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Speaker 2: A chat for you to chime in.

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Speaker 4: Cose right if you haven't been able to get in

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Speaker 2: How's your eating in nighting and not ever going? Good?

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Speaker 1: Yep, no complaints good, just moving along. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: you ever had that moment where you're just like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I told you that, you know, the teen event.

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Speaker 1: So they had all this stuff and as soon as

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Speaker 1: the morning you have breakfasts and muffins, and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm good. So I've avoided for a while.

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Speaker 2: I had little fruit and tea.

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Speaker 1: Then if I had a muffin, and then time kept

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Speaker 1: and I had that moment. You're like, all right, some's

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Speaker 1: gotta give. Some gotta give. So trying to get it right.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get it right, man. You have to that age

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Speaker 1: Will Powell. You've gotta have the Will Powell shout out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Will and his power appreciated.

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Speaker 2: We got a good game here, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: Piston's Laker game.

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Speaker 1: See if the Lakers can do what they've been great

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Speaker 1: at all season, is uh with the close games, clutch

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Speaker 1: games last five minutes, within five points, blah blah blah

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Speaker 1: Speaking of basketball, Rob G, somebody like a Lebron been

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Speaker 1: playing forever. As Kevin Durant passed the goat on the

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Speaker 5: Yes he did. KD had himself a night passing. You

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Speaker 5: and what are your thoughts? Is really really easy? Straightforward

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Speaker 5: means they got four more to go now. KD, in

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Speaker 4: I think in the NBA now we just have longevity

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Speaker 4: Guys are playing with Lebron's in what twenty one, you

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, you know, but it's just I just

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Speaker 4: I think it's hard to beat same thing Michael Jordan

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Speaker 4: Like he's played all these years, but for the games

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Speaker 4: he didn't have to play twenty years. Even some of

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Speaker 1: In I mean, I can't imagine a single stat that

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Speaker 4: So many more years than what Michael Jordan played. So

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Speaker 4: That doesn't always just passed Michael Jordan. He's better than

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Speaker 1: That to me, I would disagree on the meaningless that

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Speaker 1: If you just just play longer doesn't mean you're better

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Speaker 2: We don't do that now. If you're coming out, well,

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Speaker 1: But your first year of college, if you ball, then

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Speaker 2: They had did it the year before. I saw the.

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Speaker 1: Air balls and the rookie year. So he was out there. No, no,

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Speaker 4: But that everybody has a masseuse. They travel in private

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Speaker 4: training lists. I used to travel on commercial flights where

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Speaker 2: They're sitting right next to me. You know, it was amazing.

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Speaker 4: And they were on these six am flights and they

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Speaker 1: Right, and we and we know much more now. So

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Speaker 4: And financially, people just even younger people just refuse to

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Speaker 2: Why not? So the money is crazy?

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Speaker 4: No where they can make seven millions anything else where

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Speaker 1: And so that was insane, Luca, but I put the

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Speaker 2: And Kevin and Ran only played the year.

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Speaker 1: So I agree the numbers are going to be skewed

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Speaker 2: But I won't take that away from some.

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Speaker 1: I won't say, oh, Larry Bird doesn't get a you know,

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Speaker 2: I just I won't add it to him.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna take something away because Larry Bird

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. That's what I'll add that to her.

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Speaker 2: I'll add that to your cap. The numbers are just skewed,

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Speaker 2: is all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And you could also make the argument, and I don't

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Speaker 4: I mean easier to score now, I could. I could

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Speaker 2: It it's just a different game. I mean they only

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Speaker 1: They do such high picking rolls that it just it's

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Speaker 7: How you doing? Thanks for taking a call? Happy Monday.

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Speaker 7: Longevity most certainly matters in sports when we're looking at

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Speaker 4: The only people didn't see him play as somebody who

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Speaker 4: It was unbelievable what Larry Bird was able to do.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying he's the greatest player ever. I'm

440
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Speaker 4: just saying, stop pushing him down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, y'all, I'm like you a little carried

442
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Speaker 2: away with the Bird.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, five with the five Finals, won three

444
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Speaker 1: MVP with three times, maybe four if I'm not mistake

445
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Speaker 1: three time. It was just he was Bird was going

446
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Speaker 1: crazy for a long time.

447
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Speaker 2: And isn't it three in a row? I think it

448
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Speaker 2: was three in a row. It was absurd what he

449
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Speaker 2: was able to do. So he was incredible.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we got last call coming up in a

451
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Speaker 1: little bit. We gotta have some conversations about one of

452
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Speaker 1: the stars of college basketball who is now out of

453
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Speaker 1: the tournament right now, Steve the Seger gonna get you

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Speaker 1: set on what's trending histy.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 3: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 3: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

458
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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Steve Thank you, have a great night. Odd Couple Robin

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Speaker 1: Kelvin on a Magic City Monday, Rob, we got nine

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Speaker 1: seconds left. Pistons are up one now two after free

462
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Speaker 1: throw made by Jenkins. Rob, G I missed that they

463
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Speaker 1: were down? What was it one? I missed hoturday score.

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Speaker 1: I was looking around phone. What happened there?

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Speaker 5: Well, it seems like the Detroit Pistons have a foot

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Speaker 5: speed advantage over the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 2: On what you're trying to say, I can't say exactly

468
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Speaker 2: why they do, but yeah, you've been saying it all day.

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Speaker 2: Well me, yeah. So Dannis Jenkins having himself a game.

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Speaker 5: He beat Austin Reeves off the dribble, got a nice

471
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Speaker 5: fall away there on the baseline, and he scored the

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Speaker 5: last four points to put Detroit up by three.

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Speaker 1: He's been a great pickup for them when they've needed him,

474
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Speaker 1: coming off the bench and making some big plays and

475
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Speaker 1: he's been a great three point game there nine seconds.

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Speaker 2: Lefvel keep you updated on that one.

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Speaker 1: Also, Rob G somebody Rob and I we've of course

478
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Speaker 1: had the conversations about have been making the rounds all

479
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Speaker 1: around sports shows over the last month or so as

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Speaker 1: Darren Peterson they fall in the NCAA tournament, they be

481
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Speaker 1: in Kansas, got Bill self questioning things as well, but

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Speaker 1: he his thoughts on how his season went and really

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Speaker 1: the last couple of months for him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's probably the most recognizable name in

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Speaker 5: college basketball. You know, he's out of the tournament right now,

486
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Speaker 5: even more so than a guy like Cameron Booser who's

487
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Speaker 5: gonna win National Player of the Year All American. Because

488
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Speaker 5: everybody knows and has a thought about Darren Peterson. You

489
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Speaker 5: guys mentioned it as recently as like January February.

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Speaker 2: He was persona non grata.

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Speaker 5: Everybody had a thought on this kid who's missing all

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Speaker 5: these games, pulling himself out of games. In total, he

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Speaker 5: missed eleven games this season with full body cramps, with

494
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Speaker 5: a hamstring, with an ankle, with the flu. Right he's

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Speaker 5: supposed to play number one Arizona and about twenty minutes

496
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Speaker 5: before he said he couldn't play. He left early at

497
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Speaker 5: least three different games BYU against the Bands of Iowa,

498
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Speaker 5: who now making noise here in the tournament, and there

499
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Speaker 5: was a lot of conversation surrounding him, like, well, is

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Speaker 5: he hurt or is he just not have the heart

501
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Speaker 5: to play? Is he worried about the draft or is

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Speaker 5: he worried about winning here at Kansas and Peterson, to

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Speaker 5: his credit, spoke to the media after their loss here

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Speaker 5: in the tournament and they asked him about, you know,

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Speaker 5: the bizarre season that he's had so far. Here's what

506
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Speaker 5: he said, quote, I was hurt for the majority of it,

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Speaker 5: not hurt, but there was just some mind stuff. I

508
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Speaker 5: wasn't really myself until the end of the year. I

509
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Speaker 5: guess whatever people see in these last games is kind

510
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Speaker 5: of who I am.

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Speaker 2: For me, I've read that as a combination of things.

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Speaker 1: Rob g By, the way Pistons get to win crazy

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Speaker 1: three point a ten by Luca good deed By during

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Speaker 1: they lose by three, so Lakers losing winning Street was

515
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Speaker 1: at nine straight.

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Speaker 2: Did you say we or the who is we? The Piston?

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Speaker 1: Okay no, no, no, I mean I could have said we, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: great win for them though. They definitely you know, without

519
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Speaker 1: good team streaking, without your guy Kate at home, that's.

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Speaker 4: A good one.

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Speaker 2: They just can't get a good win. Just good win tonight, Ron,

522
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Speaker 2: that's all. It'd be.

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Speaker 1: The tough team. Looka be going crazy forty a game

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Speaker 1: like it's nothing nothing, it's a good win. The city,

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Speaker 1: I'm sir, enjoyed it all.

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Speaker 2: Right. Back to Peterson, I read this ass.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's been banged up, not been great physically. But

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Speaker 1: I also read this ass because me and Rob talking

529
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Speaker 1: about it all the time.

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Speaker 2: I have to play this season, right. I couldn't just

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Speaker 2: go to the league.

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Speaker 1: I have to play a year away, whether it be

533
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Speaker 1: college pro somewhere else across the world. But I have

534
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Speaker 1: to be a year away from high school before I

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Speaker 1: go to the NBA. Stupid rule, but it is the rule.

536
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Speaker 1: And I read this ass people maybe in his life.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, they made the rules, so you ain't got

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Speaker 1: to give them all that. Go play, play a little bit,

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Speaker 1: show them what you can do. If you feel a

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Speaker 1: little out of it, don't play sit out the rest

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Speaker 1: because it'll play a game. Rob, he will have twenty

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Speaker 1: at halftime, and then just literally.

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Speaker 2: Kyrie played eleven was the first overall pick. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know what I'm saying, Kyriek was hurt the whole season. No,

545
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Speaker 2: but I'm just saying it didn't hurt his stock. No, No,

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Speaker 2: that's not the question.

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Speaker 4: That they didn't hurt a stock by not playing, is

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Speaker 4: what I'm trying to say. So somebody could have told

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Speaker 4: him just what your talent is, sot out, but your

550
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Speaker 4: talent is so good they're going to take you regardless.

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Speaker 4: You gotta be you gotta be an unbelievable GM to

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Speaker 4: pass on a kid who has that kind of talent. Seriously,

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Speaker 4: it's a catch twenty two because if you if you

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Speaker 4: don't take him right because when he did play, he's

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Speaker 4: scoring a point a minute. So you're going, he's playing

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes or whatever it is, eighteen minutes he got

557
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Speaker 4: twenty two points. Like you looking at this, going this

558
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Speaker 4: is incredible. And all I'm saying is I'm never going

559
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Speaker 4: to be one to judge people when they say they

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Speaker 4: can't play for health reasons.

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Speaker 2: I just can't. We don't know what he feels like.

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Speaker 4: I know it's easy to say, you know he's jaking

563
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Speaker 4: it or whatever. I just think you got to be very,

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Speaker 4: very careful. You don't know what the guy's going through.

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Speaker 4: You would assume that a guy at that age playing basketball,

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Speaker 4: which is fun, especially when you can dominate, right, you

567
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Speaker 4: would want to play. Who doesn't want to play, you know,

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Speaker 4: like one college season or one portion of it or whatever.

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Speaker 4: So I'm always going to give him the benefit of

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Speaker 4: the doubt that when when he took hisself out or

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Speaker 4: when he didn't want to play, that.

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Speaker 1: There were real issues there. It just doesn't happen out

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Speaker 1: to me. I don't agree. I don't think it was.

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Speaker 1: Strictly I'm really hurt. I think it was. I've showed

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Speaker 1: you enough tonight, you saw it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying when he's saying I feel like I

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Speaker 4: got the flu or I don't feel well or whatever,

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know how you sitting in the

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Speaker 4: stands or you doing a radio show, or the coach

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Speaker 4: or anybody knows what somebody feels like.

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Speaker 2: I don't. But that's all.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm speculating, I think there was some Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was banged up, I don't think. I absolutely think

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Speaker 1: he was banged up throughout the season. But I think

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Speaker 1: he could play.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 4: So, so I don't blame the kid. Why doesn't Bill

588
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Speaker 4: self kick him off the team or say you can't

589
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Speaker 4: come play?

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Speaker 1: Come on, Bill, see I'm saying because Bill self is

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Speaker 1: trying to win tournament game.

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Speaker 4: If you really believe that you were to coach and

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Speaker 4: you thought this guy was jaking it, there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 4: and he's just doing this.

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Speaker 1: And whatever, I honestly would have a sit down and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: at this point, because I be real with you, I

597
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Speaker 1: would sit down with him, man the man go to

598
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Speaker 1: dinner and say, look, it's confusing the team.

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Speaker 2: They got you for half. It's not confusing the team.

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Speaker 2: They know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's confused tea because you're literally playing

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Speaker 1: right now. And then I go, all right, cool here,

603
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Speaker 1: second half this way, and you're like, no, I'm done.

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Speaker 2: All right, we go what do you mean You're done? Nah?

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Speaker 1: No, flu Okay, Now I gotta do this with the

606
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Speaker 1: whole different team. I would say, you've played enough. Let's

607
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Speaker 1: just keep it real between us. You showed enough. You

608
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Speaker 1: will be a top one, two, three pick. You got

609
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Speaker 1: that kind of talent. I'm rooting for you as a man.

610
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Speaker 1: I'm always here for you. Let's just you go ahead

611
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Speaker 1: and do your thing, get ready for the draft, get

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Speaker 1: ready to get picked up, and we're gonna focus on

613
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Speaker 1: the guys who got here and try to compete.

614
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Speaker 2: But they're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: And that's why he's able to continue doing that because

616
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Speaker 4: they the coaches don't have the balls to do I

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Speaker 4: would have.

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Speaker 1: I meant, your team is trying to compete, and these.

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Speaker 4: Coaches don't have that because they're afraid to death that

620
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Speaker 4: if they run him off the team, that there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be repercussions. And who knows that kid in the tournament

622
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Speaker 4: could have had a streak. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: you're Jim Behim with a championship that you had no

624
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Speaker 4: business gear.

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Speaker 1: You went the whole what hour is that the five

626
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Speaker 1: o'clock hour? I'm just put out of Jim bay in reference.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, but I'm just saying it didn't help

628
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Speaker 1: the team. It didn't help them, and it didn't help

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Speaker 1: them in a tournament. And now Rob give got bill

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Speaker 1: self sitting here questioning himself.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm a coach and I gotta

632
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Speaker 2: just take some time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because I think he is not ready

634
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: it's a larger conversation we can have later in the week.

635
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Speaker 1: But I don't think he's ready for like this might

636
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Speaker 1: be a thing wherever. It's almost like, hey, I'm gonna

637
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Speaker 1: use college as a showcase. Let me play a few games,

638
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Speaker 1: do what I want, especially the like you mentioned, the elite,

639
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Speaker 1: elite elites. I'm gonna come out here, play and compete

640
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Speaker 1: a little bit. If y'all know I'm a number pick.

641
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Speaker 1: I ain't make the rules, y'all. The one said I

642
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Speaker 1: gotta play one stupid year when I can just go

643
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Speaker 1: to the pro And if you don't want to draft me,

644
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Speaker 1: then don't draft me.

645
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Speaker 2: But let me have that ability and option. So now

646
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Speaker 2: let me come out here.

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Speaker 1: Y'ah yah put up twenty in the first half and

648
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Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm good son, come out the next night.

649
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Speaker 1: I'll play all forty. Ain't looking at him. Next night,

650
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Speaker 1: I ain't playing at all. I'm alotle. My thighs messed up, Robgi,

651
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Speaker 1: whatever my pops tell me or my uncle Dennis like

652
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Speaker 1: a kawhi, whatever you know.

653
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Speaker 2: The team is doing right now, the brand.

654
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Speaker 1: Me, whatever brand me is doing because y'all making me

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Speaker 1: play this stupid year.

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Speaker 2: Six months of my life.

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Speaker 4: I watched the ball brothers in high school not come

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Speaker 4: past half court and oh, Terry Pick, Cherry pick. The

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Speaker 4: whole game. The teammates throw the ball down to them

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Speaker 4: and they would just score.

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Speaker 2: Like there's a coach.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like they didn't do that

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Speaker 4: on their own, Like they were not the coach wasn't

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Speaker 4: man enough.

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Speaker 2: To be able to go like y'all gonna keep doing that.

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Speaker 4: But do you know what I'm saying, Like, so, I

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Speaker 4: get it if he was able to do that and

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Speaker 4: get away with it. But I'm just talking about as

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Speaker 4: far as when someone says physically or mentally they got

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Speaker 4: something going on, I'm gonna error on the side of that.

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Speaker 1: It's real. I do agree with the mental That's the

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Speaker 1: part I agree with.

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Speaker 4: It because I just can't. I don't think we really

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Speaker 4: can tell. And you gotta be careful with that.

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Speaker 1: I think the mental part, I'll give you that too,

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Speaker 1: because you're battling what my parents want more, my advisors

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Speaker 1: to tell me, don't play here, don't hurt yourself, it

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Speaker 1: ain't worth it. Screw them, they using you. And then

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Speaker 1: on the flip side, like you mentioned, I love the game.

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Speaker 1: I want a ball. I want my teammates, so I

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Speaker 1: want to play, and then I got my coach, So

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Speaker 1: I think I one thousand percent think he was struggling

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Speaker 1: with the balancing of being a brand and a million

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Speaker 1: dollar kid at nineteen and what I should do shouldn't

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Speaker 1: do for the next level, but this level for my teammates.

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Speaker 1: I see that for sure, all right? Last Call eight

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Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 1: nine on Fox. We've had a great show, a bunch happening.

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Speaker 1: If you wanted to get in and coodn't earlier, this

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Speaker 1: is your chance to do so. Eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 1: nine on Fox. It is the last Call. How at

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Speaker 1: your Boys? Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It's last call time on The Odd Couple.

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Speaker 3: If you had a take and couldn't get in all show,

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Speaker 3: where's your chance?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Call us ninety nine on Fox. Hurry up, Robin Kelvin,

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Speaker 3: gotta get out of here. Be sure to catch live

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Speaker 3: editions of The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin

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Speaker 3: Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: I hit It's so good today. It was fun. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio one more time for you boys.

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Speaker 1: He's Rob, I'm Kelvin and we already a couple on

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Speaker 1: a Magic City Monday. Thank you to all of our

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Speaker 1: guests today, Antonio Daniels, we had also Mo Casara joined

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Speaker 1: us as well. Appreciate it. And right now, Rob, it

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Speaker 1: is time for last call. Oh all right, last call

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Speaker 1: on the Magic City Monday.

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Speaker 2: Who we got Alex in North Dakota. I was weird.

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Speaker 4: I was like, right there, you are the last call

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Speaker 4: of here on the couple of Fox Sportsuitio. What's up Alex?

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, that's more of a question for you guys.

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Speaker 10: Just with nil players that are coming into college basketball,

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Speaker 10: what's their obligation to the university. I know that they're

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Speaker 10: coming in to try to make it to the league.

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Speaker 10: But the one of the best players that's sitting out

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Speaker 10: eleven games, barring that he does have injuries or anything

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Speaker 10: like that, if he's getting all this money, do they

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Speaker 10: have up contracts where hey, you have to play so

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Speaker 10: many minutes in this season, borring if you do get injured,

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Speaker 10: how does that work.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like I've read the byelaws and

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Speaker 1: the contracts, but you bring up an interesting point, rob G,

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Speaker 1: I mean Rob and robb G that I think moving forward,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna pay attention to like for instance, because

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Speaker 1: of this. What who's the saying another guy won't do

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Speaker 1: like I said, I'm only here. Everybody know I'm the

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Speaker 1: number one numb But you can't make somebody play. No,

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Speaker 1: but I know, but I can write stipulations in my contract.

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Speaker 1: You and I have stipulations that what you say, I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing an example. I'm making you. I'm paying you two

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Speaker 1: million dollars this year debonsa Peterson. You have to play

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Speaker 1: a minimum of fifteen games.

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Speaker 2: When I'm not signing that.

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Speaker 4: Then if I'm hurt, if I'm hurt, no, I'm so,

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Speaker 4: then I'm gonna go to a differ the deal.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal, and I'll give you the extra. And

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Speaker 1: here's so you get a million dollars. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: a million dollars if you meet the minimum, and when

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Speaker 1: you play the extra you get that.

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Speaker 4: Somebody will give me a contract without that. So you

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Speaker 4: could go ahead and do your stipulations and you'll run

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Speaker 4: most people off.

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Speaker 2: Their agent will tell you, but don't don't sign that.

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Speaker 4: Because this school will give you guaranteed five million and you.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to do anything five okay, So if you

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Speaker 1: do that, I'm just saying, you're gonna run yourself out

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Speaker 1: of put. I think if you're a school again, depending

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Speaker 1: on how you view this, but depending on how you

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Speaker 1: view that, I can't make you play.

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Speaker 2: But I tell you I don't layel good.

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Speaker 4: If I tell you I don't feel good or I

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Speaker 4: don't feel right, I just remember. I remember that James

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Speaker 4: Rodney Richard pitch for the Astro, got to sign a

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Speaker 4: big contract and then all of a sudden he kept

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Speaker 4: saying I feel weird.

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Speaker 2: I feel weird, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: They were like, oh, well he got the money, now

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Speaker 4: he don't want to play with dude had.

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Speaker 2: A stroke, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Nobody, nobody wanted to hear the guy who kept saying

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Speaker 4: I don't feel right, you know what I mean, and

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Speaker 4: get out there. He just got the money, he don't

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Speaker 4: want to play like you gotta be ki for with that.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'm saying. But do you think

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Speaker 1: this was that I get what you're saying. I do,

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Speaker 1: very honest, I don't know. So then would you agree

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Speaker 1: that it's been very odd and that he plays, he

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Speaker 1: plays a half, he doesn't play a half, but.

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Speaker 2: Didn't That's the coach, not the player, Bill sels I

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Speaker 2: said that when we talked about it. I said it.

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Speaker 2: Then I said, the best way to make that change, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you can't play here, Then I understand it.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 2: Don't play for the next eight games. Get better.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna give you your time to get and

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Speaker 4: then come back, and then we'll have a conversations.

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Speaker 2: We can't feel you feel better? Are you better? Are

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Speaker 2: you ready to play? I want you to be one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: You tell me when you're one hundred percent, And as

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Speaker 4: soon as you are, you're back on it, back playing

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Speaker 4: the game, and and you can play whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take you at your word. Can't be

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Speaker 1: you know you're not doing the No, I'm good. Wait, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. No, I'm back. No, I got cramps. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't let me play tonight. I don't have time

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Speaker 1: for that. And I'm too prideful. Maybe I'd rather go

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Speaker 1: down with my guys who were in the bunker with

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Speaker 1: me than somebody who, like I said, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that's hits makeup. But I do think I feel

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Speaker 1: that he had maybe some added pressure of like the

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Speaker 1: FAM and his advisors and people like man, you don't

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Speaker 1: owe him nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's a speculation. This is all mean. I'll be very clear.

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Speaker 4: If that kid had something really wrong with him or whatever,

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Speaker 4: people that would have been a goal.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. That's really weird than that

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Speaker 1: he would play it, then he wouldn't play, and he

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Speaker 1: played a half. They wouldn't play a half, and then

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Speaker 1: played this game. Maybe it's maybe it's meant now. That's

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Speaker 1: the part I'm agreeing with that. I think all of

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Speaker 1: this was a lot for him. He's a kid, dude,

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Speaker 1: We forget. I told Robber this. Every year Clemson has,

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Speaker 1: as you know, forty fifty football players come and they

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Speaker 1: do a whole tour of LA like if they're interested

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Speaker 1: in media, journalism, film, TV, the whole night you're in

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Speaker 1: the media, the industry. They come out here, they hit

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Speaker 1: a few different spots, might hit Disney and they might

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Speaker 1: hit Universal, they hit and they come to Spectrum News one,

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Speaker 1: the Spectrum building wherever from networks they'll do the radio

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Speaker 1: they'll do I mean they'll do Dodgers, they'll do Lakers,

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Speaker 1: they'll do news, and I have the privilege of kind

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Speaker 1: of speaking with them, doing a little quick you know,

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Speaker 1: one on one with them, talking to them. And every

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Speaker 1: year Rob I walk away and I go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are kids, you know here rooting, you cheering against him,

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Speaker 1: you're yelling out, he's an idiot, why would he do this?

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Speaker 2: Whatever? And then when I get around, how you doing,

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Speaker 2: mister Washington?

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Speaker 1: And you see these six foot four, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy pound kids and you're like, oh, yeah, yes, he

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Speaker 1: plays high level football and you're cheering him or you're

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Speaker 1: rooting against him on a Saturday. But this is a kid,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm reminded of that.

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Speaker 1: And I say that to say even Peter.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I think people get so caught up with the money

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Speaker 4: aspect and thinking they's supposed to be something else that

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Speaker 4: they're not and maybe not ready for, so you put

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Speaker 4: added pressure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making excuses for the kid.

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Speaker 4: All I'm gonna tell you is if you don't want

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Speaker 4: to play when you're nineteen or twenty years old, play basketball,

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Speaker 4: which is fun, then I got there's something there that

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Speaker 4: I need to find.

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Speaker 2: Do you know, Kelvin, that's.

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Speaker 4: What not A forty year old who's like ah, a

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00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: nineteen year old kid doesn't want to play basketball, then

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00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: I gotta question that there's something going on.

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00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: They become brands, rob they're thinking about the brand, not

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Speaker 1: just the game.

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Speaker 2: That's the challenge. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

846
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: is coming up next.

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Speaker 3: I never miss your radio show.

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00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did

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Speaker 2: you hear that