WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Roster Roundtable 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:07.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:11.840 Cowboys. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.200 This he is Talking Cowboys training live from. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:22.680 The Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.880 Six second past time touchdown. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:33.720 And now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:39.000 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:43.320 It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.239 Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.159 and the SWBC studios. We are back in the building. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.120 The Cowboys are back in the building is training camp. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:59.200 Ship says focus from Oxnard, California, now to Frisco, Texas 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.240 for the final week of Training Camp twenty twenty five. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.600 Welcome in everybody alongside Patrick, no, Cy Walker and Josh 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.679 Rodriguez with Chris Beam in the back of Kyle yeomen 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.760 So glad you're with us. No Isaiah standback today he 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.520 is on the physically unable to perform list. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.840 The pup lists on the mend is one Isaiah Stambay. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.040 Yeah, a poor guy had back surgery last week. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.240 A wee could go today, we could go today. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.120 He had back surgery and he's got a story on 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.880 his Instagram, telling all about it and kind of showing 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:31.759 them behind the scenes. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.679 I mean, he was down for the count. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.639 He mustered up enough strength to throw on a back brace, 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.120 throw on a suit, get in the booth at at 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:44.440 and T Stadium on Saturday from a Tuesday this Saturday turnaround. 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.280 And I texted him yesterday and I was like, Hey, 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.960 how are you feeling after working through it being the 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.120 color analyst on the game against the Ravens, doing a 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.280 great job up in the booth as always, said how 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.360 you feeling today? How you feeling two days after that? 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.240 And you had to muster it up? He said, man, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.360 you have no eye idea? 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.600 Oh he said, it is it is sore. Yeah. Yeah. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.840 And so I don't blame him for missing today because he. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.680 He just shows his priority, you know, calling the game 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.440 and then you know NFL Network and then talking Cowboys 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.920 is somewhere in the pits, you know. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:17.800 Listen. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:22.000 Bottom line, Isaiah, you're a glady friend. You are a 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.560 Roman gladiator to go through the back procedure, and you know, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.280 I know exactly what the procedure. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.760 We knew what the procedure was. Cofusion. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.160 Yeah, it's it's a pretty big deal and to be 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.840 in the booth calling the game alongside Bill Jones. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.000 As a Roman gladiator. He could say, are you not entertained? 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.000 Are you not entertained? Is this not why you were here? 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.760 Theil bitter heel up. We'll see you soon, bro. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:49.320 Love you buddy. 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:52.160 I know he's listening because he texted Beemer this morning 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:53.600 and said, man, I'm not gonna make it. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.800 I'm sorry. Well, if you listen to Isaiah, you suck 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.400 whoa whoa wow. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:02.800 We are using if you're listening, and then let me 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.359 throw let me throw some smoke. How we do That's 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.799 how it goes right. If you're not listening, I say, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.600 it's the man. He's great. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:10.840 I love buddy. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.280 Yeah, this is how brotherly love works. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.760 Hopefully he'll be here on Thursday and we'll make it 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:16.760 happen on Thursday. 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.200 But glad to be back here and at the Star 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:19.800 and Fristco. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.520 I'm glad you guys had safe travels back from California. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.760 You guys did a great job last week holding down 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.600 the show. We've got a lot to catch up on 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.160 and it feels like that now because we're still on 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.760 that every other day schedule. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.520 We've got like two days forty eight hours worth of. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.200 Stuff to catch up on, especially when it goes over 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:38.440 a weekend like it has. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.800 So let's start with some news and notes. Let's get 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:41.280 into it. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.800 Lots of roster transactions, injuries, and stuff all popping up 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.320 from Saturday's matchup. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.400 Yeah, So first and foremost, we'll go with the headliner, 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.400 Jonathan Mingo. Jonathan Mingo suffered a pco injury in his 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.440 knee on that deep pass on to the right side 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.600 from Joe Milton. He is expected to miss four to 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:05.320 six weeks. Obviously, the regular season is September fourth, so 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.120 this is going to spill into the regular season. He 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.120 is now a prime candidate for injured reserve with designation 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.920 to return out, explaining that here momentarily to make room 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.040 for an addition, I'm not. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:19.720 Going to try this name. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.880 You want to give this last name of try Kyle, Josh, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.280 you want to give this last name of try, It's 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:25.200 name's Michael. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.040 Yeah, Michael. I can say that one. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.200 Listen, we are now practiced that we could say Banogay 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:38.080 all the loftlong day. Michael Oja Moody cornerback signed by 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.520 the Cowboys yesterday. He has He's a former third round 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.800 pick of the Denver Broncos. Spent some time as a 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.919 rookie with the Broncos several seasons before going on to 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.200 the Bears in twenty two, which is when he spent 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:51.560 some time with Guess. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.640 Who isn't that Eberflu? 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.599 That is Iberflus. Yeah, you gotta know the eber Flu's. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.160 You might know a thing or two about this guy, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.360 might know a thing or two. 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.279 So iber Flu went out and convinced the Cowboys to 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.560 pluck this young man so that they can see what 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.240 he has going into the regular season. Because yes, Cowboys 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:14.880 are absolutely ravaged at cornerbacks, so ad Bruce Harmon to 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.040 the injured list, But he's been waived to make room, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:22.040 like I said to add Oju Moudia. And with that, 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.440 you're also looking at Christian Matthew. He went down in 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.960 the game on Saturday against the Ravens. He did not return. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:31.400 We don't know his status at this moment either. Cowboys 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.120 are trying to figure out what to do with Mingo. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.159 Kind of circling back to that really quickly. With injury 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.400 injury reserve designation to return, teams are allowed to put 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:46.440 two players to start the season. With that designation, neither 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.479 of those two players will count against the fifty three 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.360 man rosters, so no roster gymnastics required for those two gentlemen, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:53.919 as far as it used to be. You have to 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.720 carry them for one day on the active roster, and 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.920 that led to things like, you know, releasing Trent City 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.640 against the next days, right, so helps in that capacity. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:10.240 Mingo will be able to return as early as if 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.320 he's ready week four. After week four, I should say, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.040 twenty one day practice window could be activated then. And 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.320 then if they do activate the window and he's not 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.000 ready by the twenty first day, then he reverts to 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.640 season ending injured reserve. God, there are a lot of 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.040 translations missing a lot, there's a lot. Let's let's talk 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.280 about Mingo for a second though, because that that's going 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:34.200 to send ripple effects down the fifty three man roster conversation. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.640 As far as the wide receivers are concerned, Does that 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.200 help with Jalen Tobrit solidify? Was Jalen Tobrat already solidified? 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.960 Does that free up a spot for Flinoy, Trey Shawn Holding, 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.520 you know, getting kind of. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.400 That third segment that's gonna be a good kind of 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:49.840 fuck it. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.240 That's the thing is you would look at it as 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.240 who's at the best camp across the board, but also 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.440 who also has been I guess invest it in the 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:01.800 most and by the time and. 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.719 Body of work for Tolbert would say he's on the roster. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.160 Yes, I don't think anybody's really looking at Tolbert and 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.560 saying he's off the team right now. We'll play our 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.840 fifty three man game later in the show, but I 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.000 don't think Tolbert's really on that bubble. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:16.920 Flinoy might be. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.160 And so I think, if anything, this Mingo injury affects 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.040 Flinoy in his ability to be on the roster. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.360 I'm excited to get to the third segment in our game, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.600 like you're saying, to kind of start whittling down the 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:31.120 fifty three. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.040 I did it. It's a quality word, Oh yeah. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.880 Absolutely, But for me, I took it as an exercise 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.640 of just what I'm seeing. To your point, you're saying 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.280 how much they invested in players like Tolbird or maybe 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.960 like a fifty eight. You know, they invested in those 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:50.520 things that I didn't necessarily take into account, And I'm 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.480 saying that with my chest on a Tuesday. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.240 You know what I'm saying, I like it talking too spicy. 0:07:57.800 --> 0:07:59.760 The tease for the rest of the show, I don't know. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.000 I don't know Jim will see Jim. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.120 But yeah, the Cowboys, I mean, as they get ready 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.960 for this short week going into Friday's game against the 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.080 Atlanta Falcons preseason finale. We also have some news on 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:17.640 Jaydon Blue, Herb, Brian shot and Heimer. Jaydon Blue is 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:23.040 trending positively. Shottenheimer and the Cowboys are optimistic quote unquote 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.720 that he will that he has a great chance of 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.239 making his preseason debut in the finale against the Atlanta Falcons. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.480 That's a pretty big deal as you try to figure 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:32.640 out this running back. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.280 As is Jadon Blue, He's very optimistic. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.240 He tweeted about it yesterday and yeah, the hour glasses 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.360 running out and he said basically, it's time. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:41.600 Yeah, it is. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.000 We're ready to see Jayson Blue out there. We talked 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.680 to Tyler Guyton yesterday in the locker room. He said 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.240 that he is feeling much better. He's making a lot 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.520 of progress. Obviously he's not going to put a timeline 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.319 on it. But between speaking to Tyler got in, which 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.320 is something I've done frequently from the point of the injury. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.560 Out in Oxnar had some all the record conversations. We 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.040 had an on the record conversation yesterday in the locker room, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.240 and then we all talked to Brian Schottenheimer. All signs 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:14.080 are pointing positively toward a potential return for Week one 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.520 against the Philadelphia Eagles. Across your fingers that that holds true. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.240 But Barne is setback. He's still at this point on 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.640 track for that, and that is huge news. As the 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.520 Cowboys also still try to figure out what their left 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.200 tackle situation looks like in the absence of Tyler got 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.120 and obviously Nate Thomas has really started to take the 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.840 lead there. But don't count out a guy like a Dynergy. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:35.360 I think that's wide open. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.760 Yeah, the whole offensive line scenario is still wide isn't 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:40.240 it just because. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.319 They they haven't played particularly well? 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:47.520 Agreed with the exception games of two guys we saw 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:49.560 in preseason game. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.200 Okay, there's one and Tyler Booker. Yep, there's two. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:59.679 Tyler Booker allowed zero zero sattle pressures in past protection 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.920 and and his run his run grade was pretty damn high. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.440 You saw them running behind him quite frequently and he was, Uh, 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.160 he was moving bodies. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.440 T Booker is gonna get you, sucker. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.360 I liked what uh what shot he said yesterday when 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.760 he talked about T Booker is the fact that they 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.439 knew he was going to be a road grader on it. 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:24.640 That's why they drafted him. The pass protection is is 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.000 a separate thing. There was one play where I mean 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.760 it was just one on one. It wasn't taken on 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.079 a double team and facing two different guys or whatever 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.719 it may be. I mean he was pretty one on 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.600 one with a defender and he stood him up yep, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.840 and then pushed him back on a on a pass 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:45.080 block where the breakdown happened around him. There wasn't any space. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.360 He was on an island in at the guard spot, 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:48.000 which is not a. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:52.600 Good thing typically. Uh not. He was on an island, 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:53.600 but he handled his island. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.280 And I liked a couple of the reps that we 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.240 saw from Tyler Booker, and then I think run blocking 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.800 was good. Shoddy also mentioned if we have bb and 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:04.880 Booker out there, we should be able to run the 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.440 football better. They didn't. They didn't necessarily run the football 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.720 great thirty one to thirteen. The final scores the Ravens 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.600 beat the Cowboys in preseason Week two. Still a lot 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:20.760 of up and down there from the overall ground game and. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.480 Things like that. The offense was gross. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.439 Yeah, the offense was gross when you look at the 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:30.040 fact that going into halftime it was single digit net 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:32.719 gain yardage for the Cowboys offense. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.360 And then what they get second week in a row, 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:35.120 they did. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.840 The negative yardage on the ground. To your point, going 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.360 into the half against the Ravens, They've got to get 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.760 it fixed. I mean, there are positive positives to take away, 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.120 Tyler Booker being one, Cooper bb being one. Eventually in 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.280 the game, Jonathan Mingo, but now it comes to bad 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.280 news with Jonathan Mingo. There are some positives. I mean, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.079 Andrew Booth took a step forward with the pick six. Obviously, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.680 I still I love what Zion Childress is putting out there, 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.720 Kemon Hall is putting out there. But on the whole, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.640 the positive I would say is I think the defense. 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.080 The thirty one points to me is eventually the defense 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.400 got worn down and got tired. But for the most part, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.000 I saw a defense that was stopping, started to stop 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.839 them on the run, started to step up their red 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.640 zone defense. For the most part, at least over the 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.120 first two and a half quarters. I thought the run 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.400 defense down the stretch was not absolutely linebackers were hair 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:27.960 on fire. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.559 Linebackers are just linebackers, and they've been the most taste 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:32.400 so far. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.720 The Moone Clark this week, previous week, Marris Lea File. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.160 I like what jack Son jack Sanborn went out there. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.720 Absolutely, And we still haven't even seen Kenneth Murray yet 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.920 in preseason action. So I love what the linebackers are doing. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.720 So the defense I believe took a step forward from 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.959 week one to week two as far as preseason goes. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:50.400 I agree. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.400 However, hold on at this point, would you say linebackers 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.640 are strength of this team right now? 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.120 Right now? Strength? Crazy? 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.880 The defense on defense? Sure right now? Yes, sure crazy 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:04.720 to consider. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.400 Right it's crazy to consider over the past two seasons 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.000 for that to be the case. But my question more 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.840 so is like, is it surprising to you that in 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.760 one season they've changed from you know, arguably a weakness 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.280 to maybe the defense's greatest strength. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.960 I think part of that is you're so banged up 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.640 at corner. You don't have a ton of guys rotating 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.160 in as starters at corner. And you haven't seen it yet. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.000 The one guy that's out there and has played that 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.120 it is supposed to be a starter as Kyrie Elam. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.040 That's the only guy at corner. So I think that's 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.120 a factor. Of course, you don't have Michael Parsons out there, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.040 you don't have Dante Feller Junior out there, you don't 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.079 have Sam Williams for the. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:41.840 Most part out there. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.560 I mean, all of those things kind of play a 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.199 factor when you're saying, Wow, these linebackers look great. I 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.760 stood on the table for the offseason moves at linebacker. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.079 I liked the addition of Kenneth Murray. I liked the 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.640 addition of Jack Sanborn. I think this is a better 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.520 linebacker group now, especially when they get to Marvin overshown 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.960 back than they ever had in the past two or 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.520 three years, because of the depth that they have at 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.320 the position and the coach that they have running it 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.360 in Matti Eberflus. However, when you look at this defense, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.880 I still think it's going to be predicated off of 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.840 getting to the passer, still predicated off of getting pressures 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:20.240 and having Parsons and Dante Valler Junior and all these 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.640 guys that we've heralded over the last couple of years 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.920 is either early round draft picks or superstars at the position. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.200 That's who you have to rely on. And then we 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.440 can talk about the linebackers. So right now, as preseason 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.640 twenty twenty five continues, I would agree with you the 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.960 linebackers have been tremendous and they have been the stars 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.680 of the show on defense. But when we're building this 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:41.840 roster out and we're looking to what it will be 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.800 full strength, hopefully in twenty twenty five, I still think 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.320 it's the edge rushers that lead the way. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:47.640 Yeah. 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.360 I agree with everything that Kyle just said because from 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.640 a preseason standpoint, as we have the conversation, oh, the 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.560 show stealers are the linebackers right now? 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.560 Yeah, but two reasons this Leah has been great. You 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:00.960 haven't even mention him right now. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.280 I did, Oh sorry last week against the Rams, he 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.480 was just like unbelievable. As we have this conversation, the 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.640 linebackers are stealing the show for two reasons. Number One, 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.840 they put in the work. Number Two, they're being led 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.720 by coach Cuogonzo Borganzi and of course coordinated by linebackers 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.600 Guru and Eber Flus. All of those things matter, so 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.720 not to take away from them, but it's also true 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.120 that Michael Parsons isn't on the field yet, Sam Williams 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.320 isn't on the fiel yet, Dante Fowler is not on 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.880 the field yet, so forth and so on. So once 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.600 we get to the regular season, the strength of this 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.880 defense is absolutely going to be your defensive end. It's 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.200 absolutely going to be your past rush and the ability 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.800 to try to stop the run at those at those edges. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.200 But the linebacker corps is going to be and we're 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.400 seeing this bear itself out already. They're going to be 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:51.080 so pivotal in run support that they're going to be 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.800 the next most important unit on Matt Eberflus's defense. So 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.160 it's it's great to see knowing that that they can 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.320 get the job done, that they're really taking some stridge 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:00.680 right now. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.160 I say that because my point of it was, you're 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.840 not seeing a lot of defensive scheme out of I Refluse. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.480 He's playing base defense over the past two games. That 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.760 is why the linebackers are cleaning up across the board 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.480 because of it's not moving. He's not showing you anything 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.520 on corner wise, I mean the corners are playing, you know. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.400 Five eight yards off of receivers, so I. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.560 Just think that is indicative of them playing bass and 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:31.560 how good the linebackers are just in that assignments. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.040 And they're doing it without good defensive tackle. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:38.760 Play agree which is arguably really Yeah, number one, Josh, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.760 you're doing the hand thing. So I never want to 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.280 hear you tell me I'm doing the hand thing again, 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:43.560 because you were just hand. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:45.480 Thing. 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.880 He said, how I paced my words with the very 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:49.760 Jerry Madaline. 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.120 He said it behind the scenes something on the air. 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.760 We said it on the air too, and I just 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.320 caught him doing it, so I'm start doing it in 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.520 my camera shot. 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.520 It's a pacing ticket, it's a pacing technique. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.280 But the other thing with your hands, that's possible. I 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.040 do it all the time. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:12.000 That's a freaking Lolian I can, yes, you keep judging. So, yeah, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.920 there are concerns on defense defensive tackle. Being one cornerback 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.960 of position, you're in dire straits right now. You flip 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.040 to the offensive side of the ball. And outside of 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.000 Cooper BB and Tyler Smith, we know what he is 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.240 and Tyler Booker, they're trying to get Tyler guy in 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.640 back and figure out left tackle. Can Terence still get 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.040 back the top form? We'll see. Your running game is struggling. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.560 Your passing game is virtually non existing. In the preseason, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.240 Joe Milton again grated himself as a D D minus. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.080 He said after that game that he would have given 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.440 himself a C if not for the interception. I am 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:48.320 not there with. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.840 Him on that. That's a little generous. I do think. 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.400 I do think he flunked that that game against the Ravens, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.800 with the sole exception being better than it was worse 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.520 than we thought so too. It was worse than Week 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.159 one with the exception of that pass he made to 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:02.879 Jonathan Mingo. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:04.400 Now we'll give him credit. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:10.240 For the middle deep right scene pass to Jalen Cropper 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.560 that was a dot in the bucket, hit Cropper in 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.360 both hands, and he just couldn't. 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.920 That both of his completions in the first that would 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.119 have been both of his completions. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.960 So so for me, outside of that, I think he 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.919 regressed over the preseason opener, and that is just not 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.600 what you want to see from the young. 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.399 Quarterback, especially whenever Schottenhammer was talking yesterday like he didn't 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.320 necessarily you know, forgive all of those things. He's talking 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.840 about how Joe Milton needs to settle in much like 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.840 he settled in the second half against the Rams. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:39.720 This did feel like a regression. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.199 And then if you see him on the sidelines too, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.640 Joe Milton is sort of just in his head about everything. 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:47.760 Every pass feels, you know, like it's, of course, it's 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.840 this one opportunity to be the backup for Dak Prescott, 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.000 and you feel that when you look at him on 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.879 the sidelines, you feel that pressure on him versus you know, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.640 going out there and just trying to play ball. 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:06.480 Listen, you know, first three possessions for the Cowboys, you basically, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.440 as an offense led by Joe Milton, you basically did 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.240 nothing more than award two points to the Ravens defense. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.920 The awareness that the safety. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.600 With that blitz, that free blitzer coming off of your 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.600 sight side, you have to come off your read and 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.840 adjust and just realize where you are. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.840