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Speaker 2: It's called it a triple crown. And you did that

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Speaker 2: It's going to get back to people. It's a triple crown.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't be less. No, it couldn't be less.

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Speaker 2: I know, look the thumb. I don't think we've told

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Speaker 2: It's gotten worse. I need to sit you down. This

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Speaker 1: I actually haven't touched it in a while. So everyone,

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Speaker 2: Gretee picks at her nails until they bleep. That that's

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Speaker 1: Gonna say you thought of me when you saw grete

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't pick at my thumb. I

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Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, when you can come see My Lucky

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Speaker 2: I think the Lucky Thumb can be a new Christmas classic,

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Speaker 1: Image, likely waiting for Sanna gnawing on my lucky thumb.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the holiday spirit is stressing you out so much

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Speaker 1: We both have seen the Aerostore from very different settings.

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Speaker 1: Can we say yes? The reputation era was one the

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Speaker 2: That for sure. I think reputation fucking jolts you back

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Speaker 2: but then reputation, that fucking these title treatments for each

438
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: of the eras.

439
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: The snake going through the crowd.

440
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: I was like, I have never seen that was like

441
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: the first time I saw The Titanic on film, Sink

442
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 2: sink was the snake coming out of the fucking screen.

443
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 2: I went, damn, unreal, unreal and listen. Loved the secret songs. Yeah,

444
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: you can tell she loves you can tell she loves

445
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: reputation and folklore. Folklore I think took the longest eight up.

446
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: The most time.

447
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: I was talking to Dart and Patrick about like what

448
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: we would cut if we absolutely had to. And it's

449
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: so interesting because watching the actual error stour and thinking

450
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: what I would cut while in the concert is so

451
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 1: different than the film. What I would cut from the

452
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: film like tolerated, like on that show four times and

453
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: so tolerated. Okay, let's go oh really yeah, And then

454
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: she said Broadway in the erastour. What I was most

455
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: taken by in the whole time is how calm and

456
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: present she used. Because when you're seeing the concert, the

457
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: energy in the stadium, as I'm sure many of you know,

458
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: is so insane that for her to like even find

459
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: the camera and remain present and like be calm was

460
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: so just wild to see.

461
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is really plugged in. She is having fun.

462
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: I think she has leaned into this thing where it's

463
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: like she's just gonna be fun and literal and like

464
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: she has to play to the fucking nosebleeds, you know.

465
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's like, oh, be way, she's like

466
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: tapping her, She's like story pirates. She's doing story pirates.

467
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: And that's what we're taught in parts is you gotta

468
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: play to the back round.

469
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: Like big actions, big objectives, must be so clear. You're

470
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 1: making me feel like I'm the man. Get the typewriters out,

471
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: get the desks, Okay, I'm gonna say this bravely. Let

472
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I heard that she cut Wildest

473
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: Dreams from the movie, and I text bowing two words

474
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: hate her, hate her. She knows what she did. She

475
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: disrespected a lot of people with that decision. If you

476
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: saw her in person, would you say that I said,

477
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: I hate you. No, I wouldn't even I wouldn't even

478
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: say it to her. I would go up to Travis

479
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: and I point to her and I'd say hate her,

480
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: hate her, and she'd laugh. Did you know they were coming? No,

481
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: they just can't. They just can't came. And it was

482
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: a dress rehearsal. It's like, great, that was fun.

483
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 2: I'm in my room getting stuff, you know, tiding up

484
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: my room. I had people watching for my dressing room

485
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: for the air show. I walk outside it, go to

486
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: my makeup chair. I see two people talking to two

487
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: tall people.

488
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: You said, tallest people in the world, in the world,

489
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: by the way, it's one thing to see them individually

490
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: many times.

491
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: But it's purefol multiplier. It's like I see them together.

492
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: I go, oh, no, I'm in the redwood for us. Yeah,

493
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm in the redwood for us.

494
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: Might as well have been ever more staging. It might

495
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: as well have the trees were so tall. Folklore staging.

496
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: No Mama, no mama. The ever more staging is the

497
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Speaker 1: tree or the.

498
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: Staging, but the folklore album cover.

499
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that we just missed each other there,

500
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: But we're really saying the same thing. And tall trees,

501
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: tall tree paint, Tree Pain is tall. I mean, here's

502
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: the thing. She has to stand in the industry.

503
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: She's a giant, a titan of this industry. She should

504
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: be tall.

505
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. What you're saying is you're like Meryl Streep and

506
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: big little lives. You don't trust small people.

507
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: We are on the Hunter Harris bandwagon, where we are

508
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: saying Amy Adams, please do the Tree Paid biopic.

509
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: You must.

510
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: She is destined for that. That's the oscar. She's getting

511
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: the oscar for the Tree Pain biopic. Country Harris has

512
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 2: been writing about this on her step stack for years.

513
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: This is what it needs to be. And I haven't

514
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: read this substack, so I don't know exactly what planning.

515
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: And I think anyone should write this. It should h her.

516
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: But this is my pitch. I think the Tree Pain

517
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: biopic should be like the two Hours after Kim and

518
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: Kanye first, what they did. I want to see like

519
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: real time Taylor. Yeah, I want to see real time

520
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: pr handling. I want to see ultimately at the end

521
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: of the movie. It should be shot like zero dark thirty,

522
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: And I want to see ultimately at the end of

523
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: the movie. Remember when zero Dark thirty, when Jessica Chesting

524
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: gets on the plane and she finally has a moment

525
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: where she can break down and sob oh my, zero

526
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: dark thirty not on top of mind for you.

527
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: Right, another iconic Redhead film.

528
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yes. And also, Jessica is going to be mad

529
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: that we didn't pitch her for It's Amy.

530
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jessica, you've you You're fine.

531
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: She's literally fine. You've You've done a lot. You don't

532
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: need this. Yeah. What is she doing right now? She's

533
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: doing something like that that Tim Tammy thing. What Tim Tammy,

534
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: the Timmy Whynette. Yeah, the Timmy Wynette thing, Jessica Chastain

535
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: is what we're saying is you're busy, George and Tammy.

536
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said, Tim, Well, that's like

537
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: last year, George and Tammy. I forget what she's doing.

538
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: But she is doing something right now, and Jessica Chastain

539
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: is kind of always doing something. It's actually really told

540
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: your number ninety nine. Jessica Chastain is kind of always

541
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: doing something.

542
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: Can I say what the fact that I thought George

543
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: and Tammy was this year? I'm so out of the

544
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: loop with Jessica. It's hard to find things sometimes she's

545
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: not triple crowning. Can I say this isn't my I

546
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: don't think so, honey. Okay, but I don't think so

547
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: honey that they just took I love that.

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: For you like off you can't watch it. It's crazy.

549
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: I've always like, I've always been that kind of person

550
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: that's like, oh no, that would feel so bad to

551
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: be in one of the things that they just take

552
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: off streaming.

553
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: We're not. No one's immune. I'm so sorry.

554
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: I'm scared for Fire Island.

555
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: Like no, I'm really scared for Fire Island to be honest.

556
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?

557
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I think the fact that it's gotten

558
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: like some awards and nominations is a good sign, and

559
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: the fact that it's searchlight is good. But I'm also like, please, please,

560
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: please please please at least put this on like airplanes.

561
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: That's my thing.

562
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was someone. There was someone out there who

563
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: was like, I fought to get the physical copy of

564
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: my thing because I don't trust the streamers. Now I

565
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I guess that is important booster.

566
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: Not to trigger anybody. Also, not a scab. Get it

567
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: off this topic. Yeah, anyway, what were we talking about

568
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: tree Pain biopic? Oh? It should be the two hours

569
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: after the Kim and Kanye thing, and we should see

570
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: tree Pain jump into action and handle shit. And at

571
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: the end, I believe she has a moment to herself,

572
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: maybe in a car or a closet, which is just

573
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: three uninterrupted minutes of her finally just like having a

574
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: release because she has had to be so strong as

575
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: Taylor Schof's publicist, and Amy would finally win the Oscar.

576
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: Amily would win the Oscar. Do you think it's a

577
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: thing where we never see Taylor in the film.

578
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we never see her.

579
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean it really selfishly pitch something.

580
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: You want to be in it.

581
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I think we should be in it.

582
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: I think we.

583
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Should be in it because I agree, but I think

584
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: we should be in it in this way playing ourselves.

585
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: Fuck.

586
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 2: I think the movie becomes a backdoor pilot for the

587
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: Matt and Bowen biopic television show. I know it's a movie,

588
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: but the movie is the back door for the show,

589
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: and it ends the movie ends slash. The show starts

590
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: with the phone call that Tree and I had while

591
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: I was laying over in the Madrid airport passing hot

592
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: Spanish guy after hot Spanish guy. I fucking each one

593
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: of them them, I fucking mee. Yeah, I was like,

594
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: this is Spanish man, what is going on? I mean,

595
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: while I'm on the phone with Tree Paine discussing the

596
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: particulars and the contract obligations of would Taylor be interested

597
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: in sending a video to the Culture Awards?

598
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

599
00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: And Tree Pain was powerful professional, Miss Pain was pain.

600
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: And then the show starts with the Culture Awards You.

601
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: And I waving, waving, and then we see finally her

602
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: have three moments of a breakdown because she has had

603
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: to be so strong in dealing with you on the phone.

604
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: She's had to Bowen has been such a nightmare on

605
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: the phone. It's been Bowen is he's so difficult to

606
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: deal with him in Hollywood since he's become you know,

607
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, Big Bowen, since he's since he's become the legend.

608
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: I was proud of you doing Columbus. Your Italian accent

609
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: was giving me. What was it giving?

610
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: Me? Said, yeah, which I loved.

611
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: It was fun. I worked hard on it. And yet

612
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: some people you work hard all the time, that was

613
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: never in doubt.

614
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Some people who you know, do this. The Sunday morning

615
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: write ups were not as impressed, and I went, oh,

616
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: that's fine.

617
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: You know what.

618
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: I realized, this is me being real and people can

619
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: rollerize at this.

620
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.

621
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it's fun to like root for me anymore.

622
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: And it's and it's okay. I don't think that's true.

623
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: I kind of you think when you roll out.

624
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: There and make an update, they're like, oh, here we go.

625
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: I think this one I'm gonna say in the moment,

626
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: oh this is so fun, I'm so lucky.

627
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

628
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: And then I think, once it kind of passes through

629
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: the internet thing, it's like, oh, let's that's not.

630
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something on the internet not good.

631
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty bad. And also I remember like when

632
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: you first got on and like people were like there

633
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: was just like the troll thing, and you would come

634
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: to me and be like the trolls online are so mean.

635
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: They're saw me and they're so mean. I finally got

636
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: like a little taste of it because whenever I go

637
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: on watch it Happens live.

638
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh, these people are they are. It's it's like these

639
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: people are like the scorched scum on steel of the soul.

640
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Like troll culture is like so real still, and I'm like, oh,

641
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: this is with everything going on in the goddamn world,

642
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: Like this is what this is what people get so

643
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: deep about. I'm like some gig guys spouting off on

644
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: watch what happens anyways. It's just no nuanced conversations on

645
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: the internet, I think, as we can.

646
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: See of course, anyway, I didn't need to masturbate in

647
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: front of everybody.

648
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: What you don't know is that bell what is that

649
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: his dick at his hand in front of me for

650
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: the last thirty five minutes and I said, bowen, this

651
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: doesn't feel appropriate to me. And this is like I said,

652
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm in my I'm in my own home. Yeah, And

653
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I said, this is what I need hr on this podcast.

654
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: I should have them on speed dial. Yes, Well, did

655
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I tell you I met something strack the other night?

656
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: You did? And can you can we know what she said. Yeah,

657
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: we can know what she said.

658
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: I basically I know what she said, but I want

659
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: I want everyone to know it.

660
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: No, So we ran into each other at this restaurant

661
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and I went up to her and

662
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, my god, Hi. She said, I

663
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: feel like I know you, and I was like, I mean,

664
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: it's so great to meet you. You're my favorite. And

665
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: she goes, well, don't go that far. That is I

666
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: loved it, and then walked away. And I was like,

667
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: you are my favorite and she was like I don't know.

668
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: And I was like you and she was like running away.

669
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I believe she might have been on a date. She

670
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: was with a gentleman.

671
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: That makes me very happy to hear.

672
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: Well. I was debating whether or not to go up

673
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: to her, and Greta and Ayb were like, you should

674
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: go up to her. If she's on a date. This

675
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: will make her like look cool, you know, et cetera. Oh,

676
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: that's great, that's great. And I bet she felt really

677
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: good about it. I mean, I don't know how she felt.

678
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: She got either shy or incredibly furious that I said

679
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: to her, you're my favorite, or was she being fa

680
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: humble prechance, perchance to dream to dream.

681
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: Speaking of housewives, did you watch Rone last night?

682
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: So I have to say something about Ronie, which is

683
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: that I think it's gotten really good towards the end

684
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: of the season, and I'm sad to see a villains

685
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: so clearly emerged, because I can tell this person did

686
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: not think they were going to be this. This is

687
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: it was really two.

688
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: This is what we're all saying. Yes, Cian, Aaron, they're

689
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: so fucking lame. You know.

690
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: Here's what I think. I think that Cy what I

691
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: get from her sometimes is like I think her energy

692
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: and her face value. I think that she's a good person,

693
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: and the essence of Si is cool. Yeah, I think

694
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: the essence of her is better than her behavior. Right,

695
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't really make sense to be like I don't care,

696
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: like I'm better than this that like, and to really

697
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: be so dismissive and then to have pretty much your

698
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: entire storyline be that your head is all the way

699
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: up Jessel's ass. And what I would say is that

700
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I think that the Internet is a little hard on.

701
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: SI because I just don't I know, she's not making

702
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: a great case for herself. I think it's actually quite

703
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: it rarely happens, but it's quite evenly proportioned, you think,

704
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: because I mean the storyline is her head's up Jessel's ass.

705
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Even to the finale, it's still about the snacks and

706
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: the cheese and the food. I'm like, give it up,

707
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Jessel really won the season. I'll sugg the season walked

708
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: away with it CI And I'm gonna say Brin. I

709
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: know Brin's like the other favorite, but like both of

710
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: their things, even with Brin's invitation, I mean, like, bring

711
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: the person that you've had sex what they want to

712
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: have sex with. I'm like, this is not me being

713
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: prudish or sex negative. I'm like, it's everything that comes

714
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: out of your mouth is about fucking boobs, dicks, whatever,

715
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: what like. And then her whole thing about like settling

716
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: down with the man, it's about like he needs to

717
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: read the economist.

718
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you nineteen?

719
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: I think she doesn't know what she wants right, and

720
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: I can relate to that one thousand percent. But back

721
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: to cy then nobody cares thing. It's like you're screaming

722
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: at the most at the weirdest, craziest register about how

723
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: much you you don't care. What did you say at

724
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: one point in the episode, don't call me a.

725
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: Mean girl, you fucking bitchy, Okay, don't call me a

726
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: mean girl, you fucking bitch is kind of iconic. I

727
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: will say I didn't like I did not like Povt

728
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: calling bitch. I did not like Pavot in the last episode,

729
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: being like she's bipolar. Pavit needs to sort of a

730
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: lot of it down there. I understand, Like it can't

731
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: feel good to like be the object of all this.

732
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: It's just weird too, because I feel like Jessel and

733
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: Povet are so obviously good. Yeah, I feel like they're

734
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: actually a picture of a pretty good relationship. Like and

735
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: the sex thing is it's just like that's like centering

736
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: sex in a relationship in a way. That's just like

737
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: I think says like you're saying much more about all

738
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: of them than it does about JESSELA and Povitt, Right,

739
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

740
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 2: I realized, Oh, the whole season has been like these

741
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: two women, Aaron and Ci interrogating, examining, turning over every

742
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: rock about the marriage, Jessel's background. Yeah, and I for

743
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: why for why for what? For why for Who's for perchance?

744
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Perchance here's a question for you. Do you think a

745
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: gen alliance wants to be on the show and be

746
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: will return to the show. I think she'll return, And

747
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: I think this is the most we've talked about Jenna

748
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Lions in a long time, and I think she likes that,

749
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: And I don't blame her. I love that, you know,

750
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: she wants to sell her eyelashers. She wants to explain

751
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: why her teeth are all new, Like she like she

752
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: has a platform to like tell people who she is,

753
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: why she does what she does. I think she's come

754
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: off very well.

755
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just feel like it's really interesting to see

756
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: her like take this platform and like she's like, I'm

757
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: going to do it on my own terms. And in

758
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: that I both respect that because it's like, yeah, who

759
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: says that you have to do housewives the way everyone

760
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: else does housewives? At the same time, when Housewives is

761
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: happening around you, you do have to kind of need

762
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: to hate in it otherwise you're going to get left

763
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: behind in the narrative.

764
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: Totally.

765
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: I just would like to see her play a little

766
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: bit more.

767
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: Do you think if Uba continues to date this man

768
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: in Connecticut? I would be annoyed? If she did not,

769
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: if she still kept him away from the.

770
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: Show, Uba Uba, I think we will not see him

771
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: kept over in the show.

772
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: I think he'll be on the show. It's just early

773
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: days and like, of course you don't bring him on there.

774
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: She's moving in silence because because she knows, well, we

775
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: see what happens when you make a mistake. The wolves

776
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: and the sharks come out to hunt, to hunt, and

777
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: they hunted, and then we saw that in the finale. Yeah, hunting,

778
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: and guess what, that's a little bit what they're all

779
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: there to do. They're there to hunt.

780
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: Totally. Well, the SI having that meltdown, I'm like, you're

781
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: just upset that you got caught. That was so obvious.

782
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were oct You said you would do one

783
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: thing and did another, and it was on camera.

784
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: The image that size trying to protect, the person that

785
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: size trying to be on camera is not at all

786
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: lined up with the person she actually is, and therefore

787
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 2: she is now this villain where she banked on other

788
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: women being the unfavorites.

789
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: It's really hard to say. My thing is I'm cool

790
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: and unbothered and you're screaming, and you're you're a screaming

791
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, you know, but like that's this is the thing,

792
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: is like what I wish for, and I don't think

793
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I know that this is another unpopular opinion. I want

794
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: to see everyone come back, and I think they should

795
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: add one. I know I'm in the minority opinion here,

796
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: but I would like to see Liam McSweeney on these

797
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: with this cast. Personally, I think she makes the most

798
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: sense and I think it will be nice and be

799
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: invigorating for the show to have someone want bridge right,

800
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: because Leah never fit in with that group anyway totally.

801
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: She was so much younger than them, She was so

802
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: much different than them. She was so much hipper than them.

803
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say cooler. She was just like

804
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: an edge that they could literally couldn't handle. So conversation

805
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: would just break down because like it was Ramona and

806
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: Leah and who.

807
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Cares they're speaking a different language.

808
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: Like I think that Leah and Si would be an

809
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: interesting vibe. I think that Leah and Brinn would be

810
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: a fun vibe. I think like one of the only

811
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: people that would literally say to Jenna Lyons like what

812
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: the fuck? Like why aren't you? Why are that better

813
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: than us? Is someone like Leah and I know that

814
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: Leah did not slay the Ultimate Girl's Trip, and people

815
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: have their ideas about why and who she is, et cetera.

816
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, her second season was that's certainly not as

817
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: strong as her first, And that has nothing to do

818
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: with sobriety just has to do with like, I don't know,

819
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: maybe where she was at in her life, but like,

820
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: I think that Leah is watchable and dynamic and would

821
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: fit in with this cast and would give it a

822
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: boost next season. Perchance the like edge and danger.

823
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: That it needs a chance to dream. That's how you

824
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: make a very good case. I was not totally on

825
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: board when you first proposed this, but now this persuasive.

826
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: Girl persuasion the new fragrance by Matt Bye. See the

827
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: thing is, when I start to do my fragrances, it

828
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: will not be as Matt Rogers. It will just be Matt.

829
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 2: Do you agree that the name Matt is really powerful?

830
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: No?

831
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: I think it is. Whenever someone says Matt, I hear

832
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 2: you saying it Matt, and I smile. Does that make sense?

833
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: It makes sense why you would smile when hearing my name.

834
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: Love you, sister, But I don't think the name holds power.

835
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: What I think is frustrating about my name Matt is

836
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: that approximately billions have it as well. And I will

837
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: also say that when you go on to Spotify and

838
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: you put type in Matt Rogers still American Idol guy,

839
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: it's a country singer named Matt Rogers, and then there's me,

840
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: and then there is an American Idol contestant obviously who's

841
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: also like a TV host. So it's like I sort

842
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: of can't do anything in this goddamn town. I know

843
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: you don't like goddamn, but that's how I'm describing the town.

844
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, damn, I'm saying goddamn in song. I know,

845
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: I know, but you know, it's just so many people

846
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: are Matt Rogers, and yet I feel like I have worked.

847
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you it's so hard to establish my attention.

848
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: We get like this, like you are a monoonymously Boeen,

849
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: you know you could be.

850
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: It's not monique, It's truly not.

851
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: I forgot your last name. I don't know you're mononymous

852
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: to me. Beyonce Madonna Bowen. Did you see clips from

853
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: the celebration tour? I did not see clips in it

854
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: looks looks good.

855
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: She looks good. Yeah, I am excited. I hope to go.

856
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I hope to go to That would be really fun. Barklay.

857
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: The set list is just I mean, it's Madonna's Madonna.

858
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: Is she doing Barclays.

859
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: She's doing Barclays in December.

860
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 1: That's gonna be hard. Oh December. I can't go. I'm

861
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: on tour by tickets at www dot Matt Rodgers Official

862
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: Dark I cancel the tour. No, I can't. Okay, I

863
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: just love my fans too much.

864
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: I think the fans would be more excited to see

865
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: you than Madonna. I will live and have slight regrets

866
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: if I don't see Madonna on what maybe her last tour.

867
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: But I will really, really, really really hate myself if

868
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: I don't go to see you.

869
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: Somebody said, really messed up. Got tickets to see Matt

870
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: Rogers and the Countess Slew on the same night. What

871
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: do I do? And I said, girl, you know what

872
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: to do. I'll see you at the show. Come on.

873
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: Lou's been doing it for a minute. She's making trips

874
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: around the sign Madison Luke can never which is release

875
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: an album?

876
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

877
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry she lude knows this.

878
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: I think that album from Lou would be major.

879
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think I.

880
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: Want to hear the Lou ballad.

881
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that Lou has the work ethic she's

882
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: up there. I'm just saying like, she doesn't have the hunger.

883
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 2: I think she's so hungry. I think she's as hung

884
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: as John ham and that gay on the beach screaming shark,

885
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: the three hungry and hung icons, Lou Anne, John Hamm.

886
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: The shark guy, and fag who cried SHARKA who cried shark.

887
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Do you think he's upset that we called him a fact?

888
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: I think so.

889
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Literally, we were still on the island and the episode

890
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: came out anywhere, and I was at the canteen getting

891
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: some breakfast, and then one of the shop owners, Oh no,

892
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: walked up to me and said, we loved your episode.

893
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: And the guy who was telling everybody about the sharks,

894
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, called me this morning and said he was

895
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: he felt really embarrassed. I said, oh no, that's not

896
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: what that was. Now we were saying no, no, no,

897
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: we were truly hailing him as a hero. We were

898
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: just kind.

899
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: Of he was right, he was right. I said, I

900
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: want to do a film based on him. I literally

901
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: want to do a film based on him, which is

902
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: he's getting the life rights check. This is what I

903
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: want is I do think it could be a great opportunity,

904
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: like artistically, to play someone who literally no one believes.

905
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the shark rises up

906
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: at the end and we all gasped because they were like,

907
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, he was right, and like that is

908
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: a term of endearment.

909
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, like, come on, oh please, we only

910
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: use it endearingly. I've ever called someone I do not

911
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: like a fagot on my life, never have no only icons,

912
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: only icons, truly, and he count as one of them.

913
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: Where we say, oh, Housewives, anything to say about salt Lake?

914
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: Interesting development? Last week? I was writing on Tuesday. Now,

915
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: I don't get to watch salt Lake the night that

916
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: they air because I'm working. But you and Cud were

917
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: watching it together last week, and you both shocked me

918
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: with statement you knew what it was, say what it was.

919
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: You're both team and Angie. Now, oh we can't say that.

920
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm team Angie now, it's that. After that,

921
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: I deeply understood Angie why this would feel so harmful,

922
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: because the way that her husband broke down. I was like, Okay,

923
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: two things. One, I believe these people are actually fine

924
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: and discussions about her. And I also think being team

925
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: Angie doesn't mean anti Meredith because I actually don't think

926
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: she's I don't believe that Meredith as a glad girly

927
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: like her husband's game. I think it must be something else. Meredith,

928
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: how much what happened?

929
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: Said someone at one of her questions from the audience

930
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: was was the rumor that you were talking might ever

931
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: get discussed? And she goes, I never discussed it, and

932
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: then Andy goes, well, that's not what I'm talking about.

933
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: And Meredith never never spread that rumor.

934
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said she knew a rumor and would go there,

935
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean it's necessarily the same thing. I

936
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: think that there's some well whatever, and I think, I

937
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is like one, I don't think

938
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: that their marriage is like weird. And two, I think

939
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: if he is gay alone, it doesn't feel good to

940
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: watch this guy fucking break down like this. I mean,

941
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: he loves his daughter, he has love for his wife.

942
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what form that takes, whatever it is,

943
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: it is clearly real and therefore like, oh, but it's

944
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: getting to the point now where it's just like I

945
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: guess if you go on one of these reality shows,

946
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: like and your husband's like, hey, I don't know, and

947
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: you're like no, no, no, it's like you can't make

948
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: him that promise. It's like every single one of these

949
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: women is bloodthirsty to destroy your marriage. Yeah, it's like

950
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: Cyan Aaron looking for something wrong with jesselin Povit like

951
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: literally desperately needing there to be something wrong with them

952
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: to prove what my thing is.

953
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: That it's just I mean, Giselle fucking does this. It's

954
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: like constantly, it's like let's say, like I don't know,

955
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: like tameran Oc or whatever, Like it's low hanging fruit.

956
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: At this point, it's so well traa that I'm like,

957
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: I actually don't give a fuck if someone's marriage is

958
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: on the rocks in one of these shows. It's not

959
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: what I'm it's not why I'm want.

960
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: Or if the marriages are on the rocks, like let's

961
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: see it play out between the couple, you know what

962
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it just feels like it always feels

963
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: like when someone on any reality show, it comes for

964
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: someone else's marriage. It will always read to me as

965
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: you are not personally compelling enough to carry your own acting,

966
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: and that is something I will give Jenna alliance is

967
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: she is personally compelling enough so that she can barely

968
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: engage with what's going right and for us to still

969
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: be like Jenna Jenna and to still be like, oh wow,

970
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: she's so great, She's an icon. We have to make

971
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: it a little bit of a shorter episode today, so

972
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: we're going to transition into I don't think so, honey,

973
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: and personally I don't think so, honey. I believe could

974
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: be elaborated on. So I want to get into it.

975
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I love a conversation starter. I the conversations with you

976
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: in general. Girl.

977
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: You know that's reciprocally.

978
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: My favorite conversationalist. I always say that, I don't know

979
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: speaking of we will be in conversation with Betty gopin

980
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: ninety second Street Why October twenty second, and we are

981
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: going to be losing that as an episode. We are

982
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: I'd also be live streamed.

983
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: It'll be on the YouTube. I don't know that it

984
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: will be released.

985
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: On art okay, So just know that I deeply want

986
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: to provide it as an episode and so does Bowen

987
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: and just stay tuned. But you'll never know. So if

988
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: you feel like it is any doubt, just come see us.

989
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: Okay, we're so excited we should say that, I Donny

990
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: is our one minute segment where we each take a

991
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: minute to really get something in culture that's grinding our gears.

992
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: That's the expression Matt Rodgers will go first. This is

993
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many times starts it.

994
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Honey, Will and Jada, I'm so

995
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: tired of it. They're so annoying, like you might have

996
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: to be brought to the Red table if that's your

997
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: real name, because now we know the red table has

998
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: been if red is the color of honesty and truth,

999
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: well this has not been very read. You're so ready.

1000
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: Why are you saying, like why have we been engaging

1001
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: in your relationship if it's not been an actual thing

1002
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: for seven years?

1003
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Like thirty seconds?

1004
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: What is this? And I'm so over in general and

1005
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: trailer Swelsey, I have to say this too, but like

1006
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: this like thing of like promoting your own relationship feels

1007
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: a little weird to me and icky to me, like

1008
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: less with them because it's like exciting and blah blah blah,

1009
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: and that's like, you know, part of it. I'm just

1010
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: bothered by the Will and Jada thing because it feels

1011
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: like both weird and dishonest and annoying at this point,

1012
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: what was the slap for if your marriage hasn't been real?

1013
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: That's one minute. Yes, it's not that they owe us

1014
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: anything at the time that these things develop, but it's

1015
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: that like, oh, you are creating these really exhausting media

1016
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: narratives around your marriage when it was when it was

1017
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: always a shamp Yeah.

1018
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: I guess that's my thing is it's just like you

1019
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: ask us to engage to you ask discuss to engage

1020
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: for years and years and years. You are Will and Jana.

1021
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: You came to the red table, right, and now it's

1022
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: like it just feels like, huh.

1023
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, that was a very good conversation starter.

1024
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: Thank you. And that's what we have here, honest conversations.

1025
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: I have one that's kind of it's a reaction to

1026
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: something that I just witnessed.

1027
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay Bowen has witnessed something in the culture, and therefore

1028
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: he comes to his podcast Last Culturcist to discuss it.

1029
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: And thank god, this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey.

1030
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: His time starts now.

1031
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. This new Wonka trailer that

1032
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: just made me sit down and watch he didn't make me.

1033
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 2: I was curious, but I watched it, and I my

1034
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 2: jaw was on the floor. I'm not gonna blame Timothy

1035
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: for this, but like tennis ball acting, we had to

1036
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: figure out something better. Timothy is not acting in the

1037
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: same movie as Hugh grit It's so clear they were

1038
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: never on set the same day. I'm sure they were,

1039
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: but the eye lines, the registers, the tone seconds all

1040
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: completely misaligned in any given moment of this trailer, and

1041
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure whole film also.

1042
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna apply the same thing we did

1043
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: like fifteen second twelve years ago to movies these like

1044
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: prequel origin story movies. I think we're done. It's so tired,

1045
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: Like it's so tired.

1046
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: And I think we couldn't even get it right with

1047
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: Maleficon Angelina, Like that's that, that's this composite.

1048
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: I guess, like I don't.

1049
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: We love Willie Wonka, we love the man and the chocolate,

1050
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: but not the story.

1051
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I just don't know who asked

1052
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 1: for a new Wonka. I don't know that we needed this,

1053
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: and that makes me feel like, obviously it's just because

1054
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: it's so beloved property, Like, but is it, like do

1055
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: people care about this?

1056
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Charlie and the chocolate factory is it's monoculture.

1057
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: It's like totally nos and.

1058
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's about Beloved's covertison.

1059
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it's research. I think it's market research being like, well, hey,

1060
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers, like, we haven't done anything with this in

1061
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: a while.

1062
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to predict that something's gonna do badly,

1063
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: but I think this is gonna bomb. I'm predicting this

1064
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: is gonna bomb. Here's what I think. Two things. I

1065
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: predict Wonka is gonna bomb. I Predictmingirls musical will be huge.

1066
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: It's the Taylor Barbie thing. M hmm.

1067
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 2: It's like the reason Paramount moved it off of Paramount

1068
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: Plus and into theaters was because they were like, oh right,

1069
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: these are the people who are paying for movie tickets

1070
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: right now.

1071
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: First of all, enough for nothing, but like Mingirls shouldn't

1072
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: ever have been going to Paramount Plus. Mingirls is a huge,

1073
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: relevantes like cultural thing that people would want to.

1074
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: Revisit for twenty years, it's been relevant. It's crazy.

1075
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I think anyone didn't like the musical, probably because like

1076
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: I personally feel like when you put something on Broadway,

1077
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: it kind of sucks edge out of something like Mean Girls,

1078
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: which is like ingols are so cool because it's so

1079
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: funny and edgy and bitchy and fun and said something

1080
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: and was like, you know, it was able to create

1081
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: new things, whereas like a Broadway version of that literally

1082
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: taking place on a stage just kind of like you

1083
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: can't necessarily be like.

1084
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: Edgy and enough and it has to be for like

1085
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: the moms and the dead who are flying their teens

1086
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: in to watch.

1087
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is like a movie version of even the

1088
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: musical can feel edgy and cool and it looks great

1089
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: and Renee looks so sligh in it's yeah, that line

1090
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: reading was that's how you am. The trailer it's so

1091
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: Renee get in, lose there or whatever. Yes, And I

1092
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: love that she's not copying Rachel. I know.

1093
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, she's smarter than them.

1094
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she's really fucking good. Yeah.

1095
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh it seems like a great cast.

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00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a lot of fun I was happy

1097
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: to see tim Meadows and Tina are in it, sigh, sleigh,

1098
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: and I will be there. And here's the thing is,

1099
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: it's like, mean girls, I know I'll be there, Wonka,

1100
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: I know I won't. Yeah, you know you won't. And

1101
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: I love Timmy. I mean like, oh to say nothing

1102
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: of a Levia. And that's another thing. I was like, Wow,

1103
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: she's in this huh and it's not enough for me?

1104
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: Can possibly be you know what I'm saying, mean girls,

1105
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: does you know what the thing that people overlook in

1106
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: meingirls The moral of that entire story is at the

1107
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: athletes competition where it's I know it like is the

1108
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: climax the film for Katie, But I always forget this

1109
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: part and it's it is the whole point of the

1110
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: movie is where she's like she has a snaggletooth, she

1111
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: has like she's a lipstick and then she goes, I

1112
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: realized making fun of this person is not going to

1113
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: help me solve this problem. Yeah, and I'm like, that's

1114
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: the whole part of the movie. Being mean is does

1115
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: not make you.

1116
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: Better better, It doesn't help anyone.

1117
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't help a given situation, like listen, we're on

1118
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: a pop culture podcast where we like make fun of

1119
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: things all the time. But it's not for like, hopefully

1120
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: if we're doing our jobs right. It's not to like

1121
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: aggrandize ourselves. No, it's I would never ever, ever, and

1122
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't think either of us think we're better than

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00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: a single fucking thing we talk about, and that is ever, ever, ever.

1125
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: But I will say I think what we want to

1126
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: end this podcast on is to say cig being mean

1127
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: to Jessel is not gonna make you better, period, period.

1128
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: And that's why we wanted to talk about Wonka was

1129
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: to get to sign and I mean calling someone mean

1130
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: girl is a pretty heavy thing because of that movie.

1131
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: And you know, speaking of meanirl culture, one of the

1132
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: most iconic bitchy songs and the highlight of the Aroostar

1133
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: movie is what we're gonna end the podcast on today.

1134
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: Oh look what you made me do? Look what you

1135
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: made me do? Look what you just made me do?

1136
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: Look what you just made me? Iconic abuser language made

1137
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Speaker 1: pop fine