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Speaker 1: So we're going to get into a little media news today.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have my friend Bobby Burreck with OutKick

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Speaker 1: on the show. He's been on before. He's a great writer,

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Speaker 1: a great columnist, always a great guest, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to cover right now. We're going to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the super Bowl. This will come out

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Speaker 1: try to bring you the news in a timely manner,

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Speaker 1: but here we are. So we're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: him about the Taylor Swift effect. She has increased NFL

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Speaker 1: Will she have the same effect on the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Beyond that? Will she have that effect on twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 1: You know, she recorded an Instagram video and then after that,

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Speaker 1: thirty five thousand people signed up to vote through vote

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Speaker 1: dot org during National voter Registration Day. So what impact

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Speaker 1: could that have on two thousand and twenty four. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna ask Bobby about that. Also, Joe Biden is skipping

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Speaker 1: the pre Super Bowl interview again this year, huge audience.

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Speaker 2: Is that a mistake?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Bobby's take on that. You know, we'll

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Speaker 1: also talk to him about this big tuger Carlos in

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Speaker 1: an interview with Vladimir Putin. Good idea, bad idea, I'll

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Speaker 1: ask him. We'll also get his take on what are

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Speaker 1: the big media stories that people are missing? So all

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Speaker 1: of that and more without kicks, Bobby Burrack, stay tuned. Well, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you back on the show. A

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Speaker 1: lot of media stuff to get to, so looking forward

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Speaker 1: to hearing what you have to say.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate you having me. It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: Always good to hear from you, and by congrats to you.

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Speaker 2: As seen you all over the TV the past year,

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Speaker 2: so always cool to see you succeed. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Bobby. It's actually funny because this will air after

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I'm co hosting the Big Show at

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Speaker 1: seven PM and ten PM. And my dad's response was,

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Speaker 2: So I'll give the viewers some inside baseball. Last Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl it was Chiefs and Eagles and you were flying

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Speaker 2: know if your signal went out, but you thought the

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Speaker 2: game was over and there was still a quarter to go.

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Speaker 2: So I had to catch you up to date because

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Speaker 2: you were in the air missing the big game.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate you doing that. Well, this time

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Speaker 1: so all have to update me again. Yeah all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: so let let's start with the Super Bowl. So before

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl interview. But before that, what's really crazy is

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Speaker 1: this Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey. The amount that she has

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Speaker 1: there is a whole seven percent increase from a year earlier.

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Speaker 1: You look at the I'm looking at it now, so

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Speaker 1: you look at the Chiefs Jets game got like twenty

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Speaker 1: by comparison, the twenty twenty two World Series had something

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Speaker 1: pretty wild the amount of viewership that Taylor Swift alone

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And so the NFL is the number one TV

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Speaker 2: what Taylor Swift has done, and then if you dig

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Speaker 2: these celebrity relationships usually have some performance art to them, right,

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Speaker 2: including all of Taylor Swift's previous relationships. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's definitely being put in our face.

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Speaker 2: So a Newsweek article did a survey on this and

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Speaker 2: they calculated that she could sway eighteen percent voters. Now

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Speaker 2: that seems like an awful lot to me. Eighteen percent

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Speaker 2: could absolutely change the election. Because it's not boomers that

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Speaker 1: Guess it was twenty twenty three, it was something like

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Speaker 2: I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do with that much power.

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Speaker 2: Well, Lisa, she's the I would argue, other than the

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Speaker 2: but the influence that she has behind social media is

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know, because is there

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's true, but I guess

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Speaker 2: when there's so many options, things are more and more

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Speaker 1: Well, and it might have been getting to her head

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to get into. Biden is now

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Speaker 1: Is it a mistake for him to skip it this year?

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Speaker 2: No, because he embarrasses himself. Every time he speaks, he

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Speaker 2: I think keeping him away is actually a good thing.

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Speaker 2: But speaking of that CNN story you reference, Biden's team

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Speaker 2: That is such a lie. They're trying to hide him

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Speaker 2: because that's what they did in twenty twenty. Right, the

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Speaker 2: only way he can win, unless you know, maybe censorship,

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Speaker 2: the president should go in front of the Super Bowl audience,

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Speaker 2: more people think he's deranged, in senile and not fit

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Twice this week he has said that he has

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Speaker 1: spoken to European leaders who are dead. He said he

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Speaker 2: is going on in Europe, given how invested we are,

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Speaker 2: Because I'll be honest when I hear reports from the

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Speaker 2: New York Times about what's going on or Zelensky, I

435
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: don't believe it. Why should we? These people have lied

436
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: to us for so long. We were told for a

437
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Speaker 2: long time that Russia was losing the war. I don't

438
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: know if that's true. So I think Tucker bringing to

439
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: light Putin is beneficial to all of us and shame

440
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: on the journalists for trying to shame him for doing

441
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: his job, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I guess EU lawmakers are now urging sanctions against him,

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Speaker 1: a travel band against him. I mean, do you think

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Speaker 1: they'll go through with that? And is that just to

445
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Speaker 1: kind of like silence people from having these kinds of

446
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Speaker 1: interviews in the future.

447
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Speaker 2: You know, four years ago I would have said that

448
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: that is ologous fear tactics. But stuff that we see now,

449
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: I don't put any thing past the people in charge,

450
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 2: because they do so many things that are unethical and

451
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: counterproductive to what the American people want. I wouldn't be

452
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: surprised at all. I mean, look, other than Donald Trump

453
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: and Elon Musk, is there a bigger target than Tucker Carlson,

454
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: the coverage of him, what they've tried to do to him,

455
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: the way they frame him. I would put nothing past them.

456
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: But it's so unfortunate because Vladimir Putin is one of

457
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 2: the most influential world leaders in the country, and we

458
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: should have access to what he says, correct him, hold

459
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: him accountable, and hear his side on stuff. And nobody's

460
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: doing that. So props to Tucker for at least trying

461
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: to do that.

462
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Speaker 1: I've got to take a quick commercial break more without kicks.

463
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Speaker 1: Bobby Burrick, what's the biggest media story that isn't getting

464
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Speaker 1: discussed as much as it should?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. There's a lot, but I

466
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Speaker 2: would say it is what's the entire foundation and financial

467
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: incentive to the trans movement? Right? The right is done

468
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: a bad job fighting back on this because they talk

469
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: about minor issues. They're like, well, men shouldn't compete against

470
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: women's sports, obviously, Then they talk about bud Light. Obviously

471
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: that was stupid, But that's minor stuff. What they don't

472
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: discuss enough is is that there are entire industries built

473
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Speaker 2: around gender affirming care. That's why when I write the

474
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Speaker 2: word trans now I make the yes a dollar symbol

475
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Speaker 2: because so many people are making money from it. And

476
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Speaker 2: I did some research in September. The Human Rights Campaign

477
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: is the most powerful gay rights lobbyist in Washington. They

478
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: gained influence in fortune by fighting for gay rights. Well,

479
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: once gay rights were legalized, they didn't just pack up

480
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: and celebrate. They had to pivot, so they pivoted to

481
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Speaker 2: this idea that the trans can unity is victimized and

482
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Speaker 2: that they need our support, and that its bled into

483
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Speaker 2: all fastests of culture. Now, I mean you have George

484
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: Soros investing a lot of money in the human rights campaign,

485
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Speaker 2: and the long term consequences of transgenderism, I think a

486
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Speaker 2: severe There's been some studies about what it does to

487
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Speaker 2: your body to have body parts chopped up in the

488
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Speaker 2: name of gender affirmation. It's a really dangerous phenomenon that

489
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Speaker 2: the medium doesn't cover a lot, and they're afraid to

490
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Speaker 2: cover it because there's so much sensitivity around that topic.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Because you know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about such a small portion of the population, so

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Speaker 1: why do they have so much control.

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Speaker 2: I talk a lot about the hierarchy of victimhood, right,

495
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: and that defines your level of success and what you

496
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Speaker 2: can get away from. The trans people sit firmly atop

497
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Speaker 2: the hierarchy of victim but right, like Christians for now

498
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: at least right. It used to be used to be

499
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Speaker 2: exactly right, like gay people used to be high, they

500
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Speaker 2: got pushed down. Women used to be high, they got

501
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Speaker 2: pushed out.

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Speaker 1: Should have tried to you know, really it was not

503
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Speaker 1: I was not a fan of the me too.

504
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Speaker 2: Uh, you missed your opportunity.

505
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Speaker 1: Now I'm now I'm at the bottom of the barrel.

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Speaker 1: It's just uh you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a straight white woman, you're right there with

508
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: white guys, so you have no help and nobody cares.

509
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Speaker 2: But it's about the trans community, and so they get

510
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: away with so much. I mean, they represent such a

511
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Speaker 2: small portion of the country. I think it's like, what

512
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Speaker 2: point nine percent, but we spend so much time hatering

513
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: to them, and then people have been fired for making

514
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: trans jokes, for making fun of people with their pronouns.

515
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Look right now it is their time. Unfortunately. I think

516
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: that's a really dangerous idea, but it is. And you

517
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: see every June, these big brands in corporate America spend

518
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: the entire month advocating to the trans community with like

519
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: these creepy, tough friendly swimwears. So yeah, people right now

520
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 2: do not want to offend that community, and we know it.

521
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: So I've written a lot about them. You wouldn't believe

522
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: all the media people that will call me or DM

523
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: me after I write about them, saying we so agree

524
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Speaker 2: with you. We think this entire movement is a farce,

525
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: But we're not allowed to say that publicly. Really, you're

526
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: in the media and you're not allowed to talk about

527
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: one of the biggest topic going How cowardly of that is,

528
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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 1: So? The New York Times did allow for an opinion

530
00:31:54,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: piece recently raising some of these concerns. Do you think

531
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Speaker 1: it told the story of a grace how twenty three

532
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: year old biological woman who is detransitioning from the sex

533
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Speaker 1: change that she had a few years ago.

534
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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? I mean, that does

536
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: seem like a positive step in terms of, you know,

537
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: mainstream media finally admitting that, you know, there's some real

538
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: dangers to allowing this to happen to young people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you bring that up. I just saw

540
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: today that there are staff for the New York Times

541
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: outrage at that piece was published. So they're now receiving

542
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: pushback for just telling the truth. But we do raise

543
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: an interesting conundrum because I don't think most people Lisa

544
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: agree with the idea that a man can just turned

545
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: into a woman or vice versa, like we saw with

546
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: bud Light. A lot of the country rejects it, but

547
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: they end up being the silent majority. Like so many

548
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: of these cultural issues, whether it be like Black Lives Matter, transgenderism,

549
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: it's only supported by this annoying ten percent vocal majority.

550
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: But the problem is is that they control the conversation, right,

551
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: and that is where it's important and incumbent upon other

552
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: people to not be so afraid of them, right, Like

553
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: just like DEI. I think a lot of Americans agree

554
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: DEI is not beneficial, but they're afraid to say it.

555
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: But I think the one comfort they can take in

556
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: all of this is you're not alone. Right. There's a

557
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: lot of normal people out there that don't want to

558
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: be judged by their sexual orientation, their gender, and their race,

559
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: but they're afraid to say so because that low ten

560
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: percent controls the message.

561
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Speaker 1: So before we go, my friend, and mind you, this

562
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Speaker 1: is airing on Monday. Yes, so you're going to be

563
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: held to account for your answer to this, right, So,

564
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: chiefs forty nine ers, who do you have?

565
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: Oh? I have the forty nine ers. And granted, keep

566
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: in mind here, I've gotten like the last five Super

567
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: Bowls wrong, so I'm bound to get one right. Right.

568
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 2: I get be you wrong every year? Like I think

569
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: at some point the ball has to bounce in my core.

570
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get rooting for you, Bobby.

571
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: You should be I'm gonna I'm gonna bore your listeners

572
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: a little bit here and get okay x's and o's.

573
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: So the Kansas City Chiefs, they're not the Chiefs of

574
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: old where they can score a lot of points. This

575
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: is a team that relies on ball control playing defense. Well,

576
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: this is the worst matchup because the forty nine Ers

577
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: have the best running back in the NFL, and he's

578
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: just gonna run the ball down the Chiefs throat. So

579
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna keep Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes

580
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: on the sideline, and I have the forty nine ers

581
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: winning pretty comfortably, maybe thirty twenty.

582
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Speaker 1: All right, well hashtag go sports.

583
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: And wait before you go, I have a question for you. So, yeah,

584
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: if you were in charge of halftime, and I've asked

585
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people, this would be performing this year.

586
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, not usher, oh man, all right, I put

587
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: you on the spot, but I put everybody on the spot,

588
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: so you're not alone. I know. I'm trying to think.

589
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: So I'm like kind of weird because I don't have

590
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of favorites, you know, like I like

591
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of different music, but I don't know if

592
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't have like a favorite artist of all time. Okay,

593
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to think. I don't know who I

594
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: would put, yeah, because it would have to be someone who,

595
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: like it can't just be a singer, right, like you

596
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: need like a performer. Yeah, yeah, So it can't just

597
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: be it can't just be someone with like a great voice.

598
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: It has to be someone who can thoroughly entertain an audience.

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00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so I think the big takeaway here is

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00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Lisa Boube pretty charger.

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00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Although she's like crazy now, so she might like bring

602
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: out knives and but then that could be interesting. That's

603
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: a per comments, right.

604
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: And it's all about TV viewerships and interests. So I

605
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: would say that's a pretty good one, right. Other than

606
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: Kanye West, I don't know who would be more of

607
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: a loose can than Britney Spears.

608
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I like it, although I have to admit that I

609
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: really got that one wrong because I was like all

610
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: about free Brittany, and now I'm like, maybe she shouldn't

611
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: be free after saying, you know, some of the videos

612
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: that she posts to Instagram. So yeah, I kind of

613
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: I botched that one.

614
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: Well hey that I mean, I've gotten the last five

615
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 2: Super Bowl wrong, so you can get Free Britney wrong

616
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: or even.

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00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you can't. The part of it was they

618
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: were making her work and so it's like, if she's

619
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: as bad as they were saying, why are you monopoly?

620
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, why why are you trying to make money

621
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: off of her? Right? So yeah, I don't you know,

622
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. The whole thing was uh, you know,

623
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: suspect and then you know, now she you know, she's

624
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: telling everyone she's fine, and you know she doesn't look fine.

625
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: So all right, Bobby, well you know we're going to

626
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: see if your prediction was right or not.

627
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 2: So we are. And just like you were the first

628
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: person to predict that Dion Standers was going to lose,

629
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: people forget about that, right, everybody was on the Dion

630
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: Sanders train. And then one Saturday Lisa Booth jumped on

631
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: The Big Saturday Show and question how good of a

632
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: coach Dion Sanders was, and a couple hours later he lost.

633
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: Then he kept on losing it and make a mistake.

634
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: I've told some of the sports networks if they want

635
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: to analysts call Lisa.

636
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, no one called. I will say, in fairness,

637
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: I did admit that I phoned a friend and the

638
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: phone was the friend was my dad, so it was

639
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: his prediction. I did give him proper credit, but so

640
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I would need to phone him every time

641
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm on So that might be why I didn't get

642
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: the calls that we were expecting. I don't know. Just

643
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: spend that out there.

644
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: I thought maybe I was losing my touch.

645
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: All right, everybody go follow up? You know Bobby where

646
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: you know OutKick? Where else can people read your work?

647
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: Find you?

648
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? OutKick. I do a lot of interviews throughout the

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Speaker 2: week on different networks and podcasts and radio shows. So

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Speaker 2: you can find me on Twitter, OutKick dot com, and uh,

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Speaker 2: it should be good. I'm not actually not on any

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Speaker 2: other social media platform. I know I should be because

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Speaker 2: I just said that you should be. But fortunately right

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Speaker 2: now I'm only on Twitter, and.

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Speaker 1: Uh, what's your Twitter again? Because it's not just your

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Speaker 1: name right because I feel like I've had a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of a sore subject. So I'm

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Speaker 2: stuck at at Burrak Bobby Underscore because somebody in twenty

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Speaker 2: thirteen took my name Bobby Burrack and I can't get

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Speaker 2: it back, and the account is not active, has been

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Speaker 2: active in eleven years, but I can't have it. So

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Speaker 2: I have this stupid name that makes me look like

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Speaker 2: some troll or fanboy or egg account, but unfortunately, yeah

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Speaker 2: it's at Burrak Bobby Underscore.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was only saying that because I know I've

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Speaker 1: tried to tag you before, and then I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well.

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Speaker 1: That is rude and hopefully you can get it back

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Speaker 1: one day. Always going to talk to you my friends.

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Speaker 1: You're a great friends, a great writer, and always a

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Speaker 1: great interview. So appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you really appreciate it anytime.

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Speaker 1: That was Bobby Brooke with OutKick. Go check out his work.

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Speaker 1: He's a great guy, great friend. Appreciate him making the time.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you listening at home every Monday and Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: John Cassio and my producer for putting the show together.

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Speaker 1: Until next time,