WEBVTT - How the Musketeers Worked

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>think it's becoming painfully obvious why we haven't won any

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<v Speaker 1>awards the more we talk about this. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Um. Are you doing good? Uh? I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you getting sucked for Comic Con? It's like two

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<v Speaker 1>days dude. Well, and by the time this is out

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<v Speaker 1>will be like long since I've pooped our pants on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and laughed at Yeah, yeah, but the horror. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited though, Sure, San Diego, let's do it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go right now. Yes, just wait a day. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, Chuck, I have a proposal that we

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<v Speaker 1>speak about the Musketeers. Uh, let's hear it. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm not handling this one by myself. Just take

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<v Speaker 1>it away. Uh. Can you imagine how long that episode

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<v Speaker 1>would be if I just discoursed on the Musketeers alone?

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<v Speaker 1>About you just keep going and an infinite loop. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever heard of a little candy company named Mars? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Nowadays I think it's Eminem's Mars, but back then it

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<v Speaker 1>was just Mars, My Stars, My stars. How does Mars

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<v Speaker 1>make such wonderful candy bars? How old are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>forty one. And my grandfather used to say that it

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<v Speaker 1>brings back like great memories. That was like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things Granddaddy Mills did. I'm sorry to tarnish it

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<v Speaker 1>with that's all right? Um, okay, Well, this company Mars

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<v Speaker 1>that your grandfather liked, and rightly so, Mars bar is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest all time candy bars. Ever, you're

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<v Speaker 1>crazy if you say what's in the Mars bar? New

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<v Speaker 1>Get caramel almonds. It's just this great milane of flavors.

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<v Speaker 1>The almonds are what really do it? It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the thinking man Snickers, there's some peanut butter in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm on board. Hey, I'm with you too. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is long before anybody ever thought to put peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter in anything besides maybe a sandwich. Um, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Mars company released a candy that they called, very appropriately,

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<v Speaker 1>in my my opinion, the Three Musketeers. Today, you pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a three Musketeers bar, you're like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>does this mean? Um? Back then, you could very easily

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what it meant because it was three pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of milk chocolate covered nougat in three different flavors, vanilla, chocolate,

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<v Speaker 1>and strawberry. Hence three Musketeers, three different pieces, three different flavors.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's three different flavors all in one single rapper. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like you pulled the rapper back. You're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's three, Like, which one do I want? Value? Which

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to give to my little brother? It

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<v Speaker 1>was you give your little brother, probably the strawberry, one strawberry, vanilla, chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like neopolcher. I didn't realize that. I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea that there were three. It makes sense now because

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<v Speaker 1>now when you open it up, you're like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it. It's one candy bar. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's named after a novel, a classic novel. Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that segue, because I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to get out of this one. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>whipped myself into a quagmire. Today, today we've got three

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<v Speaker 1>Musketeers that are just the chocolate nougat. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>classic novel written by Alexandra Duma. I checked pronunciation. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>even try me on that. I listened to a Frenchman.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you listen to a Frenchman say it. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>website called farvo dot com. People's names names. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. And one thing I realized reading this

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't think we have We don't get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mail from uh, the French. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>notice that? Yeah? I wonder why do you think that?

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably not a French, not a lot of French listeners. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, Okay, we're beneath him, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we're hitting their wheelhouse much like podcast not

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<v Speaker 1>just podcast. I think podcasts like Mark Marin's huge in France.

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<v Speaker 1>And again so Jerry Lewis. So, I guess if I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting around at cafe like by the river, drinking wine,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have an iPod anywhere near me. I would

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<v Speaker 1>throw it in the river and just like live my life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where we are huge, do you true? Which

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome to me? Agreed? Hey, India, Uh, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Three Musketeers, right. You said it was a

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<v Speaker 1>novel by Alexander Juma. Yeah, I mean the really quick

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<v Speaker 1>one sentence summation is is uh hick Adventurer d'Artagnan moves

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<v Speaker 1>out of the sticks and because he wants to join

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<v Speaker 1>the famed Musketeers the Guard, the Musketeers of the Guard,

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<v Speaker 1>the King's basically secret service right hand men, wants to

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<v Speaker 1>join them. He goes there. He meets the three musketeers, Athos, Porthos,

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<v Speaker 1>and Aramis, and he eventually works his way into I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to be the fourth Musketeer. Well, he presents himself

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<v Speaker 1>with the opportunity to prove his valor and his courage

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<v Speaker 1>and his skill by basically hanging around them. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>along the way there are duels and there's some love making. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is the only article on how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com that has the word love making, fighting, convention,

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<v Speaker 1>and lovemaking. And it's hyperlink too. Is it really to

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<v Speaker 1>what I would imagine sex to an article on sex? Yeah? Okay, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a great summation. There's no need to read

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<v Speaker 1>The Three Musketeers or any of the other works by

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<v Speaker 1>Dumont that feature the Three Musketeers, including the man in

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<v Speaker 1>the Iron Mask. Oh was that him? Yeah? I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, but I kind of figured, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>who else was writing that stuff? Yeah? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He was kind of the market cornered. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>John Grisham of his day. He was the John Grisham,

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<v Speaker 1>the Danielle Steele and the Sue Grafton of his day. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll put thanks um so well. The weird thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's not too weird, is that he wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>novel a couple of hundred years after the real action

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<v Speaker 1>takes place, and it came out at a time when,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how you know, later on people have a

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<v Speaker 1>real fascination with things that came before them, came out

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<v Speaker 1>during the romantic era in the forties, where people are

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<v Speaker 1>like Dud's swashbuckling and these outfits and the love making

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<v Speaker 1>give me more. It was really really popular, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was also popular because it was based on actual

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<v Speaker 1>events featuring historical characters. Yeah, all those dudes were real. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>d'Artagnan um or d'Artagnan, he was a real person. And

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<v Speaker 1>actually the Three Musketeers um that duma wrote was based

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<v Speaker 1>on a semi fictional memoir written about that guy who

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<v Speaker 1>was a real musketeer of the Guard, who was who

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<v Speaker 1>went on to to great glory. Actually he became the

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<v Speaker 1>He traveled from the hinterlands, I think gascony Um join up,

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<v Speaker 1>the sticks joined up, eventually became commander of the Musketeers

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<v Speaker 1>of the Guard. Did they cover that in the Well?

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<v Speaker 1>The Well? There was more than one book though, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there were several, and the original book was serialized too.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about Dumaan in a minute, right. The point

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<v Speaker 1>is that his work was based on real people, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was super fictionalized and super romantic. Um and all

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<v Speaker 1>of it was based on the idea that in the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth century, there was this new invention that gave rise

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<v Speaker 1>to all of this, the musket. Thank you China. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything else almost on the planet that we have,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you China. They were the leaders in pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>everything back in the day. And around one thousand they

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<v Speaker 1>invented a little something called gunpowder, and um, you pack

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff in a tube that's a metal tube only

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<v Speaker 1>open on one end. You light it like a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like a mini cannon. They called it a hand cannon,

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<v Speaker 1>a hand cannon. And there was a lot of mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>early on. Man, can you imagine that going wrong so easily?

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<v Speaker 1>An um, and it would They would light it through

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<v Speaker 1>something called a touch hole, and then there would be

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<v Speaker 1>an explosion, create this hot gas that would send whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they stuck inside there, which was a little round ball

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. Um, it would send it out decent

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<v Speaker 1>speeds at first, fairly decent. Yeah, I mean for back

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<v Speaker 1>then that was right like whoa, look at that hurling projectile, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably more like magic run yea. You know

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<v Speaker 1>there's some that man has a hand dragon. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think they call it hand can and yet they probably

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<v Speaker 1>a hand dragon. Um. And it was mostly it produced

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<v Speaker 1>the psychological effect because it wasn't very accurate and like

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<v Speaker 1>you said that, it didn't really shoot it out at

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<v Speaker 1>fast speeds. Yeah, it would like the Knight's armor. It

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<v Speaker 1>would like hit it and go plunk and then fall

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground and the night would then down and

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<v Speaker 1>pick it up and put it in his little satchel

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<v Speaker 1>and they would catch you in half of the sword.

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<v Speaker 1>So at first, not super effective, no, but it inspired

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<v Speaker 1>people to make this better, Like we can do better

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<v Speaker 1>with it hollow tube and a stick and a touch hole.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's figure this out. Yeah, if I may segue

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<v Speaker 1>to the side here for a moment. This got got

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<v Speaker 1>me thinking today about battle and just warfare and weaponry

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<v Speaker 1>and how it's still so basic. I mean, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>super advanced now with how they do it. But Took

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<v Speaker 1>took starts out by hitting another caveman in the face,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's warfare started out with your fists, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it transforms into like eventually someone uses a club and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, this implement is like way better than

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<v Speaker 1>hitting with my fist because it's harder and I can

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<v Speaker 1>do more damage and I can get a little further

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<v Speaker 1>away from you. Then to come like swords and things

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<v Speaker 1>and lances, and they could get even further away. And

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<v Speaker 1>the whole, the whole history of weaponry is about hurling

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<v Speaker 1>bigger fists from longer distances. Whether it was the arrow,

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<v Speaker 1>then later the bullet, and now you have like enter

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<v Speaker 1>I c b ms that are just like really really

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<v Speaker 1>really big fists that you can fire from really really

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<v Speaker 1>far away. I think the point you're making is that war,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how advanced we get, is it really primitive.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's a primitive idea. I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>was my point, but this I think it's spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>Um all right back to it. Thank you for that. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I just even asked if you could do it first.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really formal. Well, and each each method was like

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit further away, like arrows, like hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>can get him further away. And then pretty soon it

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<v Speaker 1>was bullets, and then it was like sniper rifles, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it was missiles and now it's some guy sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in Nevada shooting people in Afghanistan with on his computer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty sad um. Okay, so back to the musket. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We've gone from gunpowder to hand cannon and now we're

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<v Speaker 1>at the arquebus, that's right, not arquebus early fifty hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>to be specific. And this actually had a shoulder stock,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like a huge deal because it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>a stick attached to this metal tube, like you could

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<v Speaker 1>actually aim this sucker. Now you could look down the

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<v Speaker 1>barrel and pointed at something and you could shoot it

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<v Speaker 1>and it would shoot a projectile. But again still the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate goal, the ultimate the pinnacle of the battlefield was

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<v Speaker 1>the horse mounted night in armor. And if that guy

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing plate, the arcbus wasn't gonna do it. Still

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<v Speaker 1>still still still a matchlock weapon, which meant you had

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<v Speaker 1>to light a little thing. So you needed a touch

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<v Speaker 1>hole of some sort, and you needed a some something

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<v Speaker 1>like a smoldering piece of yarn. Maybe you needed something dry, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a key that we will find out right,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a big problem. Like when it's raining, your

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to help, but you know it works

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<v Speaker 1>well in the rain. What a sword it does, like

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<v Speaker 1>the one that the horse mounted knight in armor is

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<v Speaker 1>using to cut you in half. Yet again a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years later, right, so um, people are like this, we

0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.400
<v Speaker 1>can make this work. This has got to work. We

0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.280
<v Speaker 1>have to figure this out. And the Spaniards were the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that came up with this new thing called the musqueto,

0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the sparrowhawk, or the boom stick, so I like to

0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.559
<v Speaker 1>call it. Uh, it was even longer barreled. Um, it

0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.679
<v Speaker 1>was really heavy. I looked at pictures of this thing.

0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:30.719
<v Speaker 1>They actually mounted it on a little forked stick like, Um,

0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:36.319
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like Rambo. Actually Rambo carried his his fifty. Yeah,

0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.199
<v Speaker 1>but that's supposed to be on a tripod. Yeah, you understand,

0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.480
<v Speaker 1>but ran so Mustley. You could carry it Rambo and

0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Sheenion and hot shots. Oh did he use that too, Yeah,

0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.760
<v Speaker 1>because he was imitating Rambo, right, Okay, So they used

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<v Speaker 1>the forked stick to like hold it steady and to

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<v Speaker 1>help them out. The French called it a mosquite. The

0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.520
<v Speaker 1>English called it a musket. A musket. I think you

0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.400
<v Speaker 1>see where we're going here. Um, it was also matchlock,

0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.160
<v Speaker 1>but it was actually could fire something that would go

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<v Speaker 1>through armor. Finally, and then all of a sudden, the

0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Nights are like, oh man, shoot, we're done. And they

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<v Speaker 1>actually did fade from the battlefield after that with the

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<v Speaker 1>with the mosqueto, the mosquite or the musket and we

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<v Speaker 1>cover that in the Night's podcast, right, we totally did. Um.

0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So then they're like, okay, we figured it out. We

0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.520
<v Speaker 1>got the night down. The problem is is like this

0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.640
<v Speaker 1>thing requires a forked stick to aim. It's like pounds. Yeah,

0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and you need a pikeman another soldier, um who has

0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.360
<v Speaker 1>an eighteen foot spear to protect you while you're reloading.

0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I would want two pikemen. Yeah. Well I think you

0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.280
<v Speaker 1>probably had your own little formation because you were so

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.400
<v Speaker 1>important you could just stand back and shoot a night.

0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they're going to give as many pikeman as

0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you asked for. If you knew how to shoot one

0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of those things with your hand dragon exactly. So um,

0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like, okay, we've got it. Now, all we have

0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.360
<v Speaker 1>to do is refine it. And one of the first

0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.880
<v Speaker 1>refinements they made was to make it a flintlock. Huge. Yeah,

0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.240
<v Speaker 1>so now you didn't have to carry a smoldering piece

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<v Speaker 1>of yarn any longer. That's right. Flintlock worked in the

0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:13.040
<v Speaker 1>rain because it would strike a piece of flint against steel,

0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.440
<v Speaker 1>producing the spark. Instead of needing that open flame or

0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the smoldering yarn. They really use yarn. Um, they would

0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:24.120
<v Speaker 1>use like something akindy yarn They probably was yarned, but

0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:28.360
<v Speaker 1>they spelled it with an E on the end, yarnie. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of a sudden, you could, uh, you could

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it in wet weather, which was awesome. And because

0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the nights have sort of gone the way of the Dodo,

0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it didn't have to be a you know, a two

0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.440
<v Speaker 1>inch iron ball, but you're shooting. So that means that

0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the gun itself can be smaller. Everything can be smaller

0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and lighter. Very big deal. So now we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>see like the kind of thing that the minimen used

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<v Speaker 1>in colonial America. That's right. For those of you into

0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the era, you'll know what I'm talking about. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they also got rid of the pikeman by attaching

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<v Speaker 1>a bayonet to it. Yeah, I don't know about that.

0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.920
<v Speaker 1>They said that that rendered pikeman uh like unnecessary. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would still rather have an another dude with an

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen foot lance than me with my bandet on the

0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.120
<v Speaker 1>end of my rifle. But you might like to have that,

0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>but your field commander would rather have another guy with

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<v Speaker 1>a musket in a bayonet. Yeah, true, you know what

0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Get rid of the pike, give him a

0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.840
<v Speaker 1>musket in a bayonet instead, and all of a sudden,

0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you've got two people shooting fire. Yeah, good point. So

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<v Speaker 1>they still called it a musket. Yeah, and technically anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who had a musket and used a musket in battle

0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.160
<v Speaker 1>was a musketeer. I bet a lot of guys like

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<v Speaker 1>to throw that word around back in the day too. Yeah,

0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'm a musketeer, and then the other

0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.960
<v Speaker 1>guys would say, you're not a real musketeer, a real musketeer, josh.

0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.920
<v Speaker 1>As we mentioned earlier, personal household guards of King Louis

0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the what is that? Yeah, and apparently he it was,

0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 1>was he the one who founded it? Yeah? He formed

0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:04.400
<v Speaker 1>uh the guard officially in SiO, the musketeers of the Guard.

0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Like they had to add the extra couple of words.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just think there were some shmos with the

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.159
<v Speaker 1>musket exactly, because everyone with a musket at that point is,

0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.200
<v Speaker 1>like we said, bragging about being a musket because this

0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.639
<v Speaker 1>is like high technology at the time, and it stayed

0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that way for a century. Like from the musket the

0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.119
<v Speaker 1>flintlock must get that any infantryman could carry with the

0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.800
<v Speaker 1>bayonet was started was introduced at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth century and like all the way up to the

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.879
<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century, like that is what people used. Yeah, and

0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 1>then that just like a rifle. I mean it's not sure.

0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean it changed somewhat, but like as soon as

0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:46.080
<v Speaker 1>China invented dunpowder, it was all over. People would be

0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.840
<v Speaker 1>dying left and right, sadly. Um, alright, so these are,

0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like we said, these were sort of like special forces,

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:59.600
<v Speaker 1>secret service, the private guardians of the king and his family. Yeah,

0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.680
<v Speaker 1>very important because in France during the seventeenth century, the

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.760
<v Speaker 1>early seventeenth century, it wasn't like a party going on

0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.159
<v Speaker 1>back there. No, and actually a lot of a lot

0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of troubles. Louis, his father um On Read the fourth

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:21.439
<v Speaker 1>I believe, was assassinated. Um and Louis the thirteenth became

0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he ascended to the throne. He became king at age nine.

0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like the boy kings that cracks me up.

0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And he had like a child bride, uh and of

0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Austria I believe her name was, And I guess overseeing

0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:39.359
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing was a guy named Cardinal Richelieu. Yeah.

0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:44.240
<v Speaker 1>So at this time and this was I think fairly correct. Um,

0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.639
<v Speaker 1>there were there were there was a lot of internal

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:52.040
<v Speaker 1>civil strife in France, religious based. Yes, the French were

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:57.359
<v Speaker 1>also battling the Habsburgs of Austria, and within his own house,

0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Louist was having to worry about Machiavellian which was new

0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:06.639
<v Speaker 1>at the time, machinations of Cardinal Richlieu his um basically

0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Dick Cheney. Yeah, but a Dick Cheney with like an

0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I on the throne. Yes, so his Karl Rove. Yeah,

0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's very it's very Games of Throney. Yeah. I don't

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 1>know if you watched that or reddit, but no, I've

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>heard of it though. Yeah, I see there's like a

0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:30.119
<v Speaker 1>throne made of swords done. It's really good stuff, all right.

0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So the musketeers were there, their guarding the king. A

0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of religious upheaval, yeah, yeah, French Protestants saying we

0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.840
<v Speaker 1>don't like you Catholics. Catholics are saying we don't like

0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.119
<v Speaker 1>you Huguenots, which were the French Protestants, and so there

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.640
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of warring going on. So the king

0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:50.399
<v Speaker 1>needed these like super specialized and these dudes were you know,

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they were bad. Yeah, they were like the tough guys

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.159
<v Speaker 1>at the time, even though they were dressed up in

0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 1>really really clothing that apparently struck fear into the hearts

0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 1>of their enemies. They're like, look at the deep blue

0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that gold embroidery. But they were highly trained in their

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 1>their morale or their esprie decor was legendary. Yeah, evidently.

0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Well they were also um expert swordsmen. They were called musketeers,

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and they knew what they were doing with them with

0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a musket. But day to day they had a sword

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 1>by their side and they could take your head clean

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.560
<v Speaker 1>off with it. Yeah. I mean, in the in the book,

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.639
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see a lot more sword fight and in

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the movies that they've adapted than any kind of musket play. Yes, supposedly.

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.800
<v Speaker 1>In in the book, muskets are just they show up

0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a few times, they're only fired a few times, but

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the rest is all swords and swashbuckling. But they were

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.240
<v Speaker 1>still musketeers, right. So, And the reason again they were

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>musketeers because this cutting edge technology at the time, and

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 1>if you were somebody who was really proficient with the musket,

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you were somebody special. Yeah, you also had to be um.

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to be, but it helped out if

0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.119
<v Speaker 1>you were an aristocrat, a noble men. You didn't have

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to be loaded, but you had to kind of run

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.199
<v Speaker 1>in those circles or you're never gonna get picked up

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to be one of the what was it dfty hundreds,

0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>that's the most, the most in the least they ever

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<v Speaker 1>had operationally, and they were actually like, this is again,

0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.239
<v Speaker 1>this is real life we're talking about. Um. They were

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:23.920
<v Speaker 1>formed in sixteen twenty two, I believe, and they ran

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<v Speaker 1>all the way into the until eighteen sixteen when they

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>were disbanded due to a lack of funding. I know,

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and I saw they rebanded a couple of times after

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>in subsequent years, and then disbanded again, and eventually they

0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:41.679
<v Speaker 1>all went onto solo success as artists, entertaining recording artists

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the r MS. He had a nice line of deodorance

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and personal fragrance. Um. So now can we talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the book and Alexander what do you

0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:59.680
<v Speaker 1>call him? Do? Very nice Paris eighteen twenties, very popular

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.919
<v Speaker 1>John Grisham like in his output right the swinging Paris

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>scene of the eighteen twenties. So he was turning out

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.440
<v Speaker 1>books like he had people writing stuff for him. He

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.399
<v Speaker 1>was like the Andy Warhol of his time, like he

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he had. He would have people say, like, here's the

0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>structure of the book you're about to write, and he

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:25.440
<v Speaker 1>would sit down and write it, research tone, chapter, ideas.

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>He had assistance for everything, and he would just crank

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.919
<v Speaker 1>this out like it was an assembly line. Well, they

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 1>were hugely popular. Yeah, but historians they don't knock him

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 1>because he also had the goods as a writer, right exactly.

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's really like, that's just this prolific nous

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 1>alone is pretty awesome. But then if you combine the

0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>idea that he was actually good at what he did,

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:53.359
<v Speaker 1>that's staggering. Like his collected works, his unabridged collected works

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>fills up three hundred volumes, and like some of it's

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.120
<v Speaker 1>really great, Like if you read the Three Musketeers, you're like, wow,

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 1>this is pretty cool. This is it's it's neat, it's interesting,

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it's engrossing. Um and the lovemaking right, it's hyper linked

0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. Uh So do we get specific

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 1>about the real d'artagnan's uh musketeer life a little bit?

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>We said that he came from Gascony, Yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit before or was it after now he was after

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 1>he came Yeah, He came out in sixteen thirty two,

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 1>which was a little later than the fictional version, and

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>served under Louis the fourteen, the Son King. He was

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the Sun King. You know a lot about French history. Well,

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I went to very Ci once, did you really? Yeah? Um,

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I never made it there. I didn't make it inside,

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 1>but I went to verst Si. So you tried, though, right,

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>that's an um and he actually the real d'Artagnan became

0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the commander of the Musketeers and was build in sixteen

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>seventy three. And apparently the three dudes were also based

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on real guys right right there. I don't know if

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>their names were dead on, but they're pretty close approximations

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>in the book. Um. And so, like you said, like

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 1>this book was hugely popular. It was first serialized in

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the French magazine Las Cieco lasco very nice. I don't

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.119
<v Speaker 1>know about that, but UM in eighteen forty four, and

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 1>like he said, he was really hitting the romantic period

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and everybody loved this. So they took this, They took

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the serial and UM put it into a book. That's

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:36.879
<v Speaker 1>why a lot of the chapters have like cliffhangers, because

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.959
<v Speaker 1>it was published it was serialized in the magazine. When

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.959
<v Speaker 1>I think he started out, didn't he start out as

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a playwright? Yeah, okay, which makes sense with the whole

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Cliffhanger thing. So he uh, he writes, never really gets

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the respect that some of his contemporaries like Victor Hugo

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>um got or a Meal Zola um. And it wasn't

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>until two doz. And this possibly was because he had

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>mixed race heritage. His Yeah, his grandfather was a French nobleman.

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>His his grandmother, I believe, was a Creole woman from Haiti,

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>so he had um African in his blood. Um. Now,

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>in France, it's not anything like it is in the

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>United States, where it's like that that idiotic one drop rule. Um.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>But apparently it was enough, there was enough racism in

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>France that like, it wasn't until two two, when Jacques

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Sharrock was president that he was moved. Um. His remains

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>were moved to the pantheon alongside like Zola. So uh.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people said, well, no, he was he

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>was a hack. He was he was just a hack,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like he was good, but he was still

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<v Speaker 1>a hack, and that's why people didn't take him seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also possible it is because of his his

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<v Speaker 1>racial background as well. I think that in this budde

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<v Speaker 1>Well for us, I think hundreds of years on, even

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<v Speaker 1>prolific hacks can be looked upon as you know, genius. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty much what I've been betting on since

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<v Speaker 1>we first sat down pretty started doing. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out there somehow society is gonna just devolved and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be like these guys are It'll be like idiocracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's our meal ticket, right, but more entertaining. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? No? I mean the rest is history, great,

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<v Speaker 1>great book. Uh, And I love the story behind the

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<v Speaker 1>musket and the Musketeers, the real life thing. That was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool, you know, I like my history. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn more about Alexander Duma and the Musketeers

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<v Speaker 1>and Muskets, you can type Musketeers m U s K

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<v Speaker 1>E T E E R S into the handy search

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<v Speaker 1>part how stuff works dot Com, which means it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for a listener mail. Josh. I'm gonna call this, uh

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<v Speaker 1>clarification on that I've actually copied that about um. Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and Chuck just started listening to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>when I love the podcast, but I was recently listening

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<v Speaker 1>to your Samurai podcast and I couldn't help but notice

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<v Speaker 1>that you gave credit to George Lucas when talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a Darth Vader mask uh and its relative similarity to

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<v Speaker 1>the Samurai Cabudo mask. That yes, um, I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would point out that Mr Lucas, although responsible for Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>was not responsible for the design for the conception of

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<v Speaker 1>Vader's mask. Credit for that should go to the great

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<v Speaker 1>concept artist Ralph mcquarie, who's used future aesthetic as in

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<v Speaker 1>like full time you're looking. Yeah, no, I love that aesthetics.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, me too. It's one of the reasons for

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<v Speaker 1>the iconic status of Star Wars and really informed like

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<v Speaker 1>every great space movie sense, don't you think, Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, like the um like a spaceport or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, Like all the jet engines are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of battered and beaten and everything, and every once a

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<v Speaker 1>while go to an airport and look in Stephen plains

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<v Speaker 1>are just like that, and I'll just see exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was doing and how well they nailed. They agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>So mcquarie, hats off to you, and Geiger is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take my hand off to YouTube as well,

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<v Speaker 1>sir um, and then continue with the email. Lucas's original

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<v Speaker 1>script did not put Vader in a mask at all, evidently,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was Ralph's idea to put a frightening helmet

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<v Speaker 1>on the Sith Lord. Macquarie recently passed away, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a shame if his contributions to popular culture

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<v Speaker 1>were not recognized. And Joe from San Francisco could not

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<v Speaker 1>agree more. And I'm glad you pointed this out because movies,

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<v Speaker 1>although it is a director's medium, are made up of many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many people's talents contributing to the end result of the film,

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<v Speaker 1>and people like mcquarie are often overlooked with something as

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<v Speaker 1>iconic is Darth Vader's mask. That's awesome, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for that joke from San Francisco. Well done, Joe. Um. Well, yeah,

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