WEBVTT - The Canadian Election: NOTHING EVER HAPPENS 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:05.200 Alson media. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.879 Dark woke is back, ten more years of liberal supremacy, 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:14.480 bankers in control in the great nation of Canada. This 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.280 is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.960 by James Stout. We are discussing the twenty twenty five 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:27.240 Canadian election, which I maybe slightly exaggerated in the opening there. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.520 But the election did happen yesterday or two days ago 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.240 whenever you're listening to this. I was up all day 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:40.080 on on CBC and on elections dot Ca checking in 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.840 on all the charts and all the stats to see 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.839 how this how this kind of upset election went, and 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.559 oh boy did it go. James, how much do you 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.519 do you know about Canada and elections? 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.160 But both of the things, the things that I have 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.040 some knowledge about. I've been to Canada twice. That's a 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:00.920 fellow common World member. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.480 I guess. Yeah, we are both citizens of the Commonwealth. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:04.880 So there we go. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.000 Just kind of have a queen on the money. Queen 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.320 is dead, dead. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.039 Queen Queen is dead, but yes, we do have. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.720 Queen on money money. So that's another thing I understand. 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:19.039 We have a parliamentary system like yeah, like do I 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:20.840 say England or like Britain or UK. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.520 It's a yeah, it's a United Kingdom. I think would 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.959 be the institute that Great Britain and Northern Ireland. 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.560 Well we have one of those two, but it's less 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.920 confusing because it's just one country. We don't try to 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.440 be three countries like like you in the UK, Britain 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:37.200 and England. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.240 We're a continent, let a mini continent. That's what we're 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.920 going for. We've left Europe. We're on our way to 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.440 the Caribbean slowly. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:50.520 Oops. Yeah, luckily Canada is doing just fine. Uh. The debatable, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:55.400 but certainly this election has has gone probably slightly better 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.800 for global stability and stopping the advance of farign populism 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.560 then certainly what it looked a few months ago for 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.040 people WO don't know. Yes, Canada has a parliamentary system. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.560 People do not elect the prime minister directly. They elect 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.840 the MP in their district, which is called a writing. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.840 It's a first past the post system, so whoever gets 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.200 the most votes in each writing they get their representatives. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.000 Since to Parliament, the party with the most representatives they 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.800 take control of the government and that is who the 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.400 Prime Minister is and the next Prime Minister of Canada 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.600 will be Mark Karney, who assumed the prime minister rule 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.320 like last month, winning the Liberal election after Justin Trudeau 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:43.120 resigned in January, and before we get into some of 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.280 the results, at first, a little bit of an election 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.280 kind of background. So Liberals have been in power for 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.280 nearly a decade, slowly getting less and less popular as 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.040 the cost of living has risen. Last election in twenty 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.080 twenty one, the Liberals kept their minority government, but the 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.120 leader of their party, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, continued 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.080 to decline in popularity. By the end of twenty twenty 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.080 four's approval rating was just twenty two percent or net 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.160 negative fifty two. Conservatives were up twenty five points in 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.520 the polls. It was a near certainty that they would 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.720 sweep the next election. Trudeau announced his resignation on January sixth, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.799 kind of the January sixth of Canada if you think 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.480 about it. Former banker Mark Karney won the party election 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.480 in March or twenty twenty five. Carney quickly called for 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.320 an election to write off the peak of anti Trump 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.560 sentiment sweeping across Canada. This was following Trump's talk of 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.200 annexing Canada. And the global trade war and tariffs directed 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:45.400 at the American neighbor upstairs next door. I don't know, yeah, 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.680 downstairs south, No, from America. It's a oh I see, yeah, okay, 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.360 yeah from Yeah, got it understand, which is maybe a 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.600 northern standpoint. But who cares. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:55.600 Now. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:59.880 This election or an election, would have happened by oct 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.440 Over twenty twenty five regardless. But calling it early was 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.880 a smart move by Liberals as this was the first 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.200 time in three years that they had led in the polls. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.040 Support for other third parties like the Keebuqua Bloc and 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.960 the National Democratic Party the NDP had slowly been shifting 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.880 towards the Liberals, and we saw this in the results 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.400 Monday night. At this point, the Liberals are projected to 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.280 win one hundred and sixty eight seats, falling barely short 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.719 of the one hundred and seventy two majority. There's still, 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.039 as a time of recording, still a possible path for 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.799 them gaining a majority government, but it's fairly unlikely. It'll 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.719 probably be a minority government. The Conservatives have won one 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.760 hundred and forty four seats, the Blackabiqua twenty three and 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.760 the NDP a measly seven, with the Green Party snagging one. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.600 Liberals also secured the largest vote share, forty three point 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.920 six percent of the vote compared to the Conservative's forty 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.680 one point four percent, though because of a vote efficiency 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.599 basically how spread apart certain votes are, this has still 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.840 led to much more seats for the Liberals than the Conservatives. Right, 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.240 if you have more Conservatives voting in a district that's 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.120 going to go Conservative anyway, those extra votes don't necessarily 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.280 mean there's going to be more representation in parliament. That's 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:19.680 the vote efficiency idea. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.840 Yeah, first plus supposed to is a very bad system 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.040 as electoral systems go. It leads to an awful lot 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:30.000 of votes not counting for any representation. Like, for instance, 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.279 to Garrison Davis, party could have fifty one percent of 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:36.719 votes in all ridings and I could be there at 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.360 forty nine and I would get zero MPs. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.760 Basic, Hey, sounds fine. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.640 Sounds fine by me, Garrison Davis in control. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.880 Well, this is kind of what happens in Canada. The 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.039 election system in Canada is pretty swayed towards the Liberals 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.479 because of how much more dispersed they are versus you know, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.799 most Conservative supporters in the western Provincesaskatchewan, Alberta in BC 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.280 and a growing presence in ont But yeah, the Liberals 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.880 kind of always get a bit of a boost in 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.480 the election. Now, we did have record high early turnout 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.559 in Canada seven point three million people cast their vote 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:17.200 early during Easter week. The full turnout is higher than 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.000 it was the past few elections. But it matches pretty 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.719 much to the twenty fifteen election. So to get a 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.520 majority government you need one hundred and seventy two seats. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.599 This allows you to not have to worry about like 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.880 no confidence votes which trigger new elections, and you don't 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.479 need to work with other parties to pass legislation. Now, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.640 this will probably be a minority government with the Libs 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.800 having to work with a small number of remaining and 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.479 DP and Block seats to run the government, which one 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.600 could consider a good thing in terms of being pushed 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:52.840 maybe towards some better policies rather than just like liberal supremacy. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.320 But it also in its government will be more unstable 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.040 and it kind of gives the Conservatives more room to wiggle. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.200 So it's definitely a mixed bag. As reporting first came 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.400 in for Atlantic Canada, it showed that this would be 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.039 a tighter race than what the Liberals were hoping for. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.200 During election night, it seemed Conservatives were on track to 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.480 pick up two seats in Newfoundland, though in the end 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.360 the Liberal incumbent barely kept their seat, beating the Conservative 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:26.520 challenger by twelve votes. In Terra Nova the Peninsulas. The 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.239 Libs did fare much better in Quebec, though they flipped 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.320 eleven seats. This was the best performance by Liberals in 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.520 Quebec in years now. Conservatives gained some seats from the 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.760 Liberals in Ontario under Doug Ford, with Conservatives flipping seats 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.000 around the Toronto suburbs. One of the biggest stories of 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:48.640 this election was just the complete NDP collapse the progressive 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:53.640 kind of democratic socialist New Democratic Party. They're currently projected 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.160 to lose seventeen of their twenty four previously held seats. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:02.600 The NDP basically gave Carny this election. Jack met Singh 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.320 lost his seat. That's the leader of the NDP. He 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.679 lost his seat to Wade Chung, a Liberal, and stepped 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.280 down as leader on Monday night. Part of what makes 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.800 this such a big setback for the NDP is that 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.040 because they failed to win at least twelve seats, they 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:24.840 actually lose official party status in Parliament. Parties have to 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.680 win at least twelve seats to be recognized as an 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.400 official party in the House of Commons. Official parties get 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.560 to have offices in Parliament, extra staff, They get to 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:37.439 ask questions in legislative sessions and can sit on committees. Now, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.360 the NDP did previously lose party status in nineteen ninety three, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.760 winning only nine seats in that election, but this performance 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.360 was slightly worse, getting only seven. So this is going 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.320 to be a big shake up. The NDP is going 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.040 to have to be forced to rebuild, which is maybe 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:56.760 necessary based on kind of a degree of NDP stagnation 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.120 the past decade. They're kind of caught in like twenty 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:05.480 seventeen politics in my opinion, though saying did lead them 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.199 to pass some significant legislation and progressive policies do have 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.760 a degree of popularity in Canada. The NDP was polling 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.679 about the same as the Liberals just three months ago. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.920 The movement that we're seeing is from NDP voters scared 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.040 of Polyev and Trump, so they moved to Carney to 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.480 avoid splitting the left vote, as Carney was seen as 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.840 more capable of beating Polyev than the NDP leader sing 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.640 and certainly Justin Trudeau. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:31.640 Now. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.680 Funnily enough, some of this quote unquote strategic voting actually 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.120 did end up splitting the vote in a place like 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:43.560 be seen specifically Vancouver, which recently has gone strongly NDP. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.880 But this year the Conservatives were able to snag three 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:51.000 seats because enough previous NDP voters ended up going liberal 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:54.960 in an attempt to gain a Liberal majority, but that 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.920 resulted in neither the NDP nor the Liberal candidate actually 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.680 individually getting an enough votes to win the riding. Let's 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:06.680 talk about vote share compared to the last twenty twenty 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:11.400 one election, so Liberals did fairly well this election, especially 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.880 compared to previous ones. They gained over ten points compared 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.199 to the last election in twenty twenty one. Conservatives also 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.840 didn't do badly, actually like they actually did. Okay, this 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.280 certainly wasn't the result they were wanting, but they did 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.720 not do bad. They gained over seven and a half 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:33.840 points this race. Reliable conservative voters still voted conservative and 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.520 they were able to siphon off some support from other parties, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.920 with Conservatives doing slightly better than what polling predicted, but 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.760 a lot of very close races across key districts. Now 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:49.480 where all those extra votes or vote movement is coming 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.400 from is all of the third parties. The Green Party 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.920 and the Blackapiqua both dropped over a point, The far 0:10:56.000 --> 0:11:00.920 right People's Party dropped four points and the NDPP eleven 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.920 point six huge huge losses for the NDP. Most of 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.880 those voters probably going liberal, although some may just not 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.760 have voted. One of the more interesting parts about this 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:17.600 election is that the Conservative Party leader Pierre Polyev lost 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:23.360 his parliamentary seat. He lost to Liberal Bruce Fanjoy by 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.040 about four thousand votes. Oh damn, four point six percent 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.120 of the vote. So this is going to probably cause 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.679 a bit of an upset in the Conservative Party. There 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.560 might be some maternal conflict over whether Polyev should continue 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.160 as party leader, though he did not step down from 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.560 that position during his concession speech Monday night, James, do 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.079 you do you have any thoughts here before we pivot 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:46.640 to ads. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.520 It wouldn't be such a like scene of such a 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.480 humiliation for the Conservatives if it wasn't for all the 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.000 polling until maybe like a couple of months ago. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.680 Right, Yes, The reason why it's such an upset. Is 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.920 because they were like a destined to wear as almost 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.440 like divinely written into fate like three months ago, and 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.240 the fact that they fumbled this is gonna be like 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.679 a massive like historical footnote, not even a footnote. This 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:16.560 is like a historical topic. Is how conservatives fumbled this election? 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:18.280 Yeah, like people. 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.520 The thing is that the Liberals want despite people having 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.800 been pissed off with them for a long time and 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.880 wanting something different. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.840 Yeah. Yeah, because people would just like mad at Trump. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.720 And we will talk more about the background of the 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.040 lead up to this race and in those dynamics that 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:49.040 James mentioned in the next segment after these ads, Okay, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.839 to talk more about the lead up to this race 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:56.120 and Trump's influence on this election. I talked with Lance 0:12:56.200 --> 0:13:01.920 from the Serfs of fellow Canadian who talks politics just 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.559 as much as I do. So here is that interview 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.400 that I recorded just a few hours before the polls 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:08.960 closed in Canada. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.800 Hey, my name is Lance. I run a number of 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.640 different channels, usually under the banner of the Serfs. There's 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.120 YouTube dot Com, Slash, the Surf Times and at the 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:22.480 Serf TV. On most other social media, I cover news, politics, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:26.720 internet slop, usually from a dumpster fire like perspective. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.640 And you're Canadian importantly, Yes, I am, I am. I 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.800 am Canadian, but I have been resigned to living in 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.800 the States for quite a while. I actually just had 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.720 some Canadian family visit me, and they kept making fun 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.520 of me for living in the States, specifically because the 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.760 States are trying to, you know, take take Canadian territories seemingly. 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.480 So now I'm getting a lot of hate for my 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.600 Canadian family members for living in America, which is interesting. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:53.960 I was going to say, it's got to be a 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.840 scary time to be living in the United States as 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:57.760 a Canadian citizen a little bit. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.280 I am I am dual, but we'll see how long 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.520 that matters. So I want to talk talk a little 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.520 bit about kind of the background of this election, because 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.760 I think this is maybe the most interesting Canadian election 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.320 in the past ten years, specifically because of how much 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:18.319 the results have always felt it inevitable, but the actual 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.400 results have like flip flop three months ago, four months ago, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:27.360 I'm sure that me and you may have predicted probably 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.640 something resembling a conservative sweep. Not to put words in 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:31.400 your mouth. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.800 Well, minority or majority government led by the Conservatives, know 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.960 no question, that was where all the major polling was trending, 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.040 and then the exact opposite on this. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.040 Roller coaster election in both directions. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.200 I think it's it's pretty easily explainable, especially to your 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.680 American listeners who might have been wondering what was happening. Essentially, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.760 the country had a combination of burnout on Justin Trudeau 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.000 and the person who replaced Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney, effectively 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.040 took the number one campaign. It was the actual campaign 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.520 slogan of the Conservatives away from him immediately after being 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.720 crowned the new leader of the Liberal Party, which was 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.360 ax the tax, which is what you know, fascist Millhouse, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.080 who we call Pierre Pollievro over here. That was his 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.720 big campaign promise, The Conservatives were going to ax the 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.920 carbon tax, and that had a lot of people excited, 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.960 a lot of people didn't like Justin Trudeau. And then 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.920 along comes Mark Carney and he takes both of those 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.600 things away from the Conservatives. He's not Justin Trudeau, and 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.840 he acts the tax and so they had to kind 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.680 of completely reset. And this was before the wild card 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.800 of Trump shows up, ye, which of course now is 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.960 caring not only Canada but the world. I would say 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.000 like most countries now are kind of having to completely 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.640 reset how they think and want to do geopolitics into 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.320 the future because of his policies. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.440 Well, and I know, like a decent chunk of the 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.520 Alberta economy is now in great jeopardy because they can't 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.000 sell fuck Trudeau merchandise. 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.040 Which was dropping up the entire economy outside of the way. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.440 Yeah, well, you know if you go to the oil, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.000 which will probably be fine. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:02.680 Yeah, yeah. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.600 I guess could talk a little bit about kind of 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:09.640 what led to this universal hatred of Justin Trudeau in 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.880 like the past like like five years, just like ever 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:12.920 so briefly. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:17.800 Yeah, for conservatives, a lot of it really became increasingly 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.320 more intense with COVID, and I think internationally there was 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:25.960 an association with very basic safety protocols and tyranny. So 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.720 I guess some people the United States and Canada both 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.280 saw the idea of wearing a mask g having to 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.800 wash their hands as some sortom of dictatorship akin to 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.200 some of the worst war crimes ever committed on any population. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.280 That made a schism happen, where the sentiment kind of 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:43.640 really started accelerating towards less of you know, blaming Trudeau 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.440 for everything, kind of like Obama that used to be 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:49.920 a joke, like Trudeau to actual fuck Trudeau merchandise, and 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.800 the idea of you know, Trudeau being an enemy of 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.440 the state and a communist dictator that was on the 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.560 right side of things. On the left side of things, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.200 everyone got burnt out from Trudeau because the performer of 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.919 progressive politics of his entire character, he was very vocal 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:06.840 about standing up for a lot of issues that on 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.960 one end he would you know, pretend to care about, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.720 such as indigenous rights, land backs, stuff like that, and 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.600 then he would be suing the survivors of residential schools 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.600 in federal court to try and prevent them from getting 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.919 too much money from the federal government. So there was 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.680 a lot of Trudeau seems to performatively enjoy being perceived 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.919 as someone who's enlightened and progressive and trying to steer 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.040 the society in a good direction, where his policies are 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.879 effectively exacerbating wealth and equality very rapidly, because that's effectively 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.680 what you get with neoliberal centrists. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:35.040 Right. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.040 Yeah, I like to go back to that COVID thing 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.560 like I was in Calgary and like spring of twenty 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.959 twenty two, and I was getting made fun of in 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.840 like bars and clubs for like wearing a mask at 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.480 that point in time, like and that is that is Alberta. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.240 But yeah, no, that was definitely like strong. We certainly 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.160 saw degrees of that here in the States as well, 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.399 but yeah, you know, it's a little bit of that. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.399 Like general anti incumbent sentiment was growing so much last year, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.879 which which you saw levied against the Democrats in the 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.000 States and certainly against the Liberals. And the way that 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.159 the Liberals in Canada have kind of been able to 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.800 maneuver away from that in the way that like the 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:17.399 Democrats haven't is super interesting. It's not necessarily like replicable, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.960 especially for US politics, but it's still as interesting. I guess. 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.159 Like on the Conservative side, their leadership changed in twenty 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:26.800 twenty two, right. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.600 Yeah, I think so it was it was twenty two 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.120 or twenty three, but I believe it was it was around. 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:38.520 Them that's when plivertcame became leader of the Conservative Party, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.919 which is like you know, closed ranks and like coalesced 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.240 the past ten to five years or so, and they've 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.040 been they've been gaining a large it had been gaining, 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.800 you know, a large degree of popularity the past two 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.520 three years, not necessarily because of who their party leader is, 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.639 but because they are simply not the Liberal Party. At 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.080 least that's kind of what it seemed like to me, 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.760 because like approval ratings for Paul of Aara's never been 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.639 like great, but the Conservative Party has still been gaining popularity, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:08.720 at least previous to the past few months. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:11.199 Yeah, I don't want to play, you know, give the 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.600 far right any kind of kudos or points, but I 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.440 think from an analytical standpoint, something that people should realize 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.639 is that within the last i'd say year and a 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.240 half or so, Pierre was really really effective at doing 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.440 faux populism in a way that a lot of people 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.040 were starting to get very worried about, Yeah, and that 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.879 he was starting to see a lot about the working class, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:31.159 you know, the housing crisis in the country and the 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.640 fact that the Liberals are out of touch elites who 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.440 only care about enriching themselves, and you know, a lot 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.800 obviously you'd have a lot of the right wing kind 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:43.119 of nebulous terms like woke ideology being tied into that 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.359 kind of stuff. But he was for a long time 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.639 kind of starting to gain a lot of ground in 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.439 traction as more of a moderate style conservative who was 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:56.000 concerned with helping the working class, which is astonishing considering 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.720 the man is a lifelong. 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.439 Politician like that, that is who he is. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.159 He was making fun of people like the leader of 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.640 the Social Democrats here drug meet Singh. He was making 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.520 fun of him for just working for a pension and 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.639 not even caring about the people or the working class. 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.400 The man is never marched with the union I'm talking 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:13.439 about here. He's never marched with the union. He is 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.480 a you know, his voting track record is decidedly anti worker, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.119 it's decidedly exacerbating wealth in the quality. Has worked his 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:23.879 entire life to make houses more expensive. But marketing and 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.639 branding really work, especially like you know, there's compilation clips 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.560 of him saying things that are JK rallying tier in 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.600 terms of both their nonsensicalness, Like talking about how electricity 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.640 is crafted by harnessing the power of the lightning bolts 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.800 into the wire that the electrician holds up. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.800 Very cool, Yeah, very cool, four like powers. 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.919 I'm on board, but like, unfortunately that's just not how 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.679 we usually generate power in this but like it works 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:53.880 on some people. They like to see a man who've 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.639 fakes owan like different kinds of wood and tools, you know, 0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:59.000 like at Tucker Carlson esque. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.040 Yeah, I've got a would shop in my back and 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:01.760 it's like that. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:03.600 Well, no, I think this is the first time you've 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.480 ever seen that lumber, sir. But as you know, again, 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.919 some voters, they really started his rebranding in that respect 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.040 actually worked pretty successful for yeah, the last year and 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:14.479 a half against Trudeau. 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.840 Yeah, he had a pretty substantial makeover the past the 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.960 past few years to make himself like presentable in this way. Yeah, 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.240 very like carlsonesque, very like Ben Shapiro goes to home 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.280 depot and gets some wood. Yes, it's definitely pulling from 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.280 that vein, although maybe a bit more successfully and like, 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.720 at least from my perspective, it feels like the degree 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.879 to which Pierre kind of hitched himself to like the 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.879 Trump populist wagon the past few years, especially like with 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.439