1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one on 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: this Tuesday, Dan and the Dane's Dan Patrick Show a 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: lot to recap, got a busy guest list. Chris Simms 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: on loan from NBC Sports will dive into the Cowboys situation. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: They got a big game coming up in Seattle this weekend. 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: Tim Cavellshaw will join us. Urban Meyer, former Ohio state 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: head coach, will stop by and we'll check in with 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots as well. If you'd like to 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: stop by, you can dial us up each seven seven 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: three DP Show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Twitter handed a TP show. Say good morning to our 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: TV partner Peacock and also great radio affiliates around the country, 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: numbering three hundred and sixty two. Raiders in Las Vegas 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: seem to fit well together, even though they haven't been 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: good for a long time. The Raiders have a place 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: in football lore. And you know, you got that new 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: stadium last night, and you still go back to the 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: Raiders and there's still there's something about the Colors, something 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: about that the history go back to the seventies. I 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: mean this isn't the bad boy Raiders that we had 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: back then. Derek Carr isn't exactly Kenny the Snake Stabler. 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: But here they are. Could you imagine the Raiders of 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: the seventies in Las Vegas? Oh boy. The Raiders opened 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: their new stadium with an impressive win over the Saints 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: last night, and they got some young stars there. Josh 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Jacobs the tight end, Darren Waller's a great story and 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: the defense responded because I looked at what the numbers were. 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: Seventeen seven second quarter, the Saints were leading, and then 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: the Raiders dominated. At that point they outscored New Orleans 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: twenty seven to seven. They had the ball twice as 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: long as the Saints did, and they had eight more 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: first downs and the Saints. Usually it's the Raiders who 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: were known historically as the team with penalty issues. The 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Saints had ten penalties last night and eighty nine penalty 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: yards against their defense. But give credit to the Raiders. 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: They won a game on the road against Carolina, came 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: back home beating a good Saints team. But the question 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: is not about or the discussion is not about the 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Raiders today. It somehow was about Drew Brees that apparently 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: Drew Brees got old last night, got older last night. 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: If they had won that game, would anybody be talking 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: about Drew Brees and his arm strength or lack thereof. 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Now you know where I stand on it. Love Breeze, 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: but I saw maybe not as sharp a quarterback as 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: we've seen in previous years. Now, he got injured last year, 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: did come back and had a respectable second half of 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: the season. But as they go, I think the Saints 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: are going to go. And last night they were up 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy, threw a bad interception at the end of 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: the first half and Drew Brees and the Saints that 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: was a game. I thought the way they started out 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: that they were going to roll over the Raiders. Here's 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: Drew Brees on the team just not being in sync. 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Are we totally in sync right now? No, we're not. 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: We're not even close to what we are capable of, 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: not even close. We did some good things tonight early on, 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: but it just wasn't enough for the few opportunities we had. 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: We need to take better advantage of that. Now. I 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: don't know if he gets younger next week, because if 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: Breeze throws for three touchdowns, no interceptions, then apparently he'll 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: get younger, right because right now it feels like, oh, 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: you get to a certain age and then you're too old. 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: But if you play well, then it's like, oh, fountain 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: of youth. Oh don't count him out. Drew Brees is 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: still a very good quarterback. Do I think he's a 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: top five quarterback? No? But who cares about you know, rankings. 68 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: You know he's going to have to be a game 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: manager here because you didn't have Michael Thomas last night. 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: Let's not forget about that best receiver in the game. 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: You still had Alvin Kamara. I mean, if you look 72 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: at Breeze's numbers, they're not pedestrian. He did okay last night. 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: It was just he had a bad interception. Alvin Camara 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: is still dangerous player. But that Saints defense, you know, 75 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: they got manhandled. That was the big surprise. John Gruden 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: loves Derek Carr, and he wants to let you know 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: that he loves Derek Carr. And he keeps reminding us 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: that he loves Derek Carr. So here's John Gruden telling 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: you how much he loves Derek Carr. He had nine 80 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: different flankers last year nine. You know when I was here, 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: I was here for four years, and we had Tim 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Brown every week for four years. Once you know, we've 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: had I don't know how many different combinations on the 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: offensive line. Yet you know, he threw for over four 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: thousand yards of seventy percent, put us in a position 86 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: and make the playoffs in Week fifteen. This guy's a 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: great quarterback and we're surrounded him with better players. Okay, 88 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: I know that he keeps telling us about this guy. 89 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: But then this is also the same organization that went 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: out and signed Marcus Mariota. They flirted with Tom Brady 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: bringing him in, and they did host Kyler Murray prior 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: to the draft because from what I'm told, they were 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: going to go up and get him. In fact, I 94 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: was sworn to secrecy that I wouldn't say that John 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: Rudin was infatuated with Kyler Murray. This was at the time, 96 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, getting close to the draft, and I had 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: somebody with the Raiders who said, look, John loves Kyler, 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: but you can't You're not allowed to broadcast that. Because 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: I had hinted about it and I had heard from 100 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: somebody and they said, look, he really loves him. And 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: I said, are you going to go up and get him? 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: And he goes. I wouldn't rule it out. So I 103 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: know that John loves Kyler Murray. They talked about Tom Brady, 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: they brought in Marcus Murriota. Derek Carr has been a 105 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: very good quarterback and then he regretted a little bit. 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: I think there were whispers after he broke his leg that, 107 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, was he going to be the same kind 108 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: of quarterback? But he's there and he put up good 109 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: numbers last night. Here's Derek Carr after the win. This 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: organization means everything to me. They've stuck behind me through 111 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: some hard times, you know, through through some times our 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: team we struggled, There's no doubt about it. But when 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: you can get on the other side of things, be 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: two and oh as the Las Vegas right, that's a 115 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: pretty cool thing, you know it is. And he does 116 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: have the talent. But I don't know if that organization 117 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: was all in with Derek Carr, because I thought, you 118 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: go to a new stadium, and from what I was told, 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: they were all in on trying to get Kyler Murray 120 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: to have him as their quarterback. When they were going 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: into that new stadium that they wanted to create a buzz. Now, 122 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: how they were going to pull that off? I have 123 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: no idea, But that's no good for Derek Carr to 124 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of survive. Looking at Drew Brees then weeks eleven 125 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: through seventeen last year, twenty two touchdowns, one interception, He 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: completed seventy five percent of his passes, and he won 127 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: six of eight games. Now was he old? Because in 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: weeks one and two he threw two touchdowns in two interceptions. 129 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Then he got hurt, hurt his thumb, So I don't know. 130 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: Was he old last year? If he throws three touchdowns 131 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: next week because he's still old? Is there's still question 132 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: marks there? Is he going to be a deep ball thrower? No, 133 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: he's not, But that doesn't mean he still can't be 134 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: a great quarterback. What's wrong the Clevin? He's such a 135 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: checkdown Charlie. Now though, going and get the other checkdown Charlie. 136 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: Last night, it just feels like this short passing. I mean, 137 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: eventually our defense is going to jump, just jump those routes. Yeah, 138 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: That's what I've always thought. And that's when you go 139 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: back to their game against the Rams, and you know 140 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: breeze through that interception and the Rams ended up winning 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: that game. And uh, you know there, I've had questions 142 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: about his arm strength for quite some time, but I 143 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: don't I Philip Rivers has never had a strong arm. 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Had nothing to do with him getting older. It was 145 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: just he never had a really strong arm. I think 146 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: that that is going to come back to haunt the 147 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Saints at some point, their inability to throw deep. But 148 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: if you have Chimara and you have Michael Thomas and 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: that the defense plays well, you know, that's obviously that 150 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: team is on the short list of those who were gonna, 151 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe go to the Super Bowl this year. Yeah, mcleven. 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: The same question for Derek Carr. So they get Henry 153 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Rocks and they don't throw them. They actually got a 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: PI at the very end of the game on them, 155 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: but they don't throw deep at all. No, And I 156 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: was surprised because I thought that's why you go out 157 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: and get rugs, because you want to stretch the field 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: in raider fashion, you know, throwing the ball deep. But 159 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I think they got to get a little more comfortable. 160 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: You got a quality running back, you've got a quality 161 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: tight end. I gotta work Rugs in there and you're 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: just starting here, Like the overreaction is that maybe the 163 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Raiders are better than we thought and the Drew Brees 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: has suddenly got too old to be the quarterback for 165 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: the Saints. This program brought to you by legal Zoom. 166 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: Need to make it legal. Make it legal zoom dot com. 167 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: You can take care of things you need to get 168 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: done without having to leave your home. It's legal zoom 169 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: dot Com. All right, mcleven, What do you have for 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: him in your day so you can wear this? Couple 171 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of ways? Who would you buy stock in for the 172 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: season or who is most likely to reach the Super Bowl. 173 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you the four older quarterbacks, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, 174 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger. I would probably buy stock 175 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: in Drew Brees right now. I think they're a better 176 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: team than Tampa the Colts, and I'm not sold on 177 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: that marriage with Philip Rivers and the Cold I just 178 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: think it's tough to go from a team that you've 179 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: spent your entire career with and then you go in 180 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,479 Speaker 1: an offseason where you don't get to work out with them. 181 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: They've had injuries there on the defensive side, of the ball. 182 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Ben I'm fascinated with. I've said that I found that 183 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Steelers to be the most fascinating team for me going 184 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: into this season because if Ben is healthy, that Steeler 185 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: defense is good enough for them to at least make 186 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore and Kansas City nervous in a postseason game. So 187 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: I would say Drew Brees right now. But see, I 188 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: know when I'm getting with Drew Brees. I think people 189 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: looking at Drew Brees last night may look at him 190 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: and go, wow, they don't throw the ball down field 191 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: very often, or there's no more five thousand yard passing season. 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: It's for Drew Brees. Which they weren't a pass first team. 193 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean they became a running team with Ingram and 194 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: Kamara like this just didn't happen like this. And then 195 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: you got Drew Brees, who's got a TV job with NBC. 196 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, you wonder if they get close again, does 197 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: he want to play again? Would they want him to play? 198 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they're so anxious to get Taysom Hill in there. 199 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: And I had a conversation with an scout last night 200 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: and I said, are you infatuated with Taysom Hill? And 201 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: he goes let me put it to you this way. 202 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: I know he does a lot of different things, but 203 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: he has to do a lot of different things because 204 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't do one thing really well, and he goes 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if we said, hey, Cam Newton, Cam, 206 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: we want you to go out there and want you 207 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: to be a wide receiver. We want you to be 208 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: a kick returner, and we want you to be a 209 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: part time quarterback as well. Do you think Cam Newton 210 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: could do something like that? Chances are he probably could. 211 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: If you said to Kyler Murray, hey, we want to 212 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: use you, as you know in the backfield. We want 213 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: to line you up at wide receiver. We want you 214 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: to be a quarterback as well and be a kick returner. 215 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: But the Saints are paying Taysom Hill sixteen million dollars 216 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a year. Really, I think any how about good? Buy me? 217 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: I think it's six something crazy right, that was his bonus. 218 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: I think they have him for like two years, twenty 219 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: one or something, And yeah, people don't like that contract much. Well, 220 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I really don't. I 221 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: see Jameis Winston as their starting quarterback and you know, 222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: eventually after next season, after this season, I mean maybe 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna put in Taysom Hill and say go in 224 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: there and be Lamar Jackson. But he's not Lamar Jackson, Yampoling, 225 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: You're right. In the next two years, he's gonna get 226 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars. Geez. You know it's a weird dynamic though, 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: because I remember watching Taysom Hill playing college, and it's 228 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: been a long time since I watched him play. But um, 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: here's going computer. We're running commercials brought to you by 230 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: I heard something like I'm like what I started to 231 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: pop up at. But it's weird when you're watching the 232 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Saints because you don't want your brees to get hurt 233 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: and you don't want your brees to get benched. But 234 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: you sure would love to see Taysom Hill running offense 235 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Oh yeah, I'd be fascinated 236 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: to see this is gonna work. I don't root for 237 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: it to happen. And also, quarterbacks do get old quickly. 238 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in twenty fourteen through thirty nine touchdowns. The 239 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: next season he through nine. They did win the Super 240 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Bowl and he retired, but he had an injured shoulder there. 241 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: So you know is Drew Brees going to be Is 242 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: this the Drew Brees we're going to see? And is 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: it good enough for the Saints to go to a 244 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? And I still think it is. I'm just 245 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised when I see what I see with him, 246 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: and I think people were because we'll see highlights sometimes, 247 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: But if you watch an entire game with a quarterback, 248 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: then you get a truer since, like Carson Wentz, I 249 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: went back and I watched the first half of that game, 250 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: and I You're watching a guy who's in his fifth year, 251 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: and you go like, how did he regress like this? 252 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna talk to Chris Simms about this. I'm 253 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: breaking down tape with Merrill Hodge and Ron Jaworski there. Well, 254 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be at least fair to Carson Wentz 255 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: because you know this is going south quickly here. His 256 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: footwork is horrible, It's horrible, and you go, how did 257 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: this happen? Yes, I think he's afraid of that knee. Yes, 258 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: you you've had a nie. You could tell when a 259 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: guy is spooked anytime you have you've had surgery, and 260 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: if you have your plant knee and you're always thinking 261 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: about that you know, you'll tend to throw off your 262 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: back foot a little bit more. His footworks horrible, it 263 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: really is. And I don't know if it's I don't 264 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: know if the answer is Jalen Hurtz who was a 265 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: second round pick who didn't have an offseason workout program, 266 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: and you're going to put him in there. I don't 267 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: think that's the answer. I think you got to you 268 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: gotta ride this Carson Wentz storm and just see where 269 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: you are at the end of the year. You got 270 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money wrapped up in Carson Wentz, but 271 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: he is regressing. But your offensive line isn't very good. 272 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz hasn't done much there. But Carson Wentz, there's 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: some real issues there with just how he sets up 274 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: in the pocket. And he made some bad decisions too, 275 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: where you go there, that guy's open right there, just 276 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: throw it there, and he would throw it where there's 277 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: two guys and it just didn't make sense. So they 278 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: got they got to figure out something quickly though. In 279 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: that division. I mean, you're fortunate that it's not a 280 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: good division, and you know you can still win that division. 281 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: They won the division last year, and they weren't very good. 282 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: But if the Cowboys are going eight and eight, you 283 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: can still win that division going nine and seven. Mclubney 284 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: got a poll part another one. Okay, and my geography 285 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: is not perfect here, but which West Coast team is 286 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: most likely to jump into the playoffs after missing him 287 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: last year? The Rams, Chargers, Raiders or the Arizona Cardinals. 288 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Let's say Nevada, California, Arizona. Okay, all four our in 289 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: position now, so teams from the West. Yes, I believe 290 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: they're all too Oh yeah, they're all a little spicy. Yeah. 291 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more enthused about the Rams, let's 292 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: put it that way. And I wasn't because I thought 293 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: there were going to be an eight and eight team 294 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: this year. But that defense has been pretty good and 295 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: I just didn't know if they had I like Woods, 296 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: I think he's really underrated. Cooper Cup is in there 297 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: as well. You don't have you know, Todd Gurley, and 298 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: maybe that's a good thing, but you know, I think 299 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: as Carson or as Jared Goff goes, they go. I 300 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: don't know about the Raiders Chargers. Did you see Anthony 301 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: Lynne goes, hey we lost the game? Like, hey, are 302 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: you gonna have Justin Herbert is your quarterback. Next week 303 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: goes we lost the game, So if you won the game, 304 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: then Justin Herbert's your quarterback. I don't know if that 305 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: was the follow up question, but that would have been 306 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: my follow up question. Yes, mcglow. Twitter's head is exploding 307 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: over that decision to go back to all Right, Taylor. 308 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: By the way, the Chargers are one and one and 309 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: people go, oh, you know, you can't lose your job 310 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: to an injury. Tell that to Drew Bledsoe. There's quite 311 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: a few quarterbacks who have lost their jo Trent Greene 312 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: lost his job to Kurt Warner. You can go down 313 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: the list just about every team as this situation where 314 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback lost his job to somebody else. All Right, 315 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Chris Simms will join us. I'm 316 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna ask him a couple of things. Certainly about Carson 317 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Wentz with what we've seen the fact that members of 318 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: the those Cowboys didn't know the onside kick rule. So 319 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't think at Lanta did it turns out that 320 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: the person recovering the on side kick didn't know the 321 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: rule either. Yeah, Pull, Well, did you guys watch like 322 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: when games go to overtime. Now, the ref gives a 323 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: five minute diet tribe on what the overtime rules are. 324 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: He looks at both teams. He goes, just so you know, 325 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: we're playing ten minutes. At the end of those ten minutes, 326 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: if someone scores on the opening drive a touchdown, the 327 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: game is over. If they don't score the next week 328 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: gets he walks you through it so there's no confusion. 329 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: I think they do it for the people at home 330 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: as well. I think they do that for Donovan McNabb. 331 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Didn't McNabb not realize that you could end in a tie. 332 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: Like years ago when he was playing c J. Goodwin, 333 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: he recovered the ball for the Cowboys and he said, 334 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: with these new rules, they can't touch the ball either. 335 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: They have to wait the Falcons. Somebody had to tell CJ. No, No, 336 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: that's not the case. They can touch the ball if 337 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: they want to. All right, we'll take a break. We'll 338 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: also talk to Chris Simms about the Patriots with Cam Newton, 339 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: that decision to run at the end of the game. 340 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: We'll take a break. It's coming up on twenty after 341 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: the hour. Glad to have you on board here, Dan 342 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: and the Dan that Stan Patrick show sleep Number setting 343 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: one hundred. Yes it is. 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He thought the game would keep going until 376 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: somebody one and his comment after the game regarding ties was, 377 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: it'd be a shame if that happened in a playoff game. 378 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: This is your quarterback, and he didn't even know what 379 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: overtime rules were. This guy does. He's Chris Sims, who 380 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: joins us on the program on loan from Pro Football 381 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: Talk Live. Where do you want to start today, Chris Well? 382 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they pay you the big bugs. 383 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, but I guess the big thing 384 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: to talk about would be last night's game, right, I mean, 385 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: what do you take away from that game? Do you 386 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: start to go, oh, are the Raiders a team to 387 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: watch out for here? Or are we still not sure 388 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: about the Saints through two weeks and things don't look 389 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: smooth and they're not playing their best football. I tend 390 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: to be on that a little bit more right now, 391 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: where I'm a little more concerned with the way the 392 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: Saints look to start. And it feels like the national 393 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: conversation has to do with Drew Brees. Like people were 394 00:20:54,600 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: alarmed that Drew Brees all of a sudden looks average yeah, 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: forty one, yeah, And I don't know if it's okay 396 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: you're that age like three years ago, was his arm 397 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: any stronger? Like, I don't know. It just feels like 398 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: everybody got a chance to see him. He might get 399 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: younger next week if he throws three touchdowns though, Chris, 400 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: so you know how this works. It's week to week here. 401 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: But is Drew Brees a concern for you? He definitely is. 402 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it that he is a concern 403 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: for me with the Saints. Well, I mean, first off, 404 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: you see the game last night. You know, the first 405 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: two series, it's great execution. Things are going good. Sean 406 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: Payton's got his early plays. He wants to go doing 407 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: the game plan. But then after that, Raiders make adjustments 408 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: whatever the game settles in, and you see the offense 409 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: is hard for the Saints. It's it's always got to 410 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: be a twelve play, eighty yard drive. There's never a 411 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: big play in the past game to take pressure off 412 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: the offense. And yeah, I think between the last two 413 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: weeks with everybody wanting to tune in to see Breeze 414 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: and Brady and now it's Monday Night football and the 415 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: new Las Vegas Raiders Stadium and everything like that, I 416 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: think people are, you know, seeing something that I know 417 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: you and I talked about a little last year where 418 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: it was concerning and here it is kind of rearing 419 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: its ugly head once again. And no, Michael Thomas, I 420 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: understand that he's a big part of the offense, and 421 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: he really is great for Drew Brees because he works 422 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: the middle of the field and all those shorter in 423 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: immediate routes, so not having them hurt their offense. But 424 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: nonetheless we're seeing too many Arrant throws balls that die 425 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: out and don't get to the target and things like that, 426 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: and I think are a little more concerning than in 427 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: the past. Are the Raiders only in on Derek Carr? 428 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: Because John Gruden keeps reminding us how much he loves 429 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, But boy, you love him so much. You 430 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: entertain Tom Brady, You thought about trading up to get 431 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, You brought in Mariota. I don't know if 432 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: that's how you show love to your quarterback. No, no, 433 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're all in on him yet either. 434 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they are. I think this 435 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: is a prove it year for Derek card where he's 436 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: gonna have to continue to play the way he's played 437 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: these two weeks and probably then some You know, even 438 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: then early on in the game, you saw Brian Greasi 439 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football kind of talking about, Oh, I 440 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: wish Derek Carr would have pushed the ball down the field. 441 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: There's still moments where he lacks aggressiveness. If he can 442 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: bring that to his game, you can see he's very smart. 443 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: He's unbelievably accurate. I mean, balls on the money all 444 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: night long, letting receivers run after the catch, But no, 445 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they're sold on it. You explained it. 446 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: They've been flirting with people and sending out mixed messages 447 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: for the last few years, and I think he's gonna 448 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: have to have a real good year to continue to 449 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: be that guy there in Las Vegas. What do you 450 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: do if you're the Chargers after that performance by Justin Herbert, 451 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: where your head coach says, hey, we lost the game. 452 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: You didn't lose it because of Justin Herbert. No, you 453 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: did not. And you know I am one that tends ago. 454 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: Let's go with Justin Herbert. I mean, you want to 455 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: play run the football, ball, control, play through your defense, 456 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: aisle of football. Well, he proved to us he can 457 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: do that now. I know he threw the interception, you know, 458 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: seventeen to nine and made the rookie mistake. But the 459 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: other thing I would argue too, is he made plays 460 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: that Tyrod Taylor is just not gonna make. I'm sorry, 461 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: there's no other way to say that. I mean, Herbert 462 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: has I think, as you saw a little bit some 463 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: eye popping talent, some throws and runs where you go, WHOA, 464 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: that's a little different right there. And to me with 465 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: the way they want to play it. He seems like 466 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: a very smart kid. He certainly didn't blink in the 467 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: pressure of the big lights or anything like that. And 468 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: you got the Carolina Panthers this week. I think the 469 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: time would be right now to throw Herbert in there 470 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: and start the future. Do you think the Patriots style 471 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: with Cam Newton is sustainable? I do. I think that. 472 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, Cam is gonna have to continue to be careful, 473 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: and he is usually running the football, except when he 474 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: gets into those third and one, fourth and one type 475 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: runs where we saw, and those have really been the 476 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: only big collisions he's had the football to this point. 477 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: But I think two things. They're they're gonna take those 478 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: quarterback runs when the defensive schemes present itself like it 479 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: did in Miami and two weeks ago with Okay, it 480 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: was there to be had. Hey, Cam, you keep the ball. 481 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: But the big thing is, I think he's gonna give 482 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: them great confidence to continue to be able to go, Hey, 483 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: even if you can't run the ball. We saw man 484 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: his ability to stay in the pocket, make the right throw, 485 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: make some game changing type throws, it is very real. 486 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: And that'll give them some leeway too to maybe go 487 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: ooh when in doubt. All right, this guy knows our offense, 488 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: he knows where to go with the ball, and he 489 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: throws it you know, the correct ball too. I'm very 490 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: excited by what I've seen out of that offense and 491 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Cam Newton and New England to this point. I think 492 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: it's just at the beginning phases of where it can grow. 493 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: But would you sign him up? I know the gun 494 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: him for a bargain, but is there a point where 495 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots go, maybe we've seen enough that we need 496 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: and what's Cam gonna cost you? That's gonna be the 497 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: big question. And I think this is both of them 498 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: kind of evaluating each other as we go along. But 499 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, hey, if Cam continues to play 500 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: the way he's playing right now, he's gonna go I 501 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: want thirty plus million dollars next year to play quarterback. 502 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: And I don't know where the New England Patriots go 503 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: if he continues to play the way he's playing right now, 504 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna go, Okay, well you deserve it because you 505 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: were the man this year. You know again, we talked 506 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: about no weapons on the Patriots offense all last year, 507 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we have weapons all of 508 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, nothing's really changed except the guy at quarterback. 509 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to take a knock at Barady 510 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: or anything like that. I'm just saying this guy still 511 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: has special illness to his game and his leadership and 512 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: how the pressure he puts on a defense because of 513 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: his vast skill set. And I expected to be a 514 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: good year for him from what I've seen here, and 515 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: I think he will be the quarterback here for the 516 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: next few years. In New England. Yeah, because he's gonna 517 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: be a big chick at item if he's playing right well, 518 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: and he's only what's thirty one, so he still could 519 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: get maybe that three or four year deal. We're talking 520 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: to Chris Sims, pro football Talk co host NBC Football 521 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: Night in America analysts as well. I'm surprised that both 522 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: sides of the onside kick in Dallas didn't understand the 523 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: rule for the onside kick. Chris, I'm amazed. I mean, Atlanta, 524 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what they were doing. It's a shocking 525 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: that they sat there and once you saw the ball 526 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: get to the seven or eight yard mark, to just 527 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: continue to sit there and watch it and when you 528 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: see the balls rolling in that direction. Yeah, obviously details 529 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: were not talked about there and they need to be 530 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: more thorough. And to your point, what I heard you 531 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: open up the segment with, and this is what I 532 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: argue a lot with. Even like when you do the 533 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: NFL Top one hundred. You got guys in the NFL 534 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: who they just played football. And I'm not trying, but 535 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: they're not going home and watching Sunday Night Football or 536 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football or keeping up what's going on in 537 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: the league. They go to practice, they do what the 538 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: coach says. They like playing the game, but they're not 539 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: all in. And as you can see, some guys don't 540 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: understand what the hell's going on out there at times. Yeah, 541 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: but you're on the kickoff team. It's amazing. I have 542 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: no answer for you. All I can say is that 543 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: that game was a debacle. Was some of the coaching decisions. 544 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, to go for two up twenty six to 545 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: seven in the second quarter. I didn't know coaches could 546 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: tell the future now and they know how it's gonna unfold. Oh, look, 547 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: that point kind of came in handy losing by one. 548 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: You know, the onside kick Mike McCarthy going for two 549 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: down nine. What I mean, I don't know it. That's 550 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: this analytics and stuff like this is driving me crazy 551 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: right now. You know, this kind of mask though, what 552 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: was going on in Dallas. I mean, they got to 553 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: win a miracle win here, and now you go to 554 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: Seattle this weekend and that Seattle team seems to know 555 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: what they're doing and now their feet and you know, 556 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: letting Russ cook a little bit here? Yea, what do 557 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: you expect to happen? Dallas Seattle? I think Dallas. I 558 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: think we could see a shootout in this game. Really 559 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: I do, because I'm a little like Dallas's defense has 560 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: not exactly you know, blown me away through the first 561 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: two weeks either. I mean we saw last week and 562 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: the Rams, they kind of moved the ball up and 563 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: down the field on them and Seattles. This is the 564 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: best Russ's look. It's the best weapons he's ever had 565 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: around him. And Brian Schottenheimer, the offensive coordinator, gotta give 566 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for changing his you know, 567 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: a persona run first to realize, wait, the strength of 568 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: our team is through the pass game. He's really grown 569 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: the offense. I questioned whether how much he can be 570 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: creative in the past game and things like that. Been 571 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: really impressed with what I saw through two weeks and 572 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: their defense. You know, it tells me and Seattle's gonna 573 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: play this way the whole year Dan, because the defense 574 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: is playing aggressive too. It's not Ben don't break. It's 575 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: a little bit like, hey, we're gonna blitz Jamal Adams 576 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: and we're gonna make a strip sack fumble or get 577 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: the ball back, or we might give a big play 578 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: up and you score. But oh well, Russe will be 579 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: back on the field and we're comfortable with getting in 580 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: a shootout. And I think they're gonna be very comfortable 581 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: with what we've seen in the first two weeks all 582 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: year long. I went back and watched Carson Wentz in 583 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: the first half and I never played the position, but 584 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: I know footwork, and his footwork looks terrible for a 585 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: guy who we thought was established and a franchise quarterback. 586 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: But like what happened to Carson Wentz here, and I 587 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: haven't watched the film in that game. It's something that's 588 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: on my docket here this morning that I'm going to 589 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: go back and watched. But it is concerning you know 590 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: he first off, needs a little bit of the governor 591 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: of like, man, that's too tight of a window, or 592 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: go down, there's nine guys on you just take the sack, 593 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: don't try to flip the ball to somebody and do 594 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: things like that. I do think he's a little aggressive, 595 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: tries to make too much happen at times. Offensively, they're 596 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: struggling to find their way. We know they got the 597 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: offensive line injuries, and yeah, at times he just doesn't 598 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: have the proper mechanics throw in the football or he'll 599 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: just lock his legs in the ground and try to 600 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball in an awkward position. But it's not 601 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: been good. He cost them the first game with someone 602 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: the play calling and last week was not a good 603 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: look either, and Sean McVay had a lot to do 604 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: with that too, and what he's doing on the offensive 605 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: side too. I don't know what your reaction was to 606 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Trent Dilfor. Trent Dilfor said that the Packers drafted Jordan 607 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: Love to basically, you know, get Aaron Rodgers upset, Like, 608 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: do you think that they would actually like are they 609 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: reverting to something that sounds as desperate as that to 610 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers? Motivated. Damn. I mean that that would 611 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: be some zen Master stuff right there, to trade up 612 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: in the first round just to do that. I mean, 613 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: they could have just called me the Packers and I 614 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: would have trashed Aaron Rodgers and maybe we all that 615 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: has joined him. He could have pissed them off and 616 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: got him to go again, you know what I mean. 617 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: So it certainly is ignited him. And you know, there's 618 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: two things that jumped out to me about their offense 619 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: in the first two weeks. They're much more aggressive with 620 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: downfield pass plays and calling those plays. And Rogers, who 621 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: I think was scarred from years of a very average 622 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: offense around him schematically to where he didn't want to 623 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: force the ball into a tight window with the first read. 624 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: He might hold it and dance around and they make 625 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: Rogers magic happen. Last year I saw a few of 626 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: those times where he did that and I went, oh, no, 627 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: the first guy's open, you got to throw it to him. 628 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: I remember he got that little spat with Matt Lafleur 629 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: like in week two or week three, and that's what 630 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: it was about this year. Man, Dan, he's playing the 631 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: position true to for him, the first guy, and he's 632 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: opened by three inches. He throws that ball in there 633 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: and throws a strike, and I think it's helped their 634 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: offense in the rhythm of their offense a lot. Well. 635 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: They also have a great running back too, so that yes, 636 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: they doubt we brought this question up yesterday. We do 637 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: this all the time. Paulie somehow loves to shoehorn Julian 638 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: Edelman in a conversation has to do with the Hall 639 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: of Fame. Who's career I can I can give you 640 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Julio Jones's career or Julian Edelman. Oh yeah, I'm still 641 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: gonna take Julio Jones. I'm gonna take Julio Jones, even 642 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: though you don't have the ring, and that does stink 643 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: in those playoff moments, but Julio Jones will go down 644 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: as one of the greatest receivers ever. Julian Edelman, to me, 645 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: is just a really good receiver that was a big 646 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: piece for a great football Chris, I can't believe this. 647 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: Your your dad is a perfect example. Phil Simms has 648 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: a career. He might not be first ballot Hall of Fame, 649 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: but Phil Simms has a ring as part of two rings, 650 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: and I would want that as much as maybe even 651 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: a Dan Marino career rings, And well, I get it. 652 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: Would you rather have your dad's career dan Marino's career? 653 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Oh man, I'd probably still go with Dan Marino's career. 654 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: I think I would. Those rings are cool, but damn 655 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: all the money Dan made in the Hall of Fame, 656 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: and I think my dad would trade one of those 657 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: races of Dan Marino for some of his money. Would 658 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: your dad take Dan Marino's career over him? He might might. 659 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: I know. He made this comment one time where he 660 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: went we were talking about this and people were He's like, oh, 661 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that's all a little overrated. Dan Marino's one 662 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks all the time. And he sat 663 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: back for a second and we all sat there and 664 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: locked him, and he went and then and damn, I 665 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: don't know crap he can have by races. Maybe I'll 666 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: take his money. So it's not that crazy. Good to 667 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: talk to you, Chris, Hope you're well. Thanks for us 668 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: as always, all right, be good, buddy, I'll talk to 669 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: you guys. See it. That's Chris Sims, pro football talk 670 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: co host an NBC Football Night in America analysts. We'll 671 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: take a break We got our play of the day 672 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: coming up. Next, we'll settle on our poll question as well. 673 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: We check in on the Cowboys a little bit later 674 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: on Urban Meyer will stop by in the final hour 675 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: of the program. Lakers Nuggets Game three tonight, and the 676 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: NFL is ning coaches. If you're not wearing your mask correctly, 677 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: We'll have a conversation about that coming up as well. 678 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 679 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 680 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 681 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 682 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Oh 683 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: My God, the place of the Day, God play. This 684 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: is the play on the day. Check this out. Carlson 685 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: will kick it this to put it away. Chrit snaps 686 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: good hold, kick on its way. Yeah, Vegas is gonna win. 687 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: It's the first game at Alleged Stadium. Vegas always wins. 688 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Brent Grent Musburger with a call Raider Nation. That's on 689 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: Radio nine twenty am. John Gruden opted to kick the 690 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: fifty four yard field goal instead of giving Drew Brees 691 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: the ball back, and they pick up the victory play 692 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: the day brought to you by Home Depot. Home Depo 693 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: is giving a call out to all you pros that 694 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: are working hard every day. We've got delivery options to 695 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: get what you need exactly where you need it, so 696 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: you can keep doing what you need to do to 697 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: get the job done. The Home Depot, how doers get 698 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: more done? Former Jags Rams quarterback Blake Bortles scheduled to 699 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: visit today with the Denver Broncos. Bronchos nearly signed him 700 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: last year. With Drew lock out for a little while, 701 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles come on down for Todd Fritz's Denver Broncos 702 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: dresscoll did have his moments. They didn't come back to win, 703 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: but desperate times. Yeah he was. Okay, he did, he did, 704 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: all right, I had no problem with that. Carson Wentzays 705 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: five giveaways most of the NFL FOREI interceptions in one 706 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: lost fumble. All right, McLevin, let's settle on the poll question. Okay, 707 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: do we want to go? There? Are we? I'm just 708 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: so I'm so mad at you guys. Championship take that. 709 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: You guys want the backup guard on a Super Bowl 710 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 1: team other than Oh okay, so during the commercial break, 711 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: we got into this conversation. Would you rather have Bernie 712 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: williams career he won four World Series titles with the Yankees, 713 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: or Mike Trout's career He's won nothing except for a 714 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: bunch of individual awards. Let's say Mike trouton does not 715 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: win a World Series in his career. That's a pretty 716 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: safe bet. Wow. Wow. Would you rather have Bernie Williams's career, 717 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: great postseason performer, four World Series rings or made one 718 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars Bernie White? Okay, Mike Trout's gonna make 719 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: a billion dollars but no rings, but he'll be one 720 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: of the great players of all time. Yes, time, I'm 721 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: going Bernie because you could say he's one of the 722 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: greatest plays of all time. But there's always going to 723 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: be people saying you were so great. Even though baseball 724 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: different than basketball, you couldn't get your team anywhere near 725 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: or World Series. And that's how wonderful you are that 726 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: your team was still stuck in the bottom. But New 727 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: York City. Yeah, but Bernie Williams couldn't have done single 728 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: handedly anything but the four rings and Yankees and pin 729 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: stripes and New York and all that and plenty of 730 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: money and a musician on the side. I know we're 731 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: just talking about his you know, the athletic part of things. 732 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: But rings in New York over being considered one of 733 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: the greats of all time? How do you know Mike 734 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Trounce not a musician. He made just a little kazoo 735 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: and he may he may not publicize it. He may 736 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: play a saxophone fallinger. Yes mcvitt, Yeah, I agree with Todd. 737 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: Bernie's acoustic guitar has overtaken his playing career. Member That 738 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: dude don't play anywhere. But all right, what about Charles 739 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: Haley five rings, second most of all time behind Tom 740 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: Brady or Reggie White be the best pass rusher the 741 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: NFL has ever seen, or a really good one who 742 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: just won a lot of championships. Reggie didn't get a 743 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: ring with the Packers. Oh darn it, all right, let 744 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: me go with he didn't he beat the Patriots. Yes, 745 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: I blew that. How about Bruce Smith? How about Bruce Smith? Good? Well, 746 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: he made four Super Bowls. That gives you a lot 747 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: of crap. Well he didn't win one. Yeah, but all 748 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: those Bills and Vikings teams that made the Super Bowls 749 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: all made the half. Would you rather be Bruce of course, 750 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith or Charles Haley. Bruce Smith with five rings, 751 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: no question. Bruce Smith in the Conversation's Top five defensive 752 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: players of all time. Okay, just like Mike Trouts and 753 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: the combos top five players of all time. Probably he 754 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: will be will be I mean in that realm, and 755 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: then we always go back to Robert Ory with seven 756 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: rings or Charles Barkley's career with zero Whose career do 757 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: you want? I'm going with all the Hall of Fame? 758 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: I forgot Reggie won that Ray. Yeah, but this goes 759 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: back to Edelman is not going to the Hall of Fame, 760 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: but he's got Super Bowl rings. Where's Julio Jones is 761 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame and he has no 762 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings? Calvin Johnson no Super Bowl rings? Yeah, 763 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: Polly going back to Mike Trout. Mike Trout, in his 764 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: career as great as his has played in three postseason games. 765 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: Bernie Williams participated in one hundred and twenty one postseason games. 766 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 1: He had five hundred and forty five postseason at bats. 767 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: Mike Trot's had fifteen. Yeah, that's a three game suite. Yeah. See. 768 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: And Bernie Williams he batted just under three hundred for 769 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: his career, which is good. Hit almost three hundred home runs. 770 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: That's yeah, he was a good he was a good player. Yeah, 771 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: Like he benefited from being in a great lineup, and 772 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: he was a very good, complimentary player. Absolutely, And he 773 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: was clutching the postseason. I got no arguments with what 774 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: he did in the postseason. You know, he's a three 775 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: thirty hitter in the postseason. I mean, if you're gonna 776 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: say Scott Brocius said, well, I'd have to think Bernie 777 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: Williams is great. Yeah, yeah, love. Remember Brocius is a fielder. 778 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: That one year he pulled up Brooks Robinson. But Bernie 779 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: can shreds. Let's get back. Don't forget that. Put that 780 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: in the poll. No, no, no, he no, he doesn't 781 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: shred when he plays guitar. Oh, he's so good. Easy, 782 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: he's just yeah, easy listening. That's what it is. It's easy. 783 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: There's nobody in a America having this conversation today, even 784 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: in Bernie Williams household. Right now, he's about about time 785 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: got some record. Jeter takes all the crowd. Oh, Mariano, 786 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: what about Bernie bout time I get a little records 787 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: make loves. Simms does have that one ring, But to 788 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: lose out that second ring to high I mean, he 789 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: got the ring, but to watch your backup win the 790 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: super Bowl, that hurts too. Though. If he won that 791 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, phil Simms is a Hall of Famer. Jeff 792 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: has Stetler did a very good job against Buffalo winning 793 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl. But if Phil Simms has two super Bowls, 794 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: He's going into the Hall of Fame. I mean, that's 795 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: how close it is. Crazy, yeah, boy, Phil Simms in 796 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: nineteen to eight and three postseason games. He beat Joe 797 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: Montana and John Elway in two of the three games, 798 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: and he was at eight touchdowns no picks in the 799 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowls for Phil Simms twenty two of twenty five, 800 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: out dueling John Elway. Bernie Williams has twenty two career 801 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: postseason home runs, second only to Manny Ramirez is twenty 802 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: nine stead the day of the day, day, Yes, mcloban one, 803 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: would you say nineteen eighties giants? Does anybody think of 804 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 1: Phil Simms? There's only one player you think of legacy wise, 805 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: he had one of the top five Super Bowl performances 806 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: in history for a quarterback. Other four quarterbacks who beat 807 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: up that Broncos team, it means it's LTS team. That 808 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: was a one man gang of a football team in 809 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: history of legacy wise that nobody think that win against 810 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: Buffalo was not Lawrence Taylor. Anybody got beat in that 811 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo team win, but nobody remembers they they controlled the clock. 812 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: They controlled the clock and they kept Buffalo off the field. Yeah. 813 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: Point in that Super Bowl or Phil Simms won MVP, 814 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor had four tackles and no sex. Take that 815 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,959 Speaker 1: in MC club and ah he's Joe Flacco. Well, check 816 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: in with the Cowboys. Jim Calowshaw will join us Urban 817 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: Meyer in an hour now and we'll check in with 818 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots as well. One hour of the Books, two 819 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: More and a Goo on this Tuesday, Dan Patrick's Show