1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perilla offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,399 Speaker 2: Joined by the newitch member of the Patriots Hall of 5 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: Fame Mike Gravel. 6 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 8 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 9 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 10 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 4: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 12 00:00:55,799 --> 00:01:02,679 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past. Anywhere you get your podcasts. 13 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 5: To move, especially from right side to the left side. 14 00:01:03,319 --> 00:01:06,518 Speaker 6: Very difficult, you know, you're especially when you have years 15 00:01:06,559 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 6: of experience at one side. But I think you know, 16 00:01:08,878 --> 00:01:10,519 Speaker 6: you got to get the reps to kind of make 17 00:01:10,559 --> 00:01:10,958 Speaker 6: that work. 18 00:01:11,119 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 4: You know. 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,079 Speaker 6: It's like, you know, if you're right with your right 20 00:01:14,119 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 6: hand and then going to your left hand, obviously it's different. 21 00:01:16,598 --> 00:01:19,799 Speaker 6: I wouldn't make it make the claim that it's that difficult, 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 6: but there are difficulties there, and it's more so just 23 00:01:22,999 --> 00:01:25,318 Speaker 6: kind of how comfortable you are you know, flipping things 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 6: in your. 25 00:01:25,559 --> 00:01:28,238 Speaker 4: Mind, it's just it's it's just an opposite flip. 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,359 Speaker 6: So you have the movement patterns, but the mental if 27 00:01:31,399 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 6: you can flip it in your mind, that's one thing. 28 00:01:33,158 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 6: But the movement patterns, that's that's takes some time. 29 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:37,879 Speaker 5: What you guys see from last weekend that led you to, 30 00:01:38,078 --> 00:01:39,999 Speaker 5: you know, moving Mike to left guard. 31 00:01:40,639 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: We just put Mike in there this week for just 32 00:01:42,719 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 4: some reps. 33 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 6: We're trying to get guys make sure that because he's 34 00:01:45,359 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 6: kind of, like I said, he's. 35 00:01:46,359 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: Our best player. 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,199 Speaker 6: He's a good football player, and you know, you know, 37 00:01:50,279 --> 00:01:52,719 Speaker 6: for him, it's we're asking a lot of him to 38 00:01:52,759 --> 00:01:53,039 Speaker 6: do that. 39 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 4: But but really we just have to we prepare with. 40 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:58,599 Speaker 6: Contingencies every week because you know, obviously we've had a 41 00:01:58,639 --> 00:02:00,799 Speaker 6: lot of different lineups, so you got to always kind 42 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,439 Speaker 6: of look ahead and see where guys need to go. 43 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 6: If if you had someone to go. 44 00:02:03,599 --> 00:02:06,159 Speaker 7: Down, it's putting Laden at left guard and maybe just 45 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:08,478 Speaker 7: keeping my get the spot where he says he's most comfortable. 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,279 Speaker 6: You know, it's always a thought to move guys around again, 47 00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:14,039 Speaker 6: to have some ability with contingencies, because you go into 48 00:02:14,079 --> 00:02:15,879 Speaker 6: a game you say, well, I'm gonna you know, this 49 00:02:15,959 --> 00:02:18,559 Speaker 6: is our lineup, but things change throughout the course of 50 00:02:18,559 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 6: a game, so you want to have guys have reps. 51 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:23,279 Speaker 6: But for Leyden, I mean, he's a rookie and we 52 00:02:23,358 --> 00:02:25,558 Speaker 6: try to do you know, it's a tough tough job 53 00:02:25,559 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 6: as a rookie to come in and play, so so 54 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:29,439 Speaker 6: we try to do as much as we can to 55 00:02:29,478 --> 00:02:32,638 Speaker 6: try to let him really focus on an area. But 56 00:02:32,879 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 6: he certainly has taken the left guard reps. 57 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:37,599 Speaker 8: As well at different lineupstraw So it's been kind of 58 00:02:37,599 --> 00:02:40,879 Speaker 8: frustrating with so many different combinations. Have you also had 59 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:41,918 Speaker 8: some frustration about that. 60 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:44,958 Speaker 6: Well, I don't spend time getting frustrated. We spend time 61 00:02:45,038 --> 00:02:47,879 Speaker 6: like looking for solutions. I think the issue is I 62 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:50,238 Speaker 6: think that it would be optimal to say that we've 63 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:53,358 Speaker 6: had continuity, because you do get better week by week 64 00:02:53,399 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 6: and guys get used to playing in the same position 65 00:02:55,359 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 6: or together, and there's all that, and you know that's 66 00:02:58,399 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 6: a goal for sure. The benefit of having a lot 67 00:03:00,839 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 6: of moving parts is guys get experience and exposure and 68 00:03:03,719 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 6: on some level you're building, you know, some versatility, which 69 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,279 Speaker 6: is important to have, as you guys know, because of 70 00:03:09,279 --> 00:03:11,599 Speaker 6: the the nature of the NFL with all the injuries 71 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 6: that go on. So on some level you're building something there, 72 00:03:14,279 --> 00:03:16,719 Speaker 6: but on another level, you'd like to really say, hey, 73 00:03:16,758 --> 00:03:20,198 Speaker 6: let's dig in and try to see some continuity over 74 00:03:20,199 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 6: the weeks, because that's where you see your gains. 75 00:03:22,519 --> 00:03:24,358 Speaker 9: What is it that you've seen from Mike that makes 76 00:03:24,399 --> 00:03:26,719 Speaker 9: you believe with just three practices he'll be able to 77 00:03:26,999 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 9: kind of make that switch you talked. 78 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:31,999 Speaker 6: About earlier, Well, Mike is Mike is a good like 79 00:03:32,038 --> 00:03:34,999 Speaker 6: I said, Mike's a good football player, and Mike has 80 00:03:35,239 --> 00:03:38,599 Speaker 6: a lot of experience from the metal perspective, He's played 81 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:41,679 Speaker 6: the most. He's a guy that you know can just 82 00:03:41,759 --> 00:03:43,879 Speaker 6: kind of he operates. It's it's not a big deal 83 00:03:43,879 --> 00:03:46,279 Speaker 6: to him. He's pretty calm and steady. So for him 84 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:48,439 Speaker 6: to go in in really any position, to be honest, 85 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:49,039 Speaker 6: he's he's been. 86 00:03:49,999 --> 00:03:52,679 Speaker 4: You don't miss a beat on Ladon Robinson. 87 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:56,399 Speaker 10: What has led to him getting these opportunity you said, 88 00:03:56,399 --> 00:03:58,359 Speaker 10: it's a rookie is hard to like transition. What has 89 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:00,759 Speaker 10: led to him getting this opportunity to start and getting 90 00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:02,599 Speaker 10: so much playing time over maybe some of these other 91 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:03,959 Speaker 10: experienced guys you have in the room. 92 00:04:04,119 --> 00:04:05,639 Speaker 4: Well, Layden's a strong powerful kid. 93 00:04:05,679 --> 00:04:08,879 Speaker 6: He's a good player, you know, but being a rookie again, 94 00:04:08,959 --> 00:04:11,159 Speaker 6: you're coming into the NFL with a lot of adjustments 95 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:13,559 Speaker 6: on a weekly basis, and uh, he's done a good 96 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:15,759 Speaker 6: job for the most part with that. But we like 97 00:04:15,799 --> 00:04:19,758 Speaker 6: his physical his physicality and he's a hard worker, and 98 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 6: uh he's got a good future. 99 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: What do you see in so far? I know he's 100 00:04:22,599 --> 00:04:24,319 Speaker 4: only got here a couple days ago. 101 00:04:24,318 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 11: With Terrese Robinson, Tyrese. 102 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:28,199 Speaker 4: Uh, we like him so far. He's a strong kid, 103 00:04:28,318 --> 00:04:28,838 Speaker 4: real strong. 104 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:31,118 Speaker 6: I mean just getting him in the him and getting 105 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:34,319 Speaker 6: him you know, reps obviously, getting and teaching him h 106 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 6: is the key. So for him to uh to elevate it, 107 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 6: you know, it's just going to be a learning process. 108 00:04:38,438 --> 00:04:40,118 Speaker 8: I know he hasn't been back a practice yet, but 109 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 8: with col Strange, is there a vision for what position 110 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 8: he's going to be playing when he does come back? 111 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,399 Speaker 6: Uh, you know, we've we've honestly been working with the 112 00:04:47,399 --> 00:04:49,638 Speaker 6: guys we have and we're looking forward to getting Cold back. 113 00:04:49,678 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 6: But but Cole's good player, so when that time comes, 114 00:04:53,239 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 6: will address it. 115 00:04:53,919 --> 00:04:56,559 Speaker 4: You talked about contingencies. We joked with Mike this summer 116 00:04:56,599 --> 00:04:57,438 Speaker 4: about playing center. 117 00:04:57,558 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 11: He kind of said, yeah, well, you know, whatever. 118 00:04:59,119 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 6: You need, I mean, yeah, I mean, if anybody could 119 00:05:01,599 --> 00:05:03,959 Speaker 6: do it'd be by Yeah. 120 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:03,999 Speaker 4: The city. 121 00:05:04,039 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 7: So I know, he was a starter last year, looked 122 00:05:05,719 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 7: like a starter throughout the summer, gets hurt and it 123 00:05:07,599 --> 00:05:08,959 Speaker 7: seems like it's had a he's had a hard time 124 00:05:08,958 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 7: getting back in the lineup. Just curious what exactly was 125 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 7: behind that, Like, is does it seem like it's kind 126 00:05:12,799 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 7: of an injury thing, Is it just technique. 127 00:05:14,359 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 6: Or it's kind of a combination of things. But he's 128 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:18,678 Speaker 6: doing a good job coming back, you know for City, 129 00:05:18,799 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 6: you know football, he's relatively young and new to the game, 130 00:05:22,438 --> 00:05:24,998 Speaker 6: and so for for him, he's doing an excellent job. 131 00:05:24,999 --> 00:05:27,519 Speaker 4: He's a smart guy, he's a tough guy. He's got 132 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 4: a lot of attributes. 133 00:05:28,318 --> 00:05:30,878 Speaker 6: So you really like so you know, we're you know, 134 00:05:30,919 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 6: continuing to work with him and again in multiple spots 135 00:05:34,919 --> 00:05:35,238 Speaker 6: when you. 136 00:05:35,198 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: Watch your run game, just what are you seeing? Is 137 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,678 Speaker 2: it schematic? Is it fundamentals? Like what do you sees? 138 00:05:41,119 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 6: Well, uh, you know, there's a combination of things that 139 00:05:43,599 --> 00:05:46,158 Speaker 6: that haven't been up to par. And uh, the first 140 00:05:46,198 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 6: thing that we don't accept is mental errors. And so 141 00:05:48,558 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 6: we've had a couple of those and key moments, and 142 00:05:51,239 --> 00:05:54,079 Speaker 6: I think certain areas where it hasn't been. 143 00:05:54,039 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: As physical as we like it to be. 144 00:05:55,719 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 6: But that's been an emphasis point for us, and so 145 00:05:57,958 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 6: the guys know what they need to do in the expectations. 146 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,319 Speaker 5: A question about stunts, maybe it is in general, so 147 00:06:05,519 --> 00:06:08,438 Speaker 5: you have two offensive lineman guard tackle blocking one guy 148 00:06:08,479 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 5: and then there's you know, someone wraps around. Is it 149 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 5: the job of like the guard to sort of slide over? 150 00:06:13,799 --> 00:06:15,519 Speaker 5: Is it the quarterback to recognize it? You know, I 151 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:16,638 Speaker 5: guess what what's your depends? 152 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 4: It depends on the protection. You know, you have protection rules, 153 00:06:19,678 --> 00:06:22,439 Speaker 4: you follow those. So largely the. 154 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,199 Speaker 6: Offensive end is the defensive lineman. And if I was 155 00:06:25,198 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 6: gonna give you a general rule, but but a lot 156 00:06:27,958 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 6: of it's pending that you know the protect rules. 157 00:06:30,719 --> 00:06:33,319 Speaker 4: Where where and who has who? But yeah, the stunts 158 00:06:33,359 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: are stunts. 159 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 6: A definitely probably the hardest thing in that alignment has 160 00:06:36,919 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 6: to block, you know, and in protection, but as far 161 00:06:40,599 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 6: as who has who, definitely a concept that kind of 162 00:06:43,359 --> 00:06:45,078 Speaker 6: falls back on schematics. 163 00:06:45,318 --> 00:06:48,759 Speaker 2: Is that all post snap reaction for alignment or is 164 00:06:48,799 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: there a way to kind of tell. 165 00:06:49,759 --> 00:06:54,519 Speaker 6: That, well, you know, like situationally that in certain fronts 166 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 6: dictate you know, you'll see more stunts than others, but 167 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,318 Speaker 6: you see you see tendencies in certain depth and demeanor 168 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 6: by the defenders. But really, you don't. You don't go 169 00:07:03,318 --> 00:07:05,158 Speaker 6: out there predicting what kind of stunt there in your run. 170 00:07:05,159 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 6: You just have to take a great set. 171 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 10: We've seen you utilize that, as you call it, the 172 00:07:08,879 --> 00:07:11,359 Speaker 10: jumbo tight end. We're all a lot more of this season. 173 00:07:11,719 --> 00:07:13,719 Speaker 10: Has that been an effort to get the run game going? 174 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:16,078 Speaker 10: What's kind of the motivation behind using that so often? 175 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:18,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to get guys out there down the field, 176 00:07:18,159 --> 00:07:20,479 Speaker 6: get bigger players out there in the field, and and uh, 177 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:23,159 Speaker 6: you know you use you use those guys in different capacities, 178 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:24,799 Speaker 6: but one of those is the run for sure. 179 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:27,919 Speaker 12: What are you were thought about Ben Brown and your 180 00:07:28,039 --> 00:07:29,358 Speaker 12: center situation overall? 181 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:31,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, then I mean to. 182 00:07:30,958 --> 00:07:32,559 Speaker 6: Have someone come in and be able to operate the 183 00:07:32,599 --> 00:07:37,159 Speaker 6: offense with such limited exposure has been pretty impressive. We're 184 00:07:37,239 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 6: just you know, now, we're like, okay, you're here, now, 185 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:41,599 Speaker 6: let's let's continue to develop. So he's done a nice 186 00:07:41,679 --> 00:07:44,519 Speaker 6: job taking ownership and leadership of really running the show 187 00:07:44,719 --> 00:07:46,999 Speaker 6: for a guy that just got here. So so We're 188 00:07:46,999 --> 00:07:49,639 Speaker 6: happy with that, but we're trying to, you know, take 189 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:50,518 Speaker 6: the next step with him. 190 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 2: There was a player early run play earlier he had 191 00:07:53,599 --> 00:07:56,639 Speaker 2: City Eligibles playing full back, and I just noticed that 192 00:07:56,958 --> 00:07:59,479 Speaker 2: Andre went the other way, like he didn't follow him, Like, 193 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:02,439 Speaker 2: what are some of the advantages to you know, city 194 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:04,398 Speaker 2: leading but not necessarily following. 195 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 6: Right, Sometimes when you when you bring the full back, 196 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:10,399 Speaker 6: you know, you pull a linebacker away, or you get 197 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:12,958 Speaker 6: a different you know, you get a better look certain ways, 198 00:08:12,999 --> 00:08:15,719 Speaker 6: and sometimes you lead and sometimes he follows, and sometimes 199 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 6: it's designed to go the other way. 200 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:21,598 Speaker 4: Thanks, Cavis, appreciate. 201 00:08:21,999 --> 00:08:24,039 Speaker 9: We got to talk to Alex yesterday and he was 202 00:08:24,039 --> 00:08:25,599 Speaker 9: talking about a few of the things that he'd like 203 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:28,038 Speaker 9: to see Drake can prove on. One of them was 204 00:08:28,239 --> 00:08:29,598 Speaker 9: play action ball handling. 205 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:33,799 Speaker 11: How much do you guys work on that? Is that? 206 00:08:33,958 --> 00:08:35,399 Speaker 11: How much can one. 207 00:08:35,239 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 9: Little detail like that really impact a play in your opinion? 208 00:08:38,839 --> 00:08:40,879 Speaker 13: Oh, absolutely, work on it. We've been working on since 209 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:43,279 Speaker 13: the spring. It's just not some you know, under center 210 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 13: back to the defense, your ability to fool the defense. 211 00:08:47,879 --> 00:08:49,958 Speaker 13: Some of these play action concepts is really important that 212 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:53,039 Speaker 13: you're getting the backers to step up, and so every 213 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 13: little detail matters from the a ligne to our ball 214 00:08:55,999 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 13: fake to the running backs involvement in that too. 215 00:08:58,039 --> 00:08:59,399 Speaker 11: So it's a big part of what we do. 216 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,919 Speaker 9: How do you are there examples that your show like 217 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 9: the one that pops into my head, like Peyton Manning 218 00:09:04,599 --> 00:09:05,999 Speaker 9: always got a lot of credit for being like a 219 00:09:05,999 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 9: really good ball faker, Like, will you show him videos 220 00:09:08,879 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 9: and guys that go back that far? 221 00:09:10,599 --> 00:09:11,359 Speaker 11: Is it just video of him? 222 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:14,279 Speaker 13: I mean we have we have a VP on tapeka 223 00:09:15,239 --> 00:09:17,479 Speaker 13: doing some of these fakes. So AVP showing that one? 224 00:09:19,439 --> 00:09:20,239 Speaker 4: How is he? How is he? 225 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:21,639 Speaker 11: I mean you must be pretty good if you're showing 226 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 11: him in the room. 227 00:09:22,359 --> 00:09:24,159 Speaker 13: Yes, AVS fakes pretty good. You got to ask him 228 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:25,239 Speaker 13: about it. You have to tell him to pull the 229 00:09:25,239 --> 00:09:25,879 Speaker 13: tape and bring it in. 230 00:09:25,999 --> 00:09:29,759 Speaker 9: Lefty right, left, right, Okay, maybe it's a lefty. I 231 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 9: feel like I've heard about a lefty. Like the guitar, 232 00:09:32,999 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 9: there's some guitar. The guitar level, that's part of it. 233 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,879 Speaker 14: Have you seen any evidence yet of team spying Drake? 234 00:09:42,199 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 14: And if not, do you anticipate that as something that 235 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,919 Speaker 14: might happen to go forward given how well he's runs 236 00:09:49,999 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 14: or scrambles. 237 00:09:50,999 --> 00:09:52,999 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean definitely, Like there are some third down 238 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 13: situations where you can have you know, whole players that 239 00:09:55,879 --> 00:10:00,399 Speaker 13: can also help with the quarterback run game. But as 240 00:10:00,439 --> 00:10:03,399 Speaker 13: far as we go that it doesn't really affect, you know, 241 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 13: how Drake goes through his progressions and plays the game. 242 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 13: But I think for sure, if he continues to you know, 243 00:10:08,599 --> 00:10:10,159 Speaker 13: pick up yards on the ground, they're gonna have to, 244 00:10:10,319 --> 00:10:11,399 Speaker 13: you know, have an answer. 245 00:10:11,119 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 9: Somewhere when it comes to some of his decision making 246 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:19,958 Speaker 9: in real time, like you know, reading a certain defender. Okay, 247 00:10:19,999 --> 00:10:21,838 Speaker 9: he goes there, I'm thrown at the short guy or 248 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:23,838 Speaker 9: I'm thrown at the deep guy. How has he been 249 00:10:23,959 --> 00:10:26,159 Speaker 9: in that regard? How much has he improved in the 250 00:10:26,199 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 9: time since he's he's been starting these games? And is 251 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,799 Speaker 9: that a strength his do you feel I do feel 252 00:10:31,839 --> 00:10:33,879 Speaker 9: like there's a strength. He is a super fast processor. 253 00:10:34,799 --> 00:10:36,519 Speaker 9: He sees the field really really well. 254 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:37,958 Speaker 11: Even if you. 255 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 13: Watch you know, his first interception from last week, he 256 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,919 Speaker 13: saw the defender take another route. Now he ended up 257 00:10:44,439 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 13: kind of being out of rhythm with his footwork and 258 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 13: moving and then trying to throw it, but he saw 259 00:10:48,359 --> 00:10:50,999 Speaker 13: the defender. He just came off of it late. So 260 00:10:51,079 --> 00:10:53,359 Speaker 13: he sees the field well, he processes very quickly. It's 261 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 13: definitely a strength. 262 00:10:54,119 --> 00:10:57,919 Speaker 9: Is is it ever from the quarterback standpoint, is it 263 00:10:57,959 --> 00:11:00,239 Speaker 9: ever difficult knowing that this is a new offense for 264 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:01,759 Speaker 9: a lot of these guys he gets the rookies that 265 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:05,359 Speaker 9: have been in the NFL period. If there's ever sort 266 00:11:05,359 --> 00:11:09,119 Speaker 9: of you know, a detail or some spacing that's not ideal, 267 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 9: does it make it harder for him in those situations 268 00:11:11,959 --> 00:11:14,479 Speaker 9: to be able to read things out, you know by 269 00:11:14,519 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 9: the book? 270 00:11:14,959 --> 00:11:15,159 Speaker 4: Yeah? 271 00:11:15,199 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 13: Absolutely, I think you know, with any offense, spacing is 272 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 13: a big deal. 273 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:20,279 Speaker 11: Timing is a big deal, and so that's why it 274 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 11: takes all eleven. 275 00:11:21,399 --> 00:11:23,119 Speaker 13: Takes all eleven to be in the right spot at 276 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 13: the right time and then for Drake to read it 277 00:11:25,359 --> 00:11:27,999 Speaker 13: out correctly on time with his feet, And so if 278 00:11:27,999 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 13: any one of those parts, whether it's Drake or somebody else, 279 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 13: is messed up, it definitely makes it harder on everyone. 280 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:39,238 Speaker 14: Would you say Drake has a good demeanor for a quarterback, 281 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 14: I mean, he seems nothing seems to kind of rattle him. 282 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:44,359 Speaker 14: He just seems kind of calm. 283 00:11:45,119 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 4: You know. 284 00:11:45,839 --> 00:11:47,279 Speaker 11: Have you noticed that as well? 285 00:11:47,359 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 9: For sure? 286 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 13: I think I think you noticed that on tape at 287 00:11:49,799 --> 00:11:52,359 Speaker 13: Carolina from you know, we so we watched all his 288 00:11:52,359 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 13: postgame press conferences as well. He's a very positive even Keel. 289 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,279 Speaker 13: I think you saw it on tape in college. I 290 00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:02,879 Speaker 13: think he definitely fulfilled that when he got here. You 291 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:04,238 Speaker 13: could see early in the preseason. 292 00:12:06,039 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 11: So definitely, have you guys. 293 00:12:08,159 --> 00:12:11,359 Speaker 3: Said discussions of and like it's kind of two part question, 294 00:12:11,439 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 3: but about trying to find ways to scheme Drake's mobility 295 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:18,919 Speaker 3: into the offense, you know, versus him just scrambling, and yeah, 296 00:12:19,039 --> 00:12:22,039 Speaker 3: can you do ways that maybe he doesn't actually take 297 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:24,759 Speaker 3: those extra body blows but kind of just affects the 298 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:27,359 Speaker 3: defense that he has that option to run. 299 00:12:29,159 --> 00:12:31,119 Speaker 13: You know, I want to give away too much of 300 00:12:31,199 --> 00:12:33,359 Speaker 13: you know, our plans, but I think definitely using his legs, 301 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:35,999 Speaker 13: whether it's running or whether it's just moving the pocket, 302 00:12:36,719 --> 00:12:38,759 Speaker 13: he can he can do both of those things at 303 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 13: a pretty high level. 304 00:12:39,959 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 11: So I think you want to use all your tools 305 00:12:41,479 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 11: at your disposal. 306 00:12:43,319 --> 00:12:45,279 Speaker 13: It definitely makes things harder on the defense when you're 307 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 13: moving the pocket, when there's a thread of a run. 308 00:12:48,599 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 11: And so, yes, that all that would be part of 309 00:12:50,599 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 11: what we do. 310 00:12:51,239 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you have to like put some 311 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 3: of that stuff on the tape first to get like 312 00:12:55,759 --> 00:12:57,999 Speaker 3: defenses to respect, Like I'm thinking like the book game 313 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: last night watching, and Lamar's mobility just obviously affects everything 314 00:13:02,599 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: for the defense. But you've seen him take off running 315 00:13:05,359 --> 00:13:07,239 Speaker 3: for years, Like, do you feel like Drake needs to 316 00:13:07,239 --> 00:13:09,479 Speaker 3: build that up to be able to be that kind 317 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:11,359 Speaker 3: of threat to a defense or do you think that 318 00:13:11,359 --> 00:13:13,039 Speaker 3: that's already starting to happen a little bit. 319 00:13:14,079 --> 00:13:15,759 Speaker 13: I think that starts to happen even just on the 320 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:18,799 Speaker 13: natural scrambles that we've seen so far. I think people 321 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 13: know he can run, and the thread of that is 322 00:13:21,599 --> 00:13:23,519 Speaker 13: always there, So I don't think you have to run 323 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,239 Speaker 13: a bunch of quarterback runs to get that done. 324 00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:30,519 Speaker 9: Mentioned on that first pick the other day, Stark kddle 325 00:13:30,719 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 9: was a little off. Does that happen less often than 326 00:13:35,079 --> 00:13:39,159 Speaker 9: you would think based on his experience and based on 327 00:13:39,199 --> 00:13:40,639 Speaker 9: all the work that you guys had to do foot 328 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 9: work wise with him when he first got here, Is 329 00:13:42,479 --> 00:13:44,519 Speaker 9: it about where he thought he would be? Like, I'm 330 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 9: just curious how how frequently it happens, and if the 331 00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 9: frequency surprises you. 332 00:13:49,479 --> 00:13:51,039 Speaker 11: One way or the other. I think his feet are 333 00:13:51,119 --> 00:13:51,519 Speaker 11: very good. 334 00:13:51,759 --> 00:13:54,239 Speaker 13: I think in any game, whether it's him or or 335 00:13:54,359 --> 00:13:57,399 Speaker 13: was it Jacoby or any quarterback. It's never like perfect 336 00:13:57,399 --> 00:13:59,999 Speaker 13: like we practice it all the time. There's just a 337 00:13:59,999 --> 00:14:01,479 Speaker 13: lot of things going on in the NFL game. So 338 00:14:01,479 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 13: it's never, you know, not I want to say never, 339 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 13: but it's it's rarely just picture perfect all the time. 340 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:10,239 Speaker 13: And so it's hard to say the exact frequency, but 341 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 13: I would say he's on time a lot, and his 342 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:16,399 Speaker 13: feet are on time and in rhythm with his eyes, 343 00:14:16,439 --> 00:14:19,159 Speaker 13: which is what we're looking for, and you know, it's. 344 00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:21,759 Speaker 11: Getting better and better. But he's he's pretty good at it. 345 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:24,119 Speaker 9: One of the things that I remember Alex told us 346 00:14:24,119 --> 00:14:26,239 Speaker 9: it was right after the first Jets game and he 347 00:14:26,239 --> 00:14:28,039 Speaker 9: obviously played at the end of that game. He played 348 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:30,399 Speaker 9: at him and he said something along the lines of, 349 00:14:30,719 --> 00:14:33,359 Speaker 9: you know, his footwork wasn't perfect, and we expect that, 350 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:34,639 Speaker 9: like you're gonna. 351 00:14:34,359 --> 00:14:35,999 Speaker 11: Revert when like the bullets are alive. 352 00:14:36,319 --> 00:14:40,119 Speaker 9: But it sounds like he hasn't reverted back too much 353 00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:42,599 Speaker 9: in the time that he's been No, he's been pretty consistent. 354 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:45,679 Speaker 13: Now, there's always some plays and here and there, but 355 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,079 Speaker 13: for sure from from that game when you get thrown 356 00:14:48,119 --> 00:14:50,119 Speaker 13: in at the end to there's a lot going on 357 00:14:50,199 --> 00:14:53,999 Speaker 13: there since he's you know, took over as a starter, 358 00:14:54,119 --> 00:14:55,719 Speaker 13: his feet have been much more consistent. 359 00:14:55,879 --> 00:14:57,719 Speaker 11: He probably it's probably hard to get into a rhythm, 360 00:14:57,959 --> 00:14:59,679 Speaker 11: you know, one drive. At the end of the one 361 00:14:59,759 --> 00:15:02,239 Speaker 11: drive two minute, you know, the. 362 00:15:02,239 --> 00:15:04,799 Speaker 13: Defense was was getting after us pretty good, so it 363 00:15:04,919 --> 00:15:07,639 Speaker 13: was it was a little harder to sit in there 364 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:09,119 Speaker 13: and rhythm in that situation. 365 00:15:09,479 --> 00:15:11,439 Speaker 11: So definitely the footwork wasn't great. 366 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:14,079 Speaker 13: But again, since he's taken over as starter, his footwork 367 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:14,839 Speaker 13: has been pretty consistent. 368 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:15,399 Speaker 4: Rhythm. 369 00:15:16,479 --> 00:15:19,079 Speaker 9: Can that build over like multiple weeks? Like can is 370 00:15:19,079 --> 00:15:21,679 Speaker 9: he like you know, can he carry it from one 371 00:15:21,719 --> 00:15:23,439 Speaker 9: game to the next? I guess just based on the 372 00:15:23,479 --> 00:15:25,079 Speaker 9: experience that he has, or is that something you have 373 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:27,759 Speaker 9: to you have to rediscover on a weekly basis. 374 00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:32,119 Speaker 13: I think there's always a part of a game that 375 00:15:32,159 --> 00:15:35,719 Speaker 13: you have to Each game is different. Now your overall rhythm, 376 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:37,719 Speaker 13: I think that builds over time, but each game is 377 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:40,039 Speaker 13: going to be different. Sometimes it's hard to get open 378 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 13: on time because the defense they're playing. Sometimes those things 379 00:15:43,239 --> 00:15:46,079 Speaker 13: full naturally early. So I think each game is an 380 00:15:46,119 --> 00:15:48,919 Speaker 13: animal of its own, But I think over time, you're 381 00:15:48,999 --> 00:15:49,799 Speaker 13: just natural rhythm. 382 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:52,439 Speaker 11: How you play the game definitely can build it. The 383 00:15:52,599 --> 00:15:55,159 Speaker 11: game you guys abought to play. How do the Bears do? 384 00:15:55,239 --> 00:15:58,399 Speaker 9: I remember last week, you know, the Titans seemed like 385 00:15:58,399 --> 00:16:00,439 Speaker 9: one of these teams that you know would be able 386 00:16:00,439 --> 00:16:02,999 Speaker 9: to disguise relatively well and do some different things with 387 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:03,679 Speaker 9: their safeties. 388 00:16:03,879 --> 00:16:05,919 Speaker 11: Are the Bears a little different in that regard or 389 00:16:05,959 --> 00:16:08,319 Speaker 11: things a little more static and you sort of know 390 00:16:08,319 --> 00:16:09,719 Speaker 11: what to expect and they're just really good at it 391 00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:12,519 Speaker 11: because obviously the numbers for Chicago's you have been good 392 00:16:12,599 --> 00:16:13,159 Speaker 11: points allowed. 393 00:16:13,359 --> 00:16:16,079 Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's definitely a different style of defense. 394 00:16:16,119 --> 00:16:17,719 Speaker 11: Where the Titans were. 395 00:16:18,119 --> 00:16:22,039 Speaker 13: Definitely disguised, show you different looks, different pressures, where Chicago 396 00:16:22,239 --> 00:16:23,559 Speaker 13: you know what they're going to do a lot. Now, 397 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:25,959 Speaker 13: every defense has elements of disguise, So I don't want 398 00:16:25,959 --> 00:16:27,759 Speaker 13: to say they don't sure, But what they're really good 399 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:30,559 Speaker 13: at is doing what they do well and running the football, 400 00:16:32,039 --> 00:16:34,759 Speaker 13: and so they closed the zones fast. You have to 401 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:36,719 Speaker 13: be on time, we have to be in the right spaces. 402 00:16:36,719 --> 00:16:38,319 Speaker 13: So it's a different style of defense for sure. 403 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:42,279 Speaker 9: Does that mean one thing that I've kind of found 404 00:16:42,319 --> 00:16:45,439 Speaker 9: interesting when it comes to quarterback play, we do Brian 405 00:16:45,479 --> 00:16:48,039 Speaker 9: Hoyd does some work with us that he was talking about. 406 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:50,479 Speaker 9: You know, it's a it can be a physically exhausting 407 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:52,319 Speaker 9: position to play, especial if you're running for ninety five 408 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:54,679 Speaker 9: yards or whatever's but mentally, he said, you know, it 409 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:57,119 Speaker 9: just can it can wear you down all the decisions 410 00:16:57,159 --> 00:16:57,719 Speaker 9: you have to make. 411 00:16:58,079 --> 00:16:58,359 Speaker 11: Yep. 412 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:02,839 Speaker 9: So is there maybe going to be depending on the 413 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 9: defense if it's a defense where not that they'll never disguise, 414 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 9: but if there's a little bit less of that, can 415 00:17:09,279 --> 00:17:11,279 Speaker 9: that make his job a little bit easier in terms 416 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:13,158 Speaker 9: of the number of things he has to do either 417 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:14,839 Speaker 9: before or after the snap. 418 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:16,678 Speaker 11: I don't know that it's the style of defense that 419 00:17:16,759 --> 00:17:17,039 Speaker 11: does that. 420 00:17:17,239 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 13: I think, you know, our calls within that style of 421 00:17:19,918 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 13: defense can help because the decisions you have to make 422 00:17:22,158 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 13: are still instant, and it's it happens faster. Maybe when 423 00:17:26,918 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 13: you a defense like this, you may know where it's 424 00:17:28,959 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 13: got to go, but it's got to go there exactly 425 00:17:30,678 --> 00:17:35,519 Speaker 13: on time. And so I think you got to build 426 00:17:35,638 --> 00:17:37,438 Speaker 13: you know, breaks in for the quarterback where he doesn't 427 00:17:37,478 --> 00:17:39,799 Speaker 13: have to make all these decisions every single play, because 428 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:41,718 Speaker 13: it does become exhausting when you have to make the 429 00:17:41,718 --> 00:17:43,158 Speaker 13: perfect decision on every single plot. 430 00:17:43,238 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 9: How has he handled that workload, that mental workload, you know, 431 00:17:46,958 --> 00:17:49,918 Speaker 9: snapped a snap because you know, we've seen it, like 432 00:17:49,958 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 9: it's been hard for the offense to run the ball 433 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,278 Speaker 9: and so like I would think there's a little bit 434 00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:55,998 Speaker 9: of a mental break built in there if you can 435 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:58,238 Speaker 9: run it and run it consistently and just take a 436 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:00,279 Speaker 9: little bit of a breather when you can't do that. 437 00:18:00,398 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 11: How has he handled that? He's a stress for lack of. 438 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,079 Speaker 13: A better word, I mean, part of his strength is 439 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,438 Speaker 13: his mental bandwidth. He can handle a lot, and so 440 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:12,318 Speaker 13: I don't think it's stressed him at all. As far 441 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,198 Speaker 13: as what we've been doing. 442 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:16,319 Speaker 7: He's pretty sharp and it sounds like he's been ahead 443 00:18:16,319 --> 00:18:17,599 Speaker 7: of schedule, progressing really well. 444 00:18:17,678 --> 00:18:19,478 Speaker 11: And you guys have that like VR technology. 445 00:18:19,478 --> 00:18:21,158 Speaker 7: Do you have any idea how much that's impacted his 446 00:18:21,238 --> 00:18:22,918 Speaker 7: ability to kind of learn in a faster read. 447 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:24,519 Speaker 11: And be ready for the opportunities he's got. 448 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:26,678 Speaker 13: I think that's definitely helped throughout camp, and you know, 449 00:18:27,398 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 13: the early part of the season. I think when you're 450 00:18:29,478 --> 00:18:32,798 Speaker 13: in practice all those reps, the VR becomes, you know, 451 00:18:33,319 --> 00:18:37,038 Speaker 13: less used for him. It's more for the guys who 452 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:38,798 Speaker 13: aren't getting as many reps. But I definitely think that 453 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 13: helped him bank reps when he wasn't getting as many 454 00:18:41,198 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 13: in practice. 455 00:18:41,918 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 11: I know you guys want to take two more. 456 00:18:43,279 --> 00:18:45,958 Speaker 8: I know you guys want to protect Drake, But a 457 00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:47,599 Speaker 8: lot of his bigger plays have come on the move 458 00:18:47,638 --> 00:18:50,918 Speaker 8: and scrambles. Are you okay with the amount of times 459 00:18:50,918 --> 00:18:53,518 Speaker 8: he's scrambling? Would you like him to reduce it or anything? 460 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,438 Speaker 11: I'd say each play is its own deal. 461 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,319 Speaker 13: So if we get people open in time and in rhythm, 462 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:03,279 Speaker 13: I expect the ball to be out and completed. If 463 00:19:03,319 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 13: we don't, then you got to play football, and that's 464 00:19:05,958 --> 00:19:08,839 Speaker 13: what he does well. So I wouldn't say that there's 465 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:10,558 Speaker 13: a number of times. I say we want to get 466 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:12,678 Speaker 13: people open as many times as we can hind rhythm, 467 00:19:12,958 --> 00:19:15,398 Speaker 13: but it doesn't always happen in the NFL. So his 468 00:19:15,478 --> 00:19:19,398 Speaker 13: ability to make things happen when we don't get people 469 00:19:19,398 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 13: open is critical. 470 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:22,958 Speaker 7: And when it comes in protecting himself, it seems like 471 00:19:22,999 --> 00:19:24,918 Speaker 7: there are times where sometimes he may drift towards the 472 00:19:24,958 --> 00:19:27,039 Speaker 7: target he's thrown to, and sometimes it feels like he's 473 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:28,718 Speaker 7: at one spot and ends up another in the pocket. 474 00:19:28,879 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 11: Is that something you guys have noticed? 475 00:19:30,158 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 7: Is that something maybe the I'm scene wrong and is 476 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: that something that you're chining with trends. 477 00:19:35,478 --> 00:19:37,638 Speaker 13: I think overall, I think that happens sometimes. I think 478 00:19:37,638 --> 00:19:39,079 Speaker 13: there are a lot of times where he's moving in 479 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 13: the right direction and give himself a chance to make 480 00:19:41,158 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 13: the throw. 481 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:45,079 Speaker 11: You know, the messier the pocket, the harder that is 482 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:45,278 Speaker 11: to do. 483 00:19:45,398 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 13: So sometimes it will look like he's drifting in and 484 00:19:47,879 --> 00:19:49,559 Speaker 13: because he's locked in down the field, which is where 485 00:19:49,599 --> 00:19:52,079 Speaker 13: you want his eyes, and so he has a good 486 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:54,438 Speaker 13: feel in the pocket, and sometimes he will move himself 487 00:19:54,478 --> 00:19:54,918 Speaker 13: into pressure. 488 00:19:54,958 --> 00:19:57,398 Speaker 11: But that's just kind of part of the deal, all right, good. 489 00:19:59,879 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 3: Kind of thing. 490 00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:03,798 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a fine line, you know, when you have 491 00:20:04,238 --> 00:20:06,398 Speaker 12: seven guys in the room and you have that issue 492 00:20:06,438 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 12: that you're talking about. I think what we just try 493 00:20:08,039 --> 00:20:12,519 Speaker 12: to do is treat each week like its own individual week, 494 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 12: have a process to our preparation. What are our goals 495 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,678 Speaker 12: this week, you know, individually, collectively a group, you know, offensively, 496 00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:22,559 Speaker 12: whatever it is, work towards those things, and just keep 497 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,039 Speaker 12: everybody focused on improvement and their process. And I think 498 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:29,678 Speaker 12: that once we always have that focus, we're in a 499 00:20:29,678 --> 00:20:31,559 Speaker 12: good shape. We focus on all the results and everything 500 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:34,599 Speaker 12: else beyond that. I think that's what makes it difficult. 501 00:20:34,638 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 12: For anybody really, So we are strong believers and focusing 502 00:20:38,238 --> 00:20:39,839 Speaker 12: on our process and that that will lead us to 503 00:20:39,879 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 12: whatever results that we're opening Again. 504 00:20:43,638 --> 00:20:47,238 Speaker 14: Do you believe that you know there's more to come 505 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,638 Speaker 14: or a lot better things we were going to see 506 00:20:51,718 --> 00:20:54,998 Speaker 14: with Jalen Polk And are you expecting those things to 507 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:57,839 Speaker 14: come this year or perhaps down the road beyond that. 508 00:20:58,918 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 12: Well, he'll have a good, long career. I would suspect him. 509 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 12: He's a hard worker, he's a good person, and he's 510 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,998 Speaker 12: down on it, and I think when you combine all 511 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:12,638 Speaker 12: that and good things will come together for him. You know, 512 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 12: we're just at a point in the season where again 513 00:21:14,918 --> 00:21:16,638 Speaker 12: he was hurt and he was down for a little 514 00:21:16,638 --> 00:21:18,798 Speaker 12: bit of time, and he's back in it, and you know, 515 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:20,999 Speaker 12: we expect him to show some good things as. 516 00:21:20,879 --> 00:21:21,438 Speaker 4: We go forward. 517 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:24,678 Speaker 15: John's been open about a quote mental pump even before 518 00:21:24,718 --> 00:21:27,638 Speaker 15: the concussion with Jalen and since said, hey, he's over it. 519 00:21:27,638 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 15: So I'm just curious this guy you work with day 520 00:21:29,478 --> 00:21:32,638 Speaker 15: to day, what was that like specifically, what does that 521 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:34,599 Speaker 15: look like and how did he then get through it? 522 00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:38,319 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't I don't know about that. I would 523 00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:40,599 Speaker 12: just say right now, where we're focused at is kind 524 00:21:40,599 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 12: of where we're at today, and I think he's back, 525 00:21:43,158 --> 00:21:44,918 Speaker 12: he's healthy, he's ready to go, and we're looking forward 526 00:21:44,918 --> 00:21:45,958 Speaker 12: to seeing him play this week. 527 00:21:46,198 --> 00:21:48,038 Speaker 15: Do you see a different player, you know, maybe this 528 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,559 Speaker 15: week from from a month ago. Then. 529 00:21:51,438 --> 00:21:53,799 Speaker 12: I think he's been really consistent in his approach. I 530 00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:56,478 Speaker 12: think he's always, you know, been very steady about that. 531 00:21:56,918 --> 00:21:59,319 Speaker 12: I've always I've always appreciated that with him, is the 532 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:02,438 Speaker 12: way that he approaches practice and his preparation, you know, 533 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:05,599 Speaker 12: in the building before we hit the practice field, you know, 534 00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:07,599 Speaker 12: And I think that just continues to get better and better. 535 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,079 Speaker 12: But again, I feel like his approach and his consistency 536 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,678 Speaker 12: that way has always been a strong suit of his. 537 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,398 Speaker 15: So he shared his homefield persona. I think it's Monster 538 00:22:14,438 --> 00:22:15,638 Speaker 15: pe or something like that. 539 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:18,798 Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't know. 540 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:20,038 Speaker 12: Everyone's got something. 541 00:22:20,198 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate you, Yeah you got yeah. 542 00:22:24,438 --> 00:22:26,718 Speaker 17: Yeah, what do you what do you see? They're a 543 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 17: tough defense. You know, They're one of those defenses. They 544 00:22:29,879 --> 00:22:32,079 Speaker 17: don't do a lot, but what they do they're good at. 545 00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:35,999 Speaker 17: They understand their weaknesses, they do a good job attacking 546 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:39,558 Speaker 17: the ball. It's a tough defense man. A lot of 547 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 17: respect for their nickel Number six he's a player, but 548 00:22:43,478 --> 00:22:45,638 Speaker 17: it is there. They're a tough defense right now. They're 549 00:22:45,678 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 17: playing hard, they finished, they understand the scheme. So it's 550 00:22:48,478 --> 00:22:50,518 Speaker 17: gonna be a challenge for us. I think we're up 551 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:50,798 Speaker 17: for it. 552 00:22:51,238 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 16: You have me personal connections. Guys on the roster are 553 00:22:53,718 --> 00:22:56,839 Speaker 16: on the staff over there. Uh no, I don't. 554 00:22:57,599 --> 00:23:01,559 Speaker 17: I know the special teams coordinator, but yeah, that's that's 555 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,678 Speaker 17: the only thing I have. Well, I guess Marceides Lewis 556 00:23:04,718 --> 00:23:08,319 Speaker 17: would be the one. So my dad coached Marcedes at 557 00:23:08,398 --> 00:23:12,279 Speaker 17: u c l A. What's funny him and Marie Drew 558 00:23:12,398 --> 00:23:14,758 Speaker 17: used to babysit us on the Bowl games, no kidding, 559 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 17: and he's still playing. Uh so, I think he got 560 00:23:17,478 --> 00:23:20,438 Speaker 17: the record this year. So I've known Marcedes for a 561 00:23:20,438 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 17: long time. So he used to babysit us at the 562 00:23:23,879 --> 00:23:26,039 Speaker 17: Bowl games. Me and my little brother. My dad would 563 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:27,958 Speaker 17: drop us off with them and we played. 564 00:23:27,879 --> 00:23:31,039 Speaker 16: Play games with them. How he's still going, still going? 565 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:31,678 Speaker 7: Uh? 566 00:23:31,918 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 15: What kind of games would you play? 567 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:33,398 Speaker 4: What was that? 568 00:23:33,678 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 17: I used to beat both of them in the Papa shot, 569 00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:38,279 Speaker 17: you know, the the arcade Papa shot. 570 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,278 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, like a David Busters or yeah, they had 571 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:41,918 Speaker 16: a Dave and Buster. 572 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:43,758 Speaker 17: We were out in Vegas. They had a little Dave 573 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:45,758 Speaker 17: and Busters we wanted to that'sus. 574 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:46,999 Speaker 15: Do you keep in touch with him at all? 575 00:23:46,999 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: You see now? I see him. 576 00:23:47,918 --> 00:23:49,319 Speaker 16: Yeah, we talk every now and then. 577 00:23:49,478 --> 00:23:49,598 Speaker 4: Uh. 578 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:51,559 Speaker 17: When I was at U c l A. We talked 579 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:54,079 Speaker 17: a lot, you know, with recruiting and whatnot. But he's 580 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,599 Speaker 17: someone that you know, I followed his whole career. 581 00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:58,079 Speaker 16: Yeah, I had good. 582 00:23:57,999 --> 00:23:59,398 Speaker 15: Things to say about him, and I was thinking the 583 00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:01,319 Speaker 15: other day, I was like, he got drafted before trying. 584 00:24:01,478 --> 00:24:04,839 Speaker 16: Yeah, like he's that's what I mean. He literally they 585 00:24:04,918 --> 00:24:05,638 Speaker 16: used to watch us. 586 00:24:05,638 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 17: That's how young I was, and he's still going. You 587 00:24:08,158 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 17: ever trying to recruit him wherever you're coaching. 588 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:10,839 Speaker 16: No, I haven't. 589 00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:13,438 Speaker 17: I'm sure my dad does though, because my dad's coaching 590 00:24:13,478 --> 00:24:14,839 Speaker 17: tight ends in Miami now. 591 00:24:15,158 --> 00:24:17,678 Speaker 16: Really, I'm sure he's trying to get them. 592 00:24:17,918 --> 00:24:18,158 Speaker 4: Yeah. 593 00:24:18,238 --> 00:24:19,839 Speaker 15: What what do you think is going to be the 594 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,638 Speaker 15: difference looking at Sunday? I mean Winter lots every says 595 00:24:22,638 --> 00:24:25,638 Speaker 15: turnovers like you know, and time and position things like that, 596 00:24:25,678 --> 00:24:27,559 Speaker 15: but specific how you guys match up with them? 597 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,599 Speaker 17: Yeah, I think, well, the turnovers is huge because when 598 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 17: you go against the defense, that a tax the ball life. 599 00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:36,038 Speaker 17: They do that that's something you gotta worry about. So 600 00:24:36,158 --> 00:24:38,518 Speaker 17: turnovers will be huge for us, though, it's just we 601 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:39,918 Speaker 17: got to get the run game going. 602 00:24:40,238 --> 00:24:40,478 Speaker 4: Uh. 603 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 17: And I think if we can get the run game 604 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,279 Speaker 17: going and Drake keeps making plays in the past game, 605 00:24:45,398 --> 00:24:48,238 Speaker 17: that's the next step for us. Uh And obviously the 606 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:50,678 Speaker 17: nicest we had the run game going early on. We 607 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:52,758 Speaker 17: just got to get back to it. Understand, it's a 608 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,158 Speaker 17: long season. We hit a little hiccup, but we just 609 00:24:56,198 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 17: got to grind through it. 610 00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 15: Yeah, I know, guys, this week we're saying, it's like 611 00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,799 Speaker 15: a mindset thing. 612 00:24:59,918 --> 00:25:00,798 Speaker 4: You just got to get back to. 613 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,839 Speaker 15: Hay, we're gonna punching them out first, those double teams 614 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:04,519 Speaker 15: in front hold them. 615 00:25:04,638 --> 00:25:06,599 Speaker 16: Did you see that this week and help if so? 616 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:10,519 Speaker 17: Yeah, Oh, it was definitely emphasized this week. Physicality strained. 617 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,198 Speaker 17: Effort was emphasize this. We did some drills, half line drills, 618 00:25:16,238 --> 00:25:18,478 Speaker 17: you know, just focusing on that. But again, it's like 619 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:20,718 Speaker 17: you said, it, it's a mindset. So we we just 620 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:22,798 Speaker 17: got to get together, say we're gonna go out there, 621 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,398 Speaker 17: punch them in the mouth and then let dra go 622 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 17: because you know, Dre's ready to roll right now. So 623 00:25:29,438 --> 00:25:31,358 Speaker 17: if we can just a few clean looks for him, 624 00:25:31,398 --> 00:25:32,279 Speaker 17: see what he can do. 625 00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:35,559 Speaker 15: Yeah, what what was different about those half line drills, 626 00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 15: Like why are you like, oh, yeah, we emphasize to. 627 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 17: Me, it's good because the backs get to focus on 628 00:25:39,478 --> 00:25:41,958 Speaker 17: one side rather than the whole picture, you know, And 629 00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:46,039 Speaker 17: he really just emphasized one on one blocks, uh, front side. 630 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:47,518 Speaker 16: So for the backs it. 631 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,158 Speaker 17: Limits their view, their their visions half the visions, so 632 00:25:50,198 --> 00:25:53,519 Speaker 17: now they got to create holes and angles when there's 633 00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 17: nothing there, you know, with that drill, and then just 634 00:25:56,158 --> 00:25:58,559 Speaker 17: the mindset of hey guys, we're focusing on the run. 635 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:02,238 Speaker 17: We're doing run drills. Is one of those drills I 636 00:26:02,238 --> 00:26:05,079 Speaker 17: think everyone likes. Uh uh, And it's just good. You 637 00:26:05,238 --> 00:26:08,279 Speaker 17: just got to keep practicing, keep chipping away the Texas drill. No, 638 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,079 Speaker 17: it's not a Texas Yeah, you. 639 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,998 Speaker 15: Know what I'm saying, Like similar, Like, I guess that's 640 00:26:11,999 --> 00:26:12,478 Speaker 15: a one on. 641 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,599 Speaker 16: One block run and read Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a 642 00:26:14,638 --> 00:26:16,559 Speaker 16: little it's literally half line. 643 00:26:16,718 --> 00:26:18,999 Speaker 17: You could run. You could pass out of it too, Okay, 644 00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 17: but you're you're literally just taking the run and focusing 645 00:26:21,999 --> 00:26:24,758 Speaker 17: on the front side. Yeah, you know, rather than having 646 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:25,999 Speaker 17: the backside. 647 00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 15: Elements right any any close to the scrap This week, you know, 648 00:26:29,398 --> 00:26:30,198 Speaker 15: I know sometimes. 649 00:26:29,958 --> 00:26:34,839 Speaker 16: It's a good coach. No, not that I saw, but 650 00:26:34,958 --> 00:26:35,478 Speaker 16: I know what. 651 00:26:35,398 --> 00:26:39,598 Speaker 17: You're getting at is yeah, but no we didn't. But 652 00:26:39,638 --> 00:26:42,079 Speaker 17: again it's just the mindset of like, guys, this is 653 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:43,958 Speaker 17: what we're doing, this is what we're saying we're gonna do. 654 00:26:43,999 --> 00:26:46,158 Speaker 17: We're practicing it this way. Now Sunday we got to 655 00:26:46,198 --> 00:26:46,638 Speaker 17: go do it. 656 00:26:46,918 --> 00:26:49,599 Speaker 15: Yeah, just going back to Marchides for a second, anything 657 00:26:49,638 --> 00:26:52,798 Speaker 15: else about those days during the Bowl week that you 658 00:26:52,918 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 15: remember thinking, Well. 659 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:59,078 Speaker 17: I honestly, I just remember Marcedes. He was a basketball player. 660 00:26:59,678 --> 00:27:01,958 Speaker 17: He went to u c l A. And my dad 661 00:27:01,999 --> 00:27:05,398 Speaker 17: got there, I think his sophomore year and basically told him, hey, man, 662 00:27:05,519 --> 00:27:07,559 Speaker 17: you're only playing three four minutes on. 663 00:27:07,478 --> 00:27:08,279 Speaker 11: The basketball court. 664 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,998 Speaker 17: You got a bright future as an NFL player if 665 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:13,918 Speaker 17: you take it serious and well, like I said, I 666 00:27:13,918 --> 00:27:15,238 Speaker 17: got a lot of respect fro him because he was 667 00:27:15,238 --> 00:27:18,839 Speaker 17: a receiving tight end. You know you he won the 668 00:27:18,879 --> 00:27:20,079 Speaker 17: Mackie at U c l A. 669 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:21,678 Speaker 16: And he was a. 670 00:27:21,638 --> 00:27:25,519 Speaker 17: True f Well he's a true why now he gets 671 00:27:25,638 --> 00:27:27,438 Speaker 17: he puts his hand in the dirt and he blocked. 672 00:27:27,478 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 17: So you talk to guys, you want to help these 673 00:27:30,398 --> 00:27:32,278 Speaker 17: kids have a career as long as they can in 674 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 17: this league, and you got to your your game has 675 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,559 Speaker 17: to transform, and he is the perfect example of transforming 676 00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:41,718 Speaker 17: your game from a f tight end to a true 677 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,718 Speaker 17: He's an extra tackle out there sometimes. 678 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,079 Speaker 15: So so during the week, I mean, was he just 679 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,638 Speaker 15: not playing in that particular bowl game? 680 00:27:48,638 --> 00:27:49,599 Speaker 11: Like why did he have free time? 681 00:27:49,879 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 17: Oh? They did, well, you know bowl games. I need 682 00:27:51,718 --> 00:27:53,558 Speaker 17: a bunch of free times. So we'd go to all 683 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 17: the team events and stuff. So like if we had 684 00:27:56,198 --> 00:27:58,599 Speaker 17: team dinner where we went to David Busters. That's where 685 00:27:58,638 --> 00:28:02,519 Speaker 17: we did. All the arcades they had to PlayStation set up. Yeah, 686 00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 17: I used to wootrew and Madden. 687 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,158 Speaker 16: Yeah, you can tell him that. 688 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 17: What I can't remember the year it was the Las 689 00:28:10,999 --> 00:28:13,599 Speaker 17: Vegas Bull though, Okays that was the Vegas Bowl. 690 00:28:13,718 --> 00:28:14,758 Speaker 16: It's easy look up. 691 00:28:14,918 --> 00:28:16,518 Speaker 17: Yeah, I've been to a lot of Bowl games as 692 00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,839 Speaker 17: a coaches son sore stuff. 693 00:28:18,918 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 16: Yeah, a lot of free stuff. I appreciate it. 694 00:28:22,438 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 17: Mania. Yeah, he's a tight end coach down in Miami. 695 00:28:27,198 --> 00:28:27,398 Speaker 8: Cool. 696 00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,039 Speaker 17: So yeah, that's a real Honestly, I got so much 697 00:28:30,158 --> 00:28:32,558 Speaker 17: respect for Marcedes Is. 698 00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:33,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 699 00:28:33,198 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 15: Why I think it's years is just he's a six 700 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:36,398 Speaker 15: offensive linemanup. 701 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:40,679 Speaker 17: Yeah, and you know everyone wants to make basketball players 702 00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:43,278 Speaker 17: tight ends. But that's a hard position to play. 703 00:28:43,439 --> 00:28:47,998 Speaker 18: I've never really crossed pass and coach Embery's dad coached him, 704 00:28:47,999 --> 00:28:49,598 Speaker 18: I think in at U c l A and then 705 00:28:49,639 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 18: coached him again, and so I've heard so much about. 706 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,199 Speaker 4: Him and watched him. He's just, you know, he's one 707 00:28:55,238 --> 00:28:55,679 Speaker 4: of those guys. 708 00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:57,199 Speaker 18: I think early on in his career he was catching 709 00:28:57,238 --> 00:28:59,119 Speaker 18: all the balls and that was what it was. 710 00:28:59,199 --> 00:29:00,518 Speaker 4: But then people say, wow, you. 711 00:29:00,479 --> 00:29:01,439 Speaker 16: Can really block people. 712 00:29:01,479 --> 00:29:03,598 Speaker 18: And then as he's I mean, what is he I mean, 713 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:06,919 Speaker 18: he's like my age, right, I mean he's yeah, he's 714 00:29:06,959 --> 00:29:09,639 Speaker 18: an older guy, but he's it's amazing what he's able 715 00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:12,639 Speaker 18: to do. And and you know, he's just he's a 716 00:29:12,639 --> 00:29:15,199 Speaker 18: great player. He's just it's hard to find a guy 717 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,319 Speaker 18: in this at this position that can block a defensive 718 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:21,758 Speaker 18: end and run out and beat safeties and beat linebackers 719 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:23,759 Speaker 18: in the past, you know, and when you can get 720 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,518 Speaker 18: that and you can do it over time, you know, 721 00:29:25,679 --> 00:29:27,319 Speaker 18: obviously you can play a long time in the league. 722 00:29:27,479 --> 00:29:29,399 Speaker 15: Are there any tight ends when you're you know, showing 723 00:29:29,439 --> 00:29:33,039 Speaker 15: tape two Ian obviously a hunter in Austin, but as 724 00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:35,399 Speaker 15: examples around the league, like hey, the way this guy 725 00:29:35,719 --> 00:29:38,559 Speaker 15: you know has this release or holds this block during 726 00:29:38,639 --> 00:29:41,119 Speaker 15: film as an example for Jahim or even your whole room. 727 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:43,238 Speaker 4: You know, I do it a little bit with Jaheim. 728 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:44,879 Speaker 4: I don't to be honest with that. 729 00:29:44,959 --> 00:29:48,518 Speaker 18: I would tell him to emulate Austin and Hunter Henry 730 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,119 Speaker 18: and look at everything that they do, from the way 731 00:29:51,159 --> 00:29:54,038 Speaker 18: they prepare to you know, just the way they practice, 732 00:29:54,238 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 18: to how they are and the techniques that they. 733 00:29:57,238 --> 00:29:58,518 Speaker 4: Use and that we talk about. 734 00:29:58,719 --> 00:30:01,359 Speaker 18: And then you know, in the off season, you'll cut 735 00:30:01,439 --> 00:30:05,758 Speaker 18: up certain guys that are exact body types, right like, yeah, 736 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:09,038 Speaker 18: exactly what he is and find first of all for 737 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,599 Speaker 18: myself to find the things he really does well and 738 00:30:11,719 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 18: try and find different things that we can do that 739 00:30:13,639 --> 00:30:17,039 Speaker 18: highlight that. But then I think also just that, you know, 740 00:30:17,719 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 18: you get him to see different things that people do 741 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:26,759 Speaker 18: and kind of the way they do it. So he's 742 00:30:26,879 --> 00:30:28,119 Speaker 18: just all about development right now. 743 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:31,599 Speaker 4: He's a really good talent. He is a great kid. 744 00:30:31,719 --> 00:30:32,679 Speaker 4: He loves football. 745 00:30:32,959 --> 00:30:35,518 Speaker 18: I mean early in the year, I said, listen for 746 00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,038 Speaker 18: you to get up right now, you got to go 747 00:30:37,399 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 18: get on special teams. And he wasn't on special teams. 748 00:30:39,479 --> 00:30:41,719 Speaker 18: And I think he went in with Springer every single 749 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,559 Speaker 18: day and did extra work and now he's able to 750 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:44,999 Speaker 18: do some things. 751 00:30:44,999 --> 00:30:45,639 Speaker 4: He did a great job. 752 00:30:45,719 --> 00:30:49,359 Speaker 1: Last week, Patriots Playbook joined John Rook as he brings 753 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,079 Speaker 1: you all the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct 754 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:55,359 Speaker 1: from Patriots HQ. 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