1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up. What's up? 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Guys, Welcome into Chargers Weekly. 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 3: We are presented by SPLITTERO Chris Hayry here in the 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 3: content studio, Matt money Smith, the voice of the Chargers 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: in Chicago, calling some big ten hoops money. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: How are you, my friend? 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Doing great? Apologies to the Charger fans that have been 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: trying to engage on social media, free agencies. Very exciting time. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: This is just that one time of year when I'm 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of out of pocket doing some basketball action, but 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: been keeping tabs and trying to share the excitement about 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: some of these signings and talk some people off some 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: ledges that are freaking out a little bit about maybe 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: what moves weren't made. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: It's always an interesting time of year, a lot of 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: opinions about the plan, and I guess the best starting 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: point is with the offensive line. An emergency podcast spearheaded 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: by you last Friday with Tyler Biatisch in the full 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: and you saw what Tyler Linterbaum got from the Raiders. 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: Twenty seven million dollars blew everybody out of the water. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 3: So that wasn't gonna happen for really any team. So 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: to bring in beaddish. Knowing you have Alton Slater back. 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: I think the loudness this week is about the interior line, 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: specifically at starting guard. You bring back Pipkins and Penning 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: for depth and money. We've talked about Penning as a 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: six offensive lineman. We know Trey is a swing tackle. 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: You're bringing Cole Strange obviously a player that Mike McDaniel 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: knows very well and probably had a lot of influence 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: in bringing him into the building. I look at it 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: as a plan that is just currently incomplete. We know 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: that we have the draft, we know that there's a 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 3: second wave of free agency where maybe they do bring 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: in another starting caliber veteran guard. I'm not sure if. 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: Cole Strange is a lock to start. 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 3: I kind of look at him as the competitors welcome 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: where you know when you have rookies coming in in 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: April and may maybe he he's in the mix to 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: start with one of those guys. 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you know, you can always follow the money, 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and I think the money can be tricky, so you 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of got to wait until you get the contract 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: details and figure out what's in the first year, what's guaranteed, 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Are there void years? All that sort of stuff like 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: the Pipkins deals a perfect example of I had kind 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: of heard that his market was right around three and 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: a half million, and he got three six five, and 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: so people, I think saw the total number and we're like, oh, wow, 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: is he swing or what? And I think he's a 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: death piece. And in the case of Trey, look, he's 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: beloved the online room, the you know, Slater in here 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: as good a friends as anybody on the team. Herbert 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: and he are very good friends. So I think that's 53 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: good for the chemistry of the room. And I think 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: when Trey is healthy, that's a great depth piece, right, 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of guy that you would want 56 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: to have in a pinch. He's got to go what 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: we hope in twenty twenty six as a series at worst, 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: maybe a game a half something like that, and Trey's 59 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,559 Speaker 1: going to be perfect for that because of his versatility 60 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: on the right or the left side in the case 61 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: of Penning. The number suggests that maybe a little bit 62 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: more than just like a sixth offensive line, that maybe 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: he is gonna be in that mix for guard or 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: tackle or swing or whatever it may be, along with 65 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: all of those you know, extra offensive lineman snaps, and 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: I thought he was really good in those last year 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: and it's something that you know, the Chargers not only ran, 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: but the Dolphins ran quite a bit of so to 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: me for those for those numbers, that made a lot 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: of sense. And then you know the big one, his 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: goals strange and the question of whether or not is 72 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: that backup money. It's a little bit more than backup money. 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: It's not top shelf starter money, but it's certainly more 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: than a depth piece. It's it's enough money to say 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: this guy is probably gonna be penciled in as a 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: starter unless they signed two more guards at the start 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: of free agency and or at the start of training camp. 78 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: And like you said, with the draft, maybe a rookie 79 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: is going to try to supplant him and then he'll 80 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: be a great depth piece, or they'll be some other 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: player that you know that got on a flyer that's 82 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: going to be in competition with it. But I would 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: assume right now as it stands, from the moment we're 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: recording this, you know, the Chargers' offensive line left to 85 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: right is Rashaun Slater, TBD, Tyler Piottish, Cole Strange and Joe. 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: Walt Chargers Weekly is presented by Splittero, helping homeowners access 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: their home equity with no monthly payments. Splattero offers home 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 3: equity investments a better way to access the cash you 89 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: need from your home without getting to go through a bank. 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: Get a lump sum of cash in exchange for a 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: share of your home's future value. 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Every intent that I see from Mike 102 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: McDaniel's like, all right, we're gonna do that. We're gonna 103 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: bring in Charlie Kohler, We're gonna bring in our ex 104 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: fullback from Miami and Ingold. We're gonna bring in Keaton 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: Mitchell to help spell Keimani and Omarian like every move 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: that I've seen so far, and I know there's work 107 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: to be done. It's a concerted effort to improve the 108 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: running game, and that being a maybe the number one 109 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: easy button for Justin Herbert. 110 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: Look, I think if you're if you want to get 111 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: excited about free agency, then yeah, it's the run game 112 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: because it's I mean, it's lining up to be something 113 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: man between like you said the play calling of Mike 114 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: McDaniel and look in running the ball, like your offensive 115 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: line blocks up a play right, like it's set up 116 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: to block. And if you have exceptional centers or pulling 117 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: guards or obviously you know how good Slater and Old are, 118 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: like that stuff's a bonus. But man, when you get 119 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: to the tight ends and the fullbacks and to Trey 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: Harris and the Keenan Allen's and those type of blocking 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: wide receivers, that's when you can really pop stuff and 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: pop some explosives. And I think what you saw from 123 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: the additions of Ingold and Kohler is committing to that. 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: And then with the just the incredible speed of Keith Mitchell, 125 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: Like that's that's something to get excited about. This this 126 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: three deep room now with Mitchell and that blazing speed 127 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: by Dell led by Amari and Hampton, adding Charlie Kohler, 128 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: who's a heck of a run blocker man, and an 129 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: Ingold who's pretty fun to watch as well. I think 130 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: that's that's where you get excited. I think the look 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: I understand the trepidation and the concern just because it's 132 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: it's very similar to what we went through last year, 133 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: right waiting signing Mackay Becton at a discount, you know, 134 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: on the back end of the opening a free agency 135 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: and it not working out. And so that part I did. 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I do think that this 137 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: particular scheme is going to be a lot more friendly 138 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: and not as dependent upon a guy without quick game, 139 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: without easy buttons, without a lot of misdirection and motions 140 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: and things like that, to not constantly have the defense 141 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: on their toes. And so if you're not comfortable with 142 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: what the numbers were, there were a couple of deals 143 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: out there that I thought were pretty fair. I mean, 144 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I thought Zion's deal was pretty fair. There certainly was 145 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: on the high end of the market. I get, you know, 146 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Cimlo getting three years going into his year thirty three season. 147 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: I get that that could be a little bit of 148 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: a concern, but I like him a lot. I think 149 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: he's a dependable, you know, reliable, available offensive lineman Elton Jenkins. 150 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: Maybe they just weren't comfortable with the injury, but of 151 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: course you can, you know, as Baltimore shows, you can 152 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: avoid that contract before the start of the lead year 153 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: once you put in through a physical if you're not 154 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: as comfortable with what you saw from the medicals. So 155 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe where some of the concern was 156 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: coming in, is that there were some deals out there 157 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: that when we were in Indianapolis, it was like, oh, 158 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: I might get twenty two million dollars, and you know, 159 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: the guard market just didn't quite fit into that box. 160 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: And so I think once that happened, you felt like, oh, well, 161 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: there's value. WHI are we're not getting some value? And 162 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I think, you know, tbd's let's kind of see what 163 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: this looks like with the draft. If it is, you know, 164 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if they get you want to 165 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to make it to him. 166 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: But I think when you talk about pregnant or basantis 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: or even a little bit deeper in the draft some 168 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: of these guards that might be available, then it's just 169 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: kind of see how the whole thing shakes out. What 170 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: I've liked one of those, like I said, yeah, I 171 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: thought some of the deals were pretty pretty fair, But 172 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: that's where we're at, and I think there's other stuff 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: to get excited about, particularly cool or ingold Keaton Mitchell 174 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: in this run game. 175 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: And we also don't know if if Zion chose Cleveland, 176 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: how close the Chargers were. 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: That's the thing with a lot of these free agents too. 178 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: Money is like they have to want to come, and 179 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: if if it's they're more comfortable in another Iron, in 180 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: another state and another organization, then what can you do. 181 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: You can offer the money, that doesn't mean they're always 182 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: going to come. I go back to last year and 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: you mentioned Beckton. If you were able to get another 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: veteran guard and then go into this draft, keep in 185 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: mind they didn't draft any interior offensive lineman at all 186 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: last year. That's not going to be the case this year. 187 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: They are going to draft a starting guard. They have to. 188 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: They have to draft a starting guard, and it's going 189 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: to be either Yoanna if he gets there, which I 190 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: agree with you I don't think he's going to be there, 191 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: but I was just I was going back a couple 192 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: of years and like, for instance, in the third round 193 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: Junior Colson, he was drafted sixty nine overall. Four picks later, 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: the Cowboys get Connor Beebe, who has started twenty seven 195 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: times at guard over the last two years. 196 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: That's a third round pick. 197 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: Tate Ratlich from the Lions seventeen starts last year, two 198 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: picks after Trey Harris, Mason McCormick, a guy who has 199 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: picked like fourteen picks after Justin o boyk Bee in 200 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: the fourth round. It started twenty seven games in the 201 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: last two years. So if it's not Yowana, it can 202 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: be a masontist or a pregnant or somebody in that 203 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: category that can immediately come in and start and compete 204 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: with a Cold Strange or a Trevor Penning or who 205 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: knows if a Wyatt Teller or Botonio or one of 206 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: those guys could still be in the mix. So I 207 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: know the plan is not complete, but I'm willing to 208 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: wait until April twenty fifth to see what the room 209 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: looks like. Because these free agents sometimes are flawed players. 210 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: There's injury, history, like Vera Tucker would have been great, 211 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: but he has an injury history. Jenkins has an injury history. 212 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: I'd much rather have a rookie on a rookie deal 213 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: who doesn't have a lot of tread on the tire 214 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: that could come in and be a day one starter, 215 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: and talking to DJ and talking to several guys at 216 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: the combine, there are plenty of guards that fit that category. 217 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: On day two of the draft, I think the you know, 218 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: the concern is just that I think there's just scar 219 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: tissue from last year, and it kind of goes back 220 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: to something that we talked about, like just feel like 221 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: you've got to give Herbert a chance. Man, after what 222 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: he went through the last two years. You'd like to 223 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: see some pass pro that you're comfortable with, particularly on 224 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: the interior because of those quick losses and just nothing 225 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: can't do anything with that. So that end, I'm trying 226 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: to couch this like in the way of how I'm 227 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: sort of processing what I think the front office is doing. 228 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of they're doing. But in 229 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: the case of cool strange, like everyone will talk about 230 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: the numbers and the PFF grades, like if he didn't 231 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: do a lot of what Mike McDaniel and bush Berry wanted. 232 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have signed off on it, you know, they 233 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have said, yeah, go get this guy. So the 234 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: fact that you've got someone that was with them that 235 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: they believe they can bring and drop in between Beattish 236 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: and alt and feel really good out. If that's the 237 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: way it goes, then that's where I kind of ease 238 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: some concern there, because if you just kind of look 239 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: at it on its own independently, I think you're like, Okay, 240 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: it's you got Beattish for a discount. Linderbaum went for 241 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: twenty six per you got Beatish for ten. So may 242 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: you got all this extra money and you didn't reinvest 243 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: it in those positions that we thought you'd be able 244 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: to and take some of those bigger swings because you 245 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: got an affordable center. To me, it's probably scheme dependent 246 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: and a little bit more on Like you said, Look, 247 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: if Zion would rather live in Cleveland than Los Angeles 248 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: and play for the Browns instead of the Chargers, well 249 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: that's on him. I would find that hard to believe 250 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: in you. But who knows. I mean, things are weird, 251 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: I guess I Like I said, I would have liked 252 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: to have seen him back and have an opportunity to 253 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: play between Rashawn all season and be oddish, you know, 254 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: a viable solid center, but that's not going to happen. 255 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: So and forward, I think it's you know, it's it 256 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: goes beyond the offensive line. Do you have a good 257 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: pass pro, running back, full back, blocking, tight end, sixth 258 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: offensive like, all of that stuff is going to go 259 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: into and a viable run game. There is no better 260 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: blocker available than a run game. Once you have that, 261 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: it changes everything. And when you didn't have it, because 262 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: now as you got hurt, Amarion got hurt and all 263 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: got hurt and Slater and you had no running game, 264 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: it was really hard to run the ball. Yeah, you're 265 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: gonna get your your block knocked off. So I think 266 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: if you look at it through that lens, like, hey, 267 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: they attacked the run game, and it looks and feels 268 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: like they got that right health being good run games 269 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: should be really good, And that's going to go a 270 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: long way longer than any individual guard you could have 271 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: signed in protecting Justin Herbert and creating a pass game 272 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: that can have some explosives and not have the most 273 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: pressures the most hits and the most sacks, second most 274 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: sacks in the NFL. 275 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: Money if you were to do nothing else from this 276 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: point forward, and you just run that New England game back, 277 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: and you have Biattish in there, and you have Slater, 278 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: and you have all and you have Hampton, right, just 279 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: those four players, Like, that game goes differently, That game 280 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: goes markedly my opinion. The history of Mike McDaniel and 281 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: protecting you know, we we remember to for some of 282 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: these like brutal concussions that he's had, but he's been 283 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: hit less than most quarterbacks in the NFL over the 284 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: last four years. Yeah, Tua was sacked twenty four times 285 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: fewer than Herbert last year, and over the last four seasons, 286 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: Herbert has averaged two point five to seven sacks per 287 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: game to a one point eight to four. 288 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: That's almost a sack a game. That adds up. That 289 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: adds up. 290 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: So between having a running game and a scheme that 291 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: is built to protect the quarterback a little bit more, 292 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: I just I think that those are the things that 293 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: maybe need proper context in this moment, and. 294 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: I agree like that plan needs to take shape. 295 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: There needs to be a starting guard from the draft, 296 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: there has to be there has to be another veteran 297 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: that comes in on the interior. 298 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,359 Speaker 2: And I think that also. 299 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: Leaves room for maybe some other moves, like who's to 300 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: say a trade isn't in the works money, Like if 301 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: if the Chargers were in on Alec Pierce as reported, 302 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: and if they were in in Rashid Shaheed as reported, 303 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: like that leads me to believe that they're they're coveting 304 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: speed on the outside, and maybe maybe another weapon in 305 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: the passing game is coming in the fold as well. 306 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: Like I don't think that we can just pigeonhole ourselves 307 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: to say, hey, free agency is the only button you press. 308 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: They could trade, They could trade for a guy who 309 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: maybe is is unhappy in his current spot. That fits 310 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: what Mike McDaniel wants to do. 311 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, you know, forgive makes up was 312 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: doing games earlier today. But I don't think Darnell Mooney 313 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: has signed and yet you know, and he was cut, 314 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: And I think that kind of fits the category of speed, 315 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, I could see that being someone they're looking at. 316 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: I know aj Brown listed it. I think the way 317 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: the media shared it originally was that the Chargers were interested, 318 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: but instead was the other I think he's AJ had 319 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: listed the Charges as one of the teams that he 320 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: would be interested in going to. What I like to 321 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: have AJ Brown? Yes, very much so for all the 322 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: headaches that he is causing in Philadelphia, AJ Brown with 323 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, I would be comfortable with the number twenty 324 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: two pick for that most definitely. Now it's not just 325 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: the number twenty two pick, but it's probably a reworked 326 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: contract and all that money, and that's where things get 327 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: a little weird. But yeah, I think there's still some 328 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: speed available out there. I think he'll see some cuts. 329 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: I think you got to remember that second wave of 330 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: free agency tends to get a little more populated with 331 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: names that aren't out there yet, Like in terms of 332 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: the Guards, I know you've talked about the Tonio and 333 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: and whyatt Teller Zeitler's still out there. If he doesn't 334 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: have any suitors, maybe he caves and decides to come 335 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: to the West Coast. James Daniels obviously played with with 336 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels, so there's still some depth pieces to get there. 337 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I mean that the Jacks the 338 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: Jaguars essentially just came out and set it like, you know, 339 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: they want comp picks. They lose, you know, they're starting 340 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: middle linebacker, they lose, they're starting running back, They're losing 341 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: players like crazy, and they're like, yeah, we're good. We 342 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: think the twenty twenty seven draft is going to be 343 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: a special one and deep one and we want those compicks. 344 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: And so there may be a little bit of that there. 345 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case, though. We know that 346 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz has said it that he believes in the 347 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Compic formula and he wants the Compick formula. So maybe 348 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: he sees that potential three coming from o Way and 349 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: that one hundred million dollar contract, and I know we 350 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: haven't even addressed that yet, but like there may be 351 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: something to that and that they're just more comfortable. Essentially, 352 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: what you have traded. You traded Alowie and a fifth 353 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: for oh Way and you essentially get a third round 354 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: pick back. Like which you trade oh Way for a 355 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: third is the question? And I think based on what 356 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: the market was last year, that's kind of what you're 357 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: talking about. You're trading oh Way for a third round 358 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: pick after having traded for him with Gilman, a former 359 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: seventh rounder and a fifth round pick, and that's pretty 360 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: good upgrade to get a third out of a fifth 361 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: and a seventh. I know that people may think I'm 362 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: trying to twist this thing into a pretzel to make 363 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: it work. I thought, oh wait, at one hundred million 364 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: bucks was a little rich. At twenty five million per 365 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: was I did not expect it to get that high. 366 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: And when it did, I can understand maybe walking away 367 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: from that and now looking at edge in the draft 368 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: because it's a deep class and the fact that they 369 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: locked up Khalil, you know, put them in that position 370 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: where they could say, eh, I don't know about that. 371 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: I think I think we'll get in line for that 372 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: third round cop pick. 373 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: I did DC Radio three different stations a couple of 374 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: days ago to talk about ohway, but Beatish came up 375 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: every single time, and it was usually me just saying, hey, 376 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 3: in your opinion, why is Beyaddish no longer a Washington commander? 377 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: And the overwhelming sentiment was still just puzzled, puzzled as 378 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 3: to why they did it, because it didn't I mean, 379 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 3: they just give way one hundred million dollars. They had 380 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 3: the cap space to keep him. They was talking about maybe, 381 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: you know, a scheme change. Maybe the tape wasn't as 382 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 3: good last year, but they were five and twelve, so 383 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: nobody was very good last year. So overall, I think 384 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 3: people in Washington are still a little puzzled as to 385 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: why Beiatdash isn't still in Burgundy and Gold and he's 386 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: on the West coast with Jim Harbough Company. Now, the 387 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: O Way thing, it was just way too much money. 388 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: Like Tuley twy Polo two is gonna get a big deal. 389 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: He's twenty three years old. You know, Khalil coming back 390 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: that that was a priority. I mean, this is gonna 391 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 3: be his fifth year with the Chargers. We know what 392 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: that what that guy means to the room, and you 393 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: just said it like the edge class is deep this year. 394 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: So you know, like if it's not an offensive lineman 395 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 3: in round one, it could very well be an edge 396 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: like that Debt is probably the position where I'm looking 397 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: at outside of interior offensive line where they're gonna have 398 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: to beef up and you know, maybe they bring in 399 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: another veteran edge that's that's still out there in the 400 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: second or third wave. 401 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: But like I wish, I wish Adafe all the best. 402 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: It's you know, that. 403 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: What I was telling some of the guys in DC 404 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: is like, now, okay, he's getting past Rusher one money 405 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 3: now Tooley was helping him out. 406 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: Khalil was helping him out. 407 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 3: He didn't play that many stats, but he was pretty 408 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: productive in the stabs that he got. But he's not 409 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: going to have Tuli Khalil on the other side of 410 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: him in Washington. But he's twenty seven years old and 411 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: he was a great dude when he was here. Man, 412 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: I wish him all the best. 413 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you hit it. I think they looked 414 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: at and said, okay, always benefiting mostly from that NASCAR package. 415 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: That's where the majority of those pressures, the majority of 416 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: those sacks were coming from with Khalil and Toutley out there. 417 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: So you're gonna pay them the same amount as Benito 418 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: and heinz Allen. You've got to You've got to win, 419 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: like you've got to win all of your one on ones, 420 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: and you've got to win some of those double teams. 421 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think that was probably the concern. So you know, 422 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: the one thing I'll say is this is I'm I 423 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: want to make sure that I'm kind of being fair 424 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: and balanced here. I think the one thing to remember, 425 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: and the one thing that I think sometimes gets lost is, look, 426 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: the market's the market, man, It's just what it is, 427 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: like like either you're gonna you're gonna play, or you're 428 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: not gonna get a ticket for admission. Like you don't 429 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: get to you don't get to decide what the market 430 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: is if you say that, I think Oway' is a 431 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar player, twenty million dollar a year player, 432 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: and that's what I want to pay, and the market says, no, 433 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: it's not, that's that's not that's not this market. You know, 434 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: Oway is going to get twenty five million because Jonathan 435 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: Franklin Myers is getting twenty one, Rashaun Garry's getting twenty four, 436 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: you know, Treyson's getting twenty eight. And that's just the 437 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: reality of the market. So I appreciate you not thinking 438 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: he's a twenty five million dollars a year player, but 439 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: the market says he is. And so at that point 440 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: you just don't get to punch a ticket to get in. 441 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: You don't get to play. So I think that's something 442 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: that's just reality, and some teams are and look, it 443 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: rarely works out. Last year it did for the for 444 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots, Williams worked up. Yeah, but it very very 445 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: rarely works out when you're riding a bunch of big 446 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: checks to phil holes. Usually it's a specific player that 447 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: you have circled, and I think for the Chargers, they 448 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: probably had Linderbaum circled and then realized, Okay, we know 449 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that the Raiders are not going to let this guy 450 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: go and they're going to pay him whatever it takes. 451 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: And they did, and so we've got to pivot. And 452 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I give him credit for pivoting as quickly as they did, because, 453 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: as I said on that emergency pod, to go from 454 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: you know, a severe liability to not just competent but 455 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: above average center is as massive a jump as you 456 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: could take in an offseason at one position. Like that's 457 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: just even if we just focused on that move, it 458 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: is such an upgrade this offseason on the offensive line 459 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: that I think you'll be able to find something that's 460 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: level or close to level with Zion. I think that's 461 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: still maybe out there, and with Beckton only being available 462 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: half of the time, even if it's just cold strange 463 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: and he's out there, you know, for every game, and 464 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: you know what he's going to give you. With the 465 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: addition of Charlie Kohler and with the addition of the 466 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: return of a mari and Hampton full time, like it's 467 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: just it's so they're in such a better. 468 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: Position, yea. And rookies are coming, like rookies are coming. 469 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 3: Like, how shocked would you be if there wasn't a 470 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 3: starting guard that was drafted in rounds one, two or 471 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: three next month money. 472 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be very shocked. And I think I 473 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: think it's set up with tackles, how deep the tackle 474 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: position is with potentially wide receiver because there's not a 475 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers available in free agency, you saw 476 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: some trades, you know, for Pittman, Pierce ends up going 477 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: back to Indy, like Mike Evans deciding to go to 478 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers where maybe one of those receivers 479 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: could be available at twenty two. And now you can 480 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: trade back a little bit. And that's where that whole 481 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: sort of Procter pregnant basaunt this conversation can come up 482 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: with that first pick and then you pick off that 483 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: extra pick and you can continue to build depth and 484 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: get an edge in the second round, or get an 485 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: edge in that first run at the back end, and 486 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: now you've got an extra second. Maybe that's a little 487 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: bit higher, and there's just a million ways for this 488 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: thing to work out combo wise. 489 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: I don't remember if we talked about Keith Mitchell when 490 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel was was announced as the new offensive coordinator. 491 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: He was a restricted free agent at the time, but 492 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 3: just his speed six point three yards per Carrie, it 493 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 3: was on display throughout the course of his time with 494 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: the Ravens. I'll be it in spurts, but he's he's 495 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: the ideal like toy for Mike McDaniel to pair with 496 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: Kimani and Amarian and for those who think that, okay, 497 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna cut into Kimani. Like Kimmanti wasn't on the 498 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: team in week one, like he was released, he came 499 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: back on the team and they needed after being the 500 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: third or fourth string running back. He and he worked 501 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: wonder So depth is important, and to have a guy 502 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: who brings a little bit of a different flavor out 503 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: of the backfield, it's hard to have to account for 504 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: that speed and then on one on the other hand, 505 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: rather have Amari and Hampton, a big bruising back who 506 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: has who has speed as well, just you have a 507 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: lot of different flavors in the backfield. 508 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: Now, well, again, it's the best thing you could do 509 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: for you, for justin Herbert's health and safety is get 510 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: get an explosive running game. And when Keith Mitchell's on 511 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: the field, you've got to be absolutely terrified of him 512 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: having the potential to take that thing all the way. 513 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: And so that's it's just a different level of speed. 514 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: And I think we saw what Tim Money was able 515 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: to do when he was asked to step in for 516 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: a Marion, So you feel really good about that. And 517 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: then on top of that, you just I'm gonna pencil 518 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: in a healthy season for a Marion. I thought the 519 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: injury was a fluke injury, and unfortunately it cost him 520 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the season. But I'm gonna, you know, cross my fingers 521 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: and hope that he's going to be all right. And 522 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: that's essentially what Mike. That's the one sort of misnomer 523 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: about all of about all of these Kyle Shanahan Sean 524 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: McVay style offenses, they are all built on the run game. 525 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Like we think about them as these high flying, motion, 526 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: explosive sort of offenses, but in reality, it's all built 527 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: off a wide zone. Everything works off the run game. 528 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: And if you've got the run game rolling, then you 529 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: know that's where all those explosives come out of and 530 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: that's where all those passing yards come out of it. 531 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: But it all starts at being able to run the ball. 532 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: And this team is in a considerably better position to 533 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: be able to run the ball with their coordinator, their scheme, 534 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: and their additions this offseason. Not to mention the help 535 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: that we're expecting. 536 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: To arrive, super Bowl sixty one is coming to Los 537 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: Angeles and available now. 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I 553 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: guess depending on a rookie edge, that's a fifty to 554 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: fifty proposition. Maybe it would be maybe it would Behoove. 555 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: I should say the charge is to bring in a 556 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: veteran to kind of be behind Khalil into Ley as well. 557 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with the trades, it's tricky because they 558 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: only have five picks. You know, they didn't get that 559 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: comp six, so they're down to five picks. I don't 560 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 1: get the sense they want to trade they're one two 561 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: or their three, unless it would be for any elite, 562 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: elite level player, but you know, because they do need 563 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: some depth in some of these rooms. I love that 564 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 1: they were able to knock out their special teams, you know, 565 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: and get Harris back and get especially to get del 566 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Sean Phillis backs, because I thought he was huge. I 567 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: thought Phi, yeah right, I thought he was great and 568 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, obviously one of the best, if not the 569 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: best special teams player in the league. But also I 570 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: thought he played great in his linebacking snaps, so and 571 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: then to get your gunner back, and Dean is one 572 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: of the best gunners in the league. And I think 573 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: just health wise, if he's healthy, he could also help 574 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: in the depth in that cornerback room a little bit 575 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: as well. He's more of a physical player. I think, 576 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, with Saint just leaving, I think he went 577 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: to the Packers. You know, you're going to need to 578 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: try to find a little bit more of that physicality 579 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: at the corner position. And they've been able to do that. 580 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, they've been really good bargain shopping, but they 581 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: have not kind of technically replaced that interior defensive line yet. 582 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, there's still some stuff to do, and considering 583 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: how much money they still have, it certainly feels like 584 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: they've got to continue to try to evaluate and find 585 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: some of those values in free agency by throwing it 586 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: at numbers. Remember when Jesse joined us and he talked about, oh, 587 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: instead of one, it's like, Hey, we're going to piece 588 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: together these like three defensive alignment and see if we 589 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: can get one Coon Afford and I think that may 590 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: be what they're going to end up ha it do. 591 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tito goes to the Cowboys, so you lose another 592 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman there. We talked about the edge, how 593 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 3: about the division, Like what the Raiders are doing, the 594 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: amount of money that they're spending right now, we see 595 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: a low Hei is going back to the AFC West 596 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 3: with the Kansas City Chiefs. 597 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: What do you make it? 598 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: Some of the moves that we're seeing in the AFC West, 599 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: they kind of shift the landscape just a little bit. 600 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, if Kenneth Walker's healthy, that's a scary addition, 601 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: as you know, as the world knows, Super Bowl MVP, 602 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: a guy that could take it to the house on 603 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: any given touch. I think I know that, Like they're 604 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: not saying anything, and it leads you to think they're 605 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: not going to bring Tyreek killback. But to me, it 606 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: just makes too much sense. They just they don't care 607 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: about the off field stuff, and so I think if 608 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: you're comfortable with that, then obviously Tyreek coming off an 609 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: injury probably not going to be a big money deal. 610 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they took a swing at that. 611 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: And now you're back to the Kansas the Chiefs with 612 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: serious speed and serious issues in that run game. They 613 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: needed it desperately. They have not had an explosive runner 614 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: since Jamal Charles, So to have that now where you've 615 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: got to be a little bit more cautious in the 616 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: run game, it's going to make things a lot tougher 617 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: against them offensively. Defensively, they got just mauled, which we 618 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: knew was gonna, you know, was coming. They lose both 619 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: their starting corners, they lose defensive linemen. So I think 620 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: on that side of the. 621 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Ball, they still to the Commanders. 622 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Chanal Dana like a lot of that, you know, and 623 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: obviously they're almost their whole secondary. They brought in a 624 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: LOWI But yeah, the Raiders, I think are I commend them. 625 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: You know, they spend a lot more on defense than 626 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to, especially if they end 627 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: up keeping Max, which they can do. I mean, they 628 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: still have thirty five million bucks on top of Max's 629 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: salary even when they absorb it again. But I think 630 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: to pair a young quarterback with an elite center to 631 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: have the weapons like they do, and Brock Bauers and 632 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 1: Ashton gent D get someone like Naylor, a dependable receiver 633 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: that you know is going to catch the ball when 634 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: it's thrown them, they got I think ten picks. So yeah, 635 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders are off to a really good start in 636 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: this particular iteration. And it all depends on what you 637 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: think of Mendoza. I think he's going to be solid. 638 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good quarterback. So yeah, 639 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I think they've gotten considerably better with the moves that 640 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: they've made in the Broncos. I think are in a 641 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: very similar situation as the Chargers, where they're like, yeah, 642 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: we're pretty comfortable with what we got going, we're looking 643 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: for value and if we got to run it back, 644 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: we'll run it back. And they have the number one 645 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: record in the AFC, and they're pretty comfortable feeling like 646 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: they can do that again. And I think the Chargers 647 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: look get it, like we won eleven games back to back, 648 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: and we feel like we're a better team today than 649 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: we were, you know at the end of the season, 650 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: even with the loss of Oway, just with the additions 651 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: they've made, with the coordinator they've hired, with the help 652 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: they expect to get back, and it's like, yeah, we're 653 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: good winning eleven games again. I think the one question 654 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: is do you feel like you have those elite players 655 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: to win playoff games. When the talent level goes from 656 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: here to here and you've got to match that talent level. 657 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: It's one thing to win eleven games in a regular season, 658 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: it's another thing to win playoff games. And I think 659 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: that's probably what they're kicking around right now. 660 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: But you remember when we were in Indy and I 661 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: was I needed to change my flight to get home 662 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: a little bit earlier, and I connected in Vegas. Then 663 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: instead of wherever I was, klink Kubiak set across from me. Oh, 664 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: how funny boy set across from me? Just me, man, 665 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: it's cool, just like us. 666 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Southwest Row one. 667 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: There you go exactly that. Hey, look, when it comes 668 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: to the combine in Indianapolis, your flights are limited. Chances 669 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: are you're probably not getting the private jet because you've 670 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: got so many people out there, so you're offline commercial 671 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: and if Southwest is the window to get you, and 672 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: I love Southwest, I appreciate it. I'm fine with most airlines. 673 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: But if that's going to get you home the quickest 674 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: way possible by all means, get out there and maybe 675 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: plan some nefarious of discontent with those guys when they're Oh, 676 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't like the way that looks and that I 677 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't do that if I were you. But yeah, 678 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: it's impressive what they're doing so far. 679 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, these days, you never know where we're gonna 680 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: have a podcast. There could be an emergency one popping 681 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: up at any time. I know you're in Chicago, and well, 682 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: we'll keep tabs on everything free agency here over the 683 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: next seven to ten days. You may get one before 684 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: our typical Thursday Friday time next week. But anything else 685 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: to add before we get out of here, brother, no. 686 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: Uh, maybe have an emergency pod. I'd be very excited 687 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: about that. Let's let's sign a trade for let's get 688 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: an edge, let's get a receiver, let's get a guard, 689 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: and let's uh, let's get another one of these here 690 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: and in the next couple of days. I'd be all 691 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: about it. 692 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 3: Love it all right for buddy, I'm Chris. Has been 693 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: charges weekly presented by Spilittero. 694 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: I'll talk to you so