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Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour NBA News. This's you, Chris Haynes. It's time,

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Speaker 1: work's time. It's so time. This League Uncut is underway

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Speaker 1: ten on five.

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Speaker 2: This should be a good one.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everyone, welcome in to a brand new edition of

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Speaker 3: This League Uncut.

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Speaker 4: Mark Steign here with Chris Haynes.

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Speaker 3: We are taping at lunchtime on the East Coast on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Chris Haynes in Atlanta. I'm in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: We've got Chris in a much more optimized Wi Fi

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Speaker 3: situation now. So the many, many, many issues that we

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Speaker 3: had in the last two episodes, including the near arrest

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Speaker 3: of the.

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Speaker 4: Star of our show.

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Speaker 3: And obviously I'm saying that facetiously, but there was a

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Speaker 3: flicker of concern during our last episode when Chris Haynes

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Speaker 3: was the only person on the campus of Clark University

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Speaker 3: besides curious security guards stalking him and wondering why he

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Speaker 3: was doing his pod on an empty campus. But we

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Speaker 3: don't have to deal with any of that today, thankfully,

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Speaker 3: because it is the morning slash afternoon. After Chris Haynes

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Speaker 3: was part of a Western Conference alt cast, I got

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Speaker 3: to confess to my podcast partner here, I did not

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Speaker 3: watch any of it.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: I saw that you as one of the co hosts

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Speaker 3: of this alt cast, you were also in charge of

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Speaker 3: lining up the guests, and you had Damian Lillard and

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Speaker 3: Bobby Portis from the Milwaukee Bucks on, but I did

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Speaker 3: not get to see any of it. So tell us,

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Speaker 3: how was it, man, how was the alt Cast?

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Speaker 2: It's cool, you know, it's a.

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Speaker 5: Know, you're trying to strike the right balance between you know,

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Speaker 5: podcast format and giving commentary. For the record, I had

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Speaker 5: nothing nothing to do with Bobby Porters being the guest.

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Speaker 5: He was actually in Atlanta, so he was doing the

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Speaker 5: car wash at turn so he he showed up, did

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Speaker 5: our shown bonus guest.

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Speaker 2: That was a definitely bonus guest.

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Speaker 5: He stayed on for quite a while, probably most of

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Speaker 5: the first half, and then Dame came on the third quarter.

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Speaker 5: Dame stayed with us the entire third quarter, so that

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Speaker 5: was cool. Got to catch up on what he's doing,

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Speaker 5: how he's preparing for next season.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was he was really good. He was

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Speaker 2: good in candidate.

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Speaker 5: You know, he said, you know, around this time of year,

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Speaker 5: he becomes a hater because he usually roots for the

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Speaker 5: team that won the championship last year. So new players

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Speaker 5: can't win the finals because he doesn't He doesn't want

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Speaker 5: a new player, you know him, to the to get

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Speaker 5: the titles. So he said, so this one is tough

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Speaker 5: because there's going to be a new champion, but that

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Speaker 5: it's cool. He gave it update on his achilles injury,

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Speaker 5: where he's at the struggles.

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Speaker 3: Is he glad he played in that game six because

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Speaker 3: like I told you, man, I was. I was scared

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Speaker 3: for him when he came back trying to save Milwaukee season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, he felt he had to do it and

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Speaker 5: he believed that Giannis would have came back for game

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Speaker 5: seven had they won Game six. So now he didn't

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Speaker 5: he doesn't have any regrets and he didn't. He didn't

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Speaker 5: hurt it any further. So that was good news. But

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Speaker 5: he's still in the physical therapy stage of his rehab

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Speaker 5: and he hopes to be back being able to get

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Speaker 2: But no, it was cool. Stein's cool.

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Speaker 5: Like again, to each to each his own, to each

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Speaker 5: his or her own, I should say, you got the

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Speaker 5: traditional broadcast on TNT, and then you have an out

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Speaker 5: cast on True TV every game during the Western Conference Finals. Again,

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Speaker 5: we have fun. We got some you know, have some

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Speaker 5: good feedback. We have people that loved it that were

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Speaker 5: tweeting out us, emailing us. We have people that hate it,

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Speaker 5: you know. So it's it's a balance you're trying to

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Speaker 5: strike as far as like how much commentary, how much

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Speaker 5: play by play are you giving? We're not doing play

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if there is a balance, but

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Speaker 5: we definitely have fun.

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Speaker 3: Well for you though, I mean, you're in Atlanta in

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Speaker 3: a beautiful studio. You get to hang out for three

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Speaker 3: hours with Vince Carter. That can't be bad. That was cool,

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Speaker 3: So it's a good deal for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was cool.

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Speaker 5: Vince Carter is here, e Donna's Haslom's here, We're all

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Speaker 5: standing at the same hotel. Ug is here, and you

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Speaker 5: know Brendan Haywood, that's my guy. You know, you you

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Speaker 5: have Brendan Haywood in Dallas. I had Brendan Haywood in

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Speaker 5: So we were connecting, you know, in between times when

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Speaker 5: cool to stay planet for I'm gonna be here. I

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Speaker 5: could be here if this goes Game seven, I can

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Speaker 5: be here all the way up until June third. I

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Speaker 5: don't think this is going to be a sweep at

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Speaker 3: A lot of Bucks doing TV right now, which is strange.

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Speaker 3: I saw Malik be your guy, Malik Beasley on the

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Speaker 3: fan Duel Show today, Bobby and Dame doing your show,

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Speaker 3: and then maybe the best news for Bucks fans this morning,

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Speaker 3: out of the blue, Yiannis Antetokounmpo tweeting quote, I promise

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Speaker 3: you we will get back to where we belong, and

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Speaker 3: they're going to give us our damn flowers.

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Speaker 4: The tweet started with Milwaukee, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So I think Bucks fans were probably a little nervous

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Speaker 3: but I know it's Gianni's coming out here to proclaim

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Speaker 3: best thing you could read or hear if you're a

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Speaker 3: promise you we will get back to where we belong.

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Speaker 3: So even though I failed you and I did not

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Speaker 3: watch the alt cast, I'm guessing you got a similar

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Speaker 3: vibe from mister Lillard last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, they're excited and you're honest, and Dame, they will

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Speaker 5: get together at some point this offseason, will get to get.

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Speaker 2: The training together. So you know they're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: But as far as you talk about the Bucks media

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Speaker 5: tour that they're going on, start it, it's not going

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Speaker 2: I'm expected to have Doc Rivers come on.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So Bucks Bucks media tour is ongoing.

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Speaker 3: Can we get any of these Bucks exluminaries on this show?

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Speaker 3: Three of those four people have all wait, did Doc

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Speaker 4: No, docted my doc.

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Speaker 3: Doc did my radio show in Dallas. But obviously we've

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Speaker 3: Malik Beasley on.

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Speaker 4: Of course he was the first guest in show history.

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Speaker 2: We have Bobby Porters too.

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Speaker 4: We had Bobby that's right. Yeah, Yeah, we've had we

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Speaker 4: have a doctor.

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Speaker 2: We have not listen, we have hold on you had Doc.

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Speaker 2: You chose to have Doc on your show? That was

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Speaker 3: Because Doc Rivers was in Dallas and I just got

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Speaker 5: Let's so you get to be forgetting some Bucks players

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Speaker 5: on and we've we've actually already had all the Bucks

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Speaker 4: I'm why are you moving to Milwaukee? Just let's end

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Speaker 4: the charade.

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Speaker 2: And just.

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Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, how many Bucks games did you go

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Speaker 4: And how many Kings games did you go to?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure if we counted it up, I think the

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Speaker 3: Bucks win the rest.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy consider I live in second middle.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of races, did I really see footage of

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Speaker 3: you recreating Kenny Smith one of a con sprint to

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Speaker 4: What was that all about?

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Speaker 5: Don? I am impressed? So hold on stime again. The

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Speaker 5: only way you saw that, well, not take that back,

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Speaker 5: I forgot it was posted a Facebook. Anytime I post

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Speaker 4: There's only two way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only two ways that this information can reach

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Speaker 3: me because I barely know how to operate Instagram. Either

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Speaker 3: My son does tell me, hey, did you see what

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Speaker 3: an avid follower of your social media activity. But yes,

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Speaker 3: there's also a chance that I can see it on

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Speaker 2: Old.

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Speaker 5: The fact that you're still getting your content, your entertainment

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Speaker 4: I really don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't like. I don't like. I really don't like

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Speaker 3: But there's a you know, like I said, once in

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Speaker 3: I really believe me. Twitter is enough man, That's like

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Speaker 3: it's enough. And that's why like TikTok, don't even know.

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Speaker 4: How to open that.

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Speaker 3: I continue to be urged that I need to start

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Speaker 3: tiktoking if that is the right vernacular.

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Speaker 2: Me too. I'll hold off still, but yes, I hear

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Speaker 3: Substack, man, substack is the only that that's where I

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Speaker 3: need to be. That's where my food, my attention stays.

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Speaker 5: Fuss, that's who pays the bills as of right now, substack.

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Speaker 2: But no, yeah, I did recreate that.

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Speaker 5: Kenny Smith uh falling on the steps as he's going

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Speaker 5: to the board. Our our all studio, our all cast studio,

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Speaker 5: same studio. It's the inside, the inside, the NBA crew.

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Speaker 5: It's just that we're turned the opposite way. So I

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Speaker 5: was just having some fun at kiddies' spence, That's all

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Speaker 5: I said to the kid, and he laughed. He said,

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Speaker 5: you ran into the camera trying to play it all.

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Speaker 5: I gotta look at what he talking about. I guess

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Speaker 5: he think I really failed. But yeah, I was just

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Speaker 5: having for so it was cool. I'm enjoying myself.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's talk about the game last night

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Speaker 3: that you were covering, because that was quite a spicy start.

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Speaker 3: I would say to this first round series, where you know,

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Speaker 3: the Wolves are widely regarded, I think, as the favorite,

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Speaker 3: and look, you can certainly make the argument that they

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Speaker 3: deserve that. When you go to Denver and win three

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Speaker 3: game by forty plus points.

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Speaker 4: You deserve to be the favorites.

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Speaker 3: But Dallas, they went in to Minnesota last night and

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Speaker 3: not there. It is the sixth playoff series of the

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Speaker 3: Jason kidd As coach air in Dallas, first time out

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Speaker 3: of those six that Dallas wins game one, and Dallas

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Speaker 5: I feel like Luca and Kyrie have to be on

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Speaker 4: In season, trades do not typically lead to championships.

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Speaker 3: Washington had never played in a playoff game before this spring.

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Speaker 3: And you know, that's the best that Luca has looked physically.

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Speaker 4: But even saying that, even when.

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Speaker 3: I just keep saying it. I've been around this franchise

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Speaker 3: And look at it's one game. Not making any declarations.

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Speaker 5: MAVs t. Wolves game. Man, I'm pretty sure we'll get

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Speaker 3: Those were far more egregious to me. And look, Rick

441
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: Carlisle did come out and take the blame, like you said,

442
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: and Rick is great at that. He's always done it

443
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: in a flamboyant manner. Did it in Dallas a zillion times,

444
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: and I think players do appreciate that. But the Celtics

445
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 3: were rusty. The Celtics finished off Cleveland faster in round two,

446
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: and so that was the Celtics first game after a

447
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: rust stretch. And just again, I think they're going to

448
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: be a lot sharper in this game too, and they're

449
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Speaker 3: probably going to be getting Chris tops Porzingis back in

450
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: game four or the game five range. So again, we'll

451
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Speaker 3: see if I end up looking stupid tomorrow or later tonight.

452
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: But I do fear that the Pacers potentially squandered a

453
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Speaker 3: chance that they will root forever that they gave that

454
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Speaker 3: game one away because it just should have never happened.

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Speaker 5: What the Pacers have in their favor is that look

456
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Speaker 5: at last series.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost the first two games to.

458
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Speaker 5: New York in New York one, the next two Indiana

459
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 5: lost in New York again down three to two, and

460
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 5: they won the last two that series. So you know,

461
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 5: if you're in that locker room, that's what you're pointing to,

462
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: the fact that we can do this, We can dig

463
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Speaker 5: ourselves out of a hole. The problem is typically as

464
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Speaker 5: you get closer and closer to the finals, as you

465
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 5: continue to advance, those paths become harder. So while you

466
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 5: might have been able to do that before, again the

467
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: Boston Celtics, this is the team has been dominating the

468
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 5: whole season, so it gets harder. But not to say

469
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Speaker 5: that they can't do it, because in Game one it

470
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: definitely showed you that they can't play with the self.

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Speaker 3: One other Celtics note before we get to the coaching carousel,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown did not make the All NBA team that

473
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Speaker 3: was announced on Wednesday. Only four players from the East

474
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 3: did make All NBA, and yes, this bothers me and look,

475
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Speaker 3: I am a Tyrese Haliburton fan, and he had a.

476
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Speaker 4: Lot of money on the line.

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Speaker 3: By making All NBA Tyrese Haliburton, the value of his

478
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: contract extension signed last summer rose by forty one million.

479
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Speaker 4: But I don't know to me, the Celtics.

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00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: If any team deserved two players on the All NBA team,

481
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: it was the Celtics. Jason Tatum, to me, was not

482
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Speaker 3: a top five MVP candidate. Understood why Joe Missoula did

483
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 3: not win Coach of the Year. But I do think

484
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Speaker 3: the Celtics, because of their regular season, they deserved two

485
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: of the fifteen guys on the All NBA team. And

486
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Speaker 3: it didn't happen for Jalen Brown. And again, huge deal

487
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: for Halliburton because let's face it, he came back probably

488
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Speaker 3: faster than he normally would have to get to the

489
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Speaker 3: sixty five games he needed to be eligible for the

490
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Speaker 3: All NBA team, and in the end it happens Haliburton

491
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: gets enough votes to make All NBA, which is for

492
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: both he and Anthony Edwards an extra forty one million

493
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: added to the contract extensions that those guys signed in July.

494
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: But I can say to you, I didn't love that

495
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: the Celtics only had one player on the All NBA team.

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Speaker 3: I thought, Jalen Brown, whether it's you know, obviously, if

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Speaker 3: you say that, you got to take someone off. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's Halliburton, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: that's the bonus.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's Lebron. I don't know who

501
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Speaker 4: you bump exactly.

502
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Speaker 3: But to me, Jalen Brown deserved a third team spot

503
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: because the Celtics, to me, should have had two players

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Speaker 3: in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 5: I agree with Jones j Lebrown, definitely. I want to

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Speaker 5: ask you about something else. Then, since you have a

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Speaker 5: problem with that, let's go to first team All Defensive team.

508
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Speaker 5: You have a problem with four bigs, be a name

509
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: to first Team All d You can just pick. You

510
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 5: don't have to go by position.

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Speaker 3: Now I have to say, I haven't studied that. When

512
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: it's close, but you can meet in the middle. Maybe

513
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: make it positionalless. But do it like the All Star Game.

514
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Speaker 3: Let's have two in the back court, three in the

515
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Speaker 3: front court.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't want.

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Speaker 3: Four bigs on First Team All Defense. I wanted to

518
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 3: have some semblance of a basketball team. So again, it

519
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: doesn't need to be two guards, two forwards in a center.

520
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: But let's again, let's do it like the All Star ballot.

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Speaker 3: Two in the back court, three in the front court.

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Speaker 3: Let's make it look somewhat like a basketball team. I mean, really,

523
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Speaker 3: when you look at the All NBA voting, it seems

524
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Speaker 3: like we ended up getting mostly positions adhered to.

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Speaker 4: Even though the All NBA balloting was supposed to be

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Speaker 4: completely positionless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, then the second team all day was primarily

529
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Speaker 5: all guards. It was Alice Caruso, Drew Holliday, Jadah Sutz,

530
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Speaker 5: Derrek White, Jada McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: Depends on what you want to consider him.

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Speaker 4: I do not like No, I do not a four

533
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: big first team. No, I don't. I don't want that.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm just curious as you're.

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Speaker 5: You're an NBA basketball storian, so you've grown a custom

536
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: to seeing things conducted in a certain manner.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to get your feedback on that. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for that.

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Speaker 3: Before we go, let's talk about the coaching care because

540
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 3: this morning, before you and I got together to record this,

541
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Cavaliers made it official and fired JB. Bickerstaff

542
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: and probably should have known this was coming because word

543
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: circulated Wednesday that Kobe Altman, the Calves president of basketball Operations,

544
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: would be doing media Friday. And so now before Kobe

545
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: Altman speaks to the media Friday, JB. Bickerstaff is officially

546
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: out of the job. James Brego and Kenny Atkinson those

547
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: are names already circulating as potential successors in Cleveland.

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00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't think this was a surprise in any way.

549
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: The reality is JB.

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00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: Bickerstaff won a lot of games here over the past

551
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: two seasons, but he has been under pressure, fair or

552
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: not since last season and the way it ended when

553
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: the Calves seated higher than the Knicks, went out very

554
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 3: meekly in five games the first round to New York.

555
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: There were lots of ups and downs this season. There

556
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: was a near firing in November. Then the Calves went

557
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: on a huge tear in mid December for a month

558
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: after losing both Evan Mobley and Darius Garland to injury.

559
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 4: But the second half was rough.

560
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: They were taken to seven games by Orlando and went

561
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: down eighteen in Game seven at home. They easily could

562
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: have lost the Orlando series. So I think around the

563
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: league in coaching circles. This was expected because the Calves,

564
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Speaker 3: as we know, they are trying to get a commitment

565
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: from Donovan Mitchell on a contract extension. They are desperate

566
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: to get that commitment and the signals lately you.

567
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: Hear all this chatter.

568
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: The Calves are optimistic behind the scenes about getting Donovan

569
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Speaker 3: Mitchell's name on a contract extension. You know, but that's

570
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: all just talk until it actually happens. It can't happen

571
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: until July. But it's a massive, massive moment for the Cavaliers,

572
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: a team you know well having lived in Cleveland and

573
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 3: covered them from close range. They've got to get this

574
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: contract extension done with Donovan Mitchell. They have to make

575
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: it happen, and clearly they believe that this coaching change

576
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: is going to help secure that commitment from Donovan Mitchell.

577
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: If they don't get Donovan Mitchell signed to a contract

578
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: extension in the offseason, they're going to have to explore

579
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Speaker 3: trades for him. They can't dare going next season with

580
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Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell basically possessing a player option to become a

581
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Speaker 3: free agent at the end of the twenty twenty four

582
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Speaker 3: to twenty five season. They can't risk Donovan Mitchell getting

583
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: all the way to free agency, not after how much

584
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: they gave up to get him in the first place.

585
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Speaker 4: So we'll see if this move.

586
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Speaker 3: Is going to help them in their quest to resign

587
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell because just on terms of the job he did,

588
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people will look at this

589
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: and say that Jabi Bickerstaff got a raw deal.

590
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Speaker 2: You can definitely make that argument.

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Speaker 5: I think it was a clear that there was a

592
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: conflict between head coach and management that lingered on for

593
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: a while, because there were points during the regular season

594
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Speaker 5: where we were hearing.

595
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: That coach could be let go during the season.

596
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Speaker 5: So I'm surprised he made it this far with all

597
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: the rumblings that we were hearing. Not to say that

598
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm surprised that they didn't do it earlier because he

599
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: didn't do a good job. It's just based off of

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Speaker 5: noise that I was taken in from Cleveland. He made

601
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Speaker 5: it this far. I felt like he did a really

602
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: good job in Cleveland. He was a common force, a

603
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 5: stabilizer with that organization. Again, when you make a move

604
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 5: like this, I mean, coming off of the second round

605
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 5: exit is not bad for a team at the Cleveland Cavaliers.

606
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 5: But when you make a move like this, Okay, what's next,

607
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 5: where's that next marquee guy? That is just an outright upgrade.

608
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 5: You know you can make the case Kenny Akus maybe

609
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 5: probably anybody other than him will probably be a risk

610
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 5: at this point.

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Speaker 2: But again, they're.

612
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Speaker 5: Trying to do everything they can to put themselves in

613
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Speaker 5: a position to get out of Van Mitchell to commit

614
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 5: to a long term contract extension.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, we'll see what they have up

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Speaker 2: their sleeve.

617
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: And again, the pressure has been firmly on JB. Bickerstaff

618
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Speaker 3: since the end of last season, so he's been coping

619
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Speaker 3: with it for months now. To me, the pressure shifts

620
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Speaker 3: to the front office. They've got so much to figure

621
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Speaker 3: out in Cleveland this offseason. Again, Item A, you've got

622
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: to get the contract extension commitment from Donovan Mitchell, who's

623
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 3: I believe eligible for a four year deal.

624
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: That's just shy of two hundred and ten million.

625
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 3: All the recent signals have been that the Calves are

626
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: optimistic behind the scenes that that's going to happen. But

627
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: even if that is how it goes down, then you

628
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: instantly wonder, is Darius Garland going to be traded because

629
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: it just hasn't worked the Mitchell Garland pairing. And I

630
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: wrote this recently on my substack that the suitors are already.

631
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: Lining up for Jared Allen.

632
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: He is incredibly valued by numerous rival teams. The guy

633
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: is playing on an absolute bargain contract at twenty million

634
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: a year over five years, still has two years left

635
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 3: on that deal, and with the way Evan Mobley played

636
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: without Jared Allen in the playoffs, you would have to

637
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 3: think that if the Calves are fortunate enough to be

638
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: able to keep Donovan Mitchell, that they're going to prioritize

639
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: a contract extension for Evan Mobley, which could be a

640
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Max deal, And so the phone is going to ring.

641
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: For Jared Allen.

642
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: There is no doubt about that the Calves are going

643
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: to get trade feelers on Jared Allen, whether they're looking

644
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: to move him or not.

645
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: So this is just a massive summer.

646
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: In Cleveland, so much going on, and it's a team

647
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: that we're going to be talking about constantly. I think

648
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 3: for the next six to eight weeks. Okay, I think

649
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Speaker 3: we have covered all the bases on this edition of

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00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 3: this League uncut, but I'm always hesitant to say that,

651
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: just in case there's something that Chris Haynes wants to

652
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: add I do, are we you know I do?

653
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Speaker 2: It's funny you bring that up. Good time and great

654
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Speaker 2: time is done.

655
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Speaker 5: So again I go through great lamps to try to

656
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Speaker 5: make sure I can make our pod appearances. You know,

657
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Speaker 5: whether it's horrible Wi Fi, no Wi Fi, horrible hotspot

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Speaker 5: on my phone, whether I'm circling my daughter's school to

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Speaker 5: try to steal Wi Fi that.

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Speaker 2: Way to jump on the pod. I do what I can.

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Speaker 5: Stein, but Stein, after our last podcast, remember I was

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Speaker 5: at I was on Clark University campus. Did you see

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Speaker 5: the video the surveillance video that I sent you and

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Speaker 5: producer Ryan. I don't know if you saw it or not,

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Speaker 5: but I sent you a surveillance video of me walking

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Speaker 5: into a liquor store around the corner after the pod.

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Speaker 5: So just background everybody, after I finished the podcast and

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Speaker 5: had this God, everybody have to stay on the campus

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Speaker 5: for what about forty five minutes Sten because the video

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Speaker 5: has I mean, excuse me, the audio has.

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Speaker 2: To upload to the system.

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Speaker 5: So even though we finished the pod, the Wi Fi

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Speaker 5: worked for us to finish it. Now it has to

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Speaker 5: upload and my producer has to retrieve it, and so

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Speaker 5: I still have to stay in the area with Wi

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Speaker 5: Fi and you guys know, uploading, downloading, it just takes longer.

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Speaker 5: So I'm hanging around Clark Campus for another forty five minutes.

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Speaker 5: Stein graciously stayed on the line with me just to keep,

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Speaker 5: you know, keep me company. Because Stein, when he lead,

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Speaker 5: usually when he shows, when the show's over, he goes.

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Speaker 5: He does He's always had something to do, so he

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Speaker 5: stayed on. So forty five minutes goes by the video,

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Speaker 5: I mean, the audio gets uploaded, our producer gets it.

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Speaker 5: So now I have to walk back to my daughter's house. Well,

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Speaker 5: I'm thirsty, my mouth is dry, and so there is

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Speaker 5: a liquor door on the corner of my daughter's house,

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Speaker 5: and so I walk into this liquor store because I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna get me a sprite and I'm gonna get me

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Speaker 5: a water.

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Speaker 2: I walk into the liquor store and there are these

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Speaker 2: two it looked like teenagers. These two teenagers, they're getting

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Speaker 2: there right in front of this liquor store. They're getting

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Speaker 2: some water some soda out and they're like in my way,

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Speaker 2: So I, lightweight, have to like push them out out

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Speaker 2: of my way, and so I pushed them on my

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Speaker 2: way head towards the front of the store to go

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Speaker 2: get my water in my sprite. And then I noticed

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Speaker 2: that the clerk.

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Speaker 5: I asked him, do you take Apple pay on the phone,

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Speaker 5: and he's just ignoring me.

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Speaker 2: He's looking towards the door.

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Speaker 5: Well I found out why he was looking towards the

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Speaker 5: door because directly behind me is this big old TV

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Speaker 5: and he's rewinding and he's rewinding and it goes back

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Speaker 5: to those kids. So those so when I walk in,

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Speaker 5: the two kids jack a whole bunch of drinks, stuff

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Speaker 5: in their bags and take off and I'm seeing it

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Speaker 5: all on this surveillance.

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Speaker 2: But the thing about it is, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you've seen it.

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Speaker 5: The thing about it it looked like I was a

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Speaker 5: part of it, because as soon as I walk in

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Speaker 5: the store, it's like I shielded deal and they just

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Speaker 5: took off behind me.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this? And I was able to record this.

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Speaker 3: You know what you said it, and I couldn't when

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Speaker 3: you said it, I didn't really understand exactly what was happening.

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Speaker 3: So this play by play is helping, is helping it explaining.

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Speaker 2: I might release it. I'm I don't know if I should.

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Speaker 5: Release this, but everybody, I'm looking at it as right now,

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Speaker 5: I walk in as these two oh. One is probably sixteen,

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Speaker 5: the other maybe thirteen. For it could be sixteen two,

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Speaker 5: but he's shorter. But they're they're grabbing drinks. Because I'm

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Speaker 5: looking at it right now, they're grabbing drinks. Producer Tim,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna send it to you, Producer Tim, I might

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Speaker 5: need you to chime in, Producer Tim, on what you see?

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Speaker 5: Does it look like I was an accomplice in this situation?

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Speaker 5: I just sent you the video, producer Tim. As soon

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Speaker 5: as I walk into the store, they take off because

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Speaker 5: there's a narrow pathway in the store and they can

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Speaker 5: like kind of chield behind me and get off.

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Speaker 6: My question for you is, did did the clerk question you?

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Speaker 5: As?

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Speaker 4: He did not?

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Speaker 2: He did not? He did not that he did not,

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Speaker 2: And so he's he's going he's.

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Speaker 5: Looking at the surveillance footage and the big TV is

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Speaker 5: behind me, so I can see him rewinding.

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Speaker 2: He kept rewinding.

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Speaker 5: He kept rewinding, and so I'm recording it right while

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Speaker 5: he's doing that, and I'm like, wow, I didn't know

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Speaker 5: what I just walked into.

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Speaker 6: Those people were definitely waiting for someone to walk into

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Speaker 6: the store, and it just happened to be you. I

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Speaker 6: don't think it.

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Speaker 7: Was coincidence that as they left you walked in. They

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Speaker 7: were just waiting for somebody that had a dry mounth

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Speaker 7: that was recording a podcast at Clark University.

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Speaker 6: To get a drink.

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Speaker 4: Do you think we'll ever have a normal pod? Right?

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Speaker 3: And the show and Chris goes, Nope, nothing crazy happened

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Speaker 3: to me this week.

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Speaker 5: Look at this man. I mean, the kid has a gun.

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Speaker 5: It's a water gun, but it's a gun.

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Speaker 2: In his hand.

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Speaker 5: It's a water gun in his hand while he he

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Speaker 5: has a gatorade, he has a bottle of water, and

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Speaker 5: then he goes and takes Yeah, that's the way he took.

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Speaker 5: He took the gatorade and the bottle of water, and

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Speaker 5: the other kid, I can't tell what he took.

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Speaker 6: What are you listening to? Chris, by the way, what

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Speaker 6: kind of music are you listening to?

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Speaker 2: Here? That is a good question. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I'm listening.

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Speaker 6: It just looks like you're in the zone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm listening to some music, but I am completely

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Speaker 5: out of it. Guys, look at this look at what

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Speaker 5: the timing, the timing of it all. I had to

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Speaker 5: walk in right at that moment, I was questioning why

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Speaker 5: the store Clark wasn't questioning me because it looked mighty suspicious.

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Speaker 2: And then I got my do rag on and everything

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Speaker 2: I'm looking. I'm looking straight hood right there, I'm bleating

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Speaker 2: right in.

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Speaker 5: I got and meanwhile I got my daughter's graduation shirt

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Speaker 5: on doing off.

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Speaker 4: The things I do.

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Speaker 3: Star Like I said, someday we're gonna have a pod

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Speaker 3: where it just wrap it up.

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Speaker 4: Hey, put a bow on this episode. Anything going on,

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Speaker 4: anything else you want to add.

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Speaker 3: Chris, You'll be like, Nope, nothing happened, but that that

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Speaker 3: pod has not yet taken place.

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Speaker 2: Maybe one of these days, guys, So I'm still here.

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Speaker 3: I'm still here, And with that we will put a

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Speaker 3: bow on this edition of this League uncut. As always,

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Speaker 3: please remember follow us rate the show, review the show.

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Speaker 3: How can Chris haynes storytelling alone not merit a five

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Speaker 3: star review? The depth and breadth of tales that we

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Speaker 3: get from mister Haynes on a twice a week basis

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Speaker 3: that alone should be five star rating, even when he

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Speaker 3: forgets to unmute his mic chime in.

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Speaker 2: I'm releasing the video.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, everybody.

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Speaker 2: When we dropped this, everybody, they're going to want to

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Speaker 2: see Maybe, no question, I could put a blur. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I could put a blur on all the faces.

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Speaker 3: Anyone who listens to this show is now going to

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Speaker 3: want to see this video because you phiped it up

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 7: You could be the reason why why crime scene get solved.

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Speaker 6: Maybe someone will recognize them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I want to be that

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Speaker 5: guy to Maybe I'll blurt blur off the faces. We'll

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00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: see they're gonna want to see it. After after something,

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Speaker 5: I'll think about it. I'll think about it.

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Speaker 3: As if I don't have to worry twenty four to

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Speaker 3: seven about my two kids.

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Speaker 4: I got Chris Haynes contributing to my ulcer yet again.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, that really does it for this edition of

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Speaker 3: this League Uncut. Chris and I will be together again

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Speaker 3: very very soon as these conference finals continue. Many many

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Speaker 3: thanks to Minnesota Tim for pinch producing today. With producer

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Speaker 3: Ryan unavailable at this hour, we look forward to being

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Speaker 3: back with you very very soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks everyone for listening, Take care, and.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for us. See you next time.

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Speaker 4: This League, UNCUTA and iHeartRadio production Chris Haynes, Good Marks, Time,