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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini your self mini episode. Motherfucking mini your self.

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Speaker 2: I might swelling in that corner.

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Speaker 3: WHOA.

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Speaker 2: Welcome little Mama's and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode.

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Speaker 2: And my mama told.

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Speaker 4: Me the podcast where we dive deep deep into the

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Speaker 4: pockets of black conspiracies WHOA, and we.

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Speaker 2: Finally worked to prove the conspiracies of Yo WHOA. That

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Speaker 2: shit does go, though it does go.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I hated it at first. I'm not

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Speaker 4: even gonna be one of those people that was like

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Speaker 4: from the beginning I knew that Liangeloba was sitting on

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Speaker 4: a hit. I really hated it, and I think the

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Speaker 4: Internet has kind of forced my hand into into seeing

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Speaker 4: the vision that he had.

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Speaker 2: I think it just sounds like a time that I

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Speaker 2: was listening to a lot of music as well. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's like, it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: as good of a version of that song as the

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Speaker 2: Cash Money Millionaires would have made, but it does sound

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Speaker 2: like a song that the Cash Money Millionaires with.

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Speaker 4: It's a real it's like early flow Rider, do you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Where it like?

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Speaker 4: I think I think you're thinking of flow Rider as

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Speaker 4: he is now as this sort of like clownish version

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Speaker 4: of you know what I mean? He makes Miami songs

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Speaker 4: now whatever, Right, but there was an era of flow

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Speaker 4: Rider where he was like closer to Rick Ross than

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Speaker 4: he was to what he is.

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Speaker 2: What was the first flow Rider song?

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Speaker 4: I don't remember, To be honest with you, there's a

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Speaker 4: there's a part of me that feels like flow Rider

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Speaker 4: has always been here and it's scared.

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Speaker 2: No way, no way, no.

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Speaker 4: There's a part of me that feels like time there

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Speaker 4: has never been a time without flow Ride.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't I I believe you. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: a flow Rider era where I was like, you know

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Speaker 2: what that shit is? Actually okay.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was okay, but I think it

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Speaker 4: hits with a type of nostalgia that that we all yearn.

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Speaker 2: For, right, I mean, it is fun that my coolest

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Speaker 2: era is now the era that kids are obsessed with, Like, damn,

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Speaker 2: we're about to wear two T shirts again. It's good us.

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Speaker 4: There was no way I will walk out the house

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Speaker 4: with one T shirt and come on in my homeless

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Speaker 4: one T shirt. Come on, man, you put a T

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Speaker 4: shirt on and then you put another T shirt on

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Speaker 4: and you.

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Speaker 2: Show a little bit of that T shirt underneath. It's

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Speaker 2: usually a white T shirt. White T shirts are for underneath.

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Speaker 2: I get T shirts are for on top.

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Speaker 4: I used to wear a white T shirt on top

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Speaker 4: of a white T shirt. I like, I've done this

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Speaker 4: is my this is my bummy shirt. But I got

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Speaker 4: to put on a nice shirt.

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Speaker 2: A white on I used to. I used to be

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Speaker 2: like working out for football in two T shirts, like

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Speaker 2: in the weight room, two T shirts.

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Speaker 4: Dog, it makes no sense. This, I'll protect my shirt

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Speaker 4: on top is a shirt underneath. That way, my skin

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Speaker 4: never touches the shirt. It's still clean shirt.

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Speaker 2: But then if you ever got the ratio off, you

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Speaker 2: also look like a crazy person. Oh you look nuts.

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Speaker 2: Like if the undershirt was like a little too big and.

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Speaker 4: Had like had that sloppy ass collar, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean. It was like, oh man, you look like

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Speaker 4: you look like an animal. You look undershirt has to

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Speaker 4: have the tight collar. Overshirt, I have a loose collar.

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Speaker 4: You let white to the neck, You let undershirt, You

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Speaker 4: let overshirt be with ever the fuck the overshirt wants

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Speaker 4: to be. Yeah, yeah, undershirt better be clean.

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Speaker 2: Because they know you got another shirt off. I remember

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Speaker 2: for years after that era, it being very difficult to

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Speaker 2: go out just wearing one T shirt, like to untrain.

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Speaker 2: That was like it never felt you're like, oh no,

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Speaker 2: but where's my other shirt?

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Speaker 4: At It took a minute in my brain for sure.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, if I'll be truly honest, I'm still programmed.

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Speaker 2: I still want that other shirt.

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Speaker 4: Moments where you're like, yeah, I would never wear and

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Speaker 4: I've seen people do this. I would never wear a

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Speaker 4: hoodie without a shirt.

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Speaker 2: No, I want I even now I'm kind of upset.

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Speaker 2: I want you to see a little bit of the

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Speaker 2: shirt underneath the hoodie.

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Speaker 4: I like when this this part show, I'm like, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is nasty. I like it on the bottom a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 4: Oh, just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You to be I need you to know that I

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Speaker 2: had a shirt as large as my hoodie, and that's

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Speaker 2: how I'm feeling.

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Speaker 4: I like that it was a it was a size

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Speaker 4: issue for you. Yeah, might be bigger than a hoodie.

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Speaker 4: Fuck you, I got good. I got huge news, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Oh my ship big. I ain't got a small thing

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Speaker 4: in my closet.

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Speaker 2: Motherfucker.

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Speaker 5: There's no the numbers. There's no two xls in here.

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Speaker 5: It's all three t's three XL t's. I did never

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Speaker 5: like though tall teas. I always felt stupid if my

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Speaker 5: T shirt went near my knees. So that's too far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't care for that. I thought

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Speaker 4: tall teas had to be tasteful tall. Yeah, you had

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Speaker 4: to be the three xt is for tasteful. You have

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Speaker 4: to be really tall, yeah, or at least it had

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Speaker 4: to be creating the illusion that you were. It couldn't

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Speaker 4: be that thing. I want to look like soldier boy.

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Speaker 4: That shit looked crazy. No, he looks stupid or fat.

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Speaker 2: It's like because then it's just draping off of a

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Speaker 2: bad bill.

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Speaker 4: All the er was not for y'all, And that's that's

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Speaker 4: fucked up.

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Speaker 2: No, not it all. It's crazy that our raw with

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Speaker 2: the bag of his clothes did not suit us at all.

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Speaker 4: No, we we really made it still like a skinny

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Speaker 4: interpretation of big clothes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: Meant to elongate. Like the Selo was wearing tall teas

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Speaker 4: and he looked fucking nuts.

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Speaker 2: He looked bad. Especially if you got like a real

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Speaker 2: solid belly, it just high. You get that tall hot,

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Speaker 2: you look like basketball.

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Speaker 4: All right, we all wearing tall ties and this nigga

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Speaker 4: got a mumma on.

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Speaker 2: Hagen. It's drinked all weird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, anyways, I'm glad it's coming back.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jellous, Thank you Leangelo.

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Speaker 2: You you.

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Speaker 4: Have proven once again the strength of LeVar ball and

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Speaker 4: and his family. You can't miss the man, can't miss.

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Speaker 2: We all have a dog. No, it's just some three boys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and his their mom is sick and so LeVar

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Speaker 4: in some ways has been doing this all by himself.

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Speaker 2: Baby. He didn't even fix his teeth. He got front facing.

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Speaker 2: That was always crazy to me because I think he

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Speaker 2: had the money to do it, but it was like

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Speaker 2: maybe like Nads with the chip tooth, where he's like, no,

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Speaker 2: that's just me.

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Speaker 4: No, I really think and this is what I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I really

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Speaker 4: think he's just a good fucking guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fair because he's a psychopath. But I

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Speaker 4: don't think that his his goal in this was to

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Speaker 4: legit like become like this big body bends ass dude.

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Speaker 2: Oh you think it was really just my boys are

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Speaker 2: big ballers.

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Speaker 4: I think he really just wanted to turn those boys

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Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, he has stepped away. It's

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Speaker 2: not like he it's not like he like he like

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Speaker 2: took the platform and launched it, and now we see

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Speaker 2: LeVar ball content all the time. He really fell back

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Speaker 2: once they kind of went and did what they were

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Speaker 4: He got everything he wanted and he chilled.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I addressing like Steve Harvey. He didn't. He didn't

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Speaker 4: segue this into like Big Baller TV. It just he

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Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna get shoes so that i can

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Speaker 4: help pay for these boys to keep getting more famous

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Speaker 4: and more successful. And then at the point that I've

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Speaker 4: got it where it needs to be, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 4: the fuck out the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty okay with it. You can't say

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Speaker 2: he didn't do right by them boys.

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Speaker 4: He did fucking fantastic by them boys, and we had

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Speaker 4: some fun along the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, do I think he's a you know, a hero, No,

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Speaker 4: I don't, but I do think, God damn, he's fucking

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Speaker 4: he's just a decent man who yeah, out on everybody's

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Speaker 4: nerves for a little bit and who still it was

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Speaker 4: me thirty eight dollars. That's not thing he does. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be honest with you. I think what you did

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Speaker 4: was as close to a GoFundMe for LaMelo ball. No

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Speaker 4: I wanted the shirt though, Yeah, yeah, no, I understand.

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Speaker 4: But but you also wanted LaMelo. Do you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like in the back of your mind at

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Speaker 4: the time, at the time, he wanted Lonzo. You didn't

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Speaker 4: see the vision, Mama, he did?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because that's he's the coldest one, even back then.

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Speaker 4: But no, I'm saying beyond what what the assessment was,

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that LeVar knew from the beginning that he

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Speaker 4: was going to turn three boys into emperors, and even

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Speaker 4: when none of us could, but he proved everyone wrong.

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Speaker 4: And if we had to give him a little bit

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Speaker 4: of money, a little seed money with no results for

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Speaker 4: I think that's just what you have to You have

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Speaker 4: to chop it up to the game, baby.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. I've donated more to go fundmees that I

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Speaker 2: wasn't sure we're all that real.

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Speaker 4: There's a few people I know who fully faked an

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Speaker 4: illness that I gave money to. Damn that you know, personally,

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Speaker 4: I don't get that money back, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I man, I've got on there, because do you

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Speaker 2: I've got on there pretty fucked up, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: But you go on there and you try to find

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Speaker 2: like the real ones. And then now you're like buying

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner for someone who maybe or maybe doesn't have

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Speaker 2: a family.

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Speaker 4: No, I've never done it, like like a guy going

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Speaker 4: to the pound.

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Speaker 2: That's not what it's like. That's not what it's like.

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Speaker 2: It's that you first got money, you have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a you have a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: survivor's guilt, you have a little bit of remorse for

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Speaker 2: all this extra income you have. You're on a plane drinking,

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Speaker 2: and you feel like you have to do some good

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Speaker 2: in the world because it's Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: I hear you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But then I don't know where that went. You know, No,

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Speaker 2: you never will.

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Speaker 4: And and I think.

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Speaker 2: That Native American family have a Thanksgiving didn't. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's weird for me to donate.

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Speaker 4: Here's what I'll say. And I feel this way about

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Speaker 4: I don't think about it. If I have it, then

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Speaker 4: but what why didn't I It's just like, nah, that's

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Speaker 4: just I'm a participant in the human experience. You do

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, Nigga's diabolical.

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Speaker 4: Name down there.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh good man. That's where I'm a fucking idiot.

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Speaker 2: I don't put my name on it. Sometimes and they're not.

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Speaker 2: This is a stupid conversation. But sometimes you put it,

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Speaker 4: Yeah nah, I mean it does get you in trouble

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Speaker 2: You that's not that's not nasty. That's not nasty. You

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Speaker 4: And and I think, I think with that, you then

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Speaker 4: It was like crazy. I can't remember what it was

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Speaker 4: expect famous people. You can't expect rich people to give

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Speaker 4: you their money. That's just not how works, man. You

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk has fifty billion dollars.

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Speaker 5: If he gave just a billion dollars to eighty people,

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Speaker 4: Like, bro, what do you when does that ever happened?

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Speaker 4: What does that ever happens?

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Speaker 2: In a believable setting?

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Speaker 4: You're right, he's not doing you think you got a

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Speaker 2: Are you? Come on it. That's not the mentality that

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Speaker 4: He can't give it to you because if he gives

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Speaker 4: Right now he's got a problem because you're gonna sit

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Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, shut up, shut up.

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Speaker 2: I love it like I would love it if you did.

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Speaker 2: And listen, if you gave me a billion dollars, I

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Speaker 2: I'm not a guy who could earn a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: You said, so listen it really go fund me, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Want you want to give somebody in amount of money

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Speaker 2: Give it to me trying to give this shit away.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even rich. I've seen the type.

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Speaker 4: Of people who know how to like flip money into

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Speaker 4: these different things. Those are not insane people. They are

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Speaker 4: and strategic people who can flip money into a billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: You have to be a psychopath.

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Speaker 2: It's already. It's like a different because you have to

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Speaker 2: view the left, you have to view it on that level,

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Speaker 2: and that level is all imagined. It's all perceived. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. We're not dealing with people anymore. No,

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Speaker 2: it's like a whole other thing you're dealing You're dealing

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Speaker 2: with ideas. Like money at that scale is more of

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Speaker 2: not that's not that's not what we're doing. The people

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Speaker 2: who are gonna give that with money away. I work

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Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna figure out how to make any

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Speaker 4: Are in the bank, bro, bro.

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Speaker 2: It is not a portfolio, and I'm thought about it.

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Speaker 2: I've been like, damn, I should figure out I should

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Speaker 2: probably put this somewhere, make it, make it, make it shake.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how. I don't know how I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: buy a bunch of weed and send it to people.

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Speaker 2: It's really the only that's really the only come up

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Speaker 4: Nah. People people really know how to flip their money

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Speaker 2: And that's why I keep the moral high ground over here,

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, I don't respect money. It's not real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you are you just can't get it.

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Speaker 2: So no, no, no, I don't respect it. It's a joke.

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Speaker 2: What if there were no countries, the borders aren't real.

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Speaker 4: What if God was one of us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Come on, who made these ola gardens? Anyways, I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't respect your system. Therefore I do not play.

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Speaker 2: Do I have more money than I ever have? Yes?

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Speaker 2: And am I trying to go back? Hell no, I'll

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Speaker 4: No, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I had to did I tell you? I had to

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Speaker 2: go through that. I had a real epiphany about fifty

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Speaker 4: Oh no, you love fifty No, I still love fifty cent,

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Speaker 4: But I was just watching it and I was just like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's just what that guy's built for.

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Speaker 2: He likes that I'm kind of doing exactly. I like

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Speaker 2: my life that I made. There's no there's You could

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Speaker 2: have put me in the same exact life as fifty cent,

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Speaker 2: day to day, completely different outcomes. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be a shark. He always thought

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Speaker 4: it was gonna be funny to be mean to his son.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Right, that's real.

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Speaker 2: He is.

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Speaker 4: We all have that do dude in our lives where

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Speaker 4: you're like, he thinks it's funny to be like fucking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, god, bless, I respect skill. You're

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Speaker 4: And I bro as far as being Mandy your son

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Speaker 4: and making it funny fifty cents the.

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Speaker 2: King, and just like in being a business shark, who's

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Speaker 2: not really shark coded anymore.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I think that's the same mentality,

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Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Like, I'm all of

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Speaker 2: Which is ultimately great, not the children part, but the

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Speaker 2: other celebrities thing is funny. Give me my money, that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's great to see celebrity scared of a bully.

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Speaker 4: It's nice. He's really the best bully. I can't think

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Speaker 4: he's not really a bully because he's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: it's complicated with you know what's crazy And I've never

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Speaker 4: thought about this until this moment, But I'm curious to

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Speaker 4: hear your thoughts. How do you think Trump would fare

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Speaker 4: against fifty.

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Speaker 2: Stiffid? Is this like a queen's get the money type

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if fifty decided to like fully troll Trump,

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Speaker 4: like fully go at him online, why do you think

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Speaker 4: Trump would hold up? Because he would come back? Trump

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Speaker 4: is not He's a fighter, for sure. He's a fighter,

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Speaker 4: and he likes trolling. He likes being on the internet

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Speaker 4: talking nasty with people. That's a game he lives into.

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Speaker 4: How who's coming out on top in that? And obviously

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Speaker 4: the public will respond the way the public responds. I'm

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Speaker 4: not suggesting that MAGA would turn on him and suddenly

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Speaker 4: Trump is no longer you know what he is. But

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, pound for pound, who you think we're

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Speaker 2: Is that's tough because like in that and in a

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Speaker 2: with no stakes, like no political implications and stuff like

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Speaker 2: that just like that kind of thing. They're both kind

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Speaker 2: of unfadable, you know what I mean. It's tough. It's

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Speaker 2: it's like that is a difficult because Trump, man, I mean,

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Speaker 2: fifty has a lot of moments. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: has a fist up after he got shot type moment.

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Speaker 2: But he got shot nine times. That's how we got

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Speaker 2: you know, nobody was there.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I hate that that we've reached that era.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is though, that that you got fifty

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Speaker 2: he got shot in the car.

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Speaker 4: Fifty shot is now the Wilt Chamberlain one hundred point

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Speaker 4: game is crazy, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean?

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Speaker 4: That is to say we ain't got footage with the

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Speaker 4: dj't getting shot Trump stronger. It sucks that that's and

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Speaker 4: I'm not judging you, it's just what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying is that's the game Trump is playing.

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Speaker 4: That's the why.

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Speaker 2: The cameras there, That's why he had it's fished up.

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Speaker 2: Trump's some point pounds for pound.

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Speaker 4: And that would be such a funny moment when Trump goes,

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Speaker 4: I don't even believe he got shot. This footage of

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Speaker 4: me getting shot fifty cent, where's your footage? Where's your tape?

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Speaker 2: That's I think the angle. I think he also the

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Speaker 2: way that he called little Pump's little pimp, I think

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Speaker 2: he would diminish that in that way, who's this man dying?

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Speaker 2: Who's this man dying? Like I think because Trump does

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Speaker 2: that ship where it doesn't even have to be funny,

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Speaker 2: it just has to be like bold.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna call him fifty pass and.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna yeah, yeah, yeah, the.

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Speaker 4: Internet is gonna eat that up. It is okay.

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Speaker 2: But I think if it came down to him fifty

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Speaker 2: Nads versus jay Z. To me, we're talking about hypothetical

441
00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: who could win? Oh Man, fifty versus Trump. I think

442
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: I gotta give it to fifty. But I think that's

443
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 2: because fifty is willing to play the long game in

444
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: a way that I don't think Trump will be. Fifty

445
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: will be how long has he been talking about dinny parties?

446
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: And he'll play with you, but fifty will fifty will

447
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: go for a long time. Trump's seventy something right, like,

448
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: I think he just doesn't. I don't think he could

449
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 2: maintain it for that long, but I think it would

450
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: be a battle.

451
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Fifty's gonna hit him at weird hours in the

452
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 4: night that Trump can't uh can't handle.

453
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: And fifty is gonna go angles that maybe maybe Trump's

454
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: just not looking for because fifty fifty fifty go get

455
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: your man. Fifty fifty is gonna be Fifty's gonna pull

456
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: up to a bellatur fight with Don Junior, Like.

457
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna go kid for kids. He's gonna try

458
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: to fuck Tiffany.

459
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna go.

460
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna be nuts.

461
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 2: He's gonna have Malani on tape, like it's gonna be crazy.

462
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: Trump just saying, got the the stomach for trying to

463
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: fuck one of fifty cents you know wives or your

464
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: girlfriends or some shit, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,

465
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: he just sain't got it the way fifty would.

466
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: But I think it would be I think that would

467
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: be a battle man. That would be exciting.

468
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 4: I can't think of a better face off in terms

469
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: of powerhouses and and and just like people at their disposal.

470
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: I want because I've been thinking about like rap beats

471
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, then like I would like a

472
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: rap style beef that doesn't affect black people like that

473
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: doesn't that mobilizes completely different parts of the culture. Does

474
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: that make sense? Like I would want to see I

475
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: want to see like a Taylor Swift Garth Brooks beef,

476
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: but for real and mobilize that and let's all sit

477
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 2: back and watch and we could say snarky shit like

478
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it's great because Garth Brooks didn't say

479
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: he was gonna kill Taylor Swift. Whatever dumb white people

480
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: commentary there is.

481
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,719
Speaker 4: On the Yeah, they never they that, And you know,

482
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: you're really speaking to something that I think we've never

483
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: talked about before on this podcast is white people never

484
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: take it to their art.

485
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: No, because they don't want to lose their shit. Our

486
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: shit is disposable.

487
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 4: But it almost makes me feel and I don't think

488
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: they're making art then, do you know what I mean?

489
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 4: Like part of what the artistic experience is is to

490
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: be present in the world around you. And it's not

491
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 4: that they're not making art. I'm being reductive, but like

492
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 4: there's a part of me that feels like, well, then

493
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 4: y'all ain't doing what you claim art is supposed to

494
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: be in all these textbooks and all these sort of

495
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: like technical interpretations of art, you aren't taking the beef

496
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: or your actual feelings in a real place. You're just like, oh,

497
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: I'm arguing with Selena Gomez, but then I sing songs

498
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 4: about being sixteen and dating a prince or whatever the

499
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: fuck it is.

500
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's a thin line though, because

501
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 2: it's like, it's not like Beef Records are the only

502
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: art either, you know what I'm saying. I think they're

503
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: making a spectacle of it. I do think that, like,

504
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: because it seems to be like I don't listen to

505
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: that shit, but it seems to be like Taylor has

506
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 2: her lemonade right, Like it seems to be still like

507
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: reflecting on life and putting that out despite.

508
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very coded, sort of like people who are

509
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: big swifties claim that there are like all these messages

510
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: regarding her present life that are sort of deeply embedded

511
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 4: in the music, which is why hence her popularity. But

512
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: I think my point is less and I think Taylor

513
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 4: Swift maybe is a great example of it, where she

514
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: actively is writing about the things that she's experiencing. But

515
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: I think for the vast majority of white artists that's

516
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: not really what's happening. It seems to me like what

517
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: they're doing is just making this sort of like canned

518
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: version of the thing, but not necessarily giving us the

519
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: sort of active reflection. And maybe that again I'm being

520
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: so reductive. There are so many great examples of white

521
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: artists that that are doing it.

522
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: But I think that's the pop general. I think you

523
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: could make the same case for rap music, you know

524
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: what I mean.

525
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 4: Noos was talking about what the Migos was doing the

526
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 4: whole time, cooking that other ship going on, you know

527
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: what I mean.

528
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's an interesting thing, though, I wonder

529
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: that's interesting, the idea that they're not making art. I'm

530
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: being so I don't. I don't think I know enough

531
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: about it to talk, you know what I mean. I man,

532
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 2: people have gotten on me about this even ship. Like

533
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: I think that we came up in such a heavy

534
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: rap and R and B era that at the time

535
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: I should have been learning about other music's I really wasn't.

536
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking to you about this about music

537
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: and how I feel about it in the way that

538
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: like I listen, Beetles feel no same. Yeah, I just don't.

539
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 2: It just doesn't.

540
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: They had a couple of songs, so I'm like, yeah.

541
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like the songs that sound

542
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: like black people will sing them. Yeah.

543
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 4: I like Yesterday because boys men did it better.

544
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: I like Coming Together because Michael Jackson sanger at the

545
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: end of Moonwalker. Yeah, I don't know, that's interesting. I

546
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: would like to. I wonder. I wonder because if we're

547
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: looking at like generic, do you think generic black music

548
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: is still more connected than generic white music? I truly

549
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: can't tell.

550
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: When you say connected, what do you mean to.

551
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: Too audience experiences opposed to being like Because I mean,

552
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: it seems like white pop music has the same type

553
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: of ghostwriters in general, waves that get written and all

554
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: it does seem to be pretty pretty pretty similar. You know,

555
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't believe people believe in these rappers for nothing.

556
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I think I think it were less likely

557
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: than ever to have like these massive distinctions between white

558
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: and black music. I think more likely than ever less likely.

559
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: I think we're where the genres have bled into each

560
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: other so much that there isn't even really a distinction

561
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: in regional music anymore, do you know what I mean? Like,

562
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: not in a way that there was before. Yeah, when

563
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: when that Chicago era hit, you knew what a Chicago

564
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: rappers sounded like Atlanta rappers used to sound like Atlanta rappers.

565
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 4: New York for the longest was the only thing that

566
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: we associated with hip hop, and it wasn't you know

567
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: what I mean, like that Wu tang era where it

568
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 4: was just like if you didn't sound like a New Yorker,

569
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: you weren't even really rapping like that, you know what

570
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 4: I mean? Yeah?

571
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the West Coast was not getting of No.

572
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think nah, I I one hundred percent agree

573
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 4: that the blending has happened. I think I'm more speaking

574
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: just to the the emotional presence in the art form

575
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: less than an actual assessment of quality of art or Okay.

576
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: I got you, because the emotional presence that is one

577
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: good thing about I feel like black art in general

578
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: is that it usually it's present more often than not. Right,

579
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: it feels it feels that way even if he's lying. Man,

580
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: some of these rappers are rapping though, Yeah, even lies,

581
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: you feel that shit, And I don't. I don't necessarily

582
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: know that I feel that way when I listen to

583
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: other types of music. But maybe that might be like,

584
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: cause I think about it, even with rapping shit like that,

585
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: it's like so culturally coded, like you have to know

586
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: so much to know so much, you know what I'm saying.

587
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: And I wonder if maybe there's a level of that

588
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: to rock and roll music or some shit that I'm

589
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: just not getting. I don't think so, by the way,

590
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so, But maybe I think so.

591
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 4: I just don't think it's as interesting as our shit is.

592
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: That's fair, you know what I mean.

593
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: Like, I actually think there's a lot of stuff that

594
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 4: I'm never going to be able to understand inside of,

595
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: like fucking rolling Stone songs that that obviously gives people

596
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: feeling and meaning that, you know what I mean, Like,

597
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: I just would have to be unpacking to unpack. See,

598
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: But that's the shit I identify more to their old shit.

599
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: I like their old shit. Like white music in general,

600
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: I like their older shit. You know what I like

601
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: is old sad ass cowboys songs. I like that shit.

602
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: I think there's like a ton of emotion in it,

603
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because it all feels like

604
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: it comes from like a similar place, like of just

605
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: like working class struggle type music. And I like that shit,

606
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: So I get I could actually get down with that shit,

607
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: you know, Like I like because like the way that

608
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: the way that rap music cosplays is like gangsters or whatever,

609
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: they cosplay as cowboys. That's their shit. They like a

610
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: white boys love being cowboys.

611
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: Love that shit, you know, I can't get enough of it.

612
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: Like I think about that song Seven Spanish Angels with

613
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: Ray Charles and Willie Nelson, and it's just they're just

614
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: pretending to be cowboys.

615
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: You ever heard that song Ain't No Way Ray rode

616
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: a Horse?

617
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: Come Ray our country albums. Ray love country music, but

618
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: like that shit kind of to me is more interesting.

619
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: And because of that shit Mike Judge did with Tales

620
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: from the Tour Bus, where you watch these country music

621
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: artists from like the seventies sixties and you realize you're, like, oh,

622
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: they were thugging though they're shooting people and doing all

623
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: kinds of Shit's a lot.

624
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

625
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: I think I venture far more into white music than

626
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: you do, and which is odd.

627
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: I don't mean to not, but I think you do too, Yeah,

628
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: modern white music, because you don't I don't think you

629
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: don't see do you listen to a lot of older

630
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: white music too?

631
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: It depends what we call older. I think there are

632
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: certain eras, for sure. I love hauling oats, you know

633
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: what I mean, Yeah, that doesn't even count. Like so,

634
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: and that's not like the Beg's I fuck with them

635
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 4: super hard, like you know what I mean. Like, there's

636
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: there's some groups that I'm like truly tapped into their

637
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: whole discography.

638
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: Oh you know, I like is when Old Boy came

639
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: out drinking the Apple juice. I I did the deep

640
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: dive on Fleetwood Mac that like that.

641
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: Shit Leewood Mac is is dope. That's just a bunch

642
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 4: of motherfuckers that hated each other. And that's what I'm saying.

643
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 4: They were really making art because they were they hated

644
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: each other's guts. They were having these weird like fairs

645
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: and sort of like relationships splits and shit, and they

646
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: wrote about that and it was present in the music

647
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 4: and the people that track. And that's the kind of

648
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: stuff where like, if it weren't for white people explaining

649
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 4: to me that there's like more underneath these lyrics, I

650
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: wouldn't understand it.

651
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: That's fair.

652
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: That's would just be like, oh, it sounds like a

653
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: weird sort of like breakup song and they're like no, no, no,

654
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: you don't understand what she's saying. This she's talking about

655
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: this dude and he's sitting there playing the drums while

656
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: it's happening, like.

657
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: And it's like it's the same shit we do where

658
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: you're like, no, actually something about Jerry Hower and how

659
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

660
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: That's what I mean is that it's just not the

661
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: same as.

662
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: No, Homo fifty's man like whatever when you get on

663
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: your merd ship, I show many men with my girl

664
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: and you just really you're just like, oh, this is

665
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: not cool.

666
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: No.

667
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: The amount of.

668
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: The amount of school library hours I spent trying to

669
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 4: figure out who Un was from Jason.

670
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: So oh oh man, God, damn Un Rivera. That's some shit.

671
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: That is some time I will never get back.

672
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: Bro. I was learning everything I could to understand Volume two.

673
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Because I was back when you had to you had

674
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: to figure it out, Like it wasn't like I feel like,

675
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: I don't think New Yorkers understand how much access they

676
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: had to that information. Yeah, we had to. If we

677
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: were not If you were not in New York at

678
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: that time, you're on weird websites, angel fire websites.

679
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: Bro, you really had to study to feel like you

680
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: were connected to this music and y'all were learning about

681
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: it on the train. Yeah, you're just gossiping and.

682
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: You knew a guy who knew a guy.

683
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very different connection to the whole experience.

684
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's that's interesting. I never I

685
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: never thought about that. I guess all music is probably that,

686
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: and it's just whatever you're paying attention to, because it's

687
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: the same with people who don't listen to rap, like

688
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: this shit all sounds the same, which I used to

689
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: think it was crazy, and then I got older to

690
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: where I don't listen to as much new rap, and

691
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: when I tap in sometimes I'd be like, that's awesome. Yeah, no,

692
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: I I and exactly, that's what a genre is.

693
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to kind of make it, you have

694
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: to give it an energy. It's it's Afrobeats sounds the

695
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 4: same to me for all their music. But I bet

696
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: if I'm really diving into it, then it's unique and

697
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: sort of specific, and each person has their own sound

698
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: and ship.

699
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: And I don't have to dive into it. That's the

700
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: fun part. You used to get mad about people, but

701
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: it's like, no, that's what I don't pay attention to.

702
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what the what the

703
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: equivalent is? But that's all hippiie hop over that, that's

704
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: all scoop whatever.

705
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: I don't even fuck whatever do There's a bunch of

706
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 6: music out there. You don't have to pay attention to

707
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 6: my ship.

708
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: We should take a break. We haven't done anything for

709
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: this episode. We've been talking for a long time, mostly

710
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 4: about nothing. But but we're gonna take a quick break

711
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 4: and we're gonna come.

712
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: Back with more. David more Likeston more My mama told me, now,

713
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: who think you?

714
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: Who sent me the record company? I'm trying to take

715
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: some sets. This is interesting.

716
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: Let's wrap up. I feel like we can wrap it

717
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: up on this. Here's one thing about music that I

718
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: always feel weird is like to enjoy music so much

719
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: to not know anything about actual music. Oh that it

720
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 4: kind of bothers me because I told you I went

721
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: I told you about it. I went to the I

722
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: went to the Symphony on Mushrooms. Yes, it's like a

723
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: transformative experience.

724
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: Changed the idea of what I even thought music is

725
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: or was or could be, and the type of emotion

726
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: that it could convey outside of lyrics, right, like truly

727
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: like a wow. I didn't even understand but I still

728
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: listen to Gunplay when I walk the dog.

729
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: Here's here's what I'll say, and I am now I'm

730
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: regretting my earlier comments about them not having them not

731
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: making art. I do think that art is and again

732
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 4: I didn't mean it sincerely, I was being nanny nanny

733
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: booboo type boy.

734
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: But also I do want to say we talked shit

735
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: on here. Sometimes we think Sean Paul is Chinese, Sometimes

736
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: we don't. You just gotta deal with that.

737
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: I will say though, that I do think it speaks

738
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: to the ability to convey emotion without words and how

739
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: powerful that can be. Right that, Like, there there is

740
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 4: like the ability to make a breakup song and not

741
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: say hey we're breaking up out loud. Is fucking crazy.

742
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: To make someone feel that emotional journey of like damn,

743
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I was in love and now that heart is broken.

744
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 4: That's fucking crazy. To be able to put on a

745
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 4: violin and not also have lyrics with it.

746
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think to me, it's the

747
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: more amazing thing because then sometimes I feel like the

748
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: amount of research you have to do to even understand pop,

749
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: not just not just hip ho but like pop culture.

750
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: It's just like I don't have to know about thirty

751
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 2: other things that happen to enjoy this piece of classical music,

752
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't have to understand

753
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: I don't even have to understand music particularly, And I

754
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: think in that the idea that you could use that

755
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: to cut across to all groups is like pretty pretty amazing. Yeah.

756
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 4: Now it speaks to the talent of what musicianship is.

757
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: And I think if I if I can defend gunplay for.

758
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: A moment, I.

759
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: Know, I don't mean that defend them for you, but

760
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: more for the grander conversation that we're having. I think

761
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: what that also offers is a type of emotionality and

762
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: a type of journey from your own experience that is

763
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 4: so necessary for artistry as well. That part of what

764
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 4: you turn to musicians for is to feel less present

765
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: in your own body for a moment and just get

766
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: to be lost in the fantasy of someone else's life

767
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: and experience. And I think, you know, music can be

768
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 4: both masterful like an orchestra, and it can be just

769
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: some fun ass hood raight shit like InPlay.

770
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: That's true, man, And it doesn't have to be I mean,

771
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's kind of just

772
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: synthesizing emotion, right, and however you however you do that.

773
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 2: So I guess ultimately what we were landing on here

774
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: is there is no good or bad art. There's no

775
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: good or bad art, nothing matters. Yeah, watch a comedy

776
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: show who.

777
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: I think.

778
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 4: It's all subjective and unfortunately we don't all agree with us. Yeah,

779
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: and that's fine. Yeah, I really wish. And let me

780
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: make this clear, I really wish y'all niggas had better taste.

781
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: I see, But what does that mean? Because you love

782
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: Bruno Mars and a lot of people hate that.

783
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: And I think they're wrong, and I think history will

784
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: come to prove that they are wrong. I accept them

785
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 4: as they are. I will continue to love y'all niggas

786
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: the way you are. But you are wrong. Uptown gonna

787
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: funk you.

788
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the top tier.

789
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: I just don't know how else to explain this. You're wrong,

790
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: your taste is bad, but I love you anyway.

791
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: And that's the fun of it, right, what you what?

792
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: Exactly what you just said, that's the fun of it.

793
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: I'm right, you're wrong, and this thing that ultimately doesn't matter,

794
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: and we can and maybe that's all we need, you

795
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Sometimes I get mad at myself

796
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: for not having crazy because as a creator, you want

797
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: to be able to have as much have as many inputs,

798
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: so that your output is as interesting as possible. Sometimes

799
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: I get mad at myself for not having eclectic taste.

800
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: But maybe the fact that I don't like the Beatles

801
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: is my eclectic taste. Right. The group war doesn't speak

802
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: to me is part of my input and output. M

803
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: But you gotta give it all a chance. You gotta

804
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: at least listen to it.

805
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: Things can only be great with something opposing it. Yeah,

806
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: and we are the opposition. We are We are part

807
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: of that wall that allows something else to thrive, even

808
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 4: if I don't agree with it.

809
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we are good at bullshit. Boy, it's about

810
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: forty five minutes of not a goddamn thing being said.

811
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 4: We wasted a lot of time here, We had other plans,

812
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: none of it happened, But good conversation.

813
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 6: I feel, Yeah, I had a great time. I think

814
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 6: you know, we're probably gonna listen to some cowboy songs later.

815
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: You want to tell the people where they can find

816
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: you what cool shit you got going on?

817
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: Cool guy, Jokes eighty seven on Instagram, Patreon dot com

818
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 2: backslash David Bori by my special, it's so good you've

819
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: never seen. That's the great art you're looking for? Where

820
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: all the great art is? That's it. It's on Patreon

821
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: dot com backslash David Borie Birth of a Nation with

822
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: the G That's that's the high arm man. Find about

823
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: it what you've been looking for. And you don't even

824
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: have to get any references. You just have to know,

825
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, you know, my reference is easy. My show's

826
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: easy to watch.

827
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 4: I would say Birth of a Nation probably you have

828
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: to know something right up top from the title.

829
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to know what that is though, to

830
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: enjoy the special.

831
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: But then why why with the G?

832
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh? Because I think it's funny.

833
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's the I do have to go like, okay,

834
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: but why would he name it this to with the G?

835
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: And then you have to know the original there's layers

836
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 4: to it there is.

837
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: It's also like because to me it was if a

838
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: shitty artist brain in the way that the way The

839
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: Birth of a Nation was a moonshot and ultimately a

840
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: monumental push forward in what the genre was. I like

841
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: to think of my own thing is that it was

842
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: very narcissistic. It's very very evil, and not necessarily in

843
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: the whole game of comedy, but in what I do,

844
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 2: it's seemed like a moonshot and a huge leap forward

845
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: to what I was doing a few years. For years.

846
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. We're all ego maniacs. And I

847
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: felt the same way where I was like, yeah, it's

848
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: going to probably change the whole landscape.

849
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, And you have to. You have to

850
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: feel even if it doesn't who cares, right, Yeah, but

851
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: you do have to feel that way because it's like

852
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: a high bar. It's difficult to put something out in

853
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: an oversaturated market and still feel like you're doing something

854
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: artistically relevant. So it's like you gotta have that. You

855
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: gotta feel like nobody's ever gonna do some shit like

856
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: you did. And to be honest, I've never had foreseen

857
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: anybody do the top shot that I used in myself.

858
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: So maybe I am. Maybe I am as great as

859
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: I think I am. Spend the twelve dollars and find out.

860
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: Hey, man, nobody's nobody's flirting with old men on the

861
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: internet the way I do it. I never said I

862
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: haven't won it, and I dare y'all niggas to try.

863
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: You can follow me at Langston Kerman on all social

864
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: media platforms. You can watch my special it's called Bad Poetry.

865
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: It's on Netflix. You can see me live. I'll be

866
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: in Vancouver for the JFL Vancouver edition in February. You

867
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: can see me at Burlington in Burlington, Vermont in March.

868
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 4: I'll get those specific dates so that I can say

869
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: them more appropriately. But put figure it out. I don't know, motherfuckers,

870
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: ain't that or The internet is fast and pretty navigatable

871
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: at this point. And if you want to send us

872
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 4: your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you want

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