1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin Surrele on Bloomberg Radio. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Surreli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Radio, awaiting Governor Chris Christie to call in. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: And we've got a lot of questions as we continue 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: to cover the developments of this week into right next week. 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. Chris Christie is on the line, 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: and Governor, I gotta ask you how you feeling. I 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: know that you've been recovering from COVID nineteen. I heard 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: your p s A with the COVID Collaborative urging folks 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: to wear a mask. How you been. I'm much better, 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. I'm back to It took me a 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: while a little while to get there, a few three 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: three weeks or so after I got out of the 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: hospital to really feel back to a hundred percent. But 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: I am feeling back to add percent now and feel 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: very fortunate. And you know, I got to be candid 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: here just to ask you a follow up on this. 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: I was telling my dad when he turned seventy on 19 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: his birthday. I grew up in Zelco, near near Jersey 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: governor on the other side of the commodore Barry right, 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: and uh, I said, Zack, you got to wear a mask. 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's not it's not political. And he said, alright, keV, 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: al right, I'll wear the mask. But just from your 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: own experience, enough of the cereally, soapbox. How important is 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: it for people, especially at the refineries and whatnot, to 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: make sure they're wearing their masks. Well, listening, here's the 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: here's the proof. Talk all right. What's your dad's name. 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Nick's a really Nick. Here's the deal. Okay. For seven 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: months I wore the mask whenever I went out, um 30 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: every place I was a supermarket or out shopping someplace else, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: or go to see you know, my kids. I always 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: wore the mask. And for seven months I stayed healthy. 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: For four days I took the mask off in a 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: place where everybody who walked in the place was getting tested, 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: the White House. And still those are the four days 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: where I caught it. Seven months of good work thrown 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: away by four days of carelessness. And at the end 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: of it, that's the proof. Seven months I stayed healthy, 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: four days I kept the mask off, and I got 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: sick and got into the hospital. Into the intensive care unit. 41 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, there's just no question in my mind. 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: Does wearing the mask absolutely a dent prevent you. No, 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: But if you are twice as likely to get COVID 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: without a mask, and you are with one, on to 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: me the odds or in favor of wearing the mask, Nick, 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: so put it on and don't drive you pour Son crazy. 47 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Governor. All right, let's talk about the 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: events that have been happening here in Washington, d C. 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: This week. There's been a lot of talk of through 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: members of Congress both parties, about whether or not the 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: president should resign, whether or not the cabinet should invote 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: the twenty Amendment, whether or not there should be impeachment proceedings. 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: What's the best course of action? Governor. It's the first off, 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that the president's conduct, quite frankly, in the 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: last eight weeks since the election, has been beneath the 56 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: office he holds and much less than we should ever 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: have to expect from a president. And this is coming 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: from a guy who's been his friend for twenty years. Uh. 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this on the radio. I've 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: said it to him directly. So let's start with that 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: that the President has conducted himself horribly in these last 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: eight weeks. There are less than twelve days left now 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: of his presidency. They're not gonna be able to impeach 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: and remove him in time get all that process done, 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: And the exercise of amendment will not get done because 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: even if the vice president and half the cabinet signed 67 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: to remove it, he still hasn't a right to appeal 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: that to Congress. That won't get done in the next 69 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: eleven days. What I think I've said a number of 70 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: times publicly already is every member of the cabinet who 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: remains and the commissions, members of the senior staff all 72 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: take an oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution. 73 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Their job over the next eleven days is if they 74 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: see anything that they believe violates the constitution. That's what 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: the President incited this week did that they need to 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: sound the alarm, and if they do, the country will 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 1: take the right steps. But I think the rest of this, Kevin, 78 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: is all just you know, kind of professorial type of discussion, 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: because the fact is, with this few, these few days left, 80 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: it's not gonna get done anyway. Do you think, sir, 81 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: that there should be consequences for President Trump, Rudy Giuliani 82 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: and others for um inciting this attack on the Capitol. 83 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: What should that be if it isn't what we just discussed. Well, 84 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: for the President, I think they've already been consequentious. He 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: has been publicly shamed by members of both parties. He 86 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: has been UM watched as senior officials in the White 87 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: House Cabinet members have resigned because of his conduct, and 88 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: he's had allies like mine, like me rather on the outside, 89 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: you know, saying that his conduct is unacceptable. UM. Now, 90 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: whether or not there are criminal or civil consequences for this, 91 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I don't think we all 92 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: know enough yet to know the answer to that question. 93 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: But I am confident that appropriate authorities will be looking 94 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: at that to make a determination. But in the end, 95 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do to a public figure 96 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: is to diminish their public ending, and his public standing, 97 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: no question, has been diminished by his conduct for the 98 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: last eight weeks, and by particularly his conduct on the 99 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: morning of January six, the conduct by his son. I 100 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: don't know who he thinks he is. I mean to 101 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: be saying, we're going to go after people. I mean, 102 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: Don Junior is big accomplishment is to be Don Junior, 103 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the son of Donald Trump. I don't think that entitles 104 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: him to be going around and telling people they're going 105 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: to be going after people. And so, you know, we'll 106 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: see what happens. But I don't think that we should 107 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: be thinking that there's been no cost so far, because 108 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: the diminishment and the president's standing across this country I 109 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: think has been significant. I was actually in Texas, uh 110 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: covering um when you announced that you were endorsing done 111 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: candidate Donald Trump. I was embedded with the Trump campaign 112 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: and Fort Worth and you, along with millions of Americans, 113 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: wanted to take a political gamble and and shake up 114 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Washington and and and try to uh create some changes 115 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: for the middle class in this country. As you try 116 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: to put in perspective the events that have unfolded this week, 117 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: is their room in the Republican Party for Trump is 118 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm moving forward. Well, let's make a distinction between the 119 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: messenger and the message. You know, the message of lower taxes, 120 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: less regulation, standing up to China, conservative judges on the courts, Kevin. 121 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Those are very popular issues in this country, and I 122 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: think Kevin majority. Um, in this country. What did not 123 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: have a majority support, and the reason I believe the 124 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: president lost reelection was because of his personal behavior. His 125 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: behavior as president United States, most exemplified by the last 126 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: eight weeks, UM. You know, is what the folks across 127 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: this country who voted for Donald Trump in large numbers 128 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: four years ago but did not vote for him this time. 129 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: It supported President LEC. Biden. That's what they were objecting to. 130 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: And and that's a very personal kind of loss for 131 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: the president that sustained. But I do believe there's many 132 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 1: things that he did. You know, the the the uh 133 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: the Accords, the Abraham Accords in the Middle East, Um, 134 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, the drawing down of our troops around the world. 135 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: All those things are things that are going to be 136 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: part of his policy legacy. But unfortunately, because of his behavior, 137 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: that behavior is obscured to some extent the policy legacy. 138 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: But it's our job as Republicans to say, here the 139 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: good things that have happened, and the good things we 140 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,239 Speaker 1: want to continue down the road. UM, in the same philosophy, 141 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: to advocate to try to improve the lot of the 142 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: folks this country, most particularly those folks who need our 143 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: help the most, which is the middle class, packs Beyer 144 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: well Glove. I want to bring it right back to 145 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: the middle class because earlier today President elect Joe Biden 146 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: delivered remarks about the type of economic relief package that 147 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: he'd like to see happen in his first one days. 148 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm thinking about people who have just 149 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: finished this work week and are and are thinking what 150 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: what When is the relief coming? You know, whether it's 151 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: structural changes to the economy, whether it's lowering taxes or 152 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: whatever the solution. And you know, good faith policymakers and 153 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: both parties can have that conversation. But I want to 154 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: play for you this, uh sir, because we've got sound 155 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: on it, and then get your reaction. Here's the President 156 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: elect speaking. The job reports shows we need to provide 157 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: more immediate relief for working families and businesses now now, 158 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: not just helping get on the other side of this 159 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: painful crisis, but a larger purpose to avoid a broader 160 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: economic cost that exists out there that will happen due 161 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: to long term unemployment, hunger, homelessness, and business failings. Governor Christie, 162 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: We've got you know, a twenty seven trillion dollar debt. 163 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of folks in your party 164 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: who are concerned about that. They're trying to weigh what 165 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: the most fiscally responsible path forward is for the country. 166 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, listen, I think that you know, unfortunately, 167 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: not just since the pandemic, but over the course of 168 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: the last four years, we haven't paid much attention to 169 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: the deficit and and the results. I think that's one 170 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: of the families of the Trump administration that he hasn't 171 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: that he did not pay attention to, that did not 172 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: use some of his political capital to try to bring 173 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: some of that spending under control. I understand during the 174 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: pandemic why we would be doing that. It's an absolute 175 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: national emergency um, but I think we have to look 176 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: at things a little bit differently now as we move forward. 177 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: So I look at this in two different ways. I 178 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: think the next six months, we have to look at 179 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: ways to continue, you to try to effectively keep businesses open, 180 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: keep people employed, and help the support people who still 181 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: cannot get their lives back to normal because of the 182 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: restrictions that are being placed on us because of the 183 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: pandemic by government. And then just the common sense things 184 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: that we can't do. But after the next six months, 185 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: I think we have to have a hard conversation with 186 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: the American people about what we need to do from 187 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: here because that kind of continuing escalating debt is unsustainable. 188 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: All right, I want to bring in the squad here 189 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: to to ask some questions or not. Nowadays the word 190 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: squad has political annotation, so I shouldn't say that the 191 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: team is probably the better the better word to use, 192 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: and that's our Bloomberg Political contributors. Vick Davis is the 193 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: former campaign manager of John McCain's two thousand and eight 194 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: presidential campaign. He's a partner at Stone Corps Capital, and 195 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: of course Jeanne's you know, she is a professor of 196 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: political science that I own a college. Uh. And and Rick, 197 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean you've been listening to the to my conversation 198 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: with the Govs as I call them, Governor Hogan as 199 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: well as now Governor Christie, and I know that you've 200 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: been reflecting we both online offline with me this week 201 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: about the direction of political discourse in this country. But 202 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: you know your reaction and your question to Governor Christie. Yeah, no, 203 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: I think Governor Hogan hit on it, and so did 204 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: you Governor. Christie's good to talk to you, and I'm 205 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: glad you're feeling well. We were praying for you when 206 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: you got COVID. It's a horrible position to be in, 207 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: but you're a fighter. We had no doubt where you'd 208 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: wind up on the end of that. Um, I'm really 209 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of curious what your thoughts are about the party. 210 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: You know, the GOP has had a bad run under 211 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You know, of course he won the sixteen 212 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: race or the sixteen race, but the mid terms we 213 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: lost a higher end record number of seats in the House, 214 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: lost control of the Senate this time around the presidency. 215 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: By any stretch of the imagination, it's been a bad run. 216 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: And yet, the day after the incursions into the Capital, 217 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: while Republicans like yourself are decrying Trump's uh messaging and 218 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: and and invoking the crowd to uh take it into 219 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: their own hands, he got on the phone with the committee, 220 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: the Republican Party Committee meeting for their winter meeting, and 221 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: was applauded and cheered and you got a standing ovation 222 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: from what I understand, uh and and and this is 223 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: a party that suffered pretty badly these losses under Donald 224 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Trump's leadership. Of the party and um. And then the 225 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: next day they re elected the chairman that he put 226 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: in charge of the party, Rona McDaniel, for another two year. 227 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Stint is party chairman. UM. Where do you see us 228 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: going as a party at this stage? I mean he 229 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: obviously Donald Trump still dominates the hearts and minds of 230 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: the leadership of the party, the state chairman and the 231 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: National Committee people and um and and and the question 232 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: is where do we go from here as a party? UM? 233 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, the country uh is a much more importan 234 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: an issue. But at the end, we have to feel 235 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: a group of candidates and we need an ideology that 236 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: you described that needs to be reinvigorated. What do you 237 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: think who are the leaders who are going to come 238 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: to the table now who aren't aren't damaged by the 239 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: brand Donald Trump? Well, Rick, as you know from your 240 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: long association with the party and your your senior level 241 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: physicians with Senator McCain. UH, the r n C, especially 242 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: when you have a president, is controlled by the president. UM. 243 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: The RNC chairman selected by the president and many many 244 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: of the folks who become National Committee folks are are 245 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: selected by the president. UM. You know, with influence that 246 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: he uses that he has in the individual states that 247 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: selection process. So I've never looked to the r n 248 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: C membership as the real leaders of our party. UM. 249 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: What I look to are those people who have the 250 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: best ideas, the most energy, and the greatest ability to 251 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: be able to articulate those ideas and bring life to 252 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: those ideas. And I do think when you look at 253 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: this election, the Republicans did okay, you know, we added 254 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: fourteen seats in the House, we flipped to state legislative chambers, 255 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: we flipped the governorship in Montana, and I think absolute 256 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: the president's conduct in the last eight weeks, we would 257 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: have maintained our majority in the Senate. UM. And so 258 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we have a an issue problem. I 259 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: think we had a personality and behavior problem. And I 260 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: think that the people in the suburbs didn't abandon us 261 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: UM as they did in in in many states like Georgia, 262 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: like Arizona in particular, UM because of our ideas. It's 263 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: because they rejected the president's behavior in his personal conduct office. 264 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: And so I think that they's going to give us 265 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go back and re you know, reinvigorate 266 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: our ideas in responding, and you know, it's always easier 267 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: to respond in some ways, right, So we'll be responding 268 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: to what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris do and I'm 269 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: sure we're gonna have a lot to say about it 270 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: and to be able to contrast our message um with 271 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: the ideas that we're putting forward. But in the end, 272 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, candidates matter. You know, everybody counted out John 273 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: McCain in two thousand eight, right, he went up there 274 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: and worked like crazy in New Hampshire. They knew him, 275 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: they loved him, and he won. Not because he had 276 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: the most money, because as you know, he didn't anymore, 277 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: Not because he had the biggest organization, because he didn't anymore, 278 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: but because he was the best candidate. And I think 279 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: that in the end, our leadership will come from those 280 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: people who want to put themselves forward and are willing 281 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: to take the risk that goes along with putting your 282 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: name on the ballot um and putting your ideas out there. 283 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: And I still think our ideas are the better ideas. 284 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: I still think we're a right of center country. And 285 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: I think whatever the Biden administrations Democratic Congress wind up 286 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: doing over the next two years, I think that's gonna 287 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: put that in even a greater light over these next 288 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: two years, and if we conduct ourselves appropriately, I think 289 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: we'll be in good shape in to regain the House 290 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: and the Senate a little dice here because of the map, 291 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: but certainly regain the House. One thing, in particular, Governor, 292 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: the best thing Republican Party ever had going for it 293 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: was the Democratic Party. Yeah, and you know, and and 294 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I guess what, I'm sure Democratic sitting there right now 295 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: is saying the same thing about the Republican Party. Right 296 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: so after that's this week. It happens. And sometimes, you know, 297 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: sometimes politics isn't about being ingenious, sometimes just about not 298 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: shooting yourself in the foot. You know. I often tell 299 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: people that in two thousand nine, when I beat the 300 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: incumbent Governor John Cores, I'm here. I didn't win, he lost, 301 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: and I just happened to be the reasonable alternative who 302 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: was on the battle. But they were voted for me, 303 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: they were voting against him. And and sometimes that's the 304 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: way it happens in politics. And I think that's clearly 305 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: what happened in Georgia. I will you will not convince 306 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: me that a lot of the people who voted for 307 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: John Assoff and for Raphael Warnick. Certainly not the people 308 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: who made the difference in a five figure race UM, 309 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: in terms of the difference between the winner and the loser, 310 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: UM are people who believe in their philosophy. They were 311 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: voting against the president and voting against those people who 312 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: they feel as if supported the president blindly. UM. And 313 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: I think that's what cost us the election in Georgia 314 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: was you know, the president's behavior, uh, and the and 315 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: the eight and the you know the eight weeks after 316 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: the election where he said everything he could to depressed 317 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: turnout in Georgia and you saw Rick, you know the numbers, 318 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: you know these states. We lost that race in Georgia 319 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: because rural turnout wasn't where it was supposed to be. 320 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: And I believe those are people who just didn't vote 321 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: because the President was telling them the systems rigged. The 322 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: governors of krook, the secretary states are crook. They're all bad, 323 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: and your votes don't matter. You know, you tell a 324 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: lot of people that you're just not gonna spot is 325 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: showing up. And I think you know, David proding Kelly's 326 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: offer out of the Senate UM for that reason, it's 327 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: a fascinating, fascinating diagnostic coming from Chris Christie that we're 328 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: listening to. Just to reset quickly, I'm Kevin CEREALI Chief 329 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent fro Bloomberg TV and Radio, joined of course 330 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: by our indefatigable team, Rick Davis and Jeanie's Ao. Genie, 331 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: you've been listening in your question, Yeah, Hi, Governor Christie, 332 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: and I just want to jump off where you just were, 333 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: because I talked to young people all day long, and 334 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, two things really stick out to me. Number One, 335 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: in the last at least two election cycles, with the 336 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: presidential candidates in particular, they have not been thrilled by 337 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: their choices. These have not been quite popular choices. And 338 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: the second thing is many of them do think the 339 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: system is, if not rigged, working against them. And these 340 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: are people across the aisle, from Democrats to Republicans, conservatives 341 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: to liberals. So I wonder how do you change that 342 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: view amongst not just young people like I talked to, 343 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: but people all across the country who think the system 344 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: is working against them. Well, it's really good, two really 345 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: good points seen. I think I'm the first one I've 346 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: often said about the way politics, national politics in America 347 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: works is that you don't get to vote for who 348 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: you want to vote for. You get to vote for 349 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: who's left. And certainly we know four years ago, those 350 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: were the two most unpopular presidential candidates UM in the 351 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: twentie in in anytime the century UM to appear on 352 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: the ballot, given their ratings the day of the election, UM, 353 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: and this time, I could see why they weren't excited 354 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: by either the president if you're a young person, or 355 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: by Joe Biden. Given the huge generational differences. UM. You know, 356 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: President Biden seventy eight years old and Donald Trump is 357 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: seventy four years old, and their baby boomers and these 358 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: gen zers like I can't barely see baby boomers from 359 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: where they've set. And so I can understand that I 360 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: got in or off for any baby boomers listening. Just 361 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, I I take it Governor Christie is speaking ephemistically, 362 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: go ahead, sir, yes, euphemistically, Kevin UM, And so you know, 363 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I think that you know. But but in Genie, in 364 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: this same period of time, I don't think that's the 365 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: way young people felt when Barack Obama was on the ballot. 366 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way young people felt, and 367 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of young people who 368 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: voted for John McCain as well, that we're more conservative. 369 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way people felt about George W. 370 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: Bush and Al Gore. In fact, I think there was 371 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: a lot of excitement about both of those candidates, and 372 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: that's all that within the last twenty years. My point 373 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: on this is, in the end, the biggest you know, 374 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: and it is not meant to denigrate Rick and the 375 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: profession he's in, but the fact is candidates. The candidates 376 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: are the most important factor. There's strategy, which is important, 377 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: there's money which is important, but in the end, it's 378 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: the candidates that are most important. And I think, GI 379 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: the way you fix it is to get better candidates, 380 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: and I think we have the possibility of being able 381 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: to do that now because we're gonna see a generational change. 382 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Um after Joe Biden's first term, I can't imagine he'll 383 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: run for reelections and you're gonna see a generational change, 384 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: which I think will give us the opportunity to have 385 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: candidates that will be more appealing and speaking more directly 386 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: to the concerns of the young people that you're talking 387 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: to every day, because in the end, that's what makes 388 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: the difference. And I think it's long overdue for a 389 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: genera change. Barack Obama gave us kind of a head 390 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: fake on generational change, UM, and we wound up with 391 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Joe Biden in the aftermath of that. 392 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: But I really do think this will be the end 393 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: for the baby boomers, as you know, national candidates, and 394 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: this next generation will be looking to replace them, and 395 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: I think we'll have much more to say to younger 396 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: people that will be relevant to appeal to them. Rick, 397 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: do you agree with that? Go ahead and ask your 398 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: follow up. Oh, yeah, No, I think that the governor 399 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: is exactly right. I mean, this is always the point 400 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: I made when I was managing campaigns, is we got 401 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: to stay out of the way of the candidate. UM. 402 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Nothing you do as far as those mechanics are anywhere 403 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: near as important as the person themselves. And if the 404 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: person has flaws, that campaign's gonna have flaws. And and 405 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: his example of John McCain going up to New Hampshire 406 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: and fighting his way through a horrible campaign and a 407 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: horrible period of time for him, UM showed exactly that 408 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: that one man can accomplish great things in politics, and 409 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: we can only hope that that that this is something 410 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: that that future generations of of operatives like I had 411 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: can work for great candidates like Chris Christie and John 412 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: McCain and Ron Reagan and folks. So I got the 413 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: pleasure of working war. So I think that I think 414 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: it's spot on and and and look, without the presidency, 415 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: can Donald Trump continue to maintain his following? Uh, we'll see. 416 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: We already see uh magga universe starting to criticize Donald 417 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: Trump for actually conceding uh to uh to to Joe Biden. 418 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: And so as time goes on, Uh, the only thing 419 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: you know for sure in politics is the landscape is 420 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna change. All Right, I gotta come in here because 421 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: I got two minutes left. And Governor Chris Christie, I 422 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: have always wanted to ask you this question. It has 423 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: been a long week for everyone. But you know, growing 424 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: up growing up in Delco, I was I am a 425 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: devout Philadelphia Eagles fan. It's been a rough season. There's 426 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: always next year. I know we're gonna win the Super 427 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: Bowl next year. I never, sir, I never understood your 428 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: affinity for the Dallas Cowboys where does that even come from. 429 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you explain very simply two words. Roger. When 430 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I was eight years old, Roger Staubach was quarterbacking in 431 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl, and it was 432 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: my first Super Bowl that I remember watching the Super 433 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: Bowl six um against the Miami Dolphins, and I watched 434 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: Roger starback play and then watched them interviewed after the game, 435 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: and I said, why would you ever want to root 436 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: for anybody else? Captain America and I it really was 437 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: all about Starback. And as I'm sitting in my office 438 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: here in Marstown, New Jersey, I am staring up at 439 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: my most pro possession from my eight years as governor, 440 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: which is a football which is signed to Governor Chris Christie. 441 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: You're the best, Roger Staback. That's it for me. Kevin 442 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: and and Hillary Clinton. You can't change your team because 443 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: the politics, right. So I stood for eight years in 444 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: a state, as you know, that has nothing but Giants 445 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: fans and Eagles fans. They couldn't go to people I 446 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: used to get all the time. But your team is 447 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: just Kevin. You gotta leave it there. I needed that laugh, 448 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: all right. Coming up Monday, wear a mask Dad. Monday, 449 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I've got Dr Deborah Burkes. Have a great weekend. Everybody, 450 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg.