1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and out 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: podcast at it again and we have some breaking news 3 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: and it's gonna revolve the Texans on multiple fronts. A 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: quarterback who wants out, a coach who came out of nowhere. Uh, 5 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: so they have a head coach. We'll see how much 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: longer they have a quarterback. We'll dive into Tom Brady. 7 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Someone asked me a pretty simple question, what makes Tom 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: Brady great? I thought we'd dive into it. The Aaron 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers saga slash situation. Uh uh, some thoughts there. Jared 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Goff and the RAMS is now officially a disaster, no 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: way around it. They can't stand the guy. Uh. We'll 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: discuss that Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is the 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Instagram handle you guys know the drill slide up in 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: the d m s And we have a little middle 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Cooff mail bag at the end of the show. Also, 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: anyone who has left a review on Apple iTunes, I 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Tip my hat to you. If you haven't, 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: I would, Uh, I would appreciate the help. Just leave 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: a review helps the show grow. And uh, these algorithm 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: things that yeah, I'm not even quite sure. You know 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: I can't keep up with with everything that's going on 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: in the technology world, but I just know it helps, 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: So thank you very much. Let's start with the Houston 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Texans and Deshaun Watson, who I guess made it official 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: even though we've been talking about it for weeks. He 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: wants to go bye bye audios, Sayonara, get me the 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: hell out of here and listen. Like, we all have 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: our reasons, fair not fair? Is he doing the right 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: thing if you do not want to be anywhere and 30 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: you can't stand the owner like I, I mean, I 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: can relate to that. We've all probably been places where 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: we did not want to be anymore, and not all 33 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: of us have the ability sometimes to ask out right. 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: Not not every situation. We can just bounce and we'll 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: see how this plays out. But the Texans, in my opinion, 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: are going to hit the reset button and we'll dive 37 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: into the coach here in a second. But to me, 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Just blow it up. Now. Does Deshaun 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Watson look like a bad guy? You know, historically when 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: guys demanded a trade, you know, it depends on the situation, right. 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: James Harden basically quit on his team got fat and 42 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: then immediately got traded and got skinny again, and we're like, 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little shady. But if you can't 44 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: stand the owner and can't stand the coach, you know, 45 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: I think historically we've always been like be a pro. 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: Now with Deshaun Watson, it's not like they're practicing or 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: doing anything. So without you know, the league going on, 48 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: it's not like the offseason in the sense of their 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: O t A is going on right now, it's hard 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: to tell how hardcore is stances. All we are reading 51 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and learning about this is online and from all accounts 52 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: and all reports, he despises the owner. And then I 53 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: read he wants to go to the Jets, like, hey, 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: de Sean, have you seen their ownership? We might want 55 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: to go to the Dolphins. Have you seen Steven Ross's 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: history as an owner. It's not like he's lined up 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: to go to Robert Kraft. So I I think it's 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: easy to be like, I want to go to this guy. 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: What what the hell is the difference? You've been doing 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: way more winning in Houston. But we get our minds 61 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: made up. In his mind, clearly he does not want 62 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: to be associated. Could it be with Jack easterby this 63 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: preacher turned power hungry executive. Could it be that he 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be associated with the Patriot guy anymore? Sure, 65 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: here's where I think it becomes complicated. Our team is 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna be interested in Deshaun Watson. Of course they are. 67 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: You'd be insane to not be interested in a Pro 68 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: Bowl a quarterback in his mid twenties. But if you're 69 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the Texans and you've seen recently Jamal Adams, Jalen Ramsey, 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, I guess Khalil Max and how the Raiders, 71 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: uh did a pick swap for a second and a third, 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: so let's not include them, But guys going for two 73 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: ones and a two pretty nuts looking back that Khalil 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: Mack didn't go for two ons in a two, that 75 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: the Bears got a second round or out of it. 76 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: But like that, that to me is what goes for 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl blue chip position players. Well, what do we know. 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: It's a quarterback league. A quarterback is infinitely more important 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: than those individuals because when those individuals get hurt. Jamal 80 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Adams gets hurt, the line in the game doesn't change, 81 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: ye when the quarterback does. You know, if a backup 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: quarterback has to come sometimes that's a seven point swing, 83 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: and we didn't need Vegas to tell us like how 84 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: important that position is. It trumps every other position. So 85 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: this guy, you could argue, if Jamal and those guys 86 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: are going for two ones and a two, is he 87 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: worth four ones and maybe a two? Now you could argue, 88 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: give me four ones, like that probably be enough. And 89 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I think just if you just do it that way, 90 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: of course you can. But when I put myself in 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: these other teams shoes, is anyone gonna give up four 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,119 Speaker 1: ones for Deshaun Watson? Because part of giving up four 93 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: ones is you're not gonna get any cost control assets 94 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: moving forward. You know in the draft that first round pick, 95 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: but you're also not gonna have AMMO to ever make trades, like, 96 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're kind of good and you 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: need a wide receiver. Here's pick twenty two for Stefon Dicks. 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we want to go trade for 99 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: a blue chip defensive player. Here's two ones for Jalen Ramsey. 100 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: You don't have any of that, so it does complicate 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: the situation. He's also already been paid, makes a lot 102 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: of money, which no one has a problem paying a 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: guy million dollars when they're a pro bowler. But with 104 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: all these teams and caps that stuations, it makes it 105 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: a little, you know, complicated. Also, if you're the Texans, 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: you're not just gonna give him away, Like, it doesn't 107 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: make that much sense to trade Deshaun Watson to a 108 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: play like let's say the Colts, We'll give you three 109 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: ones and two twos. You'd be like, then you're just 110 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna win because your team's already stacked. I'm not doing that. 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: You could argue the only two options for teams that 112 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: let's assume they'd be interested would be the Dolphins and 113 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: the Jets, because then if you trade with the Dolphins, 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: you just recoup your pick back and you could start 115 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: over and draft a quarterback. The Jets have the number 116 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: two overall pick. You could even trade Deshaun Watson for 117 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: Sam Donald get you know, and in three ones or something. 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: To me, those are the most logical destinations. And I 119 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: I do think DeShawn is in for a little bit 120 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: of a wake up call that he's leaving his organization 121 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: for organizations that let's let's stop acting like these other 122 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: teams are the Yankees. You know if he goes to 123 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: the Dolphins or the Jets. I mean, the Jets have 124 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: been an embarrassment for over a decade. That's not an opinion, 125 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: that's a fact. I mean the Dolphins, we we wanted 126 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: to throw a parade for them. They missed the playoffs 127 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: this year. There were seven seats right now. You put 128 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson on them, they'd be good. They'd be better, clearly. 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean they won what ten games? But if they 130 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: trade for de Shaun Watson, how do they get a 131 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver because they'd have to surely trade their picks. 132 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: My gut, though, is ca serio. And this leads into 133 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: David Culley. They're gonna blow this mother up. And I 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: think that's the right move. It's an easy one. I 135 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: would consider it a BP fastball. The guy wants out. 136 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: These patriot people are obsessed with culture. They hired David Kelly, 137 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: who I worked with with the Eagles. Nice guy, good position, coach, 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: head coach. Never in a million years would I have 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: seen that. Honestly, I think that's insane. But here's my theory. 140 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: I have two theories. One that they really wanted to 141 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: hire Josh McCown as their head coach. They realized the blowback, 142 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: even though I think that's overrated. Who gives a ship 143 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: what the media says, you know, or even the fans 144 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: like they're gonna watch no matter what you know? You can't. 145 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: Social media was up in arms over interviewing Josh mccount. 146 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: My response would be, adults aren't on Twitter. Who cares? 147 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Now if you talk to him and you realize, like 148 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: this is nuts, he can't be a head coach right 149 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: now because it is a massive transition from being a 150 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: player to just becoming a head coach. Right You've never 151 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: managed the staff, You've never managed unless you run a 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: business on the side for the last decade. It's a 153 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: big transition, but it's a transition that high level guys 154 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: could probably seamlessly make. But he might need a year 155 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: or two be on the staff, learn from what's going on, 156 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: and then be groomed to take over. David Kelly, a 157 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: sixty five year old never called plays lifetime position coach, 158 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: is in a position where he never would have been 159 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: a head coach. So you put him out there when 160 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: you're basically gonna tank and blow it up, and you 161 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: know he's sixty sixty eight, You remove him and implement 162 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: Josh McCown when you're ready to kind of make your 163 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: jump with all these picks. That to me is my theory. 164 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: So what was David Culley gonna do turn down the 165 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to become a head coach? Of course not I wouldn't. 166 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't blame him at all. But let's not act 167 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: like they're hiring him because they think, quote unquote is 168 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: the best guy on the market. He's not. I think 169 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: they want to hire Josh McCown eventually, and the way 170 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: to get him ready is to basically put Culley in 171 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: a position if you trade Watson and trade j. J. Watt, 172 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: there two best assets to just absolutely suck and just 173 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: almost throwing Cully out to the wolves, and then when 174 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: the dust settles in a couple of years, you can 175 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: replace him with Josh McCown. It wasn't exactly like this, 176 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: but the Cleveland Browns did that with Hugh Jackson. Now, 177 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson was an awful coach. I'd be shocked at 178 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: David Kelley is as bad as Hugh Jackson. But Hugh 179 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: Jackson called plays at a really high level. David Culley 180 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: is not. David Culley was the passing game coordinator for 181 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: the team with the least receptions, team that can't pass 182 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: the ball. Now, that might be on the quarterback, that 183 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: might be on the coordinator, but that was his role. 184 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: And he's just a lifetime wide receiver coach. So you 185 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: throw David Culley out there and you just you let 186 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: him take all the bullets. Right, It's it's a shitty situation. 187 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: But as what's his name says, and madman, that's what 188 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: the money's for. And he just got a paycheck and 189 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: a contract that is dramatically more money than he's ever 190 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: paid in his life. And guys like David Culley who 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: have been in the league twenty five years, I bet 192 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: he was making a million bucks in Baltimore. The one 193 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: thing we always talked about, like the enemy is getting screwed. 194 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: And clearly people don't like Eric B. Enemy for whatever reason. 195 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never met the guy. The league 196 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: just does not want to hire him, right because I mean, 197 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: the Texans just hired a black guy and it was 198 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: at Eric B. Enemy. But the victim thing with Eric B. Enemy, 199 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: here's the one thing I will say, he makes a 200 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: million dollars maybe more like it's not like you know 201 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: some when people are getting screwed, it's like, God, this 202 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: guy is not getting a promotion. You know that the 203 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: difference between fifty and a hundred fifty thou dollars life changing. 204 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: Like this guy is a millionaire, you know, like it's 205 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: not his life. Isn't that bad. He's the right hand 206 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: man for the best team in the league, probably about 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: to win back to back championships. And who in their 208 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: right mind would want the Texans job. So if it 209 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: came down to, like, you get the Texans job, I 210 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: would not touch that bad boy because they are going 211 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: to suck. So the erik the enemy thing the league 212 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: is spoken. They don't like the guy. All these new 213 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: g m s wouldn't touch him. The Texans went with 214 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: David Culley because I think really they want Josh McCown 215 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson can't stand cal McNair and uh yeah, 216 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: get get ready for Tanka Palooza in Houston. Let's dive 217 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: into something that I think someone DM me this and 218 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: it got me thinking because it was such a basic 219 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: question and we never really talked about it because we're 220 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: always talking. Always wins m v P Super Bowls. Tom 221 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: Brady the goat, that's all. Tom Brady the goat. Someone 222 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: dm me with the basic question, the simple question of 223 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: what makes Tom Brady so good? Like actually what makes 224 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: him such a great football player? And it got me 225 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: thinking if anyone in the books really famous. She did 226 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: a ted talk. Angela Duckworth wrote a book on the 227 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: trait that all successful people have in common, and most people, 228 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: I think would assume it's talent, it's intellectual capacity. And 229 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: what she came up with, it's the name of the 230 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: book is grit And I think grit encompasses a relentless nature, 231 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: a determination, uh an ability to battle through the shitty 232 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: times right, andy do frame crawling through the hither sewer 233 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: right and anyone that can take you know, kind of 234 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: gets Listen. Life throws you curve balls. Whether you're a 235 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: football player, whether you're a businessman, whether you're a family man, 236 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, right, nothing is easy. And the people 237 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: that consistently are most most successful. Think about all the 238 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: people you know in your life that you would qualify 239 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: as really successful, whether it's a business owner, whether it's 240 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: you know, high level employee somewhere, one of your buddies, whatever. 241 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Maybe to yourself, I think most people, and it's true, 242 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: have that relentless nature encompassing grit. Right, clearly he has that. 243 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: You know, he's known to be one of the late 244 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: round picks, becoming one of the gray quarterbacks of all time, 245 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: arguably the greatest. I think he is the greatest, but 246 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: I think there are several things that really stand out 247 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: before we get to him as a player. Now, to 248 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: play in the NFL at quarterback, you're gonna need some 249 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: just basic characteristics, right, just being able to throw a football. 250 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: And I think everyone who makes in the NFL has 251 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: the arm ability. Now there are clearly stronger arms than 252 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: other and Brady, we'll get into his arm it's well 253 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: above average. I think Brady's discipline with his TV twelve diet, 254 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: with everything that he encompasses, what he eats, is elite. 255 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: Like if that if that was on my scattering report, 256 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I'd give that like a plus plus plus discipline. Anyone 257 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: that's read about anyone in the military, right Navy seals 258 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: people doing anything under that umbrella. Discipline is like one 259 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: of the number one things you have to have. The 260 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: mental discipline that Tom Brady had, as with his body, 261 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: which is his money maker, is as good as it 262 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: gets right. And they always said this about Tiger Woods right, 263 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: his ability, his work ethic, his discipline of getting up 264 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: every day at the same time to work out and 265 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: then hit balls and then play and then work out 266 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: again and then hit balls again. It was just like, 267 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: this guy is a machine. I think at forty three 268 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: years old, Brady is an absolute machine. With the way 269 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: he takes care of his body. We can say it's 270 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: a weird way with David Guerrero and the t V 271 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,479 Speaker 1: twelve methods, but it works. It's it can't even be disputed. 272 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: And to piggyback off that, I think his work ethic 273 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: and I think this speaks to the great quarterbacks of 274 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: his era. When I think Brady, I think Manning, even 275 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: though Brady was better, but both those two guys, you 276 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: hear anyone who worked in a building with them, their 277 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: work ethic is unparalleled. And I would put Drew Brees 278 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: under this too. I mean, we've all heard the stories. 279 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I've lived it. The coaching hours right, leaping in the 280 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: office seven days a week, long days. Being an NFL 281 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: quarterback and elite NFL quarterback, you have to have that 282 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: same You're on the same times table like you were 283 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: putting in eight hour work weeks. I'm not even talking 284 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: about game day. I'm talking about preparing to play. Your 285 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: body lifting, the practices, the film study, the game plan, 286 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, implementing the game plan during that week. 287 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: You're a massive part of that. Another huge check for Brady. Uh. 288 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Here's what makes Brady special for being this weirdo. And 289 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: when I say weirdo, it's it's respectable eating the food. 290 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: But most people in the NFL an have avocado ice cream. 291 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: You know what, Brady's offensive linemen are eating chocolate chip 292 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: ice cream. You know what, Mike Evans is probably eating 293 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: a burrito. I bet Devin White is just grubbing, Like 294 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: when when you're burning calories and you're in your twenties, 295 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: you can eat whatever you want. I'll never forget being 296 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: with the Eagles looking at de Shawn's play lunchtime. She's 297 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: like burger and fries, and he was the fastest guy 298 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: in the league. So it's just no one's really doing 299 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: what Brady is doing the pliability stuff. Maybe Gronk, but 300 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: most of these players lifting hard. So it's it's there 301 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: like doing the opposite of what Tom is. Yet Tom 302 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: even at forty three years old. Even with all these 303 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: pelts on the wall and all the success and all 304 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: the fame still comes across is like this humble, down 305 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: to earth, blue collar guy, and he's very relatable. I 306 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say he's one of the greatest 307 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: teammates in the history of team sports. And I for 308 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the most part, when guys get really famous, they almost 309 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: feel out of touch to their teammates. And whenever you 310 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: hear that. I've never heard one person, one former Patriot, 311 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: say a urst word, bad thing about Tom Brady. Not one. 312 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: These people with Tampa go above and beyond talking about him. 313 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: I heard Jason light On with Peter King saying that, 314 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: like god, he just he's the most humble superstar probably 315 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: in the history of the sport. You just walked by 316 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: him down the hallway, you think you're like talking to 317 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: a practice squad, which is how nice he is to everybody. 318 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: That is a special attribute that you almost have to 319 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: have at quarterback because you are so dependent on others. 320 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, this is not basketball. You can't just do 321 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: it yourself. You can't be Michael Jordan or Kobe or Lebron. 322 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: It's like carry your team to a championship. You need 323 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: people to block for you. You need running backs to 324 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: run hard, you need wide receivers to run the right routes. 325 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: You need the defense to be inspired by you like 326 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: you have to inspire. Same deal with the coach. That's 327 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: why being a quarterback is so hard. Remember Carson Palmer 328 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: told me when I interviewed him like a year ago, 329 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: that I think he missed most every day walked in 330 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: the building the way the world was on his shoulders. 331 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: Let's face it, most of us when we feel a 332 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: little pressure or stress, we crack quarterbacks and really coaches. 333 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: But the starting quarterback, once you're of his level, the 334 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: pressure is a mens on a daily basis. I'm not 335 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: talking Sunday on game day. I'm talking Wednesday at walk through. 336 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking Saturday night at the team hotel, getting ready 337 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: for the game. It's just I can't relate to that. 338 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: I think most players in the NFL would tell you, Yeah, 339 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: it's just like I'm fighting from my job every year. 340 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: It's an intense job. I mean, it's obviously encompasses physically, 341 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: emotionally everything I have, But like, I'm not counted on 342 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: quite like the quarterback in terms of the entire cities 343 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: looking at this guy. It's hard, you know, and he's 344 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: great at that most underrated part about him. Then I 345 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: just we don't naturally talk about he wants to be coached. 346 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: He yearns to be coached. He wants you to hold 347 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: into a high standard. He's used to it, been around 348 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: Belichick for twenty years. It's always what they said was 349 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the best part about Tim Duncan. He was you could 350 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: coach him the hardest. And when you can coach your 351 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: star player, who's the best player ever, the hardest, makes 352 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: coach of the rest of the team pretty easy. If 353 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: I can yell at Tom Brady, I sure as hell 354 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: can yell at Mike Evans or Devin White, Right, it 355 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: just sets the tone for the entire organization. It's not like, oh, 356 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: they're just given Tom a pass here. Oh there's there's 357 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Tom screwing up again. No, it's not. He doesn't want 358 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: it like that. He's obsessed with football, and I think sometimes, 359 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: like on social media, people always act like balance is 360 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: the key. Balance, Balance, balance. Knew a couple of really 361 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: successful people growing up, friends, parents and grandparents, growing up 362 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: obviously being around professional athletics, you know, being around coach 363 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: Reid Um, you're becoming friends with just different people in 364 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: the league that have had success, knowing like Howie and 365 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: Veach and even guys that do different things in Lewis 366 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: Riddick now from Monday Night football. These guys are obsessed 367 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: with football. Anyone worth their salt. I think in any 368 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: big time industry is obsessed with that business and being 369 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: the best in striving too, and people like, well, you're 370 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a family men, Yeah, you have to, that's 371 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: part of lot. But people that take their job like 372 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: beyond seriously usually do pretty well. Like that's the price 373 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: of admission for the big time industries and part of 374 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL. If you're not obsessed, it'll eventually 375 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: weeds out. And most players are all in on football. 376 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Most would be strong a decent large percentage because you 377 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: have to be. It's it's too demanding of a job. 378 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: I think Tom takes that to like the you know, 379 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: nth degree, like times fifty. It's just it's crazy how 380 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: much he's addicted to this sport. Why let's roll it back. 381 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: Why is he so disciplined with his food, Why does 382 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: he work so hard? Why is he the first guy 383 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: in the building the last guy out. Why does he 384 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: make such a big effort to get along with his 385 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: teammates Because he's obsessed with the game and obsessed ultimately 386 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: with winning, and to win, you have to do all 387 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. And then from a football perspective, listen, I 388 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: mean he's six five, he's huge. He has a big 389 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: arm that I'd say, you know, in his peak, he 390 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: was probably throwing like seven if we do the baseball analogy, 391 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: and now he's throwing, he's still throwing hard, so he can. 392 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: He definitely can play outside. Clearly is the greatest cold 393 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: weather quarterback of all time. Well, if you can play outside, 394 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: it's not very hard to play inside, which he can 395 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: do pretty easily warm weather situations. His pocket presence and 396 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: instincts are elite, right. His understanding of pressure movement in 397 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: a small radius is just top notch, and it has 398 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: to be because he's he can't run away, but he 399 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: has mastered playing within that little that little area that 400 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: in football you call the pocket. Like I said, his 401 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: arm strength is above average. There's not a throw in 402 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: the NFL he hasn't been able to make for twenty 403 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: plus years. His poise also, and just moxie playing the position, 404 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: which is somewhat of an intangible but I think based 405 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: on when there's pressure, tight spots down seven like it all, 406 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: he's always completely under control. And for a guy that 407 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: can have some like mental blow ups and when I 408 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: say mental blow ups, like dropping some f bombs, coming 409 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: off the field screaming as coaches, he gets it back 410 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: to like pretty neutral quick. He is not Mr hoot 411 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: and hollering and then he's on the field screaming on 412 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: the next series. He comes back to neutral quick because 413 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: you have to be he there's an amp. There's a 414 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: baseline level of focus that it takes for every snap 415 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: as a quarterback. If not, you'll lose his His toughness 416 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: is underrated now. Is he sitting in there and getting 417 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: blasted now? Maybe like he would have ten years of 418 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: course not, but is is toughness. You don't dominate at 419 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: this level at that position in twenty plus years in 420 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: New England, go on the road in New Orleans in 421 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Lambeaus tough and his elite. It's football i Q. Now 422 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: part of football i Q when you've been playing this long. 423 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: He's added to it over the years. And back to 424 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: the obsession when you just addicted to something, you're gonna 425 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: constantly be learning about it. And he was with arguably 426 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time and Josh and Bill O'Brien, 427 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: Like he's been around a lot of good coaches and 428 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: everything they do in New England. His football, like que 429 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: was off the charts, you know, Like that's the Tom Brady, 430 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: the Drew Brees, the Peyton Mannings. It's like got it. 431 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they just can't be any smarter at football. 432 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: They're only limitations are physically like that. Just Drew got 433 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: to the point where he couldn't stay healthy and he 434 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: couldn't make the throws. Paid man, he got to the 435 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: point where he couldn't make the throws. The difference Tom 436 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Brady and those two guys. Now, he's better than those 437 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: two guys. But he can still make all the throws, 438 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: whether it's a go route, whether it's a deep out route, 439 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: whether it's a deep comeback from the opposite hash Like, 440 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: he still has the armstrang. Those guys stopped being able 441 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: to do that. That's why they both retired. I guess 442 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: Breeze hasn't officially retired yet. Yeah, I mean, he's just 443 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: he's he's he's the rare. He's a machine because remember 444 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: we talked about Tiger Woods like that, like he's a machine, 445 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: but no one really like he's like not really human 446 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: 's like this machine. But he's also if he invited 447 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: you over to his house for beers, I think you 448 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: can have a pretty easy conversation with him, Like he 449 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: just he seems like a pretty down to earth, like, hey, 450 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: you just want to bring over a twelve pack of 451 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Corpse Light and just watch whatever's on TV and bullshit, 452 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Like he can do that, and that's it makes him 453 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: very unique. Home playoff home NFC Championship game for the 454 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: first time of this five and he loses to Tom Brady, 455 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: so kicking the dick right, And we didn't talk really 456 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: about the game beside the floor fourth down call. We 457 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: just talked about Rogers status in this situation. And I 458 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: do think he brought into light because I watched him 459 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: talk with Pat McAfee and he claimed that listen, I'm 460 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: just talking about what what the reality is with everyone 461 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, that there is a finite time that's 462 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: gonna come to an end. I don't control my future, 463 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: and I learned that the moment they drafted Jordan's Love, 464 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's a good life lesson for everyone. 465 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: And Aaron one of the most talented quarterbacks we've ever seen. 466 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: The Packers built their organization around him. It would be 467 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: he might not be human if he didn't feel somewhat 468 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: of a god. I'm untouchable. They basically gave him a 469 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, you know, guaranteed they paid him a 470 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars within like a two year span from 471 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: like eighteen and nineteen, made a ton of money. It's like, 472 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm one of the highest paid guys in league history. 473 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: At the time he signed it, he was or might 474 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: have been two behind. Russell can't remember. I'm one of 475 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: the best players in league history, and this is my franchise. 476 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: And then the two twenty draft comes, they take Jordan 477 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: Love and he was probably show shocked. And we all 478 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: sometimes need a little, you know, a good shake, a 479 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: good wake up call. It happened to me when I 480 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: was fired in the NFL, and I was like thirty 481 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: years old. It's like, damn, life coming out came at 482 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: me fast. I didn't expect to go anywhere. And it happens. 483 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: It happens to us all Corona this year. How many 484 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: people do you know that had just businesses that were humming. 485 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: I thought they were untouchable. Hell, some of the biggest 486 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: businesses in America, Disney, all the casinos, Boom Vegas. Vegas 487 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: always makes money. I went to Vegas over Corona. When 488 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: I was staying at the Bellagio. I went to this 489 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: pizza joint. I forget his name, its name, it's in 490 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: the plazio and the guy that runs the pizza joint, 491 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I started bullshit with him because I hate Corona and 492 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: I just spied the lockdowns, and I was talking to 493 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: him about the situation of you know, how much business 494 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: he's losing, and he was saying, you know, they're fifty 495 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: or it might have been fifty to sixty restaurants in 496 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: America of this pizza chain. And he said, of the fifty, 497 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: forever we were the number one. It wasn't even close. 498 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: And he's like, right now during Corona, we're dead last. 499 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: It just shows you in a million years, would have 500 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: been like, well, how's this pizza chain ever gonna not dominate? Right? 501 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: You'd be like, they're in Vegas. People are always in Vegas, 502 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: and then boom Corona. You can't travel. People ain't gonna 503 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: go to Vegas. And it's like you gotta wear a 504 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: mask at the table to gamble. That's gonna cut out, 505 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, half the inventory right there. And all of 506 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: a sudden they're getting their as kicked. Disney, what are 507 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: they in? Uh, theme parks? We can't go to theme parks. 508 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Cruise liners, those are stopped. And he's just you never know. 509 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: Two thousand twenty was a fantastic year from the standpoint 510 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: of it's a good life lesson to just realize you 511 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: always gotta be on your toes. You can never get 512 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: fat and happy because you know, a year ago at 513 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: this time, if you would have said the word Corona, 514 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: I would have said, get me to Lin too. Right 515 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: now you say it, I'd be like God, the thing 516 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: that you know through our entire world for a loop. 517 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: And Rogers, I mean, the moment they drafted Jordan's Love, 518 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: his jaw had to hit the floor, like did that 519 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: really just happen? Even after a quote unquote you know 520 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: down year for Rogers, they just made the NFC Championship game. 521 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: He was thirty six years old, they had just paid him, 522 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: and it just kind of rattled him. Now he said 523 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: on McAfee that, yeah, I don't expect to go anywhere, 524 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not planning on demanding a trade or anything. 525 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: You only get true leverage in life in the business 526 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: world so many times, and as an athlete where your career, 527 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: like my career in talking, could last until I can't 528 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: talk anymore. Right if if I have a podcast from 529 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: a broadcaster, my career could be fifty years. Marv Albert H. B. 530 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: Brown is eight six and he's calling NBA games. You 531 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: can just talk forever. Aaron Rodgers football career will end. 532 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: It is even right now if he's got five six 533 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: years left, is on the home stretch, right, he's on 534 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: the back nine. Well, so right now he has some leverage. 535 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: He's the best player in the league. He just won 536 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: the m v P and I heard today like he's 537 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: out of guarantees in his contract, so he might as 538 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: well flex his muscles a little bit, like you guys, 539 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: you want to take care of me a little bit, 540 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: or he could make it uncomfortable for them. And I 541 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: don't blame him for using and using his muscles a 542 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: little bit because they are way more dependent on him 543 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: than he is on them. Because if you put Aaron 544 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers on most teams in the league, they're in pretty 545 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: good shape. If I take Aaron Rodgers away from the Packers, 546 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: they're fucked. And he knows that now. He knows like, 547 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: they're not gonna trade me tomorrow, and they're not gonna 548 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: trade me, but I'm gonna rattle some cages. And That's 549 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: what I said on Monday. And the more I heard 550 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: him talk like he knows what he's doing, wants a 551 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: little more cash to be guaranteed, he makes a lot 552 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: of money, but he's already not the highest paid player 553 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: in the league. And again they did this to themselves. 554 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: They you know, the stock thing that's going on right now, 555 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: people shorten and game stop going up. They shorted Aaron Rodgers, 556 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't blame them. I was like, I would 557 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: have done that too. You know what. The what Aaron 558 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Rodgers was the equivalent of the redditck guys. It's like, oh, 559 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: you're shorting him, We're gonna buy more. And Rogers came 560 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: back forty eight touchdowns m v ps and made that 561 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: short position awful. You did not want to be on 562 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: that short position. And then you're basically shorting him. With 563 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: Jordan's love, who's not any good. Countless reports this week 564 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: have come out like he's not even ready to be 565 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: the backup. He's a major project, I mean one thing 566 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: to be when we use the word project, like Patrick 567 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes was a project. He he was starting by end 568 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: of year one week seventeen, right, Uh. Carson Wentz was 569 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: a project. Jared Goff was a project. You know, just 570 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: you can be a project and still not be not 571 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: ready to play at all after year one. That's a problem. 572 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: That's that's bigger to me than a project. You're a 573 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: reclamation project maybe, I mean, you're you're just you're a 574 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: piece of clay, and you know, we don't know that 575 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: we can sculpture. They don't know how could they? Right now? 576 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: He could not beat out the back of quarterback Aaron. 577 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: Aaron knows that. So I just think that it's just's 578 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna get a little weird for them. Are they going 579 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: to extend them? Because the one thing Aaron, the point 580 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: in time Aaron Rodgers at in his life, he clearly 581 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: doesn't give that many you know what, I don't blame 582 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: him now, Like is it ideal to have a guy 583 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: throwing your coach under the bus and stuff. No it's not. 584 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: But he's good enough too, and there's nothing really they 585 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: can do it. So back to what I said, you 586 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: only get true leverage in your life, whether you're Aaron 587 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers or whether you're listening and you're just a sales 588 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: guy at your company. You're only gonna get it so 589 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: many times right after you realize, like God, the number 590 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: one company that we've been trying to land as a 591 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: partner wants to talk to me. Well, now I got 592 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: my bosses by the balls because that guy only wants 593 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: to deal with me and Aaron Rodgers nose right now. 594 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: They got no choice but to put all their chips 595 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the table on Rodgers when they 596 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: were doing the exact opposite last draft. Things change fast, man, 597 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: they exchanged fast. Let's take a live look to a 598 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: developing situation that we have going on in Los Angeles, 599 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: and that would be the l A Rams and their quarterback, 600 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and it's officially now a major problem. Coaches typically give 601 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: us the cliche bs answers when it comes to a 602 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: player they don't like. They're not gonna publicly crush, specifically 603 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: their quarterback who's under contract. I've said it forever when 604 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: someone talks coaches politicians, most of the time your words. 605 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: I judge in your actions, not your words when they're 606 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: positive and they're slanting, like, I'll just judge you by 607 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing, not by what you're saying, right, Like, 608 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're coming along on defense and 609 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: your defense giving up forty points. Like, no, you're not 610 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: coming along on defense. We're watching you. I think the 611 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: guy's a really good player, and then he gives up 612 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: three touchdowns at a corner and you're like, no, I 613 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: don't think the guys that could have a player, right. Typically, 614 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: they just go over the top on saying positive things. 615 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Just the nature of the business in a public business, right, 616 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: politicians are king of it. They're full, they say nothing right, 617 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: They're never gonna say what they're really thinking. That's why 618 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: most of us have become numb to the whole political spectrum. Right. 619 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: It's just like, oh my god, I think football can 620 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: be a little bit like that. You know, players get 621 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: very good at it too. The rams, though, have gone 622 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: the complete opposite. I would die for, you know, just 623 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: a normal politician, especially where I live, to have the filter, 624 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: or the lack thereof, that less need and Sean McVeigh 625 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: have right now in their quarterback because I'll tell you this, 626 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: they don't give a crap. They don't care at all 627 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: what he thinks. And the coach crushed him. Troy Aikman 628 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: crushed him where he was getting his information from the 629 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: coach and then less Need basically came out and said, 630 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: the guy that drafted him number one overall and paid him, yeah, 631 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: we'll see, is he our starting quarterback? I don't know 632 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: anything is possible in a salary cap league. He's not lying, 633 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: but you never ever here, you know, wording like that 634 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: from a GM on a quarterback that really isn't tradeable. 635 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: And I said the moment that the story broke that 636 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: Goff and McVeigh needed marriage counseling, I said, well, unlike 637 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: in a marriage, a divorce is possible. I don't know 638 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: if a divorce is possible here. He's owed a hundred 639 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: six million dollars basically twenty six million dollars for the 640 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: next four years. But here's the thing. Colin had a 641 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: theory and maybe someone in the league told him this, 642 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, I have it. Asked him that he 643 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 1: thought that the Rams went to Jared Goff and asked 644 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: him to take a pay cut, and he said no, 645 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: and then they're coming out and blasting him. I asked 646 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: someone in the league if they thought that was possible, 647 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: and he said sure. Maybe they asked him, But in 648 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: what world would an age take guaranteed money off the table? 649 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: Talk about bad business? If anything like no less, we 650 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: ain't bailing you out. You paid us. That's just not 651 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: the way it works. No players ever in Jared Goff's 652 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: situation take less money, because if it was the opposite, 653 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: they've cut his ass, right. I don't blame Jared Goff 654 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: for not taking less money. I don't know if that's 655 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: true or not. The asked for a pay cut because 656 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: I maybe less need would. To me, it doesn't make 657 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: any sense because you already know what the answer is 658 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be a big fat n O. 659 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: And Sean McVeigh was crushing Jared Goff before they ever 660 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: would ask him for a pay cut. He benched him 661 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: in a playoff game. We saw it. He was the backup. 662 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: Jared admitted after it was a tough pill to swall 663 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: for the GM to do this. My theory and this 664 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: is why I didn't believe in marriage counseling. You can 665 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: only go to marriage counseling in a coach and quarterback 666 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: situation if there are improvements that are possibly to be made. 667 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: Jared Goff's talent, his athletic ability, his arm strength, his movement, 668 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: right is just in a ability to make certain throws 669 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: are not going to change. They are established. They are concrete. Now, 670 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 1: work ethic and showing up early that stuff is improvable. 671 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: That stuff you could go to marriage counseloring before. Right, 672 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: if you're Sean McVeigh and there was a counselor an 673 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: arbitrator whoever, trying to help you two out, you'd go, 674 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: I need Jared to study more film, I need Jared 675 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: to work harder. Now. I've never heard anything intangibly wrong 676 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: with Jared, that he's not working hard enough, that he's lazy, 677 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. But I don't buy that they 678 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: are just if they thought he was maximizing his effort. 679 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: They would be down on him because he's not playing well. 680 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: That's the nature of football. But I do think they 681 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: would respect him because we've seen Philip Rivers, uh, Roethlisberger, Uh. 682 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: I guess Breeze never really had a bad season. You know, 683 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: we we've seen quarterbacks have bad seasons or bad stretches. 684 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: The coach and the GM never crushed the guy. If anything, 685 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: they double down and get his back. For them to 686 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: openly crush him on the record. The only theory that 687 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: I can come up with, because I don't have any 688 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: inside information on this one, is it it's intangible stuff. 689 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: They do not think he's trying hard enough, working hard enough, 690 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: grinding hard enough, being a good enough teammate, whatever it 691 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: may be, because if they did, I think they would understand, like, 692 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's given us everything he has, because that's 693 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: usually how football coaches operate, right, He's just he's laying 694 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: it on the line. They don't think this guy's laying 695 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: in on the line, putting all of his chips in 696 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: the middle of the table. Tom Brady obsessed, breeze obsessed, 697 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: rivers obsessed. Is Jared Goff obsessed with playing the position 698 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: right now because he's being paid like he's an all 699 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: time great? But I have never ever in recent memory 700 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: seen a GM and coach absolute, absolutely eviscerate a quarterback 701 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: that is gonna be on their team next year and 702 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: still respect him. I don't see how they have any 703 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: respect for him. Now, there's a difference between you know, 704 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: being just God, I wish we had that one back. 705 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: He's not good enough, and just like God, I don't 706 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: like looking at the guy, I don't like the guy around, 707 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: because you'd have to have some of those thoughts in 708 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: this business to publicly crush a guy like they are. 709 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: You can't convince me otherwise because Colin's theory on the 710 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: asking for the pay cut, in what fucking world is 711 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: Jared Goff given money back because if the if the 712 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: roles were reversed, the team wouldn't give any money back. 713 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: The team would if his contract was Jimmy Garoppolos, Jared 714 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: Goff would be a lock to either get traded or cut. 715 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: It would be a lock. If they could cut him, 716 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: they would cut him yesterday. They can't. It makes no sense. 717 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: We just saw them do at to Todd Gurley. Now, 718 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: the one thing with Todd they never publicly crushed him 719 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: right because they knew the knee. The knee was just 720 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: an issue. He like had an excuse. They saw him 721 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: when he was great, and then they saw him on 722 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: his knee was messed up and it sucked, and they 723 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: just cut him. The Jared Goffs situation feels like there's 724 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: something a little below the surface and I'm waiting, I'm 725 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: keeping my eyes, just my head on a swivel, for 726 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: a story to come out, for an article to come out. 727 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, he just wasn't getting there early enough, or 728 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, some of his teammates just wasn't feeling you know, 729 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: his effort. You know they thought he you know, he 730 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: kind of tapped out, you know, week six or something 731 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: other than that. It won't it doesn't make any sense. 732 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: This is unheard of. Find me where coaching GM don't 733 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 1: do this. I've been forwarding it to so many people. 734 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: It's like, can you believe less Need said this? Yeah, yeah, 735 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: we'll see. We don't know. Basically like, yeah, we can't 736 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: stand this guy. I mean it's entertaining for me because 737 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: I it gives me something to talk about. But every 738 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: quote I read from Rams, whether it Shawn McVeigh or 739 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: less Neat, I'm just like, I can't believe he just 740 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 1: said that. And if I'm Jared Goff, I mean I 741 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: don't understand how to come to any other conclusion. But 742 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: these guys can't stand me. Okay, let's dive into the 743 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail back, you guys know the drill at John Middlecoff. 744 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: Hey mate, what if he's from Australia. Question for the Pod. 745 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: Does the NFL have any form of second tier league 746 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: like the NBA or Major League Baseball does with the 747 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: G League or Triple A in most sports like soccer 748 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: over here in Australia. I was right. We have secondary 749 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 1: leagues where young guys can develop and get more physically mature. 750 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: For example, if the Packers draft Jordan Love and have 751 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: him sit not dressed for a whole season, he would 752 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: still be playing in the second tier game. Instead of 753 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: being worthless to them this season, he would still be 754 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: getting game development. If the NFL doesn't have anything like this, 755 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: why wouldn't work? Would it just be too many people 756 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: in the roster? Sorry for the long question, Love the pot. Well, 757 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: they do, and it's called college football. So you are 758 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: they developed guys from eighteen to twenty two and then 759 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 1: you pick and choose in the draft. You know, given 760 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: your options at the time, who you want. The Packers 761 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: picked Jordan Love, a major, major project, and the way 762 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: you get him ready is then through practice in preseason games. 763 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: The problem with so they do not have a secondary league. 764 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: And these leagues that have existed, the a F, the XFL, 765 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL would not give them Jordan's Love. 766 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Part of the problem in football is I could not 767 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: take a first round player who was not playing on 768 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: my team, using Jordan Loves as an example, and put 769 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: him in some random league even if there was what 770 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: if he broke his leg? What scheme are we running? 771 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: Who's blocking for them? So, you know, it's just the 772 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: developmental league is college football and then practice. It's just 773 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: the way the NFL works, and that will never change. 774 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: I actually think college football is a you know, a 775 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: huge help to the sport and popularity of football. Hey, 776 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: John Love the show. Why did Mike Petton call cover 777 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: one man before the half on Scotty Miller's TV Catch 778 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: the Dude runs a four three nine? Kevin King didn't 779 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: have a shot. Why is nobody making a big big 780 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: deal about this play call? Will Redman playing in the 781 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: middle of the field, had no chance for over the 782 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: top help wasn't even on the screen when Scotty Miller 783 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: caught it. Total New York Jets call. In the biggest 784 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: moment of Mike Petton's career. Listen, Mike Petton hasn't been 785 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: good for a couple of years. You know, somehow he's 786 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: still employed there. Uh if I remember correctly, wasn't Rex 787 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: Ryan's always playing man coverage, right, that's their deal. Now. 788 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: It's easy to do when you have Reva's right, they 789 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: had really good corners on some those great Jets teams 790 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: that went to the a f C Championship game. Camaradi 791 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: and Revas you could just man up. Uh, you can't 792 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: do that with with Kevin King, who just you know, 793 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: an average player. So yeah, I mean it's just you 794 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: can't allow a touchdown there. I don't pretend to be 795 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, Dick Lebo here, but in that situation with 796 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: not much time on the clock, you know, prevent defense 797 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: and just playing a little off wouldn't kill you, right, 798 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: I would put everyone back. You cannot allow a touchdown there. 799 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: And the reason we're not talking about that play is 800 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said a bunch of ship after the game. 801 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: That's the reason that play was killer. They were up 802 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: fourteen to ten and the Packers. If you just go 803 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: seventeen to ten and you're getting the ball, okay to 804 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: give up a touchdown one to ten, then come out 805 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: of the half Aaron Jones fumbles is ten. They lost 806 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty six touchdowns. The difference in the 807 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: game awful, awful, awful awful. Wanted to get your thoughts 808 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: on public criticism of Golf by the Rams. Do you 809 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: think that this might be a tactic to use a 810 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: trade bait for Watson, Stafford for one of the other 811 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks under contract but available. Million next year is not 812 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: a lot for a young quarterback, but they may have 813 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: They may not think too much of Golf. No, they 814 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: probably don't. It might have a chance to be better talent. 815 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: But to get a better talent and Stafford, we're a 816 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: better playmaker and Watson, where do you think it's a 817 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: money ploy? So the question is basically what we talked 818 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: about earlier with Golf. I just don't think they like them, 819 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: and I think they're stuck and they have no access 820 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: to any of these players. Goth doesn't have any trade value, 821 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 1: they don't have the ability to, they don't have pay 822 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: I don't really know what the Rams are doing. I 823 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: just know they can't stand Jared Goff like that. That 824 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: much is clear. They openly talk about it. They can't 825 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: stand him. Question for the pod or just in general. 826 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: How sick do the Dolphins feel and how much does 827 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: it reflect on the decision makers that they picked two 828 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: over Herbert? All this talk of giving up to uh 829 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: In multiple picks to get to Sean. If they had 830 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: just picked Herbert last year, they would be set for 831 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: ten plus years. Must keep them awake at night. It 832 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: has to be one of the biggest, I mean, most 833 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: devastating decisions you'll ever make. Now they here's where they 834 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: are lucky. They have the number three overall pick. Deshaun Watson. 835 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: You would think would want to play there. I know 836 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: it's been reported he has. You have access to get him. 837 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: You can trade to a and get another quarterback, But 838 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: there is no you know, guarantee that that guy is 839 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna sniff being Justin Herbert. Right, if they take Trey Lance, 840 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, Zack Wilson, the chance of that guy's of 841 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert seemed slim, did none? Right? I mean, Justin 842 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: Herbert's already one of the best quarterbacks in the league. 843 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: We all make decisions, man, and at the time, I 844 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: don't think anyone in any business makes a decision that 845 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: they don't feel is the best possible decision. At that moment, 846 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: they believed that Tool was better than Herbert. I was 847 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: told the Chargers had to above Herbert. No one knew 848 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 1: Herbert was gonna be this good. That can't be argued. 849 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think a lot of us thought 850 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: he had all this talent, but how good he was 851 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: as a rookie was mind blowing. But that's all out 852 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: the window. We're in two thousand one. He is this 853 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: good to it really struggled, and there's not a fan, 854 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: there's not a you know, a team that would take 855 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: two over Herbert. So it's it's just devastating. I don't know. 856 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: They're lucky. Their team is good, but them we just 857 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: talked about it with Sean. The most important player by 858 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: a mile is the quarterback. So you can have this 859 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: really talented team nine ten eleven wins. You see what 860 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: the Colts they don't have a quarterback, so they're gonna 861 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: have to probably get desperate and make some crazy play 862 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 1: for Stafford or Deshaun Watson and give up all their picks. 863 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 1: It's just it sucks. If I was a Dolphins fan, 864 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: I don't even think i'd blame him. I'd just be 865 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 1: like God, we just sometimes you need a little luck 866 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 1: to fall your way. No one blame them for taking 867 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: too over Herbert. That's where it's hard to totally crush him. 868 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: You can't crush him because everyone had too above Herbert. 869 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: I guess not everybody, but it was just universally accepted. 870 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: The job though, as a GM or the head coach 871 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: is not to worry about what's universally accepted. To get 872 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 1: it the right player and they took the wrong player. 873 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: There's just it's it is what it is. At this point, 874 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: you just have to try to fix the problem and 875 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily possible. Uh appreciate everyone listening. 876 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend. No football for the first time, you know, 877 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: in like six months. That sucks, but we'll just have 878 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: to keep our head up and uh yeah, just have 879 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: a nice relaxing weekend and I will see everyone next week. Godspeed,