1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 3: Was that was? 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: That was up everybody. This is Andrew Gillum. Put some 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: lotion on my hands because my mama talking to me 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: about not you know, have lotion hands anyway. Uh, y'all 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: listen real quick. This is coincidentally spring break for the kids. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: I am not at home spring break. We try to 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: make make our rounds, visit family and uh, you know, 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: find other things to distract us and the kids for 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: a couple of days. Hats off to teachers who do this. 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: You're in, Ye're out a month week, day after day, 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: all that good stuff. Anyway, So wherever you are, I 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: hope you're doing well. This is uh me coming to 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: you talking a little bit about this solo pod that 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing. We are how do you say? Angela and I. 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: I think Tiffany soon will be sort of branching off 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: to take various elements of either the news of the 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: day or issues we want to you know, brief and 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: educate people on, as well as strategies for how we 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: make it through. Frankly, the trying days wherein we find ourselves. 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: I have made the choice, at least for the first 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: many of my solo pods, to try to deepen into 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: a question that we keep getting pretty regularly on the 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: main show of Native Lampard around what do we do 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: the moment that we're in, the fights that we're having, 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: the apparent tyranny that goes unchecked at the national level, 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: what we're dealing with in our states and in our cities. 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: And I really I like the question, but I hate 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: the question because it puts it just loads up so 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: much on you when you think, well, what do I do? 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: What is the thing? People get you know, pressured and 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: feel really not up to the task, that they're not 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: the right people to do the thing that it is 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: that needs to be done. And I just wanted to 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: take a hit historical example of people getting together and 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: organizing a thing and it becoming something you know, bigger, bigger, 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: I think, than their initial ambitions. And the example I'd 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: like to use for on the aftermath of this past 41 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: weekend's sixtieth remembrance of Bloody Sunday, the march across the 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: Edmond Petties Bridge. I want to use the Montgomery Bus 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: boycotts as sort of a background and we know it, 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: of course as the big transformational Montgomery bus boycotts today, 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: But back then, if we were to trace back to, 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: you know, the work of Rosa Parks nineteen fifty five 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: when she made her refusal, it's important to note that 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: there were those who had been arrested frankly prior to 49 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: Rosa Parks's refusal. Claudette Colving comes to mind, the fifteen 50 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: year old who less than a year prior to to 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: to Rosa Parks's refusal also refused to get up uh 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: and give her seat away in the Negro section of 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: the bus where she had paid her fare to be 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: able to sit. Uh. But we thank all of those 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: who came before. But I just wanted to provide a 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: little bit of context for how this very local action 57 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: kind of ballooned and when and and relate that to 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: this big question of what do we do? What do 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: we do? What do we do? And it being almost 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: paralyzing to think about. Well, some of you may know, 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: but there was a little room group at the time 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: called the neighborhood uh improved the excuse me, Montgomery Improvement 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: Association that doctor King would eventually come to lead, but 64 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: prior to uh Doctor King leading it, it had the 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: name of the Negro Council, the Local Negro Council, which 66 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: the name was changed because because it was in such 67 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: close assemblance to the White Council, which was a racist organization, 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: that in order for the framing to go right, they 69 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: made the name change. Nonetheless, the Neighborhood Improvement Association there 70 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: at Montgomery pre existed the work done around the bus boycotts. 71 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: They were formed with the pretty important but singular notion 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: of how to improve life for black people in Montgomery 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: at that time, very focused, very discrete in its orientation 74 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: and its mission, certainly not you know, change American history 75 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: and American law and make separate but equal, you know, 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: inherently unequal, even as it relates to accommodations public accommodations. 77 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: It started small. So as you think about things in 78 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: your own community, things you want to see changed, improvements 79 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: you want to see made. I just want you to 80 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: see that this sort of tracks with what happened back then, 81 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: that there were things that people in the local community 82 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: came together and said, ah, we got to change this, 83 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: we need some some that it can be better and 84 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: we can do the work to make it better. Montgomery 85 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: Improvement Association m IA as it came to be called, 86 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: not to be confused with missing in an action. It 87 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: was anything but. When the bus boycotts began that November fifth, 88 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: with the support of the National Association for the Advancement 89 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: of Colored People and obviously the local community, the empty 90 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: buses on that day were shock, such a shock to 91 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: the system, nobody expected it. The white folks in the 92 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: community didn't know what to do. And at the end 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: of that day, the community meeting, the gathering which were 94 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: being held nightly in churches, gathered at a local amb church, 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: you know, packed with black folks there Montgomery, and at 96 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: the time the Black censites of Montgomery was around seventeen 97 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: five hundred people. They gathered and they took the position 98 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: that they had to continue the bus boycott. So what 99 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: was initially a one day event, these folks make the 100 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: decision when they fell the agency and the power of 101 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: their actions that hey, hey we shook something up. This 102 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: thing got to continue. Literally did they know that continuation 103 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: meant three hundred and eighty two days of protests, of resistance, 104 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: of inconvenience so that they could bring the system to heal. 105 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: And I got to imagine that over those many, many days, 106 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: over that year's time, there were probably a lot of 107 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: people who eventually said, all right, y'all, this system is 108 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: too big. We can't break it. And I'm reminded of 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: this poem. That line of the poem is when things 110 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: seem worse, that you mustn't quit. A lot of times 111 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: in our fights, things feel dark, they feel tough, they 112 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: feel immovable, and quite frankly, it launches its fiercest attack 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: right before it crumbles, right before it falls. And so yes, 114 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: these times of mobilization, we will have high and low days. 115 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: But they persisted, and through their persistence and their commitment 116 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: to the goal, we were able to see American history, 117 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: not just you know, not just in Montgomery, but I 118 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: think world history and the self efficacy that black folks 119 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: felt that we could decide to do a thing and 120 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: that thing can be done even when the power on 121 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: the other side seems are all powerful, uh and not 122 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: not able to crumble. Where does this relate back to 123 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: what it is that we're talking about today and what 124 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: we're confronting. I just want to bring down the size 125 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: the civil rights movement takes on such this huge space 126 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: as it should. It was transformational for history and for us. 127 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: A lot of times we refuse to pull back the 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: layers of Okay, how did we get there? What happened 129 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: to get us to this point? How did they organize it? 130 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: What did we? You know, who knew doctor King? You know, 131 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: if doctor King doesn't exist in our communities anymore, well, 132 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, let the story be told on it. Doctor 133 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: King was selected to lead uh the m I, a 134 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Montgomery Improvement Association. He was chosen, according to Rosa Parks, 135 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: because he was young, relatively new, and frankly hadn't built 136 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: up a lot of enemies amongst ministers and others in 137 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: the Montgomery area. And so he was chosen to lead 138 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: this group. And he, after some you know, in trepidation, 139 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: decided that he would he would take on that that mission. 140 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: But the people made that choice, A group of folks 141 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: in a community made those choices, and obviously history took 142 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: its course, and diviner dimension being what it is, he 143 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: was the right person, it was the right time, and 144 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: they were the right group. But so too is that 145 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: possibility for all of us. I wanted to give three 146 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: or maybe four pieces of advice as we approach what 147 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: is going to be my series in this solo pod, 148 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: which will bring to you individuals through interviews and through 149 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: conversation like this movement examples and curricula that I'm going 150 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: to borrow from an effort known as start sca art 151 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: to try to walk us through. Okay, what are some 152 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: of the steps and hopefully it can be useful to you. 153 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 2: Everything may not be useful to you. This may not 154 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: be useful. You may know this history and it may 155 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: not be important to you, but hopefully you can keep 156 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: what is useful and suspend with the rest. All right, 157 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm humble enough to know that everything won't be directly 158 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: applicable to everybody. But we trace these examples back over 159 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: history because they give us the belief that the thing 160 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: we want to do can be done. And in some cases, 161 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: the thing we want to do may not have ever 162 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: been attempted before, or maybe it was attempted and was unsuccessful, 163 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: and then you're birthing something very new. But in the 164 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: time in which you're doing it, you can't be focused 165 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: on making history or even changing history. They weren't in 166 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: the Montgomery Improvement Association. They willocused on changing the lift 167 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: conditions of black people every day in that city, just 168 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: like many of us are challenged to do at a local, 169 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: at a state, or at a national level. At this time, 170 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: three pieces of advice. As we get at this question 171 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: of what do we do and how do we get started? 172 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 2: The start and a number of other organizing movement strategies 173 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: give us a little bit of hint into how we 174 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: do that. And the first thing I want to suggest 175 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: to you is that you began to assemble a group 176 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: of people, small group folks you know, maybe some you 177 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: don't know so well, but you have a sense that 178 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: you share something in common. I don't want to give 179 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: you all the criteria, but certainly there are to be 180 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 2: some like minded concern amongst are gathering small group of folks. 181 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, your action doesn't always have to 182 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: be with groups. It can also be very individual. And 183 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: we'll talk about that. If not, we're gonna get to 184 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: it this time next time. But get a small group together. 185 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: That's number one. Who are people who share generally your issue, 186 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: your aks, your concern talk amongst each other. Number two? 187 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: And a house setting at a coffee shop. However it 188 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: is you decide to organize this group of like minded 189 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: people and allow everyone who's around that space, at that 190 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: table to offer their real, true, heartfelt feelings about what 191 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: is under their crawl, what's concerning them, what has them anxious, nervous, 192 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: troubled by our community, by the country, by the state, 193 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: by the local place where we are on our street, 194 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: in our neighborhood. That's number two. Allow everybody to get 195 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: their voices out and be heard. The buy ind is 196 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: greater when we do that. People feel greater ownership, They 197 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: feel heard and hopefully reflected through the work of the group. 198 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: When everybody gets to pour in their thoughts and feelings, 199 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: that's number two. Number three. Once you all have gathered that, 200 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: you have shared your thoughts, opinions, trepidations about what it 201 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: is you are facing, you all as a group are facing. 202 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: The third thing that we want you to do is 203 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: start to read, study, pull some examples, you know, look 204 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: at some PBS documentaries on some things that may have 205 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: happened that may give you just some advice on how 206 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: to start approaching some of the core of the work, 207 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: which will be the development of an action plan. All 208 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: of the kinds of tactics and actions that you want 209 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: to execute on the way to the goal. But the 210 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: resourcing just trying to educate yourselves as a group or 211 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: appoint individuals to help bring the group under some common 212 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: shared set of resources. And then the fourth and I 213 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: think most important thing to do in this early phase 214 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: is to decide what is this thing then that we 215 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: want to change, What do we do about it? What 216 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: do we is it that we want to like the 217 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: Montgomer Improvement Association, change the conditions of black folks and 218 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: this community on transportation, public accommodations, bussing, you know, other 219 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: specificities that of course we know history, and we know 220 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: that it ballooned to become something much bigger than it 221 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 2: originally started. But I got to tell you, I think 222 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: we would admit that those folks did not gather in 223 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: that room necessarily believing they were going to change American 224 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: and world history. In fact, I have paused to anyone 225 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: who would begin an effort like this with the goal 226 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: of history change, frankly being at the center, and not 227 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: change for the thing, the circumstance, the conditions that have 228 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: gotten you to the point of frustration or action that 229 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: you are but now together in a group of shared 230 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, like minded thinking you can determine, all right, 231 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: what do we want to do? If we had our drothers, 232 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: if we were able to decide for ourselves, if we 233 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: were able to build the outcome, and we are the 234 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: only ones who had input and what that thing was 235 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: going to be, what would it look like? It feels 236 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: daunting and unachievable to day, but you know, we put 237 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: some real strategy together, we can make this thing happen. 238 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: So we want that. We want you to we we 239 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: we we want you to begin with the goal in mind, 240 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: the change, the delta, the change that you want to 241 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: have happen in mind. The absence of doing that allows 242 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: for your work to be carried off in directions of 243 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: which you never ever intended and are not consistent with 244 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: the greater change that you want to see. It allows 245 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: for every little thing that happens to pierce this body 246 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: of people and get us distracted and off on different things. 247 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: For those of you who are sort of faith in 248 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: my comment or share faith tradition, you know, it's sort 249 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: of this, this belief that the devil thrives in chaos, 250 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: They create chaos. You know, you want to you want 251 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: to mess some people up and destroy a movement, or 252 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: keep some things from happening amongst a group with with 253 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: with with shared interest, give them different languages so that 254 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: they can't communicate. Some of y'all will know what reference 255 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: that is too, right, So the chaos is something we've 256 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: got to deal with. But the central goal letting folks know, 257 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: like man, this is the thing we want to see 258 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: at the end of the day. And guess what Providence 259 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: will take its course. If it's meant to be something 260 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: different and it aligns with you all in your heart 261 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: and your core, it'll go that direction and consistent keeping 262 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: with what brought you together. So it's crystally important if 263 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: I could make crystal clear the importance of that shared goal, 264 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: that shared outcome, y'all. I want to move quickly to 265 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: questions because my intention is to try to keep these 266 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: within twenty twenty five minutes, not to take too much 267 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: of your time. And by the way, I'm supposed to be 268 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: on spring break with the kids. Oh yeah, there's that, 269 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: so I want to invite my girl lol lol, I 270 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: know you. Yeah, there you go. Well, welcome home, lolo. 271 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: You guess some interesting background, what's up? But I like 272 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: the flowers where you at last time we got a 273 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: race car. 274 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: All right, I am good. I am good. 275 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: I have some interesting things going away. I'm not gonna 276 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: say allow because you're not. 277 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: I'm happy. 278 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: I get it. I get it, I get it, I 279 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: get it, I get it. But it's all good. You're 280 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: gonna be all good. We're counting it, counting it counted. Done, Yes, Lolo. 281 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if any of that was helpful to 282 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: you as a as a as a listener. But you know, 283 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel on the show because 284 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: you've had a lot of the questions for the main show, 285 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: but this is when that often comes up, what do 286 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: we do? How do we get started? And it feels 287 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: so ballooning, and I just think it's part our job 288 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: at this time to bring it down the side so 289 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: that people feel like they can they can get a 290 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: go at it. 291 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm taking a look at the questions that 292 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: you have gotten up until this point, and I think 293 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: it's very pliant to what it is that you're asking 294 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: or what people have been asking of, like what do 295 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: we do? So I'm gonna go through the questions, and 296 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: then I do want to talk this through because you 297 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: and I have gotten to be activated a lot, you know, 298 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 3: over this last week. Yes, and seeing the inspiration of 299 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: people being inspired to do. 300 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: Something in that sense, that's right. 301 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: So okay, So one of the first questions that I 302 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: see is somebody said, when we call our senators with 303 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: all of this chaos, is there a few guidelines that 304 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: we should develop to focus on when we call the capital? 305 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: So that's that's a good question. 306 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: It is a good question. And while I'm trying to answer, 307 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: I want you to pull up that link on the 308 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: messaging so for instance, around must doge all that that 309 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: is coming from that other group that that your referenced 310 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: that I'm not saying the name of, because yeah, that 311 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: gives some talking points for folks when they're doing it. 312 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: I'll point to just two quick things. There's so last week, 313 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: if you miss it, there was this twenty four hour 314 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: heavy content field with some really joyous moments but also 315 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: some real, real gifts and talents being shared by a 316 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: lot of the names that you will know and recognize. 317 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: And we were trying to school people just across the 318 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: range of issues and ways in which we've got to 319 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: bring this fight right now or certainly respond to the 320 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: fight that we're in and you can visit this was 321 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: the State of the People that I'm referring to, and lolo, 322 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, we have the link to watch 323 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: it in its entirety or its parts actually. 324 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: All parts of it will be available to watch on Wednesday. 325 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: So if you go to Stateofthepeople dot media, you can 326 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: push your email in and we'll actually start sending out 327 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: a lot of different resources that are available. You'll be 328 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: able to see all of the different lies. And then 329 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: also if you go to Stay of the People so 330 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: as PPL for people on Instagram, follow that. We also 331 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: have some stuff like it inspired so many people to 332 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: come together and they're like, we can't just leave it here, 333 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: so they have like this whole plan and we've been planning. 334 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: We have this whole plan. 335 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: About how to move forward and how to containe this 336 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: collective action of advocating. 337 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: So that's right, that's right, and the collective is really cool, 338 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: y'all because it reminds us that we're not in it alone. 339 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: We got folks that we can lean on when when 340 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: we're not at one hundred percent, you know, we're at fifty. 341 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: Let's just let's just pray that the partner in the 342 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: group is out one hundred and fifty to compensate for 343 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: the fifty that you don't have. But that's what group 344 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: help helps us to do. But but there are very 345 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: clear guidance that we should always have when reach when 346 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: we're reaching out to people in power and an influence 347 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 2: around the thing that we want them to do. The 348 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: message simply has been around you know, doze and the 349 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: cuts and all of this rabbit, you know, nonsensical action 350 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: that is happening at the federal level is you are 351 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: the Congress of United States. To you, all of the 352 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: first branch of government and a coequal system of three branches, 353 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: stand up and do your job, stop them from what 354 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: they're doing, stand in the way, ask questions whatever whatever 355 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: is again the movement's goal at that time, those need 356 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: to be. Those need to be the comments in which 357 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: that we are sharing with our members. Now, I'll tell 358 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: you I've been elected and I've been on the receiving 359 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: end of messages like this, and I got to tell 360 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: you it's not every day that a Congressman's office blows 361 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: up with phone calls. And when it does, it is 362 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: a special thing. And let me tell you this, they 363 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: take notice the reason why Republicans have been instructed to 364 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: stop hosting town hall meetings around the country is because 365 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: they're getting to hear directly from people and they liking 366 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: what they're seeing and they're demanding some change. So their 367 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: leadership say, hey, y'all just stop having the meetings. Well, 368 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: they can stop having them if they want, but they 369 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: won't diminish the sentiment. In fact, the sentiment will likely 370 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: grow stronger, louder, more resilient, and frankly closer to its 371 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: aims achieving its aims. So we want consistent messaging to 372 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 2: come out as an elected I didn't like the whole 373 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: threat thing, like I put you in, I put you out, 374 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: I google your name in the database, and you ain't 375 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: voted in seven years, So I'm not really terrified that 376 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: you're going to do that, right. This is just thinking 377 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: as a person who's like, it's this threat real. But 378 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: if you are a voter and you do do this consistently, 379 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: let them know I am a voter in your area 380 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: and I don't miss an election. I'm expecting you to 381 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 2: be there and to represent me. So that kind of thing. 382 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: Be clear about the message, the goal that we're trying 383 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: to achieve and then in your tactics, you know, again 384 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: the threat, make sure if you make it, you backing 385 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: it up. 386 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: I just seen this comment. 387 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: Somebody was like, it would be a great idea for 388 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: the nymps to start having town halls in the Republican 389 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 3: areas where you know they've been saying that they're not 390 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: going to be doing those town halls anymore. I think 391 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: that is such a great idea. 392 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: I think Dems ought to be doing town halls in 393 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: their own communities, to be very frank about it, because 394 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: that's how you awaken this sleeping giant. The majority of 395 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: people in this country who are eligible and registeredtive vote 396 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 2: not voting, more than half the country choosing not to participate. 397 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so there was another question that said, how 398 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 3: do we begin to get engaged again? I'm in the 399 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: ninety two percent and burned my cape on eleven, six. 400 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 4: Twenty four. I'm tired and in at rest. 401 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to help anyone, but as black votes, 402 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: is there a way to move past this intense hurt? 403 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's hard, It is very hard. I sympathize 404 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: with it. I know. On the main show, if it 405 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: were Tiffany and Angela, they would tell you. In fact, 406 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Angela's is pretty consistent in saying, I don't even believe 407 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: the outcome, but you know this is where we are. 408 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: It hurts, It absolutely hurts when you put everything into it. 409 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons why I mentioned in talking 410 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: about the Montgomerymprovement Association. Do you think on the night 411 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: of that town hall where they were asked at the 412 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: end of the day, on the first day of the protest, 413 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: when it was wildly successful and the buses were empty, 414 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: do you think the answer would have still been a 415 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: resounding yes, I'm gonna stick at this if it's going 416 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: to take us three hundred and eighty two days to 417 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: get the outcome we want. And my guess is is 418 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: if folks had to meet that challenge of how long 419 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: I gotta do this upfront, many of us wouldn't choose 420 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: to take the first step in the first place. So 421 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: just know that what you are feeling is real. It 422 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: is it is. It is not abnormal. It is very 423 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: normal during these times. But the way I would caution 424 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: you to resist is the folding and giving in and 425 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 2: let be what will happen. Right live and let live 426 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: and carpetia. Whatever happens is what happens. The problem with that, 427 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: particularly for US black folks, people of color, those who 428 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: sit at the margins society, is just know that we 429 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: are always going to be at the worst end of 430 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: the consequence when these folks are in power, the worst end. 431 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: They're coming for us, and they may be coming for 432 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: some others too, but it's going to sweep us out 433 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: first and then they'll get to the next thing. And 434 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: so if our if the consequence for us not being 435 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: involved didn't savage us so greatly, I could get with 436 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: I'm backing out, I'm tapping out, I can whatever. But 437 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: because whether you tap in or out, you're on the 438 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: front line of the negative side of this. We believe 439 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: in harm reduction as a strategy as well, and so 440 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: if you've got to do this just to reduce the 441 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: harm that could be coming your way, let that maybe 442 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: be motivation. Let you know, the example of Montgomery three 443 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty two be a motivation, and there are 444 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: probably other examples that we could point to as well. 445 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: But resist the desire, the urge, the feeling to pull up, 446 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: pull back, because that's exactly what the enemy wants. The 447 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: reason why they're deluging us, you know, is a delusion, 448 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: bad news every day and they're moving at the speed 449 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: that they are is they want our heads on a swivel. 450 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: They want us spinning to the point where we feel 451 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: like we have no recourse what we do. And when 452 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: they get louder, this is when you know we're piercing them. 453 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: And can I add real quick? 454 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: We posted something on you know, Joyce said this during 455 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: the twenty four hour towel hall. She started off and 456 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: she was like, some people say politics, they don't do politics. 457 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: Your politics is always do you do you? 458 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: And I and I really resonated with that. 459 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: And then we also post Stacey Abram's posts about this 460 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: is not the time to rest. 461 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: And I know that there's a lot of people who 462 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 4: are hired. 463 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I am a strong believer that you don't 464 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 3: have to exhaust yourself trying to save or build this 465 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: new rome in a day. 466 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 4: Just small things of people buying their part. 467 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: Small bites. Absolutely, I agree with you one thousand percent. 468 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: I said. My wife hits me over the head because 469 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: I said so much. You can't eat an elephant and 470 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: one bite all at once. No, whatever it is, you 471 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: can't eat it all at once. You have to take 472 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 2: bites out of it. And when you the beautiful part 473 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: about stress strategy and doing this with a group of 474 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: people is when you're working your plan, you're kind of 475 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: immune to all of the noise and the mess because 476 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: you are working your plan and and you'll get fulfillment 477 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: from the successes that you achieved along the way to 478 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: the big goal. So resist, resist that urge that that's 479 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: that's that's not of us, that's a that's a tool 480 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: of the enemy. So I resist that. 481 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: And I want to I think we got time for 482 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: one more question. 483 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So and I'm just going to group a 484 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: bunch of questions that I'm seeing together. Okay, people are 485 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: mentioning the primary election, special elections coming up, primaries coming up, 486 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: and so it's like, how do we leverage these things? 487 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: What do we do? 488 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: How do we engage? Yeah, so just to quick mention, 489 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: there are two primaries coming up very soon in my 490 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: home state of Florida to Republican distric, one of which 491 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: was previously occupied by Matt Gates. Those seats are up, 492 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: and although they're happening in pretty strongly Republican areas, the 493 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: other side is very nervous that there's a chance that 494 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: a Democrat could potentially sweep in and when, and what 495 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: makes them nervous is when we are showing action and 496 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: activity on the ground. Y'all. If your people aren't doing 497 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: what they're supposed to do, and I mean at every 498 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: level of government, and you all collectively or individually have 499 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: something to offer that could be better than what you've 500 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 2: got the alternative, then we ought to be running and 501 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: moving the alternatives to take on many of these seats. 502 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: Moms for Liberty a group that has taken over many 503 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: school boards around the country, certainly in Florida. A lot 504 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: of these candidates right wing, extreme folks who want history 505 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: and black history and all mentions of anything that could 506 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: offend white children no longer in textbooks or in assignments 507 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: or of resources. They are getting on school boards with 508 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: just slivers of votes and having all power to determine 509 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: what happens to your children and our children at the 510 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: local educational level. And by the way, their kids either 511 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: have been moved out and already in privacy school getting 512 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: subsidized by taxpayers, or are in schools where basically everybody 513 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: looks the same and so they'll get little resistance when 514 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: they try to push things like our history out of 515 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: libraries and out of textbooks. So the way we engage 516 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: is we have to fight back. Joy's point, and I 517 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: appreciate you bringing it up. Lo low you and do politics, 518 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: but it does you. That is a very common refrain. 519 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: I don't talk about. It is in every aspect of 520 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 2: our lives. The fact that we are even on this 521 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: forum communicating, and the regulatory environment makes for it to 522 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: be available for all of us. Doesn't have to be 523 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: that way. The regulatory environment could be I gotta pay 524 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: you for everybody who seize me, and for everything that 525 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: you see, you gotta pay for. And by the way, 526 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna limit your ability to have lives like this 527 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: to ten minutes, and you got to do it. You 528 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: gotta do a mat period and by the way, you 529 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: can't do it more than once a month. Yeah, that 530 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: could become the regulatory environment Instagram or TikTok TikTok. Sorry, 531 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm not on that, so I apologize for whatever. But 532 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: the TikTok ban, right, if that were to be enforced, 533 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: the ban on TikTok operating in the United States means 534 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: you don't do politics as you do on your TikTok, 535 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: but your TikTok can be taken away and now you've 536 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: got nothing. So I just those are hopefully some examples 537 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: that show you in the ways in which it shows 538 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: up in the most and most consequential ways, but also 539 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: in ways that we don't even recognize or think about, 540 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: but it bears consequence on. So get involved, organized, replace 541 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: people where necessary, and in other places elect and elevate 542 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: some people who are doing what we need them to do. 543 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I just want to say this last thing. 544 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: It's not a question. I just want to put this plug. 545 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: And Andrew didn't know this. On Wednesdays, we're gonna start 546 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: doing this thing on the social media. So you can 547 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: go to Native lamp Pod social media and we're gonna 548 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: have a question day. So you'll see a post and 549 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: it's gonna be like cause these like Unfortunately, we want 550 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: to have these conversations and have you all ask as 551 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: many questions as possible, but sometimes we just don't get 552 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: to them. And so on that Wednesday, you'll be able 553 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 3: to go post your question and then we're gonna engage 554 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: right back with you. So make sure that you tie 555 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: your friends, tells people, but on Wednesday, this is going 556 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: to be our new thing. 557 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 558 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: I love that, Lolo and Lolo, I appreciate your help 559 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: and wishing you well on that end. And for y'all 560 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: who tuned in, thank you. We're gonna try and keep 561 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: these as brief as we can, because we know time 562 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: is the currency. It's not replenishable. You don't get more 563 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 2: of it, so when you choose to spend it with us, 564 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: we appreciate it, we value it, and stay tuned to 565 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: these minis because not many's lord solos, y'all got so 566 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: many names for all these goddamn things have has done. Anyway, 567 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: these solo pods that we're doing again, I'm going to 568 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: deepen into over the coming weeks through interviews and through 569 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: examples various stages of organizing, and I will use curricula 570 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: that you will also be able to access on your side, 571 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: so that we can follow each other along as we 572 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: as we try to do what we gotta do to 573 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: a build rather the beloved community. And with that, welcome home, everybody, 574 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: Welcome home, Lolo, welcome home, y'all, see y'all later. 575 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership 576 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 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