
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Speaker 7: For me, I like every single play, even every single

618
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 7: repid practice, I was going hard and I always started

619
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Speaker 7: no matter the team.

620
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Speaker 8: We might have went four and twelve.

621
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Speaker 7: That year, but I still at the beginning of the season,

622
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Speaker 7: I said, this is our year. You know we're gonna

623
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Speaker 7: win the super Bowl. Like I always keep a positive.

624
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Speaker 1: Mindset, you know, Yeah, I get it. Emanuel say, great

625
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Speaker 1: to see you again. We get you a couple of

626
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: times a year. Good luck to you. Enjoy the game.

627
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Speaker 8: Hey, thank you calling. Good to see you, Man to

628
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 8: see you.

629
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Speaker 1: Two time Pro bowler, third round pick out of SMU,

630
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: had a really, really nice career. Think about that. He

631
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: had Shanahan McDermott, Tomlin, he got a he got a

632
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: a Sean Payton at one point, he had some good coaches,

633
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: and I you know, that's what he we were talking

634
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: during the break. He said, you know, Jackson Dart, get

635
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, and all of a sudden, Jackson Dart he

636
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: thinks would be in the playoffs two years. So yeah,

637
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's pro sports is sometimes a

638
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: little cruel. The harder you work as a college athlete,

639
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: the worst organization in business you go to. So that's why,

640
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: like Ty Simpson, if people say Ty Simpson is kind

641
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: of a late first round guy, well, the Rams have

642
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: two firsts. What if the Rams are like, listen, Stafford's

643
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: gonna play one more year. We got two first the

644
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: second third four. We know everything else, just we'll reach

645
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: on Ty Simpson. That is an unbelievable situation where a

646
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: good team says, we're going to shelf you for a year.

647
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna have Matt Stafford learn from a pro. That

648
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: is perfect. Doesn't happen a lot, but that is perfect.

649
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Good show today, Albert Breer got all of our taste

650
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: buds in in kind of order. J MC you freaked

651
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: out when he was mentioned all sorts of coaches. We

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Speaker 1: have nine openings. I think we have nine more than

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Speaker 1: competent candidates. But I do think a really important thing

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Speaker 1: to note is if the Giants are going to hire

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Speaker 1: a coach, the sooner you definitively make the higher the

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Speaker 1: better staff you get with the coach. So like if

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Speaker 1: the Giants, you know, if the Giants, Harbaugh says, give

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Speaker 1: me two weeks and the Giants are like, what, by

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Speaker 1: that time, you could be the fourth coach hired. So

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think the Giants is a

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Speaker 1: good job. But you don't want to sit around and

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Speaker 1: wait for Harbad to wait for you know, I think

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Speaker 1: you got to make I got you gotta make your

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Speaker 1: money now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I largely agree with that once Harbaugh decides where

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Speaker 6: he's going, I think the dominoes will fall in order.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're willing to wait for him.

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Speaker 6: If you're Atlanta, the Giants, the Titans, you're willing to

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Speaker 6: wait for Harball. But you got to have a backup

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Speaker 6: playing You know this. I mean, we're we've been business owners.

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Speaker 6: You can't just put all your eggs in one basket.

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Speaker 6: You got to have a Plan B, Plan C ready

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Speaker 6: ready to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin Stefanski and John Harbaugh have what they call leverage.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people interested. Ravens and Browns moved on

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Speaker 1: other teams, moving on up Hurt