1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: All right, quick addition of splash hit Territory. Today, it's 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: travel day. Giants are heading to Baltimore after the game. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Susan Slessler joins us again. She's got to travel tomorrow. 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm traveling with the ball club today, So I got 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: my suitcase over here. Everything's going crazy. It's a morning 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: of travel day. But more importantly than us, the Giants 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: won six to nothing last night against the Phillies. A 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: great game by Robbie Ray. Lots to talk about from 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: last night's game. So, Susan, there's your piece on last 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: night's game. What did you write about? What did you think? 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Well, technically that was SHANEA. Rubin's piece, but yeah, Shana 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: doing a wonderful job as always for the Chronicle. But yeah, 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: first of all, I'm worried FP is gonna like take it. 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: We're just gonna see his like vapor trail as he 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: runs out the door because he was like, let's go, 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: let's go, let's go. 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: So I'm not into a podcast on travel days. I'm 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: not gonna lie right now. 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: It's a show and you have to have a better 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: attitude about this. I'm not going to talk to you 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: about this again. Young man, it's like six months younger 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: than me. Okay, so let's start with our categories, because 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: our categories midweek are heating up, and in a funk 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: heating up, We've got some pretty primo candidates here. FP. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: Who are you going to take? 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Well, I could take Daniel Susak because what a great 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: story that is. He's going for six hits in a row, 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: but five for five to start his career, and there's 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: probably a lot of controversy. Maybe we get to him 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: in a minute, but I want to take Willia Damas 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: right now because I came to the ballpark before Game 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: one of the series and they had the machine set 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: up at home plate at three o'clock and he's got 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: his shirtless, his sleeveless shirt on, and he's hitting everything 35 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: to right field, and he was out there early and 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: everything was the other way. So what do you see 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: in game more of the series? A couple of doubles 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: the other way that one after ran off the wall. 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Then last night, you know, a couple of doubles again. 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: So you know, we sit there and go He's a 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: slow starter. The only thing you do when you start 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: slow as a team as an individual is work your 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: way through it and to see these guys out there 44 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: getting their work in every day and to see it 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: translate for because I could go with Susack, but right 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: now I think Willie domads is such a big part 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: of this big piece of this puzzle that that's a 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: little bit more important. 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: It's interesting I was going to go with Chapman because 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: I assumed you'd go Sue Sack. Susick is you know, 51 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: look a small sample size, but holy cow set and records, franchise, 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: records breaking one. You know, Willie McCovey basically had like 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: this is kind of all He's second, what second best 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: start all time in the majors after Ted Cox in 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven. This is epic stuff. But I still 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: might take Chapman just because this homestand okay, not what 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: they wanted against the Mets, but important guy, middle ish, 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: part of the order, and he's ten for his last 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: twenty four. He's also been under an awful out of fire, 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: something that adamis is sort of avoided, even though they 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: are both team leaders. Part of it's Chapman's fault, you know, 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: he pops off in San Diego on the mound. We 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: all saw that, and you know, then at home he 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: does the boneheaded base running with in the Mets one 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: of the Mets games, and then didn't talk He very talked, 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: very We'll talk about this later because we hadn't spoken 67 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: to him yet, but you know, he didn't talk to 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: us the next day at length. There was a reason, 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Anyway, I'm going to take him because 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 2: he's kind of been a focus of some fan unhappiness, 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: which is crazy. He is such a I feel like 72 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: he is not necessarily appreciated enough by this fan base 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: quite yet. But when he's going, you know, I've seen 74 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: him for a very long time, he's he's he's really 75 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: a special player. And the defense, even after slow start, 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: the defense is just spectacular. 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: That's that's a really good point you make about Chapman. 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: And obviously we got to talk about Sue Sack. Chapie's 79 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: line drive though that double one hundred and twelve miles 80 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: an hour last night, and he came in four for 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: eight of Christopher Sanchez. Then he ended up seven for 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: eleven off Christopher Sanchez, one of the most easique pitchers 83 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: in all the baseball So that's the ownage on an 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: A lister, So good for Chappie Man, that's outstanding. But 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Susack's been everything. I think more importantly than the 86 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: numbers offensively is he's starting to evolve into Robbie Ray's 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: personal catcher, and that could all evolve into something else 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: if he keeps hitting. It's such a small sample size 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: with hit, and if he would have started his career 90 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: zero for six, I would still be a Daniel Sussack fan. 91 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to overreact to the to the 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: five for six start, it's super cool, it's a great story. 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Good for him, but he wrote a shutout last night 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: and he wrote a winner last night. So for a 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: twenty four year old catcher to do both of those 96 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: things as a backup catcher for now, and I think 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: he's going to remain the backup catcher for a minute. 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: You got to get Patrick Bailey a chance, you going, 99 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. A shutout, Robbie Ray, a win, 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: he's two for two, he's two and zeros a catcher 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: with the. 102 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: Giants well, and to me, you know again, he comes 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: off the bench after sitting for a while, makes a 104 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: start against one of the National League's toughest pitchers. Yeah, lefty, 105 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see Susack a lot against 106 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: left handed starters. But it's Christopher Sanchez. I mean, this 107 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: is a and one of the best, a finished second 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: in the say young I just a phenomenal pitcher. You 109 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: would not necessarily think this was a guy that Susack 110 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: thrived against, but he followed the game plan, which was 111 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: go the other way, go up the middle. All the 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Giants hitters talked about that after the game, that this 113 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: was the game plan, and Susack followed it perfectly. He 114 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: seems to be able to sit for a while and 115 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: come out swinging with no problem. And I just that 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: blows my mind. For a young player, you just don't 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: see that. And a catcher, especially there, there's so much 118 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: on catcher's plate every single day. They're usually the first 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: ones there, they're often the last to leave. They got 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: to do everything everyone else does, but kind of double 121 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: because they've also got to have the game plan work 122 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: with the pictures. And he's so young, and you know 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: it's his experience level, even at the upper level of 124 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: the miners is pretty limited. He's a rule five guy. 125 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: This is just pretty extraordinary. Honestly, when you think about 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: what we're seeing here. They took Blake Sable as a 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: rule five catcher a couple of years ago, we never 128 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: saw anything like this from him. It's tough. It's really 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: tough to be a rule five guy. Very few make 130 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: it to the big leagues and really even stick. Look 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: what he's doing. My goodness, and Tony Veitel is talking 132 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: about already about giving him more time. I think that 133 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: probably means against lefties, and you're right against Ray, which 134 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm also really excited about. But wow, this is cool. 135 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: This is amazing. Like I felt like, you know, I 136 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: was off last night, but I was watching every Susac 137 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: at bat like very closely. Fun. 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked about doing the broadcast with John last night. 139 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: I said, what a great game plan from the Giants 140 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: to to go the other way and to let the 141 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: ball get deep. And if you try to pull this guy, 142 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: Christopher Sanchez, you're just gonna roll over. You have to 143 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: elevate him, look for the ball up and out over 144 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: the plate. So it was kind of nice to see 145 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: that opposite field approach for the Giants and that to 146 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: work for all those guys, and you know, if he 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: makes a mistake, you catch him out front, you pull him, 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: but the game plan is to you know, go the 149 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: other way up the middle. So great job by the 150 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: offense last night, A great job by Robbie Ray last night. 151 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Walker, it was it was it was a Ryan 152 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Walker one. But he got the job done. And then 153 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: Keaton Wynn came in and did a good job too. 154 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: So just all over a victory they needed. They just 155 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: needed a feel good one. And I think Susan, today's 156 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: even more important because it's day game after night game 157 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: into a good flight, the happy flight thing that you 158 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: want to talk about, into an off day in Baltimore. 159 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: So today's a big momentum day for the Giants. If 160 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: they can get a win, get on the plane, go 161 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: to Baltimore, chill on the off day, and then go 162 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: get the Orioles. I don't think Tony's had a happy 163 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: flight yet, Tony Vaitello, he doesn't know what how loud 164 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: the music can get on a Giant's charter if they 165 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: win today. So I think that's important in a. 166 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Long flight too. So yeah, and I know a lot 167 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: of people will probably be listening or watching to this 168 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: after the game, so I you know, certainly we need 169 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: to account for that, but yeah, they they need to 170 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: kind of salvage something on this homestand longish homestand and 171 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: all very long road trip coming up. You kind of 172 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: want to set the tone, right. It's a weird one. 173 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: We've talked about this Baltimore Cincinnati DC. Okay, this isn't 174 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: quite as tough as what they were looking at to 175 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: start the season here, but the travel is no joke. 176 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: That's not going to be a super fun nor easy trips. 177 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think getting out of San Francisco with 178 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: another win, I think would really behoove them. But let's 179 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: talk about our other category today in a funk because 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: not everyone's getting going, you know, it's this is one 181 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: one game. To me, it's still the middle of the 182 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: order guys apart from Chapman Devers needs to get going, 183 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: and kind of low key Elliott Ramos, he's right in 184 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: there in that mix four or five. He's been a 185 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: little slow to get going to the homestand particularly has 186 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: not been particularly kind to him. What are you seeing 187 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: from Ramos? And who's you're in a funk? Guy? 188 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: I think it's Elliott. I mean the three strikeouts last night, 189 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: he could have had a little tapper single they scored 190 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: in an air at the end. But his strikeout rate 191 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: is like thirty nine percent right now. I was reading 192 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter before we came on here, and he just 193 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: needs to put the ball in playboard. What I see 194 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: with him, he's just late. So when you're in, when 195 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're not getting your foot down early 196 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: and the ball's on you. And he's doing this, and 197 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: he's filing balls this way when he gets that foot 198 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: down early and catches it out front. Even when he 199 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: keeps his hands inside the baseball and drives it the 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: other way, he's still catching it out front. But right now, 201 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: his whole thing, he's just getting down a little late, 202 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: and he's doing that and lots lots of foul balls. 203 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: As a hitter, when you get your pitch at the 204 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: big league level, you're gonna probably get one, maybe two 205 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: against a lesser pitcher an at bat to put him play, 206 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: and then you got to fight. He's filing his pitch 207 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: off right now. And I don't want to say he's 208 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: in between, but he kind of is. And what is 209 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: in between me and it means you're laid on the 210 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: fastball and you're early on the off speed and you're 211 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: just like you're just not on time. And I think 212 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: that's his big problem right now. So he's got to 213 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: put the ball and play more. 214 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder a little bit. And look, he's a 215 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: big league player. I know he can handle playing both sides. 216 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: But Elliott has put so much emphasis on his defense, 217 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: which is fantastic, and he has been really very solid 218 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: out there rough rough last year. I don't think he's 219 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: dropping the ball when it comes to preparation for his 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: at bats at all. He is doing all the work. 221 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: But you do wonder a little bit, like, you know, 222 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: his priority has been defense. Maybe that's you know, sometimes 223 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: guys take bad at bats to the field with them. 224 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: He's definitely not doing that. But I just wonder, I 225 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: don't know, maybe not am I thinking too much. The 226 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: defense has been fantastic, we just need to see a 227 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: little bit more offense here in a little more power. 228 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I love Elliott, I mean I talk to him every day. 229 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: He's just such an authentic, sincere human, being the nicest 230 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: guy maybe on the whole team. But how's that WBC 231 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: outfield doing offensively right now? I mean, when you think 232 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: about we talk about how it affects the pitchers, and 233 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: we've seen Jose Bouteau with the blood clot some other guys. 234 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: But all three of those guys left for the WBC, 235 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: and maybe you don't get as many at bats as 236 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: you would have gotten. Scott still going over to minor 237 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: league camp. Sometimes you go to minor league camp, you 238 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: lead off and you get nine at bats in a day. 239 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: So Jung Hu for Korea, Harrison, Bader, and then Elliott 240 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: all left and they're all off to a slow start. 241 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: All three good players. Bader's sitting the ball better, he 242 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: hasn't had anything to show for it. All three really 243 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: good players. Elliott's an All star, Jung hou Lee, I 244 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: think giants have a lot of Giants fans have a 245 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: lot of concern about John Hoolee right now. But he 246 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: hit the ball hard last night, hit the ball har 247 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: last night. So all those three guys maybe didn't get 248 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: the travel and not the at bats. Maybe that's why 249 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: they're a little bit behind right now. 250 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent point. And it's essentially a 251 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: new coaching staff too, and you're missing a lot of 252 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 2: time with the coaching staff during the spring too. When 253 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: you're gone the WBC, so I think all of that 254 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: comes into play. Devers obviously missed a lot of time 255 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: during the spring with that hammy, and he's just now 256 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: back in the field. I know he feels a lot 257 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: more comfortable at the plate, he says, when he's in 258 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: the field, I suspect he's going to start really heating 259 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: up here. This road trip is kind of tailor made, 260 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: I think for him to get going so and I 261 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: never worried. You know, fans like to always pile on 262 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: and look, this is when I say fans, I mean, 263 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: I don't mean to generalize. Some fans like to pile 264 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: on the biggest contract guys, et cetera. And look, when 265 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: you're hitting in the cleanup spot or around there, you 266 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: are going to come in for a little bit of 267 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: extra criticism, I think when you're not swinging the bat. Well. 268 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: But he's not a guy I ever worry about Jung 269 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Hu Lee. I'm a little worried about. I feel like 270 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: at this point we need to have seen a little 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: more consistency. I've been preaching this whole it's early, early 272 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: early thing more than probably anybody else, and getting ripped 273 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: for it in places, and it is early, but we 274 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: just you know, it's been a while now. It feels 275 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: like we've been waiting for Junghu to show more offensively 276 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: and he hasn't. He has played better, like especially last 277 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: year when he gets more regular time off, and I 278 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: would like to see him maybe get a little bit 279 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: more time off, get Jared Oliver out there, a little 280 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: bit more. Christian cost can play out there. 281 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: You know. 282 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Jerrar we saw yesterday, so I don't know, he's the one. 283 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to go in a funk everybody, because 284 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: that's not the case. There are guys that are starting 285 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: to heat up, but Jung Who and Elliott right now 286 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: are the two guys for me that I'm keeping an 287 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: eye on. 288 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, John Who had a good appat off the bench 289 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: last night, and that's not easy. He had a fly 290 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: ball at the deep center field, got a it was 291 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: a sackfly, but he got the runner over from second 292 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: base with one out, so he got both jobs done 293 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: with one at bat. So maybe that gets them going. 294 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I'm with you, Jared, all of them. Man. 295 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: I met him well, I met him in spring training, 296 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: but I talked to him at length yesterday before his 297 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: first start as a giant. He was so fired up. 298 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: He was maybe a little too fired up last night. 299 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: He did get the bunt down, then he got picked 300 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: off a first. I'm like, oh no, I'm really rooting 301 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: for this kid because he's a good player. But we 302 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: were talking about like how hard it is when you 303 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: haven't played to go out and compete at the highest level. 304 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Then he faces the a lifter, a lister in Christopher 305 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Sanchez yesterday. But I left. I told them one thing, 306 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I said, just do one thing to help your ball 307 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: club win tonight. Don't try to get five hits. And 308 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: so it didn't go his way last night, but hopefully 309 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: he gets he gets another chance, because I'm a big fan. 310 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: All right. What else were we talking about today? 311 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know what they We've talked a lot 312 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: about the fact that Tony Vitel wasn't mixing things up 313 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: a lot, and yesterday we did see that. I don't 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: know how much impact that has. All of it gets 315 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: to the start, as we just mentioned, you know, maybe 316 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: a few other little moves here and there. Maybe at 317 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: some point and I kind of, you know, I took 318 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: a took a look around at the what's happening at 319 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: the upper levels of the miners. Victor Barracoto is somebody 320 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: who potentially to keep an eye on. I think he's 321 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: somebody they would consider if they have a need or 322 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: if they want to get you know, maybe a little 323 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: bit more of a shakeup going if there, if something 324 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: happens Bryce Eldridge, I keep hearing, as you know, the 325 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: second he really gets going, I think he's back up. 326 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: I think they're just waiting for him to really get hot, 327 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: start hitting the ball hard more than anything. So those 328 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: are things look like, especially if things kind of go 329 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: wrong here in the next few days, I would definitely 330 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: keep an eye on something like that. What do you 331 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: think about potentially making a move dipping down to Sacramento? 332 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what is is Thursday, the waiver day 333 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. I think that Thursday is an 334 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: off day. It isn't. I'm not sure what Thursday is, 335 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: but I was told that Thursday, I mean, obviously an 336 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: off day in Baltimore. Maybe you shake up the roster 337 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think there's still issues in the bullpen, 338 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: even though they won six to nothing last night. So 339 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, trying to say this the right way, 340 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Who goes down or who gets DFA 341 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. That's not for me to say, but I 342 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: think there needs to be some tweaks in the bullpen, 343 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: whether it's getting somebody from outside the organization, whether it's 344 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: somebody within the organization. But you know, this is a 345 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: this is a dude league, not a try league, as 346 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: I always say. So there's there's questions, like even last 347 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: night it was a six to nothing win, but then 348 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: Robbie Ray, who pitched a manly man's game and it 349 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: was old school baseball. I'm coming right at you, grunting 350 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: the whole time. I mean, that was like, you know, 351 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: out of the wild West. He was amazing last night. 352 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: And then when the bullpen came in, I think we 353 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: all have our doubts, like is Ryan Walker gonna you know, 354 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: he threw one to the backstop and I'm like, oh, 355 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: he hit Luciel, but he you know, he just he 356 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: figured it out. And then and then Keaton Winn came in. 357 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: But I still think I still think you tweak some 358 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: things down there. 359 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the bullpen is you know this at least I 360 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: feel comfortable talking about because all spring that was the focus, 361 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: Like the bullpen, their concerns are a lot of unknowns, 362 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: and then you know, at the start of the season, 363 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: the bullpen was kind of the one area where we're like, oh, 364 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: they actually seem okay. I look. Brian Brooky is though, 365 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: the one who has struggled the most. The first two 366 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: times out when he gave up home runs, it was 367 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: to right handers. We've discussed this. His splitzer really extreme. 368 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he would have been great before the three 369 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: batter minimum rule. He's a left on left specialist, absolutely, 370 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: so you pitch around the right handers. Now he comes 371 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 2: in to face a very specific part of the Phillies 372 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: lineup the other day. It was planned out well in advance. 373 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: He knew what he was going and then he starts 374 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: it with a walk. Now is that enough to say 375 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: you got to get rid of this guy. Yeah, you 376 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: got to get rid of this guy. And then he 377 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: gives up, you know, a single to Harper, who's he's 378 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: had great numbers against. That's one of the reasons he 379 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: was in there. Yeah, but a four pitch walked to 380 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: Schwoerber and then it hit and then you got to 381 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: face the right hander. Not the way things were drawn up. 382 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: What I will say about Ryan Brookie is he was 383 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: sitting there FP he would have loved him as a teammate. 384 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 2: He sat there and waited for us as we were 385 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: waiting for Adrian Hauser, and eventually, as we you know, 386 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: the wait became longer. I was like, let's go. This 387 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: guy is sitting and waiting to talk to us, so 388 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: we went over. He stood up, He answered every question, 389 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: He took it all on himself, all the blame, the 390 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: stuff you want to see. I would think as a 391 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: teammate from a reliever who's had a tough day, and 392 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: he was fantastic. So a very stand up guy. I 393 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: like that. I asked afterwards, why Brookie rather than Gage. 394 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: He'd also been up at one point, and I think 395 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Andy Baggerley a couple of questions later sort of reiterated 396 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: we didn't really get a question until an answer until 397 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: the end when Tony checked in with some of the 398 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: pitching coaches I think and said, well, BAROCKI was planned 399 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: for there in sort of a mid inning situation for 400 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: that little stretch of the lineup. Engage was going to 401 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: get an inning a full inning later. Totally makes sense, 402 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: but this brings up a different question for me and 403 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: I mentioned this in our chronicle Giants newsletter, the Splash 404 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: newsletter Everything Splash, We love Splashing that it's not unusual 405 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: to have a sort of a pre planned bullpen plan. 406 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 2: Who's going to face who when? If this situation and 407 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: everybody kind of knows, uh, and that is that does 408 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: come from the pitching coaches in this case. I think 409 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: this is a couple of times now Tony's indicated he's 410 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: really going basically with what the pitching coaches are determining pregame. 411 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: That's also fine. This is not unusual. Everything I'm talking about, 412 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: is it? But you know, to the point where where 413 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: I think that there could be questions like why isn't 414 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: he actually making the pitching changes. He like decisions himself. 415 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: I think he certainly could weigh in if he had 416 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: a strong opinion on something, But this is a guy 417 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: who has not managed a big league bullpen. It's so different. 418 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: It's the biggest difference with the college game, and I 419 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: think he's very much going with what the pitching coaches 420 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: are drawing up beforehand. Again, totally fine, just a little 421 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: bit unusual, but for a new guy new to the league, 422 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: I've got no problem with it. Just you don't hear 423 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: that very often postgame? What do you think about that? 424 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: Well, it's a process for any manager that hasn't managed 425 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: at this level, whether you're from college or the minor leagues, 426 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: or you know, being in that lead seat. He's figuring 427 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: out who he can trust right now in what situation, 428 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: and then he's gonna he's gonna figure that out. I 429 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: can trust this guy. I can't trust this guy. I 430 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: can trust this guy. This is this guy's role. I 431 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: always felt that with good team, the b bullpen, the 432 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: behind bullpen was more important than the A bullpen, because 433 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: if we're going to come back as an offense and 434 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: win the game because we're down by two, you got 435 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: to keep it down by two so there's a chance. 436 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: So every winning team I've been around, whether it was 437 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: the Giants before I went to DC or the teams 438 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: in DC, everyone talks about the core four in those championships, 439 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: and we always think of, you know, saving a lead, 440 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: But how you win a lot of games is saving 441 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: a deficit and keeping them right where they're at and 442 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: giving the offense a chance to win the game at seven, 443 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: eight or nine or eight to nine. There's nothing worse 444 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: than being down by two and the bullpen comes in 445 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: and now you're down by four or you're down by five, 446 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: and that just deflates the whole dugout. So if you're 447 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: going to be a team that's successful in the plan 448 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: to October, no matter who you are, Giants, whoever, it's 449 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: super important on the behind bullpen to keep the deficit 450 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: right where it's at. And that, to me might be 451 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: a bigger question as the three run leads, say bullpen 452 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: with the Giants, because this isn't an offense as it's 453 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: currently constructed to come back from a four run deficit 454 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: or a five run deficit. But if it's one or 455 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: two and you keep it right there, now you give 456 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: me a chance to win on offense and do some 457 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: things to snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat. 458 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: FP you're the pundit here. You're the guy who does 459 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: the sports talk radio from time to time, which I 460 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: always love. I'm gonna throw some questions at you, and 461 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: some of these are questions that I get pretty often 462 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: on social media. But when it comes to the bullpen, 463 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: A why not hang on to Joey Lucasey? Why Brookie 464 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: over lu Casey? That's question one. 465 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm a big Joey Lucasey fan 466 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: just because he's Italian, but other than but other than that, 467 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean he come in the game on the broadcast 468 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: and every time he came in on KMBR, and hey, Joey, 469 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: throw some strikes. But I missed that guy's and he 470 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: was a fierce competitor. And I don't know Baroki enough 471 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: to make a comment on that, and I'm not gonna 472 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: question they made their decision. I will just say this, 473 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm a Joey lu Casey fan, and I'll always be 474 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: a joy la Casey fan. He was good to me 475 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: and I root for him in those brawls that the 476 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: Angels are getting in right now. So I hope he 477 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: I hope he came out and whacked somebody last night. 478 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 2: I like lu Casey too, local guy, That's why I 479 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: love him, Love the local guys. No problem with Brookie again, 480 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: awesome stand up too. But lu Casey's just seemed like 481 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: a really nice fit last year and kind of bailed 482 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: them out. But you know, especially in July. Okay, my 483 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: next question is should they have gone out and gotten 484 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: an established late innings reliever in the off season, throwing 485 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: a ton of money at say Tyler Rogers type. 486 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Are you saying Tyler Rodgers. 487 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying a Tyler Rogers ish someone of that ilk, 488 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: someone with experienced, someone available with experience. Should they have 489 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: maybe spent a little bit more there? 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: I would have liked Edwin Diaz. I think super cool. Okay, yeah, yeah, 491 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 1: throw that kind of money at him. You never know 492 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: what went on behind closed doors. So maybe they tried 493 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: and we don't know about it. Maybe they had trades 494 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: on the table that didn't work and we don't know 495 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: about it. I was real close with Mike Rizzo back 496 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: in DC, and he used to tell me stories that 497 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: just blew my mind because as a player, you never 498 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait that happened. Wait you had that trade 499 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: on the table and ownership said, no, wait, that's a 500 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: great trade. Yeah, they wouldn't do it. I had this 501 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: guy ready if we were sign up to a three 502 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: year deal. I took the deal the ownership and they're like, no, 503 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: that's too much. We can't we can't sign him for 504 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: that much. And but but we need this guy in 505 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: our bullpen. Nope, nope, sorry, So they what you what 506 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: we want done? What they want done and what actually 507 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: gets done. There's a lot of different layers that go 508 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: into that. So well, well he said, well let's go Zach, 509 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: let's go Buster, let's go Greg. Like, you don't know 510 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: all the different moving parts, whether the team has a deal, 511 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: they pull it back, whether you take it to ownership 512 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, ah, is it really worth that? You know? 513 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: So there's so many parts to this thing that I 514 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: think I just realized being baseball my whole life about 515 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: five years ago. 516 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what it takes too, in especially 517 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: in a free agent situation or in a trade. You know, 518 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: you don't just because you want somebody doesn't mean you're 519 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: the team they want to go to, or if all 520 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: things are equal, maybe they want to be closer to home, 521 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: all of those kind of good things. This is a 522 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: last one, and this probably matters a little bit less 523 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: because Devers is back at first now. 524 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: But you know what to ask, what time is this 525 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: podcast over? Is that the question? 526 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: The last one? FP. We're going to to start doing 527 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 2: these ones in person, so I can just sort of 528 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: if I need to, can you guys see I'm strangling him? 529 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: Dom Smith? Should they have tried to keep Dom Smith 530 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: he was very useful and such a sweet first baseman. 531 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I'm not going to screw up my 532 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: broadcast career on this podcast because that's just never going 533 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: to happen. So if you're sitting here going he's such 534 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: a homer, damn right, I am. I'm not getting fired 535 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: for this thing. But I was on the couch the 536 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: other day just kind of thinking about all the balls 537 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: that have gone past Giant's first baseman, Like, damn, he 538 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: was so good over there, Like he was so goold, 539 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: he was so he was gold glove good over there. 540 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea about Donald Smith as the first 541 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: baseman until I watched him go in the hole and 542 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: do the flip way up in the air and it 543 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: landed perfectly in the pitcher's glove. Sony plays the clutch, 544 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: hits the two strike approach. Huge John Smith fan, and 545 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: he's got some big hits for the Braves so far too. 546 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have loved to have seen him come back. 547 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: I get it, you can't have everybody. It's twenty six 548 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: spam roster. We'll talk about that at some other show, 549 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: because I really think they need to expand rosters in 550 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: the next CBA or come up with something different because 551 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: the benches are too small, but there should be you know, 552 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: a team should be able to keep a guy like that. 553 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: All right, FP, I know you gotta go. Stop whining. 554 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: I gotta put my suitcase in the car, drive to 555 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: the ballpark, don't pick up a prescription for the road trip, 556 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: and I gonna get dressed, and I gotta do this. 557 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: Then I gotta do that. Then I gotta do the 558 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: pregame show today, then I gotta do the post game 559 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: show today. And I'm so happy about it. All let's go, baby, 560 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: it's baseball season. I can't wait. 561 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: I have to fly all day tomorrow to Baltimore and. 562 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Fly on this big league charter today. 563 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: All this heard. 564 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: You're the worst, and we're staying at this really good 565 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: four seasons hotel. It's just so hard. 566 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: I know you haven't. Your life is all right. 567 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening, watching everything all the time. Susan, 568 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: You're great. You always are the comments. Everybody loves Susan. 569 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: She's outstanding. I love when she's on the show. She's 570 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: the best. All right, go Giants. Hopefully they win a 571 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: series or you watch this and they want a series. 572 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Either way like I say on the way out, every 573 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: single time, Swing heart in case you hit it on 574 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: splash Hit Territory.