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Was that don't okay? 10 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Victory Monday? Well the jingle was new, but was the 11 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: response out Victory Monday and you're out of your turkey 12 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: comas so you could respond. Is always great to see. 13 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: The Victory Monday fan club signage included nice to have 14 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: you here, and before I forget, we will be here 15 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: at Kane Rosso for two more weeks, two more shows 16 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: after tonight, and then we move across the street and upstairs. 17 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: But we get ahead of ourselves. We play one game 18 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: at a time, We do one show at a time, 19 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and this one. I'm so happy that our guest is 20 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys outstanding safety Malik Hooker. Thank you very much 21 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: for coming out been with us, Matt, thank you for 22 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: having me, Thanks for having that. You know, I have said, 23 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times over the years, my 24 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: favorite part of doing this show is the opportunity to 25 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: make you, guys become three dimensional. You're not just numbers 26 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: with cages on your heads. You're actually human beings who 27 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: have personalities, and yours is so great and but but 28 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: people haven't really I don't feel I had a chance 29 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: to really get to know you very much since you've 30 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: been here, because you know, we're still in semi covid 31 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: last year and one thing and another, and but here 32 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: we are, and so thank you, thanks for coming. Yes, 33 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: appreciation for having me again. So um. We were just 34 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: talking a few minutes ago about the fact that Joe 35 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: Trehan is the main booker from the Cowboys PR staff, 36 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: and when he and I were talking about several weeks ago, 37 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: we wanted to have him a leak on and I 38 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: don't remember if we may, I don't believe that we 39 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: made a special effort to do it tonight going into 40 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: the game with the team that drafted you, and but 41 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: for a bunch of injuries, and we'll get into all that, 42 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: you'd probably still be playing for them. So the first 43 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: obvious question is what would let feel like playing your 44 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: old team? For me's a bitter sweet moment, all of 45 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: a sudd I'm gonna come across a lot of the 46 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: guys that I played with, and you know, a lot 47 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: of the coaches that I was there with, So you 48 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a bitter sweet moment. But I'm 49 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to it, looking forward to its crucial part 50 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: of the season right now. I mean a lot of 51 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: people don't know. December is when you know, a lot 52 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: of the best ball gets played. So looking forward to 53 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: taking our best, our best forward going forward to second 54 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: half of the season. How the years you were in Indie, 55 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: how many of those years were you playoff contenders? I 56 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: think we was playoff contenders two of those years. The 57 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: first year was without Andrew lugging In. One of the 58 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: years is when he first came back. Last year he played. 59 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: So you can maybe tell people what's it like for 60 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: a player, you know, for fans, if the year's not 61 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: going the way they wanted to go, then okay, they 62 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: write something nasty on Twitter, and they call and curse 63 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: somebody on the radio, and then they go to Christmas shopping. 64 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: For players, it's a whole different deal. And I'd like 65 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: you to tell folks what is like going into December 66 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: when you are in major playoff contention. What's that feel like? 67 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: It feels like you're like your schedule. Honestly, it's just 68 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: like real backed up because you know, you gotta do 69 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: a lot of like the family time, a lot of 70 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: Christmas shopping, and you know around that time that's when 71 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the family wants to see you obviously 72 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: for the holidays, So you got to try to fit 73 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: that in while I'll still maintaining trying to do your 74 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: study in and your game plan and everything that you 75 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: normally doing a routine week, while you know, like I said, 76 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: doing that throughout the Christmas shopping and stuff as well. 77 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: So sometimes it gets a little you know, mind boggling 78 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But you know, that's what we're 79 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: professional for. You know, like I said, I've been doing 80 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: it for a good amount of years for me to 81 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of know what my routine is around this time 82 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: of year, and what is that so for me, like 83 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: I said, well, now it's a little different now because 84 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: I had a baby girl last year. So normally for me, 85 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: though I appreciate that he really didn't do any of 86 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: the work, but I didn't do none of the work. 87 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: But so around this time, like I said, I like to, 88 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of just reach out to a lot 89 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: of the relatives because once season hits, you don't talk 90 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of your family members as much as 91 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: you would like to, you know, And that's a crucial 92 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: thing for a lot of the guys because we don't 93 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: get much time off, especially when you're playoff to contenders. 94 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Obviously everybody knows the season ends around February for you know, 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and everything, So you only get like 96 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: three or four months when the season's over for you 97 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to kind of get your free time, your breath, fresh air, 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: and your vacation time as well. So it's kind of 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: like you gotta honestly kind of have like a team 100 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that kind of helps you, you know, 101 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: playing that stuff out. Like I have a great financial 102 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: and business team that kind of helps me. You know. No, 103 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: when I'm gonna be free with trips, we're gonna take 104 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: as far as my daughter and my ladies time with 105 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: trips I'm gonna take for myself. I also just will 106 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: visit them, gonna do for back home and stuff, because 107 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: I gotta still go back home and see my mother 108 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: and stuff as well. So that's kind of how it 109 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: goes for a lot of the guys. By the way, 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: we welcome those of you listening anywhere on the Cowboys 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: Radio Network. Always especially happy to see those of you 112 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: who have come out tonight to Kanne Rosso to be 113 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: with us live and wherever you're listening around the Cowboys 114 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Radio Network and wherever and whenever you're streaming on Dallas 115 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com looking a little box and wave to 116 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: the people league, Yeah, they're there on Cowboys dot Com. So, um, 117 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about the thing that people Cowboy fans are 118 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: really kind of fired up about looking forward to, and 119 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: that's the way your defense has played is playing and 120 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: what specific challenges. I think every single team you have 121 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: left is a threat to run for five hundred yards 122 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: in the first half. I mean, that's that's just how 123 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: they're all built. How do you assess take the pulse 124 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: of your defense right now for me, so right now, 125 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: for us we're kind of, like I said, uh, based 126 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: off of I mean, you're seeing the game where we 127 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: had gave up a lot of rush yards against Green 128 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Band and everything. You know, we kind of knew after 129 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: that week that you know, that was a big emphasis 130 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: for us going in the second half of this season 131 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: because obviously we play I think the Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry, 132 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: Damien Pier So there's a lot of you know, obviously, 133 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, big time running backs that we play see 134 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: coming up down the road, and we know that the 135 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: run game was gonna be emphasis for us. And you know, 136 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: obviously we're still working through the little stuff that we 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: got to fix and you know fix I mean scrape out. 138 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: But right now, that's just the main emphasence for us. 139 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Once we knocked out the run game, I feel like, 140 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know what we got on third time 141 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: as far as pass rushers, that those guys make a 142 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff for the secondary on the back 143 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: end easy. So we just got to nail out the 144 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: run game and I feel like everything else from near 145 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: take care of us. So what's the key, sorry, what's 146 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: the key in being successful in the run defense? Because 147 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: we you know, against the Vikings it was really special 148 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: because you guys were up so much. So when it 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 1: comes from a defensive standpoint, what's the key to stop 150 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: in the run? As simple as it sounds for a lot, 151 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the inst is going to say the same thing, 152 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: as simple as to sound. It's just about you know, 153 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: doing your job. You know, because everybody in that point 154 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: of the game, when it's a run game, it's schemed 155 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: out schematically for each guy to have a certain gap 156 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: that they got to fit and fitted a certain way 157 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: for another guy to be able to fit off a bit. 158 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: So it's just honestly about just doing your job. So 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: if it takes one thing, as if somebody gets over 160 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: no reached or something like that on a play where 161 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: guy's supposed to fit, then it's knocking off three of 162 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: the other guys that's supposed to be fitting behind it. 163 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: And people don't see that because it just looks like, 164 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, the guys are slow. But that one mistake 165 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: from the detackle whoever it may be, can you know 166 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: slow a lot of stuff down on the defensive. And well, 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: that's the thing I love most about football any other sport. 168 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: You were a basketball player, I mean, if you let 169 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: me let me, guess point guard I play. I mean, 170 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm not tall, but I played one through five. Of 171 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: course it did. So, I mean in basketball, at most levels, 172 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: if you've got a good a really good big man, 173 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: whether he's a four or five, and a really good 174 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: point guard, you can compete. You may not win a championship, 175 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: but you can compete. And and if you've got three 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball, you can win. But in this sport, 177 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna have ten guys do their job perfect and 178 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: one guy do what you just said, and the play 179 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: doesn't work and the play doesn't work right. And so 180 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: so the thing that's amazing to me is the way 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: you guys communicate. And it seems like it's even better 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: than it was last year. Is that correct, Yeah, it's 183 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: it's definitely a thousand times better, just because everybody kind 184 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: of knows what everybody strength says, what the weaknesses is, 185 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: and it kind of makes it easier for you to, 186 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I guess, anticipate what the guy's gonna do as far 187 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: as on our side of the ball, because I know 188 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: for a fact that Navan Wilson, he's going to run 189 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to the ball and he's gonna make you know, plays 190 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: and fill up a lot of the plays that guys 191 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: might mess up or I might mess up myself included. 192 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: So it's just certain stuff that once you play with 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: each other and even off the field camaraderie that you 194 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: you talk to these guys for so long that you 195 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of know, you get a feel for things that 196 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: you can kind of get away with and you guys 197 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: can kind of work on with and things that you can't. 198 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: So going off of that, dan Quinn has spoken a 199 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: lot about the chemistry that you guys have it from 200 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: the very beginning up until now, and I mean it's 201 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: kind of rare to have that chemistry off the top 202 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: kind of like you have. But what's the key in 203 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: developing that as the season goes or knowing what Donald's 204 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: going to do in those situations like you just talked about. Honestly, 205 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: it's about seeing him do his job weekend and week 206 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: out once a guy, because we I don't know if 207 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people knows how the great scales goes. 208 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: So it goes like you get missed those signments and 209 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: you get missed a lignements based off of you know, 210 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: depending on if you did your job correctly or if 211 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: you did your job, but you was a line wrong. 212 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: So when I see that he has none of them 213 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: wrong every week again a week out, and I know 214 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: he's going to consistently be there in his area his 215 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: body's supposed to be, it makes it easier for me 216 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: because then I know that I don't have to worry 217 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: about trying to overplay a play to make a play 218 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: for somebody else because I know he's gonna be there. So, 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: like I said, as simple as it sounds, it plays 220 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: a big factor because you have to have a lot 221 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: of trust and knowing that that guy's gonna be there 222 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: for you. Like say, if Anthony Brown knows I have 223 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: insight help and he has to be really willing to 224 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: trust to know that he can give the post up 225 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be there. So that just makes it 226 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: a lot easier for us on that end in that communication, 227 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: and camaraderie helps that. Jayron Curse talked when we had 228 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: him as a guest on here. He talked about how 229 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you and Donovan and himself were the three headed monster. 230 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: How have you guys kind of developed I guess in 231 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: that mantra or kind of embraced that nickname. I honestly say, 232 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: just based off of our different types of play styles. Obviously, 233 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: you know j K, he's kind of well, he's a 234 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: lot bigger than us to us too, you know, he's 235 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: six four and he's able to cover. He might, he 236 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: might right now, he might a little bit right now. 237 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: So just that instinct of him being a lot bigger 238 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: than me and Donno and a lot taller and being 239 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: able to play that linebacker role gives him a little 240 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: bit more freedom to be able to play certain positions 241 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: on the defense as well as Donovan as well, because 242 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: he's he plays the box just as good as JK 243 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: as well, and he's a little smaller. So it just 244 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: that kind of put the roles to where Donovan Jnsno 245 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: is as the hard hitter, Jk's more of the cover guy, 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: and I'm more of the ball hawk from the interceptions 247 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: and stuff that I came with when I first was 248 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: brought here. So that's kind of how we developed those 249 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: roles of being the three headed monster based off of 250 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: our skill sets and kind of what the defense scheme 251 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: too as well. The defensive schemes help us a little 252 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: bit to where, like I said, JAK can be a 253 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: little more free roamer and a defense if that makes sense, 254 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: so does. We are just getting started on getting to 255 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: know Malik Hooker. We're so happy to have Malik with us. 256 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: The shening. We are at conne Rosso in the Star 257 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: District in Frisco, and we'll be right back on The 258 00:13:05,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys Are Cowboys m to the Miller like Cowboys Hour 259 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: supported by Albertsons. Welcome Back to the Cowboys Hour, presented 260 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: by Luke Casey, the official bootmaker of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 261 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: We are here on Victory Monday. A month ago you 262 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: couldn't say Luke Casey, and now and it rolls off 263 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: your tugue, and now you can't say cheerleaders. I got 264 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: mixed up in my reads here because they're they're different. 265 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: So I fixed it up. We went Luke Casey first. 266 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: But understand, like I said, Victory Monday, Victory Monday, I 267 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: gotta get better at that. I gotta tee them up better. Yeah, 268 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: have they gotta respond? I mean some of them are eating. 269 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: It's hard when they's got a mouthful of food. So 270 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: some of these people have talked with their mouths full before. Trushman. 271 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Trushman is fair. We are here with Malik Hooker, Malik, 272 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: I want to kind of take you back to the 273 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: beginning of our conversation that we were having. Obviously, your 274 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: return to Indianapolis you mentioned it was going to be 275 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: bitter sweet. But the transition period from going from one 276 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: team where you're drafted that's kind of where you found 277 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: your home for a few years, to making the transition 278 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: to a new team. You're learning a new defense, you're 279 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: building that chemistry. Can you just talk about what that 280 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: process was like for you. When I first kind of 281 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: knew the process of me about to be a free agent, 282 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: it was it was actually really stressful for myself because 283 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: it's like, man, you gotta pack up everything you got 284 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: and whatever state you're in and depending on men. Luckily 285 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: at the time, I mean not luckily, but I was 286 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: hurt at the time, because if you're not hurt, you 287 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: can just get dropped and then picked up and you 288 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: gotta just hurry up and go to that that state 289 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: or whatever team it is right right the next day. 290 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: So luckily I had time. But just the thought of 291 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, trying to readapt to a whole new team, 292 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: a whole new coaching staff, a new community and stuff 293 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: like that, you know, for myself, it was going to 294 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: be extremely difficult. But luckily when I got here, like 295 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I said, a lot of the community. It's funny because 296 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: my first time I'm here, the first day I had 297 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: went to a restaurant at AID and that was how 298 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I knew like this was the place for me because 299 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: the people that I was in there, they didn't know 300 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: me or nothing. I didn't say nothing about football, and 301 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: just the hospitality that they gave me and how nice 302 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: they were and everything like that. So I knew kind 303 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: of that day that you know, this is kind of 304 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: the place that I wanted to be and uh, that 305 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be here for a long term. So 306 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: then after being here for a year and kind of 307 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: meeting the guys and you know, being out in the 308 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: community and doing a little bit of stuff like that, 309 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: it's like, man, Dallas is a different place, like hospitality wise, 310 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: food wise, Like I loved Dallas, my family come to 311 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: love Dallas. And I should have listened to my lady 312 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: because she brought it up before we got down here. 313 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: She was It's funny because we always right because she 314 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: wanted to move down here, and I was like, I 315 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: don't know, because we didn't had like the storm down 316 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: here not too long ago. I'm like, I don't know, 317 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: but I ended up getting down here still, and now 318 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: it's like we might be here long term. So it 319 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: all worked out. And then I want to go back 320 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: further because there are some people people who have probably 321 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: forgotten because we live in a very compressed time of 322 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: attention span. Yeah, man, this man is the fifteenth player 323 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: in the draft in his in his draft year twenty 324 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: and seventeen, twenty seventeen. So you were on the championship 325 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: team in Ohio? Was Zeke? Yeah? And both? Is it 326 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: true they had to separate Zeke and Bosa? Man, it 327 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: might be a little true. It might it might be. 328 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: It might be a little true, and because not because 329 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: they didn't get along, but because they got a little 330 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: a little well too much. And it's funny because a 331 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of the guys that's here now, like Noah Brown 332 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: was my roommate when I first when we first we 333 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: came in the same class in two thousand and fourteen. 334 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: So it's like life comes around full circle, all right. 335 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: So you're from Pennsylvania. Why are you Why did you 336 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: not go to penn State or pitt Honestly, I kind 337 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: of wanted to get away from being home a little bit. 338 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to get out of you know, trying to 339 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: be homesick and stuff like that. So Columbus wasn't too far, 340 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: but it was far enough for me to be away 341 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: and kind of, you know, start getting on my on 342 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: the two feet, you know, without my mom being around. 343 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: So I wanted to go there and put my I 344 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: guess my print on there instead of having to do 345 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: it like the other guys around the area, which was 346 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: like pitt and Penn State and stuff like that. Well, 347 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: you absolutely did that, and that's how you got to 348 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: be the second safety pick. Jamal Adams was ahead of you, yeah, 349 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: and the first the fifteenth pick in the draft, and 350 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: so we were talking about this before we went on 351 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: the air. But when you are the fifteenth picking the draft, yeah, 352 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: you probably think, Okay, I'm in Indianapolis. They picked me fifteenth. 353 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here for the rest of my life, 354 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: didn't you as there's definitely the first thought you think 355 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: of because it's like you have so many expectations, and 356 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you know the expectations that are you know, supposed to 357 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: be of you. So it's like you want to hit 358 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: those expectations, those goals, and those accomplishments that are set 359 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: for you, and you know for you not to do it, 360 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: or not to at least at the time be on 361 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: the way to doing so. You know it can be 362 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: difficult for some guys. So one of the things that 363 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: I you know, there's there are so many great stories 364 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: on any team, Hayley. You've played great stories on every 365 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Succo time on a championship college soccer, So there are 366 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: great stories on every every team, good and bad. When 367 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: you win a championship or contend for one, those stories 368 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: get to get told. You're one of the reasons I 369 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: hope this team has a nice long run because I 370 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: think that the stories of how the injuries from which 371 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: you've come back injuries plural. To put yourself in this 372 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: position to be a starter and a leader on a 373 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: championship caliber defense, that's a tremendous example for young kids, 374 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: and it really can be in any walk of life. 375 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: So I gotta I try to get a list here. 376 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: When was the first time you got hurt? I came 377 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: out for the draft with a torn labor and my 378 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: hip and I had a bilateral sports turn year as well. 379 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: Did you know it at the time or did you 380 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: find that at the combat. No. I found it out 381 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: a little bit after the season because I played my 382 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: last three calls games with that and I thought it 383 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: was just like a growing strain, and I ended up 384 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: having to get scans after the season and ended up 385 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: finding out that that's what I was. That was nice, 386 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean obviously what I had. So once I figured 387 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: that out, I ended up having a surgery, came out, 388 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: had a good first half of the year. Starting off 389 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: my rookie year, I had like three interceptions in the 390 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: game a couple of games back to back, and by 391 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: it was the seventh game of the season, I want 392 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: to say, like before halftime, I ended up getting hit 393 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: in my knee and toward my ACL on my MCL, 394 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: so that was my first one. So I want to 395 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: go back for a second, because until I always thought 396 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: the labor was in the shoulder. You learned a lot 397 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: about the body shoulders and I didn't they are, but 398 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know that the one in the hip was 399 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: called a laborum until Tyrone Crawford, who was a tremendous 400 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: player here and really tough, uh tore the labram in 401 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: his hip tried to play with it, and so that's hard. 402 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: How did you play even a game with this? Uh? 403 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: You just got to try to rehab it, honestly, and 404 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of ever proofing. It was like rehabbing a 405 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: lot of proof and because it's like the pain was 406 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: wasn't really something that was tolerable for a lot of people. 407 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: So I was just like, man, I gotta make these 408 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: last three games because you know, then seeing the game 409 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: last week or house stating the team up North, it's like, man, 410 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: I gotta play in this game. Say I can't. I 411 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: definitely can't say that after after Saturday, But it was 412 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: like I had to play play in that game, and 413 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: you know it was last game of the season, so 414 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: I had to fight through that and I ended up 415 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: making it and still luckily and you know, thankfully, was 416 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: able to be drafted the fifteenth pick of the draft. 417 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: So the the knee injury was in Indianapolis in your 418 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: rookie year, and knee injury on both knees. I had 419 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: ac MCL on my right and end. Then I had 420 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: a meniscus in two nineteen on my left knee. And 421 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: you and you rehab that and when did you tear 422 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: your achilles. I tore my achilles in two thousan twenty. 423 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: I came right back from I want to say my 424 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: meniscus not too long after, and literally was just took 425 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: like two back pedals and just tore my achilles. I said, 426 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: I ended up happening, But I did that in two 427 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty. So you understand that when you just 428 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: you and it just kind of rolls off your tongue 429 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: out like, yeah, you know, I backed into the fact 430 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: that you are playing professional football at the extremely high 431 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: level you're playing it with that list of injuries just 432 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: within the last three or four years. To me, it's 433 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: a tremendous testament to your determination and your work ethic. 434 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: What do you think about it when you look back 435 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: at it. Honestly, I look back at it and I 436 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: just think, like, man, it was just hunger. Like, you know, 437 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: I knew what I was capable of. I knew the 438 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: talents and know the gifts that I was blessed with, 439 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and I wanted to show everybody else that. So it 440 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: was like every time that's something like that I happened, 441 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: it was like, all right, well, now they didn't they 442 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: really don't believe I'm going to come back from this injury. 443 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: So now I gotta fight back twice. It's hard to 444 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: get back from that. And you know, it wasn't just 445 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: necessarily that. I know, I had a great support team 446 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: as well. Behind that. Even some of the guys from 447 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: the colds I still was talking to and there was 448 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: no pointing directions as far as my rehab and stuff 449 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: like that. So it was like I had a great 450 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: support system of resilient and you know, like I said, 451 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I just kept my you know, my head down and 452 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: believed in my faith and knew what I wanted to accomplish. 453 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: And that's what really got it done for me. So 454 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: it's not the motivation that kind of keeps you going 455 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: now that same kind of i'll prove you wrong type mentality. Yeah, 456 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: it's it's like now for me, like it's like I've 457 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: been here, I've been a worser positions, you know, Like 458 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: you said, I list the injuries, A lot of guys 459 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: you know that they don't come back from that. So 460 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: one of them I've done it for the major injuries. 461 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Had a lot of people don't come back from like said, 462 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: I had to at least and I had the aclo 463 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: and people don't come back and him I forget that. 464 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: So it's like now for me, like anything anything else 465 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: is small, like I ain't got nothing else. Really in 466 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: my mind, I look at it as I don't got 467 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: nothing else that can be harmed in that way. In 468 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: that way, you know, I've done all my bad harm 469 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it, as far as 470 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: that my bad juju. I got it all out. So 471 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: now you know, I just go out there with a 472 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: clean mind, clean heart, And you know, I know what 473 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: it took back to getting me here. You signed you 474 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry you signed just before training camp last year? 475 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: At what point after that? Because you I knew, I 476 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: know you were confident, but you got to prove to 477 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: yourselves because you know what you are when you're not hurt. Yeah, 478 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: when did you realize? Okay, I really am back and 479 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: now I'm fixing the show. Folks whom Malay Cooker is. 480 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like, I'll say two things. When 481 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: you make a play, when you finally make a play 482 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: in practice, believer, or now you come back from that 483 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: injury and you're getting the guys coming, they're jumping on 484 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: your stuff like that, that kind of is a welcome homent, like, 485 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: all right, I'm back from an injury, and you know, 486 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: just saying certain bursts and stuff that you've seen from 487 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: yourself before. Once you get to you, because you'll know 488 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: your body and stuff like that. Once you've been through 489 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: so so so many injuries and stuff, like I said, 490 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: you learned the body. You start to realize and know 491 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: the stuff that ain't right, you know. So once it, 492 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: once it came down to that, I already knew that. Uh, 493 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: I forgot what I was about to say. So when 494 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: when did you know you were back to being all 495 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: of mala? So once it once it came back to 496 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: me kind of knowing that I was gonna be a 497 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: fooled back was once, like I said, once I've seen 498 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: the plays and me bursting on the field and the 499 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: plays that I made, that was when I kind of 500 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: knew that I was gonna be bad. Now that you 501 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: kind of we've gone through the laundry list of all 502 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: the injuries you've been through, how does your approach change 503 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: when it comes to that prehab. I think jay Ron 504 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: Curse was the one to talk about the importance of that. 505 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: But just you're approaching that and it's crazy because I 506 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: used to go off a saying I used to be 507 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: like Cheeta's own stretch, you know, when you're I used 508 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: to tell I used to say that I was, and 509 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I used like, man, I'm che I'm gonna just wake up. 510 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: I ain't got a stretch. I'm able to just get 511 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: out there and run. But the older you get, you 512 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: really start to realize. So it's like, now, like I 513 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: got a good friend, you have no idea. So it's like, 514 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: now I gotta go through like a whole process of 515 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: like warming up in the hot tub and getting stretched 516 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: out before I even get a stretch on the field. 517 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of you know, the thing 518 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: that I noticed more about myself now. You know, I 519 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: take that a little more seriously than I did when 520 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: I was younger, because you know, you you had that 521 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: mindset I'm be young forever. And then the injuries having 522 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: be like I ain't superman. Now, Uh, you now see 523 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: why we were so anxious to have Malik Hooker here 524 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: this evening. We will have your questions for those of 525 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: you who are here at Kinne Russo uh for Malik 526 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the program. But first we're 527 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: gonn take one more break and we'll be right back 528 00:28:50,520 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys Hour to the Miller like Cowboys album 529 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: supported by Alfredson Fucome Back to the Cowboys the Hour 530 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: presented by Albertsons. When it comes time to shop for 531 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: tailgate favorites, go to Albertson's and Tom Thumb. Get ten 532 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: percent off your groceries every time Dallas Cowboys game day 533 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: when you wear your Cowboys jersey, Albertson's and Tom Thumb, 534 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: the official supermarket and pharmacy of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm 535 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: glad they brought that music down. I feel like I 536 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: was shouting that where are your Cowboys jersey? To Albertson. 537 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the idea perfect. Were joined here with 538 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: Melie Cooker. We've been talking football injuries. Emilie. One thing 539 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, and I'm glad that you 540 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: brought it up. When we were talking about your injuries, 541 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned the support that you had and getting through 542 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: that and that was helpful. Just talk to me about family, 543 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: how important that is to you, How important your family 544 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: has been to you in this journey up until this point. Yeah. No, 545 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: once you I'll say, like from the recruiting process, once 546 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: you go through a process. For me, my mother she 547 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: was like my my agent, I guess you say. And 548 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: my mom she's a basketball of fense, so she didn't 549 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: really know that much about football, so she had to 550 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: do a lot of like research and study in and 551 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: really to understand the game to kind of provide the 552 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: stuff that we needed at the time for me to 553 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: get to where I wanted to be as far as 554 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: the NFL and stuff like that. So when we got 555 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: to the NFL, we already kind of been through the 556 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: process of eliminating, you know, the people that you know, 557 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: we felt like wasn't around and you know, the guys 558 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: the people that come around once you end up making 559 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: money and stuff like that. So that kind of helped 560 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: me a lot through that process because of the fact 561 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: that I already knew who I was able to trust, 562 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: to tend to know, already have my salt, my solidified 563 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, team for me in my background, and it 564 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: it's still it's funny because my team, when I say 565 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: my team is my siblings, I got two sisters, two 566 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: older sisters. My older sister she's like my might as 567 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: well save my business managers, might as well say, And 568 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: my middle sister, and I got two younger brothers, and 569 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, with whatever decision I make, you know, we're 570 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: in a group chat and we talk about stuff like that. 571 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: So that was more so the support that I needed 572 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: and stuff like that just keeping me out of my mind, 573 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: off of you know, going to that deep place, because 574 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: once you have something significant like that happened, you can 575 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: tend to get into a deep place. And you know, 576 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: like you said, we were just talking about some guys 577 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: might have no retired or stopped playing after that. But luckily, 578 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, they kept giving me that motivation. I keep 579 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: pushing it and that mindset that they knew that I 580 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: can do it more than I could myself, you know, 581 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: And that's all somebody most of the time needs. What 582 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: do they do for a living. Your siblings my seventh 583 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: so my oldest sister, she works at a school kids 584 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: or I'm an oldest sister. My middle sister, my oldest sister, 585 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: she's kind of like a like I said, she's all 586 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: around you might as will say my businessman because she 587 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: helps a lot of stuff from me on the side 588 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: too as well. So my mom, she's a teacher as well. 589 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: My youngest brother, he's more like he works like a 590 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: nursing home. And then my youngest brother right now, he 591 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: transferred to why he's playing football there right now? Wow? 592 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I already knew. I did not want to 593 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: mess with your mother or but so much respect for them. 594 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: So during the break, I asked the league if after 595 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: the Achilles, the Achilles, that ends a huge percentage of 596 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: the careers of any athlete who has that injury. You 597 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: had it after the HL and the MCL and the 598 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: labor them and the look, and a lot of guys 599 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: would have shaid up, okay, God, I hear you have 600 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: listening and you said, no, I've got one more in there. 601 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: I got I got more fighting, and like I said 602 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: this back to my mom, and I'm like they was 603 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: more so when I say I got one where they 604 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: was like, man, you got this, you can you can 605 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: check back from this so you can make you be 606 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: the player that you want to be. So when I 607 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: said I got one more of me, I was like, man, 608 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: if something significant like that would have happened again after that, 609 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: then maybe I probably wand up. But the fact that 610 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: you know, my mother and then was able to give 611 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: me that the words of encouragement believing myself. Like I said, 612 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: at that time, it was a dark spot for me 613 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: as far as you know, dealing with the injury. So 614 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: for them to have that light and you know, just 615 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: you got this, you got this, and then on top 616 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: of seeing the progression at the time, that's what kind 617 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: of helped me get through. That's away tight. Yeah, we 618 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: always been tight because like I said, it's always been 619 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: me and my Selman's all under the same household and everything. 620 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: So we've always been real close knitted families up from 621 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: since we was young. Because it's family, they can be 622 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: supportive and say you've got this, we know who you are, 623 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: we believe in you. And you could say, yeah, you know, 624 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: I love y'all, but this is my body that I'm 625 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: in over here and you don't know what this feels like. Yeah, 626 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: but that's my why, you know, like I said, my family, 627 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: that's my why. That's why. You know a lot of 628 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: the stuff that I fought through, that was what was 629 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: helping me get through that because I know, you know, 630 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: once they put that you know, belief in me, and 631 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: they're who I'm doing it for, you know, why wouldn't 632 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: I get out there and try, you know, give it 633 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: another shot. You know, that's how I looked at it. 634 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I not another layer to that you just 635 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: talked about earlier as well, your new baby girl. How 636 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: has that shifted your mindset her focus? As far as fatherhood? Oh? Man, uh, 637 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: let's say this first off, I forgot about the part 638 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: of parenthood that you got to you gotta teach the 639 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: kids how to use the bathroom. I forgot about that part. Yes, 640 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: yes you knew, why, yes you knew? Right now? Just 641 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: to update my daughter, she's seventeen months right now, so 642 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: you know, she's roll right now in the phase of 643 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: where we're trying to teach her how to use the 644 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: party and it's fun and that's a problem sess as well. 645 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: So fatherhood for me right now, man, it's actually what 646 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: makes games like the Green Bay Game a lot easier 647 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: to take because you go home, and you go home 648 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: and you put these these young you know, human beings 649 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: in your arms and you're like, man, this is really 650 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: a younger me, you know, a little me. So that's 651 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: why I'll say fatherhood, Man, it's everything for me right now. 652 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: You know. It's was keeping smile on my face even 653 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: when days feel longer you know things like that. So 654 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more thankful than you know, having my 655 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: baby girl. The great thing about them is for a 656 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: few more years, you've got this where when you come in, 657 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: they don't know if you want or lost or care. Yeah. 658 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: That's another thing too, because I mean right now she's 659 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: just smiled. So she get older, I feel like she's 660 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: going to be an athlete and stuff, and you know, 661 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: based off of how many her mother's were real competitive, 662 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: so she might you know, get the trash talking if 663 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: I lose down the rows. Oh, I wouldn't say that 664 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: based on everything you said about all of your family. 665 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: Uh that you you may you might have until she's 666 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: about seven before you come in the door and she Dad, 667 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: what were you thinking on that character? That's what I 668 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: was gonna say, she's gonna have. We had to go 669 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: through the film at that point because she get on 670 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: me like that. I'm hat to correct my mistakes and 671 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: let her know. I love getting to talk to you guys. 672 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: I think every single guy who we've had on Cowboys Hour, 673 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: and then guests that I've had on First and Ten 674 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: as well, have all been fathers. And it's so my 675 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: favorite part of asking that question. It is just seeing 676 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: the way you guys immediately light up any chance you 677 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: get to talk about your baby. I think most of 678 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: you guys except Mica may or not Mica um Michael 679 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: has a little boy. But everyone else so I've talked 680 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: to I think has a little girl, and I say, 681 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot of girls. There was 682 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot of girls, I want to say, for the 683 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: last two year has been a lot of girls all 684 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: the team. So you know, it's been special for a 685 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: lot of guys because now we can really relate and 686 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, go on there have our funny stories about 687 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: our kids as well. So do y'all share stories with 688 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: each other about man, We talk about that all the time, 689 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: you know, because it's funny because you know, for us 690 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: right now, we're not used to having the kids a 691 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: lot like that, you know, because you know, depending on 692 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: how it would you it is like my daughter goes 693 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: to school and everything in the morning, and she comes 694 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: home in the afternoon, and by that point I'm just 695 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: now getting home from work and she has a bed 696 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: time and everything. So when I come home, it's like 697 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: I gotta try to hurry up and get all my 698 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: fun and stuff, and in that little short of time 699 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: before both our bed times because we both got to 700 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: get up early the next day. So it's like you 701 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: just appreciate stuff like that in that little process and 702 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: stuff like that. So she does she know yet that 703 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: it's Christmas time and all the I mean, I think 704 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: she kind of knows something specials going on because my daughter, 705 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: like she she she realized. Notice its a lot of 706 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: stuff that I wouldn't think she would at this age. 707 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: So I think she knows that it's like a holiday 708 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: because she keeps asking for a lot of candy. I 709 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: think she shot but I think she knows it's a 710 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: holiday going on. But you know, well, we'll start putting 711 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: up the Christmas decorations and you know, the Christmas movies 712 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: and everything, and starts showing her that you know that 713 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: Christmas spirit. What's been your favorite moment of fatherhood so far? 714 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't honestly say when I had her. When I 715 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: first had her, they letting me know, go through the 716 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: whole process. I don't even think needed the doctor. They 717 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: let me put Yeah, let me point out, you didn't 718 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: do any of the work. I did everything this time, honestly, 719 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: Like they let me. I literally hand delivered my daughter 720 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: and everything from I was the first one to touch 721 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: and everything. So I mean you were the second one 722 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: to touch her, well other than her mother. Yeah yeah, yeah, 723 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: but yeah, yes, So for me, that was the main 724 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: thing for me. I mean I knew that was gonna 725 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: be the most special thing for me because you know, 726 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: I said, I, uh, as far as fatherhood, I knew 727 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: that this was like planned out from eight as as 728 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: far as for me and my lady. So it made 729 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: it that much more special and I wanted that special 730 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: moment to be the best one. Sam, when I asked 731 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: him that same question, he said something along the same lines, 732 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: but he goes, yeah, when he came out, it was weird. 733 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: For see, Now I was cool. I was cool because 734 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: I man, I already prepped myself forward. You know, I 735 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: had seen a little a couple of videos stuff like that. 736 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: So when the time came, I was pretty you know, 737 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: pretty calm when time came. And it wasn't that bad. 738 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad, all right. Um, Before we have 739 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: to share our next break, Hailey was asking about bowling 740 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: before we were on the air. Talked to him about that. Yeah, 741 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: it just seems it's so interesting the things that you 742 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: guys are interested in outside of the field. Bowling has 743 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: been the reoccurring theme. Jay Ron Curse told us he 744 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: has five custom bowling balls. You mentioned Micah has custom 745 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: bowling ball. So what is it with bowling in the Cowboys. 746 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like no one of hits 747 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: a certain point that well, in the off season when 748 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: we're not playing football, we all think we're professionals in 749 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: every other sport. So you know, this had the past 750 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: offseason we had professional corn hole players professional bowling, So 751 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: right now, I feel like bowling's the sport where we 752 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: know that we can kind of be good obviously because 753 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: we have strength and we can kind of you know, 754 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: throw the ball accurately. So this off season we went 755 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: bowling and Mica he brought his own ball. JK brought 756 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: his own ball and everything. So we definitely had to 757 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 1: get another session because I feel like without my own ball, 758 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm better than those guys. So we're definitely got to 759 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: get our own sessions. So now you have to get 760 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: your own bowling ball, and then all of y'all are 761 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: going to have to do if it gets to that 762 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: point where I feel like they're looking too good for 763 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: me as far are throwing the ball and everything, I'm 764 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna definitely had to get my own ball 765 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: because I don't like losing and I know they ain't 766 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: going to losing that either. Because you're losing something like that. 767 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: They talk about that for the rest of the years. 768 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: You don't here to end up until you so I 769 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: can't let that happen. But Lake Hooker's our guests this 770 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: evening on the Cowboys Hour. We are at Conne Rosso 771 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: in Frisco, the Star District. Your questions for the Lake 772 00:42:21,200 --> 00:45:25,479 Speaker 1: when we come back to the Miller Like Cowboys Hour 773 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: supported by Albertsons, we are back here at Kane Rosso 774 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: for Cowboys Hour, presented by Papa John's, Better Ingredients, Better Pizza. 775 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: Papa John's, the official pizza of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm sorry, 776 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: can I interrupt you? From one? Isn't it great? This 777 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: is you? You? You I'm stylish. If you are not 778 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: following I'm Stylish Hayley on Twitter and Instagram, yeah then 779 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: you should because you are style. This is nice. This 780 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: is actually shout out to you because you told me 781 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 1: I never wear any cowboys so this is my jacket 782 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: this is a very slick jacket. It's a it's got 783 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: this cool doomsday patch on the inside too. So shout 784 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: out to my boyfriend marself for buying this for me. Okay, 785 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's good. It's warm. I was told 786 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: I don't wear enough cowboys gear. So, um, are you 787 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: a Are you a what ones was known as a 788 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: clothes horse? Are you big into clothing? No? No, if 789 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: I could, I'll wear sweat sweats every day, my man. 790 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: If I could, because j Ron Jay Ron I found 791 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: out last year. Oh man, he he thinks he is GQ. 792 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, Ron does dress nice though. I ain't gonna 793 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: lie here. Oh I ain't gonna lie. He definitely he 794 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: can definitely dress. I mean some of the stuff that 795 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: he wears, I wouldn't be able to pull pull it 796 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: off myself personally, But I feel like, no, JK. He 797 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: definitely has his own style. What's What's something you've seen 798 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: him wear that you would not even try to wear? 799 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know. I can't. I can't even 800 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: say go to think of something that maybe maybe when 801 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: he wore the last home game, I was gonna say sweater, 802 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: the sweater I could do the sweater, but the rest 803 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: of the fit, like I just ain't that stylish for 804 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: me to pull that off. Like that's him Jak, he 805 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: can pull that off like that. Jay Ron is much 806 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: more like his fashion is not like trendy fashion. It's 807 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: very much like what you would see. I'm like New 808 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: York fashion. Yeah, like it's very that niche of like 809 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: designer fashion versus like I think Dak has good fashion, 810 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: but he's very much more like buttoned up fashion. Zeke 811 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: I think is a little trendy. Yeah, I'm more just 812 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot needed some sweatpants and a sweater. PD is 813 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: very trendy. He CD. I think it's like a blend 814 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: of trend and designer. I am a total Malik hooker. 815 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm more so like I like sneakers more so like 816 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm more in the sue how many pairs I used 817 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 1: to have, man, I used to have a bunch. I'm 818 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: actually not that bad now. I'm probably I probably gotta 819 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 1: like forty pair right now. But before I probably I 820 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: gave a lot of way because I had so many 821 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: of them starting to overfill my clothes out. It's probably 822 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: at like seventy pier and I was still in coming 823 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: like I'll have boxes of shoes and stuff. But I 824 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: mean I'm more so now, like I'm just more so. 825 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say sneakers. It's more so 826 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: the color frame of the sneakers, like the color frame. 827 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: How many of them are still in boxes that have 828 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: never met your feet? Oh, I don't like them. Don't 829 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: like that out of forty, I'm not even gonn lied 830 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: about thirty out of forty like I'm because because you 831 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: figure my routine, I don't really do nothing outside of 832 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: my routine. Like I got the same routine even in 833 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: the offseason, Like I'll go work out after my workout, 834 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: I do family time, and I like to just be 835 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: around the house like I'm real laid back and like 836 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: being in my own space, you know, stuff like that. 837 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: I would have more questions along this line for you, 838 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: except that I know my own habits and I have 839 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: no room to ask you. No, no, no no. I 840 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: collect other things. It's yeah, how many pens do you 841 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: think human being can use at one time? I use 842 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: a lot of pens. Yeah, so probably as I like you, 843 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: I like fine writing instruments. I am way too many. 844 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: That's fair. You want to know this one that's not 845 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: That's not a strange thing though, because I catch myself 846 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: like that too, Like I like, I like utensils that 847 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: kind of have like a real neat right into it too, 848 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: like pain. Yeah. Yeah. And then if it's really if 849 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: it's something in the craftsmanship and what it's made of 850 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: and all of that, it almost becomes an accessory. Yeah, 851 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: talking about pens. Hey hey, hey, hey, hey, all right, 852 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: we've got Cowboy answered with questions for Malie Hooker. Good 853 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: evening with Lea. My name is Rambo. Great, thank you. 854 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: So the NFC East race is very very tight right now, 855 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: and I think I could speak for a lot of 856 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboy Nation fan base, but we're all holding our 857 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 1: breath waiting for Philly to hit a slump. I know, 858 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: we were cheer running out of calendar, Rambo, We're a 859 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: cheer for Aaron Rodgers last night. So last night were 860 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: you and Aaron Rodgers or Jalen Hurts fan? Man? I 861 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: honestly didn't even watch it, Honestly, I uh man. At 862 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 1: the time of the game was going on. I think 863 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: I was putting baby girl to bed. But I mean, 864 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: if I had to pick, I would have been Aaron 865 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers fan for sure. I would have been Aaron Rodgers 866 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: fan for sure because we need that. And then they 867 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: got to see us again the second half of the season. 868 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: What's up, lad, My name is Cory Um. My question 869 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: is what's the difference between year one, Um and year two? 870 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: Just being on the dan Quinn system, not only for 871 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: you as as well as a team. And do you 872 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: think you got a little a little motivation on the 873 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 1: Sunday placing your whole team Sunday night. Yeah, I'll say 874 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: the comfortability, Like like I told them earlier, once you 875 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: get to being in the building and you know, knowing 876 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 1: the characteristics of a lot of the guys that you're 877 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: working with, and you know, building that karatie and that 878 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: comfortability with those guys, you start to be able to, 879 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: you know, come out on the field and like I said, 880 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: do stuff that you normally a lot of guys wouldn't 881 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: be able to do, just for a simple fact that 882 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: we have a great defense here, we have a great 883 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: team here, and we got a lot of great athletes 884 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: here as far as that, so that that takes away 885 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that we well, other guys 886 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do. So I feel like going 887 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: into Sunday though, Uh, you know, I'm just looking forward 888 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: to playing man, I'm not you know, looking forward as 889 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: no other team. It's it's just, you know, I want 890 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: to be wanting to know and just keep this thing going. 891 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: My name's Tanner, Go Cowboys. My question is, uh, the 892 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,760 Speaker 1: intensity playing in the NFL versus playing in a championship game? 893 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: Which one is more intense when you play? Say it again, 894 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: I didn't hear you say it again, when you play 895 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: in the regular NFL game? What was more intense than 896 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: playing in your championship game? My championship game in college 897 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: or yes, yes, in college, I'll probably say the NFL 898 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,359 Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously, you know, like fans know you're 899 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 1: you're grown and you know you're an adult, so they 900 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: don't hold back from you in the NFL. But in college, 901 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, you don't get as bad. You might get 902 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: a couple of fans that you know, have a little 903 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: bad mouth here and there, but it's not as bad 904 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,240 Speaker 1: as that. So I'll say more so that So even 905 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 1: in Columbush Yeah, yeah, I mean I luckily I started 906 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: off on the right foot, so they loved me and 907 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have to deal with that. But I mean 908 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: they can get pretty ugly in Columbus too. Man. If 909 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: you're not winning that championship game, correct me if I'm wrong. 910 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: Was it at and T Stadium Stadium? What did you 911 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: think of it then when you went in there with 912 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: Ohio State for that championship game? When I went there, man, 913 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: I was so shocked then because it's like when you 914 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 1: walk into there, it's so bright, and you know, you 915 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: hear about you know, America's team, and you get in 916 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: there and you see it and it's like, man, this 917 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: is what I see on TV all the time, and 918 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,439 Speaker 1: you know, we start thinking about the people that played 919 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: on that stadium and then you finally go there. Man, 920 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: it's just like a life a dream come true. Man. 921 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: It's it's something that's unexplainable. And I mean at the 922 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,280 Speaker 1: time I wasn't playing, so I got the fully cherished 923 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: and you know, and take that whole moment and you know, 924 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: so it was just as beautiful as it was Dan, 925 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 1: it is now. And how do you feel about it 926 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,839 Speaker 1: now that you that's your office now? Man? Like I said, now, 927 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: like it's still smearre to me to be able to, 928 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: like I said, call myself a Dallas Cowboy because you know, 929 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 1: I'm coming from another team. It's not like it's too 930 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: much different as far as how things are ran, but 931 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: just the buildings, it's not all the same. So you know, 932 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: we're very we're very you know, thankful here and very 933 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: blessed to be able to walk in this bill here 934 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: because it's beautiful and like I said, even just this 935 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: outside of here is very nice. So yeah, by which, 936 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: by the way, an excellent point any of you listening 937 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: who have an opportunity to during the Christmas season what 938 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,439 Speaker 1: they do here at the Star is in the whole 939 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: Star District. It's just magnificent. I mean, it's just gorgeous. 940 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: In fact, I just turned around and looked and realized 941 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: that on the big screen on the Ford Center we're 942 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: on there, and I, oh, we are. Yes, I almost 943 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: fainted when I saw myself that I'm big, but that's 944 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 1: that's too big. Yeah, it's beautiful. You really need you 945 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: need to come out, bring the kids, bring the family. 946 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: It's just beautiful here. Hi, guys, I'm super honored to 947 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: be here. I'm actually visiting you guys from Oxnard, California. 948 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 1: Oh man, we love oar appreciate. I do too. That's 949 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: why I live there, and I'm super stoked when you 950 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: guys come and visit us over there. Have great practices 951 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: and the fan interaction is always amazing. It's how I 952 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: became a Cowboy fan in nineteen to eighty actually was 953 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: through practice my cap. My dad's a Raiders fan. It's right, 954 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: it is hey, okay, okay, so excited to be here. 955 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: How does it feel to wear number twenty eight for 956 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. It's funny because when I first when 957 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: I first knew that I was coming here and I 958 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: was told that I was getting the number, I'm like, man, 959 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want all the backlash from 960 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: this number, because you know, everybody in Dallas Cowboys Nation. No, 961 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: this is a special numbers, a unique number, and it's 962 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: a number that I feel like, you know, should be retired. 963 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: So when I first came here, I honestly didn't want 964 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: the number, and you know, but at the same time, 965 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: when I was putting it, it was like, Man, the 966 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: standards high, and it's like I want to uphold the 967 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: standard as much as I can. Hopefully he means proud 968 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 1: of how much how good I play for him so far? 969 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: Do you know, Darren, I don't know him. I mean 970 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, but yeah, you met him. No, 971 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: not yet, not yet? What he I'm fixing to text 972 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 1: him right now. That's that's just wrong because he was 973 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 1: a second round pick A. He'd done a lot better 974 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: than me. Man, that's hoping. I'm up holding the jersey. Okay, 975 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: that's a photo off waiting to happen. Darren Wochond and 976 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 1: Malay Hooker right now. Um, okay, so we've got about 977 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: we got about a minute left. Um. Beginning of the year, 978 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: Dak gets hurt. You guys are phenomenal, and I think 979 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: it allowed Cooper Rushed to have the success that he 980 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: had and he was great. He didn't and we've had 981 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: Cooper here. Um, how is it different for you guys 982 00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: in the month since Dak's been back. Honestly, it hain't 983 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,399 Speaker 1: been there. Were still prepared the same way as if 984 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: you know, Dak wouldn't be out there, because at the 985 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, we feel like if 986 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: we uphold our end of the game, I mean on 987 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,959 Speaker 1: our side of the ball as far as not letting 988 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: team scored, and you know, it's easy for the offense 989 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: because all they gotta do is, you know, score, So 990 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: whether Dak's out there or not, we just always had 991 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: the same mentality that we wanted to be the most 992 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: dominant team in the NFL. And you know, we're still 993 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: working towards that and right now I feel like, you know, 994 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: we're pretty on pace for it. You know, based off 995 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 1: of the steps we've been taking these last couple of weeks. 996 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: What's the biggest lesson that you've learned about yourself throughout 997 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: this five six year process? H adversity, Man, you gotta 998 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: be able to handle it. You gotta take your wins 999 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: with your losses, because they're definitely gonna happen, you know, 1000 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: whether it's on the field or off the field. You know, 1001 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: plays are gonna happen. Guys get paid just like I do, 1002 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: so I know players are gonna be made on me. 1003 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna make plays, so I gotta be 1004 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: able to stay pretty much complacent when I make the plays. 1005 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: There if I don't make the plays, I'm getting you 1006 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: together with Darren what that's my mission now, I'm gonna 1007 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 1: try to make it happen this week. Thank Malay Cooker 1008 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,439 Speaker 1: for being with us. Really appreciate you. 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