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Speaker 3: Greetings and.

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Speaker 1: Welcome inside our three of The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: Chop Up.

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Speaker 1: h a l e O when Hayleon Assists dot com. Well,

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Speaker 1: the NBA cleared the decks for the Emirates Cup tonight.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks beat the Spurs. They pull away in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter one twenty four to one. Thirteen, and look,

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Speaker 1: there's so many things coming off this game, like it's

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Speaker 1: it's my first real championship.

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Speaker 2: It real, long time.

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Speaker 1: Man, It's as you just told me a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: You can wear the gear.

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Speaker 3: It's real.

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Speaker 1: Don't sit here and tell me five minutes later just

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Speaker 1: because you want to play Devil's advocate. Oh, it's not

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Speaker 1: a real championship. Picolane pickolan. Either it's a championship. It's

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Speaker 1: real to you or I can't.

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Speaker 3: Of course you could wear it, doesna mock you chit?

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Speaker 1: That's why I said. My whole point was can I

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Speaker 1: wear it? Or is it not cool to wear Emirates

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Speaker 1: cup watch?

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Speaker 3: Again? You decide you wear orange all the time, I've

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Speaker 3: already decided you're going down and on cool path or

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Speaker 3: just my color. I mean generally folks give a little

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Speaker 3: bit of uh leeway to the burnt orange of the

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Speaker 3: University of Texas, But Syracuse orange, I mean, that's like

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Speaker 3: the orange that go and.

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Speaker 2: Grab off the fruit stand.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like tonight, like really like using

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Speaker 1: this tonight as a not a not a training ground,

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Speaker 1: but more of a hey, a practice for when the

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Speaker 1: Knicks actually win. Like I feel like I want to

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Speaker 1: go out after the show, get really drunk, hang out

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Speaker 1: with other Knicks fans and just just say things.

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Speaker 4: Like, Hey, O, Giana, nob let's do it shot for

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Speaker 4: Ribvy's so good? Tyler Kollak, Let's do it shot for

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Speaker 4: me was so Gooday played the final two minutes tonight? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's play go New York, Go New York going the

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Speaker 4: loud speaker again, let's play let's play back of the

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Speaker 4: New York groove.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who you are, man, but I love

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Speaker 3: you New Yorkers.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: We're together, like I feel like I want to kind

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Speaker 3: of have that night tonight. Well, let's go over. There's

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Speaker 3: a bar near the Sony Studios during the weekend. It's

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Speaker 3: it's a good karaoke joint. Uh And you'll see a

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Speaker 3: lot of BC list actors and actresses come in. But Yo,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be Knicks fans. Are they gonna be there? Going?

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Speaker 3: Whore's a bunch of people that around here from New York?

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Speaker 3: Who was this guy drunk a hell? Just talking about

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Speaker 3: the he's celebrating his night was the NBA championship tonight?

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Speaker 3: not is it tonight?

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Speaker 2: I always heard that the NBA doesn't start until Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Are they change your mind? So they are they changing

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Speaker 3: the right? All right? I guess SA maybe they are.

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Speaker 2: As long as you say I'm buying.

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Speaker 3: They will celebrate whatever the hell you want to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Who what's doing?

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Speaker 3: Drink for the next Let's go? You know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to go to New York,

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Speaker 1: happening over Christmas break right, so over over Christmas holiday.

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Speaker 1: And I go to a bar up the street from

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Speaker 1: Everybody's watching and it's so exciting because the Jets hadn't

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Speaker 3: OV beer. You read OV beer, it's like the split.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's like it it's like a six out.

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Speaker 1: it's like six outs. What is it adjusted for inflation?

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Speaker 1: is is at my wife's you know, mother's house and stuff,

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Speaker 1: We're going to the playoffs. So it was I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what blanket. So he said to the bar

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Speaker 1: and I go, hey, shoot the bar with ov splits

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, is he gonna do it?

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Speaker 3: But he rings the bell, he goes everybody, We got

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Speaker 3: ov splits for everybody on the guy sit at this table.

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Speaker 3: Because the Jets won. Everybody goes all excited, and everybody

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Speaker 1: Me and they all thought, I want to bet, like

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Speaker 1: they all think the guys are coming to me, going, man,

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Speaker 1: that's a gutsy bet.

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Speaker 3: Man. Then you bets in a game here. I said no,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't bet the Jets. This is my team.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow wow wow. But everybody thought and after a

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Speaker 3: did you know to bet this game? What'd you know?

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Speaker 3: No one was going to bet the Colts?

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Speaker 1: I said, ah, I knew if the Colts, uh, you

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's a great call. It's a great and people

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Speaker 3: are are are are toasted with me. Guys are taking

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Speaker 3: pictures with me. This is the guy that bought beer

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Speaker 3: for everybody because graying a bunch of random family albums.

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Speaker 2: Who's that guy?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that guy is, but U but that

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Speaker 1: were like, hey, you you're Jason. I'm like, yeah, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: you nice to meet you. Like, yeah, just one just

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Speaker 1: reading the one, just reading the ingredients and then well

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Speaker 1: you had that's seven ounce of the but vienna.

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Speaker 3: Splits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three oduls yeah three. So like that was like

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Speaker 1: how exciting it was. And that's kind of how I

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Speaker 1: I have Syracuse in two thousand and three, right, and

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Speaker 1: I have the hurt paying mellow II.

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Speaker 3: The hurt doesn't matter. It's paying players. I mean, every

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Speaker 3: every coach is yucking it up about it now. They

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Speaker 1: Someone had said to me, If someone had said to

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Speaker 2: Hey, suck it.

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Speaker 1: We can't treff if someone had come out to me

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Speaker 1: your next professional championship. Uh huh is going to be

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Speaker 1: when Carmelo Anthony's son is playing for Syracuse and basketball

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I know what that old man had to say.

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Speaker 2: That's not happening.

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Speaker 3: But then again, that's kind of what happens right there,

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Speaker 3: right the next championship. Mellows Kid played for Syracuse this

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Speaker 3: year and the next win. All right, there we go.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we need to have like an updated

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Speaker 3: version of a Christmas Carol with you and you're a fandom.

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Speaker 3: We can shoot that. I found this cool camera. It's

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Speaker 3: like two hundred bucks that it makes it look like

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Speaker 3: it's an old like seventies film. Yeah, so we can

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Speaker 3: shoot it that way. Okay, yeah, no, that'd be good.

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Speaker 3: That would be good. Holiday holiday Holiday twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: coming soon.

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Speaker 1: It's tough, man, I mean, look, Knights like tonight, like again,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of championships. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: go back, it's it's it's Syracuse and three Carolina Hurricanes

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. Really Syracuse winning the basketball

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Speaker 1: tournament and that's it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Mets made it to the World Series, uh in

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Speaker 1: titles like you're talking, I mean, and I'm New York

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Speaker 1: or my teams. You would think that my New York

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you live and die with it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I think the cheesecake factories still

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Speaker 3: They made a tournament you may not like it, it

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Speaker 1: It was the Knicks were bereft of a lot when

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Speaker 3: You go back, Mike Harmon to nineteen ninety, go.

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Speaker 1: Back thirty five years, my six teams, two hundred and

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Speaker 3: But that's just it. Take the hits and keep going.

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Speaker 2: It is dangerous.

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Speaker 3: That's completely dangerous. It's the side I always talk about

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Speaker 3: Which is which is? I really I don't know how

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Speaker 3: You think you walked around going, yeah, you've traded for Giannis.

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Speaker 1: And again, there's no doubt that the Emirates Cup has

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Speaker 1: this week, like the NBA is going away before the

438
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Speaker 1: Christmas break. Meanwhile, it's not. But it kind of has

439
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,800
Speaker 1: a great feel that, hey, we're having we're crowning a

440
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Speaker 1: champion close to the Christmas holiday, right, So that's good.

441
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000
Speaker 1: But you can't have a situation where it looks like, hey,

442
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Speaker 1: this is a big deal and we're afraid to show

443
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Speaker 1: you the crowd and we're gonna really turn the lights

444
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Speaker 1: all the way down, because yeah, it's the embarrassing that

445
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 1: we can't get a full crowd as into it as

446
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,959
Speaker 1: the players were as into it, as as the teams were,

447
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: as great as it looked on TV, and you could

448
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: tell these teams wanted to win.

449
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 3: Say what you want. The Spurs and the Knicks wanted

450
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Speaker 3: this game.

451
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:51,199
Speaker 7: Man.

452
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Speaker 1: You saw the way they played. You saw how they

453
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 1: were thumping their chest and all all the different times

454
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Speaker 1: parts of the game. You saw the way the Knicks

455
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 1: were giddy on the sideline celebrate is the clock ticked out,

456
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 1: It's like the end of a championship. Both teams wanted this.

457
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: The Emirates Cup is a great idea, but we.

458
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Speaker 3: Talk about, you know, just scheduling and trying to give

459
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: it some level of gravitas, right in terms of your

460
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 3: fans being able to be there, give it at the

461
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: festive and raucous environment that you still want, especially when

462
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: there's stakes to it in this case. You know, we

463
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 3: just keep coming back to everybody got a nice bonus, right,

464
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 3: It's a nice Christmas bonus, not a fruit you know,

465
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 3: Jelly of the Month club, not any of the Hey,

466
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 3: Clark Griswold is going and taking Brian Doyle Murray hostage

467
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 3: or any of that stuff. But it's just trying to

468
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Speaker 3: get it together, right. We had the Bowl out here

469
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Speaker 3: in LA this weekend. It was Washington and Boise State.

470
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Speaker 3: Now my daughter because of the short time he couldn't

471
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Speaker 3: get off work, but she's headed to Boise State in

472
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. They gotta take her.

473
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Speaker 2: And it was, hey, that would be cool.

474
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Speaker 3: When the matchups are kind of getting announcedent and you

475
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Speaker 3: look at the day, it's like, all right, well they

476
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 3: had six days to mobilize. Now, maybe you were able

477
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Speaker 3: to drive it from I haven't done that mapping, but

478
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Speaker 3: otherwise it's a pretty decent haul. You're not being You're

479
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Speaker 3: not probably going to be able to make it so

480
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: people were making fun of attendance, like literally, those bulls

481
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Speaker 3: got announced on Sunday, okay, and here's the game the

482
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Speaker 3: next Saturday. In this case, all right, we advanced and

483
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Speaker 3: you get to go to Vegas for a weekend. It's

484
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Speaker 3: like it's the holiday season. Air rates are high Vegas

485
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Speaker 3: hotel rates. We've been chronicled that a bunch on the

486
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: show that unless you've gotten in it has not been.

487
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Speaker 2: Cheap at the resort fees or whatever else.

488
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Speaker 3: It now becomes all right, well we had a Christmas

489
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: trip plan them, I gotta go see the semi finals

490
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 3: of a December tournament for the next It becomes a

491
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Speaker 3: very difficult proposition to sell it for any team, which is.

492
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Speaker 2: Why we had the seat filling.

493
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Speaker 3: Yes, and we talked about it the one Iota, like

494
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Speaker 3: that's literally what you had seat fillers. For those that

495
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Speaker 3: missed the story, we covered it on Friday, reiterated here

496
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Speaker 3: is there's a site where you can go for game

497
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Speaker 3: show attendant sitcoms and everything here in Los Angeles. They

498
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Speaker 3: do events in New York and in other cities as

499
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Speaker 3: as dictated, but mostly it's a Los Angeles proposition of hey,

500
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: we need people to come and see a taping of

501
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: insert talk show here, like they do it for Jimmy

502
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: Kimmel is probably their biggest one. And then they have

503
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Speaker 3: the outdoor concert or events. But they did that for

504
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Speaker 3: the semi finals and for the finals.

505
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Speaker 1: Seed Piller the Kramer when he was a seat filler, right,

506
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Speaker 1: come in and show up so it looks good on

507
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Speaker 1: television basically, So for the champion Knicks, let's let's let's

508
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Speaker 1: let's make this event even better than it is, right, because.

509
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Speaker 3: You've had it start out well. We talked to Rick

510
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Speaker 3: Buker last hour and I say, hey, you know, do

511
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Speaker 3: this for the two teams that make it to the

512
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Speaker 3: to the finals.

513
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Speaker 1: The winning team seeded no lower than sixth in the playoffs. Right,

514
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Speaker 1: if you're higher that you higher than that button, no

515
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: matter what your record is, no lower than six real

516
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: big stakes for winning the E Cup. If you're the

517
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Speaker 1: team that makes it to the to the the E

518
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Cup finals and loses, you're guaranteed to be in the

519
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: playoffs somewhere one through ten. Right, the lowest you'll be

520
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: is a ten seed getting in.

521
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: Right.

522
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: That there's your stakes and how you want to make

523
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: it worth more. Now, the other part of it. And

524
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Speaker 1: this is a really big thing.

525
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Speaker 3: Right. The three big changes is and this is this

526
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Speaker 3: is the biggest one.

527
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Speaker 1: Is that it needs to be done in one continuous tournament,

528
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Speaker 1: to have it played where hey, this is an e

529
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Speaker 1: Cup night and then you play a couple of games,

530
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Speaker 1: and then the next week there's another e Cup night,

531
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Speaker 1: and then a week later you play your third E

532
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: Cup game and you're trying to figure out the standings.

533
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: It's messy, and I get what they're trying to do,

534
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: and you know, look, to make an omelet, you got

535
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: to break some eggs, and this was the style they

536
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: were going in.

537
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: I think you could have done a little bit, a little.

538
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: Bit different, but maybe to have something like this come in,

539
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: that's a big that's a big change. You want to

540
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: do it slowly and until you get to the right formula.

541
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Speaker 1: So the right way to do it, quite honestly, is

542
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Speaker 1: to make it its own continuous three week tournament. After

543
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: let's say you play the first twenty games in the

544
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: NBA season, right or whatever you want to play. You

545
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: want to play it around the holidays, around Christmas time. Great,

546
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: that's awesome, right, that's pretty good because then you can

547
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: you can play it around Christmas and then you can

548
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: have the Christmas Day kickoff for the real you have

549
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Opening Night, then you have the E Cup tournament, then

550
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: you have the Christmas kicking it off, right, so you

551
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: have Opening Night like three times over the course. If

552
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: you do it the season like this, where it becomes

553
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: a destination, the people can plan it if they're NBA fans.

554
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: Right, you have it where it is, so you play

555
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: that you you take a break.

556
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: Okay, here we are twenty and just like in soccer, right,

557
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: just because you're looking to juice up the regular season,

558
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: which gets very tedious, and then you go and you

559
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: everybody plays their four games and then from there you

560
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: play a you get to down to sixteen. Let's just say,

561
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: like the top couple of teams have buys to get

562
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: you send to everybody and then to make get down

563
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Speaker 1: to sixteen teams and then you have single elimination from

564
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen down to the Final four down to

565
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: the E Cup Championship. Right that that's kind of the

566
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: best way to do it, because hey, it's okay to

567
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: borrow a little bit from college basketball, because you are

568
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Speaker 1: borrowing from the greatest postseason tournament that any of us

569
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Speaker 1: have ever seen. And that's the college basketball field of

570
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: sixty four to sixty eight tournament. Like, you get to

571
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: a sweet sixteen and get down to the championship is

572
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Win and go home, winn and go home,

573
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: winn and go home. So if you do that, you

574
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Speaker 1: amp up the importance of the tournament. Taking a break

575
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: is a big thing. Let everybody focus on this now.

576
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Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about the other games. Is

577
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: this an Emirates Cup night game?

578
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 7: Is?

579
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: Why is the floor this way?

580
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: It's very jumbled to say we're going forward with the

581
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: regular season, but then we're taking little jags here and there.

582
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: Ecup game here, ecup game here. I mean, I don't

583
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: look at the standings out of okay.

584
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Speaker 3: Where are they? What what's the next record in the

585
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: group stage the Tuesday or Friday or every other Wednesday.

586
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think you have shown.

587
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Speaker 3: That you can do that now.

588
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Speaker 1: And they'll play the early games at people's courts, right like,

589
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: still play. Here's what the tournament's gonna be. And each

590
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: team plays four games, and you know, the Knicks play

591
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: two at home, two on the road. The Spurs play

592
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: two at home, two on the road. It's part of

593
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: the NBA schedule. And then you get to the sixteen

594
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: teams and then okay, now we're getting down to the

595
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: championship and you have the stakes at the end. You

596
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: have the money for the winning teams, you have the

597
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: playoff rewards for the teams, and suddenly now you're into something.

598
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: Now you're really into something. For a couple of teams,

599
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: you'll be playing more games. Yeah, but if you make

600
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: it to the championship again, you're guaranteed the playoffs, so

601
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: it's not that big a deal that you're playing three

602
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: extra games. For the other teams that lose in the

603
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen, you're playing one extra game and you get

604
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: home and you get rust because we have to play

605
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: out the rest of this championship. So it's really only

606
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: a couple of teams that are gonna play an extra

607
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: game or two, and two of them are gonna get

608
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: rewards at the end. So if you do something like that,

609
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: it's a much cleaner situation. You know, even Rick Buker's

610
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: idea of extending the season and take longer breaks and

611
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: make basketball an all year round thing, kind of like

612
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: MLS which just ended. But you know, they come to

613
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: training camp beginning of the year. Right, So it's a

614
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: really it's it's an all year round thing. And I

615
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: think that's okay because guys are still gonna play basketball

616
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: all year round. It's still gonna happen. If you just

617
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: want to do it and you take longer breaks, I

618
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: think that's pretty cool. But just to to some way,

619
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: you have to make this an all encompassing thing, and

620
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: you have to make it its own event because that's

621
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Speaker 1: what's going to cut through in the end, because that's

622
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: what we're conditioned for. You know, in your when you

623
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: do certain things with soccer, where you hear, here's an

624
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: FA Cup game. This is not we're taking a break

625
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: from this game. That's the way they've all grown up.

626
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: They've been following it like we know that, Hey, it's

627
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: a tournament time, it's playoff time. These are the teams playing.

628
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: It's a little bit easier for us to stomach. And

629
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: I think because you have set up the Emirates Cup

630
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: and now it helps when teams like the Lakers win,

631
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: when teams like the Knicks win and gain a lot

632
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: of attention to it. Right, the Bucks won last year,

633
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: the Thunder lost in the finals last year. Went on

634
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: to win the NBA title. Now that you've set this up,

635
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: you have big market teams win, you can get to

636
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: that next level and go, Okay, this is what we're

637
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: doing for the E Cup. So now we're doing this

638
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: from now on and it's all better things for the players.

639
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: It's more for the teams, and it would be better

640
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: for the fans to watch as well.

641
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of it comes down to

642
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: we get into the talk of money, and the bonuses

643
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: are great, but you get back into the CBA and

644
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure there's equity in terms of these

645
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: games played right. Because you say it's not a big

646
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: deal two or three extra Tell that to the folks

647
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 3: in the load management business. Tell that to the like

648
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: where we already have that problem. And that's something we

649
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: address with Rick Buker. And find the podcast after the

650
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: show wherever you get your audio download to give it

651
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: five stars, send it to friends and family. It's the

652
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: holiday holiday, holiday season. It's a great gift, but it's

653
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: just that idea of trying to make sure you're finding

654
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Speaker 3: that balance because those extra games, if you have a

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Speaker 3: title in hand, you know, we always wonder down the

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Speaker 3: stretch how many teams are playing out the string for

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Speaker 3: better for worse. Right where we see benchings, we see

658
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Speaker 3: guys taking nights off and it becomes the race rest

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Speaker 3: period ahead of the playoffs or the race to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And if you play the extra three games, now that's

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Speaker 3: a lot of wear and tear on the body. So

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Speaker 3: making sure you're getting compensated because right now it's extra,

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Speaker 3: it's in the standings and it's just that one game

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Speaker 3: the title that doesn't count, which is too bad if

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Speaker 3: you would have gone off for say a forty five

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Speaker 3: point performance and it doesn't count in terms of it

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Speaker 3: because the count towards MVP considerations all start. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but and all this that the other. But if you're

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Speaker 3: playing those extra games, you're trying to make sure you're

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Speaker 3: still balancing right with the rest of the league. If

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Speaker 3: suddenly it's like, wait, we suck in this tournament and

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Speaker 3: we get three days, they're gonna play three extra games. Cool,

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Speaker 3: all the better. So making sure you don't create some

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Speaker 3: inequities that don't exist. Yeah, at rights are trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out that balance.

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Speaker 1: But now it's time to take it. The first three

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Speaker 1: years we've seen it, what's what' done. Well, now it's

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Speaker 1: a next level thing that you can take it to

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Speaker 1: and there's still gonna be adjustments and tweaks at that.

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Speaker 1: Let me look look at the college football playoff situation.

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Speaker 1: We're tweaking that every five minutes ings, so it's okayut

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Speaker 1: on the field. You add some bear traps and some

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Speaker 1: other things that you have to navigate it and be

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Speaker 1: great time now to find out what's trending in the

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Speaker 1: wide world of sports. Well, we know what's trending. The

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Speaker 1: Knicks are the Emirates Cup champions and Isaac Lohenkrawn has

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Speaker 1: the latest on this story.

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Speaker 8: The dominant story of the day, the week, the month,

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Speaker 8: the year, julyp Somel Silo. You know what so is

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Speaker 8: I and so is the rest of America. However, the

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Speaker 8: facts are these and the NBA Cup Championship game on

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Speaker 8: Tuesday night the New York Knicks if either the San

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Speaker 8: Antonio Spurs one twenty four to one thirteen. Spurs led

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Speaker 8: the contest after three quarters ninety four to eighty nine,

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Speaker 8: but the Knicks outscored him in the fourth quarter thirty

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Speaker 8: five to nineteen. Og Nnobi led the Knicks with twenty

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Speaker 8: eight points performance that will go down and Nick's history

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Speaker 8: alongside the likes of Herb Williams, Bruno Sundof, Chris Dudley,

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Speaker 8: Johnny Newman, and Pat Comming.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I used to love that.

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Speaker 1: My favorite name, my favorite name of all time for

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Speaker 1: Marv Rolbert to say, was always.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Newman from way Downtown. Yes.

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Speaker 8: Well, speaking of affirmative celebrations, let's listen to how it

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Speaker 8: sounded as delirious Knicks fans took to the streets of

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Speaker 8: Manhattan to celebrate winning the NBA Cup title.

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Speaker 2: You ah, look, what about that rat business you were

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Speaker 2: talking about? You hear that somebody hawks and horn? That

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Speaker 2: was for the Knicks.

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Speaker 8: I guess it was a pretty well behaved It was

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Speaker 8: for the next I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Have to grease up any polls or anything.

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Speaker 3: No, just.

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Speaker 8: Not a Philadelphia celebration. They were remarkably restrained apparently elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: Name.

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Speaker 8: Junior running back Jeremiah Love announced on IG on Tuesday

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Speaker 8: evening that he's declaring for the NFL Draft, coming off

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Speaker 8: a Heisman Trophy finalist campaign ran for nearly fourteen hundred

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Speaker 8: yards with eighteen rushing touchdowns. Gonna be some cleanup on

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Speaker 8: the streets of Manhattan tomorrow morning. Back to you guys,

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Speaker 8: thank you.

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Speaker 3: Very much all the headline of the New York Post,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, Harmon, read it.

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Speaker 2: It's cup to you.

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Speaker 3: New York, New York banner night for Nicks as a

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Speaker 3: ko Spurs to win in season.

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Speaker 1: Turney, it is a championship night Here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the studios.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Hey, the big takeaway from the Emirates Cup for both

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Speaker 1: of the teams tonight. We go back to a big

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Speaker 1: bull prediction we made before the season started. That boy,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling really good about right now.

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Speaker 2: That's next, right here, Jason to Mike. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox.

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. This Christmas, the next gave me a ship

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Speaker 1: and they won it all tonight they beat.

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Speaker 7: The Spurs the third time in my lifetime my team

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Speaker 7: has one a champion. Shit, yep, you got us out

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Speaker 7: a ship. I got a ship, man, I got a ship,

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Speaker 7: not a chip, a ship.

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Speaker 3: We caught a ship.

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Speaker 1: Next to the last ship Sales next win the e Cup.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Spurs one one thirteen. Look, we talk

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Speaker 1: about the how big of a night it was for

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Look, it's the only story, the only game.

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Speaker 1: Everything in Twitter, everything trending has to do with this game.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now for the teams themselves, right, we're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: sp Lee coming up in a few minutes, because yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's put Spike Lee on the air.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: For the Spurs, the Spurs didn't need this as much

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Speaker 1: as the Knicks did. The Spurs are a terrific young team.

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Speaker 1: They get Wemby back coming off the bench tonight. Uh,

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Speaker 1: limited minutes, but boy, you still look really really good.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why before the year started I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: my two dark horse picks for the finals, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't like to remind people that I said this.

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Speaker 1: Pistons in the East, Spurs in the West. Right, and

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great about I'm I'm on a long shot

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Speaker 1: heater right now with those predictions. The Spurs, they're young,

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Speaker 1: they're talented. Wemby's become the best player in the NBA

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Speaker 1: just has to stay healthy. And you could see tonight

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Speaker 1: even though we're going to talk about the death of

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. How deep the say the depth depth? Oh

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Speaker 1: this was thet well, it could be the end, it

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Speaker 1: could be as good as it gets. It could be

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Speaker 1: the depth of the Knicks. Did you say, Joe side

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Speaker 1: show Bob uh. But the Spurs, naturally, they've been able

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Speaker 1: to accumulate a lot of talent, and you saw over

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Speaker 1: the course of the game tonight where Steph Castle was

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Speaker 1: able to spur them on. Wenby picked it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit de Aaron Fox. Listening to Aaron Fox talk

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Speaker 1: after the game, you can tell that this kind of

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Speaker 1: solidified what they thought. Hey, you make it this far,

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Speaker 1: you know you're a team that can compete for a championship.

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Speaker 1: This was more of a the Spurs, I think, realize

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Speaker 1: how good they are. They really realized that being Wemby driven,

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Speaker 1: having the best all round player in the NBA, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be something that carries you to titles because we

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Speaker 1: watched Lebron do it for a long time, watch the

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Speaker 1: best players in the NBA carry their teams to the

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Speaker 1: NBA finals. So I feel like the Spurs already knew

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Speaker 1: it would have been a validation for them to win

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Speaker 1: but I don't think they needed as much as the

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Speaker 1: Knicks did. I think the Spur the Spurs are terrific

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Speaker 1: young team and and and and they're just going to

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Speaker 1: get better and better, and if Wenby stays healthy, they're

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Speaker 1: going to stay at the top of the West. I mean,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're not gonna in the thunder down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: but they should easily be one of the top three

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Speaker 1: seeds overall.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't even be close. Yeah, we've talked a lot

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Speaker 3: about organizational stability in all sports, right as we've worked

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Speaker 3: together here at Fox Sports Radio these years, and and

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Speaker 3: how you hold up different organizations, and there just is

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Speaker 3: the different levels all right, of continuity, consistency. Make fun

802
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Speaker 3: of the Mike Tomlin Steeler stuff. People have that as

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Speaker 3: low hanging fruit, but most teams, most fans would kill

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Speaker 3: to have that level of all right, we're gonna be competitive,

805
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: and then it's just a matter of degree of whether

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Speaker 3: we can get over in a given year. For the Spurs,

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Speaker 3: we go back over two decades that they've had to

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Speaker 3: bottom out. They've had a couple of bad seasons. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: that's why you've been able to draft at the top.

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Speaker 3: But with some smart trades along the way. It gave

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Speaker 3: you extra chips to go and add these pieces. You

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Speaker 3: go and get Daron Fox. You've got a veteran presence

813
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Speaker 3: and you're testing yourself against the best.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: When you have a game against OKAC and they beat them,

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Speaker 3: and look, it was on the same night that John

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Speaker 3: Cena tapped out, So a lot of folks wondering, Hey,

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Speaker 3: conspiracies and getting over and all those kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. You have them arrive at a championship

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Speaker 3: of vent marquis standalone kind of moment where you're saying,

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Speaker 3: we're among the best. They are currently fifth in the

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Speaker 3: West for championship odds. Ok, see Denver, Houston, the Lakers,

823
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Speaker 3: and then you've got the Spurs sitting at twenty five to.

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Speaker 1: One with a healthy Wenby all the way, it's probably higher,

825
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Speaker 1: but it really the best part for the Spurs is

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Speaker 1: that they're not the boring Spurs. Right when the Spurs

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Speaker 1: won every couple of years with Popovich, when it was

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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan and Jenobi Lee and Tony Parker, yeah they

829
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Speaker 1: were really good.

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Speaker 3: They were kind of boring.

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Speaker 1: This is not a boring team and if you want

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Speaker 1: to compare this to who the Spurs are really when

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Speaker 1: you want to say, okay, just how good are they

834
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Speaker 1: the Bucks in their heyday with Jannis right, think about

835
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Speaker 1: how good they were top of the Eastern Conference. Ever

836
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Speaker 1: they won the title one year. Now they're on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the mountain. Jannis wants out this Spurs

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Speaker 1: team right now. With Wemby as your best player and

839
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Speaker 1: Yannis as your best player in Milwaukee, Wemby might not

840
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Speaker 1: quite be at the like, look, Wemby's becoming the best

841
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Speaker 1: player in the league. He might not be at the

842
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Speaker 1: level Yannis was when Jannis was doing it by himself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he can actually shoot.

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Speaker 1: But this team, this Spurs team, is better than any

845
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Speaker 1: team that Yannis had in the East with the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: This team is way more talented than your top to bottom. Like, look,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Harper is Fantasy's off the bench for twenty one tonight.

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Speaker 1: This is a topic in the draft, Like, this is

849
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Speaker 1: a deeper, more talented team than anything that he had.

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Speaker 1: And the Bucks ruled the top of the East for

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Speaker 1: a long time and we're just getting to the era

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Speaker 1: of Wemby and the Spurs where it's been a great run,

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Speaker 1: and it's a great run this year for Oklahoma City.

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00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be get out of my way. It's

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00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: wenby time. Now that that's how goods team is going

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 3: But that's the beauty and we can make fun of

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Speaker 3: the You know, we talked about the Lakers winning the

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00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: mid season Trophy and all that stuff. Uh, the Clippers

860
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: are going to give their pick, which will be a

861
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: top five pick, to the OKC Thunder, so they're not

862
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: going anywhere. So like the battle is set up for

863
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: a decade between SGA and Chat against Victor and whoever

864
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Speaker 3: he brings for the ride.

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Speaker 1: I don't forget about Ka Like we we are getting back.

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Speaker 1: We are getting back into a golden era in the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference. Good don't forget Jokich is still there. So

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Speaker 1: we are getting back to a golden era in the

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Speaker 1: Western Conference.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 1: You want to have the Lakers still there's a Luca

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Speaker 1: Lakers having a great it's fun to watch exit at

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Speaker 1: about a Fresca exit swollen dome coming up next. Why

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Speaker 1: the Knicks had to have this championship?

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Speaker 3: Wait what