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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian. Oh my god, you're your hosts, John Annick

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Speaker 4: and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: And thank you as always for being with us.

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Speaker 6: It is Monday, June eighteenth, twenty eighteen, Episode one sixty.

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Speaker 5: Well that sounds good of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: Hope you all had a good Father's Day, good weekend,

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Speaker 6: and I hope your kid is as cute as Kenflow's daughter.

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Speaker 6: True Florian, because that was not the way I intended

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Speaker 6: But my god, I mean I would be I would

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Speaker 3: Thank you, man.

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Speaker 3: You know, how was your How was your Father's day? Dude?

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that, and eventually all the fine BJJ practitioners

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Speaker 5: So a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 6: It was an off week for the UFC a week ago,

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Speaker 6: but that does not mean there weren't any headlines. Of course,

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Speaker 6: you got Ken Flows picks for UFC Singapore coming up.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna check in with Tyler Minton here in about

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Speaker 6: five minutes as we talk about this whole way in

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Speaker 6: movement back to the afternoons in all likelihood for the UFC.

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Speaker 6: He's also embedded right now in Hawaii with UFC featherweight

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Speaker 6: champion Max Holloway. So a lot to get to with

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Speaker 6: Tyler ray Longo in about twenty minutes, and some other

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Speaker 6: UFC headlines as well, involving Steven wonder Boy Thompson and

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Speaker 6: Darren Till and kicks to the knee. But I want

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Speaker 6: to start just briefly with the World Cup, because this

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Speaker 6: Peruvian outfit can flow. I know it did not go

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Speaker 6: of the funter teams to watch for my money. Just

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Speaker 7: You know, they played some pretty football the other day,

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Speaker 7: but you know, I just couldn't put the ball in

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Speaker 7: Peru was dominating the match, but again just couldn't get

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Speaker 6: So plus two thirty five hundred dogs against France. To

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Speaker 6: I was a goalie, not a very good one, and

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Speaker 6: I certainly tune in every four years for the World Cup.

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Speaker 6: I have watched almost every game that's been on. Comes

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Speaker 3: But you know, Brazil play into a draw.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Italy's not even in the tournament, the Netherlands

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Speaker 5: So Germany, how about.

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Speaker 7: How about Germany losing to Mexico won nothing, which is crazy.

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Speaker 7: I get the feeling something I think we might see

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Speaker 7: I just have a feeling that with what's going on,

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Speaker 6: Well, Saudi Arabia is not winning it, Sweeten with a

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Speaker 6: So before we bring on Tyler Minton, I just want

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Speaker 3: Daniel Cormier and Steve A.

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Speaker 6: Miachicic now twenty days away, so I don't want to

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Speaker 5: We're moving back to the afternoon way.

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Speaker 6: And now I don't know when this is going to happen,

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Speaker 5: And Dana said, the numbers don't lie.

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Speaker 6: We've talked to fighters that ton of fighters want to

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Speaker 6: positives in this equation for some fighters, Right, Daniel Cormier,

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Speaker 7: This is interesting. There's a bunch of things here. There's

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Speaker 3: It just it would have been a little bit more challenging.

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Speaker 7: First of all, when you're cutting weight and you're cutting

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Speaker 3: So that's the big challenge I think for the organization.

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Speaker 6: And I will get it into some of the logistical

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Speaker 6: I think add a lot to it. He is joining

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Speaker 5: The Melee Way, Tyler Minton is with us. Tyler, what's up?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 9: Hey Man, how are you guys?

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Speaker 5: We are doing well.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate you giving us some time here before some

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Speaker 6: So we sort of talked off the top of the

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Speaker 6: Tyler Minton, we'll let you get back to it with

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: the mix for us. Right at least when we've had

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Speaker 6: fighters miss we've had several hours before the ceremonial way

440
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Speaker 6: and to get our ducks back in a row. So

441
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Speaker 6: it's not being done for live production. I think in

442
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Speaker 6: some part maybe it's being done for the fans.

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Speaker 3: Kenny.

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Speaker 6: As we mentioned, the ceremonial way in is free, it

445
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Speaker 6: is open to the public. It's a big cornerstone of

446
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Speaker 6: fight week. I know for me as an MMA fan,

447
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Speaker 6: it was one of the things that I really got

448
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Speaker 6: excited about, you know, the days of the boxing weigh

449
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Speaker 6: ins with five ten thousand people there to see Floyd Mayweather.

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Speaker 6: But ultimately, the masters that you want to serve here

451
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Speaker 6: are the fighters. And it would seem to me that

452
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Speaker 6: if there is a way to preserve one hour in

453
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Speaker 6: the morning for these guys to be able to weigh

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Speaker 6: in from nine to ten and then if they don't

455
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Speaker 6: make weight, come back at four, I think that would

456
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Speaker 6: make a lot of sense, and I think it would

457
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Speaker 6: please a lot of people. Logistically, I don't know, sort

458
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Speaker 6: of hinting that commissioners have to show up twice. There's

459
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Speaker 6: a lot of different people in this equation, But I

460
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Speaker 6: just I don't know that they're gonna be able to

461
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Speaker 6: take away that morning way and option for the fighters

462
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Speaker 6: at this point, haven't given it to them.

463
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Speaker 3: I really don't. It's tough.

464
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Speaker 7: And again, the majority of fighters are making weight, So

465
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Speaker 7: that's the big problem for those guys that are professionals.

466
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Speaker 7: For those guys that are on top of their weight,

467
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Speaker 7: why should they suffer? Why should they suffer throughout the

468
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Speaker 7: day and wait to make that weight? You know, it's terrible. Again,

469
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Speaker 7: So a lot of these guys that are already close

470
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Speaker 7: to weight, they're already making weight, they have to wait

471
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Speaker 7: till four o'clock to weigh in. It's brutal. Not only

472
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Speaker 7: not to mention it takes longer for them to recover.

473
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Speaker 7: So this is a tricky one. But at the same time,

474
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Speaker 7: nobody likes a misfight. Nobody wants a fight to not happen,

475
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Speaker 7: and that's what's happening with these early wayans as well.

476
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Speaker 3: So it's a tough one. Man, This is a tough one.

477
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Speaker 6: The toughest thing about it for the fighters is that

478
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Speaker 6: one pm to four pm window, Right, You're gonna have

479
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Speaker 6: to be on weight for two or three hours, whereas

480
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Speaker 6: with the nine to thirty am weigh and you could

481
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Speaker 6: be on weight for two minutes way in and immediately

482
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Speaker 6: start to rehydrate transporting from the hotel to the venue

483
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Speaker 6: or the site of the wigh in. Being on weight,

484
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Speaker 6: you know, we get the fighters there at least thirty

485
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Speaker 6: five to forty minutes prior, so just sitting there and

486
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Speaker 6: going back to that reality, I think it's going to

487
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Speaker 6: be very difficult for a lot of fighters who were

488
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Speaker 6: so happy to see that part of it go away.

489
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Speaker 6: There's an interesting article on MMA fighting dot com about

490
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Speaker 6: Craig White, you may recall, who made his UFC debut

491
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Speaker 6: recently on short notice against Neil Magni. He cut forty

492
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Speaker 6: six pounds in two weeks. He was two hundred and

493
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Speaker 6: seventeen two hundred and sixteen pounds when he got the

494
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Speaker 6: call to fight Neil Magni. Now, in April of twenty fourteen,

495
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Speaker 6: he cut thirty seven pounds in nine days for a

496
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Speaker 6: fight against John Redman. Promised his coach and his girlfriend

497
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Speaker 6: it would never happen again. But of course the Magni

498
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Speaker 6: call comes in and one thing leads to another. He

499
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Speaker 6: had fourteen bats I guess in the final twelve hours

500
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Speaker 6: and eventually was able to make the number. You can

501
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Speaker 6: imagine what his reaction was when, of course Darren Till

502
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Speaker 6: missed for the main event. But that when you read that,

503
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 6: write forty six pounds in two weeks, there is nothing

504
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Speaker 6: good about that. I mean, what's the girlfriend say to that.

505
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 6: I know she's happy you're in the UFC, but we've

506
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Speaker 6: got to try to avoid these situations, seemingly at all costs.

507
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Speaker 6: And if that means eliminating weight cutting from the sport

508
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Speaker 6: or something, I know it sounds drastic and unrealistic and

509
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 6: ambitious and everything else, but forty six lbs in two

510
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Speaker 6: weeks can flow?

511
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Speaker 9: That is?

512
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Speaker 3: That is awful. It is awful.

513
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Speaker 7: It's insane, It is not healthy, it is dangerous. That's

514
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Speaker 7: something that shouldn't happen. You know, that's something that shouldn't happen.

515
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Speaker 7: And again, I get it, you want to fight in

516
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Speaker 7: the UFC and all that stuff.

517
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Speaker 3: I love that commitment, but that is that is a

518
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Speaker 3: little much, man.

519
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Speaker 7: That that's where we start getting in a territory and imagine,

520
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Speaker 7: God forbid if something ever happened where we go. Oh yeah,

521
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Speaker 7: he was cutting forty six pounds. Who let that happen?

522
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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 6: Right, well hard though, because when Craig White gets that

524
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Speaker 6: call and they say what do you weigh?

525
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Speaker 5: Certainly not telling him you wait till sixteen?

526
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Speaker 7: Right, No, And that's the thing is he's not exactly

527
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Speaker 7: being forthcoming with what his weight is out. He just

528
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Speaker 7: wants to fight the UFC, and that again, that's where

529
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Speaker 7: it gets very very dangerous for me.

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Speaker 5: Man all right, Moving on to Ray long Win.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 11: It's now time.

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Speaker 4: For the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking That's

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Speaker 3: what I want.

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Speaker 4: With the Ray long Minute. Dray John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 6: And the Venerable Ray Longo now joins us. Sorry to

561
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Speaker 6: keep you waiting, my man, Happy Father's day.

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Speaker 8: Oh, the happy Father's Day to you two guys. To man, really, uh,

563
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Speaker 8: I hope you had a great Father's day. Kenny, I

564
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Speaker 8: see what a smile on your face.

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Speaker 3: Thank you good one.

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Speaker 8: He can't control himself. Job, unbelievable.

567
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Speaker 3: It's just having you on it gets me smiling.

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Speaker 11: Dude, I got a handcut for the podcast. How's the look?

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Speaker 3: Finally there we go. Now that's the Ray Longo we know.

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Speaker 11: Oh, there you go.

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Speaker 3: That's good shot. I love it.

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Speaker 6: a number of different directions. I want to go with you,

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Speaker 6: but I want to read you some quotes from Steven

587
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Speaker 6: WonderBoy Thompson courtesybjpenn dot Com in terms of Darren Till's

588
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Speaker 6: targeting Thompson's lead knee with these sidekicks. I'm gonna read

589
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Speaker 6: the quote quickly because I want you.

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Speaker 3: To hear all of it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, this is from Stephen wonder Boy Thompson. I honestly

592
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Speaker 6: think that strike should be made illegal. It could end

593
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Speaker 6: somebody's career. You know, Robert Whitaker had to have acl

594
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Speaker 6: surgery following his first fight with Joel Romero.

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Speaker 5: Due to that particular strike.

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Speaker 6: As you could see, Whitaker made sure to beat Romero

597
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Speaker 6: to the punch in their second fight. He threw a

598
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Speaker 6: lot more than he did this time around. It is

599
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Speaker 6: just a very dangerous technique. I think a lot of

600
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Speaker 6: fighters throw that strike, but sometimes it is for different reasons.

601
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Speaker 6: When I fought Jorge Mosfiedal, he used that same sidekick

602
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Speaker 6: to the knee. But when George threw it, he was

603
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Speaker 6: doing so just to keep me away, not in an

604
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Speaker 6: attempt to injure my knee.

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Speaker 3: And here's the rub.

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Speaker 6: When I was in the cage fighting till it felt like, Okay,

607
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Speaker 6: this guy is trying to break my leg. It was

608
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Speaker 6: like he had intentions of ripping everything out in my knee.

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Speaker 6: That's how I felt anyway, like this dude is really

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Speaker 6: trying to injure me in here. I think it's an

611
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Speaker 6: ugly strike and that it should be made illegal now

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people fall on the other

613
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Speaker 6: side of this equation. Right, this is two men fighting

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Speaker 6: in a cage. This is a kick to a lower limb,

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Speaker 6: and they don't see an issue with it.

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Speaker 3: Where do you fall on?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 11: Man, I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we're in a sport where you know. I mean,

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Speaker 8: you could easily say, man, this guy was punching me

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Speaker 8: in the head like he really wanted to knock me out, right,

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So, I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 8: it is what it is. I mean, you know, they

624
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Speaker 8: could do whatever they want with it, but for right now,

625
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Speaker 8: you know, everybody's looking for an edge, and if that's

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Speaker 8: what you have to do to keep somebody away, I'm

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Speaker 8: not I'm not going to agree with him on that totally,

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Speaker 8: but you know I could see if it you know,

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Speaker 8: it's almost like I don't know. I mean, like again,

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Speaker 8: we're in a sport. You know what you signed up for.

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Speaker 8: There's nothing good about a guy creating his shit into

632
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Speaker 8: your temple and to the side of your leg, your ridge.

633
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Speaker 8: I mean, it's just is what it is.

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Speaker 12: Man.

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Speaker 8: So I mean, you give won the boy enough time

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Speaker 8: and he'll figure out that that lake won't even be

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Speaker 8: there the next time he saw it kicks, I guarantee you.

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Speaker 8: So he might be expressing himself one way, but like again,

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Speaker 8: it is what it is. I mean, and he's so

640
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Speaker 8: gifted that he could do so many things that you know,

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Speaker 8: I think you know, guys have to guys have to

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Speaker 8: survive in there too. I mean, wonder boys, he's a

643
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Speaker 8: handful for anybody. So because he's got great flexibility and

644
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Speaker 8: he can kick you in the head, you could say, look,

645
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Speaker 8: this guy's trying to kick me in the temple, rendomly

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Speaker 8: unconscious with the heel of his foot, and it'll never end.

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Speaker 8: So I'm saying for right now, it is. It is

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Speaker 8: what it is, man. It's a it's a tough sport.

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Speaker 8: You know what you sign up for and train appropriately.

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Speaker 8: And again I think that's something that wonder Boy will

651
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Speaker 8: figure out in the future very easily.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a trick. It's a tricky one.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we saw Whittaker and the adjustments he made

654
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Speaker 7: against Romero in a second fight. He actually was attacking

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Speaker 7: Romero's fight with the exact same kick. It seemed like

656
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Speaker 7: he was looking for revenge there.

657
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Speaker 8: No, it's tough that that that right the feeling that

658
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 8: had the feeling of revenge too.

659
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah he was. And that's the tough thing. I mean.

660
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: The other thing is you can do a knee bar

661
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: in the UFC. You can try to rip someone's knee

662
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: open that way.

663
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 8: So is nothing that happens in that out there guy

664
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 8: that you can't make the case for. I mean, I

665
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 8: don't know, man, I might take the knee kick over,

666
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 8: you know, getting hit with a shint to my temple, right,

667
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean that's where it gets tricky.

668
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 8: I mean, it's nothing as far as health and safety.

669
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 8: There's nothing good doing not in there. There's nothing, there's

670
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 8: nothing going on. You know, it's a it's a fight, man.

671
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 8: You know, you make the commitment to walk in there.

672
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 8: You know you got to be prepared to do whatever.

673
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 7: Well, I want to continue to talk on health and

674
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 7: safety rate. We were talking earlier about the weigh ins.

675
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 7: Where do you fall in the conversation as far as

676
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 7: do you prefer the early wayans for the fighters or

677
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 7: do you like the later wayans?

678
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: What? What do you think is better for you? For

679
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: you for your guys?

680
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I can tell you me personally, I

681
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 8: don't like the early wayans because I don't like getting

682
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 8: up there.

683
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 11: Yes, it's true, so it's an easy it's an easy

684
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 11: one for me.

685
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 8: I like to wait a minute.

686
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 11: About nine o'clock at night. Yeah, but now look that's

687
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 11: a that's a question you asked.

688
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 8: The bite is everybody's different.

689
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

690
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 8: Look, the key with everything is these guys they have

691
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 8: to start making weight when they get the call eight

692
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 8: weeks out.

693
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 11: They won't have a problem.

694
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 8: If you're disciplined, if you're into health yourself, if you're

695
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 8: into health and safety, forget about leaving it to the

696
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 8: commissions at this point, leave it to yourself. That's the

697
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 8: only thing I could say. Now, do the right thing.

698
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 8: I guarantee it won't be an issue. And if it's

699
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 8: an issue, you have to move up and wait. But

700
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 8: if you're doing the right thing, you start at the

701
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 8: right time. Again, it's not like, you know, the last

702
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 8: week you cram everything in. You should be doing this

703
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 8: weight cut eight weeks out eating right, you're working out

704
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 8: the right way, that weight will definitely come off. There's

705
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 8: enough science to base that on. I mean, there's so

706
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 8: many great ways of you know, losing weight at this

707
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 8: point and staying healthy you know, look, no matter what

708
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 8: time you have it, there's always going to be those

709
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 8: guys that don't make weight. So I think for the

710
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 8: most part, everybody liked the early ways because they can rehire.

711
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 8: You get that extra eight hours. That's huge, you know.

712
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 8: So for the safety of the fighter, that seems to

713
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 8: be the way to go. Get them rehydrated, to get

714
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 8: that water back up to the brain. You know, less

715
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 8: shocked on this less that all good, So you know,

716
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 8: I'm in favor of whatever's safer for the fighter. You'd

717
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 8: really have to look at the research and see what

718
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 8: it says. But again, we're in a sport where you

719
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 8: can't fry your internal organs over.

720
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 11: And over again like that. The guy losing forty pounds

721
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 11: over it.

722
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: He's just crazy.

723
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 11: Is there anybody that's gonna tell him that's good for him?

724
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 8: You know? But with any sport, with anything you do

725
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 8: in life, there comes, you know, a risk reward ratio,

726
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 8: and that's up to the fighter. As long as you

727
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 8: educate everybody and make them make let everybody know what

728
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 8: the upside is and the downside, they make the decision,

729
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 8: and the athletic commissions just there to enforce the rules

730
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 8: and to, you know, make sure that they do everything

731
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 8: right for the safety of the fighter.

732
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 11: And that's it. But I'm going to say the early

733
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 11: way and seem to be good for the fighter.

734
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 6: And you know a lot of people look at that

735
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 6: Darren Til video and are freaking out, And obviously we've

736
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: said here, you're lucky you didn't see the video of

737
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 6: Kenny floor and cutting to featherweight, because it made that

738
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 6: dere Til video look like Christmas. Honestly, I tell the story,

739
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: and it's a true story. The guy couldn't even speak.

740
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 6: I was sitting next to him, and his team left him.

741
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 6: His team actually left him. I think Chamberg went out

742
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 6: to get a hamburger. It was like a scene out

743
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 6: of The god They.

744
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 7: Were exhausted, Let's put it that way. The coaches cutting

745
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 7: weight with me were exhausted.

746
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 8: And I gotta tell you, I mean, John, it was

747
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 8: like a scene out of The Godfather when they left

748
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 8: the old man in the hospital.

749
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 11: I mean, I felt like Enzo to Baker. I had

750
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 11: to come say that.

751
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: And they had to put your hands in your pocket.

752
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 3: Is this in case you had a gun in there?

753
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 8: Yeah?

754
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 11: And he had he had that poor account.

755
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Ray came to my rescue there. That was awesome.

756
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 11: I swear to God it's the truth.

757
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 8: Bud. How about to take a fucking height. The guy

758
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 8: can't even speak? And then I had been apologize to

759
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 8: the guy.

760
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: You almost slapped him. That was hilarious.

761
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 11: He's like, hey, guy, and he couldn't even to look

762
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 11: at me. This is true.

763
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 8: I feel his hand tapping my leg saying thank you.

764
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 8: I couldn't even speaks Rin Vancouver. Yeah, and I think

765
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 8: when I even told you though the other you had

766
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 8: to think about it. That's how Faddy was. And look

767
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 8: I saw Widman and with the Damien Maya fight. I

768
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 8: never want to see that again in my life. Gut

769
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 8: wrenching brought a couple of guys to tears.

770
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 11: It's just not good.

771
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 8: But I do remember getting back to the hotel room

772
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 8: with Chris after the fight. It was almost like simultaneous.

773
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 8: It was crazy. We just look at each other go

774
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 8: like never again, like that, never going through. I never

775
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 8: want to see you do that again, like ever. And

776
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 8: this was at the beginning of his career.

777
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 6: And I know we belabor the point a little bit,

778
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 6: but I kind of feel like the more we talk

779
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 6: about it, the more of a chance there is that

780
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: change will be affected.

781
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 8: You know, That's the only thing you could do, Johnny,

782
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 8: is keep educating. People are talking about it. It's it's

783
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 8: a great thing. You have to keep beating it, and

784
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 8: oh it's nothing will happen. That's what look at most

785
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 8: of these situations, they just want you to go away.

786
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 8: They don't want to talk about it. They want no resistance.

787
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 8: So the more you speak on these things, the more

788
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 8: educated people are, the more involved they get, they become

789
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 8: in the topic, and I think it's better for everybody.

790
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 8: But really, I think the fighters really have to take

791
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 8: responsibility and do the right thing. And I'm sure there's

792
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 8: a lot of fighters that'll say that, you know what

793
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 8: I mean, that they are so in tune with their

794
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 8: nutrition and their workouts that they don't have a problem

795
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 8: making weight, But that Chrish making weight is awful.

796
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 5: Man, terrible.

797
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 6: There's a lot of different penalty structures you could put

798
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 6: in there. Ken Flow went on National TV, I believe

799
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 6: and said that three strikes in your out. If you

800
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 6: miss way three times in the UFC, you're gone. Certainly

801
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: to me, you missed twice in the same weight class,

802
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 6: and respectfully to Darren Till already missing twice at welterweight

803
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 6: and six UFC appearances or so I think you're gone,

804
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 6: and I will say just to put a button on

805
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 6: In terms of the visual, right when we had a

806
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 6: pay per view in Perth, Australia earlier this year, it

807
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 6: was like the old school way in where the fighters

808
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 6: came to the arena on weight and seeing Luke Rockold's

809
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 6: sit in that arena on wait for an hour is

810
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 6: just as bad a visual as seeing darun Till getting.

811
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 5: Picked up by eight men, right Rockell.

812
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 6: I mean it's so that's the scary visual for me

813
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: that potentially we're going back to.

814
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: That gives me pause. This guy's sitting miserable and.

815
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 8: Like you said, I think leading up to it, you

816
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 8: gotta get on the bus, you gotta do this. These

817
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 8: guys just want to get on that scale and rehydrate

818
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 8: as quick as possible. Yeah, I don't know, man, it's

819
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 8: it's I don't think that's solved in anything by switching,

820
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 8: to be honest with, you're still gonna have guys missweight.

821
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 8: And again somebody brought up a good point. We were

822
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 8: talking the other day and they said, if you misswaight

823
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 8: like Darren Tilly. He automatically loses a point in the

824
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 8: first round, so you're down a point going in there.

825
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 8: You know, you got to make it as hard as

826
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 8: possible for this guy to win that fight.

827
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 11: You know, take the money away, take a point away.

828
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 8: And start to fight in the deficit, and uh maybe

829
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 8: that'll help. But you know, I think human nature is

830
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 8: human nature, and the guys that are gonna try to,

831
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 8: you know, get every possible advantage, You're still gonna misweight

832
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 8: and the guys that are conscientious are always gonna make weight.

833
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: All right, last thing and we'll let you go.

834
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 6: So two weeks from today, we will need your prediction

835
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 6: on step A Miatchick and Daniel Cormier for the UFC

836
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 6: heavyweight title, which is July seventh, but a couple weeks out.

837
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: You know both of these guys pretty well. I know

838
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 6: you tend to lean towards the bigger guy. You think

839
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 6: size matters, and that has proven to be that has

840
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 6: proven to sort of work out in your favor in

841
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 6: a lot of matchups where you backed the bigger guy.

842
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 6: I mean, do you think size is the biggest factor

843
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 6: in this fight between steep A and DC?

844
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 11: You know, no, I think size is gonna play a factor.

845
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 8: And obviously I consider step A a friend, so I'm

846
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 8: picking step A to win. But Steve A can also wrestle,

847
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, So he's gonna have a

848
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 8: big range advantage. And I think if DC doesn't get

849
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 8: his way with the wrestling and he starts to get

850
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 8: a little tired, that would not work in his favor.

851
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 8: I wouldn't want to be tired with steep A. You know,

852
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 8: throne punches at me. But I think it's gonna be

853
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 8: the size will be a big advantage for a couple

854
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 8: of different reasons. But Steve as also a killer, you

855
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 8: know what I mean, And uh, there's gonna be I mean, heightwise,

856
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 8: there's a huge size advantage. DC is as wide as

857
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 8: a as a building though, I mean, his bag is huge.

858
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 8: So and we've seen him. I don't even think he's

859
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 8: ever lost as a heavyweights.

860
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: Undefeated as a heavyweight, Yeah right, I.

861
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 11: Don't think so.

862
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 8: I mean, I I just remember he's as we're talking,

863
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 8: him picking up Josh Bonnette and just flinging him around.

864
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 11: Like a rag doll.

865
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 8: So really curious about this, But he did struggle with

866
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 8: John Jones. I don't know if that was the weight.

867
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 8: But I think it's gonna be a similar fight like that,

868
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 8: only Steve is probably gonna have a little more power.

869
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 11: And uh, it's gonna be a great fight. I'm excited

870
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 11: for that fight for sure.

871
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 6: All Right, man, Well we're off next week because I

872
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 6: got a third kid coming, I believe, So next.

873
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: Week, no excuses, right, Ray, no excuse.

874
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Speaker 5: You want to host? You want the one share killing

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Speaker 5: over here?

876
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Speaker 6: No, I Hey, if you want to step in the

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Speaker 6: one chair, be the longo imploring show, the show.

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Speaker 11: I'm a loyal guy, but I'm imporing you. It's only

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Speaker 11: a kid, It's only he's been there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm a loud clear man.

882
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Speaker 6: If there was a get out of jail free card

883
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Speaker 6: for the labor, I'd probably use it.

884
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Speaker 3: Man, I'm not like looking forward to it.

885
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Speaker 8: John. Back in the day, the husbands were never in

886
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Speaker 8: that rule their friends.

887
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Speaker 11: The podcast just make like it's nineteen.

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Speaker 6: Seventy eight, you know what, I think I'm going to

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Speaker 6: open this conversation with my wife as soon as this podcast.

890
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Speaker 11: I have a lot of experience with kids.

891
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not happening.

892
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Speaker 11: Let her take care of what she has to take

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Speaker 11: care of.

894
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Speaker 3: Chrissy, Chrissy submission round one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, thanks buddy, have a good week.

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Speaker 11: Okay, well you guys, i'll see it.

897
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Speaker 8: I'll see it in a couple of weeks, and good luck

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Speaker 8: with everything gone. Congrats and happy Father's dated of both

899
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Speaker 8: of you guys.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Ray saying to you, but thank you buddy, See

901
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Speaker 6: you Ray, Ray Longo working hard on that. Matt Sarah's

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Speaker 6: speech coming up at the UFC Hall of Fame Induction

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Speaker 6: ceremony Thursday, July fifth in Las Vegas. You can get

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Speaker 6: tickets at ticketmaster dot com. All the proceeds go to

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Speaker 6: charity Come support us. Ronda is getting in the Hall

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Speaker 6: of Fame. Let's pack the place for her.

907
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: In terms of steep A and DC.

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00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 6: Before we get to the Singapore picks, we've seen a

909
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 6: lot of line movement here. Kenny Daniel Cormier at one

910
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 6: point about a week ago when I last checked, could

911
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 6: be had around plus one sixty five.

912
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: Now he is plus two ten.

913
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: So Steve A.

914
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 6: Miatcich has gone from minus one eighty five to minus

915
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Speaker 6: two sixty five. So that is pretty significant movement about

916
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Speaker 6: eighty cents towards steep A and in terms of common opponents,

917
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Speaker 6: they have one Roy Nelson. They beat him on points,

918
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 6: both of them. DC has a lot of experience at

919
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 6: heavyweight against big men thirteen to zero, beat Josh Barnett

920
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 6: over twenty five minutes. But I brought up the size

921
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: thing to Ray Longo, and I know you're leaning towards Stepe,

922
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 6: and we're not asking you to make a pick here today,

923
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 6: but I do think size matters, and DC did have

924
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 6: trepidation when he was asked to enter that Strikeforce Heavyweight

925
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 6: Grand Prix on short notice. You may recall he stepped

926
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Speaker 6: in for Alistro Riem against Antonio Bigfoot Silvan about four

927
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Speaker 6: or five weeks notice, and at the time he was

928
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Speaker 6: quoted as saying, I don't know, you know, I'm giving

929
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 6: up a lot of height and reach and size, and

930
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: obviously the results speak for themselves, but I think this

931
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 6: is a huge ask, and I think maybe some of

932
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 6: these sharp betters out there are starting to back the

933
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 6: bigger guy.

934
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: A couple weeks out from the super.

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Speaker 7: Fun Yeah, listen, Stepe has more advantages than DC. There's

936
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Speaker 7: no doubt about it. You look at not only the

937
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 7: fact that DC that Sipe sorry, is the larger man

938
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 7: but look at what he's done at heavyweight man and

939
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 7: all the guys that he's beaten. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: DC certainly has his hands full. But one thing we

941
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Speaker 7: can't forget is DC always finds a way to win.

942
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Speaker 7: Besides John Jones, he has always found a way to win.

943
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Speaker 7: He is a guy that will always make a fight competitive.

944
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 7: We forget that first fight against John Jones. He did

945
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Speaker 7: go the distance and then in and I had it

946
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Speaker 7: three rounds to two for Jones. And then in the

947
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 7: second fight, he was doing great in that first round.

948
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Speaker 7: I thought he won that first round. He was landing

949
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 7: some big shots on Jones, and then of course we

950
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 7: didn't know what happened after that when he got.

951
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: Caught with that kick. Step A isn't a big kicker.

952
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 7: He doesn't look for a lot of high kicks. I

953
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 7: think as far as going against a guy who primarily

954
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 7: approaches the game with boxing, it allows DC to get

955
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 7: in on those legs a little bit easier than going

956
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 7: against a guy likes to knee a lot or kick

957
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 7: a lot, mix things up.

958
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: Step A really isn't that guy. Doesn't mean he's not dangerous.

959
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 7: Stepe is still very dangerous if he lands a shot,

960
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 7: he could knock out anybody, So that's where DC really

961
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 7: needs to be careful. But I like the way that

962
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 7: DC matches up against him as far as his ability

963
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 7: to get in on those legs, utilize his wrestling, land

964
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 7: some shots from the outside, and I think d DC

965
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Speaker 7: likes fighting at heavyweight because he feels like he has

966
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 7: way more energy, He's happier in his training camp, he

967
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 7: feels like he's gonna be the faster guy out there.

968
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: I think he will against steep Ay.

969
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Speaker 7: So there are some the definite advantages for DC heading

970
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 7: into this one as well. A tough fight, nonetheless, though

971
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 7: I think you.

972
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Speaker 6: Set up a lot of that well. In terms of

973
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 6: his path to victory. I think in past matchups for

974
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 6: d C there has been a more clear path to

975
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 6: victory on paper when you break down the two fighters,

976
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 6: and in this particular matchup, you think that even though

977
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: Stepe hasn't faced faced a wrestler of d c's quality,

978
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: that is DC going to be able to control this

979
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 6: guy on the ground and tire this guy who maybe

980
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: is not on a Cane Velasquez Cardio level necessarily. But

981
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 6: look what Stepe did to Francis and Ghanu right, that

982
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 6: required a lot of energy, a lot of he might be.

983
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 7: Though, that's the thing he might he might be. I

984
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 7: mean that that fight against Anghanu. You look at his

985
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 7: fights against junior descent, I mean, just ridiculous.

986
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 6: And one thing to the we mentioned on the broadcast

987
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 6: leading up to the fight between Stepe and Francis and Ganu.

988
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 6: The Michi people, you know, they don't speak or toot

989
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 6: their own horn or you know they're not loud people inherently,

990
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 6: but he knocked out eight people in two weeks leading

991
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 6: up to that in Gano fight and training, and that

992
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 6: just wasn't something that was happening training camp in and

993
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 6: training camp out for steep A. So he is still

994
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 6: an evolving, developing heavyweight that, in theory, is gonna put

995
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 6: his best foot forward and put out the best version

996
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 6: on July seventh against Daniel Cormier, who just turned thirty nine,

997
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: I believe back in March.

998
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 5: So hey, I'm knocked out in DC. You can be sure.

999
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 6: I certainly know him better in this equation than I

1000
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 6: do steep A. But I just think that if Daniel

1001
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 6: Cormier is able to become a two division champion simultaneously

1002
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 6: at light heavyweight and heavyweight.

1003
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: Here in twenty days.

1004
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna be talking about arguably the greatest mixed martial

1005
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: artist of all time.

1006
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 6: All right, we got to spin this thing forward to Singapore.

1007
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 6: We are ready with our guest picker. Let's get to

1008
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 6: the main event challenge.

1009
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: It's the main event challenge and the time is most

1010
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: definitely Hi Fish fight.

1011
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: How do everything, boss, We'll do win the main event

1012
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: challenge to John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1013
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 6: I'm just remembering that this UFC Fight Night show from

1014
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 6: Singapore is going to be going head to head with

1015
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 6: the World Cupken Flows Oh yeah, worn on Saturday morning.

1016
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: Four fights on the main cart in Singapore this weekend.

1017
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 6: It starts at eight am Eastern. Does the main card

1018
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 6: on UFC Fight Pass quickly? We update the standings. It

1019
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 6: was seventy to fifty seven. Good guys. Going into UFC

1020
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 6: two twenty five. You went head to head with Ian McInerney.

1021
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 6: I'm not going to rehash all the results, but you

1022
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 6: tied five to five. So the lead for Team Annex

1023
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 6: seventy five sixty two and joining us to make picks today.

1024
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 6: He is twenty seventy years old, fighting out of Kansas City, Missouri.

1025
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 6: Lifelong wrestler now jiu jitsu competitor Ken Flow. He's eighty two,

1026
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 6: is a white belt, also a license attorney. Josh Hayter

1027
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 6: is with us. Josh, how are you man?

1028
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 9: What's up?

1029
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: Guys?

1030
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 12: How's it going?

1031
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: Did I get that last name right?

1032
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: Hayner?

1033
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 12: Yes, sir? Doing what professional?

1034
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 6: Good man? So back to back attorneys for Team Annik.

1035
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 6: We're getting the intelligent guys.

1036
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: The year here.

1037
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: All right, let's get to it, guys.

1038
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 6: First fight, the leech Lee Jing liong prohibited favorite here

1039
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 6: minus four hundred taking on the plus three hundred dog

1040
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 6: Deitsch Abe. So the Leech has won four of five

1041
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: bonus in his last three. He is, though, coming off

1042
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 6: that loss to Jake Matthews that was in Perth in

1043
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 6: Australia in February. You reme remember the eye gouges from

1044
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 6: the leech in that fight. Abe won in one of

1045
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 6: the UFC has a win over Hung Hu Limb. Josh

1046
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 6: not much known on Abe, at least comparatively given the

1047
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: leeches UFC experience.

1048
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: You're going with the underdog or the favorite here on

1049
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 5: the main card open.

1050
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 12: I'm not to go with the favorite here. I sided

1051
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 12: with Jillian pretty big. He has nine fights in the UFC.

1052
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 12: Abby only has seven professional fights in general. So I

1053
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 12: think that Jillyong will be able to use his octagon

1054
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 12: experience to win. And I think by Ko potentially.

1055
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 6: Ken Flow Lee Jingleong tenth UFC appearance coming up on

1056
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 6: it for him. What do you think about the Leachs

1057
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 6: this weekend against ob It.

1058
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 7: If he can get those eye gouges going again, is

1059
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 7: a great chance of getting on.

1060
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna gon go with tig Lee Young.

1061
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 7: I think he wins this one. I'll be I think

1062
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 7: it's a better fighter than what the odds are saying.

1063
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 7: But uh yeah, going with Lee.

1064
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 5: That is funny.

1065
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 6: If he could somehow get those eye gouges, Yeah, dude,

1066
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 6: those greaty will let him do it. Give me the

1067
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 6: leech by eye gouge in round one, all right. Also

1068
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 6: on the main card, Fellas at Flyway, Jessica Rose Clark

1069
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 6: a minus one sixty favorite. Jessica I coming back at

1070
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 6: plus one thirty so far pretty good for Clark two

1071
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 6: and zero in the UFC. Josh, you're going with Jessica

1072
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: Rose Clark or Jessica I.

1073
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go with Jessica Evil Eye here on this one.

1074
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go with the underdog. I think she's she's

1075
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 12: much bigger. She's much bigger. She grappling and take down,

1076
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 12: so I think control the fight. Some of her recent

1077
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 12: losses were by decision to the likes of Sarah McMahon,

1078
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 12: Juliana Pana, and Misia Tate. So I think her going

1079
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 12: at one hundred and twenty five pounds to fight Rose Clark,

1080
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 12: who will be coming up from the one hundred and

1081
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 12: fifteen pounds. Che will evil, I will use Kate downs

1082
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 12: and grappling to grind out a decision over Jessica Rose Clark.

1083
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 6: All right, So Josh sees some value there on Jessica I.

1084
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 6: So the same January card it was in Saint Louis,

1085
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: Clark beat Paige van Zant, and then Jessica I returned

1086
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 6: back to Flyway outpointed Kalendra Fardia, so she snapped her

1087
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 6: four fight losing streak. Seven of U's eight UFC fights

1088
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 6: have gone the distance, including the last five.

1089
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: Ken Flow You going Clark or I coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 7: I think I's tough. I just don't think she's the

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00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 7: better grappler here though I like j R.

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00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: C in this one.

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00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 7: I think she's the better grappler. I think I probably

1094
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 7: hits a little harder on the feet. But yeah, I've

1095
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 7: been impressed with Jessica Rose Clark. I think I like

1096
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 7: this fight for her here all right?

1097
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: How about this story on Jessica rowe Is Clark ken

1098
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 6: Flaw and I hope I have this right. So she's

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00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 6: a client of our friend Danny Rube Danny Rubinstein Ruby

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Speaker 6: Sports and Entertainment.

1101
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 5: So there was a challenge thrown down.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it originated with Danny, but basically,

1103
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 6: if one of his clients got the Ruby SI logo

1104
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 6: tattooed on their body, they would get a one percent

1105
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 6: cut on his commission for life.

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00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 5: Right, So Jessica Rose Clark has the Ruby SI logo

1107
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 5: tattooed on her upper left arm, and she gets a

1108
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 5: one percent commission break for the rest of her career

1109
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: from her managers. So, I mean that's a lot of

1110
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 5: Danny Rube man, the good jew that he is. I

1111
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: wonder if got a tattoo, Maybe he's got some ink.

1112
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

1113
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 6: I know our people I think look down upon that.

1114
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: Maybe you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery if

1115
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 6: you got a tattoo?

1116
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: Is he religious? Is he very religious?

1117
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1118
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: I think he's a better Judaism source than I am,

1119
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 6: probably at this stage of our lives. And I say

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00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 6: that respectful. But all right, So Comaine event. Big fight

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00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 6: here at light heavyweight Tyson Pedro three and one of

1122
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 6: the UFC. He's seven to one overall favored here at

1123
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 6: a minus one fifty five clip to beat the far

1124
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 6: more UFC test at Open Saint Prue. He comes back

1125
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 6: at plus one twenty five at least here on Monday,

1126
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: a fight week.

1127
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: Josh, what do we think here?

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00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 6: OSP is the dog or you're going with the Ozzi

1129
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 6: Tyson Pedro.

1130
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 12: I think he has a very tough decision, but I'm

1131
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 12: gonna go with the Ozzi Tyson Pedro. Like we've seen

1132
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 12: Whittager the other week, those Ozzie boys can bang. I

1133
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 12: think this is going to be a very close fight.

1134
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 12: I'm very excited to watch it. Pedro is nine years

1135
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 12: younger and very solid, submissions all finishes in his seven wins,

1136
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 12: and they're both coming off losses to il Latifi right.

1137
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 12: Pedro lost by division and Osp was submitted. I just

1138
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 12: think Pedro will be the same size and height as

1139
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 12: osp Here and we'll come away with a submission victory.

1140
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: All right, Tyson Pedro by submission for josh Ken Flow.

1141
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 5: I got this one wrong.

1142
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 6: I thought it would be a pick him or Ovin

1143
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 6: Saint Prux would be the slight favorite. Instead, osp is

1144
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 6: the dog. Here your thoughts on this comin event coming

1145
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 6: up in Singapore.

1146
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 7: This is a close fight for me. Yeah, obviously, Tyson

1147
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 7: Pedro far younger. You know, it's tough. Ovin Saint pru

1148
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 7: very inconsistent lately. You know, I do think he's the

1149
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 7: better striker. He's unorthodox, not as clean with his technique

1150
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 7: as Pedro, but I think he's He's a little bit

1151
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 7: more effective, a little bit more dangerous, and I do

1152
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 7: think Pedro is the cleaner guy when it comes to

1153
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 7: the to the ground stuff.

1154
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 3: So this one's tough.

1155
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 7: But you know what, when it's close and old Flow

1156
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 7: needs points, I gotta go with the underdog here.

1157
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm going with osp Yeah.

1158
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 6: In our scoring system, given the standing, is no brainer

1159
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 6: for you. He goes Pedro, you gotta go Saint Prux,

1160
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 6: all right. Main event, So Leon Edwards making his tenth

1161
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 6: UFC appearance, and of course Curtisy of a five fight

1162
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 6: winning streak. He gets his first main event here and

1163
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 6: he is the minus two ten favorite over Donald Cowboys

1164
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: serone third straight UFC fight night headlining spot for Cowboy.

1165
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 6: He is the plus one seventy underdog Saroni's sixth UFC

1166
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 6: main event Overall, Josh, this is the main event, will

1167
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 6: need a round in a method of victory. If you

1168
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 6: would be so calm, we going Seroni or Edwards in

1169
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 6: the main event.

1170
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 12: Although I don't agree with the odds being as wide

1171
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 12: as they are, I'm gonna have to go with the

1172
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 12: favorite Leon Rocky Edwards. I am predicting a third round

1173
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 12: by him. Cowboy normally in the past has kind of

1174
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 12: beat these middle middleiing guys, but I think his age

1175
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 12: is getting up there, and he seems to really like

1176
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 12: going to these overseas fights and he doesn't always produce

1177
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 12: the best result. I think Edwards, on his five feet

1178
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 12: fight win streak, will be the younger and hungary a

1179
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 12: fighter and will get the third round.

1180
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 6: Knockout third round TKO for Leon. I like how Josh

1181
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 6: doesn't bury the lead either, right, he gives you your

1182
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 6: result right off the top of the analysis. On the

1183
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 6: back end, Ken Flow has been in TV too long.

1184
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 6: He's always teasing that pick can flow, Leon Edwards, Donald Seroni.

1185
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 6: The question is will you be awake at five am

1186
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 6: Pacific for this main car? Are we watching on a delay?

1187
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 6: And ultimately how do you see the headliner going down?

1188
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, I will be I will be asleep.

1189
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, so listen, this is an interesting fight, and I

1190
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 7: think mister Haynes has an interesting hangar. Sorry, has a

1191
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 7: very interesting perspective here.

1192
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: I did not mean to say that, by the way.

1193
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Serroni's taken a lot of these fights overseas.

1194
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 7: I don't think that's a good idea. He's going against

1195
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 7: a very tough fighter in Leon Edwards. Edwards is we

1196
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 7: have another southpaw who can counterstrike and he's effective moving

1197
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 7: forward as well. I think that's the approach he needs

1198
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 7: to take here against Roni. If he does that, I

1199
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 7: see Edwards getting the win pretty early in the fight,

1200
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 7: either in the.

1201
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: First or the second round.

1202
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 7: Why do I say early, Not because I don't disrespect

1203
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 7: the skills of Seroni. Serni is an absolute beast, of course,

1204
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 7: but he does get off to a slow start, and

1205
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 7: I think if Edwards can get off to a quick start,

1206
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 7: I see him getting the win pretty quickly. Let's go

1207
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 7: with Leon Edwards. Round one by Ko.

1208
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: Round one knockout for Leon Edwards is the pick to click.

1209
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 5: Can flow all right?

1210
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 6: Josh Hayner, Kansas City's finest good stuff today, Bud, So,

1211
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 6: when when's your next jiu jitsu class?

1212
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 12: Uh jiu jitsu class tonight at seven o'clock war Is

1213
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 12: Academy Downtown Kansas City. Great place trained under coach boy Hi,

1214
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 12: under Leo Pkanye, So great time. Whenever you guys are

1215
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 12: around Kansas City, pop in awesome man.

1216
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 6: And when you're in the Santa Monica, Southern California area,

1217
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 6: May Rocky BJJ, you tell them you've been on the

1218
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 6: Anicemploying podcast. If that doesn't get your goddamn free class show,

1219
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 6: absolutely free.

1220
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 12: Class sounds good, I'll get it calendar for sure.

1221
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: Thank you, Josh, Appreciate you, Thank you both.

1222
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 12: You are the best in the game.

1223
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Thank you, Thank you man.

1224
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 6: Josh Hayner with us today making picks on the main

1225
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 6: event challenge. I'm wearing my May Rocky BJJ T shirt

1226
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 6: it says want versus need, which is very important.

1227
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 5: My daughter's like, what is that? What do you think

1228
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 5: it means?

1229
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 11: Tony?

1230
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 5: Do you need that toyty fucking want it?

1231
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 6: And then the other side says mind over matter, which

1232
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 6: is like my mother's thesis statement.

1233
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 5: So larous.

1234
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 6: I mean, just wait till you start talking shit about

1235
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 6: your own children. It's amazing, right like, and then soon

1236
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 6: finally you start talking about your own kids, and then

1237
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 6: they get old enough and you can text them talking

1238
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 6: shit about your wife to your kids, right and it's

1239
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 6: a cycle. It's just amazing, and I'm excited to experience

1240
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 6: all of it. All right, that is it for today,

1241
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 6: May Rocky be jj Are you going straight to the

1242
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 6: gym right now?

1243
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: What do we do?

1244
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: Go home and see your daughter? What do we do?

1245
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: We kid? No, I got a busy schedule today. I

1246
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: got I got some stuff I gotta do today.

1247
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 7: I'm going to the gym, gonna go teach the afternoon class,

1248
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 7: and I gotta go shoot something for the MMA Awards.

1249
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: Uh with with with Jeremy Piven. No big deal, no

1250
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: big deal.

1251
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, So yeah, I'm excited, man, busy day to day

1252
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 7: and uh yeah, after that, it's pretty easy week I'll

1253
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 7: just be teaching over at Moroki.

1254
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, good times man.

1255
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 5: And you're gonna get pivot on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1256
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 5: That would be nice, Sally today, that would let's make

1257
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 5: that happen. Also quickly, want to dedicate today's show to

1258
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: the memory of famed cutman Leon Tabbs, passed away at

1259
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 5: the age of eighty six. You know, I knew him

1260
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 5: primarily as Bernard Hopkins's cutman for years, and it wasn't

1261
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 5: until his death this weekend that I found out he

1262
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 5: was the original and the only cut man at UFC.

1263
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 5: One went on, of course, to work for the UFC

1264
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: for nineteen years thereafter.

1265
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: Did he ever work your corner, Kenny, that you recall

1266
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 3: he might have?

1267
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 7: I remember seeing Leon Tabs in the locker rooms all

1268
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 7: the time, a true gentleman, a guy who is really

1269
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 7: legendary in the sport in combat sports, both boxing and

1270
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 7: mixed martial arts. And yeah, I was really sad, sad

1271
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 7: to hear that news.

1272
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1273
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 6: Well, back in twenty thirteen, I was there at the

1274
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 6: World MMA Awards when they honored him for his outstanding

1275
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 6: contribution to MMA, and you got to think the UFC

1276
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 6: Hall of fame is going to come calling as well.

1277
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 6: Dana White, one of ever old men to go out

1278
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 6: of their way to acknowledge the passing of Leon Tabbs

1279
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 6: over the weekend, and of course he leaves a tremendous

1280
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 6: legacy made. Leon Tabs rest in peace. All right, thank

1281
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 6: you for listening today. Thank you to our guest Tyler

1282
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 6: Minton Ray long ago. This show has been produced by

1283
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 6: John Hill, Jeff Williams and Alyssa Green so Ken Flow.

1284
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 6: We're off next week, so the next time we speak,

1285
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 6: I mean, my wife is four centimeters right now on Monday,

1286
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 6: so they're telling us hopefully within the next three or

1287
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 6: four days. So next time we speak, father of three,

1288
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 6: I mean, holy piss, what have we done?

1289
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 7: Like like Keith Florian says, my brother says, he goes one,

1290
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 7: One's totally doable.

1291
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: It's great, easy, no big deal.

1292
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 7: Two, two's tough, two is tough. Three, three's insane. So

1293
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 7: I wish you luck. You know, if you need any

1294
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 7: consultations or whatever, you can call my brother Keith. But

1295
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 7: you're the man, and I know Chrissy is an amazing woman.

1296
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 7: You guys are gonna be, you know, amazing parents of

1297
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 7: three you'll have your hands.

1298
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: Full, man. But uh yeah, amazing, amazing.

1299
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 5: I appreciate your your well wishes.

1300
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 6: If my wife can write, could write a thank you

1301
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 6: note like Clark, we'd really be in business.

1302
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 5: It's thank you, all right. That's it for us.

1303
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 6: We might have a show next week, but in all likelihood,

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