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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast Marty Rosenblatt

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Speaker 1: with us. He has an MS in physics from UCLA

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Speaker 1: worked for thirty five years in areas of high energy

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Speaker 1: physics using computational techniques. He's the president of the Applied

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Speaker 1: Precognition Project APP and also dedicated to education and development

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Speaker 1: of precog pros. We'll tell you about that. And these

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Speaker 1: are natural follow ups to Physics Intuition Applications, which he

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Speaker 1: founded back in nineteen ninety eight. Marty, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the program. How are you. I'm doing great, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: How are you doing great? Thanks for joining us. You

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Speaker 1: know yesterday we were using clips of you and our

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Speaker 1: Beyond Belief television shows. People love you. Oh wow, that's terrific.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. How did you get started in this? How

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Speaker 1: did you go from your background in physics to getting

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Speaker 1: involved in I'm not going to call it the supernatural,

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Speaker 1: but it's different. That's right, because most of what's called supernatural,

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Speaker 1: I believe is actually natural but unusual. I got involved

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Speaker 1: in this because of my work high energy physics included

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Speaker 1: simulating nuclear weapons way back when in the late nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties and seventies, and so I had security clearances and

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Speaker 1: I was actually doing some work with the Defense Intelligence

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Speaker 1: Agency and I came across this report in the I

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Speaker 1: TRIPLEE Journal which talked about this strange thing and they

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Speaker 1: had named it remote viewing. They couldn't use psychic phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: And I went to the DA and they said, God,

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Speaker 1: you guys really need to know about this. Later I

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Speaker 1: found out they were funding it, but I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that at the time. They sent me out to Stafford

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Speaker 1: Research Institute and I actually met how Putoff and Russ

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Speaker 1: tar As you know, who were running program at SRI.

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Speaker 1: They showed me around and I got to meet them,

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Speaker 1: and of course I was so impressed with their work

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Speaker 1: that I stayed involved thereafter, you know, the interest level

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Speaker 1: and following the literature and that sort of thing. Have

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Speaker 1: you come up with your own thoughts on why remote

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Speaker 1: viewing works and how it works? Um? Yes, And I'm

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Speaker 1: really glad you asked that, because there's a model I've

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Speaker 1: way back when I was working with Skip Atwater, who

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Speaker 1: at Fort Meade. But then he went to the to

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Speaker 1: work with the Monroe Institute, and he did work at

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Speaker 1: the Monroe Institute and through various webinars there. Each time

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Speaker 1: I went there, I developed this model further, and it

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Speaker 1: basically comes from the fact that consciousness itself is fundamental.

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Speaker 1: Give me a few moments here, let me try to

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Speaker 1: explain it. Put sure absolutely remote viewing very directly around

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Speaker 1: for two hours marter. You got all the time you need, hope,

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Speaker 1: and you obviously feel free to jump in and ask

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Speaker 1: But the leaders of quantum mechanics themselves came to the

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Speaker 1: conclusion that consciousness is fundamental because the strange world of

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Speaker 1: quantum mechanics forced them to do that, because of what

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Speaker 1: is called the measurement problem. It is if when you

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Speaker 1: get down to these very very small particles or even

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Speaker 1: probability field basically, and what Schrodinger said, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Schrodinger equation is a fundamental equation. Quantum mechanics. Consciousness cannot

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Speaker 1: be accounted for in physical terms. For consciousness is absolutely fundamental.

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Speaker 1: It cannot be accounted for in terms of anything else.

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Speaker 1: And Max Plank and it's worth reading these quotes because

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Speaker 1: you have to realize these guys were struggling with this

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Speaker 1: here's Planks quote. I regard consciousness is fundamental. I regard

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Speaker 1: Now that idea goes way back, and my being a physicist,

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Speaker 1: explains not only remote viewing, in my opinion, explains virtually

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Speaker 1: all PSI phenomenon, including of course telepathy and really all

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Speaker 1: the other PSI phenomenon. A lot of people, Marty, doctors

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Speaker 1: to explain it is everything consciousness touches. So your conscious

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Speaker 1: now conscious moment is your experience. Your experience is consciousness,

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Speaker 1: and that goes down in the universe of collective consciousness. Well,

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Speaker 1: any idea that anybody any conscious experience, idea that anybody

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Speaker 1: of collective consciousness, and this includes past, present, and future.

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely clear that this universal collectives consciousness includes everything, past, present,

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Speaker 1: comes from there. Now, this universal collective consciousness is everything.

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Speaker 1: It has no boundary because imagine if Nora, you came

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Speaker 1: It's a lot like the physical world, frankly, no boundary,

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Speaker 1: no walls, nothing ending it. Now, what does this mean

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Speaker 1: this is the ultimate meaning of oneness. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: now it comes directly out of this model. You try

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Speaker 1: let's say, telepathically, because it's we're all hooked in. Well, see,

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Speaker 1: It's all done randomly. We have really that's interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the future. How many people see these things and don't

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Speaker 1: react to it until after the fact, and then they go,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I knew this would happen, right, And

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Speaker 1: that happens a lot. And that's why you don't even

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Speaker 1: have to do all the research. And it's been an

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Speaker 1: enormous round of research now done by scientists validating that

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Speaker 1: precognition occurs even though we don't have a model and

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Speaker 1: that's what upsets so many other scientists. But the reality

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Speaker 1: of it comes, I believe from this UCC because the

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Speaker 1: outcome is down there already and what we do and

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Speaker 1: what all remote viewers do, even that just remote viewing

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Speaker 1: a place where there's a missing person to get about

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Speaker 1: the sociate of remote viewing. What they're doing is getting

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Speaker 1: in touch with very strong intention and expectation and attention

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Speaker 1: to their task. And so somehow, and I mean this

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Speaker 1: is one of the biggest mysteries I would say in

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Speaker 1: the universe. Somehow consciousness can connect up with what's intended

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Speaker 1: to be found. Now, when there's feedback, you can see

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Speaker 1: how that would help because during the feedback session you

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Speaker 1: add this entanglement energy, okay, and it's through you. You know,

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Speaker 1: your DNA is vibrating all the time. And guess what

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Speaker 1: your DNA was vibrating with other unique things to you

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Speaker 1: during the remote viewing session, and now it's vibrating during

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Speaker 1: the feedback session after you know the truth and the

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Speaker 1: entanglement between those two is what makes precognition possible. Listen

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