1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Welcome back to the Basher Happy Hour. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: You here with me and Joan Fassos. We're filling in 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: for Joe and Serena this week and we are here 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: with the beautiful Cindy Cohlers. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: Oh hello. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 4: I am so excited to have you on that we 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 4: get to interview you up all weeks that Joe and 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 4: Serena are gone. They're like gone on this week. And 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 4: I have You've been like my soulmate through this whole 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: journey because you are a fellow nerd. I was a 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 4: computer science major in college and wrote code, and you 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 4: were a biomedical engineer, and then we both kind of 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 4: retired when we raised our kids. So I just feel 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: like we have so much in common and I've been 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 4: dying to talk to you. 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: I love that geeked forever. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't wait. You guys and my mom. 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: My mom's a double major in bio and ken so 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm very familiar with at all. 20 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 4: We're gonna love her, I can't. 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: We love her. We love what happened. One day she 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: could be part of our club. 23 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, she would love it, eat it up. 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: Nerds rule the world. So that's the truth. 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: I agree. 26 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 4: Okay, So I think we should probably just start by 27 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: getting to know you a little bit and like maybe 28 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: just tell the audience like where you're from, kind of 29 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: what you do and how you ended up on the Bachelor, 30 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 4: because that's always a freaky story. 31 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: That you're right. So, yeah, I'm Cindy. I live here 32 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: in Austin, Texas. Literally this is this is my place. 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: There is the river right there. I've lived here for 34 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: thirty years and raise my kids here. I'm a biomedical 35 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: engineer who got into medical aesthetics after I trained, after 36 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: I trained my kids, after I grew my kids up, 37 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: and I've been divorced seven years, and I think my 38 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: kids just really were happy and anxious for me to 39 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 3: find love. So in April of this year, my youngest 40 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: daughter decided to sign me up for the show and 41 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: to take it back a little bit further. In January 42 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: of this year, I made a deal with the universe, 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: with God to just say yes to the opportunities in 44 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: front of me. You know, we have a tendency, especially 45 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: as you get busy, like, oh, you know, it's not 46 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: a good time for me, Let's do it next time, 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: or I'll circle back. And I just kept putting off life, 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: and just in January, I just decided it's time just 49 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: to say yes. So this is my year of saying yes, 50 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: and the opportunities that has brought me, and the joy 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: and happiness and the memories that's brought me. I just 52 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: encourage everyone to start their lifetime of saying yes. So Caroline, 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: my little one, signed me up for the show, and 54 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 3: it was just kind of like, yes, of course, I'll 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: do it. And it's never that easy because you go 56 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: through all the interview process and I thought, there's no listen, 57 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: there's no way they're going to pick this girl from Austin, Texas. 58 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: What am I going to do on this show? And 59 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: we get a little deeper and I'm like, well, the 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: taping seems to be a problem for us. My middle 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: daughter is getting married. I can't change that, and the 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 3: taking dates don't work out, I can't go on the show. 63 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: There was just a million reasons that the universe should 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: have said no to this. Yeah, and I had. 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: The same story. I had the exact same thing. I 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 4: like just wasn't ready to date, wasn't doing anything to 67 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: make my life better. It was just kind of in, 68 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: you know, just go along with life and let it 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: just happen around you. And I started saying like I 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: got to do things that scare me, like I need 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: to go to weddings as a single person, and I 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 4: need to just do the things that make me uncomfortable. 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: And one of them was doing the show and I 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: did the same thing. Also, dates didn't work out. My 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: daughter had a baby eight days before I was supposed 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 4: to be on the show, and I was like, if 77 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: anything happens and she's late or something happens like with 78 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: the baby, I won't be able to go on the show. 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: But the universe just aligned. Sounds like it. 80 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Was this this is Golden Bachelor. 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: Yeah wow. Yeah so when I was a cousin like 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: I was you, I was a contestant on the show. 83 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: Yeah so like yeah two days after filming, I left 84 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: for Italy for the wedding. 85 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 86 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: So it was it was like back to back and 87 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: you just you just have to say this, Unlike you, 88 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: I was dating a lot. I think I've I've tallied 89 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: like one point two million men that I've dated, So 90 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: I wasn't scared of be. 91 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: Was what was missing beforehand? 92 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: What like why did all these people but not a 93 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: single person, because I'm in a similar boat right now. 94 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm finally back out on the market, dating around, and 95 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm like trying to figure out what it is that 96 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: I want and don't want. What is it that was 97 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: like not letting you find that person? 98 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: You know, I'm everybody's picky, Listen, we have our things. 99 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not that picky, to be honest, But 100 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: there was always one thing or another like this. I 101 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: dated a great man, just probably my most recent relationship, 102 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: and he just wanted a little compartment of his life 103 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: to share with me, and I kind of want the 104 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: whole thing I want. I want the family. I want 105 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: to be involved with his career. I want to, you know, 106 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: be there on a Tuesday as well as on this 107 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: Saturday and for the big events. And I have other 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: men who, uh may have a different viewpoint of what 109 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: family looks like. And my family is super important to me, 110 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: and I promised them I don't want to bring anyone 111 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: in to our family that will mess up the magic 112 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: that we have. So there's always been you know what, 113 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Geography is not a problem. I can move. I live 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 3: here by myself. All my kids have grown and flown, 115 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: the blown the nest, so moving has not been a problem, 116 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: but if you're not in the same city, it's hard 117 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: to get to know each other. And Jonathan you might 118 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: have experienced that too. It's all the stars have to align. 119 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: Yep, couldn't agree more cool both, Yeah, thank you, and 120 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: then off of that as well. So obviously dating pre 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: show didn't go as planned. But when you found out 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: that you were going on the show, how did your 123 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: like friends and family react? I know you said your 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: daughter signed you up with she stoked. Were like the 125 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: grandkids or just kids in general? Like, were they excited 126 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: for you? 127 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: What did your friends say? I think it was so 128 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: much fun, like telling my group of friends that I 129 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 4: was doing this. What were they excited for you? What 130 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: did they think? Were your kids like, oh my god, mom, 131 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 4: this is gonna be so embarrassing. 132 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: Oh they were like, don't just don't kiss them? And 133 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: I was like, guys, I'm not looking for a roommate. 134 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: I might have to kiss them. 135 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: I kind of want to kiss them. If I don't 136 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: want to kiss them, then one of my prod I'm 137 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: waying there. It's a problem, Like it is not really 138 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: what you want for me. But my kids were super supportive, 139 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: and again, they want me to find love, they want 140 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: me to be happy, and my friends do too. But 141 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: my friends were like, well, of course that's what you're doing. 142 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: Just I'm just a bold person and I end up 143 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: finding myself in crazy circumstances. And most of them said 144 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: they could never do it, that, putting yourself out there 145 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: this way, and I would determine to be vulnerable, to 146 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: be authentic, to just show my real stuff on this show. 147 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 3: It's hard and a lot of people would be uncomfortable 148 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: with that. 149 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So how did you prepare for it? 150 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: Then? 151 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: Like, how did you get ready to come on here 152 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: and just put yourself out there like that? 153 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: Prepare for it? What are you talking about? I had 154 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: a wedding, I was I was also deep is like 155 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: what Flower Arrangements were doing, And so I had two 156 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: sets of suitcases. I had my Italy suitcase for the 157 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: wedding and I had my my bachelor And honestly, you 158 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: just let go at that moment, and it was more 159 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: important for me to prepare my heart more than preparing 160 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: for my gowns and what I was going to wear, 161 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: and just yeah, you know, deciding to jump in. 162 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well. 163 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: You killed it on the gowns, so I think you 164 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: did both of them really well. 165 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: Thank you coming, thank you, No. 166 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: I'm telling you you had beautiful Oh your clothes were 167 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: all beautiful. I loved every dress. Plus you look really 168 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: good and clothes, so that does help obviously. So let's 169 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: talk about night one. Let's just kind of jump in, 170 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: like we're talking about evening gowns. I know both Jonathan 171 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: and I have done it. I don't think Jonathan has 172 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: a shy bone in his body, so I'm not going 173 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: to even like, say, were you nervous? So let's you 174 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: and I talk about being nervous, because I know Jonathan wasn't. 175 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: Well. 176 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: First of all, I came out like I was nervous, 177 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: had any clothes on? 178 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm confident in my body. I don't know if I'm 179 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: confident in my night walk of So that's different. 180 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: Very well, now you're old, you're old, your experience experience again? 181 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, now, yeah, the second time we only knew, right 182 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: if we only know? 183 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: I know, but that first time getting out of that limo, 184 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: first of all, like were you terrified? Like how was 185 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 4: it getting out of the limo? And what did you 186 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: think of mel when you first saw him. 187 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so you guys can both relate. Like, 188 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: they don't tell you where you are in the line up. 189 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 3: So we we load up, we're in the limo and 190 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: we're driving to the mansion and they're like, well, Soddy, 191 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: you will be the first one out of the limo. Yeah, 192 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: And my entire limbo group was like, h thank god, 193 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 3: it's not us. 194 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: The last one. 195 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: I don't know which is worse. 196 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: You have to wait. 197 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: One hundred percent the best one because there's nothing to 198 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: judge you on, and they're very excited to start the night. 199 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: I wish I had that perspective. I did not have 200 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: that perspective. I was terrified, incredibly nervous. And then I thought, 201 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 3: So you drive up and you you can't really see 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: Mel through the window. It's it's blackened out. But I 203 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: see his hair and I see his shirt, and I 204 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: noticed like he's taller, he's he's he has a big present. 205 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah that I really by the way, it's on my checklist, 206 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: check jet. And so you're excited about it and then 207 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: you open the door and honestly, Mel just draws you in. 208 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: He's got laser beams for eyes, and he's so engaging 209 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: and charming and handsome. So you know, once you get 210 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: into the moment, it's it's it is great. 211 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: Yes, take you the first fifteen seconds and then you're like, Okay, 212 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 4: I could do this. 213 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: Did you ignore the thirty cameras that are like right 214 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: behind you as you walk up at first, because that's 215 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: all I could pay attention to them. 216 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: I think if you don't ignore them, you could have 217 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: never gotten into a bikini and rolled around on the 218 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: surf like we did. 219 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: Seriously, Oh I love that day. 220 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: That was you just literally it was like you, but 221 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: you have to like you just have I committed from 222 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: the first step, the first step onto the mansion driveway 223 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: that I'm here for for mel and for me and 224 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: for for the women, which was a big surprise for me. 225 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: But you're here for the experience, and you got to 226 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: let go of who's watching and what they're going to 227 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: say about you. 228 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to go all in. So you just 229 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: you just made a funny comment you said, I didn't 230 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: know I was here for the women. That was a surprise. 231 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: So you walk in, you were y'all. 232 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: Were faking it. You're faking it on your shows. 233 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: It's that makes the entire difference of the show. 234 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: It's crazy. So you were the parting in there, so 235 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 4: you got to welcome people kind of coming in. Who 236 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: did you kind of bond with on night one? Did 237 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: you find your friend on the first night? 238 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I found twenty two of them, and twenty two 239 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: of them honestly, Mylene was in my limo, super close. 240 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: Tracy who let Tracy and Lisa went home the first day. Carla, 241 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: I gravitated immediately to Nicole. She and I just sat 242 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: down and had a great conversation. And then Robin. Once 243 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: Robin and I met, we were magnetized. We were inseparable 244 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: and just wanted to sit on her lap. Just where's Robin? 245 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: If you want to find a picture of me, I'm 246 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 3: next to Robin. That's how I look for it. And 247 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: there's also Jerry was so sweet. I didn't get to 248 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: know her the first night. Or Carol or Terry. Those 249 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: were They're all great. Those were three that snuck up 250 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: on me. And Carol in the end was such a 251 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 3: surprise to me, Like, yeah, I love her, but everybody 252 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: flocked to her the first night, so I didn't have 253 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: my chance to get to know her as well. Oh yeah, 254 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: and there's. 255 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: A long list of them I know. And Jerry lives 256 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 4: in my hometown. She lives like right down the road 257 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: for me. I haven't met her yet, which is crazy. 258 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't. 259 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, she lives in Rockville, Maryland. My dress is Rockville, Maryland. 260 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: I mean we are like neighbors. So I have to 261 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: figure out how to get a hold of her and 262 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 4: like meet up and have dinner or something. 263 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: We will figure that out. I haven't think that that 264 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: should not be a problem. And you will be thick 265 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: as thieves. She is. She has. 266 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 4: It's so funny. And I'm going to be in Austin 267 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: in a couple weeks. I'm going to look you up. 268 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: Oh yes, for sure. Yeah, I can't wait. 269 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: Okay, So let's so. I love talking about like the 270 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: first night in the mat in the mansion, and I 271 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: could talk about probably every episode with you, because there's 272 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: things that, like I would love to rehash, but I 273 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: really like to get into the episode that we're talking about, 274 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: which is episode five, and that was a really big 275 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: one for you. And first of all, I loved the 276 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: conversation in the beginning of this episode that you were 277 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: having with Carol, because neither one of you had had 278 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: a one on one date yet, and you both stakes 279 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 4: were really high, like this was probably the most important 280 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: day that you had because this like kind of determines 281 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: whether you're going to go on or not, possibly because 282 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: it's hard to move on if you haven't had a 283 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: one on one date, right. So I love the conversation though, 284 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: because Carol was feeling very not confident and she was 285 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 4: expressing that to you and you were saying, no, yours 286 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: is just kind of a slow burn. But now you 287 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: guys are in like hyper mode and you know you 288 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 4: could certainly get you could certainly get the one on 289 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: one date, and you were just pumping her up, and 290 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: that's just like so kind of you because obviously this 291 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: is like an important day for you also. So I 292 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: just want to say, first of all, I love that 293 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 4: you did that, and that shows how important the relationships 294 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: in the house really become. 295 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: So you were it was a great moment, and we 296 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: were talking about it beforehand too, and I was like, 297 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: I know, I went through something similar when I was 298 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: going through the process where I'm very aware of everybody around. 299 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: Me, almost before I am of myself. 300 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: And it seemed like when you got that one on 301 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: one rather than just completely being like, yes, I got it, 302 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: I did that, like you're you got emotional, I think, 303 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: and you can correct me if I'm wrong, because you 304 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: know this girl that you care for and Carol didn't 305 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: get the chance to get this and you knew how 306 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: much it meant to her. But also you want to 307 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: celebrate yourself at the same time, and watching you kind 308 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: of navigate through that that feeling in those products like 309 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: it was it was a really fun and just like 310 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: sweet moment to watch as you kind of reassured her 311 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: as you also celebrated yourself. 312 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's both sides of it. You know. You you 313 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: have a group of women who are left. You've got 314 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: Cheryl who got the first one on one with mel 315 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: and clearly their relationship has grown. He's kept her around 316 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: and he wants to have more time with her. You've 317 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: got Debbie who had her one on one and she's 318 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: still around. You've got Peg So it's like a litany 319 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: if you don't have that one on one. You know 320 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: I did, I did get a rose, and Carol did 321 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: get a rose, but it didn't come with extra time 322 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: like Nichole's did. So that time is what's important and 323 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: Carol and I are very aligned in how we see 324 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: our family, and we don't introduce people to our family often, 325 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: and so going to having a one on one date 326 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: is essential, not just for mel to know us, but 327 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: for us to, yeah, help know if we want to 328 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: bring somebody into our family's lives. 329 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And your collective time with him at this point 330 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: is ours. 331 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: Like you like, how I know I've talked to him 332 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: for forty two minutes. 333 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit. So you've 334 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: you said many of your interviews that you felt like 335 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: you were developing strong feelings for him, but we saw 336 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: very little of your interaction with him real, really very little, 337 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: and so I'm kind of wondering, like, how did you 338 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: really feel about your relationships? Did you really feel like 339 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: you were taking the steps to get to a good place. 340 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: Did you feel pretty confident? 341 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: Mel and I would start a conversation and within a 342 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: breath would be covering ten topics. Our relationship is absolutely effortless. 343 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: When he was named as Golden Bachelor, my oldest daughter 344 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: was the first one to discover it, and she texted 345 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: me immediately and called me and said, Mom, I think 346 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: they picked him for you. Mel Is uniquely designed to 347 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: be in a relationship with me, and so I was 348 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: not surprised with this, and I leaned into it. And 349 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: early on, you know, I knew enough about him and 350 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: I needed to explore the chemistry. Check check. Now we're 351 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: looking at compatibility. It's going very well. But yeah, my 352 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: conversations with him ended up on the editing room floor, 353 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: and it's fine that happens. It's a short show. But 354 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: there's no question that he and I are aligned and 355 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: had easy, effortless deep conversations. Yeah, even we started talking 356 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 3: about what books are you reading? Imagine how much ground 357 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: you have to cover in order to get to what 358 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: books do you read? 359 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: Conversation, you address some of my concerns too, Like from 360 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: the outside in, he seems like a very stoic man 361 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: of few words, Like doesn't really open up much about 362 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: his feelings towards any of the women. You know, he 363 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: talks about himself being like uneasy, or there's a lot 364 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: of friction in his life, or these different things. But 365 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: the reassurance of like, hey, I'm interested in you. Did 366 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: you get a lot of that from him? 367 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: He always is super generous to me, and just in 368 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: the subtle things He's not the type of man Jonathan 369 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: to your to your comment to say, oh I like 370 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: you better than X y Z. That's just that's just 371 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: not who he's ever going to be. And if you 372 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 3: asked him to do it, that would you don't know. 373 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: You don't know mel very well. 374 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: If you pushed him into that, you're asking him to 375 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: be something that he's not. 376 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: He's not. He's not And nor did I want him 377 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: or need him to be. As long as I was there, 378 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 3: it meant I was interested. If he still kept me 379 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: along and meant he was interested. And we're just going 380 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: to take every moment, every sip may make it a 381 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: gulp on our one online, but we were going to 382 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: just take every chance to to explore. 383 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: It because is if you understand him like you understand 384 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: who he is and how he communicates, and you were 385 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: able to read between the lines, you need that verbal 386 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: reassurance all the time. 387 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 3: It was very intentional on our with our time together 388 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 3: and at every every little moment I've caught him at 389 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: the pool party. Pool party was interesting for me, Right, 390 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: I let's talk about pool party for doing this. 391 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to the drama of Nicole eventually anyways. 392 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: So yeah, so I don't mind diving right into that. 393 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: Because so tell tell us about the pool party. I mean, 394 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: we weren't there. You were experiencing it for hours. We 395 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: saw minutes of it, but clearly like there were some 396 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: uncomfortable moments, like even watching it on TV. I said, 397 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 4: I had my five year old gandson was laying with 398 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: me that night and he was like turned away from 399 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 4: the TV, and I was like, yeah, he can't watch this, 400 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: Like this is a lot. 401 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: Everybody has their journey and everybody has their path, and 402 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: Nicole and mel had chemistry for sure, There's no doubt 403 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: about it. It's not a choice that many of us 404 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: would have made. And I think we've made that very clear. 405 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 3: Nicole and I are friends. I told her how I 406 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: felt about it. She knows, and I'm fine with where 407 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: she is. She's fine with where I am. So that's 408 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: not the problem. What I think wasn't really explored on 409 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: this show is it wasn't just that we wanted to 410 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 3: change Nicole's behavior. Many of us were wondering, is this 411 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: the type of man that we would choose? And would 412 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: my man allow this access to him under these circumstances, 413 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: And so you know, Jared, I thought about I thought 414 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: about you as I was reflecting and trying to process this, 415 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 3: Like what would that be like to be in a 416 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: situation where you've got twenty three men throwing themselves at you? 417 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: And would you always be your best? Would you always 418 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: be you know? I like to say, I want to 419 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: be the I want to behave in the way that 420 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: my future husband will be proud of me. So if 421 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: he is in that group, would he be proud? And 422 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: would Mel have been proud of the way he behaved 423 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: knowing that his future person was there, And so that 424 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: that's really where I was coming at it, And I 425 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: had to I had to come to a point of 426 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: grace with Mel. It's a new circumstance for sure. It's 427 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: a completely out of body experience. 428 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: The right way to do it. And this is the 429 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: first time too. 430 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's and so we just I just found 431 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: a moment of grace for him and. 432 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: For Nicole too. 433 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: Listen, they they have chemistry together, There's no doubt about it. 434 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: So you just, you know, you just have to see 435 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: it for what it is. And that's at the end 436 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: of the day, how I choose to see it. And 437 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: I chose to see it at that day. 438 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: You are very kind, and I felt like watching it 439 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: on TV was uncomfortable, so I thought being there was 440 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: twenty times more uncomfortable. Yeah, and I felt like it 441 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: was even uncomfortable for Mel. It didn't look like he 442 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: was really embracing it. I feel like I'm getting a 443 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: little glimpse into Mel that I haven't had yet. So 444 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, like helping us with this Cindy, because 445 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: I think, like everybody wants to see that he's so 446 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: stoic and he doesn't really reveal a lot about himself, 447 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: which kind of brings me a little bit to your date. 448 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: And you, guys, now you've ridden, so first of all, 449 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: you ribed and your cowboy boots. I love that about you. 450 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: You're embracing your Texas. You're letting him know who you 451 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: are and like you know what's important to you and 452 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: like where you're from. Okay, and he seems to really 453 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: like it, like he thinks it's pretty sexy and cute. 454 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: So and you just happened to look adorable, like being 455 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: a text as you you got to be on a 456 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 4: horse that he was super uncomfortable with, which I kind 457 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: of gave you a little bit of upper hand. He 458 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: was like, no, I'm a professional football player, nothing scares me. 459 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: And yet he couldn't control that horse to save his life, 460 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: which was so funny, and you were so comfortable in it. 461 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: So but really the thing and I loved that part 462 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 4: of the date. But I really loved when you guys 463 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: finally got to your destination and you got to sit 464 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 4: down and you got to talk about yourself and you 465 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: got to like kind of tell him like who you 466 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: really are. And obviously he knew some stuff about you. 467 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 4: You know, you reflected on that you were this biomedical engineer, 468 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: soh my god, you're a super smart, beautiful woman, and 469 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 4: then you were a valedictorian, and then you were a cheerleader. 470 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 4: You had it all going for you, such a badass. 471 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: Also had such a badass. We love that about you. 472 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: But then you also had these other parts of life 473 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: that didn't go perfectly. And one of the things that 474 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: you sounded like was such a huge disappointment was all 475 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 4: you wanted was a stable family for your daughters and 476 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 4: for you, and you ended up with a marriage going bad, 477 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: and you talked about that on national TV to this man, 478 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: and I really so much wanted for him to give 479 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: that back to you, and we're all like anxious to 480 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: hear it. We all want to hear We all want 481 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: to love mel, we all want to like he's like 482 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: this successful guy. None of us are going you know 483 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: this poor guy. He deserves another chance at love. He 484 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 4: hasn't led us into that part of his life. And 485 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: that was the perfect time. How did you feel when 486 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 4: you opened up and then he didn't give it back 487 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: to you? 488 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 3: It was very disappointing, I'll be honest, like for me 489 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: to be that vulnerable, I expected a little bit more 490 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: back from him. And if he doesn't want to share 491 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: with me perhaps about his history, maybe give me more 492 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: reassurance as to where I am in his world? Right? 493 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: And I didn't get I really, I honestly didn't get either. 494 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 3: And I know that people might look at these one 495 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: on Mondays frankly the whole show and believe that it's 496 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: we're trying to woo Mel. Well, that's only part of it. 497 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm living my life. This is Cindy's life. 498 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to feel weued as well. 499 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: That's right. And he did wooy, he got on a horse. 500 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: You've never been on a horse. I don't know if 501 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 3: you know it, he's allergic to horses. 502 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: Did not know that one. 503 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you still not know that? Huh. 504 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: I still thought that would be a fun date. His 505 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: feet were so big he can't put his foot in 506 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: the stirrup, so he just had his toe in the stirrup. 507 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: So I could tell how much she was he was 508 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 3: giving me in those things, but he wasn't verbalizing any 509 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: vulnerability to me or giving me any emotionals. So I'm 510 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: I'm balancing between you know, can one replace the other? 511 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: And I think you need I think you need both. 512 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that goes back to the having to read 513 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: between the lines that I talked about earlier. It's like, yes, 514 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: you can, and it seems as if you had the 515 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: ability to. But there are moments, there are these little 516 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: moments where you're like I need more sometimes like it's 517 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: such a rush process. We talked about like I've known 518 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: you for a few hours, like spent as much time 519 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: with you where you have this time Now you got 520 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: this one on one, Like yeah, you got over the 521 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: other women. 522 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: That's not the basis of what you're worried about. 523 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: You're worried about getting to develop your relationship more with 524 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: this individual that you. 525 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: Have a lot of feelings for. 526 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: It's okay to feel those feelings, and like part of 527 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: me wishes you kind of put it to him a 528 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: little bit where you're just like, hey, tell me, like 529 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: just like open up, you know what I mean? And 530 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: he seems like they kind of kind of needs that 531 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: push a little bit sometimes. 532 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to be he needs to be coached. 533 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: Me need to be coached a little bit. 534 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, not that you want him to be different than 535 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: who he is. You want him to express who he is. 536 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: And yeah, for sure, And a kiss cannot replace that 537 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: verbal and getting to know each other. It just they can't. 538 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 3: A kiss cannot replace the vulnerability that you need in 539 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 3: a relationship. A part of it is I'm thinking that 540 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: he's waiting until we have time together, just the two 541 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: of us. And that's what I'm reading at the moment. Yeah, 542 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: by away, I keep giving him grace, don't I You 543 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 3: see a common theme. I keep letting him off the hook. 544 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 3: I know, I know, and you know it's a difficult 545 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: position for him to be in. Two is it's uncomfortable. 546 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: I'm having to make my decisions as well. 547 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I feel like like people need to understand 548 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 4: that every single day is a leap of faith, because 549 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: like I like, we're all saying, you spend so little 550 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 4: time with the person, and so that going to the 551 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: next day and say, am I willing to spend time 552 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 4: away from my home and my family and my job 553 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: and my loved ones and my own bed and the 554 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: comforts of my life to be here one more day 555 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: with this person? And I keep making this leap of faith. Okay, 556 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: this is another leap of faith every single day. But 557 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 4: when you come down to like final six people, now 558 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: we've had one similar, you know, an elimination, so it's 559 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: down to the final five people, Like how many leaps 560 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: of faith can you keep doing till you think, Okay, 561 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: now I'm just being stupid, and so like I need 562 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: something back, you know, I need more back to make 563 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: me take the leap one more day, And like were 564 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: you getting it from that data? I mean, it was 565 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 4: really cute that he gave you the little thing that 566 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: he named the star after you. But like sometimes I 567 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: feel like bachelor introduces props because the person is having 568 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: a hard time like saying the heart, like saying the 569 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: emotional things or doing the emotional things. So they introduced 570 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 4: a prop and that prop was that thing that he 571 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 4: named the Star of Cindy, which was cute, and it 572 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: did say in love mail at the bottom, and he 573 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 4: did read it to you like was that enough of 574 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: a replacement for you? Or is that? Did that give 575 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: you enough to make the next leap of faith? 576 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, My first test with him was chemistry. Yeah. 577 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: My second test with him is compatibility and comfort. Could 578 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: I be in his presence and not be nervous? And 579 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: then there's a compatibility of can he integrate into my 580 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: life and is willing to let me integrate into his 581 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: after seven years of being divorced and on my own? 582 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 3: Like yeah, really, now reppers hitting the road or the 583 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 3: hoofs are hitting the trail? Yeah right, this is real 584 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: and it's real to him and real scary to him. 585 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: But it's the first time I've really been confronted with 586 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 3: that voice as well. Yeah, that's well, I means like 587 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: full vulnerability with you too. 588 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 4: I said that the whole time during my season kind 589 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 4: of every rose ceremony, I said, this is a two 590 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: way street, Like I can offer you a rose, you 591 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: don't have to take it if you don't feel like 592 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: I'm the right person for you. You need to say no, 593 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: like open up the dialogue. It's not a one way street. 594 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: But let's talk rose heremony because here we are, we 595 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: get a rose ceremony. And this is a big one 596 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: because this is, like they said, oh, super important. Yeah, 597 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: it's super important because this is when you're home to 598 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: meet your for you to meet, for him to meet 599 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: your family and your girls. And I know it sounds 600 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: like your girls are your life and I the same 601 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: thing with my kids, and so you're going to this 602 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: rose ceremony. He called your name first. 603 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: Again, have you been noticing? 604 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: I have been noticing, as a matter of fact, And 605 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: you seemed very happy. So I feel like you took 606 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: the next leap. You did that leap of faith again 607 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 4: and he gave you enough to want for you to 608 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: introduce him to your family. 609 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes I believe that my family, Bourcher and my friends 610 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: are the best mirror for me, the best and knowing 611 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: that he would have a chance to see where I live, 612 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: to see why I live here, this was a big, 613 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: bold change in my life. And it's important that the 614 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: man that I bind myself with understands that I'm fully 615 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: capable of making big, bold moves and seeing and meeting 616 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: my family because everybody says their kids are special, and 617 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 3: they are, but my family is it's unique, and uh, 618 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 3: it's all my son in laws tell me. It's a lot. 619 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: So I have that family that's ais and and so 620 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: you like you really I needed them. I needed them 621 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: to meet Mel and to help me, help to be 622 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: my mirror and to look at him and reflect him 623 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: into our lives. And then I also needed Mel to 624 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: see my family and where I live and my life's 625 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: also it was an important next step. I still wasn't there, Mal, 626 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: it was still not I mean, he's got all these 627 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: women in tow It's it's a tough decision. It's a 628 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: big step to my kids haven't met a new man 629 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: in years. I know, that's one point two million people. 630 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: That's all I had. 631 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: For it. 632 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: I know, what do you think about that? He like, 633 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to thinkgure out his type. And I've 634 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 4: said this over and over again. I mean, Debbie and 635 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 4: Peg and you all seem so different. I couldn't figure 636 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: out who he was going to choose. Like I didn't 637 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: think he was going to choose Nicole, but I thought 638 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: he might choose Cheryl like she was a possibility. I 639 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 4: didn't really know because I can't figure him out. He 640 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 4: just gives so little that I have no idea what 641 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: his type is. 642 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: Mel said from the beginning he doesn't really know either, 643 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: and that this process of going through the Golden Bachelor 644 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: is his way of finding finding out and trying on 645 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: different types of personalities and different types of lifestyles. And 646 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 3: it's fair, you know, there is a big divergence with 647 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 3: the three of us, and yet there's a lot in common. 648 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 3: You know, there's three very loving women who all are committed, 649 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: and I think Mel is monogamous by nature, and so, 650 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, I see a different facet of myself both 651 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: in Debbie and in Peg. So I could see why 652 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 3: he's narrowed it down, and that had to be a 653 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: really tough choice to let go of Nicole and Cheryl, 654 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: who are also the nominal women who have so much 655 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: to give an offer, and I know, yet a connection with. 656 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, is there anything that we haven't covered in 657 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 4: this episode? Like I know, there are so many things 658 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 4: probably swirling around your mind, So something that we didn't 659 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 4: hit that you would, like, you know, let the viewing 660 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: public you know, have an insight into something cool that happened, 661 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: or something you want them to know. 662 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: There's a moment at which I tell mel and I've 663 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: only felt this one other time in my life that 664 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: he feels like a combination of home and vacation all 665 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: wrapped up in the same skin. I love that, and 666 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: to be with him on that one on one was 667 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: more important than than I expected. I wasn't confident, confident, 668 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: like I wouldn't have placed a bet in Vegas on it, 669 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: but I was confident that he wanted to come meet 670 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: my family in Austin and he wanted to take it further, 671 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: and that the one on one was an affirmation of that, 672 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: that he wanted to spend more time with me before 673 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 3: we got there. But I was pretty confident he wanted 674 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 3: to take things further. But that one online just really 675 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: grew things for me, and I saw both sides of him. 676 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: It was I finally found a home because you know, 677 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: you're in the mansion, you have all these fantasy dates, 678 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 3: which you know, come on, how can we replicate what 679 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: ABC can do? It's phenomenal, So that amazing, amazing, but 680 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: you have to find a home in it too, and 681 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: to maybe even yeah, in some ways have that feeling 682 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: of home feel like a vacation And I definitely I 683 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: definitely found that on our one on one date. 684 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: I love that. That's like such a I think kind 685 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: of we ought to wrap with that statement right there, 686 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: you found home in vacation the same person, and like, 687 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 4: how could you be any better about that? So? Can 688 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: you tease? Can you give us any little snippet that 689 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 4: about the hometowns, about you taking Mel to meet your 690 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: family and friends? 691 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: Well that is, let's see which direction should I take 692 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: this of having Mel and Austin is it's very exciting. 693 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: Let's just say the chemistry continues and he does have 694 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: some great interactions with my most treasured people, and he 695 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 3: finds a couple party favors along the way. 696 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: Is there any drama? 697 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 3: Any drama? A little bit? Oh? 698 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: Okay, see this, Okay, that's the direction. I want to. 699 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 3: Just just remember it's super important that my family falls 700 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 3: in love. 701 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: With him too, falls in loves or likes. 702 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: Falls in love? Are you kidding my family just can't 703 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: like him? How would that work work? 704 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: No? Yeah, I agree completely. 705 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: Again, you're going on very little cues up until this point, 706 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: and now these people who are in this I keep 707 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 2: calling it a vacuum every time I talk about the show, 708 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 2: because you are you have no outside connections. There's no phone, 709 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: no TV, none of this. So you finally get to 710 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: be around the people who know you, know what you need, 711 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: know what you deserve, and know what you want, and 712 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: they get to meet this person that, potentially, after hours 713 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: of knowing them, is going to propose to you at 714 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: the end of this thing. You need them to not 715 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: need like, there's no other option. 716 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 3: They have to love him, there's no other options. 717 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if that happens for you because 718 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: it's very realistic feeling. 719 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: Mel has to ask permission. Oh, you will have to 720 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: ask permission to marry me by these people that he 721 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 3: doesn't know, and it is surreal because they haven't spent 722 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: the hours with him that I have. This is cold. 723 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: They don't know. They haven't had a chance to talk 724 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 3: to him or to me, so they're going in with 725 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: blind faith and it should be an episode for sure 726 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: that everyone wants to see. 727 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: Oh I do. I'm excited. So I'm excited for this 728 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: week's episode. I cannot wait to see you introduce him 729 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 4: to your daughters because I know how special they are 730 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: for you. So I think that's all for today's episode. 731 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: Can I talk to you? 732 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 733 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: Can I just say thank you so much? You guys 734 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: are so fun and dynamic and charming, and you never 735 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 3: know because I see you on TV and you seem 736 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 3: so distant, but you're everything that everyone can can I mean, 737 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: you're just so gracious and loving and warm, and what 738 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: a treat to be on the show with you. Thank 739 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: you so much. 740 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 4: I am the best and so are you, and so 741 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: oh my god, Well you want to treat the same 742 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: way about you, and I hope that we do many 743 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 4: many mores of the Auvies with you in the you know, 744 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 4: months and years to come. I don't think this is 745 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 4: the end of our journey, so I'm thrilled that we 746 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: got to be here on this very special podcast talking 747 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 4: to you right after this kind of major date. So 748 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 4: thank you for taking the time to be with us, 749 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: and for being on Bacher Happy Hour, and for. 750 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 2: Being a good sport as a whole, like he answered 751 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,959 Speaker 2: all of our questions and when we needed a little tea, 752 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 2: gave us the little moments too. 753 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: We love every second of it. 754 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You're welcome to Austin anytime, and 755 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: if you're here, I fully expect you to look me 756 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: up and we'll have some time. Couple of weeks is reservations. 757 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: Reservations plus one. That's also a great for you. 758 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: I could find twenty. I could find twenty for one 759 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: point one point six okay, personal, please exaplion. 760 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 4: Well, thank you everybody for listening. Be sure to subscribe. 761 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 4: Joe and Sereno will be back with more exclusive interviews 762 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 4: with the women from MEL season to come. 763 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for listenings everyone, Thank you, Bye guys,