1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode to nineteen. It's Russell and 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Kayleie Dickerson. Have you guys ever done one together? An 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: interview together? That track was fire You have an interview together? Yeah, 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: only a couple of the like what who interviews you together? 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: The Not did so a print publication, yes, but it 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: was their podcast O. We were their first episode, right 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: and Bristo and I think that's it? How was that? 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't know her, but she lives, she's wonderful, love her, Yeah, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: I hear. I hear good things about her as a person. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: I always have a weird thing with bachelor people because 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: I've met, like most of them I meet are not 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: people I would normally hang out with in her life. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I go, oh, that's why you wanted the Bachelor and 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: and not and not because she I hear she's great. 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: And I'm saying this because I have multiple friends that 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: are like, oh, she's like a fantastic human, right, yeah, 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: you actually is? Yeah, legitimately lover her. Yeah, it's cool 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: than not. When you bring that up, it reminds me 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: that I saw on the Not, which is a wedding website, right, 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: like the Not that you wars was the biggest wedding 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: song for them ever or something like that, or the 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: year or something like extreame music. They put it. They 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: put it. They make like an annual list for their 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: like because you go to the not to like who 25 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: should I use as my photographer? Who should I use 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: make my cake? Or whatever? And they had yours was 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: one of their their like number one playlist wedding first dance, 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, like their communitive list whatever. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Did this song build your new house? Absolutely? Yeah? Are 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: you still getting checks for it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: mean he's like yep, yeah, I mean it's yeah, that 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: was that yours is. It's its own whole story anyway, 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that. We will. Have you played 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: this song at many weddings that you weren't personally connected to, 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: like have people hired you? Because I talk to talking 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: to Dan recent Danna CHANI was like, you know, we 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of weddings, but listen, we'll do 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: something right because they have wedding songs, yeah, like legit 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: yours is one. Speechless Yeah, have you played that any 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: weddings I have? Yeah, I've I've probably done like like hey, 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: like come play our wedding will pay you like three yeah, 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: not not a lot. Does that go through your agent? Yeah? Yeah, 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: But then that's good. Those are good. The privates of 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: anything were so good, fantastic. But then there's that one 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: in a million. We happen to be playing a show 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: in a certain city and there happens to be a 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: wedding and they're like tweeting like crazy, you know what 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean. So we were in like South Carolina, some 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, some town and we played it like 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: four thirty. First dance was at like six thirty, so 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: it was oh yeah, yeah yeah. So we got we 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: got ubers, I brought my guitar, we changed, we tried 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: to find something dressy, got the band. I was like 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: I can't wear jean shorts to a wedding. Yeah, and 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: so we just like anyone know you were coming? Was 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: like one literally to the mother in law, No one, no, 57 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: because we walked in and we were like hey, uh 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: and they the wedding planner. I don't know if they 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: knew who we were at all. Yeah, someone in that 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: vand like incognito was like, where's the wedding planner? And 61 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: like right in and so someone a bit advanced it. Yeah, 62 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean we walked into just enough because I'm telling you, 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: I've done the thing before where I also have gone 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: to a wedding where it's like a big fan, it's 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: like we just love you and you don't tell him 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: you're coming, and you go and have people like I 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: don't know who you are. Yeah, exactly, And it's a 68 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: real humbling experience. That happened once. That happened once in Phoenix. 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: We were staying in a hotel outside of Phoenix, I 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: don't know what, Oh my god, and we heard the rehearsal. 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: She was walking down the aisle to yours, and so 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: we were in the pool like at this hotel and 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: heard the rehearsal and we're like, you gotta do it, 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: you gotta crash. And you walked in the door after 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: the ceremony and they were like, they're like and Rust 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: was like, Hi, I'm wrestled. They were like, I know 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: that feeling. There are two times where that happens to me. 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: That one. It's like that because there's only like a 79 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: small selection people to give me a crap, give a 80 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: crap who I am very small and I'm very loyal 81 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: to them, But most people have no idea, right, I'm 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: just a dork with big glasses. So without the glasses, yes, 83 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: So when you show up somewhere and you're like, I'm 84 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: actually doing this because I know somebody here cares im, 85 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: and then they're like, yeah, we got no idea, bro. 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: The other one is when something like sometimes like people 87 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: on my my management team will call and go, Hey, 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna have dinner at this place. We're gonna call 89 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: and and they'll be like, Hey, we're gonna get a table. 90 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: And I don't do this anymore, but like we get 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: a table for four bibones is in town and they're like, 92 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. And that happens and 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, it's just not worth it 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: to me. It's not worth it. It happens like one 95 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: or two times, and you're like it's I don't do it. 96 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: It's not I'll just go and wait. I'm not special. Um, 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that my my recent have to kay 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Lee stories and we're gonna get all this. By the 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: way she was talking, I have so much preparation I've 100 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: done for this interview and we haven't gotten to it yet. Um. 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: The first one is this is a three or four 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: weeks ago. I was playing the opera at the Rheman 103 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: and you were playing to that night, um, and so 104 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: we were on the same thing together. But I was 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: walking back and if you ever just kind of an 106 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: insight tip, you're gonna go to the operate at the Ryeman, 107 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: you can wait for all the artists to show up 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: behind the Rheman because we all have to go through 109 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: a backdoor. And so and I'm there, I'm just gonna 110 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: do some stand up and I think I don't have 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: a guitar with me or anything, and so I'm going 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: in and there's a lot of people that know that 113 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: and they're just waiting in there. Would take pictures and 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: in a bit there's a there's a lot and it 115 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: starts to be a little bit overwhelming, and all of 116 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like an angel came out of this guy. 117 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll take these pictures. And it was 118 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: Kaylee standing there and she grabs everyone's phone and it's like, okay, 119 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: next next sex sex And this ushered me right into 120 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: the door, and I was like, thank you very much. 121 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: And I left that experiencing like did he know that 122 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: was me? Or does he think I was a fan? 123 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Like I know, I knew exactly who it was. You know, 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. But I was like, I left that 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: experience of being like he might have thought I was 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: one of the people just waiting for him. I did not. 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: And then we saw each other again upstairs, as we did. 128 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: But and then my second one is and I didn't 129 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: say anything about this on the radio, but I'm gonna say, 130 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: but maybe I didn't know. Okay, So I saw at 131 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: the airport. I don't know where. I don't know. No, No, 132 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: we weren't at the airport. We were events. I live 133 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: an airport, so okay, same, but I remember this, Um 134 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: we we're at charity event. Did she tell you this? 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: I love it? And so I say, hey, you know 136 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: what's because I feel like I know Kaylie better than 137 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: you Russell at times, like we've spoken more than than 138 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: you and I have. And we're talking at this event 139 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, I was gonna go. Russell's 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: playing a radio show and I was complaining about radio 141 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: shows in your honor, and I was like, I can't 142 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: you know what They barely get paid. It's like Tuesday night, 143 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling I'm feeling bad for you and 144 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, it's not so bad, and um, she 145 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: goes well, and I was gonna thinking about going. But 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: what I do is I reserved the Southwest because if 147 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: you fly, because my idea is my companion, right Mike 148 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: on Southwest, I can take him. Anytime I fly Southwest, 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: I can put myke on for free. She's yours. She goes, 150 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: you know. So I used the pass and I walked 151 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: all the way to the gate with him and then 152 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: I just don't go. It's all over again. I was like, yeah, 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: I was like the seat if the plane was sold out. 154 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: So I laughed and then I got and I thought 155 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: about telling that story on the show, but I didn't. 156 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: I felt like it was a good private moment. And 157 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: then then I heard and then I don't know again, 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: did you I've posted it? Because that what it was. 159 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: I felt like, I thought when I heard my name, 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's about to call me out 161 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and say that I stole the seat on Southwest and 162 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: something in me, But you didn't mind me that you 163 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: were okay they're talking about I'm like, if Southwest is 164 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: going to give me that, but not let me. This 165 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: is my beef with with the companion backs, which you 166 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: may feel with me. Which we're grateful Southwest that we 167 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: get to fly well for we fly a lot giving 168 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: it to us for charity. Thing is they don't let 169 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: you board together. You're like Z three yes, and I 170 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: have no status because he's like a plus preferred plus 171 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: plus plus, so are you and your boarding past. I'm 172 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: sure when you board is like B fifty two or 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: like it's at the way. I'm like, we're going to 174 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: sit together if we're companion pass, just let us sit together. 175 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: They won't do it. I don't know why did you 176 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: have to not write article about this, because this would 177 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: this would be good because we need you guys. What's 178 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: interesting to me is you guys work together too. You 179 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: don't because and I didn't know that Kelly was a 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: singer because I was talking to her. She was like, 181 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: you know, I did vocals and because she just went 182 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: to school together. Wait, let's start from the very beginning. 183 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: You guys met in school. Yeah, and like a singing class. Yeah, 184 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: we have the same vocal coach, voice teacher, and like 185 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: you have these required classes where it's legitimately you sit 186 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: in the class room, you have someone play guitar or 187 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: piano for you, you stand in front of the class 188 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: and sing. That's terrifying. That's why I don't sing anymore. 189 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: But I mean for me, that's lit. That's radio tour, right, 190 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, So that like prepped me for these like 191 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: super awkward, sterile, fluorescent light conference rooms at exactly and 192 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: looking like they could care less to be there. So 193 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: that's you know, that prepped me. But that that's where 194 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: we met. And we had the same vocal teacher. And 195 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: I remember who sing first. I remember hearing him sing 196 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: first and he's saying it was in our classical class 197 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: and you're saying, oh yeah, And they made me sing 198 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: low yeah, like you saying a church on the Cumberland Road. 199 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: I like the old yeah, the old like and I 200 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: was like, dang, that guy can sing. And that's the 201 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: first time I remember. Because we didn't like ever meet really. 202 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Everyone's always like, so how do you guys meet, and 203 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: we're like, we don't know. We were like all friends 204 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: of friends. If she was dating somebody, I was dating somebody, 205 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: and it's just like all interwoven, slowly merging. Yeah, And 206 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: then we made out at a graduation party after we'd 207 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: broken up with Let's rewind for a second. You hear 208 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: him sing yeah, and do you hear her sing like 209 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: the same? Yeah, who at that stage was the better singer. 210 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: It's always been him in classical though like slash like 211 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: musical theater, but that transitions into like this little indie 212 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: vibe that she's got. It's like incredible, it's so good. 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: But you didn't answer the question what he Okay, I 214 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: was better at classical. He was better at um commercial, 215 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: which is like his life, which is a good thing 216 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: that I'm like not going to go on radio to classical. 217 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to say her that's the right answer, even 218 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: if we can't, you can't prove it exactly, just she is. 219 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: And so you guys, you're in this class and you 220 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: have friends that mutual friends. You guys are hanging out, 221 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: and was it like even though you're dating other people, 222 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll just ask you where you like. Man, she's cute. 223 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't have a girlfriend, but she's cute. Yeah, well 224 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: I was dicky, he didn't really have a girlfriend. Yeah, 225 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: it was like, but I would like ask her for advice, 226 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: like dating advice. But then like we would start hanging 227 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: out more. We'd go to like the flea market. We'd 228 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: always get coffee or whatever while you were dating another girl. No, 229 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: not really. It had kind of a asked her they 230 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: were dating. If you asked him, they weren't. It was 231 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of one of those they weren't. They were not serious. 232 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: They mean they were not to convince me, I believe it, 233 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm like trying to make sure he doesn't sound like, Also, 234 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: you're in college doing dumb, young, darky things. But really, 235 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: what he I mean, you start hanging out. I wasn't 236 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: a serious relationship. So you were hanging out with him 237 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: while you're had a serious boyfriend. Okay, so you both 238 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: kind of single then, yeah, but we were you vibe 239 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: in at all. It's so long ago, honestly, and like 240 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: like we were like ten years so let's go back 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: in time. So back in time, back in time, it 242 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: was like friends of friends. Like it was just like 243 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: a group like that's Belmont. It's such a small, like 244 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: tight knit group. There was like twenty people in our 245 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: graduating class. So it was and so like we all 246 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: all would hang out and then like we would just 247 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: start going again. Like I remember when the first time 248 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I was like going to the flea market and I 249 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: would like, ask you about another girl? Yeah, but then 250 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: like that bring us closer, you know what I mean? 251 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: I need to ask other girls about other girls, but 252 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: it really just brings them I don't know, No, Yeah, 253 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: he would be like should I do this? I was like, well, 254 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: do you miss her? Do you like her? And he'd 255 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: be like, I don't know if I like her. I'm like, well, 256 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: did you think about her when you were like on 257 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving break? And you'd be like, I mean a little. 258 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think you like her that much. 259 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how long have you two been together 260 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: or not married, but together period ten years minus one month. 261 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: We broke up after that, okay minus one month? What 262 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: happened with that month? I was an idiot? He was 263 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: an idiot. I this is this is a this is 264 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: for real. I had just we graduated already, and I 265 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: had just signed like my pub deal, and like it 266 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: was about to happen for Russell pers you know what 267 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean. It was in like all these promises were 268 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: made from that deal and like you're gonna get a 269 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: record deal. You're gonna be you know, you're gonna be 270 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: on radio. You gonna be on tour, You're gonna be gone, 271 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: You're gonna be going going, And I was like, I 272 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: don't really have time for a relationship, like I need 273 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: to just kind of and we don't e been dating 274 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: for a year. Oh that's a long time. That's not 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: only yeah for me, like yeah, and and so I 276 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: mean that was that was my mindset, was like it's 277 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: about to happen for me. I need to be single. 278 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: But like twenty two year, we were twenty I was 279 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: twenty two. There's no judgment triangle here. I'm here. I'm 280 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: just asking questions. And so that was. That was one 281 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: month and I remember calling her on Thanksgiving Day and 282 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I was just like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you 283 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: have to waity back up what he was like. He 284 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: was like, we'll be friends, and I was like, no, 285 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: we won't. And you go ahead and do what you do. 286 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to move on. You move on and you're like, 287 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: but you're my best friend. And I was like, well 288 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: you're mine, and but we're not doing this like both thing, 289 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: and so I moved on. He moved on, and then 290 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: I got a call on Thanksgiving and he was like, 291 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: I just want you know, I'm thankful for you. And 292 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, well, like I needed And when 293 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I say this, it is the smallest. It's not even 294 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: like I needed to live the rock star road life. 295 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: You know. I literally made out with one girl and 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: that was I was just like, no, this isn't for me, 297 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: this whole this is a this is not a good 298 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: this is not fulfilling, you know what I mean. Like, 299 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: literally I made out with one girl and I was like, yeah, okay, 300 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: this is I gotta call Kaylee. That whole deal from 301 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: back then, that pup deal didn't turn into all the 302 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: things we thought it was going to. Career wise, No, 303 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: you still would same publish company. Also, you're out of 304 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: all of that. Yeah, that was that. The first I 305 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: signed in two thousand eleven, that was a two year 306 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: deal got dropped after two years. Um, and then that 307 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: was two thousand thirteen. And I didn't even write Yours 308 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: until two thousand fourteen. And then I didn't sign a 309 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: deal till you have made that song and it's after 310 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: two years. Huh. Yeah, well, what's kind of the genesis 311 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: of you writing that song? And it took a second 312 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: for it to kind of happen. Yeah, So you're right, Like, 313 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: just tell me about that. So the overall picture is 314 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: January twenty something is when we wrote it, and then 315 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: January twenty something, literally almost to the day, four years later, 316 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: four years is when it went number one. So four 317 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: years in between that was. I had one offer for 318 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: a publishing deal. We took it, we had to, We 319 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: had no just got married. I got dropped the week 320 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: we got back from our honeymoon. So that was a 321 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: great We made twelve th dollars that you yea combined. Yeah, 322 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: So that was that was year one of marriage. And 323 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: then Soten we wrote it, and I mean we just 324 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: we went all around town. Everybody said no, all the majors, 325 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: all the indies, every I mean literally, were you were 326 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: you chasing an artist deal with that song? Are you 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: also pitching the song as well? So you want you 328 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: wrote it? You're like, it's mine on this hill? Yeah, 329 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: the whole, the whole, this whole time, I was like, 330 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm an artist writer, you know, like that was that 331 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: was what I wanted to do, and so uh yeah, 332 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: I was just like I we obviously didn't take no 333 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: for an answer, but I just put everything on this 334 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: one song. I was like I know, I know that, 335 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I know that, I know this is a hit. And 336 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: and it took i mean another two years from writing 337 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: it too to go to labels and showcases and do 338 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: the whole dance. And it wasn't until uh thirty Tigers 339 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: slash now Triple Tigers. They've just started a whole brand 340 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: new label. And it was it was Norbert Nicks who 341 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: had just got to let go from Sony and like 342 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Herring who just gotta let go from Warner. It's 343 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: all these guys who kind of, you know, related to this, 344 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: this like being rejected kind of mentality, like a little 345 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: chip on your shoulder a little bit, and un it 346 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: just all came together with this tiny little label. I 347 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: was the only artist on there and they had me 348 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: one song and that was that was what really ignited. 349 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: I mean I missed the whole video part, but an 350 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: industry wise, industry wise, that that was what what really 351 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: like to took it. You know, at what point because 352 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: the label was a small independent label, so it's it's 353 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: difficult because they don't have the promotion infrastructure right for 354 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: for an independent that they just don't have arms and 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: fangs everywhere. So but at what point though, did you 356 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: realize we actually have a shot with this thing, Like 357 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: this thing could actually be a massive hit, Like what 358 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: was it a number on the chart? Yeah? Like were 359 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: you hearing about research? Because it was also a valid 360 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: and oh my dear, I don't play. But then it 361 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: started jumping like it was only in the twenties for 362 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: like three weeks, four weeks something like that. It was 363 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: like jump, two spots, jump, three spots jump, and then 364 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: it was in the teens and we were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 365 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: what was happening? Did you do this song on any 366 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: any TV? On any anything on our favorite? Did you 367 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: do the Bachelor? It seems like The Bachelor? Okay, I 368 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: don't know this, but it seems like this this would 369 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: be that kind of song, big pop from that show. 370 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely it was a couple, Rachel and Dean. Rachel. She 371 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: was she was like two Bacheloretta. Maybe Dean was Geanie Babies. 372 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: Do you know Dean Bachelor in Paradise? He came back. 373 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I've never seen must. I'm not the guy to talking 374 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: about me, but but I don't know Rachel. But it 375 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: was great. Okay, so he's an attorney, she's smart, she's 376 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: really cool. You play this on the show and it 377 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: was ever on radio, I'm pretty sure. Or no, No, 378 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: it was on radio and it jumped. It was so 379 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: hard after it jumped like ten spots on airplay and 380 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: top top of the iTunes charts, you know, just like 381 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: craziness that was. That was a big jump. When you 382 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: played that song on the show, you did it over 383 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: and over again. Yeah was Award two is are you 384 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: just playing with them? Dai? What was the scene? Was 385 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: that awkward? Uh? Well, they were late first of all. 386 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: So it all started where we never had a tour 387 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: bus before, but we got to like ride down in 388 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: a tour bus and then to South Carolina, Carolina, um, 389 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: and then so we're waiting, We're waiting, We're waiting. I 390 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: think Chris Harrison was felt bad. So he comes on 391 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: our bus and you know, we have a we raised 392 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: a toast, we have to have a drink, and we're 393 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: just like hanging out with Chris Harrison on our bus, 394 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: which for us at the time, we were like, I 395 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: was freaking out. He was there for like two hours 396 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: and we shared we had knob right now and I 397 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: had him signed the bottle and I have it in 398 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: my house, like, I mean, like I'm a fan and 399 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: he led us. She every Monday like her and her 400 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: gal pals get together and watch. He's also really nice. 401 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: He's so nice and let us. He let us come 402 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: to after the final rows. He was like, let you 403 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: take us? Do you want? I was like, it's twelve 404 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: too many and he was like, no, will make it happen. 405 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: We I mean me and all my friends filed in, 406 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Like it was so fun. It was really cool to 407 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: like make it a real life experience and not so 408 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: like this is the show. That's cool that you got 409 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: to watch him play on the show and you got 410 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: to hate because you're a fan. When you're a fan 411 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: of something, it's so much cool that when it actually 412 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: works out in a way that makes you still feel good. Yeah, 413 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: and it was fun, like it was. I think the 414 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: whole thing is a crazy phenomenon. And do I think 415 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: it's the best way to find someone? No? Am I 416 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: highly entertained by drama that has nothing to do with 417 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: my own life. Yes, I love it. I love it. 418 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: They are they dancing is a dancing, It's like a 419 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: slow dance makeout And how many times do you think 420 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: you have to play that song with them dancing. Yeah, 421 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: it was like two or three. But they have to 422 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: make out every time on cue. No, no, no, they 423 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 1: just I mean they made out, but they want too. 424 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't like make out at this. It wasn't choreograph. 425 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: You know. Who I became friends with from the Bachelor 426 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: was again the episodes A good maybe Bachelor was Joe 427 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: Grocer Store Joe. Yeah, I don't know personally, though he 428 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: did dance. He's the nicest guy. Heck, yeah, he seems 429 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: like it. And Kindle is engaged. I don't know. I 430 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: don't know if they're engaged either, but I'm telling you 431 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: that is as reel of a relationship. They are the 432 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: greatest for each other. They're both so nice. So yeah, there. 433 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: His story is wild because he went on and I 434 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: would add him and I were both not considered to 435 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: be the best danswer, so we were bonding over that. 436 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: And he went on that show and he was only 437 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: only for an episode and he get kicked off almost 438 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: immediately and the internet blew up. The Internet blew up. Yeah, 439 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: and he was like the Internet was pissed. Yes. Then 440 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: he got bring Back, Bring Back Grocery Store. Check like 441 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: he's good looking and he seems super nice, and so 442 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: he ends up going back to Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, 443 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: and that's where he ends up meeting don't know, but 444 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: he was like he couldn't believe it. He was like, 445 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want yo, it was embarrassed, and my friends 446 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: are gonna be kicked off. We at a party he 447 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: goes then then my social media started to blow up. 448 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: And but he was as much as I give the 449 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: batch or people crap like it earlier, I've but out 450 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: with a couple of people from that show. Um went 451 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: out with a people. Yeah, like went out people off 452 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: Mike and I've been around some of the people. You know, 453 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: it was really weird. Who wasn't mean or nice? But 454 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: who's the guy that thinks he's a model? Jordan Kimbell. 455 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: I had lunch with that guy. He's I didn't I 456 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: have no feeling like I didn't spend enough time with 457 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: them to like him or dislike him. He's a lot though, 458 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: and he's real. Yeah, just what you see on the 459 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: show is like, my friends were like, tell me if 460 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: this guy is real, And I'm like, why I don't 461 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: watch the show. And I sat with him and I 462 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what you say on the show, 463 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: but that's real. Whatever you see, he's exactly like that 464 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: in person. He's like on twelve just it's like, you know, 465 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: I got for model and deals, got to get down 466 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: due Wilhelmina Models, and I'm just like I can tell 467 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: he was kidding or not. If there's a year behind you. 468 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: At dinner, You're like, I need to put myself looking 469 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: into your allies. He'll never look at me this hole. 470 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: And again, I liked him just fine. It was just 471 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know what his vibe was. My friends were like, 472 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: tell me, what if he's really liked that? Is that him? 473 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Or Robbie? Oh no, that's another But you're just like casual, 474 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: Yeah she didn't watch football, Yeah, steak and stuff. You know. 475 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 1: So you go on this show and it pops for 476 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: you. You You come back to life and it's like, wow, 477 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: we gotta so obviously your team has a story too, 478 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: like one on the one on The Bachelor. Look how 479 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: song on this that's and at that moment when you 480 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: literally you have nothing, when you have this one little spark, 481 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: that is what you just like. Nurture and nurture and 482 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: nurture and try to try to get that into try 483 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: to get a little flame, try to get a little 484 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: bigger flame. I mean it's it's literally, man. We we 485 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: flew around the country and then would drive in Honda 486 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Civics and just like go station to station and like 487 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: tell this little story of you know we had we 488 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: had some downloads, we had some streams, we you know, 489 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: we It was literally this tiny little flame that you 490 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: have to curate and just like keep it, like you 491 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: don't don't say no, like we're not going to stop. 492 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: One of the problems my wife and I have is 493 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: always what are we gonna cook for dinner? Because we 494 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: cooked the same things over and over and over again. 495 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Spaghetti last week, spaghetti this week, spaghetti next week, spaghetti 496 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: wei the week out of that, and we're like, we 497 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: need something new. Were always get in a rut of 498 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: cooking the same things, and then we found it Hello Fresh, 499 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: different items each week delivered right to our front door. 500 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: Cooking made simple. We were like, oh, we were so excited. 501 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: So you go to Hello Fresh dot com and let's 502 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: say you're a vegetarian. 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That's nine free meals with Hello Fresh dot com. 511 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: Go to Hello Fresh dot com slash Bobby cast nine 512 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: and using the code Bobby cast nine. So you're you're 513 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: hustling around, the song is continuing to climb. It hits 514 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: top ten, and now it shifts to well, we're trying 515 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: to get the whole freaking thing now, like we've been 516 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: working this hard this long because it was on the 517 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: chart for a long time. It was the Billboard set 518 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: a record first. Okay, the timeline in itself two thousand 519 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: fourteen when we wrote it, just to even get a 520 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: record deal was one of the longest journey of my life. 521 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Then once we finally hit radio, it is the Billboard's 522 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: longest solo male debut climb to number one. So it 523 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: was just on the chart for a long time for 524 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: nail the chart. Yeah, so you go your top ten? 525 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: Did they give you the talk like they do some artists, 526 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: like it's just honored to be in the top ten, 527 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: like like you know, we made it. Who knows, but 528 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: we got a top ten and we got some momentum 529 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: for the next one. And that's not how I work, dude. 530 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm like faith, I'm like, yes, we're gonna do it. 531 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: I will drive to every radio station again to make 532 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: sure this goes all the way. I don't care, I'll 533 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: do it. Oh yeah, what are you? Three with a 534 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: hard to wing? Okay, so I'm eight with the three 535 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: two to eight with it? You go to two and 536 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: growth hold on, Oh dude, we'll be here all who 537 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: got me on his Dave Heywood, Yes, and Kelly bought 538 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: us all the books. It's a Haywood thing. They've they 539 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: love it. They love the inioground. I had never heard 540 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: of it until Dave came in and spent ten minutes 541 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: ted talk to me about the Indian ground. Yeah. I'm 542 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: an eight with two, so you can only go left 543 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: or no, I go. I picked my own way as 544 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: an eight wood. Yeah, yeah, so I made my own. 545 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: Mine was like the pent whenever they tell you, yeah, 546 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: so mine whatever that you're a crazy scenario. That means 547 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: you're really healthy because you and eight. If you're truly 548 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: in eight, you go to two and growth. What's to me? 549 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: It's the help of um that's not me. That's my 550 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: lowest one. I'm three, I'm whatever, the perfectionist. What's three 551 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: my When you look up three, it's not it's the achiever, 552 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: that's what I am. And three? Okay, those were your 553 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: highest two. I don't think that I showed up as 554 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: the two. They were like, there's only one number. I 555 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: don't think that's true. Because you find people in the 556 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: world and you're like, I believe you, in you, I'm 557 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: going to help you. But I'm just telling you. The 558 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: score told me the two didn't even register. You will 559 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: not be giving yourself enough credit because every question was 560 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: like who do you believe? And I was like me, 561 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: who else do you believe in? Yeah? There you go? Yeah, 562 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: so you go, and I will I will concur with that. 563 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, because you find all these artists and you're like, 564 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a platform, I'm gonna help you. 565 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: Be hurt you being really healthy. It's a challenger. Yeah, 566 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: eight goes to two in growth in five. So when 567 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: you're stressed out, you investigate things, right, you google stuff. 568 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing that right now with you guys. Actually, 569 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm the eight. Okay, I'm an eight and you're an eight. 570 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a three. So you can only go left 571 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: or right in your wings. So like you can lean 572 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: towards what you can clean, you can lean towards seven 573 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: and an optimist, or you can lean towards mediator. I'm 574 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: guessing you lean towards seven. If neither one of those neither, 575 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: I just live. I built walls around the eight, so 576 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm a three achiever, but and I leaned towards two, 577 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: which is the helper supportive advisors that one says, Oh, 578 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, there is that has never been a more 579 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: accurate description. My gosh. Yeah. Well, I'm all I know 580 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: is I saw the scores and I was like eight, 581 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: and yeah, make that makes total sense. And that's the 582 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: thing that's the human at Yeah, it's yeah, not me 583 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: straight up? Seven? Are you? You're really optimistic? Optimistic? Enthusiastic? Wow, 584 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: look at you. Every day is the best day of 585 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: his whole life. Literally, Wow, I don't. I mean that's 586 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean good for you. I struggle with that. Yeah, 587 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: he's yeah, I don't it's I don't understand. Is that 588 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: like I can get myself there, which I often do, 589 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: like I can find reasons, But are you? Is it 590 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: just a natural part of you where you just feel 591 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: it like that is you? Pretty much like I. I 592 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: wake up and I'm like, today is going to be 593 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,239 Speaker 1: breaking awesome, and he's a babe, get up, look up, 594 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: look outside, then let's go. Let's go it like he's 595 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: like a kid on Christmas, like every day. It's insane 596 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: to me and sometimes liked, there's one person in my life, 597 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: it's it's our photographer videographer who out sevens me and 598 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: he is actually Buddy the Olfa. It's yeah, it's it's crazy. Wow. Wow, 599 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a good thing to know about. I 600 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: don't know that. I wake up and I'm the opposite. 601 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe it's three o'clock in the 602 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: freaking mornings. I couldn't if he's like that on like 603 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: those infamous radio shows where he's up till eleven midnight 604 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: and Lobby calls five four something like that, and it's 605 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: just like over and over and over days like that. 606 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: He wakes up and he's like but other than that, 607 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: you're pretty much yeah, for the most part, suptimistic. When 608 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: the song's on top ten, though you felt it though, 609 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: you were like, oh babe, we got this. I will 610 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: do I will call every hundred and fifty six stations, yeah, 611 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: to make to see if we can actually take this 612 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: all the way. And so is it a slow week 613 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: week methodical climber? Does it kind of hit that top ten? 614 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Pretty good? It was pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't. It 615 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: wasn't like T sevens all the way up and we 616 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: got two weeks on Billboard and and so yeah, it's 617 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: just like it's shot up, and it was just it 618 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: was what do you do when you What were you 619 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: doing the night it hit one? So the Sunday that 620 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: it actually flips and after West Coast comes in and 621 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: it's you're done, Um, you're now officially number one. What 622 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: were you guys? What were you doing? We were at 623 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: the house. I remember, like everybody I had like all 624 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: these interviews. All of a sudden, it was like Billboard 625 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: they wanted to do a whole like number one interview, 626 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: and like because the debut number one is pretty crazy, 627 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: and and so yeah, they were. I was on the 628 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: phone with them, I was on the phone with management, 629 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: and and just like it was cool that we were 630 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: actually home to be in the house line on our 631 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: little porch, because like we we didn't want to take 632 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: that for granted. This entire climb, like we had a 633 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: we had a top forty party legitimately with the songwriters, 634 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 1: Like they came up, they came over, and um, we 635 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: had a top forty party. Every every ten ten spots. 636 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: We would just take a moment and be like, you know, 637 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: if this is as high as it goes, raise a 638 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: toast to this. And it's been awesome. So it hits one, 639 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: and now we're gonna rewind a bit though, because the 640 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: video was a big part of this song too. In 641 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: the video, if I'm remembering right, I'm just gonna go 642 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: from memory, you were asleep? Wait as a proposal? Hold 643 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: on a second, let me get this right. Did you 644 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: propose in the video? Was a part of the video, 645 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: hold on? Getting my stories mixed up? Hold on? Are 646 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: you proposed? Were you taking a nap? And he makes 647 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: you up? When we got engaged, and okay, I'm getting 648 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: my stories mixed up? But I want to hear both 649 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: of them. So let's talk about the engagement here. Because 650 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: you're taking a nap, you are going to wake her 651 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: up and do a little song A little diddy. Yeah, okay, 652 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: and what was happening there? So she I mean, looking back, 653 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: I could have written a way more elaborate song, but 654 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: now it is what it is. It was like three lines. Um, 655 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: it's not even about the song. Compulsive though. He was like, 656 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: you decided on like a Thursday. You're like, I'm going 657 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: to propose botter Ring asked my parents. It was Sunday, 658 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: like you know it was coming at all. We looked 659 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: at a ring, but I still was like it's gonna 660 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: be a while. I was like, if this is going 661 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: to be a surprise, if it's gonna be surprised, I 662 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: gotta do this now. And so yeah, it was like 663 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: a Sunday after church. She was taking a nap and 664 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: I was obviously so nervous. I was like trying to 665 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: come up with this little just a little proposal diddy, 666 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: and I was like, she woke up and I was like, hey, 667 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: can we do this little like YouTube? I just want 668 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: to kind of make a video to put out and 669 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, just for of the fans, my four fans 670 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: at the time, and you know, play this little acoustic 671 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: jam and you know, just riding that avenue of of 672 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: trying to convince her to get her camera out put 673 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: this wide angle lens on, and she's like, no, well, like, 674 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: why would I do a wide angle like it needs 675 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: to be in on you on your face this crop 676 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: like she knows what she's talking telling me how to 677 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: do my job. I was like so annoyed, and I'm like, 678 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: would you just please this like the vibe I'm seeing 679 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: as an artist, like I just want to see I 680 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: just want a wide angle lens, like you can see 681 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 1: the mess on the counter that I was so annoying, 682 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, great happening, Great start to my proposal. 683 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: She's pissed, and so she's setting she sets up the 684 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: tripod wide angle. Finally convinced her, I'm like, all right, 685 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: go stand over there, let me see how it looks, 686 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: let me see the framing, and I hit record and 687 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: and then I walk over and I just start kind 688 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: of playing that little did he I mean, it's I'm 689 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: literally just like talking, not even looking at Honestly, I 690 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: think it might have been the most mad I've ever 691 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: been at you do you remember that? Did? He? Yeah, 692 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the love of my life, you're 693 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the girl that mad twin. Oh, Kaylee, will you marry me? 694 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: It's just like literally literally like four lines. And so 695 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: when did it? He said, Kaylee, Kaylee Holly love a 696 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: Lot Seymour her nickname, middle name. I have that her 697 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: five older brothers. When the family is that big, you know, 698 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: the the kids, by the by the six kid, are 699 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: you from a big family? He's not a night there. Yeah, 700 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: by the time it gets to the six kid, they've 701 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: got twelve names. They've got you know, the teachers don't 702 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: even know their actual name. And I was the only girl, 703 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: and it was the pink care bear was named the 704 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: Love a Lot and so everything was pink. My whole 705 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: room was pink. The carpet was pink because my parents 706 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: were like, we're having a girl. And so love Lot 707 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: was a nickname, middle name. So when he said Kaylee 708 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Holly love a Lot Seymour, I was like I looked 709 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: up and I was like, wait a second. And that's 710 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: when I was like, oh my gosh, Like I really 711 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: truly had no idea, Like the surprise factor was you 712 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: nailed it? You did? I was pulled it out the ring. 713 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh that's not so let's go to the yours video 714 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: you shot this for. It was inexpensive video, very about 715 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: less than ten dollars, less than ten almost half, yeah, 716 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: so tell me about that. So again, we had been 717 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: denied and denied and denied, and it just got to 718 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: the point where I was so frustrated but also so hopeful, 719 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, I know that, I know that, 720 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: I know. Like I listened to the radio, I hear 721 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: these songs, maybe way off, but this sounds like a 722 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: hit to me, and I'm going to put everything on 723 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: this song. So all six dollars, I'm gonna put my 724 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: life savings on this song. Honestly, that was our life savings. 725 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 1: And so and so we did, and like she, we didn't. 726 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: We didn't even really have a plan. This was just 727 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be test footage. We're just gonna like hopefully 728 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: find a road that I could just walk down. That's 729 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: all I really had envisioned for for the video. It 730 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: was just like, I'm just gonna walk down this road. 731 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pour my heart out to the camera and 732 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: sing this song. And that's it, Like see what happens? 733 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: I had. I had done music videos and all of 734 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: that through college. So when I stopped loving performing, I 735 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: started doing music videos and photo shoots, and so I 736 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: did his first. I did all of his photo shoots 737 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: maybe except for one and then this one is our 738 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: friend Spencer did those, but other than that, I did 739 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: all of his stuff. And so I was like, you know, 740 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: like because we had actually gone in and it was 741 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: the final no that we were like, Okay, well now 742 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: we have to do this ourselves. No one's going to 743 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: help us. And I was like, I can make a 744 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: music video. I did a music video for Nora Jones, Like, 745 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: let's do it. I was like, let's let's just I 746 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: don't know why we didn't think of this, and and 747 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: so I was like, I'll just do it myself. I 748 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: can't hire anyone. We can't afford to hire anyone. I'll 749 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: just film it and I'll edit it and I'll do 750 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: the whole thing. And so that day I was like, 751 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: let's get in the car. We had a friend living 752 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: with us because he had nowhere to go, and I 753 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,479 Speaker 1: was like, hey, will you drive our car while I 754 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: sit in the back with our drypod and so we 755 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: found a road and as we're leaving, he was like 756 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: in workout clothes, and I was like, I want to 757 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: be sure that this like could work if you like it, 758 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: so put on like real clothes. It was like test footage. 759 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: I was like, just put on real clothes. And we 760 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: hopped in the car and the storm starts rolling in 761 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, 762 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And I had called the cinematographer friend 763 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: of mine in l A. And I was like, Hey, 764 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: I just want to double check my settings. I want 765 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: to be sure I'm doing this right. He didn't get 766 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: back to me, and I was like, all right, well, 767 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: I hope this is right. Get out there. This whole 768 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: storm rolls and lightning, the whole thing is real. Because 769 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: we can't pay for c g I like tornado warning. 770 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: Our friends are calling us to come to our basement 771 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: for shelter, and we're like out in it. I'm I'm 772 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: standing out. Stop calling us. And they would call us 773 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: in the middle because we were using our phone as 774 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: playback to the car speakers and so like it was 775 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: just like every time they called it was just like 776 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: the most ghetto set up it was, and so we 777 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: finished and then it started pouring rain at the very end, 778 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: like I was like, God, this is what would be great. 779 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: I need all these things and then when we're done, 780 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: if it could rain, that would be awesome and no joke, 781 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: like we had everything we needed and then it started pouring. 782 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: And so then my friend called me back as we're 783 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: on our way back, and I was like, hey, my 784 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: settings were this, this and that, and he was like, 785 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: I would have told you to do exactly that, and 786 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: I was like yes, And so I got home started 787 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 1: editing it and then I had to make it black 788 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: and white because the tail lights this is rich right here, 789 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: tail lights from the car. When our buddy would hit 790 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: the brakes, it would light them up red, so like 791 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: you could tell yeah, And I was like, well, black 792 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: and white. It is a necessity. We couldn't have used anything. 793 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: That's a great story for that video. Yeah. And so okay, 794 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: well you finished school what is your what what do 795 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: you finish? School of the degree and music music commercial 796 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: voice performance? So same yeah, same as me, but you 797 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: didn't want to be a performer anymore, or you didn't 798 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: want to go down that professionally anyway. Now I didn't. 799 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: I moving to Nashville made me realize like what it 800 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: would take. And I'm such a family person and like 801 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: want we want to start our own family, and I 802 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: just kind of saw it as like there's no way 803 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: I could be the kind of like mom, i'd want 804 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: to be in the future and do this, and some 805 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: people do that, and good for them. I just was like, 806 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: I I don't think I could do it. And I 807 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: also wasn't passionate like it would have. Just if someone 808 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,479 Speaker 1: were to tell me I couldn't shoot a music video, 809 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: I would be like, you're wrong, I can't. I know 810 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: I can, But if someone told me I couldn't sing, 811 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: I'd be like, maybe you're right, you know, Like I 812 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: wasn't passionate enough to be like listen to me saying 813 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: I think it takes the right kind of person to 814 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: be good at it and also not need to like 815 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: proclaim it from the rooftops. But people like still drawed 816 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: out of you somehow. I don't know you have that 817 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: that it's not like egotistical and it's not like listen 818 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: to me sing. I just couldn't do it. If you 819 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: were to like be like singing from me right now 820 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: I would be like, no, thank you. You know, like 821 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: did you try to get her a thing on anything before? 822 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean there's times where like but like I like 823 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: I recorded like on a on a track. Oh yeah, 824 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: we did a Christmas Yeah, it was like our our 825 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: little I mean we made five discsmily, what's not on? 826 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: You can't straight? I didn't see anything. It was I 827 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: think it's coming though. It was a Christmas gift to 828 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: our family when we were super broke the year we 829 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: made twelve dollars and we're like, well what do we 830 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: give everybody? Yeah, we have no money to buy gifts, 831 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: so we've made Christmas songs. When you want to get 832 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: him a taste oh white Christmas nice? Oh yeah, we 833 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: can definitely do that. I'll listen. I'll definitely help you 834 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: about listening and supporting you in my heart. Boo do 835 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: it girl dreaming Christmas? Just like the that was amazing. 836 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: You're really good. Really yeah, she's got that like little 837 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: Zoe Deschanel, cute, little indie vibe. I love it. Wow. 838 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: That's yeah right, yeah, that's right and so good. And 839 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: so were you like terrified would you like what if 840 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: she's no? Because I'd have been like, oh, I get it. 841 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: You don't want to anything. I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 842 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: no problem. I've been like you weren't trying that. So 843 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: when you finished school though, so what career path? Like, 844 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: what was the goal then? Because you're not going to perform. 845 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: I did photography sometime, you're going to supported our family. Yeah. 846 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: I didn't take pictures of what I did, and I 847 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: ended up doing more video like weddings, wizards, nice. This 848 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: is a very niche market, but I did full time. 849 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: I was a missions photographer for two years out of college. 850 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: So an organization out of Dallas called Missions International would 851 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: pay for me to go and document their trips and 852 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: I was on salary with them. And then so when 853 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: t R and Lauren went to adopt, Lauren was like 854 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: will you please come with us? Um A, I want 855 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: you to be there, but be other people want to 856 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: document it and I don't know them, and so she 857 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: was like, you've done this, so um I went with them, 858 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: and then I did a lot of album covers and 859 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: kind of branding sort of things. And then when he 860 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: started to get really business busy and being able to 861 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: support us, I transitioned out of doing other people's stuff 862 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: and just did his stuff and went on the road 863 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: and did all his highlight videos from the road. Oh 864 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 1: don't just brush over this. This is this deserves a moment. 865 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: She let me just brag real quick. She First of all, 866 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: she was five older brothers. They all played travel soccer 867 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: and they drove all across America and a van growing up. 868 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 1: So when we got married, she hopped in our van. 869 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 1: She took the live photos while we're playing. She sold 870 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: the merch, set up the merch design, after designed the 871 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: merch uh, and then after the show would take every 872 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: meet and Greek photo until you know, I mean there's 873 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: like fifteen people per night. But hey, I didn't mean 874 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: she would shoot, tear down the merch, load the merch, 875 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like she was a road warrior, 876 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: throw the van and trailer, and I was pretty good 877 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: at why turning a trailer by the time I retired. Yeah, 878 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like, this woman just let me brag on 879 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: her for two seconds. She was road warrior. So you 880 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: have it's an investment. So you're investing back into this nucleus. Yeah, 881 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: because again you have to pay somebody to do all 882 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: that stuff, right, because I mean, money's money howherever it 883 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: comes from, however it comes money's money. So I wasn't 884 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: like making us money, but I was saving us money absolutely, 885 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, I can do that. I can 886 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: do that. That's the three in me. I'm like, I 887 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: can do it. Between the between the music video and 888 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: coming out on the road, I mean the the jump 889 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: start that the video had on my career, and then 890 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: the countless dollars and hours that you saved. I mean, yeah, 891 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: it's not your not your typical. So what is your 892 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: official position in with him? I don't know. I don't 893 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: need one. But if someone says, what do you do? 894 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: What do you say? I hate that question. Yeah, but 895 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: that's the question. That's the question I say. I'm a 896 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: touring life now because now we're in a place that 897 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 1: we've hired other people, and so like I do still 898 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: like vet who ends up being a photographer if I 899 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: like their work or not. I still I kind of 900 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: creative direct. If someone asked, really, I oversee like this, 901 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: and I oversee graphic design, and yes, no, like ad 902 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 1: mats and like I made the Carly and Russ tour, 903 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: ad Matau one came back and I was like absolutely 904 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: not like readd the whole thing, and then when management calls, 905 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, can you and Kaylee come in for 906 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: this meeting to brainstorm. So she's kind of CEO of 907 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: this of you you So it makes me sound uncomfortable, 908 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: but I mean it. You are you are, we're co No, 909 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: you're still okay, So you're CEO your CFO. I don't know, 910 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: so okay, But did you ever consider going into management 911 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: and doing management for him? Was there ever a question? No? 912 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 1: Because I didn't. I don't know. I didn't I wanted 913 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: to get that official official like I don't know. I 914 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to have I didn't need the industries like 915 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: recognition of like oh she manages Russell and I almost 916 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: didn't want that. Like when people call me a white pitcher, 917 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: it makes like I've never heard that term. Well, I 918 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: compared you to Sharon Osborne when I was talking about you, okay, 919 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: because she means she. I don't know she. I don't 920 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: think she's Aussie's main manager, but she definitely she's involved. Yeah, 921 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: and she may have been his manager, Mike when you 922 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: looked that up. But yeah, I compared you to a 923 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: Sharon Osbald because she ran that Ausby was the guy 924 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: and he did the deal. She made sure nobody nobody 925 00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: mess with aussy bounce bounce Yeah sure, Yeah. I feel 926 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: like a gatekeeper to some extent, and like even when 927 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: it means like when people come backstage if they do, 928 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: or like because I'm monitoring his energy levels and like 929 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: because he'll go hard and cookie yeah for rashes And 930 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well yeah, because I go hard and 931 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: then and then zero, you know what I mean. But 932 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't know there was We're it's such like a 933 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: family vibe with my team that to have her as 934 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: like an official anything would just feel we don't feel weird, yea, Kaylee, 935 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: I told you five four and your six forks for 936 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: it's a whole foot. When I was doing math real quick, 937 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: I was like, whole, like a whole. I don't want 938 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: to mess up. That's my big shot to show my 939 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: numbers and my skills and numbers sharing. Yeah, she didn't 940 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 1: manage him and then started the whole management company, started 941 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: the whole company. Jeez um, you also did you did 942 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: another video for him blue to call me? Yeah, so 943 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: I brought in I was full circle. My fourth brother 944 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: is a director in l a went to USC film school, 945 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: did the whole thing, and he was the one directing. 946 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: The reason I did in Nora Jones video was because 947 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: of him, and he was directing it and brought me 948 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: in to shoot it video a young blood if we 949 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: look it up, young blood young blood and he was like, 950 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: I want you to film it. And I filmed a 951 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: few things, but it was like nothing officially. I had 952 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: only done photos at that point, and I was doing 953 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: head shots because the musical theater department's big at balmontin 954 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: I was doing head shots. Was like my college money basically, 955 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: and he was like, I want you to film this 956 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, I've never done that, and he 957 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: was like I trust you an eye and I and 958 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: he's like, I want to fly you to New York 959 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: and I want you to film it. And I was like, okay, 960 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: what are we doing? And he was like, do you 961 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,439 Speaker 1: know who Nora Jones is? And I was like yes, 962 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: but like reminder, I've never done this, and so he's like, no, 963 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: I believe in you. So I flew out there shot 964 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: her music video in her apartment and like got to 965 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: meet her and it was crazy. So then I moved 966 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 1: back to but went back to All Want and everyone 967 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: was like, that's the girl that shot nor Jones music. 968 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 1: So then I got so much business and that was 969 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: like NonStop. But then when this music video is happening, 970 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: we still it was still a new label, young label, 971 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: still didn't have a real big budget, and I was 972 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: like at that point, I was like I don't have 973 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: to do it, like someone else can come in, Like, 974 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: let's see the treatments. I saw the treatments and I 975 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: was like I don't love them, and um, and then 976 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: I saw the numbers and I was like, oh my gosh, 977 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: for this to get pulled off, I still have to 978 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: do it. And so I called my brother and I 979 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: was like, hey, he lives in l A. And I 980 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: was like, we need to film us in California obviously, 981 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 1: will you help me. You can take the entire director percentage, 982 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: which was like not a lot, and he was like, yeah, 983 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: I'll do it. So we got to direct together again 984 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: after all that time, and it was just it was 985 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: just a sweet like full circle bringing him in and 986 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: we'll probably bring him in. He's like a creative genius, 987 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: but um, yeah, it was just cool. Where were you 988 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: in this song? Hit number one? Really? I think we 989 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 1: were on the road. It's funny that we can't remember. 990 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember I was in waffle House 991 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: for the most recent I was like, we're going to 992 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: waffle house, baby, this is the gym. I don't. So 993 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: my thing is I don't hear a lot of Oddly, 994 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: I don't hear a lot of music because when I'm 995 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: doing my show, we're playing like three songs now and 996 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: we're talking the whole time, and we're only playing like 997 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: and I don't pick them. I'll play new stuff that 998 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 1: I like sometimes, but I don't pick the music because 999 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: it's like we're on like a hundred fifty cities. They 1000 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: make sure the biggest three songs, and so unless the 1001 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,919 Speaker 1: song is like one, two or three or four, maybe five, 1002 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't hear it. So when this song started to 1003 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: hit tops, I was like, I'll talk to Amy. I 1004 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: was like, what's the Russell song that I hear that 1005 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: I like? But it was already in the top ten 1006 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: and and then it I mean, it's so good. I 1007 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: love it so but again I didn't hear it until 1008 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: the time. But I don't hear anything. They're like, people 1009 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,360 Speaker 1: always ask me, you hear so much music. I know 1010 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: who your crap right, Like I talk for a living 1011 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: and I have I love music, and I love all 1012 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 1: kinds of music, but I don't. And also my days 1013 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: of like just scouring for somebody on YouTube playing a 1014 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: guitar with three strings the next big thing, you know what, 1015 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ta be funny. I find people who 1016 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: I really believe that, you know, I like, take them out, 1017 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: let him open from me on tour, try to help 1018 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: get published deals. It's like, you know, but this song 1019 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: is a jam? Yeah? Um, I love that one. This 1020 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: song which one moved the fastest? For you? Blue Comma? Really? Yeah? 1021 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean every little thing was longer than yours really 1022 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 1: weeks man, Yeah, it was just the later like the 1023 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: forties was. Then my album came out like three years ago. Now, 1024 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: you know, you lose you know, you lose that initial 1025 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: steam from yours to Blue to Come and then the 1026 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: third single was it was a grind. You had six 1027 00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: or fifty people at your wedding. How do you know 1028 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 1: many people? My dad is a he's the music minister 1029 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: at Woodmont Baptist over here, and it's kind of so 1030 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 1: the venue was free at the church and it was 1031 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,839 Speaker 1: kind of like once you invite one, you invite them 1032 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: all kind of vibe. But we did, like we just 1033 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: did like a cake's reception at the right immediately following 1034 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: the wedding, and then we had to people at our 1035 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: actual like family friends loved two wedding, the fake wedding, 1036 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: and the two receptions ceremony, cake reception, closed reception. I 1037 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to meet anyone at our wedding. 1038 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: You don't want to have to do the whole song 1039 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: that we were in and out right, well that still 1040 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't happen because there were six and but anyway, I 1041 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: want it. Definitely wanted something a little smaller, but here 1042 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: we are. How do you feel about girls who tried 1043 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: to get rustled during shows? I really don't care, honestly. 1044 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: I there are some girls who like sit side stage 1045 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: and we're like I and the girls who are like I. 1046 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think a I trust him like crazy, 1047 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 1: but be they know so many of them, like even 1048 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 1: if someone comments something on one of his things, like 1049 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: the droves of people who come out there like excuse me, 1050 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: do you know, Kate, Like they just like have a 1051 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: whole thing. I was at a show once Actually this 1052 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: is pretty early on, and some girl was in this 1053 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 1: like little red dress at the front of the stage. 1054 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,720 Speaker 1: I was still out in the crowd at that point, 1055 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: and this girl came up to me and she was like, 1056 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm going to go say something to her. 1057 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, please, don't, please, don't say anything. 1058 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: And she was like this is inappropriate, Like everybody knows 1059 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: he's married, and if you don't know he's married, you're 1060 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: not a real fan. Like she like got this whole thing, 1061 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: like it's okay, it's all fine, Like please don't say anything, 1062 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: it's fine. Well, not to be awkward here, but on 1063 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: the phone right now, is the one girl you made 1064 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: out with? I was like, my heart, I wouldn't be surprised. 1065 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 1: So what's what's happening looking forward for you right now? 1066 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: Like where are you at? You get music recorded? Like 1067 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,959 Speaker 1: what's the what's what's the timeline? What's happening? We have 1068 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: a so the next single it's called love You like 1069 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: I Used to. It'll be February, early February coming out. 1070 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 1: We got six songs recorded for the record, go in 1071 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: and probably cut four more in February. Are you doing 1072 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: any of the What is very vogue right now is 1073 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 1: the collaborations. Do you have any? It's very in right now, 1074 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: it's super in right now. Everybody's getting a collaboration. I know, 1075 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: and I don't. I mean, I don't have any as 1076 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: of now. Uh, I would love some. I haven't really. 1077 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: I feel like we'll get there once we get it 1078 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: all recorded and toss the name out Barbra Streisan, Oh 1079 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: what a classic, what a class sick? Uh? Would you 1080 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: let him sing a love song with another girl? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Um, 1081 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 1: I'm always down for collapse. I'll do a whole edge 1082 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: here and collab album. My prediction is you will have 1083 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: one by the time you feel your only six songs totally. Yeah, absolutely, 1084 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: you'll have something. That's the thing. Now, how do you 1085 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: feel about that? Um? You know, I feel like I do. 1086 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: But everything a couple are really cool. Then if you 1087 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: come out and it's down the middle and then we 1088 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: start to burn on it and then we go to 1089 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: the next thing. It's everything is cyclical period in music, 1090 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: every art, it's not even music art, everything is so 1091 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: So how do I feel about it? Great? Then? Medium? 1092 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: Then let's get over it, right, I'm kind of over 1093 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 1: its Well, you're in the business, so you're seeing it 1094 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: a lot more, and you're seeing it from the early 1095 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: early stages of the talks of it. The we're gonna 1096 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: recording this, and we've heard it yet it's actually out 1097 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: that forty two weeks before it even hits the chart, 1098 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: so we both I have to separate myself from what 1099 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: I know on the inside versus like what my people 1100 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: are hearing, which is one why I don't listen to 1101 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: new music from any of my friends ever until it 1102 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: comes out. Maybe two people ever will I be Will 1103 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 1: I take their music and listen to it um, because 1104 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: then I just don't feel the same. Even my favorite artists, 1105 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: I won't take their music because I want to be 1106 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: able to because I feel like I represent all my 1107 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: people and so I don't want to be burned out 1108 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: on something before it even comes out, because it's not 1109 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 1: fair to them. So but I'm okay with it. There's 1110 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: some really good ones. Let's not do bad ones, but 1111 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: let's do good ones. Um, really good collaborations happening right now. Well, 1112 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: first of all, the and we'll go back in time 1113 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: for a second, but the baby let im back, And 1114 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: that's the j It just was like boom the world. 1115 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: Just I remember once I was driving somewhere, I was 1116 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: flipping I was on satellite and I heard that song 1117 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,919 Speaker 1: the first time, and I was like, that's that. That's 1118 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: like the greatest radio song I've heard in yours. I mean, 1119 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: I know who it was on it, I didn't know 1120 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: what didn't and I was just like, won't there is 1121 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah and so and then I think that kind 1122 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: of line people up to go, oh we should grab 1123 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: some more of these yeah, um good ones all r 1124 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: let's go around the room. I'm gonna go. I do 1125 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: like the Dan and sha Bieber song, Yes, because I 1126 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: just love Dann say totally. So I don't know. It 1127 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: could be Dan and Shaye and me. You know, it 1128 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: doesn't matter whatever they put out, it's gonna be good. 1129 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: But this is this is a jam Russell. You got 1130 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: a collaboration you like right now, don't see? I mean, 1131 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: if we're still going back in time, when when Lauren 1132 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: Elena comes in on that came Round song, what if 1133 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: that with me again? An early one too? It was 1134 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: like when she comes into that course, it was like whoa, yes, 1135 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: there we go, and I mine. I don't know the 1136 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 1: name of it, but it's the If the World Was 1137 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: Ending JP, JP Sacks and Julia Michaels. This this deserves 1138 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: little sound, but Hannah Gray, Ellis and Ellis and Nick 1139 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Wayne covered it and it is straight fire. Who is 1140 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: this one? Mike? Do you know what it is? I 1141 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 1: can't find it? Julia Michaels the World on her record 1142 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: and now it's I think it's on JP Sacks s 1143 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: A x E. Who's JPS? I don't know who that is? Though, 1144 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: he's like like smart, I was, I don't know anything. 1145 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: He's got like thirty k on Instagram. I looked. As 1146 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 1: soon as I heard that, I messaged him. I was like, dude, 1147 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: can we play? What's it called? If the World Was Anything? 1148 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: And in traffic I didn't feel it when the earthquake happened, 1149 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: but it really got me thinking, were you out drinking? 1150 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Were you in the If the World Was In? It's 1151 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: been a year like this earthquake happens and it's like 1152 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: she thinks about her what she's doing, and the rock 1153 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: shows up and yeah's in that movie? You know? The 1154 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: one that I like now is that I like the 1155 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Edge Shearing. It's been out for ed sharing and uh 1156 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: Khalid beautiful People People, Gray People. That is the that 1157 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: song that's a jam too. Yeah, I'm in I'm into 1158 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the Collapse big time. I mean that whole album, the 1159 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Travis Scott Oh yeah, what's on the club at the 1160 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: beginning of that track? Yeah, yes, the whole that album 1161 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: is great. Yeah. Social you're going out with Kane? Yes, 1162 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: and so there's also like international stuff in there. Huh 1163 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Is that true? He is? Yeah, I'm not on that. 1164 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm just in America. We need to come on. I 1165 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of nixed him international stuff for the next year, 1166 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: like we were. He we were international twice last year 1167 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: and we were like, oh my gosh, we need to 1168 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: take a circumnavigated the globe when around the whole thing 1169 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: lay over in China Europe. How long do you go 1170 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: with Kane? I haven't told May Night here, I don't know. 1171 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't know February to Maynight into February. You already 1172 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: have tour stuff planned for next fall, you just haven't 1173 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: announced you Are you still working on that ahead? Is it? 1174 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: We're so? Then the summer is like fairs and festivals, 1175 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 1: classic and then headlining slash Yeah, unannounced stuff. Yeah, it's excieting. 1176 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 1: Yea festivals, stages just built for the day stage semi 1177 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: trucks that transformers into a day Well, look at you 1178 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: at the peanut Fests and the Sausage Fest and the 1179 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 1: Point Stia Fest, and you know, all the fests. To 1180 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: be fair to all the fests, there is no paycheck 1181 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: like a festival paycheck. You were indeed correct, They're great 1182 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: and there's really no pressure draw tickets. Usually there's somebody 1183 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,919 Speaker 1: bigger than you plan too, or even if not, people 1184 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: are already there. It's just like we're on a Thursday, 1185 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: and like some like Classic Legacy Act is on Friday, 1186 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: orders on Friday, and then Cake is playing on Saturday. 1187 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: You've got it all covered in all directions. Exactly. Amazing. Well, 1188 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: I look forward to the to the new music. Yeah, man, 1189 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: that'd be cool. I'm super stoked. And then I'm glad 1190 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: both you guys would come in. I know that you 1191 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: were sick. We're we're gonna do this earlier and more 1192 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 1: so than I cared about you being sick, I cared 1193 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: about me getting sick from you, so and I would 1194 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: never I would never want I was like, I hope 1195 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: he's cool with that, because it's literally for everyone's own good. Yeah, 1196 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: he was like a hundred and two fever. You know 1197 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: he's sick when he's like because he is like every 1198 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: day is awesome and I'm only a seven today. He's like, 1199 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: I guess I'll sleep till nine, you know, like, yeah, 1200 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 1: do you do the thing where you go because this 1201 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: is what's gonna happen to me in the next few days. 1202 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: I will get sick because I have been pressing. I've 1203 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: been pressing so hard you have been and it's well, 1204 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: we all do. But I mean in my mind, I've 1205 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: been pressing hard and going and I get very grateful. 1206 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Then I'm not sick during big things, yes, because if 1207 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I have this big standup so I'm gonna do, 1208 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: or I have this big American I don't think i'm 1209 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: gonna do. Please God don't let me be sick. And 1210 01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 1: then I'm not sick and I'm like, thank you God, 1211 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sick us. But i feel like I'm just 1212 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: constantly praying and battling. It's like December comes, it's like 1213 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: it's us. It's like they're all the little green guys, 1214 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: big green blob guys are coming. All of it. Um 1215 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: A little throwback here's that's my girl from from yeah 1216 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 1: right there. It's not great, but I did it in college. 1217 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Here is from two thousand twelve green Line Russell. Who's 1218 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: the one let's take her out of the equation. Who's 1219 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: the one person that believed in you excluding her in 1220 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: your career in your career, who's the one person that 1221 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 1: you go Holy moly, without them? I just I wouldn't 1222 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: be here. John Dennis, my manager, he signed me in 1223 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 1: two thousand ten. Uh. Yeah, he's the one who has 1224 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 1: steadily for a decade. Now, wow, that's weird a decade, 1225 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 1: has believed in me, signed me. I had nothing. He 1226 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: took me to every label. They all said no, you know, 1227 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: he didn't. He never gave up on me, and there 1228 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: was artists along the way that he would sign, taking 1229 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: the labels. They'd say, no, he he dropped, you know, 1230 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: but for some reason he always kept me around and 1231 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 1: would continue to to brainstorm with me. Um. We we 1232 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 1: started our own record label for yours, and that was 1233 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: how we jumped started that. You know, we legally started 1234 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: a record label. We didn't have them, you know, millions 1235 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: of dollars, but we just he paid for your track 1236 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: to get fixed. Yeah, he always my Nissan Armada two 1237 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: thousand four that I would drive, uh would break down, 1238 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: still drive it, it would break downs. He would, you know, 1239 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: pay for all that, and eventually finally we recouped all that. 1240 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Did you get him a Christmas present this year? We 1241 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: don't really, Oh, I know, it's super embarrassing because normal 1242 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: we never really like do Christmas presents. Well, we're in 1243 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: the middle of moving, so we'll give everyone a delayed 1244 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 1: like St. Patrick's president. Yeah, I'll give him a Valentine's Day. Yeah, 1245 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 1: it's no. I mean, like movers come this weekend, like 1246 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: the next two days. So we have kind of just 1247 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 1: been a dizzy dizzy I don't know either work. Yes, well, 1248 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: let's I really enjoy talking about you guys to it 1249 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 1: over hour and finally, Yeah, it's been a long time coming, 1250 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 1: has it. I mean I've I've wanted to He's like, 1251 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,439 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for you to call me. Le see 1252 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: all these awesome artists on this to me is so 1253 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: fun because one, it's long form, you can just talk. 1254 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: It's not minute blocks or two minute blocks. And too, 1255 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I also get to talk to people about deeper in 1256 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: the craft, and I get to talk to people actually 1257 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: inside the aft, like Tom Douglas comes and talks for 1258 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 1: God or what a well Spring? Or um, Carrie Luke's manager, 1259 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: Carry Ailis comes in, Here's Luca Colesman and talks about 1260 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: that side of it. So I'm such a such a 1261 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: nerd of of like music and business that um, I 1262 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. And it's in my house, basically, come here. 1263 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Nobody comes to my house except for people for this show. 1264 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm super like nobody who come to my house. And 1265 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: then except for everybody who's comes to do the show, 1266 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: some of them I've never even met before. So I 1267 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,439 Speaker 1: do want to throw in When you were talking about 1268 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: the Brooks and dun hits, I just want to throw 1269 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: in Cowboy Town. Oh he's referencing if I get to 1270 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: pick two songs. Okay, Yet you're right cowboys don't playway Town. 1271 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to say I heard him do a demo 1272 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: once that, Uh no, you don't. You have to pick 1273 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: the hits three. I'm not saying it's it's not. It's 1274 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: not the most massive hit. I get two songs to play, 1275 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 1: the Brooks and done this one just hits me. And 1276 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,800 Speaker 1: if you get to pick, what did you pick? I 1277 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 1: picked Neon Moon, yes, absolutely, and Bully Boots Scoot Buggie 1278 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: because that's just the crowd. So I've luckily, oddly become 1279 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: friends with Ronnie Dunn, who is known as super sarcastic, 1280 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 1: dry guy and people like man Ronnie. But that's right 1281 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: up my alley, like we are just like perfect, We're 1282 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: like lovers, right and so um. I got a note 1283 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: today they were like, hey, they're gonna do Neon Moon 1284 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and Red Dirt Road and I was like it was 1285 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 1: like Red Roads, fine, but let me hit Ronnie up 1286 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 1: to boot Bogie. So all right, listen that that's all 1287 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Russell D Russell D. But you spell your last name 1288 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 1: with the E at the end. Is that true? It 1289 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,679 Speaker 1: was just spelled wrong with my sheet Rustled, Yeah, Russia 1290 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,560 Speaker 1: Rustled Instagram. That's my Instagram. That's so confusing. I know 1291 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,680 Speaker 1: it's like Russell. I wanted to go for Russell D, 1292 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 1: but then I just did Russell E D both of 1293 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: my initials, and it's just so returned, like written Russell right, yeah, 1294 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: Russell yeah. And then Kayleie Dickerson, are you are you verified? No? 1295 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm not are you verified? Okay? Not to insult him, 1296 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would just expect you should be verified. 1297 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,680 Speaker 1: She absolutely should. Yeah, are you verified on Twitter? Are 1298 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: you verified on Twitter? That was a big day the 1299 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: Twitter with verification back in the day because that was 1300 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: the first variation. That's that's like intro to verification. Yeah, 1301 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 1: I remember the day, like, oh my god, you're like, wow, 1302 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 1: am I famous? But that was like before they would 1303 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: like give it out to like influence or like herbal 1304 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,600 Speaker 1: t influencers, you know what I mean, used to be 1305 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 1: on the battle and that's how will end it and 1306 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: then I can find that yeah, because data isn't the word. Well, 1307 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 1: you know went on it. You may know them and 1308 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 1: it's I don't know. All right, let's see you guys.