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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold NR, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Bill Lolli and he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. This is the start of our number two

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Speaker 2: of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. And typically Matt,

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Speaker 2: this is where we do the fantasy football focus, or

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Speaker 2: we'll do it on a mock draft.

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Speaker 3: But I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, your good friend, has come out with his

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four NFL Draft prospect rankings. His first version

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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all right. I haven't gone through it, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's great.

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Speaker 2: As I'm down here at the Senior Boy, I thought

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Speaker 2: this would be a good time to do this. Not

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Speaker 2: necessarily a mock draft, but this is to kind of

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Speaker 2: give some fans a little idea of who they could

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Speaker 2: be watching in this Senior Bowl and some other guys

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Speaker 2: as well. And his number one prospect is Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback out of USC.

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Speaker 3: Most people have him.

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Speaker 2: Going number one overall at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's number umber two. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna read the write ups tonight because this is always

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Speaker 3: you know, Mel's first mock draft, Daniel DJ's top first,

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Speaker 3: top one fifty, Senior Bowl weekue, all this stuff that's screams.

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Speaker 3: Draft season is upon us. And just to reiterate, I

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Speaker 3: like tell people this every year, and I like the

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Speaker 3: way that DJ says this. But Daniel Jeremiah says he

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Speaker 3: he mocks with his ears, but his top fifty is

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Speaker 3: with his eyes. You know, this is his thoughts, not

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Speaker 3: how he thinks it's going to shake out. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number two he has Marvin Harrison junior.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Number three he has Rome Adunzier.

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Speaker 3: Now that's the first one that's a little surprising. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like we all know he's going to be a top six,

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Speaker 3: seven eight pick, but the third best player in the

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Speaker 3: entire draft, it's pretty lofty. He's a stud. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: really good. He's really good, and you like this he said.

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Speaker 2: Overall, Dunsay is a complete player and reminds me of

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Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald coming out of college.

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Speaker 3: That's funny. I've said that a couple of times. They

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Speaker 3: go up and get it. The whole world knows you're

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Speaker 3: getting in. It doesn't matter some after the catch stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he does have some similarias.

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Speaker 2: Number four he has Drake May, the red shirt sophomore

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Speaker 2: out of North Carolina. Number five for him is Jadon Daniels.

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Speaker 2: So not a lot of separation there between those guys.

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Speaker 3: No. Number six is a little bit of a surprise

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Speaker 3: for him though. Yeah, this is what it starts to

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Speaker 2: Terry and Arnold the Alabama cornerback, red shirt sophomore. Five interceptions,

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Speaker 2: seventeen pass defenses in twenty twenty three. You know a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of teams maybe tried to

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Speaker 2: McKinstry and they went at this guy instead, and that

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Speaker 3: Well, didn't go great, right, tough guy, he plays inside,

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Speaker 3: he plays out. We've been talking about him a fair amount.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we all know the Steelers will do something

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Speaker 3: at corner. I just think less and less chance that

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Speaker 3: this guy is going to be around at twenty Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Number seven for him Elik Neighbors, the wider receive out

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Speaker 2: of LSU. Number eight is Brock Bauers, a tight end

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Speaker 2: out of Georgia. Number nine is his first offensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: That's Joe alt out of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a lot to react to it, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, these are the names.

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Speaker 2: Expect Tenny as Dallas Turner the edge rusher out of Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Okay, to to Bama edge guys or to Bama defenders already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at eleven, his second tackle is Talasa the Oregon

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you were at practice today. I watched practice today.

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Speaker 3: I have not watched the second practice yet, but I

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Speaker 3: Fulaga and that practice. I don't know if it's American

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Speaker 2: He then has a Forshan who out of Penn State

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Speaker 3: Then he has it real quick. I want to give

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Speaker 3: just scanning this with you, but I haven't read it,

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Speaker 3: uprooted by power rushers. And he says, see Ohio State

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Speaker 3: because I remember, are you Oh? It was texted me

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Speaker 3: after that game. You must have paid more attention to

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Speaker 3: he had a rough one, and I guess he had

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Speaker 2: Rough one against a guy who is you know, probably

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Speaker 2: Latham, the offensive tackle out of Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he'll be linked to the Steelers a

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Speaker 2: At fourteen Florida State dresser Jared Versy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, is it versy or verse? I don't know. I've

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Speaker 2: Okay, we could do that. At fifteen is Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen is Troy Fatanu, the Washington offensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was supposed to be here at the Senior

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Speaker 3: And I looked at him. I said, you look like

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Speaker 2: He's like six ' six, uh yeah, three hundred and

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Speaker 3: He moves like one. I mean, he's considered probably the

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Speaker 3: best athlete amongst all offensive linemen. And so we've referenced

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Speaker 3: Ran Duffy before. He basically does what we do for

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Speaker 3: the Eagles, and he has a really good draft show.

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Speaker 3: And I was listening to his his senior Bowl preview

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Speaker 3: he's like he's a lot like Lane Johnson coming out

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Speaker 3: Geiden was stuck between two NFL offensive tackles at Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: Oh he I mean he he looks like a defensive

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see him in person.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks like Julius Pepper's long arms and the

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Speaker 4: lean like I can't believe he's three hundred and some pounds,

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Speaker 3: He really fluid. And ye heard Jim Jim Nagy say

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Speaker 2: Eighteen is are mariusm DJ loves this offensive tackle class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's like, what is that five in a row?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen though nineteen is Quinya Mitchell, the cornerback out of Toledo,

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Speaker 2: and he had a hillacious practice today, just kicking everybody's butts,

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Speaker 3: His big concern is, hey, can he play press man?

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Speaker 3: And I didn't see him wrap I'm watching TV. Yeah

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Speaker 3: he can play. I mean he's got the long arms power.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knew he had the traits to do it, they

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Speaker 3: just didn't ask him. So it's an incomplete grade. He's

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Speaker 3: breaking up passes, he's running with fast receivers. He looked

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Speaker 2: Oh man, nobody can. He couldn't complete passes against him.

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Speaker 3: No, he just couldn't do it. Toledo folks, in case

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Speaker 3: he seems very Steeler esque. He might end up being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty. This is the first time I've seen

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Speaker 2: this guy in the first round. And that's Edger and

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The linebacker one talks about is the NC State

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Speaker 3: kinds of medicals I've seen Cooper's name, but I've not

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Speaker 3: seen any linebacker close to being this high on any

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of surprising, but there he is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty one is layout too late to the

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Speaker 2: edge rusher out of UCLA and he's at the Senior

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Speaker 3: He's thick. He's thick. He's a power player. I think

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Speaker 3: at edge guys at the college level, the highly productive

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Speaker 3: Leightout is like watching a professional. I mean he strings

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Speaker 3: he should, you know, be very effective right away. And

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Speaker 3: I didn't see every snap of him this morning, but

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Speaker 3: I will say that some of these tackles that we've

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Speaker 2: At twenty two Byron Murphy Tech, the defensive tackle out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting robbed that he's not going to participate

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Speaker 3: in the Senior Bowl, which basically just means he knows

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Speaker 3: he's getting drafted pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of risen up over the course of

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Speaker 2: is quarterback bow Knicks out of Oregon.

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Speaker 3: He's here at the Seagle. Yeah. Yeah, And I can't

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Speaker 2: Some of the other guys, like, like they got more

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Speaker 2: The American roster might have the better trench players overall. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They there's some tackles. Yeah, I mean there's just

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Speaker 2: I'm like looking at both these rosters, going, boy, there's

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it might might be as good as eem

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Speaker 2: Twenty four for DJ is enis Rickstraw Junior, the cornerback

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Speaker 3: Out at the last minute. He actually has a real

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Speaker 3: So some of these guys just back out for because

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Speaker 2: It makes me wonder if he's going to work out

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, in a crowded corner. That's corner that might

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Speaker 2: At twenty five is Chop Robinson, the edge rusher out

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Speaker 3: His teammate the other ed competit State was showing up

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Speaker 2: Twenty six is Davontes Walker. I believe he had the

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Speaker 3: Aj Green I think three times when describing Walker. He's

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Speaker 3: not saying he's as good but a long, fluid, natural

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Speaker 3: hand catcher. He really really likes this guy who can fly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Twenty seven JJ McCarthy, the quarterback out of Michigan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: twenty eight Jerson Newton, the defensive tackle out of Illinois.

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Speaker 3: That's the second the tackle. I'm the Texas kid was ahead. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: DJ has Cooper Degene nice at twenty nine, So DJ

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Speaker 2: the Steelers at twenty Not exactly, is right, Yeah, not

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Speaker 3: There's a possibility, and we've talked about it. It's a

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's around. I really like him. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: no reason. He hasn't done anything lately, So sometimes he's

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Speaker 3: the beginning of February or whatever. But he will become April. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: here's what he says.

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Speaker 2: He said, overall, I believe the gene could stick at cornerback,

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Speaker 2: where his strengths of the player would be featured. He

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Speaker 2: reminds me of a bigger Eric Weddle coming out of college.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean people and I might not remember Weddle

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Speaker 3: You know. Weddle was a very dynamic player coming out

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Speaker 2: No, I have no problem with that comparison either.

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Speaker 3: You take that now, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: At thirty he has Nate Wiggins, the cornerback out of Clemson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, another tall, long outside guy.

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Speaker 2: At thirty one, he has Jordan Morgan, the offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: He's also Haribille. Yeah yeah, I watched him a little.

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Speaker 3: He didn't stand out good or bad to me.

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Speaker 2: The reps I watched this guy did today, he's on

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Speaker 2: I should say number thirty thirty two for DJ is

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Speaker 5: Okay, this dude's a monster. I just know to read

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Speaker 5: about it to watch him. Okay, he is huge. I

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Speaker 2: And he's screams like three four defensive end.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking it up now because if you go to

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Speaker 3: official heights and weights. He is six ' five even

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Speaker 3: eighty six with real long arms, almost thirty giant condor yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Smith role. I mean absolutely, that's exactly what you're

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Speaker 3: looking for. That's interesting. That's a good guy to know.

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Speaker 2: At thirty three he has Graham Barton, the offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: then for whatever reason, I think he's here, but he's

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Speaker 3: He's there and he's interviewing and he's all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: And Jim Nagy said he was very receptive to moving

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfortunate because it would like they've seen that happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four he has a Donne Mitchell, the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's another guy could fly at thirty five, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Hej has Jackson Powers Johnson the center out of Oregon,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe it. He was very h yeah wow

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Speaker 3: really wide, strong, bass, tough, finishes, really agile, not huge,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's just and the thing that I

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Speaker 2: running downfield to go hit somebody else a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're a lot, like really, yeah, you throw? They would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even watching like one on ones to

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and run. He was just all

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Speaker 2: Then he would do his rep and he would run

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Speaker 3: I mean, but that's great. So i just looked up

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Speaker 3: he's every bit of that.

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Speaker 5: I talked.

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Speaker 2: I talked to him after after that practice. He is

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Speaker 3: He's three hundred and thirty four pounds and he doesn't

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Speaker 3: He moves really well.

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Speaker 2: He's really got the anchor guys were trying to bull

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Speaker 2: And then when they did, when they did try to

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Speaker 3: So he doesn't have super long he does have super

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Speaker 3: You know, he's got a wide base. He's got wide shoulders.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's hard to get around and kind kind.

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Speaker 2: Of reminded me in terms of his shoulder with Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He was the widest human being I think I've ever

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Speaker 3: He had shoulder to shoulder, shoulder to shoulder.

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Speaker 2: He looked like he should have been seven foot tall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like SpongeBob. Yeah, like I'm not, but with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not skinny. At the show, I got reasonably

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Speaker 2: wide shoulders. Yeah, and hassel Riggs were twice as wide

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Speaker 3: I mean two of you could hide behind hassel Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like that that's a great trade for an interior alignment.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and and and quick and smart and just I

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Speaker 2: talked to him after a practice He's and he said, look,

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Speaker 2: I I'm like.

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Speaker 3: What are you here to prove?

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Speaker 2: And He's like, I'm here to prove that I'm the

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Speaker 3: He didn't play. That's that, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, you might

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Speaker 3: he's worth it.

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Speaker 2: I was very impressed with him, very impressed at thirty

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Speaker 2: six dj Ulade McKinstry. That's suppose as low as I've

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Speaker 3: I think his name value, the cool nickname Bama is

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Speaker 3: slightly better than the prospect. Not that he's a bad prospect,

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Speaker 2: He's been around for he's been around for three years

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Speaker 2: and he's started at BAMA.

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Speaker 3: And his name's kool Aid. It's everybody, right, yes, which

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Speaker 3: is super cool. Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seven is Zach Frasier, the interior the center from

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Speaker 2: West Virginia, and he is here today. I talked to

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Speaker 2: him today as well, but he's not working out.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't talk.

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Speaker 2: About somebody who's built like Pongebob. That dude's built like SpongeBob.

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Speaker 3: I bet four time state wrestling champ. Tough as could

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Speaker 3: be Wesley Yuler's favorite player basically because I mean he's

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Speaker 3: super easy to root for. He kicked the crap out

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Speaker 3: of pit. I mean he's he would do the trick too.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I like JPJ better, But it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he did a couple of individual reps

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Speaker 2: just to snap the football, you know, with that doing

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Speaker 2: snap and that kind of stuff, and like, is that

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get out there so bad. I wanted

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Speaker 2: do it. He said, he's still a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: away from being fully cleared.

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Speaker 3: He had a fractured fibula.

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Speaker 2: For people who didn't know, at the end of the

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Speaker 2: right because he talked about it. He said, we were

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to start slow us down in the

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Speaker 2: tough guy.

440
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: When he fractured leg. Like someone will help you. They'll

441
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: stop the clock if you go down. You know that's

442
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: a problem. But he would fit in well around here. Yeah,

443
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: he's not from far away either. He's like right on

444
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: the other side of WU or West Virginia from what

445
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: I get. Yeah.

446
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: Thirty eight Keon Coleman, the Florida state wide receiver.

447
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.

448
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: Thirty nine Troy Franklin, the Oregon wide receiver.

449
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 3: They couldn't be any more different ones like that, Yeah

450
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Speaker 3: the other Yeah.

451
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Speaker 2: Forty is Michael Pennix Junior, the quarterback out of Washington.

452
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: Okay, he's out there slinging it great arm. Yeah.

453
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Speaker 2: Forty one is Jatavian Sanders. They tight end out of Texas,

454
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: and he looks like a big wide receiver. No, I'm sure, Yeah,

455
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 2: he kind of looks like Itit's a little bit maybe

456
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: not as talented, but he's he's definitely a guy to

457
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 2: keep an eye on.

458
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Speaker 3: Forty two Remember Jamichael Finley from the Yeah, yeah, yeah,

459
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 3: the Hackers. That's who reminds me of every time I

460
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: see him.

461
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Forty two is Kamari Lassiter, the cornerback out of Georgia.

462
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 3: Okay.

463
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: Forty three Xavier Worthy, the cornerback or the wide receiver

464
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: out of Texas.

465
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: He could fly too, Yeah, yeah, he can fly.

466
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Speaker 2: Forty four is lab Mconkeye. He's playing on the American

467
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: team there. He had a good practice today, the wide

468
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: receiver out of Georgia. Forty five Junior Colson, the linebacker

469
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Speaker 2: out of Michigan.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind He kind of reminds me of like

471
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: a Patriot Downhill, a Land of Robbers type, you know. Yeah,

472
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 3: probably runs better than Robberts, but yeah.

473
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: Forty six Chris Braswell, the edge rusher out of Alabama.

474
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Speaker 2: Forty seven is Peyton Wilson, who you mentioned earlier. He's

475
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: here at the Cipowl. He gets to medicals down the

476
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right yeah. Forty eight is Landre Sweat, the defensive

477
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: tackle out of Texas, and he's massive.

478
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Speaker 3: He must stand out, I'm sure.

479
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can definitely pick him out of the crowd.

480
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: Forty nine Marshawn neland the edge rusher out of Western Michigan.

481
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Speaker 3: Real quick, I had to look, how funny is this?

482
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: There's this I mentioned. The hightweight graph is the spreadsheet

483
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: that they put out, and every box is full except

484
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Speaker 3: for white. The weight for the Vandre sweat. That one's blank.

485
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: Wouldn't step on a scale, there's six broken it. Yeah, yeah,

486
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Speaker 3: that one's blank. Yeah.

487
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Speaker 2: Marsha Kneeland at forty nine and Malachai Corley, the Western

488
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: Michigan or Western Kentucky wide receiver who just his average

489
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: depth of target last year was six point one yards.

490
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that way the target run people over. Yeah.

491
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he averaged about fifteen yards to catch.

492
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. He looked good what I saw in practice too.

493
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: He moves around well, he's physical.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was watching more of the

495
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 2: trench stuff. They I'll focus more on wide receivers and

496
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Speaker 2: cornerbacks tomorrow, but yeah, I'm really interested to watch more

497
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: of him as well. So he's built well yeah, yeah,

498
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: interesting interesting list of guys there from Daniel Jeremiah as

499
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Speaker 2: we get into this, but we're going to take another break.

500
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Speaker 2: We're overdue here. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

501
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about what we saw

502
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Speaker 2: the day at practice after this when we return on

503
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Speaker 2: the drive.

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Speaker 3: He is at Williamson.

516
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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lelly, and you're listening to the driver here

517
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Speaker 2: on Steers Nation Radio and Matt we just I thought

518
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: i'd go through some of the stuff from what I

519
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: saw today, some standards from practices today. The national team

520
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: practice first today, So I thought I've rolled down with

521
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: what I saw from some.

522
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 3: Of those guys today.

523
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, stands we mentioned, Yeah, Jackson, Jackson powers. Johnson to

524
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: me was the standout of the day. Uh, maybe that's

525
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: because I was focusing largely on the offensive mine, but man,

526
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: that dude is again I'm smitten and I'm just shocked

527
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: that he measured in a six y three and change

528
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: in three hundred and four pounds wings wingspan.

529
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: Those seventy nine inches. Yes, his arms on super long.

530
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: Wingspan's pretty wide, pretty wide.

531
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the arms are only thirty thirty two inches in chain,

532
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: but the wingspan is seventy nine. That kind of gave

533
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: an idea of how wide he is in the shoulders.

534
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 3: So the little you know, the clips I've watched of

535
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: him or you know Oregon late in the season, I

536
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: would have never thought he was three hundred and thirty

537
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: four pounds, just the way he moves, his quickness. You

538
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: know you mentioned his ability at second level get downfield.

539
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that he does that at three

540
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: thirty four, I think he's a great prospect.

541
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's rare at center position to have

542
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: a guy that heavy who moves what he does.

543
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: You almost all of us either deal with almost all

544
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 3: of them need help with a power player a nose

545
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: you know, Casey Hampton or or they can handle that guy,

546
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: but they can't get to the second level. And you know,

547
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: like the DERMONDI does, can do both, but rarely does

548
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: someone excel at both.

549
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: And no, folks were not saying that he is he's

550
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: their money dust and no, no, I think Matt and

551
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: I both believe is the best center of all time,

552
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: and there are stats to back that up. But he

553
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: has some of those traits that you just can't he

554
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: can't coach these things up right, Like.

555
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: If you're the Dolphins, I mean, let alone, I'm not

556
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: talking about Steelers, Like the Dolphins in the twenties should

557
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: like run to the podium for him if he's even

558
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: still there.

559
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no, I after watching today, I would

560
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: have no issue whatsoever if Steelers took him at twenty.

561
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: I wouldn't either. And I've kind of already succumbed to

562
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: this that there's no chance he'll be there in the

563
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: second round. You like some of these mops you see. Yeah,

564
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: there's no way, no way.

565
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: I just just don't see it happening. I also thought

566
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: we talked to as well in this guy was in

567
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: the morning session as well, Quinya Mitchell. He came in

568
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: at six foot and change one hundred and ninety five pounds,

569
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: so you know, thought he was going to be a

570
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: little bit heavier than that. But he did everything that

571
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: you want to see a cornerback do. I mean, he

572
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: was just all over the place, Like receivers could not

573
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: get open against this guy.

574
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: No breaking up passes, left and right. I mean I

575
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: saw very few completions, if any against them, and completions

576
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: happened here easily. There's one on one with a ton

577
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: of grass Carr. I mean he was His closing burst

578
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: really stood out.

579
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: His overall catch rate allowed in college.

580
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Speaker 3: You see this seven on twelve.

581
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Speaker 2: It was almost twelve hundred and sixty four career defensive

582
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: coverage snaps and he allowed a forty four point seven

583
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Speaker 2: percent completion percentage.

584
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Speaker 3: Okay, I saw one a little different. I was wanting

585
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: to pull up. It's almost says the exact same thing,

586
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: but this was a pro football focus thing. No cornerback

587
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 3: forced more incompletions than Mitchell over the past two seasons.

588
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: His twenty four point two forced incompletion rate is in

589
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Speaker 3: the ninety ninth percentile of all the corners in this

590
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: draft class. Like balls, it should have been completed, but

591
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 3: he made sure they weren't. Yeah, oh he's yeah, there's

592
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: some there's some talent there.

593
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Speaker 2: It's definitely some special ability. I watched Sioni Vaki a

594
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: little bit today, the defensive back out of Utah. He's

595
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: sudden like yeah, he comes downhill and it's like wow,

596
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: like that.

597
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: Gud you can you can see why you.

598
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: Seem yeah, you can see that guy coming like.

599
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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah he's big too. I mean again for Pe,

600
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: we watched him yesterday. I just assumed everybody listened. They

601
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: might not have people think you could be a great

602
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: slot receiver. He's got a really good history of just

603
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: carrying the balls a traditional running back. I mean, he's

604
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: kind of a strong safety ish type and he's focusing

605
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: on that, but infanit in really well. He is sudden

606
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: and bigh.

607
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Speaker 2: I liked what I saw that out of Kingsley Suamattaya

608
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: the BYU tackle today. He is really athletic as well,

609
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: just kind of envelops people that try does not give

610
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: up the edge. Now he did get beat by lay

611
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: two beat him on a swim move to the inside.

612
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you get help to the inside.

613
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Speaker 3: Oh he's going to get beat throughout the week. I mean,

614
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: I mean he's still a work in progress. He's a

615
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: giant piece of unbelievably athletic clay. But he moves really well. Yeah.

616
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, just he's he's an easy mover, as they like.

617
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: To say, big heavy hands and he's three hundred and

618
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 3: twenty nine pounds. Yeah, I mean just a monster.

619
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Speaker 2: A couple of the receivers, Roman Wilson at a Michigan.

620
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can fly like he might be Yeah, he

621
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: can fly. Looks like he might be a slot though.

622
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: He's five one hundred and eighty six pounds, but he's

623
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: tough to cover and he can get downfield.

624
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: He made a big play, you know, on a deep ball.

625
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think he's a slot, kind of a

626
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: prototypical slot five ten and a half one eighty six,

627
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: some short area of quickness but with long speed, you know.

628
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: So I think he's a Day two guy. Yeah. Yeah.

629
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Speaker 2: Looking at some of the other guys, well, uh, the

630
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: one defensive tackle out of a I'm trying to remember.

631
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: I found my notes here. I think I know what's

632
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: what you're talking about.

633
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: Paul out of Yeah, Gabe Paul out of Baylor was

634
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: a handful and he he looks like a Steelers defensive

635
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: end type six. I'm trying to find his exact measurements

636
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: here with they list him in six '.

637
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Speaker 3: Five, he's five. He's six ' five in three quarters,

638
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: so he's almost sixty six two ninety long arms. I mean,

639
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: he looks like the Aaron Smith type, and he was

640
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: really explosive off the ball. Yeah, really good.

641
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: I was watching the guy, the Wisconsin centater that we

642
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: talked about yesterday, and he just kicked his butt twice,

643
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: like he just kicked his butt Like he's really the

644
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: first step quick.

645
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: Really first step quick. And he used a swim move

646
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: on his first two to one on ones that they

647
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: like barely touched him, like, I don't know. I people

648
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: are familiar with Charles Davis, but he was in the

649
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: booth with DJ and Charles Davis is like the nicest

650
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: human being in the world. Like when things go bad,

651
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: he rarely like says anything bad. And I don't know

652
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: who the right guard was, but he said something along

653
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: the lines of I'm not sure if the right guard

654
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: knew the ball was snapped, Like he got beat now

655
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: it was comical. Oh he was.

656
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was impressive. He's got an eighty four inch wingspan.

657
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks at he would fit in real well here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there is the traditional three to four d

659
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Speaker 3: N type.

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Speaker 2: Yeah before Yeah, I didn't either, And I'm like, who's

661
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 2: that dude?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

663
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Speaker 2: That was that was impressive. We're talking about Jackson Powers.

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Speaker 2: Johnson his wingspan seventy nine inches for a guy with

665
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Speaker 2: his official arm with here was thirty one and an

666
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Speaker 2: eighth inch, which.

667
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Speaker 3: Is short, just short, short, Yeah, but the seventy nine

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Speaker 3: inch wingspan.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hear some of these other offensive linemen

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Speaker 2: who has a who has a big wings or a

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Speaker 2: big arm length.

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Speaker 3: Here, let's see here, how about Christian Jones. He's an

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Speaker 3: offensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: He has thirty four and seven eighth inch arms, but

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00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: his wingspans only eighty three and seven eighths. His arms

676
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: should be if he if he extrapolaid out over the

677
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Speaker 2: they should be like seven or eight inches longer than

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Speaker 2: Jack Sawers Johnson. Instead they're like four. Yeah, because he's

679
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: so light up the shoulders.

680
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Speaker 3: Which is mostly good. But if someone's coming straight at you,

681
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: you still have short arms, you know what I mean? Right,

682
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: but still, but that's why you're a center. That's why

683
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: you're a center, right, I mean you're eating up both

684
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Speaker 3: a gaps with your shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Put it this way, Taya Sue Mattaia has thirty four

686
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Speaker 2: and two eighth inch arms and his wingspan is eighty

687
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Speaker 2: two and four eights.

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00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that that adds up, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Powers Johnson is seventy nine. He's three inches. He's got

690
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Speaker 2: a three three inch longer wingspan, but his arms themselves

691
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: are three inches longer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I just pulled up Zach Frasier. He's his arms

693
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: are like an inch and a half longer, but his

694
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: wings he's short shorter. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, and he

695
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: doesn't look short armed or problematic that way, you know.

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00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing with Keegan the Michigan Center. He got

697
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: thirty two and five eighth inch arms, but his wingspan

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: is shorter than that of Jackson Powers Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that adds up. He is a wide body, dude.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, if you're three point thirty four and

701
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Speaker 3: you're not carrying a lot extra weight and flab, it's

702
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Speaker 3: with your width. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, let's take a break here before we get

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Speaker 2: into the American team. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive and on Steeling Eastrom Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll be to talk a little bit about that second

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Speaker 2: session of practice and finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold SNR.

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Speaker 3: Steelers. Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly and he is the Matt Williamson and

713
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Speaker 2: this is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: I am here in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Matt back in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: But we're still talking a lot about the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And just talked about that practice for the National team.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on now to the American team practice, which

719
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 2: was this afternoon. And I spent a lot of time

720
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Speaker 2: watching again the the trench play and I.

721
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Speaker 3: Thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 2: Steelers offensive line assistant offensive line coach Isaac Williams is

723
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Speaker 2: coaching the offensive line for the net for the American team,

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Speaker 2: and he broke them up a little bit differently, uh

725
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Speaker 2: than they did with it. The national practice was more

726
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: of the straight what you usually see, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: someone on the when they did the one on ones,

728
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 2: they put the five linemen on you know, on the

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Speaker 2: in the in the box, had the defensive lineman or

730
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Speaker 2: the tackles or whoever lineup opposite them, and then they

731
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: would go. They split things up a little bit differently

732
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Speaker 2: for the American roster and they had the interior guys

733
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: work on double teams or showing on how they double

734
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: teamed while the tackles were out in space and did

735
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Speaker 2: things that way, and it was.

736
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Speaker 3: Just it gave me a little more.

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Speaker 2: They did some one on ones with the guards and

738
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: things of that nature, but then they did some that

739
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: the double teams, you know, kind of show how these.

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Speaker 3: Guys work with combo blocks a little bit, and I

741
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: thought that was unting. Yeah, so full disclosure, I have

742
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: not watched that practice. As soon as our show's over

743
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: here in about fifteen minutes, I am going to hunker

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Speaker 3: down and watch that one. So I can't really comment

745
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: on anything you saw or have heard much, but psyched

746
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: to see what he did. So this is a great

747
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: opportunity for some of those coaches. Oh so absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And the fun thing is is after practice was over,

749
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to talk to Isaac, you know, I'm out

750
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Speaker 2: on the field and they just finished, and he's got

751
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Speaker 2: his group of offensive linemen around him, and individually, I

752
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: think there's probably I don't know, I don't know how

753
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Speaker 2: exactly how many offensive lineman he has in his group,

754
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Speaker 2: and it's probably twelve or fifteen whatever.

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Speaker 3: There must have been eight or nine guys.

756
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Speaker 2: Who approached him after the practice was over, asking about

757
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: hand placement and and and steps and you know how

758
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: how how wide should my base be? And things of

759
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: that nature that you know, I asked him afterwards. I'm like,

760
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Speaker 2: that has to be a cool part of this, like

761
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Speaker 2: because if you were just here scouting, you wouldn't see

762
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Speaker 2: that part of it. You know, you get an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to to see how these guys learn and and you

764
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Speaker 2: know how, how seriously do they take this? And now

765
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Speaker 2: can they take what you just told them into tomorrow's practice? Okay,

766
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Speaker 2: here's here's what we're looking for on this. He says,

767
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Speaker 2: it's fantastic. It's it's absolutely a huge thing for him

768
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Speaker 2: to be able to work with some of these guys.

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Speaker 3: And he's got some dudes to work with. Let me

770
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Speaker 3: just say that he's got maybe maybe the.

771
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Speaker 2: Two best offensive tackles at the at the Senior Bowl

772
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Speaker 2: are on that team. It's arguable, obviously there's some other

773
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: there's some really good players here, but but he's got

774
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Speaker 2: Geiton who is just a monster. And he's also got

775
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Speaker 2: the Paul from from Houston, who you want to talk

776
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Speaker 2: about just having a ridiculous, ridiculous arm length. We're trying

777
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Speaker 2: to find this here. Where's he at now Geyton git

778
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Speaker 2: us thirty four and two eights inch arms in an

779
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Speaker 2: eighty two and three eighths inch wingspan. Yeah, Patrick Paul

780
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Speaker 2: from Houston six seven, three hundred and thirty three pounds,

781
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Speaker 2: thirty six and two eight inch arms, He's got an

782
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Speaker 2: eighty six and six eight inch.

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Speaker 3: Wingspan, almost eighty seven inches.

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Speaker 2: He I mean, my goodness, those two were standing in

785
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Speaker 2: the huddle, Paul and Paul playing geton like like one

786
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Speaker 2: was bigger than next.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting you brought that up because we were talking,

788
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Speaker 3: i think two segments ago about Geiton. How you're like, man,

789
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Speaker 3: he looks like a power forward. He looks lean. We

790
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Speaker 3: were talking about like Lane Johnson, et cetera. So I'm like, god,

791
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go look up his heights and ways while

792
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Speaker 3: we're at the break. And he was a little over

793
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: six seven three twenty eight despite being that lean. But

794
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Speaker 3: Paul is even more impressive with the length. Do you

795
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: know I think he's Chris Paul's brother, is he? I'm

796
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: almost certain. Yeah, he's somehow related to your cousin or

797
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: I think he's his younger brother. So you know, maybe

798
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: the basketball length comes into play here a little bit.

799
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Speaker 2: I mean of those guys look like power forwards, like

800
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: Holy mackerel.

801
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah they don't. They don't look like regular human beings.

802
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: I know that. And they can get out, both both

803
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: of them. Yeah yeah, they both moved really well.

804
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Speaker 2: And that's why that's why I thought it was interesting

805
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: that for the for the American practices, they took those

806
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 2: tackles and put the and put them way out almost

807
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: like they were just you're you're just blocking on this island.

808
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: Go ahead and block that, dude. I bet for those

809
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: two it was really advantageous.

810
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean they just definitely looked the part

811
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Speaker 2: just real quick.

812
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like this is the stage of the draft where

813
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: coaches are just starting to get familiar with these guys,

814
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: especially if you just got eliminated recently. You know. But

815
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Speaker 3: I bet o line coaches are looking at those two

816
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: and the BYU kid just saying, oh my god, give

817
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: me him, you know, I'll just do just give me

818
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 3: those traits and if he has any interest in working

819
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: hard and being great, I'll take him. Yeah. Yeah, I

820
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: mean those are the first guys off the bus kind

821
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: of things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, you look the part. You're big enough

823
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: to ride the ride. Oh, yeah, but they weren't the

824
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: only ones that stood out. You also had the kid

825
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Speaker 2: from Yukon. Okay, he looked good, Christian Haynes from Yukon.

826
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: Now he's a little order. Yeah yeah, but he's got

827
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Speaker 2: almost thirty four inch arms.

828
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you noticed or not, but

829
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Speaker 3: they said he's going to play some center this week.

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Speaker 3: He did. He did.

831
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Speaker 2: He did some snapping today.

832
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because he was a guard at Yukon and

833
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: a very good one. Yeah.

834
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Speaker 2: Now I don't know, you know, I'm not he's skilled

835
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Speaker 2: enough to tell you that.

836
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Speaker 3: Well he did.

837
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Speaker 2: He looked really good at center or not, but he

838
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: did it today and I didn't see anything going on

839
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Speaker 2: the ground or anything like that. So yeah, yeah, he

840
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 2: at least showed that he's capable or at least willing

841
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: to consider a.

842
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: Move like that. Good. Good, No, that'll help his stock.

843
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: But he's interesting.

844
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little on the short side at six

845
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: two and a half. Basically, you know, maybe once your

846
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: guard to be a little bit bigger than that. Maybe

847
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: that's why they look at him at center. But uh, potential,

848
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: he's tough, he's physical, he is physical.

849
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh, people are really high on him. His tape is good. Yeah.

850
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: They also and I didn't know much about this guy,

851
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: Christian Jones out of Texas.

852
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, those offensive tackles.

853
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: Five three eighteen again almost thirty five inch arms.

854
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

855
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: Just these guys are all like just he's this offensive

856
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: line group is really good, really good.

857
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: And again I don't know a ton about Jones either,

858
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: but he sure seems like the guy that would be

859
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: most year's a second round pick that needs a little

860
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: work that this year you might get in the third

861
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: or maybe even late, right, you know, because there's so many.

862
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just there's a bunch of those guys like

863
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: that in this draft. I mean another one, Javon Foster

864
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: out of Missouri against six five three h nine thirty

865
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Speaker 2: five inch arms, I mean, and he can play.

866
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not a fat guy, and he moves

867
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: well and I just know that name. I couldn't pick

868
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 3: him out of a lineup. But yeah, interesting, which there's

869
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: a lot of buzz on watch him in the practice today.

870
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: He is physical, Uh, hea'ts after it. And these guys

871
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: are finishers. I just like to like the way that

872
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: they approach practice day with some of this. It's it's

873
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: great too. This dealers are directly getting their hands on

874
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: these last couple of guys we made.

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Speaker 2: The American team doesn't have the name value as some

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Speaker 2: of the as the national team does.

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Speaker 3: They might be deeper though you think guy haven't studied

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Speaker 3: the rosters. I know that the Naggy, Jim Naggy was

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Speaker 3: a little concerned with not the bottom of the Senior

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Speaker 3: draft is great, you know, six to seventh fifth rounds

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Speaker 3: type of thing. Because this is the last year we're

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Speaker 3: having some COVID problems and noseme juniors came out. But man,

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Speaker 3: it seems like there's a lot of Day one and

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Speaker 3: Day two picks and mobile right now. A lot.

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Speaker 2: And I think what we're seeing here is is again

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Speaker 2: because of the COVID stuff.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how many of.

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Speaker 2: These guys are true seniors or anything like that, but

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Speaker 2: these are guys that have played a lot of football

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Speaker 2: for the most point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of six of your guys fifth year guys,

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Speaker 3: you know, four year starters. Things like that. You would

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Speaker 3: think you'd be able to help quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But Matt, that's going to do it for

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Speaker 2: our show today.

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Speaker 3: Someone fast we love fast, we had labs, we had

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Speaker 3: a coordinator, we got Senior Bowl like everything, like the

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Speaker 3: Sparsity thing. Past these things out so we can save

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Speaker 3: some of them. But we could have done a whole

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Speaker 3: show on any of those things. On topics, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But we'll be back again tomorrow to bring you more

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Speaker 2: of our ongoing coverage here on Steelers Nation Radio. That's

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Speaker 2: going to do it for our show today. So for

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Speaker 2: my partner Matt Williamson for CJ. Wolfe back in the

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Speaker 2: studio keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lollie. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate you listening to this edition of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steeler's Nation Radio.