1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. Today 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: is our week sixteen Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chad Milman, 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are coming 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: off of a four and one week in our contest, 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: following up a three and two week the week before. 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: A lot of lines we liked on Sunday have already moved, 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: which is why you need to listen to the Sunday 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: show if you want to get the best of the number. 10 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Simon and I were just discussing before we came on 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Big Big line Moves today's show. We will get to 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: our Simon says, in our exact decision. On Thursday, we 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: will finalize our big Balls Better of the Week, our 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: foxhol our Survivor, Actually we probably won't get the Survivor, 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and our money line parlay, and don't forget this episode. 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: We'll look at the entire boarder we begin narrowing down 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: the five picks we'll enter in the Favorites Podcast. One 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars Pro Football Pick Them contest still free 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: and open for sign ups. It's awarding weekly and season 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: long cash prizes at Favorites dot actionnetwork dot com. Let's 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: bring in my co host, my bff, my companion, Mi 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: cam Padre Professional Better, Simon hotter Heado Simon, I'm good. 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm really good. 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Set of this episode last week heading into week fifteen, 25 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: that I thought our handicapping the week before when we 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: had finished three and two turned out to be great. 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: That we were just chicken on a couple of games, 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and we weren't going to be chicken going to last 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: week and specifically on the Bucks and the Panthers, we 30 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: were not chicken. It paid off. Let's make a pledge 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: to each other right now. We won't be chickens again. 32 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: We will be courageous in the face of line moves, 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: roster moves, quarterback changes, wise, guys chirping in our ears. 34 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: We will be bold, Simon. We will reach for the stars. 35 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: You know why, Why Because they are there. That's where 36 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: we go next. The Favorites podcast is presented by Bet 37 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: three six five. Bet three six five doesn't do ordinary 38 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: That's why you get more boosts with them than with 39 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: anyone else. 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First housekeeping note, and this is big. 55 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: You gotta listen because we've got a very big announcement 56 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: at the end of this week. Fifteen winners round up 57 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: in the Favorites Contest through fifteen weeks. Simon, you and 58 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: I are now forty three and thirty two in the 59 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: contest about fifty seven percent, a little bit above fifty 60 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: seven percent against the spread, three hundred and eightieth place 61 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: top three percent. Not bad, not bad at all, especially 62 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: to the jag off who gave us a one star 63 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: review because we had two bad weeks in a row. 64 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: You can suck it because you know what, not every 65 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: week is going to be perfect. We're giving you a podcast. 66 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: We're doing the best we can. One star review after 67 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: three weeks. You're like that dude Bill who was coming 68 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: after me because he thought I was not being as 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: transparent as I can. Come on. Week fifteen saw just 70 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: ninety entries finished five and oh in the contest. We 71 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: had a tie for first place. Two entries went five 72 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: and oh with the same tiebreaker. Congrats to Brian Vendetti 73 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and Joshua Brady enjoy the cash. This week's producer couple 74 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: Word goes to Jeffrey Hartnett for finishing dead fucking last 75 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: and the Week fifteen contests going to five, missing the 76 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: tiebreaker by two hundred and fifty yards. Jeffrey, jeff Jeffrey, Jeffrey. 77 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Please email our producer Matt Mitchell at podcast at actionnetwork 78 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: dot com to claim you're not cash Brice, thanks for 79 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: playing week sixteen in the contest. Now tiebreaker total rushing 80 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: yards and ravens niners on Christmas Night, Good luck to everybody. 81 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: Second Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve coming up. There are 82 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: both Sundays. We will not have our Sunday live recap 83 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: episode for week sixteen or seventeen. Go spend that time 84 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: with your families, your friends, your loved ones, handicapping for 85 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the next day, whatever it takes. Third housekeeping note, here 86 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: we go, folks, we are running it back. Another live show. 87 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: That's right after the glorious time we all had together. 88 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: The Favorites Podcast returns to the Shepherd and the Knucklehead 89 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: and Hoboken, New Jersey for the greatest sports event of 90 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: the year. That's Wildcard Weekend, folks. Wildcard Weekend, Sunday, January fourteenth, again, 91 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: like last time, doors open at four pm. Simon and 92 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: I will be there. We'll have drinks, we'll have merch, 93 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: we'll record our show live at seven point thirty. We're 94 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: going to sweat the bets together. That was the most 95 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: fun part of the day, Simon, as you recall, like 96 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: we were sweating, I think the Titans and the Colts. 97 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: We were sweating the Commanders and that Dolphins like we 98 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: were sweating the Jets. It was so great to be 99 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: sweating it with everybody, and then to have unfortunately the 100 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Niners crushed the Eagles, which is a big game we had. 101 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait to do it again with everybody, all 102 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: our listeners. It was just a wonderful event. I think 103 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: we all felt the warmth. We can't wait to do 104 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: it again. We're also doing an event that Saturday, Wildcard 105 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: watch party with Stucky, with Raybon, with Kerner. We're all 106 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: going to be in town that Saturday, same location, Shepherd 107 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: and the Knucklehead four o'clock thirteenth. Check out the links 108 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: in this episode description. You got RSVP folks last time 109 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: we were at capacity. We can't wait to see you 110 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: all there. Futures Portfolio update, So look, Jalen Carter had 111 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: a sack last night. Think he's about minus five hundred 112 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: a bet three sixty five. Tyreek Hill's still about two 113 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards ahead of anybody, even though we missed last week. Look, 114 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: the most interesting conversation signmon is MVP bet Josh Shallen 115 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: at tend to one early in the year. He's a 116 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: very live dog. We you and I are having a 117 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: conversation about Christian McCaffrey or Brock Purty. I think it's 118 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: a narrative, Lord, and I think the narrative is starting 119 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: to pick up steam for Christian McCaffrey Monday night, if 120 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: he gets the shine, then by Tuesday morning, I think 121 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: he's going to be favorite to win MVP. 122 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: I told you, I just think if all things being equal, 123 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: at the end of the dead they're going to give 124 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: it to Party if they win that game. He does 125 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: have the story Perdy, where McCaffrey really doesn't. Purdy had 126 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: major surgery on his elbow. I was one of those 127 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: doubters where I was like, this guy came back way 128 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: too soon. They're rushing him back. They shouldn't be trading 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: Trey Lance like they were just so all in on 130 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Party and it worked. I mean, it's crazy to think, 131 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: but this team was all in on a seventh round pick. 132 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: It's already skewed to the quarterbacks. If he can just 133 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: do what he's been doing right, if they win this game, 134 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: it will go McCaffrey Offensive Player of the Year MVP 135 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: will be pretty which just again, it just makes sense 136 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: the way they do these awards. The last running back 137 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: to win it Adrian Peterson. I told you he had 138 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: the story at the narrative he had twenties acl the 139 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: season before. I love, I love where coming from. I 140 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: hope you're right, because me and you both have bet 141 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: McCaffrey in a big number. I just I just can't 142 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: see it getting there. 143 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: We want to cash a big ticket. Let's get into it. 144 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: First game up Thursday night, Los Angeles Rams four point 145 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: favorites over the New Orleans Saints. The Saints are bad, 146 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: They've beaten bad teams the past two weeks. The Rams 147 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: have been balling out on offense. To me, it's a 148 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: roster mismatch, a coaching a coaching mismatch, a short week game. Yeah, 149 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: I bet the Rams at minus four. But after I 150 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: had betted, I said, hey, Evan, throw some stats into 151 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: the script about you know, these games, this situation for 152 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: these teams, and everything he put in there, nothing will 153 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: good for betting the favorites at home on Thursday nights. 154 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: It feels like we're getting a little bit of a 155 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: bump here, probably one point to the Saints team just 156 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: because it is a short weekend. They're on the road. 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to be on the Rams here. I'm right 158 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: with you, Chad. Like my first lawst number, I wanted 159 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: to be on the Rams. But it's crazy that all 160 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: Like I'm looking in the app right now, all the bets, 161 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: all the tickets are on the Rams, and a couple 162 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: of books have moved for four and a half back 163 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: down to four, So it looks like the pros are 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: on the Saints. If the Pros keep betting and it 165 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: gets down to three, just like the Ravens last week, 166 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: I'll take that value there, but if not, I probably 167 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: end up on the Saints chat as painful it is, 168 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: but luckily we don't need to make this one of 169 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: our five. It's just a weird wonky game where it's like, 170 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: how did the Saints keep up with this? This Rams 171 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: high powered offense? Last week was the week right they 172 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: had the stupid turnovers. I can't see the Rams and 173 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: then back to back weeks having those kind of dumb turnovers. 174 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: So get where Chad's coming from. Taking the Rams here, 175 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: just just be careful and know the professionals do like 176 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: the Saints in this game. 177 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: All right. Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Simon Sunday night, I mentioned 178 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: this game, and you were still reeling a little bit 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: because you had invested heavily in the Steelers against the 180 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Colts on Saturday. And I said, look, this is a 181 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: Tomlin spot underdog at home off a loss, but you 182 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: were against it. I'm like, all right, let's think about 183 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: the under And then on Monday morning, I woke up 184 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: and I was still feeling the Steelers. And then I 185 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: got a little confirmation bias from Brandon Anderson, who does 186 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: his hot read in the podcast that Evan and Jolgolantu 187 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: Sunday Nights Action Network round Up for Sunday look Ahead 188 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: from Monday for the rest of the week. And this 189 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: is one of those games, Simon. We can't put it 190 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: in the contest. It's a Saturday game, but we cannot 191 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: be chicken. Let me read some stats, okay, directly from 192 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson week five forward as a dog Mike Tomlin 193 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: sixty nine at home as a dog, seventy nine percent 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: Division games in his career twenty five five and one 195 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: eighty one percent as a dog after a loss of 196 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: seven or more ninety percent. Again, it's a spread again, 197 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: since he sixty seven percent AFC North Dogs late in 198 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: the season Week sixteen seventeen eighteen sixty four percent. The 199 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: Bengals have no DJ reader Jamar Chase is banged up. 200 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: Jake Browning narrative can exist forever. Buy low on the Steelers, 201 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: sell high on the Bengals, wrap it up in a 202 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: bow early Christmas present, no chickening out Steelers plus two 203 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: and a half. 204 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: What say you now caveat is I didn't like it 205 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: Sunday because that was in Mitchdruwisky, and I just refuse 206 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: to put more money on Mitch Druvsky. Thank god Tomlin's 207 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: come out and said it's gonna be Mason Rudolph, the 208 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: man with a dent in his head, So I don't know. 209 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take him with you, but thank god 210 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: this won't be in our contest. It's like, I'll bet 211 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: it just because of what you just said. I knew 212 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: it was gonna better regardless, but I hate it. I 213 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: hate I hate backing this Pittsburgh team like I can't. 214 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: I can't see another clip of their ride receivers not 215 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: blocking and letting their running backs get tackled, Like you know, 216 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: it's the classic of they are incredible of drafting these 217 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: ryge receivers, but this latest group they have have some 218 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 2: of the worst attitudes I've ever seen in a rye 219 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: receiving group. And you know, the guy Pickens might have 220 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: all the town in the world. He feels like a 221 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: guy that's gonna be out of the league in like 222 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: three or four years, just because he has such a 223 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: shit attitude. Like all he does is bitch on the 224 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: sideline not getting the ball, and he doesn't hold blocks 225 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: on the field, so it'stead of getting touchdowns, they're getting 226 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: tackled at the one yard line. Like he's just he's 227 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: everything I hate when you play sports when you have 228 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: that kayuz all the town in the world, but he's 229 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: such a narcissist that all he thinks about is himself. 230 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: You now, every a play should be with him. It's 231 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: just like, uh, it kills me. In a team sport 232 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: where you just need to all be on the same page, 233 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: you have guys like him. So yeah, the fear is 234 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: Tomlins lost his locker room. But Jad just gave you 235 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: the stats. Me and him, we've been playing this spot 236 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: every year together. We just always bet Tomlin these kind 237 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: of spots, So no doubt we're gonna bet it. Go 238 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: grab it two if you can still find it out 239 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: there at two and a half. But yeah, it sucks. 240 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: I hate betting this Pittsburgh team. It's just not been fun. 241 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: Simon, speaking of narcissism, can you repeat everything you just said. 242 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: I was mostly just staring at myself in the zoom 243 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: when you were talking, so I didn't really hear it 244 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: about bomb Buffalo at the LA Chargers another Saturday game. Look, 245 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: this is a game talk about not being chicken. I 246 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: mentioned this to you on Sunday night. It was at fourteen, 247 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: you know, like, of course we got to take it. 248 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: We were as we were recording the show, we saw 249 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: Stucky put the pick in the app He took it 250 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: at fourteen, stay there until Monday morning. I don't know 251 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: why I never bet it. I know we had such clarity, 252 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: all those reasons, like I was a chicken, and I 253 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: just I freaking I freaking regret this so much, and 254 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna have to wait, like hope on 255 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: Saturday it gets back to fourteen. We're going to talk 256 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: about this stat a couple of times today. Teams to 257 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: lose by twenty points or more of the previous week 258 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: facing a team that didn't fifty nine percent against the spread. 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, teams to allow forty plus points in 260 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: their previous game twenty two to thirteen and two against 261 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: the spread last two seasons, fifty plus points sixh and 262 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: one the last three seasons. Of course, we got to 263 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: bet the Chargers, and I just missed the window. And 264 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: now I'm just annoyed. 265 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks you missed the key number I did. 266 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: I wish I could say I got a ton down 267 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: on I didn't get that much down on the Chargers. 268 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: I mean the line if it gets the ten, I 269 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: feel like that kind of shifts to be in the 270 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: value on Buffalo. And if you're a big teaser guy, 271 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: you gotta be happy. Now I could tease them blow seven's. 272 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: That's pretty nice of the books to do it. I'd 273 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: be a little weary. It's interesting it's move so much. 274 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: I mean, before he came on, I checked if there's 275 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: any injury news. I'm not really seen anything. I don't 276 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: know why. I don't know why it's moved so much, 277 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: but I guess it's because you know, the Bills defense, 278 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: as good as they've been playing, it's still a team 279 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: that's lost major guys, right, there's still a team that 280 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: teams could should be able to move the ball on them. 281 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: So maybe the books are worried about a back door 282 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: on this one. It's just it's interesting it's moved so 283 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: much just because you know it's still I mean, the 284 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: tickets are very skewed towards the Bills, but the money's 285 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: pretty even at this point, right, Like if you're looking 286 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: in the action app, it's you know, there's been some 287 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: early money on this Chargers team. So yeah, I'm not 288 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: sure what you should do with this one. People, if 289 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: you've missed that fourteen thirteen and a half, I guess 290 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: just wait and maybe you can get the Bills at 291 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: ten and try to get a nice little middle there, 292 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: or play them in a teaser. But yeah, for me, 293 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: it's moved too much. When you have a play on 294 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: a chat. 295 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: I think it's it's probably moved because one or two 296 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: groups came in that we haven't figured out who they 297 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: are yet, And I bet the Chargers pretty heavy, and 298 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I think there's a bi low sell high and the 299 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Chargers were so bad and the Bills were so good 300 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: that of course they're going to try to find that 301 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: delta and what that breaking point is. This line did 302 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: get down to ten and a half and then it 303 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: started coming back up. 304 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: Like you said, it's extended rest and they have a 305 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: new coach like that could be the cat bounce. Yeah, 306 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: that's why people are probably betting them. It's just that simple, you. 307 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: Know, instead of the straight cat strut, the dead cat bounce. 308 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Detroit at Minnesota. Boy, this one moves right Saturday another 309 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: get another Saturday game was moving on Sunday night open 310 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: at four and a half, moved to three and a 311 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: half by the time we were on the show, now 312 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: at three, Nick Mullins, officially, the starter Vikings defense is 313 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: legit nasty. So is the Lion's offense when it's healthy 314 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: and they are healthy. They got everybody now and this 315 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: one is indoors, you know. I asked Devin to look 316 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: up some stats. How does this scenario division game favorite 317 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: of three on the road, home dogs in the division 318 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: the last five seasons three or higher forty nine percent 319 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: against the spread Home division dogs overall fifty percent against 320 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: the spread the last decade November or later forty five percent. 321 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: So I've been looking for reasons to bet the Lions. 322 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: The fact that it's at a field goal, now maybe 323 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: we feel like maybe we pulled the trigger there. 324 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take it, like if this was two 325 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: and a half our contest, I'd be really happy, but 326 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be three and a half because 327 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: they're never nice to us in that way. 328 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's a Saturday game, so we can't even bet 329 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: better in the contest, but as a better Sunday in 330 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota game. Is it Saturday? Is it Sunday? Hold on? 331 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I don't know. 332 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: Good. 333 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: It's an interesting number where it's like what Chad said 334 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: is true. People were back in the blankings. They're saying themselves, 335 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 2: this defense is still underrated, and you know, if they 336 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: would have beat Sincy, this would probably be a little lower. 337 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know, I feel like this 338 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 2: is as low as it could possibly get, right, Like 339 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: if they move this to two and a half, they 340 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: were going to get flooded, yeah with Detroit money. So 341 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: can't see it again lower, only can see it getting 342 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: back higher. We already know the professionals you're at. This 343 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: was four and a half, they've hit it four and 344 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: a half, four, three and a half and now they're 345 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: down to three on Minnesota, So I think Chad's right. 346 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Like to me, the line movement shifted towards the Lions. 347 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: If we could get them to and a half in contest, 348 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: I'd be happy to take that. 349 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I'd like Matt Mitchell to do some rips for the 350 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: end of the year of Simon just saying I think 351 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Chad's right. Good luck, yeah, good luck with that. Washington 352 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: at the New York Jets. The Jets are three point favorites. 353 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Can we just skip this one? 354 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean we're supposed to take the Jets here, 355 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: but Chad's right, we can keep it moving because it's 356 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: like we don't know who the quarterback is. But I'll 357 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: grab the Jets. I'll take the minus three of them 358 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: at home. You know, it feels like the secret is 359 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: out on that Washington offense and teams are kind of 360 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 2: figured out how to play. How I mean last week 361 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: they took him out to quote unquote protect him. And 362 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: I think it was was it Brisset that came in. 363 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: I think it was Jacob. He had he had more 364 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: pass in your hearts, yeah than how did and I 365 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: think ten minutes of playing and how did in the 366 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: whole entire game. So just dysfunction. We've seen it now 367 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: multiple weeks. Ron Rivert is a dinosaur. He's not keeping 368 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: up with the league. You know. The Jets, the fear 369 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: is they're just full on quin right because now they 370 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: are at a playoff contention and Rogers probably isn't gonna 371 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: come back, and what's the point at this point, But 372 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: it's just their defense at home, catching three feels like 373 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: that's the team I want to back with. Chad's right, like, 374 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: there's no way that ends up in our contest. 375 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Just to buttress your point, to booy your confidence, to 376 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: bolster whatever decision you make. Teams scoring three points or 377 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: less in their previous game sixty percent against the spread 378 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: the next game the last decade, one team fits that 379 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: criteria this week, New York Jets. Teams getting shut out 380 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: sample size forty six games since twenty fifteen. The next week, 381 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: seventy percent against the spread. One team fits that criteria, 382 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: New York Jets. 383 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: So there you go. 384 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it will be in our contest. Green Bay at Carolina, 385 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay ugly loss at home, Carolina ugly winner home. 386 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Love was actually not terrible against the Bucks. He 387 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: just played against Baker Mayfield, who is slash was elite. 388 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: The problem with Jordan Love is he was terrible early 389 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: in the game when the Packers had a chance to 390 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: get a lead and build on a lead. And I 391 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: think we did last week with Carolina. Just catch lightning 392 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: in the bottle in a bottle. So the numbers at five, 393 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: it's been bouncing around open to three, got up to five, 394 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: went to four and a half, back to five. I 395 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: don't really have a strong feeling. 396 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 2: Here, Simon says, take Carolina Panthers. 397 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: Oh no, you didn't, Simons do it? 398 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: We do what Sion's say. Yeah, yeah, I just won't 399 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: she grabbed the number now because I think it does 400 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: go back down to three and a half four. She's 401 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: just too big, too big of a number. This has 402 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: moved too much, too much respect to the Screen Bay 403 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: team and Jordan Love. As good as he played mid season, 404 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: you kind of see his woes his last couple of 405 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: weeks right in missing these throws, having bad throws here. 406 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: And there's just part of the growing pains of being 407 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: a starting in the lead. 408 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: Right. 409 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: Think about it. You haven't played this many games in 410 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 2: their entire lives, right, And Eventually all these guys are 411 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: for the first year usually hit a wall because it's 412 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: a long season. You're taking hits all season. Your body's 413 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: beat up. Teams are getting the film on you know 414 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: exactly what you wouldn't do. They know that he wants 415 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: to pass to this side of the field, he likes 416 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: using this side of the field, or he looks throw 417 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: up the middle and they're taking that away. It's just 418 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: Carolina at home too. I told you, child, I'm a 419 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: sucker to this team at home. They just play so 420 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: much better at home defensively as well. Every teaser will 421 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: have Green Bay in it, like everyone's gonna tie to it, 422 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: especially Carolina coming off a win last week. No one 423 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: think they're gonna this team's gonna win back to back games. 424 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: So I'm sorry people. I promise people too. People are 425 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: because that the last time we're gonna been the Panther 426 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 2: And I was like, I hope so, But this line's 427 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: too much. This should be three, three and a half, 428 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: it's five, Like this is insane, the amount of movement 429 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: this number has had. It's just the Panthers aren't as 430 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: bad as well perceived. Bryce Shung is right, he's bad, 431 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: but their team as a whole. They do have some 432 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: some players on that defense. Just looking at this number, 433 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: it's just too too highs. 434 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Panthers haven't run a play while leading in the fourth 435 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: quarter this season. The two wins they have two wins 436 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: both came on the last play of the game when 437 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: they were trailing. Here's a stat from Evan that may 438 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: challenge your strong feelings. It is smart to fade bad 439 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: teams off a recent win. Teams that are one in 440 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: four straight up in their last five games coming off 441 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: a win last twenty years, sample size of north of 442 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: two hundred games, nearly two hundred and thirty games, thirty 443 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: six percent against the spread, including to eighth straight up 444 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: this season, three and seventeen straight up the last two years. 445 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: In Week sixteen, two teams match that criteria, Carolina and Seattle. 446 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: I love Carolina, I love the fate Seattle this week, 447 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: so I don't have to deal with that stat. 448 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: We like them when they work for us. 449 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: We have You're not wrong. 450 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you've got to know what you're doing. 451 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: That's the point of this podcast. Leave Land at Houston 452 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: early Plan Houston and for Us at two and a half. 453 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: Opened at one and a half moved quickly to two 454 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: and a half hasn't budged as far as I know, 455 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: we're still waiting on word for Stroud, which I think 456 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: is why it hasn't gone to three. I think wise 457 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: guys are just buying the number at less than a 458 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: field goal, awaiting the news as a as a matchup. 459 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: You've pointed out the Browns have real issues on the road, 460 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: so I looked this up. Their past five games on 461 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: the road, they've allowed thirty eight points to Indy, a 462 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: game they won, twenty four to Seattle, a loss, thirty 463 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: one to Baltimore, a win, twenty nine to Denver, a 464 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: loss thirty six to La a loss. They will be 465 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: without brand Delpit again, who's on injured reserve, their safety, 466 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: their quarterback of the defensive backfield, their leading tackler before 467 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: he went out. I don't actually think that mattered much 468 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: against the Bears. I do think if CJ plays, that 469 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: would matter a lot against Houston. I love this pick, 470 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: and I love that we're getting at two and a 471 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: half now. 472 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: I was gonna make it. Simon says, but you're so right, 473 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: there's too much unknown about CJ. Like you still here, 474 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: we are Tuesday morning. You still concussion protocol yesterday, so 475 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: no need to rush this bet. I mean, worst case. 476 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: This is why I put a little bet now just 477 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: at two and a half, just in case he does 478 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: come back and all sudden, this balloon's up to three 479 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: and a half. Four. But just got to keep your 480 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: alerts on social media. You need to know Adam Schefter 481 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: whenever he gets cleared. CJ. We love this number, so 482 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: you know we might early lock in our contest just 483 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: because we're getting a good number right here on Texans. 484 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: We know Houston. They're just better at home as well. 485 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: Brown's defense at home thirteen points per game, that's the 486 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: best in the NFL. On the road thirty points per game, 487 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: most in the NFL. 488 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: That's crazy, all. 489 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Right, Indye at Atlanta, Ah, This one is heartbreaking from 490 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: a contest point of view, But kudos to Simon. You 491 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: nailed this one on Sunday night. You liked Atlanta plus two. 492 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: It totally makes sense. They were off a terrible, ugly loss. 493 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Indy had come off a dominating win on Saturday, just 494 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the playoff race. Buying low, 495 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: selling high. You had to bet it. It actually got 496 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: to two and a half yesterday. That's what I got 497 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: it at Falcons plus two and a half, I got 498 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: a couple words. And now we know Taylor Heineke's gonna 499 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: be playing, and so since since the announcement of him 500 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: playing in place of Desmond Ritter a quarterback, this line 501 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: has moved to Atlanta minus one. Here are my biggest 502 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: worries for this game. The Colts rushing defense has gotten 503 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: much much better since Grover Stewart came back from his 504 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: ped suspension. And I'm very worried about this Atlanta offensive 505 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: line and their health. We know Kaylen McGarry didn't play. 506 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking last week. We're looking for good updates on Lyndstrum, 507 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Chris Lynstrum, drewdalomand Jake Matthews. It's a very good offensive line. 508 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: Less good if they're not playing. Less less good if 509 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to run the ball against Rover Stewart and 510 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: an improving Cults rush defense. 511 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just said, like the value might shift 512 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: you to the Colts if this gets up to plus 513 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: two plus two and a half for the Colts. How 514 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: does this not end up in our contest? Like? Who 515 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: the hell is Atlanta And Heinikee. They're getting that many points, 516 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: but you know, I'll take a small mini victory lap 517 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 2: where I should it on Ridder for I don't know 518 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: seven months of the offseason and took a lot of 519 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: e from Atlanta fans saying, I don't know shit, My 520 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: insiders are wrong, and it's like Atlanta they're with this 521 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: guy every day. They saw him practicing every day. If 522 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: your front offense doesn't believe in your quarterback in the draft, 523 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: that should be huge red flags your team head into 524 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: the season and it's all pay it's played out that way. 525 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 2: He's just not good. Ridder so Heinikey being worth three 526 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: and a half points is insane, Like, I can't believe 527 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: it's moved that much off heinike News culture are just 528 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: a really well coached team, like I think Coward is 529 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: when they talked about it, it's like these the shift NFL 530 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: to go with the offensive guys. Yes, is this exact 531 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: example of this Colts team? Like if they had a 532 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: DC the defensive corner was their head coach, this team 533 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: might have three or four wins right as soon as 534 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: is there a number one quarterback went down, their season 535 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: would have been over. But they got an offensive guy 536 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 2: and he's made the whole system work around Minshew and 537 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 2: he's really highlighted Minshew's strengths. Yeah, Chad's right, Like I 538 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: wanted to be on Atlanta here the number might move 539 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: too much if it gets up to two and a half, 540 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be on the Colts. Like this will 541 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: be too much movement for Colts team that they're in 542 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: every game like this, these two teams, it's like the 543 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: Spider Man meme. They're the exact same team, like they 544 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 2: just they're right there at the same level, right in 545 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: the middle of the Colts could win their division. Sam 546 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: goes to Atlanta. It's like they're not that good, but 547 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: they're in weak divisions and they're still playing for something. 548 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: So we come back Thursday, and this is two and 549 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: a half. We're gonna be back on the Colts. 550 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: Also, I'm super excited to talk about who the Bears 551 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: are gonna get when they trade Justin Fields to the 552 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. It could be we take all three of 553 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: their interi offensive linemen and we take their number one 554 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: draft pick. 555 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: Don't draft a tight end at the fourth pick overall, 556 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: take the quarterback in Justin fields. 557 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Seattle at Tennessee. We talked about it a 558 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: little bit. Tennessee plus two and a half. Look, I 559 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: waited to put some notes in for this game until 560 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: after the game last night. What's interesting is, even after 561 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: the win and Monday night football, this game is still 562 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: at two and a half. I was leaning Tennessee before. 563 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: Now I'm one hundred percent going to have to take 564 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: Tennessee after the Seattle win and the stat I just 565 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: gave you that we didn't like for Carolina perfectly fits 566 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: with Seattle. Yeah, teams one and four straight up in 567 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: their last five games, coming off a win thirty six 568 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: percent the last twenty years against the spread book it 569 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: we're taking Tennessee here. 570 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sickening. I'm sorry everybody, but this is like 571 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: probably gonna be our big balls by the week. It's just, 572 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: oh goodness, amazing spot to take Tennessee here. They are bad. 573 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: Anyone that bet on the last week, you experienced it. 574 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: We had a pick six and we still lost our 575 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: damn bet against Case Kingdom last week, so they are 576 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: left for dead. No one's betting this. Put the professionals 577 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: bat like a pro. Take Tennessee here. This is such 578 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: a great Uh, don't care if it's Drew Lock, don't 579 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: care if it's Gino. We love this spot back in 580 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: this this team and this uh you know Titan's defense 581 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: that their biggest weakness is the past. That's what the 582 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: Seahawks want to do. It's scary, like the matchup is 583 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: definitely scary for Tennessee. But like Chad said, it's such 584 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: a huge letdown spot, short week travel, all of it 585 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: is negative for the Seattle team. So I'm not shocked 586 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: it's not moved. I was hoping it would get up 587 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: to three. Maybe if you know, does get clear, it 588 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: gets up to three. But the only place I see 589 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: this number really going is down. Like it just feels 590 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: like this is a smash spot for professional betters where 591 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: it's just like like after the last two weeks, right, 592 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: they had an emotional win against Miami, they came home 593 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: have an emotional loss against Houston. You gotta bet, you 594 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: gotta bet them to bounce back here, especially at this number. 595 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: So two and a half give me Tennessee. 596 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: Simon. I've got very good news for you is holiday season. 597 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: I know you've been looking for a nutritious flavor for 598 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: me to fuel you for betting the playoffs. 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All right, Last week we made 614 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: a big move with Baker Mayfield Baker Moxie Mayfield, King 615 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: of Moxie. Now they are one point favorites at home 616 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. Huge move overnight on Sunday based on the 617 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence concussion news because the Bucks weren't plus two 618 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: and a half if Trevor plays. We have two former 619 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: number one overall picks. One of them this season has 620 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns eight picks, completing sixty four percent of 621 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: his passes seven point one yards pert tenp for a 622 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: team tied for first place. The other eighteen touchdowns ten picks, 623 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: sixty five percent of his passages are completed for seven 624 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: point two yards per attempt for a team tied for 625 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: first place. What do you think of that? Baker Mayfield 626 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: is playing at a franchise level right now, franchise quarterback level. 627 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: Why don't we trust Baker here? And I know we don't. 628 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: We're supposed to fade them, unfortunately, Yeah, we're supposed to do. 629 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know what to do with the Trevor 630 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: Lawrence news or It's like, I don't even know if 631 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: this guy is gonna play. You know, he smacked his 632 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: head pretty bad there at that game, like he had 633 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: classic whatever it was. I think they either whipped him 634 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 2: down whever it was. We did the thing where he 635 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: slammed the back of his head, which is again insane. 636 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: There's just not a big ass pad on the back 637 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: of the helmet. Who cares, But look, yeah, just put 638 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: a pad back there. It'll never make sense when they 639 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: don't do it. But yeah, we want to fade the 640 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: Bucks here, like this is peak value, Like this number 641 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: is way too low. They should be a bigger dog. 642 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: It was right at two and a half three, that's 643 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: where I wanted to take them, But now it's moved 644 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: so much. It's like the value is definitely on Trevor 645 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: Lawrence and this Jaguars team now if it is Trevor 646 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Lawrence's quarterback, so exciting times for the Buccaneers. They're just 647 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: this is a different level. Like the Jaguars got crazy 648 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: unlucky against the Ravens team. We expect them to bounce back. 649 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 2: And Baker's coming off the best game of his entire career, 650 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: like Evan told us, he's the only guy other than 651 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: Rogers ever to have a perfect QB rating in Lambeau. 652 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: Like the guy threw for three hundred yards was a 653 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: three or four touchdowns. It's crazy. You just expect a 654 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: let down game here, especially a Jaguars team that just 655 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: got embarrassed. I mean I'm looking at the bet splits 656 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: right now. It's actually skewed a little bit towards the Jaguars, 657 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: so like at least the public is still believing the 658 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: Shaguars team. I think that's the right move here where 659 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 2: it's like I wanted to be on Tampa. The numbers 660 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: moved too much. No bets for me yet, But once 661 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: I know Forever is gonna be back, I'll be in 662 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: on the Jaguars. 663 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: I don't imagine this getting into our contest. No, No, 664 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna have a lot of other 665 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: games that feel a lot better to us in the contest. 666 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: One game that I think is peaking with a lot 667 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: of people's interest. Dallas as a one and a half 668 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: point underdog against Miami. Talked about it Sunday night. It 669 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: was at two. You betted it too, it moved to 670 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: one and a half. Miami hasn't beaten a good team. No, 671 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: Dallas gets sacked by good teams. Dak lost the MVP 672 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday. One of these teams has to prove it. 673 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: I do think Tyreek Hill's status is a big deal. 674 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: He is supposed to play, he is likely to play. 675 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: I know you like Dallas here, I feel like I 676 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: like Miami. 677 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 2: It's fair. It's like this one's really tough to make 678 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: an opinion on. I just I like Dallas in the 679 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: sense that they just got blown out and embarrassed, so 680 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a week of hell for them. Or 681 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: on the flip side, Miami, I don't think they give 682 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: up a single point right is now you said they 683 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: don't give up a single point to the Jets, Like 684 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: that's the vibes are all there. You got an incredible 685 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 2: team right now. Like I get Miami's feeling good. Dallas 686 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: has that doubt that we're not good enough. They're gonna 687 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: hear it all week. You know, you guys haven't beat anybody. 688 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: You've struggled against good teams an awful on the road 689 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: this season. May do they need this bad? I know 690 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: Miami needs a bad too, But I just I'm looking 691 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: at the different levels of teams here, it just feels 692 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: like Dallas is more ahead of them right, Like this 693 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: is a more complete team at this point, especially if 694 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: Tyreek's out, Like that's the decider there. If Tyreek's in, 695 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: he's going to play. 696 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Tyreek's playing. He knows that we've got to we've got 697 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: a ticket. We need him to we He knows we 698 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: got a ticket. He could probably this one more game 699 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: and we'd be fine because he's so far ahead. 700 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: But to be close though, Uh great, No, it's a 701 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 2: hard one. It's a hard one. I want to I'll 702 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 2: be honest. I want to take Dallas. I've taken a 703 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: little bit on Dallas just because I thought the number 704 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: was too high. It has come down. You know, I 705 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: talk all the time. Two is a key number than me. 706 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: So if I touched Dallas a one and a half, No, 707 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: I thought two was the poor number to get. I 708 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: did get it. Don't really like I'm with Chat on 709 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: this one. I don't really know what to do with it. 710 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: Where he likes Miami, I like Dallas. We're both split 711 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: on it. It's just this is such a Miami game 712 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: to lose like that once again, they've sucked all their 713 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: fans back in and they just fall apart in these 714 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: kind of games. So definitely a tricky game that's going 715 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: to decide a narrative for both these teams head into 716 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 717 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll hear more about it from sharp calls. Maybe 718 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: we'll have a firmer decision on Thursday. Here's the stat 719 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: from Evan to support me. Teams that are really good 720 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: listed as underdogs late in the season have struggled. Teams 721 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: with a winning percentage of seventy percent or more in 722 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: December or later listed as dogs forty against the spread 723 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: in the regular season. Ev if you could tell me 724 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,959 Speaker 1: in the chat what the horizon is on that that's 725 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: a sample of about one hundred and twenty five games, 726 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: so that Dallas fits that and one other team, and 727 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about this game because I know 728 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: you and I completely disagree on this game. Well, another 729 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: team fits this criteria and we're gonna get to that one. 730 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: That's a little bit of foreshadowing, folks. Arizona at Chicago, 731 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: Chicago's four and a half point favorite. I have nothing 732 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: to say about this game other than after Sunday, the 733 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears text chain has officially decided that it's time 734 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: to move on from Justin Fields. We're gonna trade them. 735 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna trade them. We've given the stamp of approval. 736 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: Time to get to Caleb Williams. I was there. I 737 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: was totally there, and then one of the guys in 738 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: the chain, my buddy Matt. We had a long, hour 739 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: long conversation on Sunday a couple of weeks ago before 740 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: the Bears beat the Lions. His wife intervened, She's like, 741 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: we got to get out of here. I cannot listen 742 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: to you talk about the Bears and Justin Fields anymore today. 743 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: And we were all in, but I'm back to reality, 744 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: cayleb Williams. Get to the Bears. Let's start over with 745 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: the contract, get a haul of picks, build some talent, 746 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: free up our cap space. This game I want to pass. 747 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get rid of get rid of fields, 748 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: get rid of the head coaches, start over. 749 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: Start over. You can't keep the head coach, and you 750 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: can't get rid of the head coach and keep fields, 751 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: then you're you're paying, You're overpaying for a quarterback and 752 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: you're starting from scratch again. 753 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't know if you saw the stat 754 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: about them this season, but it's pretty crazy where you 755 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: guys have had three losses where you're ten in the 756 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and apparently you guys are basically like the 757 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: only team to have that happen to you, like Cape 758 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 2: having these losses where you would be what eight and 759 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: six at this point, it be something where you guys 760 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: would be like a game back of the lines if 761 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: you just hadn't blown those games. So yeah, it's too 762 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 2: big of a number here, like Arizona. This is the play. 763 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: You have to take Arizona here, the numbers should be three. 764 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: You're getting an extra point just because Arizona has been 765 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: bad these this last month. I mean, they have been 766 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 2: very bad, and you know, I don't know if it's 767 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: just because they're so young and they have no talent, 768 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: but this Bears team is just as young and they 769 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: are struggling with talent, especially in the secondary. Like what 770 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: if Black a throw for it? You, I have three 771 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards on this secondary after you threw 772 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 2: three picks. So this is this is a team that's 773 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: been number one since Week five in turnovers and interceptions 774 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: but has nothing to show for it. They have, say, 775 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: they have some crazy stat where they had nine picks 776 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: in these last couple of weeks. They have thirteen total 777 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 2: points off those interceptions. Like this is just a team 778 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: that they just struggle. They struggle to be consistent in 779 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 2: so many ways. So Arizona is terrible. I agree with 780 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: everything people have pushed back on this one, but Snummer's 781 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: too high. Plus four is way too high. They should 782 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: be plus three. So I'll take the free point of 783 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: value and I'll take Arizona here the. 784 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: Statue were referring to that Evan gave us on Sunday. 785 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: The Bears are now three and three straight up since 786 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: the start of last season when eating by ten plus 787 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: points entering the fourth quarter. The rest of the NFL 788 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: in that window one ninety two, sixteen and one ninety 789 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: three percent. So the Bears are five hundred, the rest 790 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: of the NFL ninety three percent. I mean, I guess 791 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about it. Maybe I could be 792 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: persuaded this is one of the five, if only because 793 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: it would be a year my guy pick like I 794 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: am blinded by fear and failure for the Bears. 795 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 2: Then airs when I get blown up by twenty points 796 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: last week. Though you got that other stat you can 797 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: you can hold on too. 798 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: They didn't they? I think they only lost by twelve? 799 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 2: Oh are you sure I covered? No, I've covered the 800 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. 801 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: They they played the forty nine ers and the Niners 802 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: won twenty eight to twelve. Didn't They are twenty eight sixteen. 803 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: It was on score. 804 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 2: They got like forty five points or something last week. 805 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 2: I'll pull it up for you. 806 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,879 Speaker 1: Pull it out. New England at Denver Denver plus six 807 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: and a half. 808 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, five. 809 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: Forty sixteen. 810 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it doesn't damn we didn't get our twenty. 811 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: Didn't get our twenty. See the math I can do 812 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: so quickly. New England and Denver plus six and a half. 813 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: I kept thinking, I said this on Sunday. I wanted 814 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: to back New England here. The defense is improving. Bailey 815 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: is not mac Jones. But you made a really good point. 816 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: You made a really good point that I said, the 817 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,439 Speaker 1: Bronco has been winning all their games on turnovers and 818 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: that's why we faded them this past week. 819 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 820 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: And then you made the point, yeah, but New England 821 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: is the one that that is always turning the ball over. 822 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: And then Evan did give us teams to lose by 823 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: twenty points or more the previous week facing a team 824 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: we didn't fifty nine percent against the spread since twenty twenty. 825 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: That would be the Broncos against the Chiefs, I mean 826 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. 827 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I said it. I thought at five and 828 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: a half, the value was there on Denver. I was like, 829 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: this number is only going to go up. Yere at 830 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: sixteen a halfs it crossed the key number. You know, 831 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: still like Denver, but obviously we don't like it as much. 832 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: Like this is a this is a big move been 833 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: moving up to this point. I mean, the total is 834 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 2: down to thirty four, which is like makes perfect sense, 835 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: right for these two teams that you know, as much 836 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,439 Speaker 2: trust I have in rusting this offense, they are also 837 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: been They've been in consistent as well this year, this 838 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 2: Denver team, So they benefit a lot from short fields 839 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: and that's what's really helped this offense. So yeah, my 840 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: gut instinct is like, we want to take New England here, 841 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: but we know the deal right Denver mile high at home. 842 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: It's a real thing, especially this late in the season. 843 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: You know, Chad just gave us the stat this is 844 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 2: the Denver team that got blown out last week. Now 845 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 2: they're six and a half point favorite, so the books 846 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: know they're gonna need day in New England here. So 847 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 2: I might come around on New England at this point. 848 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: I just can't get there yet. I still like Denver, 849 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: but I don't like them at that number. It's moved 850 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: too much for me to take. 851 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it's sort of. It's in a no 852 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: man's land right now for us. We can't back either one. 853 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: It's too bad we couldn't take Denver I five half 854 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night, Simon, I want you to concentrate very 855 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: hard right now, think very hard on this next question. 856 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: It will determine both of our futures. Can you name 857 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: the fastest growing ticketing app in the United States? 858 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: Game Time? 859 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: That's right, it's our sponsor, game Time. I love game 860 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: Time for two reasons. 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I bought tickets 869 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: for Yukon coming up in January on game Time last week. 870 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: It was an amazing experience. No matter where you live, 871 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: download the game Time app, get out and has some 872 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: fun this week. Go sweat your bets live and in person. 873 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: You can redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off your 874 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: first purchase. Terms apply again. Just download the app. In 875 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: it reco favorites for twenty dollars off less minute tickets 876 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: lows price guaranteed. All right, Las Vegas at Kansas City. 877 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City is a ten point favorite. I have zero 878 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: read on this other than in the last twenty years 879 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: Home division favorites of over a touchdown forty seven percent. 880 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes six four and one against the spread in this spot. 881 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: I do think this Kansas City team is struggling. I 882 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: do think it's getting harder and harder for them to score. 883 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: I do think there is frustration. I do think that 884 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is probably losing a little bit faith in 885 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: his receiving core. So, I mean, I guess we got 886 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: to lean Las Vegas here, but I don't have like 887 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: contest confidence in this now. 888 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 2: The thing that's scaring me is, what the hell is this? 889 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 2: Lying like I got this at seven it's ten. That's 890 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 2: glare and the books. You're telling us that I'm over 891 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 2: valuing this Raiders team way too much. I mean, it's brutal, 892 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: like they just came off a sixty point game. Now 893 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: they're a ten point dog. Yeah, I want to take Vegas, 894 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: but it's stinks. This line stinks. Don't know what to 895 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 2: do with it. I'll probably end up on the Raiders, 896 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 2: but no chance is one of our five because I 897 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: just I'm so confused by this number. I don't know 898 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: why it's so high. You need to talk to a 899 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 2: couple of bookmakers or a couple of the professionals. I 900 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 2: just don't don't get this number at all. I think 901 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 2: if it was seven and a half eight, they would 902 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 2: have got plenty of Raiders' money. And maybe they made 903 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: it this hot just to protect against the teasers, right, 904 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: because now you can't do your seven point teaser. It 905 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 2: gets you to three, which is we sell. The time 906 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 2: you push on a teaser, you lose that teaser bet. 907 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: So maybe that's why they've hung the ten to protect that. 908 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 2: But interesting number. Just the Chiefs. I didn't think they'd 909 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: ever get at this big of a number unless they're 910 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 2: playing against you know, the Panthers or something. But yeah, 911 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: last week right before kickoff and moved all up to 912 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 2: ten against the Patriot and this week they open up 913 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 2: again minus ten at home. Interesting interesting numbers, So no 914 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: read on this one for me yet. 915 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: Chad home favorites home division favorites of ten or higher. 916 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: So I just gave you seven and a half or 917 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: higher forty five percent against the spread the past twenty years. 918 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: My home seven or higher twenty one, twenty six, and two, 919 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: and he's fourteen and twenty one as a favorite of 920 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: seven or more since twenty and since twenty twenty and 921 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: I think. 922 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 2: As a double digit favorite, Evan. I could be wrong, 923 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 2: but isn't he like eleven and thirteen against the spread 924 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 2: as a double digit favorite? So not great, but not 925 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 2: not that much to fade there. 926 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: So a lot of the stats that I just gave 927 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: are also applicable to the Giants at Philly. This is 928 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: a Monday night football game. I don't really know what 929 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: to do with this one. It's like it's a similar 930 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: situation as the chiefs of the Raiders say, once dominant 931 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: team getting the benefit of the doubt from bookmakers and 932 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: likely the public against a team with a rookie quarterback 933 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: that has shown flashes. But it's probably nothing more than 934 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: a really nice story, right, So eleven and a half 935 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: is a lot of freaking points though, for the Eagles 936 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: in a division matchup. 937 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: Like my you know, back in the day, people were 938 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: like breaking their arms to get out of the draft. 939 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 2: That's what Tim of DeVito should have done. He should 940 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 2: have won that game before the Saints. Should have had 941 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 2: his buddy over. Just step on his arm and break 942 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: that bad boy in half, and then you just ride off. 943 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 2: I'll go open U about Pizzeria North Jersey, the Vito's 944 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 2: giant spot, whatever you're gonna call it in You're gonna 945 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 2: live the good life. But he wanted to stay healthy. 946 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: He is competitive, he wants to keep playing. And the 947 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 2: story's gonna start unralling here, right chat. It's like the 948 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 2: guy can only hit on sixteen so many times I 949 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 2: get twenty one. It's like the most insane run of 950 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: luck with this kid. De Vitoe's gone. And watch his 951 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 2: college tape. It is truly incredible, how good he is 952 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 2: compared to what he was in college. Oh yeah, it's bizarre. 953 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to take the giants like the Eagles. 954 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 2: We might take all that COVID or the flu and 955 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 2: they're traveling on a short week. Oh I guess not, 956 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 2: because this is a Monday game. But that's just it's 957 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: crazy again the books, they know what they're doing, making 958 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: it so big. I mean, maybe it is because it's Christmas. 959 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we're getting the same things here as a Thanksgiving 960 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: where they just bump up these favorites because they know 961 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: all the teasers. All these people are just gonna do 962 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 2: the three team teasers because it's three games on a day. 963 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 2: It's like, this is what the public likes to do. 964 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 2: But once again, it's like I had this eight and 965 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 2: a half, it's ten and a half. Like that's a 966 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 2: lot of points of value for the Giants right now. 967 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: So eleven and a half. 968 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: It's eleven and a half. 969 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: Dude, that's what I'm saying. Every trend, every scenario it 970 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: says take the freak Giants. Yeah, I know, I hate it, 971 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: and I actually feel more comfortable about doing it here 972 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: than I do with the Raiders. 973 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: Especially the Eagles have owned the Giants. I think we 974 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: beat them thirty seven to seven last year in the playoffs, 975 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: and we dominated them during the regular season as well. 976 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 2: You know, we just match up really well against the Giants. 977 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: But see, I just said, that's just so many points. 978 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 2: So once again, no chances will be one of our five. 979 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm just not that confident in betting and Davido on 980 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: the road in this spot. We saw it last week 981 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 2: against the Saints, where it's like they were sucking us in. 982 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,240 Speaker 2: They were like, here, here's six points against Derek Carr 983 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 2: thick this. You want this, don't you. I'm not gonna 984 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 2: let it happen again this week, Like, I'm not gonna 985 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 2: let this be one of our five. So maybe we'll 986 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 2: take the Giants at eleven and a half ten and 987 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: a half, but this won't be one of our five. 988 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: The next one is not going to be one of 989 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: our five either, because you and I are diametrically opposed 990 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: on this. Baltimore at San Francisco, SIP. This goes a 991 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,720 Speaker 1: five and a half point favorites Monday Night Football Executive Decision, 992 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: San Francisco. 993 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the choice between the unthinkable and the impossible. 994 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: Your Honors Texture executive decision. Yeah, I'm saying I know 995 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: you hate it. It's as chalky as it gets. But 996 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: this team is dominant. I don't think we are fully 997 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: recognizing how dominant this team is, how well coached this 998 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 1: team is. We're blinded by a three game losing streak 999 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season when they were without 1000 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: two of their most important weapons, Trent Williams at left 1001 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: tackle and Deebo Samuel, who does everything on the field. 1002 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, this team when they 1003 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: are healthy and everybody is playing, which is what they 1004 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: are now, and they haven't been like that for Kyle 1005 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: Shanahan in seven years of coaching. They're undefeated this year, 1006 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: winning by an average of double digits, dominating teams, dominating 1007 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: good teams, doesn't matter who they are playing. They are 1008 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: not the Cowboys, they are not the Eagles, they are 1009 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 1: not the Bills. They are not even the Ravens, who 1010 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: have struggled against bad teams and good teams when healthy. 1011 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: This is a team that is so good we are 1012 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: going to talk about it in historic proportions when the 1013 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: season is over and they have won the Super Bowl 1014 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey has been named the m v P. 1015 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: All those reasons I just gave you is why you 1016 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 2: need to bet the Ravens here. It's just the hype 1017 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 2: is out of control, Like what are we doing here? Evan? 1018 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we can put in our chat, but I know 1019 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 2: he put a stat out about anytime Lamar has been 1020 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 2: a dog in this kind of position perform as well. 1021 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: Me and you, I'll never forget this. We bet on 1022 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs against Lamar. Lamar might have been a four 1023 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 2: point dog or four and a half point dog and 1024 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 2: a livid landed on five like we cover by half 1025 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: a point with the Chiefs, and that might have been 1026 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 2: his first years like a full time starter. So okay, here, 1027 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 2: here we go. Lamar is a dog eleven and two 1028 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,479 Speaker 2: ats Chad like, this is just a spot you take. 1029 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 2: You take Lamar on the spot, especially against a team 1030 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: like this is just so hyped up right now where 1031 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers are really good. Everything Chad has 1032 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: said is so true, where it's like, not only do 1033 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 2: you have all the talent in the world on the offense, 1034 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: they have the quarterback like Purty is so much better 1035 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 2: than Jimmy g Ever was in his career. And it's 1036 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 2: only his second year, or I guess should say his 1037 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 2: first year is a full time starter. It's incredible, It 1038 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 2: really is incredible what this kid's doing. You know, it's 1039 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 2: like Shanahan's dream scenario, Like he has this guy who 1040 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: you know all of his weaknesses, you just don't see 1041 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 2: it in the league. Like the things he did so 1042 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: bad in college, they somehow fixed it in two years, 1043 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 2: Like him making bad reads, him forcing him bad throws, 1044 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 2: even his fifty to fifty balls downfield. He's putting in 1045 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,279 Speaker 2: a position where it's like either his receiver is gonna 1046 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 2: get it like he started to his outside shoulder, or 1047 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 2: no one's gonna get it. Like it's incredible how well 1048 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 2: perty's playing. As I hype them up here. This is 1049 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 2: why you take the Ravens like it's a battle tested team. 1050 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: They're a team that I've played in a ton of 1051 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 2: really close games. I mean I just went through Wai 1052 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 2: Child was talking the forty nine ers. Chad's right, like, 1053 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 2: other than those three games skid, they basically have dominated 1054 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 2: and blown out every team they've played, like They've just 1055 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 2: been dominant from Week one all the way to now 1056 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 2: Week fifteen. So I get where Chad's coming from. I 1057 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 2: just think it's too big of a number. You know, 1058 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 2: if this gets the six, I'm gonna have to unload 1059 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 2: on this Ravens team, which I do not want to do. 1060 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 2: So I'm hoping the pros come in and bet this down. 1061 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: There should be closer to four to four and a half. 1062 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 2: I'll take the points. I'll take the five and a half. 1063 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,959 Speaker 1: Really good teams the past twenty years listed as underdogs 1064 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 1: late in the season have struggled teams with a seventy 1065 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,760 Speaker 1: plus win percentage in December or later who are listed 1066 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: as dogs one hundred and twenty five games, sample size 1067 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,720 Speaker 1: forty against the spread, two teams. 1068 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 2: Five chance of hitting. 1069 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: It, Dallas, Baltimore. You're you're unloading at the five and 1070 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: a half. I'm hoping that the wise guys feel the 1071 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: way you do and they continue to come in on 1072 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,800 Speaker 1: and they come in on the Ravens at five and 1073 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: a half, so I can get the forty nine ers 1074 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 1: at maybe five. 1075 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 2: I've done nothing, though, I'm just waiting. I'm hoping what 1076 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 2: you say is true, which is like the public should 1077 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 2: like the forty nine year They've been the best team 1078 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 2: all season. They should be the Super Bowl favorites. I mean, 1079 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 2: I've had them power rate and up, so my number 1080 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 2: one team now for on you know, three four weeks, 1081 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: like they've just they've been incredible. And this is what 1082 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 2: we talked about. This is every teaser on that Monday 1083 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 2: slate on Christmas is going to be tied to this 1084 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 2: team like so you know, I'm hoping the pros wade 1085 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: and this gets up to six like this, to me, 1086 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 2: this will just keep going up just because the public 1087 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 2: will keep hanging this one. So yeah, Chat, I don't 1088 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 2: think you're gonna get what you want, which is this 1089 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: going down to four to three and a half. I 1090 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 2: can only really see this being bumped up by game 1091 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 2: time just because the publics that are coming heavy on this. 1092 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean that just the forty nine ers are the 1093 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,240 Speaker 2: most talked about, most beloved team right now in football 1094 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,720 Speaker 2: exact decision. 1095 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard for us to find 1096 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: five that we both agree on right now that doesn't 1097 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: include the Jets. 1098 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 2: I got Arizona. 1099 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot Arizona, got Tennessee, Arizona, Tennessee, probably 1100 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 1: Detroit if we can get it at three, Arolina plus 1101 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: fe I guess. 1102 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 2: You're right, it's gonna be tough to get to the 1103 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 2: five now. 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