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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 1: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 3: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 3: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: I love him.

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Speaker 5: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 6: What we're gonna do is go back, go back into town,

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Speaker 6: get it back to speak with me.

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Speaker 5: And then kick the old and John level.

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Speaker 7: Is that so Josh Near, Hey, Jimngus, win for Josh

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Speaker 7: Near and get the summission the seventh coummission win enough

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Speaker 7: his career.

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Speaker 3: I am gonna do something about the two Stoner.

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Speaker 4: So I should have done a long time ago.

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Speaker 7: We got a record to two guys hanging around outside

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Speaker 7: of store selling.

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Speaker 3: Hot Sean Annak and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 8: TJ De Santa is trying to get me chills bringing

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Speaker 8: back those ken flow calls is what he's trying to do. Man,

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Speaker 8: that LA to Australia. Leg just never get shorter ken.

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Speaker 5: Flow, dude. It's brutal, man.

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Speaker 7: It really is like the cross country flight for me

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Speaker 7: is tough, right.

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Speaker 5: I haven't been doing a lot of.

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Speaker 7: International travel, but you did just do the cross country flight.

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 7: You you went Australia to LA and then you still

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Speaker 7: got to travel across the United States of America.

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Speaker 5: That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Dude.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you're still awake.

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Speaker 8: Hey, we have to fit it in because DeSantis has

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Speaker 8: uh in Victor FC duty, so he's got a bounce

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Speaker 8: on out of here. So hey, Monday night, we got

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Speaker 8: to get the show in the can. It's a big

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Speaker 8: week obviously recapping two thirty four and spinning this thing

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Speaker 8: ahead to Phoenix. Good to be back the United States

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Speaker 8: of America, though, I mean, Australia is one of the

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Speaker 8: most beautiful places in the world. I think we'd all

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Speaker 8: go a lot more often if it wasn't so goddamn

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Speaker 8: far away. To travel that far to do a live

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Speaker 8: event is is it insanity? I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 8: It's just to go and make that quick turn. If

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Speaker 8: extend the trip is bananas, but it is going to

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Speaker 8: be with you. At is episode one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 8: of the Antikin Florin Podcast. Monday Night, the eleventh of

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Speaker 8: February twenty nineteen, where we are. This is the first

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Speaker 8: true primetime show in the history of the Anakin Florin Podcast.

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Speaker 8: We teased it a few weeks ago when long ago

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Speaker 8: was you early bird dinner time for the sixty plus crowd,

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Speaker 8: but this is the first true primetime episode. What a

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Speaker 8: crazy week flow, you know, what a crazy fight day.

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Speaker 8: So we've had a lot of different circumstances, and I

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Speaker 8: think our entire UFC staff, the live production team and

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Speaker 5: Unforeseen circumstances.

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Speaker 8: I think it was UFC two Q thirteen when Amanda

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Speaker 8: Noon has had to pull out day of. But this

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Speaker 8: situation with Robert Whittaker, given how few hours there were

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Speaker 8: I know he had a pretty serious infection, Kenful not

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Speaker 8: almost as surely by now, you know that he was

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Speaker 8: gaslamon fight day. And here was the statement from Whittaker's team.

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Speaker 8: Last night, roughly nine pm, Rob began feeling intense abdominal

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking about, first of all, the circumstances of that.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking about the pain involved with something like that,

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Speaker 7: having to make that decision. I'm thinking about the UFC

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Speaker 5: This is terrible.

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Speaker 7: Robert Whittaker was a guy that really could have created

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Speaker 7: Just was never given the opportunity. And I remember I

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Speaker 7: buddies texted me said, Hey, the Whittaker fight is off.

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Speaker 7: I said, what are you joking? He said, yep, looks

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Speaker 8: So Rob's statement went on to say up until five

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Speaker 8: what is to come. Thanks to the UFC, Kelvin and

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Speaker 8: this process, but you know, sat there banging keys redoing

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Speaker 5: But I don't know. You never know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we heard these things with brock Lesner and

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Speaker 7: he had something very different with diverticulitis. But these are

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Speaker 7: I hope that he's okay and able to fight like

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Speaker 5: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 7: Man, any time there's an injury, and there's an injury

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Speaker 7: By all accounts, everyone was saying that this was the

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Speaker 8: And of course, Calvin Gasolom got hold of Henry Sahudo's belt.

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Speaker 8: You're dealing with a lot of different variables internationally for

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Speaker 7: It's a very hard thing to deal with. You know,

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Speaker 7: He had traveled all the way to Australia, put in

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Speaker 8: And we will never know if they had met in

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Speaker 5: But an outstanding fight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And listen, these are situations for fighters. Sometimes

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Speaker 5: He'll be forty four in April. Oh my god, all right,

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Speaker 7: He's he's just not moving the way he used to. Okay,

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Speaker 5: He was trying to lure him out.

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Speaker 7: He utilized every veteran trick he could in the book

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Speaker 7: It wasn't my favorite fight, but it was a solid

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Speaker 8: But that's him and being rhythmic and being a fighter

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Speaker 8: I'm not not trying to denigrate the power, but he's

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Speaker 8: It's not There's a different tempo to aut of Sonya's striking,

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Speaker 5: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: First, would.

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Speaker 7: Or was it Israel out of Sonia's style to kind

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Speaker 5: He did what he needed to do. To get the win.

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Speaker 7: Make no mistake about it, that is still Anderson Silva

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Speaker 7: He's still a very dangerous man. The last thing to

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Speaker 8: You're right about his risk management, and even at our

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: He is completely in a flow like state.

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Speaker 7: I had that decision making power in the UFC. I mean, listen,

440
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 7: this is a guy that I think knows how to

441
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 7: entertain He's got an exciting style there. It's clear this

442
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 7: guy could be a superstar in this sport. He's a

443
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 7: good looking kid, you know, knows how to get on

444
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 7: a mic and excite the crowd. And I think he

445
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 7: just is going to be a very exciting fighter moving

446
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,959
Speaker 7: forward and could very well be a champion in his

447
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 7: next fight too. He could get the title shot depending

448
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 7: on what happens timing wise with Whittaker in his recovery.

449
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 8: Right, No, I certainly if Whittaker is looking at five

450
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 8: six months. And I know fans hate the interim championships,

451
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 8: but there's a purpose to it. You just have to

452
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 8: understand that they do it. Whether it's to headline a

453
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 8: card or to try to keep a division going empty

454
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 8: belt it may be, but they do serve more of

455
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 8: a purpose than I think a lot of people realize.

456
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 8: And certainly Atta Signi sold a lot of tickets. I

457
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 8: can't quantify how many. Maybe he was responsible for versus Whitaker,

458
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 8: but Atta Signi certainly did his part in making the

459
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 8: show a huge success. And obviously those crowds, Kenny, you've

460
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 8: called fights in front of them, you know, they're peds

461
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 8: for announcers.

462
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 5: So that was a big component of the night as well.

463
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Speaker 8: So we'll get to landover and out of time permitting,

464
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Speaker 8: But I want to get to Ricky Simone a winner

465
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Speaker 8: on the main card over Ronie ya Ya unanimous decision

466
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 8: thirty to twenty seven times two and a thirty to

467
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 8: twenty five, and there I like the thirty to twenty

468
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 8: five just because under the new scoring system, he's reading

469
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 8: the rules the new way that a ten eight doesn't

470
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 8: have to be five minutes of total domination. We're trying

471
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 8: to have the judges give out more liberal ten eights,

472
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 8: and certainly one of the judges in this situation certainly

473
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 8: got that message. But I just thought this was a

474
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 8: great martial arts game plan and approached by Ricky Simone

475
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 8: against a very hungry and motivated Ronni Yaya who had

476
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 8: a lot of momentum, as close to contention as he

477
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 8: had ever been. And I just thought it was a

478
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 8: real clean performance against Simone made sure to not get

479
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Speaker 8: any in any bad spots. He's going to be ranked

480
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 8: next week and I'm excited to see what the Mulletman

481
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 8: can do now moving forward.

482
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 7: Listen, I think Simone was smart to try not to

483
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 7: go to the mat with with yeah, yea. I thought

484
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 7: that he did a good job of, you know, stopping

485
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 7: any of those attempts. He basically made it a brawl

486
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 7: where he would thrive in that kind of environment. It

487
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 7: was still a little bit risky for him. That is

488
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 7: kind of his style. Yeah, it's not the style of

489
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 7: Hanni though, And for Hanni, Ronnie, what are I know

490
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 7: call for? So for Ronnie, you know, I was a

491
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 7: little disappointed. I didn't think he needed to do that

492
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 7: kind of fight. I thought that he should have been

493
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 7: shooting in from a hell of a lot closer at

494
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 7: least trying to get, you know, a little bit closer

495
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 7: to Ricky before he decided to shoot. He was shooting

496
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 7: from way too far away, and then he was just

497
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 7: kind of just brawling. And yeah, you know, he definitely

498
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 7: hurt Ricky a couple times and had some good moments

499
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 7: in that fight, but he was eating a lot of shots.

500
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 5: Man, he was eating a lot of shots.

501
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 7: And to me, it seemed like this was a guy

502
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 7: that was just not prepared to stand up for fifteen

503
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 7: minutes against Ricky Simone. And that's what it seemed like.

504
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 7: It seemed like he went into freak out mode. I'm

505
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 7: gonna throw hands as hard and fast as I can

506
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 7: and see what happens. And when you when you're forced

507
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 7: to do that in mixed martial arts, man, sometimes it

508
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 7: works out. But to me, it wasn't a display of

509
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 7: high level mixed martial arts. I thought Ricky Simone kind

510
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 7: of thrived in that kind of environment and it was unfortunate.

511
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 7: I don't know how far Ricky Simone is gonna go

512
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 7: in that division. You know, I don't see him being

513
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 7: a champion, to be honest, but he is a tough

514
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 7: guy that you rely on to be exciting and not

515
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 7: be afraid of any fighter that's in front of him.

516
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 8: It's the wrong time to want to be bantam waight champion.

517
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 8: I mean, that division has never been more ridiculty and

518
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 8: the top twenty is insane, right, But Ricky SIMOONI finnd

519
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 8: himself somewhere in that top fifteen, and you're right, not

520
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 8: a lot of variants on the takedown attempts from Ranni Yaya,

521
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 8: but the part of the backstory with Fabiano Scherner Gracie

522
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 8: Baja Portland right. He had refereed a lot of Yaya's

523
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 8: jiu jitsu matches and they just seemed like they knew

524
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 8: exactly what type of fight that they were going to get.

525
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 8: And I think that was sort of my biggest takeaway,

526
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 8: And maybe I didn't sum it up all that well,

527
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 8: but I felt like just they just seemed to know

528
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 8: exactly what was coming in, exactly what type of fight

529
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 8: Yaya was gonna present them. And not a lot of

530
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 8: infight adjustments obviously from our man Pahoopa and Rana Yaya,

531
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 8: but I think they were just up against it so

532
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 8: a lot we got to get to long ago here.

533
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 8: Jimmy Krute obviously a big performance for him. Did you

534
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 8: see that stoppage from Mark Goddard? You know, Sam Alvi

535
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 8: was super about the stoppage in some part because Alvi's

536
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 8: last fight against Jjario Nogera, Mark Otter was the refereeing

537
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 8: in question, and he felt like that was a premature

538
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 8: stoppage as well. Dana White obviously was critical of Mark

539
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 8: Goddard in this setting. Your thoughts on on CREWP big

540
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 8: picture and also the stoppage, if you'd be.

541
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 7: So kind, I'm pissed because I picked Alvi to win.

542
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 7: Tell you, I'll be honest with you, Anik, that was bullshit. No, listen,

543
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 7: I think that man. When I saw it, I said,

544
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 7: you gotta let Alvi just try just a little bit more.

545
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 7: Was he hurt when he got cracked on the inside

546
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 7: one hundred percent?

547
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, he was not right.

548
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 7: He went for some kind of a single and kind

549
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 7: of fell to his back, and he was clearly not

550
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 7: all the way there. But when Goddard stopped the fight,

551
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 7: to me, Alvi seemed like he had his wits back.

552
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 5: He seemed like he had his feet underneath him.

553
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 7: He seemed like he was he knew exactly where he was,

554
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 7: what he was doing, He had his balance back. So

555
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 7: I think think it was a premature stoppage in the

556
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 7: moment that he got hurt.

557
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 5: If he stopped it at that point when he was taking.

558
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 7: Beating on him, maybe a few seconds before that, it

559
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 7: would have looked a little bit better. But to let

560
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 7: him go on and then stop it at that point

561
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 7: when sam Alvi was just getting back into the fight

562
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 7: and was fine, it just looked a little off.

563
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: And that's a tough call. That that is a tough call.

564
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 7: I have the benefit of looking at at Alvi after

565
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 7: he gets back up right and looking at all the situation,

566
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 7: all the circumstances around the situation, saying that was an

567
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 7: early stoppage in the moment, maybe I would have done

568
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 7: the same thing, but uh, you know, being being on

569
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 7: the outside looking in, it was a little early from

570
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 7: Gardard and he's typically a very good referee, but that

571
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 7: was a little premature, and I think you put it

572
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 7: into context with Alvi actually had a problem with Guardard

573
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 7: reving his fight prior to the prior to the match.

574
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, and that's as angry as Sam Alvi has ever,

575
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 8: you know, all right, thing and only thirty seconds because

576
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 8: Longo is super sensitive these days about when we get

577
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 8: to him on the phone. In terms of this two

578
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 8: hundred and five pound division, okay, and you know, I

579
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 8: get way too excited about guys, right, but Jimmy Crute

580
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 8: is ten and zero. I think Alexander Rockitch is the

581
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 8: name that a lot of people talk about as the

582
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 8: light heavyweight prospect that maybe doesn't have the number next

583
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 8: to his Namber is in the top five. Guy that

584
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 8: could really make a run of the championship is Johnny Walker.

585
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 8: Johnny Walker Blue. I think he's a light heavyweight as well.

586
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 5: You know, Dominic Rayes certainly should be in that discussion.

587
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

588
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 8: I'm getting a little bit excited about light heavyweight, that's

589
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 8: all I'm saying.

590
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: No, and it's good. Listen, two hundred and five pounds.

591
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 7: They need more talent, and I think Jimmy Crute is

592
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 7: one of those guys who is a developing talent.

593
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: Do I put him up there with those guys yet?

594
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 5: I don't see that yet.

595
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 7: He's he's so he's so young, but listen, he has

596
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 7: plenty of time to develop. And the fact that he's

597
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 7: twenty two years old in the UFC, I still putting

598
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 7: it all together. I think that's exciting for a lot

599
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 7: of the guys, you know, and I think he is

600
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 7: going to add some depth in the future for short

601
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 7: to a five.

602
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: And we were like twenty two when he was born.

603
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 8: You know, it's crazy, crazy, awful. We're old as f

604
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 8: Thankfully we're not old as long Ago.

605
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 5: Let's get to Ray.

606
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

607
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this.

608
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: That's what I want, the Ray Long Minute. Ray Long

609
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: the John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

610
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 8: Well, Ray Longo is not a marijuana guy. But the

611
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 8: last time we had him on the show around six

612
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 8: pm Eastern time. He sounded like he had been ripping

613
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 8: bong hits for three hours. It's eight thirty five pm

614
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 8: Eastern tonight. But I think Longo's just been training, so

615
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 8: he's probably got a little extra pep in his step.

616
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 8: Raymond o'clock right now, I know you're running off pure

617
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 8: You're running off pure adrenaline again this week from the

618
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 8: fights the other night. You know, I think some people

619
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 8: who listen to the opening segment are thinking, I don't

620
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 8: know what that dude's running on.

621
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: But no, yeah, we know. I get just get excited

622
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 5: to talk to you.

623
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm hurting for certain you know, I put

624
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 8: my kids to bed for.

625
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 7: The steam of the Patriots. Win has been long gone.

626
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 7: It's gone.

627
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: Well.

628
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: I got nothing, he's got nothing.

629
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: Even he pulling the five hound energy and the hydroxy

630
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: cuts can't bring hydroxylaw.

631
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 8: I haven't taken hydroxy cut since the nineteen nineties.

632
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 5: Might have to go pick some up. Might have to

633
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: go pick some up for a long drive.

634
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 8: Yeah really, New England thirteen, Los Angeles three, So Ray

635
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 8: A lot to get to with you, But I want

636
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 8: to start with this Whitaker Gastolm situation. You know, I

637
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 8: it's hard for all parties involved that certainly for Robert

638
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 8: it's scary. I mean, what do you think that in

639
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 8: your limited medical knowledge. I mean, I just worry about

640
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 8: the long term ramifications of an injury like this to

641
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 8: the insides.

642
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean, I don't know enough about it, but

643
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: I mean it's not it wasn't your regular hernia like

644
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: he kind of said, Uh, I mean that's really what

645
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: a hernia is. Your organs pushed through the you know,

646
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: the wooly his stomach. I guess, but uh, you know,

647
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be fine with that. But you

648
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: you hit a key key element limited amount of medical knowledge.

649
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, all right, Well maybe I'm making too much, but.

650
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's going to be okay.

651
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's unfortunately I was really looking forward

652
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 4: to that fight, but uh really wish the guy is

653
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: speedy recovery and I think he's going to be back

654
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, like again, I don't know. I

655
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Speaker 4: think it was just if it came out and he

656
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Speaker 4: got hit there, he was going to be in trouble.

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Speaker 4: But I mean a lot of people have similar type

658
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Speaker 4: of hernias, and I think they're okay. So but again

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Speaker 4: I'm let me qualify that by saying I have absolutely

660
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Speaker 4: no fucking idea what I'm talking about, but hopefully, hopefully,

661
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Speaker 4: hopefully the guy's okay.

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Speaker 8: I pretend that Kenny is a doctor and put him

663
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Speaker 8: on the spot, you know, at all these differences.

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Speaker 4: And he comes from but he does come from medical lineage,

665
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Speaker 4: so anymore.

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Speaker 7: But I'm opening up my own doctors.

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Speaker 4: Off, what did what did your dad have to say

668
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Speaker 4: about that anything?

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Speaker 5: I didn't ask him anything about it. I got to

670
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Speaker 5: ask him though. I gotta.

671
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Speaker 7: We should have we should have him as a medical expert.

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Speaker 7: We'll see anybody. Yeah, I mean doctor doctor just went

673
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Speaker 7: doctor Florian minute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, doctor Florian minute.

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Speaker 4: Don't call you biggest thing.

676
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Speaker 5: Yes he does. He loves it. He likes all the volume.

677
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Speaker 4: Ray.

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Speaker 8: If we don't call you next week and it's the

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Speaker 8: doctor Gus Florian minute, just don't be upset.

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Speaker 4: So my father's name was August, so they have something

681
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Speaker 4: to come. Yeah, it's awesome. So it's crazy.

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Speaker 8: If you're Kelvin Gastolon and his coaches, right, you put

683
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Speaker 8: in the training camp of your life.

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Speaker 5: You hope this title shot will come around again.

685
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Speaker 8: But uh, I got to think that's the height of deflation,

686
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Speaker 8: right He maybe even worse than a loss at times?

687
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Speaker 5: Could you only get the chance?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, I like Kelvin Man. I wish the best

690
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Speaker 4: for him. Uh. Look, it's these things are unfortunate, but

691
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Speaker 4: you know he can't. What are you gonna do? I mean,

692
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Speaker 4: they're not that the racks of God, but they're pretty close.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the only thing I guess, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what was the question, like, what does

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Speaker 4: he do now? With?

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Speaker 5: Well, no, not necessarily what does he do?

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Speaker 8: But I mean any circumstances in your career that you

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Speaker 8: can draw a parallel I mean, fight day, you just

699
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Speaker 8: I mean it's hey in the barn doesn't even begin

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Speaker 8: to describe it.

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Speaker 5: He's been in Australia for two weeks.

702
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Speaker 8: You know, you build yourself up to this one night,

703
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Speaker 8: and maybe he thought he was gonna beat Whitaker this night.

704
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Speaker 8: And maybe even if the shot does come around in

705
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Speaker 8: five months, he's not as in as great a position

706
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Speaker 8: for whatever reason, to take advantage.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I would have a hard time

708
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Speaker 5: with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think he's got a champion mindset. I

710
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Speaker 4: do think he's gonna be fine, and I think this

711
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: this fight will happen within three months, So I think

712
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Speaker 4: I think he did. I mean, if there's the and

713
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Speaker 4: they I hope they do the right thing and they

714
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Speaker 4: they really allow this fight to go on and don't

715
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Speaker 4: put somebody else in there, you know. So but yeah,

716
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Speaker 4: that that that whole thing was unforant. I mean, everybody

717
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: was looking forward to that fight. Even the buzz in

718
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Speaker 4: the gym was who thought Whittaker was gonna win? Who

719
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 4: took ask him? I haven't even heard that in a while. So, uh,

720
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Speaker 4: when I found out, it was kind of he was,

721
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Speaker 4: you know, I was really looking forward to that.

722
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Speaker 7: But yeah, right, I agree, man, it's a fantastic fight

723
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Speaker 7: and I hope we see it soon.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 7: Listen, Uh, there's another fantastic fight between Jimmy Rivera and

726
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Speaker 7: your guy, Al Joe.

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Speaker 5: How's he feel? How's he feeling? Man? And uh, when

728
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Speaker 5: do you guys head out?

729
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: Everything's looking good. He's I'm gonna wrap it up with

730
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Speaker 4: him tomorrow and then he's gonna go out there with

731
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Speaker 4: I Quinton on Wednesday, and uh, I get out there

732
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: Friday with Matt. So he's been uh him and now

733
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: just work great together. And you know, when Al's fighting,

734
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 4: al Joe is a great third corner guy, and when

735
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: al Jo's fighting, I Quin is a great third quarter guy.

736
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Speaker 4: I love both of those guys and really excited for

737
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Speaker 4: ral Joe and he's had a good camp and yeah,

738
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: it's just uh, I can't wait for Sunday Night.

739
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 5: And so was I quit helping him out for this fight?

740
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Speaker 7: Then? Was he helping him kind of mimic the style

741
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 7: of Jimmy Rivera because I think not really.

742
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he drilled and we had other sporting he was

743
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 4: a little shorter than now. Yeah, that was pretty quick

744
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, boxing oriented and but he did

745
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: did do a lot of drilling without nice. But I

746
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: don't think I was like kind of mimicking then He's

747
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 4: just want to get movement in and you know, work

748
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Speaker 4: some other stuff.

749
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Speaker 8: Gotcha, Alja man sterling Jimmy Rivera this Sunday Night the

750
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Speaker 8: featured prelim fight on ESPN. It's going to do a

751
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 8: huge number in that slot. I think it's good for

752
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 8: you guys and Kenny. I have written down to ask

753
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 8: Ray today, what can you tell me that I can

754
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 8: actually use on the broadcast, right because long.

755
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Speaker 5: Ago he keeps right?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, the I acquit the nugget that you just

757
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 8: drew out of him is actually something I can use

758
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Speaker 8: on the broadcast.

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00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 4: So try Well, then you got there. There you go,

760
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: you have it. I think that's about.

761
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: As much as I am water rock this guy.

762
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty bad. Well give me a hint

763
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: as just something you would like to.

764
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 8: All right, So here, I'll pretend you're just a run

765
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Speaker 8: of the mill guests. I'll say Ray Longo podcast. All right,

766
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 8: So you got Jimmyrivera. He's twenty two and two, right,

767
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 8: He's built like the side of a backyard shed. Obviously

768
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 8: he presents some challenges. There's a lot of film on

769
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 8: the guy. Has al Joe fought anybody similar?

770
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: I think the closest guy he's forought is what's his

771
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: name was? Suns? You know, they're both short sockey guys,

772
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: and I think they have very similar styles.

773
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 8: Is this like a Jersey versus New York thing? Or

774
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 8: are we not going too deep into that tri state rockery?

775
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 5: How?

776
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 7: How how angry is Matt Sarah at Jimmy Rivera for

777
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 7: taking his nickname and El Tror or El Terror and

778
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 7: then the Terror. I mean, come on, really, really, that's

779
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 7: the only nickname available out there.

780
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: You gotta take Matt Sarah's.

781
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: Uh he likes, he likes Jimmy. I think he had

782
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: him on the show a couple of weeks ago. But

783
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: uh no, it's all good. These these guys have been,

784
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: you know, bitching at each other back and forth. They're

785
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: always it's funny. We did the show, Me and my

786
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: partner did a show with in New York City, Uh

787
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: Friday night, Al Joe State back to Trade. But Jimmy

788
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: showed up, and I thought that was gonna be like

789
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of a problem because they're always They're

790
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: both really nice guys, but sometimes some of these ship

791
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: is really funny. So I don't know, it's all good.

792
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: It should be a great, great fight. Uh it's a

793
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: long time over due. They were supposed to each other,

794
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 4: I thinky years ago when they were both just getting started.

795
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 4: So I think they're fighting each other at the right time.

796
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 8: All right, we'll get you out of here on this.

797
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 8: So you are plus one hundred dollars. You had Kelvin

798
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 8: Gaston to win by TKO, but that fight obviously did

799
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 8: not happen. So this week it is Kane Velaskez and

800
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 8: Francis and Gano in the main event. Obviously, if Al

801
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 8: Joe wins at plus one forty, you get fifty bucks.

802
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 8: When one of your guys wins, you get another fifty bucks.

803
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 8: When one of your guys gets a finish of any kind,

804
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 8: even if it's a submission and not a knockout ray,

805
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 8: that's still going your way.

806
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: So a lot of money making opportunities.

807
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 8: Francis and Ghanu two to one favorite against Kane Velaskez,

808
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 8: who hasn't foughts into UFC two hundred in twenty sixteen.

809
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: Who do you like in the heavyweight main event?

810
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Who's the favorite in that fight?

811
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 8: Francis in Ghanu excuse me as Kane favorite? Excuse me

812
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Speaker 8: kine Is favorite?

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00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: Sorry crow, I'm sorry. I was.

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Speaker 8: Minus one ninety five. Francis Ghanu plus one sixty five.

815
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 8: I beg your pardon.

816
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Kane Velasquais gets the job, but always one

817
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 4: of my favorite fighters, and I think the whole world

818
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: knows what the other guys that chilly seal is and

819
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,840
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Speaker 8: All right, you get one hundred bucks of cane beats

821
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 8: in Ghanu and then opportunities with Al Joe as well.

822
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 8: All right, man, look forward to seeing you there. I

823
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 8: get it on Friday, and I wish all the best.

824
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 8: Hope the cut goes well, and we'll see you guys Saturday.

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00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: If hour sooner, I will see you. Then. My man

826
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,399
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Speaker 8: dulca tones of TJ. DeSantis on the call, So make

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Speaker 8: sure you check that out. Uh So, Team Florya let

874
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 8: it seven to five. Going into UFC two thirty four,

875
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 8: you went head to head with podcast listener Flees repping

876
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 8: Team Annick. He gets the first win of the year

877
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 8: for Team Annick. Nowrows to Margins three to two. We'll

878
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 8: take it, but it's nine to eight. We transition to

879
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Speaker 8: UFC Fight Night and Ghanu versus VELAZQZ with us to

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Speaker 8: make pick today. Shane Terror Sugar Shane. How goes the

881
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 8: battle man?

882
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 9: I'm doing great. I like the nickname.

883
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 8: Thank you, Sugar Shane. Did I get the surname correct, Tara?

884
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's it's just that nickname I've had for

885
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 9: a while.

886
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: You got it, You got it perfect, all.

887
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 5: Right, Sugar Shane.

888
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 8: First fight for us today is going to be Jimmy

889
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 8: Rivera al Jamaine Sterling. We just touched on it briefly

890
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 8: with Ray Longo. Rivera the favorite here minus one sixty five.

891
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 8: Al Joe comes back at plus one p forty. So

892
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 8: Rivera coming off a win, now put that Marlin, but

893
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 8: I set back behind him unanimous decision win over John

894
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 8: Dodson in September twenty two and two overall six and

895
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 8: one in the UFC and the favorite here, Shane.

896
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 5: What who do you like, Jimmy Rivera or al Jamaine Sterl.

897
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 9: This is definitely an interesting fight. I think al Jamine

898
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 9: Sterling is probably gonna take this one away.

899
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: I like Jimmy.

900
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 9: Rivera's Karai style and the Tiger Schulman background that he has.

901
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 9: What I think his problem is that he doesn't he

902
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 9: doesn't finish fights very often. He doesn't like pull the

903
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 9: trigger a lot, and most of his wins come via decision,

904
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 9: and Al Joe is is a finisher. He likes to

905
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 9: we kind of know his plane. He likes to take

906
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 9: these down. He likes to get him, get on their back,

907
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 9: choke him out, that kind of stuff. So I think

908
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 9: he's going to use that that aggression He's gonna get

909
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 9: Jimmy Rivera down. He's gonna use his striking to set

910
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 9: up his grappling, and his wrestling is gonna get him down,

911
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 9: and he's just gonna transition, transition him to his BJJ.

912
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 9: I think personally, Al Joe is probably gonna win at

913
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 9: the end of the second round with a probably your

914
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 9: naked choke.

915
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 8: I can't flow Al Joe plus one forty for Shane,

916
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 8: He's won two in a row, including that modified knee

917
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 8: bar against Cody Stamen at UFC two twenty eight. Your

918
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 8: thoughts on Sterling as a plus one forty dog against

919
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 8: Jimmy Rivera.

920
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 7: I think Sterling has been looking really sharp lately. I

921
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 7: just think that you know Rivera with that conservative style.

922
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Shane.

923
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 7: I think that for Rivera, he's not I don't think

924
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 7: he's gonna pull the trigger button in a good way.

925
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna look to try to outpoint Sterling,

926
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 7: not really engage in any dangerous exchanges or he should

927
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 7: in any way, just try to keep Sterling on the outside.

928
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 7: And the problem is Sterling's grappling, I think is very

929
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 7: solid and he's very dangerous there and if he can

930
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 7: take it to the matt especially if he gets on

931
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 7: top of Rivera, I think Sterling will definitely finish him.

932
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: I just don't see it happening.

933
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 7: I think Rivera can wrestle well enough to try to

934
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 7: prevent that from happening. Stop those takedowns, keep it on

935
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 7: the feet, and when Sterling goes to exchange sometimes he

936
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 7: leaves his chin out there in a very dangerous spot,

937
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 7: and I feel like either Rivera is going to catch

938
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 7: him as he comes forward to throw a combo, or

939
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 7: it's gonna be Rivera just kind of outpointing him round

940
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 7: by round, not being the most exciting fight, but him

941
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 7: doing enough to get the decision win.

942
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 4: All right.

943
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 8: Next up Shane Featherweight division Miles Jerry the minus one

944
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 8: eighty five favorite against Andre Touchy Pheelly Phelly comes back

945
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 8: at plus one point fifty five.

946
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 5: Shane, what do you think?

947
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 9: I think this is a kind of an interesting fight.

948
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 9: I think both dudes sort of have the wrestling background. Obviously,

949
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 9: Andre peelies h a Team Alpha Male, so those wrestling

950
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 9: should be on point and he should probably have the

951
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 9: bestling advantage over Minles Jury. But Jury is a Brazilian

952
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 9: jiu jitsu black belt, and I think overall his grappling

953
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 9: is a little bit better, especially now that he's training

954
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 9: at TriStar. I'm probably gonna say this a couple of times,

955
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 9: but I really like how some of these fights have

956
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 9: sort of well known teams going against each other, Like

957
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 9: this one's kind of like Alpha Male versus TriStar. So

958
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 9: that's kind of intriguing for me. And I think because

959
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 9: Frost of the Hobby has such good ground skills, I

960
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 9: think Jury is definitely gonna uh outcross Feely that way.

961
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 9: Striking wise, I think they're kind of similar. I don't know,

962
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 9: like I feel kind of bad saying this. I'm not

963
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 9: super impressed with Andre Pheeley's last two fights. He he

964
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 9: does a lot of decisions, He's he's He's another one

965
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 9: of those dudes that's just kind of not great at finishing,

966
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 9: kind of like, can you orian, Oh, something that is

967
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 9: interesting about these dudes for this division. They both are

968
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 9: really tall, and they both have a lot of reach,

969
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 9: and both pretty skinny, kind of like kind of like

970
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 9: Mac Holloway. So I think that'll be an interesting thing.

971
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 9: They don't often fight dudes that are dudes like each

972
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 9: other like that, and I think if if Andre Peeley

973
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 9: does want to went to win this fight. He needs

974
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 9: to outstrike Jury, uh and maybe maybe kind of out

975
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 9: stay on the outside, just kind of work around him,

976
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 9: sort of like he did with the Artum Wilbot's fight,

977
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 9: even though Wilbo has like two inch long arms. But otherwise,

978
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 9: I think Miles Jerry is just going to outclass feely

979
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 9: throughout the whole fight, and he's just going to take

980
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 9: it by decision.

981
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 8: Interesting hearing from a fan who sort of likes the

982
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 8: team versus team angle. You know, we talk so much

983
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 8: about the individual athletes, and rightfully so, but it's interesting

984
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 8: to hear from Shane who seems to to like some

985
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 8: of that backdrop to a fight.

986
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: Ken flow.

987
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 8: Jury's drop three of his last five, finished of course

988
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 8: by the now retired Chad Mendez. That was Boys the

989
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 8: Idaho back in July. I feel he a little up

990
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 8: and down in the UFC, has had some moments. The

991
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 8: Gabriel Benitez knockout comes to mind. He's coming off of

992
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 8: split this, his loss to Michael the Menis Johnson back

993
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 8: in August, and he's the plus one fifty five underdog

994
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 8: here against Miles Jerry Kidd.

995
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think both these guys have been pretty inconsistent.

996
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 7: I think that the way that they match up, I

997
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 7: think Miles Jury has the advantage here. Phelly a little

998
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 7: bit more unorthodox, but I think he moves a little

999
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 7: bit better.

1000
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 5: He moves a lot better laterally.

1001
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 7: I think Jury probably has the cleaner skills overall. I

1002
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 7: think he's definitely more dangerous on the mat. I'll go

1003
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 7: with Jury here for the win, all right.

1004
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 8: Next up, good matchup at welterweight Vicente Luk and Brian Barberina.

1005
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 8: I think they might get into it at the way

1006
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 8: in as well home game for the MMA Labs. Barberina

1007
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 8: he is the plus two point eighty underdog here Luke

1008
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 8: entrenched as the minus three to fifty favorite.

1009
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: Shane Luk or Barberina for.

1010
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 9: You, I'm actually really excited this fight.

1011
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1012
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 9: This one and one or two others I think are going.

1013
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: To be really, really great.

1014
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 9: I think this fight has a possible performance of a

1015
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 9: night all over it for whoever wins. Personally, I think

1016
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 9: Vicente Luk is gonna win this fight. He's probably gonna

1017
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 9: do it near the end of the fight. Maybe they're

1018
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 9: devel with the submission, but I think that Brian Barberina

1019
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 9: is I mean, obviously the odd to have him as

1020
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 9: the underdog, but I think because of that, h he

1021
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 9: has a really good chance of pulling this one out

1022
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 9: the luk. The dude's really really good. He's got good striking,

1023
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 9: he's got power, his ground game is really great, he's

1024
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 9: got great dj J. I think he's a I think

1025
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 9: he's a brown belt. But Brian Barberina, man, that.

1026
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 4: Dude fucking hits really hard. If he if he.

1027
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 9: Can kind of stay on outside a little bit, he

1028
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 9: has a really good chance of knocking out Vicente. I

1029
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 9: think I had one more note about that. Oh so,

1030
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 9: I think the the overall qual fighters that Brian Barberina

1031
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 9: has fought and the USC is a little bit better

1032
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 9: than what the Sente has has fought. And I think

1033
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 9: that experience, his his experience with those more elite level

1034
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 9: fighters actually gives him a really good chance. And I

1035
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 9: kind of wish to Oz were a little bit closer.

1036
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 9: But like I said, I think I think Vincente is gonna, uh,

1037
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 9: he's gonna pull this now. He's he's on a he's

1038
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 9: on a streak, and that dude's just he's a fucking

1039
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 9: he's a killer.

1040
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 5: Man can flow.

1041
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 8: Luke has won three straight, six of his last seven,

1042
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 8: and I think most saliently all of them finishes just

1043
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 8: puts guys away.

1044
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1045
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 8: Most recently knocked out Chad Laprize. Then Jalen Turner at

1046
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 8: UFC two twenty nine in October. Barberina also a finisher.

1047
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 8: He's got some pop stop both ellen Burger brothers. Jake

1048
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 8: in August good for his fifth UFC win plus two

1049
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 8: to eighty Uh seems to be a swollen price. The

1050
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 8: question is is that enough to entice the flow to

1051
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 8: the Barberina side.

1052
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 7: For some reason, I see like sticky notes all over

1053
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 7: Shane's computer. All it just kind of like, all right,

1054
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 7: Luke got him a little picture of him, like a

1055
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 7: stick figure of Luke up there no Turbeth. All right,

1056
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 7: well listen, I'm gonna go with Luke. I think that

1057
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 7: he is the more dangerous fighter. I think Barbarina. Yes,

1058
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 7: he does hit hard. He has an excellent chin as well.

1059
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 7: I don't see him being particularly skillful though, you know,

1060
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 7: but he is a tough guy. And if Luke decides

1061
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 7: to kind of get crazy and brawl, I agree with

1062
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 7: Shane that he basically ups his chances of getting knocked out.

1063
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 7: So Luk has to be very careful in this fight.

1064
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 7: He's got to use his leg his leg game, keep

1065
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 7: Barbarina on the outside and then possibly get to a

1066
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 7: tie clinch or look for a takedown we'll have where

1067
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 7: he can have the advantage if he can put Barbarina

1068
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 7: on his back.

1069
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 5: I think Luk is gonna win this one all right.

1070
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 8: Next up, with no shortage of hype behind him, Crone

1071
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 8: Gracie making his UFC debut. He will do so as

1072
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 8: a minus three thirty favorite against the UFC tested and

1073
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 8: well traveled Alex Casras.

1074
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 5: He comes back plus two sixty five. Sh And who

1075
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 5: do you like here?

1076
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: Man?

1077
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 9: I am so excited to see Chrome Gracie come back,

1078
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 9: or I'm slaying Chrome Gracy to come to the USC.

1079
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 9: For me, this is super super interesting because this is

1080
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 9: the first Gracie we've seen in the USC in a while.

1081
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 9: You know, Niemi Gracie is over in Bellatore, which is great,

1082
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 9: but I think he's I think he was married in

1083
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 9: I don't think he's technically like a an actual Gracy.

1084
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 9: So it's really cool to see like a young Gracy

1085
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 9: coming in and he's debuting on the main card, which

1086
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 9: I think is really really big. It's really exciting for

1087
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 9: him fight wise itself. I think it's really interesting that

1088
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 9: it's too South Pause. I don't think Kron has a

1089
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 9: ton of experience fighting other South Pause, unlike Alex Caceras,

1090
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 9: who has literally six times the fighting experience that Cron has,

1091
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 9: and most of Casarra's opponents are I was, in my opinion,

1092
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 9: a much higher level than some of the dudes that

1093
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 9: Chrohne was fighting.

1094
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

1095
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 9: Pick wise, I think Krone is probably gonna win in

1096
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 9: this fight. He does take a lot of damage when

1097
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 9: you're doing stand up, and his stand up is okay.

1098
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 9: But I think what he's gonna do is probably near

1099
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 9: the end of the first round, he's going to get

1100
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 9: Alex down and he's probably gonna take him out with

1101
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 9: a renaked choke. I think the biggest variable for this

1102
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 9: fight is going to be Cron adjusting to the new

1103
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 9: rules and rising. They have the ten minute first round

1104
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 9: and the two five minute rounds after that, so I

1105
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 9: think him adjusting to the three five minute rounds is

1106
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 9: going to be probably his biggest problem.

1107
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 8: Can flow Cassarra's twentieth UFC appearance pretty remarkable given where

1108
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 8: he's been at times in this UFC career, coming off

1109
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 8: a win that was again Martine Bravo way back in

1110
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 8: July Gracy four and Oh hasn't fought professionally in MMA

1111
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 8: since twenty sixteen. What can you tell us about ice Cream, Crone, Gracie.

1112
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 5: I've actually trained with both of these guys.

1113
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 7: I trained with Cassaras a long time ago when he

1114
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 7: was just getting started in his MMA careers UFC career,

1115
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 7: I should say so, I don't want to make a

1116
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 7: judgment based on that. He has improved a great deal,

1117
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 7: and you know, I think that clearly he's got to

1118
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 7: keep this on the feed if he wants a chance

1119
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 7: at beating Kron Gracy and even then, I think Krone

1120
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 7: is improving a lot on the feed. I actually saw

1121
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 7: Crone a few weeks ago right down the street from

1122
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 7: my house. Actually he was with Nate Diaz hanging out.

1123
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 7: So Nate Diaz has been training with him, and Crone

1124
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 7: is the type of guy John who never stops training.

1125
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 7: This guy has that same mindset as in Nate Diaz,

1126
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: where he's always getting ready for something, whether it's a

1127
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 7: triathlon or just training non stop. His training sessions are

1128
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 7: the real deal. Holy Field for sure. This guy trains

1129
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 7: like an absolute animal. Crone is always training, He's always ready.

1130
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 7: He's been working very hard on his striking skills. I

1131
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 7: think they will be dialed in for this fight. I

1132
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 7: see Chron Gracie getting the win in around the end

1133
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 7: of the second round.

1134
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 8: By where Naked cho and reports our Nate Diaz will

1135
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 8: be firmly in the corner of Chron Gracy and Phoenix

1136
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 8: Arizona this week and all I got to move fellas

1137
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 8: featured bout in the straweight division here Calvillo Casey, Cynthia

1138
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 8: Calvio prohibitive favorite monus two ninety Courtney Casey getting a

1139
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 8: home game here. Born and raised in Arizona, She's plus

1140
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 8: two thirty five Shane Calvio or Casey for you.

1141
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 9: With this fight, Courtney Casey definitely has the better, better

1142
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 9: stand up and she has I think she has a

1143
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 9: possibility to point it out. But I think Calvillo overall

1144
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 9: is just gonna it's just gonna destroy her.

1145
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: Uh.

1146
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 9: She's got real dirty boxing. I think she's going to

1147
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 9: get in with some striking, clinch her up, take her down,

1148
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 9: and then just grind it out.

1149
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: I don't think she's going to finish this Aince.

1150
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 9: Courtney Casey is really tough, but I think Calvio will

1151
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 9: probably get this one via decision.

1152
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 8: Can flow, Courtney Casey. You gotta respect the former soccer standouts.

1153
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 8: Right played soccer collegiately at the University of Texas l Passo.

1154
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 8: If memory serves, last three fights have all gone to

1155
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 8: split decisions. Last one did go her way. That was

1156
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 8: against Angela Hill. I like the potential for Casey. I

1157
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 8: like her frame, but here it's her tenth UFC appearance, Kenny,

1158
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 8: and I still thinks she's trying to put it all together.

1159
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 7: You know, John, everybody knows soccer players are the toughest

1160
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 7: athletes walking.

1161
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 5: Goddamn right right now, Okay, we all know that. It's clear.

1162
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 5: You watch one soccer game and you know that. Listen.

1163
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 7: I gotta say Casey, I think she hits harder than Calvio.

1164
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 7: I don't know if she's the better striker, though I

1165
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 7: think she does probably hit hard harder. I think Calvillo

1166
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 7: moves a little bit better on the feet. I think

1167
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 7: she's gonna be way better on the ground. The way

1168
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 7: that she puts it all together, I think Calvio will

1169
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 7: get the win in enemy territory all right.

1170
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 5: Co Maine event.

1171
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 8: This line has moved a little bit, but our line

1172
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 8: is Paul Felder minus one twenty five slight favorite against

1173
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 8: James Vick, who is a plus one oh five underdog.

1174
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 8: Felder's been out for a while, had surgery after the

1175
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 8: split decision, lost to Platinum Mike Perry last July. Now

1176
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 8: he returns against Vic vix one four of his last

1177
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 8: five knocked out though by Justin Gatgee And what was

1178
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 8: the main event last August? Good Co main event High

1179
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 8: Stakes at lightweight Felder Vic Shane?

1180
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 5: Who do you like?

1181
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 9: I mean? I tell you I'm gonna try it to

1182
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 9: take too long on this one because I had the

1183
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 9: most fun breaking this one down.

1184
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 4: I'm most excited for this fight.

1185
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 9: It's probably gonna be fire the night. I am a

1186
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 9: little partial to this because the guy that trains met

1187
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 9: my mutage Jim, used to train Paul Felder and he

1188
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 9: cornered him a couple of times. But I think if

1189
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 9: James Vick doesn't work his range and stand outside and

1190
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 9: just use a lot of jobs and a lot of

1191
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 9: kick kicks and pressure, I think Paul Felder is going

1192
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 9: to fucking kill him in the first round. I think

1193
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 9: is probably gonna be first round knock out. Paul Felder

1194
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 9: is just a monster.

1195
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1196
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of truth in there, at

1197
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 8: least in terms of Felder as a monster.

1198
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 5: Kenny.

1199
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 8: I mean, it's such a systematic weight cut. I think

1200
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 8: he's as big a power threat as there is at

1201
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty five pounds. You know, I'm high

1202
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 8: on Vic as well. Love the frame, I like the

1203
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 8: work ethic. What do you think close fight to cord

1204
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 8: into Vegas? Yeah, you know, I think that for James Vick,

1205
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 8: I think he has a real, big time fundamental flaw

1206
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 8: and it's just the dropping of those hands and standing

1207
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 8: way too tall. It just makes them super susceptible to

1208
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 8: overhands and hooks. And I think that Felder, you know,

1209
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 8: watching Vic's last fight against Gaegee, is gonna see something

1210
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 8: that he can exploit. And sometimes Felder, I think takes

1211
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 8: an interesting approach to fight. Sometimes maybe a lot of times,

1212
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 8: I feel like Felder makes it more difficult than it

1213
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 8: needs to be. I think that Felder still hasn't shown

1214
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 8: his true potential in the UFC in a lot of ways.

1215
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 8: I think Felder has a lot of good things going

1216
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 8: for him, but sometimes can be a little bit more

1217
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 8: efficient when he when he fights. That said, I think

1218
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 8: Felder does get the win. I think he has less weaknesses,

1219
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 8: I think he has more weapons than Vic, and I

1220
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 8: think he gets it done all right. Main event could

1221
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 8: determine the next heavyweight title challenger that remains to be seen.

1222
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 8: Kane Velaskiz returning. Cannot wait to see this for the

1223
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 8: first time since July nine, twenty sixteen. Stop Travis Brown

1224
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 8: that night at UFC two hundred. He's only fought twice

1225
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 8: since twenty thirteen. Still in trenches the favorite here though

1226
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 8: minus one ninety five Francis and Gano coming back at

1227
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 8: plus one sixty five Shane, As this is the main event,

1228
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 8: we will need the round of the method of victory.

1229
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 8: Who wins the headliner Sunday night in Phoenix.

1230
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 9: This put this flight is pretty exciting. It actually has

1231
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 9: a lot of questions for me, like why is Kane

1232
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 9: on ranks and he's fighting number three? Like I get

1233
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 9: that he needs a tune up fight that just this

1234
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 9: seems kind of weird.

1235
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: I des flight.

1236
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 9: I didn't even really need to break down to be

1237
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 9: honest with you, I think Kane is gonna tear fences apart.

1238
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 9: I feel like it's probably gonna be in the second round.

1239
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 9: He's going to finish in by TKO. But I mean

1240
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 9: there's a possibility for I guess I'm gonna pick the

1241
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 9: second round.

1242
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 5: T k O.

1243
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 9: There's obviously a chance Francis can knock them out. We

1244
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 9: all know that the dude hits really, really fucking hard.

1245
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 9: He he did not. He did stop Curtis Blade, who

1246
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 9: as a great wrestler, but they didn't get to go

1247
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 9: super long, so we didn't need to see his his

1248
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 9: takedown defense, you know. But I think I think Kan's

1249
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 9: definitely going to get this one.

1250
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1251
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 8: I think that's an important point in terms of the

1252
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 8: length or lack there of the fight between France and

1253
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 8: Gonald and Curtis Blades. Shane terror Man, great job, dude,

1254
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 8: appreciate the enthusiasm, the prep. Thanks for coming on and

1255
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 8: time permitting. We'll have you back before the year's out, Bud,

1256
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 8: great job.

1257
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 5: That'll be awesome.

1258
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 9: Thanks guys, I appreciate it.

1259
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 8: Shane terror making picks for Team Anak today, all right,

1260
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 8: Kenny Main event Kane Velaskaz Francis and Gano. So the

1261
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 8: win over Curtis Blades, Like on paper, he does have

1262
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 8: a win now over the most accomplished takeout takedown artist

1263
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 8: in UFC heavyweight history. Right, No UFC heavyweight has more

1264
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 8: takedowns than Curtis Blades. But it was a very short

1265
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 8: fight obviously. What do you think about Kane Velaskiz The

1266
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 8: layoff his prospects as two to one favorite against Francis and.

1267
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 5: Gun, You know what was kind of scary.

1268
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 7: I went back and watched some of them Gone's fights

1269
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 7: and went back and watched, you know, some of Cane's fights.

1270
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 7: You know, we haven't seen Kane compete in a little while.

1271
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 7: Obviously I know both of them very well, but I

1272
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 7: wanted to be prepared for this part.

1273
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 5: I love it to my ears. Went back and watch

1274
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 5: the fight against Curtis Blades.

1275
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought that the exact punch that Junior Dosantos

1276
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 7: caught Kane Velaskaz with in their first fight is the

1277
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 7: exact same punch that in Gano caught Curtis Blades with.

1278
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 7: Watch that fight. It is crazy. It's the exact same shot.

1279
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 7: Looks like the exact same sequence. The way that they

1280
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 7: dropped he hit him right on the side of the ear.

1281
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 7: So for those that are listening to the podcast, go

1282
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 7: and check that out. Watch those two fights in the

1283
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 7: finish of Desantos in the first one against Kane and

1284
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 7: the one that in Gano just beat Blades with in

1285
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 7: the rematch is very interesting.

1286
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 5: That scared me a little bit.

1287
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 7: It also scares me a little bit that sometimes Kane

1288
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 7: Velaskas will trade in the pocket if he wants to

1289
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 7: be able to land and set up his takedown, he

1290
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 7: needs to put himself in the pocket and throw hands

1291
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 7: against in Ganoho to get the respect so he can

1292
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 7: get a clean shot on those legs. If he gets

1293
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 7: in on the leg of Inhano, I think the fight

1294
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 7: is over. I think can get takes him down. I

1295
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 7: don't think that in Gano's gonna be able to get

1296
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 7: get up many times after that if he does. Kane

1297
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 7: very good at returning you right back down to the

1298
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 7: mat and pressuring you, getting his head over your head,

1299
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 7: so you can't do that again. And I think Kane

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Speaker 7: is has been itching for a fight and talking to

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Speaker 7: Daniel Korme, he said it looks like Kane Velaskas has

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Speaker 7: never left the game, and he is ready to go.

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Speaker 7: We've seen in Gano, uh, you know, against steep A Miacic.

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Speaker 7: I think Caine Velasquez is perhaps the original steep Pe Miacic,

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Speaker 7: and I would love to see those two tangle at

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Speaker 7: one point, steep A and Kane. But I think Kane

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Speaker 7: is just gonna be too good. I think he gets

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Speaker 7: the stoppage over in Gano at the end of the

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Speaker 7: first round.

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Speaker 8: All right, Kane, Round one TKO for Ken Flow and

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Speaker 8: I love the breakdown and I'll try to credit you

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Speaker 8: on the air when I get into.

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Speaker 5: All of that.

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Speaker 8: But it is, it is gonna be fascinating the first

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Speaker 8: thirty seconds of that fight.

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Speaker 5: I just cannot wait to see it play out.

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Speaker 8: And of course the cherry on top is that it

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Speaker 8: on ESPN. The early numbers have been strong, and hopefully

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Speaker 8: it'll be a big Sunday night for the MMA leader.

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