1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: and Gattety and he Armstrong and Getty House things. So far, 4 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: it's running almost well. It's one hundred percent of people 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking to who do or don't like Valentine's Day, 6 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: and everybody around here hates it. So I don't know, 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's the kind of people to get into the 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: radio business. 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: There's some news to talk about. I already had things 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to Mike Lyons about, but there 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: are things in the news today that we need to 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: bring up. Mike Lions military analysts we regularly have on 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: You can follow him at maj Is in Major Mike 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: Lions because he was serving with various military organizations in 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: both the United States and Europe throughout it his career. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: We love getting his perspective on things. Hey, Mike, welcome 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: to the show. 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: Hey guys, great to be back. 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I guess we got to start with JD. Vance saying 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal that all options are on 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: the table, including US troops in Ukraine. 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think a lot of that has to do 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 3: with kind of clean up on al five for what 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: the Secretary of Defense has said. Pete hegg Seth, who 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: you know, watching him closely, trying to see if he's, 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, getting off to a good start or not. 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: He's not really, frankly, had a very good week. He's 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: trying to implement the intent of this president. Note you 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: know very clearly. But I think he got out over 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: skis when he talked to those European leaders, to the 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: NATO leaders with regard to the Ukraine's borders and all 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: the things that you normally don't see Defense Secretary doing. 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: You know, the last guy basically Lloyd Austin read quotes 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: off of the d D website and he never really 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: said anything. I think I think Pete heg Seth unfortunately 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: got out in front of himself a little bit. So 38 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: now JD. Vance comes in behind him in a little 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: bit of a cleanup pear to make sure that if 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: we're going to start this negotiation with Russia, that it 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 3: starts a little different than what pethics if I'd. 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Say, okay, so we don't usually try to drag you 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: into the politics of things. You're a military expert, but 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: so from lots of people were saying, including us this week, 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: of why would you take anything off the table immediately 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: in a negotiation? And the Secretary of Defense did that. 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and again I want him to succeed. I think 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: there's lots of positive aspects of what he's done so far, 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: but defense secretaries usually don't make policy. Those are the 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: things for secretary of States. I'm concerned actually that the 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: President is deep in this as well, because he seems 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: to kind of go into these negotiations in one hand 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: and then if they start going south, they'll figure out 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: a way to separate himself from it. But this is 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: a serious series next few days coming on here with 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: what's going on in Ukraine and Russia, and I just 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: hope that we're ready for it. I'm a little bit concerned, 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: for example, that General Kellogg has been somewhat stinline. They 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: left him on the tarmac or on the Delta sky 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: club someplace. I mean, he was supposed to be the 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: one that was involved with this, and he doesn't seem 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: to be involved. You heard the President talk yesterday that 63 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: he'd spoken to Vladimir Putin, so we're just not sure, 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: you know where this is all going. To go and 65 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: what's exactly going to look like. But again go back 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: to the Secretary of Defense. I want him to succeed, 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: but I think he's been a little bit out of 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: over Skis the last few days well. 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: As far as bringing the war between Ukraine and Russia 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: to a close, even President zelenski Is said at some 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: point last year they may not be able to get 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: back all the territory they lost, so he's willing to 73 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: concede that. So say we come up with some sort 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: of deal where you and Russia has taken like twenty 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: percent of the country. Yeah, but say you call it 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: good here and everything like that. What sort of guarantees 77 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: can the world offer Ukraine that if you lay down 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: your arms and Russia attacks again, you know we got 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: your back. How could that work? 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: Exactly? In ninety three we gave them security back. Then 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: under President Clinton when they gave up their nuclear weapons, 82 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: and when Russia first went in in twenty fourteen, we 83 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: didn't back it up. 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: Then. 85 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: It only works when there are US troops there on 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: the ground actually working side by side with Ukrainian forces. 87 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: And there should never been any expectation that Ukraine on 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: itself could defeat Russia based on four times its side. 89 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: It's military capability that it has, so it's going to 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: need some kind of NATO alliance, which again I don't 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: think we've talked about this before. I still don't believe 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: that that U Fain will ever become part of NATO 93 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: just because it becomes this trip wire that will exist there. 94 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: So it is it's a precarious situation. And then you 95 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: heard Secretary Hexeth said, well, if you guys do want 96 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: to get together and Europe should support Ukraine, United States 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: won't be part of that. And oh, by the way, 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: it won't be covered under Article five. So he kind 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: of muddied the waters with regard to any future security 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: situation that really didn't have to happen well before the 101 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: negotiation of this potential peace treaty. 102 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Well, I guess I should flat out ask the question 103 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: I haven't yet. The news of the day, is there 104 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: any chance US troops end up in Ukraine fighting Russians? 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: Probably not now probability of that. The only way that 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: happens is if somehow there's an attack on a NATO country. 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: I think for a secretary hecxcept is right. Is Poland 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: being this incredible ally. Poland is an amazing NATO ally 109 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: right now in terms of what they spend money on 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: UH and I think you're going to see a brigade 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: US Army brigade rotate there, kind of like what we 112 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: saw what we see in Korea. We're going they're going 113 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: to see a large number of a bigger US presence 114 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: inside of Poland that's going to act as that deterrence there. 115 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 3: There are some people who believe that Russia won't stop, 116 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: that they if they get more of Ukraine and that 117 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: they get more than land masks, they will avent going 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: to the Baltics. But now you're into NATO countries itself. 119 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: So you see Finland now has joined NATO and so 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: the ring is around them. At this point, there's no 121 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: place else they can go. The the narcation line now 122 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: is clear to the country of Ukraine. 123 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: And for some positive news that has happened with sec 124 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: def Pete or because it's Trump, I don't know who 125 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: gets the credit on this. I remember when we had 126 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: you on a while back, because the army recruiting had 127 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: hit all time lows. Well in December it hit a 128 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: twelve year high and in January it hit a fifteen 129 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: year high. And I saw some ads out today that 130 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: were really really cool, and some video of Pete Hegsith 131 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: doing pushups with troops and everything like that. You got 132 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: to be feeling good about the direction that's going. Yeah. 133 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and again and Secretary hex pe Hexad is a 134 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: real politique guy. He's like, whatever the situation is in 135 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: the world and on the ground. He's not an idy log. 136 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: He talked about that yesterday when it came down to 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: we need weapons and that values in terms of defeating 138 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: our enemies. But recruiting numbers are lag indicators, and so 139 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 3: that tells me that this thing actually arded back in 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: November sixty days ago when the when the president got elected. 141 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: So that's the key there. It's not it's not just 142 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: that people started, you know, going to enlistment centers here 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: in January when Trump took over. That's a lag indicator 144 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: of stuff that happened a few months ago. And I 145 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: think that's that's going to be positive going forward. No question. 146 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: He knows President Trump's intent. Lethality a better fit military, 147 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: a better fit army in particular, and DEI is being 148 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: taken out of the military by branch by root. I 149 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: could tell you that from experience, as I watch these 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: military installations get rid of any aspects of that meritocracy 151 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: has returned. I'm glad. I'm glad to see it, and 152 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: I think you'll see a better military for it. 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Well, I know the the doge guys Elon and his 154 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: and his and his crew are going to turn their 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: attention toward the Pentagon here soon. Do you think there's 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: plenty of places to look for cutting money in the Pentagon? 157 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: Well, likely at the macro level, and it's really the defense, 158 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: you know, industrial complexes where that's likely coming from. The 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: question I'm going to have for this administration is looking 160 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: over the horizon. I don't think, for example, that the 161 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: Trump's idea of an iron dome for the United States 162 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: makes sense. I do think we you know, we've got 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 3: to we've got to put these in different buckets of land, 164 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: of sea and space and air. These different domains is 165 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: where focus has got to be. With more focus towards 166 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 3: probably space and air at this point as that drone 167 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: technology becomes. But we're never going to be able to 168 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: create an iron dome system to protect us that you 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: go back to the eighties, it feels very nineteen eighty 170 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: right about now too, Guys, like you know, it's like 171 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: the military is a good time to be in the military. 172 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: I think for the next ten years that's going to happen. Well, 173 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: Reagan had that SDI initiative back then. It was designed 174 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: really to bankrupt the Soviet Union at the time, because 175 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: we didn't really have that technology either. Well, it would 176 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: be an unrealistic expectation to think that we're going to 177 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: protect our homeland from missiles defense because the iron dome 178 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: technology in above itself is more or less a tactical 179 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: close in defense system, and that something that's going to 180 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: protect our whole coastline. 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: Anyway, interesting back to Russia Ukraine because I'm just looking 182 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: above both TV screens and it's a big thing in 183 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: the news right now. First of all, some of the 184 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: numbers you look at as we next week will be 185 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: the three year anniversary of the beginning of this nightmare. 186 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Some of the numbers of how many people have died 187 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: or been injured, whether civilians are from a strictly military standpoint, 188 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: the number of soldiers taken off the battlefield, particularly on 189 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: the Russian side, it's just insane. 190 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the fact that they've had to bring mercenaries 191 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: in from North Korea and they're being killed. It's just 192 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: Russia though, because it has the population, it has the resources, 193 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: they can continue to throw bodies at it and Ukraine 194 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: can't do that, which is again, look in history, this 195 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: is why countries that have greater industrial capabilities win these 196 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: wars of attrition, which is why from Trump's perspective, he 197 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: just wants it to be over, which is why he'll 198 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: do anything and can see anything in order for that 199 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: to happen. But the security you know, those security agreements 200 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: have got to go forward or Russia will clearly do 201 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: this again inside of the Ukraine. They'll try to take 202 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: all of Ukraine at some point at least while Vlatimer 203 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Putin is a. 204 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Lot So you think Putin hasn't learned a lesson, damn it, 205 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that again. We come to some sort 206 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: of conclusion here, we draw some lines. You think he 207 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: would try to take more. 208 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's because he's not just looking at the US. 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: He's looking at Donald Trump's behavior and his willing to negotiate, 210 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: and he looks at the rest of Europe and says 211 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: they're still not in the game, right, which they you know, 212 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: the UK, the Germans. The Germans are moving towards de industrializing, 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: the Germans in the French and the traditional countries that 214 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: should be stepping up and doing more with regard to defense, 215 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: they're not doing it. And the reason why they're not 216 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: doing it is because they can't afford it either. What 217 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: are they going to do? They're going to go tax 218 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: their populations for more money. Part of the reasons that 219 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 3: you know they don't have the military they can't get 220 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: to five percent of their GDP is because they don't 221 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 3: have the money to do it, the industrial base to 222 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: do it, and so they're in a real pickle themselves. 223 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: So I think Putin looks at that. Putin looks at 224 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: the fact that the United States doesn't want to have 225 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: any part of it anymore, which is why I think 226 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: deep down over the horizon he's still would likely if 227 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: this agreement is not strong enough, that he'll rearm and 228 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: refit in the next few years and try it again. 229 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: He still is on a war footing somewhat inside of Russia, 230 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: and he has more capability, and we haven't pulled all 231 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: the economic levers, and he still has China, North Korea, Iran, 232 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: and other countries on his side, so that's why he 233 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: gets the power he gets from Interesting. 234 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: I'm glad we had you on today. It was a 235 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: perfect day to talk to you. Mike Lyons. You can 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter. I do have some big news 237 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: story breaks at m aj Mike Lions. Thanks for your 238 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: time today, Mike. 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: Great, guys, that's for me. 240 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: That is interesting that it was the vice president coming 241 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: out and saying, Hey, what Pete Hegsath said the other day, No, 242 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: let's let's start over again. Nothing is off the table. Well, 243 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: that explains it. Joe going on about why would you 244 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: take these things? Why would you take away any bargating 245 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: position before you even start, And I hadn't heard anybody 246 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: come up with an explanation really for that. Well it 247 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: turns out he shouldn't have. And now we're starting at 248 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: square one, including jd Vance saying it's not off the 249 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: it's not out of the question to have US troops 250 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. I don't think that'll happen save some real 251 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: craziness of an attack on a NATO country or something 252 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna tell that Valentine's Day story, and 253 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: we've got some other stuff we need to get to 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: so stick around please. 255 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: Taco Bell has announced that will offer a wedding package 256 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: and it's Las Vegas Bulevard location. Then inclus in Elvis impersonator. Okay, 257 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: but is it a real Elvis impersonator or just a 258 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: Taco Bell customer who died on the toilet? 259 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Valentine's Day gets way too much attention, 260 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: just all the way through, and it's all by people 261 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make a dollar off 262 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: of you. It's not actually about romance and love and 263 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: commitment and all the things that you know matter and 264 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: we care about anyway. So to this story, which I've 265 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: teased a whole bunch of times, uh, and I heard 266 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: this first time long ago, and I got permission to 267 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: uh to tell the story, but I will be vague. 268 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: So here we go. Katie picture all this. This is 269 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: a cute fourth grade girl, all right, gets a call 270 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: at home night before Valentine's Day and Dad answers the 271 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: phone and little boy says, is I need a name? Madison? 272 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: There's a very generic girl name is Madison? 273 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: Home? 274 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Sure? Who's this? This is Tucker H Madison. Tucker's on 275 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: the phone for you for some reason, Madison talks to Tucker, 276 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: and Tucker just says, are you going to be at 277 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: school tomorrow? It's the night before Valentine's Day? And uh, 278 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: and Madison says yeah, and and they hang up. And 279 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: then but Dad is not happy that a boy called 280 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: the house, right, and why is a boy calling the house? 281 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: And like some real questioning on that, and stay with 282 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: you boys, and you're in fourth grade and I don't 283 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: know if I like this and blah blah blah. Anyways, 284 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: she get that plays into the story. You got to 285 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. Next day, Valentine's Day, in front 286 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: of the whole class, when they're doing the Valentine's Day 287 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: like handing out cards and stuff like that, Tucker walks 288 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: up to Madison with bouquet of flowers, a little bear 289 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: in a card like full on, I got a crush 290 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: on you. You're my thing, you know, child version of 291 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: I love you? Okay. She takes them, walks over to 292 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: the trash can in front of the whole class, and 293 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: throws them in the trash can. Oh boy, He turns. 294 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Red goes, sits down at his desk, head and hands 295 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: and starts sobbing in front of the whole classroom, the teacher, 296 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: and eventually then all the kids get back in their 297 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: desks and they're getting back to school. Kid is still sobbing. 298 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Everybody knows he's sobbing. Teacher has to go grab the kid, 299 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: pull him aside and try to talk him down and 300 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: saying it'll be okay and everything like that. The bear 301 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the flowers in the card stay in the trash can 302 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: next to the teacher's desk the rest of the day 303 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: for everyone to see, while the kid continues to sob 304 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: all day long. 305 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, oh this is so packed. 306 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I know the poor little boy, I know it. And 307 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, being a first of all, the first time 308 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: in your life you ever have the guts to like 309 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: declare I like you. Then you get rejected in public, 310 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: and then you're crying because you can't control it, and 311 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: then crying in front of your classmates. Fourth grade is 312 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: an age where you're you know, you're really really self conscious, 313 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: so you'd be horrified by that and what everybody's thinking 314 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: of you anyway, and the debris and the. 315 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: Trash can all day in front of the cl right sit. 316 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier. She and she had a long, bad, 317 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: failed marriage. She could change anything in her life. It 318 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't be not marrying that guy. It would be going 319 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: back to fourth grade and not throwing that little boy 320 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: stuff in the trash can, because she's been tortured by 321 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: it her whole life, partially because the kid goes on 322 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: to a life of crime and spends fifteen years in prison. 323 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Fifteen years fifteen years in prison, life of crime, and 324 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: she's certain that that rejection is what set him off 325 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: on his life of crime. Oh, it's totally her fault. 326 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 6: Oh, she she damaged that boy. 327 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: This is a hundred percent true story, by the way, 328 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent true. When I first heard it, I 329 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: was like, mouth open as I heard the story. That's 330 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: what I am right now. I can't believe this. Oh 331 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: you threw it in the trash right in front of him. 332 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: And it was all because she was horrified, like if 333 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: he's not supposed to call my house, I'm not supposed 334 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: to receive stuff from a boy at school. That's what 335 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: drove it. Not a it sounded like a mean girl thing, right, 336 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: but well that's but he didn't know any of the 337 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: backstory either way. It was mean. Oh my god, Oh, 338 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: she created a criminal on Valentine's Day. Oh so your 339 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: Valentine Today's gonna be better than that one, almost guarantee, 340 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: give it. 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: Everybody hope Armstrong and Getty. 342 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 7: Jobs are going to go up and prices could go 343 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 7: up somewhat short term, but prices will also go down. 344 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: See what happens. Nobody really knows what's. 345 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 7: Gonna happen, other than we know that jobs are going 346 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 7: to be produced at levels that we haven't seen before. 347 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: There's President Trump talking about the whole terriff situation the 348 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: economy and asked about inflation and whatever. I was just 349 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: reading Mark Alprin's newsletter for today, and there are so 350 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: many big moving pieces happening at the same time. It's 351 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: impossible for the media to keep up with them. To like, 352 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: even if you're just trying to be like an honest, 353 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: fair arbiter of what's happening, it's really hard to wrap 354 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: your handwright all these different pieces. You know, we're gonna 355 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: take over Gaza, We're gonna force a piece in Ukraine, 356 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: tariffs in all these different countries, some of our friends, 357 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: some of our enemies, all the different stuff, the firings, 358 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: lots of people, lots of people in government getting letters 359 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: finding out their fire today and which I have no 360 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: problem with. But all this and it's just anyway, trying 361 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: to wrap your head around it is amazing. Let's bring 362 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: onto the show Tim Clark. Tim Clark, you might remember 363 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: we talked to him years ago. Tim Clark was a 364 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: guy who was an expert in strategic communications and public 365 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: affairs and government relations and stuff like that. Got brought 366 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: into the Trump campaign back in twenty sixteen when Trump 367 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: got elected for his first term. Knows a lot about 368 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: the way Trump operates and way government operates because he 369 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: was involved in HHS, was White House liaison to the 370 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: US Department of Health and Human Services back in the day. Anyway, 371 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: Tim Clark, welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty Show. 372 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me on. 373 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: You bet you sent me a text yesterday saying, Hey, 374 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: would you like me to come on to talk about 375 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: RFK Junior's confirmation. But before we get to that, just 376 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: in general your old boss and the way he's just 377 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: got so many plates spinning the same time. What's your 378 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: observation of everything that's going on in the first We're 379 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: not even at a month yet. 380 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: No, Well, obviously the US government is bigger than any corporation. 381 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: And President Trump is a CEO first and foremost. And 382 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: when I work for him in the White House, he 383 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: wanted results. He wanted results quick. It wasn't a I'll 384 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: give you this plan in thirty days, it was a 385 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: I'll give you this plan in two days. That's just 386 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: who he is. He demands excellence. And that's going to 387 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: be a really healthy process for the thing that we 388 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: call the US government, which is bloated and cost too 389 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: much and takes too long to do things and waste 390 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: a lot of money. And you've got a CEO now 391 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: that says I'm going to clean this thing up, and 392 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: you partner that up with Elon Musk, and great things 393 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: are happening back there right now. 394 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's interesting to have the expectation of speed. 395 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: If you've spent your whole life in government, you wouldn't 396 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: have that expectation because you expect everything to play out 397 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: over months or many years. That's correct. 398 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: So I was part of the Domestic Policy Council in 399 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: the in the Executive Office of the President, and one 400 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: day the head of the Domestic Policy Council, Joe Rogan 401 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: or Joe Grogan, part that Grogan came in and said, 402 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: the President wants a Western Lands policy. Okay, good, well, 403 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: we'll get the research done. We'll get something done in 404 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: thirty days. Said no, no, no, no, no, it's Friday. The 405 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: President wants him on this desk on Tuesday. Okay, all right, 406 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: we'll just do it, right. That's that's who this president is, right. 407 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: He is a no delay, get it done, show me 408 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: the results, show me excellence, and he honors that, you know, 409 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: he absolutely honors excellence. 410 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: I remember seeing Newton Gingrid just his first term, being 411 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: interviewed about something. I think it was when Trump had 412 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: declared that Jerusalem was the capital of Israel. Now, lots 413 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: of presidents had prompt and talked about it, but nobody 414 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: ever had the guts to do it. And Newt Gingrich 415 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: is talking about regular President comes in, talks about having 416 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: Jerusalem be the capital capital. A whole bunch of think 417 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: tanks put together proposals over six months, they make their 418 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: way through the State Department. The President sees it two 419 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: years from now, then forms a committee that No, Trump 420 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: just announces Jerusalem's capital. 421 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: Now right, yeah, he said, yes, we have a building there, okay, 422 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: but that's going to be the embassy next month. 423 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, i'd the move fast and break things. You know, 424 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley view of handling things doesn't really bother me 425 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: that much. But just in general, a lot of people 426 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: laugh when he actually named RFK Junior as his nominee, 427 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: and then a lot of the mainstream media assumed this 428 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: would get shot down before we'd ever get to a vote, 429 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: or certainly if you got to a vote, wouldn't get 430 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: to confirmed. He is now the Secretary of Health and 431 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: Human Services. That has happened. What do you think about that? 432 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: Well, so, first of all, AGHS is the biggest agency 433 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: of government on the planet. It spends twenty seven cents 434 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: of every sedeal dollars eighty five thousand employees. It's got 435 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: some of the most storied agencies within it, like National 436 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: Institutes of Health and ihcdc FDA, A huge, huge monolith, 437 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: and as we saw during COVID, it just runs at 438 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: its own, at its own speed, and like a stampede. 439 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: In the case of COVID, things came out of it 440 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: that not a lot of people agreed with, but it 441 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: just happened. And so I think RFK coming in now 442 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: our of case seventy one years old, very healthy guy, 443 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: believes in health, wants to restore the value of natural 444 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: immunity and living a healthy lifestyle and things like that. 445 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be really really good medicine 446 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: for this health agency. 447 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: I just do. Let's get back to just the size 448 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: of it. Joe and I didn't know this. I remember 449 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: when we had the and I think you helped us happen. 450 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: You probably made it happen for us. We had the 451 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Secretary of Health and Human Services on Trump's first term, 452 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: and I remember Joe saying something, we kind of onto 453 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Defense, but we got you. And his 454 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: response was, well, my budget, my budget's a lot bigger 455 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: than his. And we're like, WHOA not realizing Health and 456 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Human Services is, as you said, the biggest government agency 457 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: on planet Earth. Just flat out. 458 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, one point seven trillion dollar budget. It's just huge. 459 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: And again, twenty seven cents of every federal dollar spent 460 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: goes through HHS. 461 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: What is going to be the main priority of RFK Junior. 462 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Do you think, well, he's got a lot to do. 463 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: He's already got doze on the ground. Those is going 464 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: through Medicaid Medicare, which are huge programs, and so he's 465 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: got to figure that out. He's got a staff. The 466 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: staff is probably wondering what's going to happen. He's got 467 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: eighty five thousand staff plus a number of contractors. I'm 468 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: almost double that when you add in the contractors. Got 469 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 2: to figure that out. So on the operational level itself, 470 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: he's got a big job to do, and he's got 471 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: a job to do in restoring the transparency. The AHHS 472 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: used to be the gold standard in the world for 473 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: research and for transparency, and here's what's going on. And 474 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: again during COVID, a lot of doctors woke up and said, hey, 475 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: wait a minute, what's happening here. I'm working with a 476 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: group of doctors right now called the Independent Medical Alliance 477 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: the IMA, And these are fifteen thousand doctors who on 478 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: the front lines during COVID had a ce change in 479 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: how they helped about HHS and how it operates. And 480 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: so they've been one of the primary drivers to behind 481 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: RFK and getting him into HS because we need to 482 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: we need to open the opportunity to see everything. We 483 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: need to see the bear's data at CDC and see 484 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: what's happening with these vaccines. 485 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: Can explain that a little more. Why was there a 486 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: c change in the way all these doctors saw AHHS. 487 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, So, for example, the head of this group, guy 488 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: named Joe Verona, has a hospital down in Houston, and 489 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: he was administering the COVID vaccine and he was seeing 490 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: these side effects. He says, wait a minute, maybe we 491 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 2: should slow down a little bit, and AHHS came in 492 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: and just just hammered on him and said, no, you 493 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: either follow the plan or we're going to We're going 494 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 2: to hurt your practice. And he actually started dispensing ivermectin 495 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: and became one of the biggest ivermectin guys in the 496 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: country during COVID. And I talked to Joe the doctor 497 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: Rod who's super compet He says, look, I was one 498 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: hundred percent pro vaccine prior to COVID, and now, based 499 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: on what happened there, I'm still pro vaccine, but I'm 500 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: pro let's find the data and make sure that all 501 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: these vaccines that we're giving. Where you know, give seventy 502 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: two vaccines to infants, whatever happened when they were only 503 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: getting ten, how do they ever survive? But now infant 504 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: seventy two vaccines and these doctors are saying, wait a minute, 505 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: let's make sure everything we're doing is healthy and safe. 506 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 2: Let's just not run like a stampede off the cliff 507 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 2: with some of these things that are taking place. 508 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. That's really interesting. I'm glad we had 509 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: you on. Thanks for reaching out. And if we ever 510 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: are talking about something you know about and you want 511 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: to weigh in, feel free to text or give us 512 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: a call. 513 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 3: Okay, glad to do it. 514 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: Thank you. 515 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: That's Tim Clark. He was the liaison to the Department 516 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: of Health in Human Services in Trump's first term and 517 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: worked on the campaign back in sixteen. I don't know 518 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of people realize that RFK Junior is 519 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: now running the biggest government agency in the entire world, 520 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: eighty thousand employees and just an insanely large budget. But 521 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: I think everybody's view of HHS changed through COVID. Okay, 522 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: you're just or can be. You can be just as 523 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: political as anything else. Obviously, I guess in retrospect, you 524 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: can be just as political as everything else around what 525 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: we shouldn't shouldn't do, or the pressures to support this 526 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: or deny that, and more. Transparency's always the best answer 527 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: on that in my opinion. So the story of the 528 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: little girl breaking the little boy's heart. We're getting a 529 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: lot of texts about that. I will go through the 530 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: texts and and bring you the best ones coming up. 531 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: This little girl is now an adult woman and a 532 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: very nice person, but she's coming in from decent kicking 533 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: on the text line, I don't know what, I don't 534 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: know this is gonna play out. So AnyWho, uh, we've 535 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: got that all the way, stay here. It's Valentine's said, 536 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: you get that. The day after Gallentine's that, the Center 537 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: Radio colleague a text saying are you and your friends 538 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: celebrating Gallantine's Day? And the person said, I am so 539 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: horrified that I now have that phrase in my phone. 540 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, did she reach the phone and smack you? 541 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: But it's Valentine's Day to day? And I told the 542 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: story earlier this hour. It's funny. It got several texts 543 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: saying that's obviously exaggerated or this sounds made up. It 544 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent true. 545 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: I believe it. 546 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: It's awful, very quick version boy like really goes all 547 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: out fourth grade for their Valentine's Day card exchanges the 548 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: way we used to do them back in the old days, 549 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: when they are allowing people to hurt each other's feelings. Anyway, 550 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: boy shows up with a little Teddy Bear flowers card, 551 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: the whole thing for girl. She throws them in the 552 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: trash in front of the whole class because her dad 553 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: had told her to stay away from boys. So but anyway, 554 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: he's crushed and cries the rest of the day. He 555 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: ends up going to prison as a lifelong criminal. She 556 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: believes that that's the reason, which I don't know. You 557 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: can connect those two dots, but it probably didn't. You can, Okay, 558 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: we got some texts about that I was one of 559 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: those unpopular, not cute girls that got hardly any Valentines 560 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: or skunk cards. You probably are too young for this, Katie. 561 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is true. But when I was 562 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: a kid, if you bought a pack of Valentine's Day cards, 563 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: it came with two skunk cards that everybody gave to 564 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: the using my finger quotes ugly girls, which is just horrible. 565 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: But you know how kids are. 566 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 5: And I am too young for that. That's unbelievable. 567 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: It's beyond believing that it actually went on and teachers 568 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: didn't intervene, and so the girls that were either awkward 569 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: or not cute or shy or whatever would get fifty 570 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: skunk cards, like like the day was designed to have. 571 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: By the way, in case you're feeling awkward, here's a 572 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: written document to show that all the boys in this 573 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: class feel this way about you have a nice life. 574 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it is as cruel as anything could possibly be. 575 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe it existed. My jaw is on the floor. Really, 576 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: you didn't know about this. 577 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 5: I've never heard of this in my life. 578 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: I did this first through whenever we stopped sixth grade 579 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: or something like that every year, and we thought it 580 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: was so funny the girls that got the skunk cards. Anyway, 581 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: here this person's texting. I was one of those unpopular, 582 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: not cute girls that got hardly any Valentine's or I 583 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: got the skunk cards. I still, she writes in all caps. 584 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Remember the feeling of disappointment and embarrassment when my family 585 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: was excited for me when opening them at home and 586 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I got skunk cards. That is heartbreaking as anything could be. 587 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: That's evil. I might have kept my kid home from school, 588 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: of course, that might have made it worse. But jeez, 589 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: that it is evil. What the hell some of the 590 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: things that we come up with. Why are we introducing 591 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: love and romance to second graders in the first place. Yeah, 592 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: let's just let's start there. Yeah, let it. Let it 593 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: unfold naturally on its own, because it's it happens at 594 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: different ages for different people, different levels of maturity. And 595 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: then forcing the whole you need to declare who you like. 596 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: Let's declare who's popular and who's unpopular everybody. Let's make 597 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: it even e it's I can't. 598 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: Believe it's already awkward out of place. Let's give them 599 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 5: a skunk card. I was a boy and I dreaded 600 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 5: Valentine's Day every year. I can't imagine being in you know, 601 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 5: anybody but the like three most popular girls. Everybody else 602 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 5: in the class had to hate it awful. 603 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: Yep. 604 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 5: And we had the same thing in our class where 605 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 5: he made the little mail box and people would put 606 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: stuff in there, and it was a four. It gave 607 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 5: me a form of anxiety sitting there because you go, 608 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 5: you know, am I going to get anything? 609 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I was an awkward kid man. 610 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: My son gave a girl and I like you note 611 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: in the fourth gate grade and the girl read it 612 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: in front of the whole class and laughed at him. Dude, 613 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: kids are rud I hate this girl to that day, 614 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: says this parent. Uh. I think the person that actually 615 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: is involved in this story might be listening, But I'm 616 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: reading this text. That fourth grade girl, no doubt, turned 617 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: out to be a horrible grown up. That is behavior 618 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: that is innate, not learned. So sad. Oh boy, Yes, Michael, 619 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: do you think she panicked? 620 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 5: I'm picturing a little girl that maybe was afraid, so 621 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 5: afraid of her dad that she stuff and through it. 622 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: And he's a good dad. It's just emotionally, just new. 623 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to do this. I'm not supposed to 624 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: be interacting with boys. And that's exactly what happened. She 625 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: panicked and through the stuff in the trash can. 626 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it just played out in the worst scenario possible. 627 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: Oh God, when I picture that little fourth grade boy 628 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: sitting there crying in front of the class, Oh, it 629 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: is rough this text a different opinion. His parents should 630 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: never have allowed him to put that little girl on 631 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: the spot. Yeah. 632 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 5: Actually that's a great because, I mean, he didn't buy 633 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 5: that stuff himself. 634 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: No, that's a tough one because my son laid it 635 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: all on the line. And it was about fourth grade. 636 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't for Valentine's Day, but it was just a 637 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: he had a crush on a girl and he decided 638 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: he was going to write her a note about how 639 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: much he liked her and everything like that. And he 640 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: talked to me about it, and I just, you know, 641 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: I told him, you know, you always have to realize 642 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: the possibility that she might not like you too, to 643 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: try to you know, prepare for what eventually happened. But 644 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I thought, it's just, you know, it's part of the 645 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: growing up experience. You're gonna do it at some point. 646 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: But he did that and got fairly rejected and other 647 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: kids found out about it and it was embarrassing and 648 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: he hasn't done it since. And I don't know. 649 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a situation when I was in Oh gosh, 650 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 5: my mom's going to correct me on this. I think 651 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: it was first grade. We're on Valentine's Day. A kid 652 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 5: in our class gave me a very small picture frame 653 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 5: with his picture in it, and I didn't know, I 654 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: didn't know what to do with it, so I, you know, 655 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: thank you and took it home and like the next day, 656 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 5: I guess I didn't talk to him at all or whatever. 657 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:41,239 Speaker 6: And he's gay now. So life is hard. Childhood is 658 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 6: so hard, Adulthood is hard without all this crap. 659 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: It'd be nice if the Hallmark Company or Sees Candy 660 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: didn't add to the pretending that all you care about 661 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: is love and people coming together and not just you 662 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: make a lot more money this time. I'll get to 663 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: some more of those texts a little bit later on 664 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: that topic. It's just it's rough. We got this text 665 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: is kind of funny. Funniest Valentine's Day ad I heard 666 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: on the radio the other day was a line of 667 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: floral bouquets I haven't heard this, called the how mad 668 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: is she? Floral bouquet? And you can choose different kinds. 669 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: There's the silent treatment mad, which is daffodils and daisies, 670 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: Passive aggressive mad, which is two dozen roses, slam the 671 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: door mad, which is a different kind of flowers, peel 672 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: out of the driveway mad you never help with housework mad, 673 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: and different kinds of different flowers for the different scenario. 674 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 2: It's nice. 675 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: There you go. It is nice whenever Joe is Gone 676 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: or I Am Gone. We almost always bring on Tim 677 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: Sanderfer Tim the lawyer who's fan favorite. If you've never 678 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: heard him before, stick around because everybody always likes him 679 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: and wishes he'd come on more often. He had a 680 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: heck of an interesting text today or a tweet rather 681 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: that I want to ask him about, among other things. 682 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: An hour three fem Misus Say gets podcast Armstrong and 683 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: Getty on demand. 684 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 6: Armstrong and Getty. 685 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 7: Mm hmm