1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Let's do some debate preview. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: We have so many people here at Curtis how Tutor Dixon. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 2: We're going to make fun of Jamal Bowman losing. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: We have a. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision. Bill Jacobson is here to analyze that. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: All that and more coming up. I'm writing, all right, 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: let's talk about some debate preview. The debate is upon us, 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: so let's do a little debate preview. 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: First, let me. 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: Explain something to those who may be new viewing the show. Listen, 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: there's a million different ways you can consume conservative, right 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: wing anti communist media, radio, podcast, TV. However you do it, 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: and there are a million different people who do it 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: a million different ways. But I need to explain something 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: about me first. That's never ever, ever going to change. 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: I don't worship politicians. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: I do not. 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: In fact, I distrust all of them. Politicians are just 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: to be used like rental cars. Now, most of the 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: time you enjoy that, but sometimes I will end up 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: saying something mean or not as loving about your favorite politician, 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: and people. 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Get offended by that. 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: And this is an election year, and so tensions are 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: already up because the stakes are so high, and so people. 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Get really offended. 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: So I just need to clarify if you're the type 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: who gets offended because I don't love whatever politician you 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: happen to love, tough, because that's never going to change, 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: all right. So when I do a little debate preview here, 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: I may say things you love. 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: I probably will. I may say some things you hate. 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: That's the way it goes. The debate is upon us. 34 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is debating Donald Trump. Now, first let's go 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: over a couple things. The rules of the debate are 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: all stacked against Trump in the worst possible ways, and 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: we'll go into it a little more detail about that. 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: But that's kind of the bad news on the overview front. 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: The good news on the overview front is this Trump 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: is so much more physically and mentally capable than Joe Biden. 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: He just is. 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's no longer a functional adult. We have report 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: after a report after report from things like the G 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: seven where they just met at where people were leaking 45 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: things saying the guy can't even function, can hold a 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: thought in his head, you can't keep him in the room. 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: So look, let's pretend like we've got a big fight coming, 48 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: which essentially that's what this is the political. 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Version of a big fight. 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: The most important thing, the most important thing, let's agree 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: on this. In a fight, if there's gonna be a 52 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: boxing match, it's a boxing match. 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: Is having the better boxer. 54 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: If you had to pick one thing you were better 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: at than the other guys were, it would be having 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: the better boxer. And there's no question that we have 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: the better boxer. Trump is simply more physically and mentally 58 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: capable at this point, then Joe Biden is that's the 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: good news. So the bad news is, well, it's all 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: set up against him. The good news is he's the 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: better fighter. Now how do these things work? Because look, 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: I've said it a lot, I've said it many many times, 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: and I'll say it again after the debate is over. 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: I'm really not interested in a bunch of preemptive whining 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: or post debate whining about it being unfair and biased 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: because it's CNM. It's a communist news network. They've always 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: been unfair and biased. They always will be. If you 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: were worried about it being unfair, why did you accept it? 69 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: So let's ask why did it get accepted? Because Trump 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: came out yesterday and made a statement about it. He 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: has obviously heard many of the concerns with accepting a 72 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: debate like this. Two moderators who hate his guts, they 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: cut off his microphone. It's on a TV network that 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: called him the second coming of Adolf Hitler for about 75 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: eight years. Now, Hey, Trump, why would you accept it? 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: And this is what he said. This is Trump's quote quote. 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: They approached me with a debate that I couldn't take. 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: They thought they would present it. I would say no, 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: and they would say we can't debate. 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Because Trump said no. 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: So I said yes before they even gave me the terms. 82 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: So he got roped into it. 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: All right. Now, you may disagree or agree with what 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: Trump just said. You may love it, you may hate it. 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: You may love it, but kind of think it's naive 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: and insane. Understand that this is what we know about Trump. 87 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: We've know this. 88 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: We've had Sean Spicer on the show. He's very close 89 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: with Trump. We've known this for the longest time. Trump 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: has a a'll take anybody anytime mentality. Shawn Spicer told 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: us that when he was trying to get Trump to 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: negotiate better terms, Trump. 93 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: Said, nah, Now, I'll take him anytime. 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: Any place. That kind of brava mentality. And I'll be 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: honest with you, I like that the Jesse and Me. 96 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: I like that a lot. 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Now, strategically, that's not smart, it's not it's not smart 98 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: to have taken this debate. It is not a smart 99 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: political move because Trump is ahead. 100 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: You see, we're in a game here. 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: It's a very important game, whether stakes are high, but 102 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: this is a game, and Donald Trump is up by 103 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: a touchdown, two touchdowns. Pick your sports reference and pick 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: how much he's ahead. Every single pool shows Donald Trump ahead. 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: He's ahead in the Swing States, He's ahead on the 106 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: particular issues, every single issue. 107 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: They're mad at Joe Biden. They like Trump better. They're 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: mad at Joe Biden. They like Trump better. They're mad 109 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: about the border, they blame Biden. They like Trump better. 110 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: They're mad about inflation, they blame Joe Biden. They like 111 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Trump better. Donald Trump is ahead by any way you 112 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: want to measure it. He's ahead. But here we have 113 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: the debate thing. This debate is going to be enormous. 114 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: The ratings for this debate are going to be super 115 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: Bowl type ratings. It will be the most watched thing. 116 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: I would guess this is a guess, but I bet 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm not far off that this will be the most 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: watched thing on the planet in the year twenty twenty four. 119 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 2: That's how big this will be. It's the first one 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: Trump versus Biden. Is Biden gonna poop himself? Is Trump 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: gonna go crazy? What everyone's going to watch? And Trump 122 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: is ahead? So if you're ahead, really the main risk 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: you have, and this is Trump, he's ahead, the main 124 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: risk you have is the massive blunder, the horrible thing 125 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: that goes wrong. And this is what he set himself 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: up for. Now. Maybe he does, maybe it goes wrong, 127 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: maybe it does not. But let's just put it this way. 128 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: The enemy, in order to overtake Trump and the pus 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: It's view and the polls and everything else, the enemy 130 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: needed a straight flush. He needed this to go right, 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: and this to go right, and this to go right, 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: and then at the end he had to land the 133 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: finishing blow. Well, by not even debating the terms, we 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: gave him almost all that immediately. Can Joe Biden pull 135 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: something off during the debate? 136 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: Trump is much better than him personally, I don't know. 138 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: Let's not do the thing either, where we get so 139 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: caught up in bravado. We discount the moderators. If you've 140 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: watched debates for any length of time, whether they be 141 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: primary debates general election debates, you already know moderators are 142 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: enormous During a debate, they are huge, They control so much. 143 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: And Jake Tapper is one of the moderators. 144 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: If you were to open up a copy of Hitler's 145 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: mind comp you would find the Nazi leader describing the 146 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: mixing of non Germans with Germans as poisoning. The Jew, 147 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: Hitler wrote, quote, poisons the blood of others. This, according 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: to Hitler, posed an existential threat to Germany because quote 149 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: all great cultures of the past perished only because the 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: originally creative race died out from blood poisoning. 151 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Unquote. 152 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: There's really no other way to say it. Donald Trump's 153 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: language mirrors this directly. But now the Trump presidency is 154 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: coming to an end, to an end with so many 155 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: squandered opportunities and ruined potential, but also an era of 156 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 3: just plain meanness. It must be said, to paraphrase President Ford, 157 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: for tens of millions of our fellow Americans, their long 158 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: national nightmare is over. 159 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: We didn't even check terms. We just accepted a debate 160 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: with that guy moderating. Oh but no, no, he's not alone. 161 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: You see, Jake Tapper will have have a coworker there. 162 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: Her name's Dana Bash, this data Bash. 163 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: Unfortunately for America, the court isn't necessarily wrong that this 164 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 4: is the way the framers wanted it to be. They 165 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: wanted Congress, the people who are closest to their constituents, 166 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: to be able to make the rules of the laws. 167 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: Unfortunately for America. What was she referencing there Trump not 168 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: being taken off the ballot, that Dana Bash is married? 169 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Did you know that? Do you remember? 170 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: Do you remember the Hunter Biden laptop and how there 171 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: was a letter from all these spies. Fifty one spies 172 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: signed a letter saying that's Russian disinformation, a blaytant lie. 173 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: We know now it's a lie. You know one of 174 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: those spies was Dana Bash's husband. These are the two 175 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: people who are going to be moderating the debate. What 176 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: you want me to say? Trump's own press secretary can't 177 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: finish a sentence before getting cut off and run off CNN. 178 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: It's so it takes someone five minutes to google Jake 179 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: Tapper Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper hasilter. 180 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: Ma'am, I'm going to stop if I'm stating to attack 181 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 5: my colleagues. I would like to talk about Biden and 182 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 5: Donald Trump, who you work for, if you are you 183 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: on his. 184 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: Behalf, and I will have this conversation. I am stating 185 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: facts that your colleagues have stated in the past. 186 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: Now I'm sorry. We're going to come back to Caroline. 187 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: Thank you very much for your time. You are welcome 188 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: to come back at any point. She is welcome to 189 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: come back and speak about Donald Trump. And Donald Trump 190 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 5: will have equal time to Joe Biden when they both 191 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 5: join us now at next early later this week in 192 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 5: Atlanta for this. 193 00:10:53,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Debate, and this is where the most watched tele television 194 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: event of the year, This is where it will be watched, 195 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: and moderators are enormous. Speaking of that Hunter Biden laptop 196 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: of disinformation. You've seen this clip a million times. We've 197 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: played it for you a million times on this show. 198 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: Joe Biden saying, ah, it's Russian disinformation. 199 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: Trump correctly jumping in and saying. 200 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: What that's crazy, And everyone focuses on what Biden says 201 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: because he's lying, or what Trump says, because he's right. 202 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: But what people miss is how. 203 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: Quickly the debate moderator jumps on the grenade, the live 204 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: grenade for Joe Biden. 205 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: Well, let's not talk about that. 206 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: Back to race, because look, Derek, there are fifty former 207 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 6: national intelligence folks who said that what this he's accusing 208 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 6: me of is a Russian plan. They have said that 209 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 6: this has all the care four five former heads of 210 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 6: the CIA, both parties say what he's saying is a 211 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 6: bunch of garbage. Nobody believes it is up to his 212 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 6: and his good friend Rudy Gilli. 213 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: You mean the laptop is now another Russia Russia Russia hoax, and. 214 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 6: You that's exactly what this where exactly what is this 215 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 6: where he's going? 216 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 2: I want to stay on the issue of rank you have. 217 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Here we go again with the Russia. 218 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Trump is more capable than Joe Biden in every possible way, 219 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: more energy, smarter, just physically mentally more capable. Donald Trump 220 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: is ahead. Things are looking good. Don't count your chickens. 221 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: Of course, it's a long way until November, but things 222 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: are looking good. 223 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Really, the only. 224 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: Way things could go bad for us right now is 225 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: if we walk into a nationally internationally televised debate disaster. 226 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm not anticipating that. I'm really not, but we have 227 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: set up for a debate disaster. 228 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: Will it happen? I pray to God not, But we. 229 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: Certainly have handed them all the ingredients for a bomb 230 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: to go off. Whether they put it together right or not, 231 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. Across your fingers and say a prayer. 232 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. 233 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Curtis Holk about that in just a moment. 234 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: Before we do, let's talk about dirty timeshare companies. You 235 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: see timeshare companies, they have this scam going and this 236 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: is this is the majority of them. So if this 237 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: happened to you, don't feel bad. This is the majority 238 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: of them. They sell you on the fancy brochure and 239 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: the timeshare and you can have a blast and a timeshare. 240 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: But what they never lead with, in fact, they never 241 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: mentioned it at all for the most part, is that 242 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: you're stuck in it for life. You're paying these annual fees, 243 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: special assessments, and you know, surely you can just give 244 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: it back when you're done right, But that's when they 245 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: drop the bomb on you. That know you in fact, 246 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: cannot give it back. You are stuck in this timeshare 247 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: for life. I call Loan Star Transfer, because you're not 248 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: stuck for life. If you call the time share company, 249 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,359 Speaker 2: that's what she'll tell you. If you call Loan Star Transfer, 250 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: you have a ninety nine percent chance of getting legally 251 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: and permanently. 252 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: Free of that timeshare burden. 253 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: That just weighs you down. Eight four four three one 254 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: zero two six four six. 255 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back. 256 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: I will talk about who won the debate, who lost 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: the debate, But I can tell you one thing for sure. 258 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: The American people lost tonight because that was horrific. 259 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: You just took the words out of my mouth. You 260 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: use some high minded language. I'm just gonna say it 261 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: like it is. That was a show. 262 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: That was a hot mess, inside a dumpster fire, inside 263 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: a train wreck. That was the worst debate I have 264 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: ever seen, and and't even a debate. It was a disgrace, 265 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: and it's primarily because of President Trump. 266 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, those two are going to be moderating the debate, 267 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: the one. 268 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna watch. This will go pretty well. 269 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: Joining me now, Curtis House, Managing editor of the Media 270 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: Research Center. 271 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Curtis So we. 272 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Just agreed to let's see NN and those two hosts 273 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: the most watched television program of twenty twenty four. 274 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: That what we did. 275 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, and we let Jake Tapper and Dana 276 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 7: Bash do that as well. And Donald Trump agreed to 277 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 7: all these rules about cutting off microphones and no audience 278 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 7: and all that other stuff. Yeah, we just kind of 279 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 7: gave away the game, guys, and we get and then 280 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 7: in a couple of months we get George Stephanopolos's network 281 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 7: to host the other debate. I mean, that's going to 282 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 7: be great in and of itself, but you know, we're 283 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 7: moving on to like, you know, what's done is done, 284 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 7: and I just think we're going to see a complete 285 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 7: hot mess because if Joe Biden comes out like bouncing 286 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 7: off the walls like he is hyped up on drugs 287 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 7: like he was for the State of the Union, or 288 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 7: if Donald Trump comes out a little miffed and annoyed, 289 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 7: this is going to be just a complete train wreck. 290 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 8: Dana Bash, Jake Tapper. 291 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 7: My colleague Nick Farinaccarr has been doing some reporting about 292 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 7: Jake Tapper and CNN facing a defamation suit or a 293 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: possibly defam or what they argue is a defamatory story 294 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 7: about a contractor military contractor who tried to get people 295 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 7: out of Afghanistan. CNN did a story alleging that he 296 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 7: was scamming folks, scamming poor Afghans. So if Donald Trump 297 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 7: brings that up, Jake Tapper is going to go through 298 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 7: the wall. But we just know we see the Casey 299 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 7: Hunt store of the segment with Caroline Levitt earlier in 300 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 7: the week that she really ended the interview prematurely because 301 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 7: she was upset that she could size Jake Tapper and 302 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 7: Dana Bash. Just goes to show the pressure that CN 303 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 7: is under and just the level of petulance and pompousness 304 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 7: that emanates from CNN, Because as we know Jake Tapper, 305 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 7: I mean, he's gonna have his fingers busy responding to 306 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 7: people crawling into their dms complaining about nasty things people 307 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 7: are gonna say about him on Thursday Night. But this 308 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 7: is the life he's chosen to live. 309 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: Curtis CNN, Dana Bash, Jake Tapper. Part of my concern is, 310 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: no matter what their ratings look like, they only seem 311 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: interested in appealing to the rapidly anti Trump viewers of theirs. 312 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: So why do they have any motivation to appear objective 313 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: or anything like that on a debate. They don't even 314 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: have to appear that way. That's not what pays their bills. 315 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: They're paid to be hacks, So why wouldn't they go 316 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: all hack? 317 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I mean, you saw, 318 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 7: you know this afternoon with the Supreme Court decision leaking 319 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 7: out about abortion. They've been really hyperventling about that. They're 320 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 7: very excited, and you just look on a daily basis 321 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 7: CNN's airwaves, especially since they jettison Chrislick, has really gone 322 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 7: back to the days of Jeff Zucker where it only 323 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 7: appeals to a small portion of the base, the people 324 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 7: who somehow misplaced their remote and ended up on CNN 325 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: instead of MSNBC. They're looking for Nicole Wallace and instead 326 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 7: they just have to give up and settle for Jake Tapper, 327 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 7: I guess, or Abby Phillip or former conservative reporter Caitlin Collins. 328 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 7: They're just stuck with these people. They're under no I 329 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 7: think qualms about like wanting to focus on issues the 330 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 7: American people care about. They're really going to lean into abortion. 331 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 7: I'm sure they're going to lean into democracy this is 332 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 7: the network that clutched its pearls if anyone else did 333 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 7: in the lead up to twenty twenty, and since twenty twenty, 334 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 7: there'll be plenty of questions about January sixth. I think 335 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 7: you can guarantee that you saw some debates on some 336 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 7: of the other networks during the primary, not really focused 337 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 7: on that. But that wasn't CNN. Was CBS or NBC 338 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 7: or Foxers or someone else. This wasn't CNN, like the 339 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 7: chief network that I guess is defined and dripping with smugness. 340 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 7: So I think they're under no pressure to really, I guess, 341 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 7: stick to issues Americans care about. And we found it 342 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 7: at the end of last year, by a nearly ten 343 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 7: to one ratio, the ABC, CBS, and NBC, they were 344 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 7: more focused on the Trump charges, the sham Trump indictments 345 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 7: versus actual issues that trumpet is Republican opponents believed. So 346 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 7: I think that's going to be the same thing that 347 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 7: we see at CNN. 348 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right, Curtis. Thank you, my friend. 349 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate you as always. 350 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Thanks Jessie. 351 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: I guess we'll see how she goes. Talk to Steve 352 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: Cortez about this in tutor edition. They're going to join 353 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: us next for a panel. What do the normies want 354 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: to see? What do they not want to see? Let's 355 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: talk about that. You know what I want to do. 356 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: I want to go to sleep. And it's not like 357 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: I want to go to sleep right now. I'm fine, 358 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: I want to keep doing the show. 359 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: But when I get. 360 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Home tonight, hang with the fan a little bit. I'm 361 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: gonna want to go to sleep. And I know that 362 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 2: no matter what, I'm going to sleep like a little baby. 363 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: Are you one going to sleep like a baby tonight? 364 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: I use dream powder from Being Whenever I feel like 365 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to sleep, I simply have a cup 366 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: of hot chocolate before bed. 367 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: That's what you pour dream powder. I pour it in 368 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: a little milk. 369 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: You can do water, and I just warm up a 370 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: little glass of milk, mix it in there and it's 371 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 2: just a wonderful little cup of cinnamon hot coco and 372 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: you drift off to sleep because it's all natural. You 373 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: wake up the next day, you feel great. You want 374 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: you want to try some dream powder forty percent off 375 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: Shopbeam dot com, slash Jesse Kelly, try a bag. 376 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: You'll never be without it. We'll be back. 377 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: Here's something we all have to keep in mind when 378 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: we're watching this debate. They're not talking to us, and frankly, 379 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: they shouldn't talk to us. They're not talking to you. 380 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: They're not talking to me. You're the hyper informed. You 381 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: consume this stuff. You know the news, you know the issues. 382 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: They're talking to the half brain dead people who've ruined America, 383 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: the people who don't pay attention to anything. They don't 384 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: know anything about basic civics. They know how they feel 385 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: about things, and that's who decides presidential elections. That's just 386 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: the reality of it. So what should they say to 387 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: those people? Not to you, not to me. Let's talk 388 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: to Tutor and Steve about this. Joining me now, Tutor Dixon, 389 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: host of the Tutor Dixon Podcast, and Steve Cortes, founder of. 390 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: The League of American Workers. 391 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Tutor, you are in the freaking critical swing state 392 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: of Michigan. This is the state Donald Trump really has 393 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: to win to be honest, to win the presidency. What 394 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: should he say and what shouldn't he say tomorrow? 395 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 9: Well, if it were only that easy, I mean, that 396 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 9: would be great if he's allowed to say certain things. 397 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 9: The concern is that they're only going to add ask 398 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 9: questions that are twisted in a way that he can 399 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 9: only answer a certain way. And so that's where the 400 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 9: masterful media genius that Trump is has to come into play, 401 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 9: because he has to be able to take their question, 402 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 9: flip it and put the answer that he wants out there. 403 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 9: And for people in Michigan, that's going to be the 404 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 9: cost of gas, that's going to be the cost of groceries, 405 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 9: and that's going to be safety. We were just listed 406 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 9: as the second most violent state in the country. People 407 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 9: are looking for common sense and security, personal safety to 408 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 9: come back into play. That's what they're going to want 409 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 9: to hear from Donald Trump. They're scared about what's happening 410 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 9: at the border, they're scared about what's happening overseas. They 411 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 9: want an adult back into office, and they want to 412 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 9: see him as an adult come out and say I 413 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 9: will take care of you. 414 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: Gosh, I can't believe we're at a place where Michigan 415 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: is the second most violent state in the country. Steve, 416 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: you've dug into this, as you always do so brilliantly, 417 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: and you say there are three issues that he should 418 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: just hammer Joe Biden with. 419 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: What are they yes, an. 420 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 10: Article about this a daily caller if ano the audience 421 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 10: wants to see more specifics, but cognitive ability, the cognitive 422 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 10: impairment of Joe Biden, but with a major caveat because 423 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 10: he cannot look like he is bullying him. I believe 424 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 10: that Donald Trump should say, listen, millions of Americans are 425 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 10: dealing with these same kinds of issues, or dealing with 426 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 10: them with their parents and grandparents. This is not your fault, 427 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 10: Joe Biden. The border and inflation are your fault. Your 428 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 10: cognitive impairment is not your fault. However, it is clear 429 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 10: that you cannot handle the most difficult job in the world. 430 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 8: And then the next two issues. 431 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 10: Are Jesse the two eyes, inflation and immigration, and poll 432 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 10: after poll, including polling the modernization is done in the 433 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 10: state of Michigan. These are far and away the top 434 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 10: two concerns on voters' minds. Hammer both of those points 435 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 10: homes and be tangible. When it comes to inflation, what 436 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 10: I recommend is use dollar figures rather than percentages. People 437 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 10: understand dollar figures. For example, Biden's own USDA Department of Agriculture, 438 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 10: so called Thrifty Plan of a frugal grocery plan for 439 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 10: a family of four. When he took obviously it was 440 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 10: six hundred and seventy five dollars a month. 441 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 8: It's now nine hundred and seventy five dollars a month. 442 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 8: So say the. 443 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 10: Dollar figures seventy five dollars extra per month for a 444 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 10: family of four trying. 445 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 8: To be frugal in Michigan. 446 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 10: And when it comes to immigration, I think they're also 447 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 10: again be tangible. 448 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 8: Don't you speak in theory, talk specifically about Lake and Riley. Well, 449 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 8: my polling has shown in all of these swing states 450 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 8: is that. 451 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 10: The more voters are aware of the absolute tragedy, the 452 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 10: preventable tragedy of Lake and Riley, the more likely they 453 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 10: are to say that they're voting for President Trump. 454 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well, just to follow up with that though, Steve, 455 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: you talked about Biden's cognitive function. I agree with you 456 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: about the other two things. But you say Trump should 457 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: address this, but do it carefully. Okay, come on, the 458 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: bull can't handle fine China. Let's be honest. Trump is 459 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: really good at some things and not so good at 460 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: other things. You're going to ask Donald Trump to kind 461 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: of delicately tap dance around an issue. 462 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Bye word, come on Man. You know we can't Jesse. 463 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 8: I did not say he's going to do that. I 464 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 8: said that is what. 465 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 10: He should do, based on both my own intuition and 466 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 10: read it the situation, plus what polling shows us. 467 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 8: Let me speaking of that though. 468 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 10: Let you know, as long as we're on this topic 469 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 10: of where Trump shouldn't go but he probably will, he 470 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 10: shouldn't talk about twenty twenty and. 471 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: Listen, I join him. 472 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 10: I have enormous problems with the way twenty twenty turned 473 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 10: out and was handled, and was abused. 474 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 8: Frankly, the voting procedures and rules of the states were abused. 475 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 10: However, right now, in summer of twenty twenty four, it 476 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 10: does not behoove him to talk about it. It does 477 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 10: not behoove him to bring it up, particularly in front 478 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 10: of millions of voters who are not aware of the 479 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 10: many problems, you know, the legal and constitutional problems with 480 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 10: the way the twenty twenty election was handled. 481 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 8: Instead, it looks like a sore loser. 482 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 10: So stick to the two eyes inflation and immigration, stay 483 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 10: away from things that look like bullying, and stay away 484 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 10: from talk of twenty twenty, even when it is warranted. 485 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: In my view, Let's talk tutor about something he's not 486 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: going to be allowed to stay away from. They are 487 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: most definitely going to come at him about abortion. 488 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: They're going to come at him about. 489 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: This because this is right now a winning issue for Democrats. 490 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: American women love abortion the way toddlers love a stuffed 491 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: animal that keeps them company at night. 492 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: You know this all too well. 493 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: So if you're Donald Trump, and you know the moderators 494 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: and Joe Biden, they're going to bring this up in 495 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: the worst possible ways. 496 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: How should he talk about it? 497 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 9: I think he should stick to what he said about it. 498 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 9: He said, you know what, I want it to be 499 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 9: a state's issue and I'm not going to get involved. 500 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 9: And in fact, over I think it was last weekend, 501 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 9: Gretchen Whitmer was on CNN, It's the station that is 502 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 9: airing this debate, and she was asked about abortion, and 503 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 9: she said, Donald Trump wants a national abortion ban. I 504 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 9: will give see an end credit. The anchor came back 505 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 9: and said, actually, that's not what Donald Trump is saying today. 506 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 9: And I think that's what he has to stick with 507 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 9: because it's gone well with the states who don't want it, 508 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 9: they don't have it the state to do they do 509 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 9: have it. It's being decided by the people, and that's 510 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 9: what Donald Trump should come out there and say, and 511 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 9: it's a non issue. They will try to catch him 512 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 9: if he says anything else. I'll go back to something 513 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 9: that Steve said about trying to show that Joe Biden 514 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 9: is struggling with memory. I think he can do it 515 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 9: in a way that people won't expect. He can say 516 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 9: to him after he answers the question, well, Joe was 517 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 9: struggling to get this out. We can see he's hard. 518 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 9: He's having a hard time remembering this. Joe, perhaps you 519 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 9: didn't understand what happened when your policy went into place, 520 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 9: But let me explain it to you. I mean, there's 521 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 9: just a fact that he can point out that Joe 522 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 9: isn't understanding exactly what his own administration is doing, and 523 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 9: yet he does. He understands what he did, and he 524 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 9: understands how to fix it. 525 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: Steve, explain this to me. 526 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: If Joe Biden completely falls on his face, which I 527 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: actually don't expect, we continue to think he's going to 528 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 2: do this, and then they juice him up with a 529 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: cocktail that would make Hunter S. 530 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: Thompson die and he goes out. 531 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: There and he's functional, right, but he's functional. But if 532 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: he just goes out there and just poops his pants, 533 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: are they gonna just cut bait and dump the guy 534 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: at the convention? 535 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 8: It would have to be terrible. 536 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: Listen. 537 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 8: I have said all along that. 538 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 10: I believe Joe Biden is the nominee and he is 539 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 10: going to be on the ballot on November fifth. And 540 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 10: the main reason, by the way, and there's something sort 541 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 10: of delicious about this, is that the left had they 542 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 10: have boxed themselves in by their own ridiculous rules. And 543 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 10: what I mean by that is that they cannot if 544 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 10: they were to punt him, if they were to pass 545 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 10: him over, they cannot then bypass Kamala Harris. 546 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 8: They cannot pass over. 547 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 10: At the black woman who is in the number two position, 548 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 10: based on the rules that they themselves have established, the 549 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 10: ludicrous identarian politics that the left lives by. And I 550 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 10: think that these smart folks on the left, and a 551 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 10: lot of them are sharp, Okay, Jesse, they're evil, but 552 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 10: they're sharp. I think they realize that Kamala Harris is 553 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 10: an even worse candidate than Joe Biden. So I think 554 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 10: it would take something truly remarkable and catastrophic from Joe Biden. 555 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 10: And to your point, I don't expect that, and I 556 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 10: think people know this who have people in their lives. 557 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 8: Who are having these cognitive issues, elderly. 558 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 10: People, they can get up for certain moments, and they 559 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 10: can get up for an hour and a half, which 560 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 10: is all we're asking for here. 561 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 8: He's been resting for an entire week at Camp David. 562 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 10: My expectation is on the cognitive side, he'll actually be fine, 563 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 10: which is why Donald Trump has to be prepared though 564 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 10: to bring that issue up again, I think present it 565 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 10: with empathy, not Trump's strong point, but try to do 566 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 10: that and then also of course hammer the macro issues 567 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 10: of inflation and immigration as much as possible. Also, you know, 568 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 10: to Tutor's point about CNN, listen, they actually showed some 569 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 10: fairness in some recent interviews. Not entirely, of course, but 570 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 10: I think that CNN, which has seen its ratings absolutely tank, 571 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 10: when it comes to the demo audience, they're back at 572 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 10: the levels of the early nineteen nineties. I think that 573 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 10: they're actually going to be surprisingly fair. I mean, maybe 574 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 10: I'm giving too much credence and too much credit to 575 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 10: those ar latians at CNN. But my guess is they're 576 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 10: going to be reasonable on Thursday night, and if that's 577 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 10: the case, Donald Trump's going to have ample opportunity to 578 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 10: really lay out for the American people these stark policy 579 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 10: differences between what life was like pre COVID under Donald 580 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 10: Trump and what life is like now in America under 581 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 10: Joe Biden. 582 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: Tutor Steve thinks CNN is going to be fair. Will 583 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: you yell at him please? 584 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 9: I mean, it's an interesting position for Dana Vash and 585 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 9: Jake Tapper because if they come out and they're total 586 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 9: fools and they don't let him speak, then he wins 587 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 9: the night. If they do that, I actually look forward 588 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 9: to them doing it, because he can just say, here 589 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 9: they are sensory me again. Here they are taking away 590 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 9: free speech. Again, they don't let the other side talk, 591 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 9: and that will destroy them. So I sort of hope 592 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 9: that they do do it, because I think it kind 593 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 9: of ends their career. 594 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 10: Jesse, here will be the tell in my view, and 595 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 10: I'd be curious of you and Tudor agree with me 596 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 10: on this. 597 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 8: Snope's over the weekend. 598 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 10: You're very unexpectedly the supposed fact checker authority site very 599 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 10: left Okay, that's why I say supposedly fact checker, but 600 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 10: the left regards it as the authoritative voice of fact 601 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 10: checking for some reason. 602 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 8: Over the weekend and no. 603 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 10: Inexplicable, they came out and finally admitted that the Charlottesville 604 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 10: hoax is a complete lie, that President Trump never praised 605 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 10: new a Nazis. Now no platform in the country has 606 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 10: spread that hoax more persuasively and more constantly lied about 607 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 10: it more than CNN. If Jake Tapper actually is willing 608 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 10: to confront Joe Biden about this, and it's very pertinent 609 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 10: to this debate and to Biden, because of course he 610 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 10: launched his presidency on the predicate that he was forced 611 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 10: to run because of the supposed Charlottesville bigotry from President Trump. 612 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 10: If he is willing to confront him by that, then 613 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 10: I will have been proven right that for one night 614 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 10: at least, CNN is willing to be fair. 615 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 8: We'll see, We'll see what happens in gosh, you know, 616 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 8: not long now. 617 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: We will see. Tutor, Steve, thank you both that appreciation. 618 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: All right, we did get a Supreme Court opinion. What's 619 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: it all about. I don't know. 620 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: Bill Jacobson does. Let's talk to him about that. Next. 621 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: Before we talk to Bill, let's talk about your phone. 622 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Very very difficult these days to find a corporation where 623 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: you should spend your money. It's not hard to find 624 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 2: ones where you shouldn't it to all of them, Rainbow 625 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: this and Black Lives Matter that. But where's that leave us? 626 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: Do we just have to exist on beepers like the 627 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: old days. 628 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: No, no, no no. 629 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: You keep your cell phone, keep your cell phone number, 630 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: keep that great five G network you're on, never dropping calls. 631 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: Just switch to pure Talk. You see pure Talk CEO 632 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: as a veteran. Pure Talk feels so strongly about America. 633 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: When you get a hold of someone there, you'll speak 634 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: to an American who speaks English. 635 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: It's so profreshing to be able to just talk to 636 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: someone on the phone and. 637 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: They can understand you and repeat back. 638 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 639 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: Switch your phone to pure Talk, pure Talk, dot com, 640 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: slash Jesse TV. You'll say fortune and you won't spend 641 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: money with a garbage company. 642 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: We'll be back. 643 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: We're finally getting some of these Supreme Court opinions we 644 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: were told we were going to get. There's something called 645 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: Mirthy versus Missouri. It sounds extremely important. It has to 646 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: do with Joe Biden censoring his political opponents, really all 647 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: dissenting views. 648 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what all this stuff's. 649 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: About, and I don't know what the opinions about, but 650 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: I guarantee you one William Jacobson knows. 651 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: Of course. 652 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: Bill Jacobson joins this founder of legal insurrection. He's also 653 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: a professor at a little place called Cornell. 654 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: Bill, Okay, what happened with this? 655 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: Mirthy? Who's murthy? What's going on in Missouri? Did we 656 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: win or lose today? 657 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 8: We lost today? We lost in the worst possible way. 658 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 11: So this is a case about the government putting pressure 659 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 11: on social media platforms to suppress dissident views, mostly with 660 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 11: her guard to COVID, but not exclusively. And whether that 661 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 11: constituted government actions such that people could sue for violation 662 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 11: of their First Amendment rights because you have to have 663 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 11: a government connection to have a First Amendment claim, And 664 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 11: what the majority Amy Cony, Barrett and Cavanaugh and Roberts 665 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 11: joined together with the three liberals and six to three 666 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 11: ruled that the states of Missouri and I think it 667 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 11: was Louisiana, maybe a couple of others, and the plangiffs. 668 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 11: So the doctors who say they were suppressed, and I 669 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 11: think there were some bloggers too, could not sue, had 670 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 11: no legal standing to sue. So they don't even get 671 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 11: to decide whether their claims were legitimate or not. So 672 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 11: it's the worst possible way because it slams the courthouse 673 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 11: door shut on people who want to seek an injunction, 674 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 11: and this ruling is limited to the injunctive relief getting 675 00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 11: the government to stop. 676 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 2: Okay, well, Bill, explain this to me. That's no surprise 677 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: to anybody that Roberts is a backbite and snake who 678 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: sided with the other side. 679 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: He's done that a million times. But people see. 680 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: Kavanaugh and bear it and they think, well, wait. 681 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: What I mean? Neither are perfect. 682 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: Nobody's perfect, But how did those what happened? 683 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 11: Well, you know, we do have and I'm going to 684 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 11: assume they legitimately believe this. 685 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 8: You know, this is a legal. 686 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 11: Doctor and gold standing, and they, you know, believe that 687 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 11: this was not legally sufficient for these plaintiffs to come 688 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 11: in the dissent disagreed with them. So but I think 689 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 11: we're seeing this in many cases that you know, Roberts 690 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 11: and Barrett and Kavanaugh on many cases side with the 691 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 11: three liberals. 692 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 8: So you have an emerging court where. 693 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 11: It's not really six to three conservative to liberal, it's 694 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 11: really three three and three. It's you know, Alito and 695 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 11: Thomas and Gorsicch and then you've got the three liberals, 696 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 11: and then you've got you know, Roberts, and you've got Baron, 697 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 11: and you've got Kavanaugh. 698 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 8: Who could go anyway on any case. And so that's 699 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 8: what we're emerging. 700 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 11: People who thought they had a rock solid conservative court 701 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 11: don't have it. 702 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: Why don't we have it? 703 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: I know that's honestly it's a very open question that 704 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: maybe you can't even answer. But why does this happen? 705 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: How does this happen? Trump had three picks. Apparently we 706 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: got one who's just solid as a rock and two 707 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: that are. 708 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: Just whichever way the wind blows. How does that happen? 709 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 11: Well, you know, I think that's a phenomenon of DC that, 710 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 11: you know, people who rise to the top for whatever 711 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 11: the reason, over time tend to become more liberal. I mean, 712 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 11: we see that even with Roberts, we see that historically, 713 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 11: we see it with senators. There's something about being in 714 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 11: the DC culture, in the DC milieu, if. 715 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 8: That's the right way to pronounce it. 716 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 11: That tends to push people to become more milk toasty, 717 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 11: more centrist, more maybe even liberal. 718 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 8: They arrive in d C. 719 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 11: As you know, we finally got the conservative we want, 720 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 11: whether it's a politician or a judge. But over time 721 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 11: they sway to the culture there, and that that's a problem. 722 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 11: I don't know, you know, how to better diagnose this 723 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 11: than say it's a DC phenomenon. 724 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: What are we thinking about this Trump immunity opinion that 725 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 2: is coming Most of the people I talk to say 726 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: they're expecting some form of splitting the baby. 727 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: He's immune, but not all the way immune. What do 728 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: you think? 729 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's the consensus, and if I had 730 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 11: to guesstimate, that's where they will come out. They're not 731 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 11: going to say he has absolute immunity for anything he does, 732 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 11: you know, related to the presidency. I mean, if you 733 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 11: use Trump's classic example, I could shoot somebody in the 734 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 11: middle of Fifth Avenue and. 735 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 8: My supporters would still support me. 736 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 11: I don't think the Supreme Court is going to say 737 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 11: Donald Trump as president could shoot somebody in the middle 738 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 11: of Fifth Avenue and he's still. 739 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 8: Got absolute immunity. Forever. 740 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 11: I think what they're going to say is that, you know, 741 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 11: for certain types of acts that are clearly taken as president, 742 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 11: he has absolute, absolute immunity, and the courts will have 743 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 11: to sort out what, you know, how closely these acts 744 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 11: are to his presidential responsibilities. I don't think they're going 745 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 11: to go as far as the Trump lawyers want them to, 746 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 11: which is anything and I forget the word they use, 747 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 11: but basically within the orbit of the presidency is absolutely immune. 748 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 8: I don't think they're going to go that far. 749 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 11: And so I think we're going to get a decision 750 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 11: which gives them some immunity, is not going to delineate 751 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 11: exactly where that lies, and is going to kick it 752 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 11: back down to the lower courts. 753 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the January sixth political protesters. Where are 754 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: they going to get what are they going to get 755 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 2: out of this or some of these four staffs going 756 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: to get let out of prison? 757 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: They have these absurd prison terms. It's ridiculous. 758 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, so coming up and we're expecting tomorrow 759 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 11: or Friday is a case involving, you know, an interference 760 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 11: with an official proceeding. So what many, if not most, 761 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 11: if not almost all, of the January sixth protesters were 762 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 11: charged with were not crimes of violence and not no 763 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 11: one's been charged with insurrection. 764 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 8: It's interfering with an official proceeding. 765 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 11: And that is a statute which is coming up for 766 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 11: decision by the Supreme Court, and depending how they rule 767 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 11: on how broadly that goes, that could get a lot 768 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 11: of charges thrown out against a lot of the January 769 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 11: sixth protesters who were charged with your presence in the 770 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 11: Capitol was part of interfering with an official proceeding. And 771 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,959 Speaker 11: based on the questioning at the oral argument, I think 772 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 11: that that broad view of the statute is not going 773 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 11: to survive. The question is, after it doesn't survive, what 774 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 11: do the Feds do? And I think the Feds have 775 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 11: already made maneuvers and made clear they'll come up with 776 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 11: some alternative theory or something like that, and so there'll 777 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 11: be years of litigation. In the meantime, people have had 778 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 11: their lives ruined over implication of a statute that may 779 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 11: get thrown out again. We're not talking about someone who 780 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 11: bear spray to cop. That person's not going to get 781 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 11: saved by this ruling. It's really the people who just 782 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 11: happen to be in or around the capital that day, 783 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 11: and this is the statute the government invoked. 784 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 2: Phil We won't get it this term, but apparently next 785 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 2: term they're going to do some ruling on this child 786 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: mutilation we're doing with all this child training madness. 787 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: Are we expecting some kind of a win out of that? 788 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 8: I think we are. 789 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 11: I think that you know, we will the government the majority, 790 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 11: and of course I'm always hesitant to the majority. The 791 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 11: majority will rule that that is within a state's power 792 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 11: to regulate that if you are going to perform horrific 793 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 11: surgeries on children, that the state has a legitimate interest 794 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 11: in regulating that. And so I think that the law 795 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 11: I think it's out of Kentucky or Tennessee, is going 796 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 11: to survive the Supreme Court, and of course there will 797 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 11: be howls about it. And of course, you know everybody 798 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 11: uses euphemisms for a gender affirming care. I mean, we're 799 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 11: talking about cutting off people's private parts, mutilating surgeries, cutting 800 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 11: off the healthy breasts of sixteen and seventeen year olds. 801 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 11: I mean, really grewsome stuff that I think when we 802 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 11: look back, hopefully in the not distant future, people will say, 803 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 11: what the hell went wrong with our society that we 804 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 11: were allowing is to be done to children. 805 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: I no doubt Bill, Thank you, sir, I appreciate it. 806 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: All right, we have a great light in the mood. Next, 807 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: all right, it is time to lighten the mood. And 808 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 2: you know what brightens my day? There are many things 809 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 2: that brighten my day. Sunshine, great weather out there, good 810 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 2: breakfast in the morning, hanging with my fan. These things 811 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: all brighten my mood and lighten my mood. But I 812 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: would venture to say there's nothing in the world that 813 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 2: lightens my mood like me being right about stuff and 814 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 2: then being able to come on here on camera and 815 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: rub it in everyone's face that I'm right about stuff. 816 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: Do you remember when I went on TV and I 817 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: said this. 818 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: Now, Jamal Bowman is a dirty street communist from way back. 819 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 2: He got elected to Congress. He'll be there for fifteen 820 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: minutes and then they're going to primary amounts. 821 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: He's too much trouble. I got so many emails after that. 822 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: What they at least going to be there for everything? 823 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: They can't ever get rid of these guys. How did 824 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: I call that? Why did I know? 825 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 2: Because I understand there are two different kinds of communists. 826 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: There are two different divisions. 827 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: There are elite communists, politicians, billionaires, media moguls. These are 828 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 2: the ones who are not true believers, but they have 829 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 2: all the real power. 830 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: And then they're dirty. 831 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 2: Street communists, Black Lives Matter, other feminists, LGBTQ stuff, all 832 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: the street animals you see gluing themselves to the road. Oh, 833 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 2: they work together all the time. These guys are the 834 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: true believers. After all, these guys oftentimes need something vandalized 835 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 2: or someone murdered, and then they rely on the street 836 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: communists to do this. And occasionally you can make the 837 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: transition from street to elite. 838 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: They all want to make that transition. They don't want 839 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: to be dancing naked in the streets forever. They eventually 840 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: want to be in the halls of power. 841 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 2: Right, give me a nice little suit and time congressional pin. 842 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: But you're only allowed to make the transition and stay 843 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: with the elites if you can change some of your ways. 844 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 2: Too much of a barbarian. You're not allowed to make 845 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: trouble for them. Jamal Bowman made trouble for them over 846 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 2: and over and over again. I mean, after all, this 847 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 2: human being just couldn't control himself. 848 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 12: We are we gonna up old man. 849 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: Don seez fire now, y'all. 850 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 11: That's what we're doing. 851 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 12: Cease fire now, it's gonna help me. I'm gonna kick 852 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 12: some lost. Let drop stop the bombs. 853 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: Sorry anyway, Jamal A nice knowing you're my friend. Let's 854 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: see them all