WEBVTT - Cow Class Action The Crèmily Scam with Kyle Prue 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:18.400 Scam, Come rob from scam, come rob and froam Godess 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.400 what's pop and congregation? It is your girl. Lacey Mosley, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:26.520 aka Scam Goddess, back with the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.720 and those who practice it. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.000 Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:30.760 One thing is for sure. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.120 We'll probably laugh at them, but never at the victims 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:33.960 and congregation. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:35.839 If you've been with us for a while, or if 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.560 you're new to the church, shake your neighbor's hands, say hello. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.159 Yes, But if you are a part. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.800 Of the congregation, I'm very what Yes, I'm excited, I'm through, 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:49.479 I'm elated. I'm astatic to welcome a new guest to 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:54.440 the show. Kyle Prue is an award winning author, actor, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:55.440 and comedian. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.920 Kyle gained widespread acclaim with the viral series. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.560 How To Piss Off Men I Love That, which has 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.280 a mass hundreds of millions of views across social media. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.760 The series culminated into a handbook that debuted as an 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.120 instant New York Times bestseller, as it should. In addition, 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.080 Kyle Prewe is the creative force behind the cult favorite 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:18.640 web series Rabbit. His podcast Get Worse debuts on Will 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:21.240 Ferrell's Big Money Players Club in October. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.920 Welcome Kyle, thank you, thank you for having me. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.800 Thank you here. It's very rare that we have a 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.000 white man on the show. So you you have a 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.679 lot of lifting to do here. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta represent my people. Well that's 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:37.280 a lot. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:38.600 I gotta make that much. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.400 On you representing white Ben Willis. 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.120 I gotta make up. 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.320 I gotta make up a few yards. It's tough. It's 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:45.119 been a tough couple. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.040 Yeah, you gonna gain some yard in the right direction. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.880 I love I love the well Kyle. I wanted to 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.080 ask you, like, what is your relationship with scams? Have 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.440 you ever been scammed? Have you ever run any scams? 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.720 Do you know anybody who's been scammed? It could literally be. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.520 Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean I have, for sure Ben 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.400 scammed and I have I have run some low level 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.920 scams myself. Yeah. You know, it's just sort of something 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.480 that you kind of fall into. You know, it starts 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:20.520 with one little tiny you know. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.400 You know, you scammer talking about yeah, promise something. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:25.200 You just you fall into a fall into a little crime. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.200 You know, it's a slippery slope, that's you know. They 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:32.200 invented that term for scammers to use to explain their actions. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:37.160 No anything specific come to minds or anything that beyond 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.120 the Statute of limitations. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.040 Okay, beyond the Statute of limitations. This one, it wouldn't 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.640 even really be it's not even legal. It's all personal. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.200 But so I went to UH, I went to I 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:47.240 went to theater school. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:48.799 Which one. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.800 I went to the University of Michigan. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.359 Oh, that's a good one. Okay. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.040 I paid lots and lots and lots of money to 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.120 roll on the floor for many years. And so I 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.880 had ended up taking a gap year in between high 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.640 school and college, and because I was going on book tour, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.919 and so I was like, I should tell the people 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.520 who I was going to be in class with that 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.400 I'm not going to show up and I'll see them 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.240 next year, you know. And so I popped into this 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.720 Facebook group for you know, you miss something something theater, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.440 and I said, hey, guys, I I'm actually going on 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.120 book tour. I'm going to come next year, but you know, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.320 I can't wait to meet you guys. Then sent it off. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.200 So the next year, I am at Michigan and I'm 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.440 I'm an acting major. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.960 But you miss is very performance. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.760 Ye yes, I'm very aware of the theater scene there. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.360 I'm sure cleaning up a straight man and the unbelievable. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.440 Yeah, it was. It was. It was horrible. It was terrible. 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:49.040 It was unconsfortable. But here's the I feel like, uh, 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.800 performance minor Business major is like the podcast degree. Oh 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:57.160 my god, it's like charisma and accupant, you know, it's 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:57.440 all you. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.640 Yeah, I did make a televisions and I write a book, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:04.320 so then you know what yeah yeah, yeah, so but yeah, 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.520 so you you you took your gap year to like, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.880 was it to go on tour for the book promotions? 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.840 Yeah, so I was going on tour and all that, 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.200 and and and so I was in the I was 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.440 in the acting major. And then you know, you, Mish 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.320 has this very very very you know, sort of prestigious 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:20.279 musical theater. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:21.200 Yeah, they do. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.840 And the mts are just kind of different. They are 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.840 sort of they have a super human ability to uh 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.040 kind of everything. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.640 So very squirky, strange individuals. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.040 Yes, indeed. One yeah. Yeah, and so a little bit 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.800 like halfway through freshman year, I'm out and I'm with 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.480 these musical theater majors and one of them is like 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:42.360 this is this was like what was passing for a 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.440 conversation back then. But they were like who in your 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.720 who in your class sings? Like who's who's who are 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.200 the really great singers? And I'm I'm naming a couple 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.080 of people in my class and well and you, of 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.960 course I don't really sing. And I was like, uh, well, 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.800 what do you mean? And they were like, well, you 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.360 were going to be in our class. You were going 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.320 to be in the music theater school, but then you 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.599 took that gap year and now you're in the acting program. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.640 And I was like, what are you talking about? And 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.400 they were like, you posted on our Facebook group. You 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.920 said you were going to be in our class, and 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.760 then you took a gap year, and then when you 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.279 showed up, you were an acting major. So you were 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.920 going to be a musical theater measure, but then you're 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.080 an acting major. And what I realized is when I 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.719 had posted in that Facebook group, I had accidentally posted 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.080 in the musical theater Facebook group and said, Hey, I 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.880 was going to be in your class, but now I'm 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.960 taking a gap year. I'll meet you all next year. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.480 And they were like, so you were like you you 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.039 are almost an MPT yet and I was like, yeah, yeah, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.080 that's true. And so I just kind of I was like, yeah, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.880 you know what, Yeah, like this will be kind of funny, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.800 like this will be something that i'll you know, sort 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:45.800 of I'll later I'll be like, oh, I was just kidding. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.800 I can't sing or dance or do any of that stuff. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.360 And so time passes, and this sort of lie starts 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.440 to get away from me in a very big way 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.000 in which like, now people are coming up to me 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.800 and being like, I hear you have one of the 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.719 most beautiful voice. Could you sing a little something for 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.359 us now, Lacy, I'll tell you I don't have a 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:05.760 very beautiful voice, so. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:07.520 I speaking though. 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:14.800 Something is lost in translation. I'll tell you that. So people, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.480 and so it starts to build more and more and more, 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.480 and people are like, I heard that you are sort 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.200 of like a generationally talented thing, and so I had 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.800 to like think of a thousand excuses to not sing 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:31.320 in front of people the entire time I was at school. Yeah, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.520 And then it started turning into people being like, yeah, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.440 I heard you couldn't get back into the musical theater school, 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.040 so you had to go to acting. Like now, then 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:41.880 it turned into this idea that like, oh, like the 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.000 second time around, I wasn't talented enough to be in 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.400 the musical leader school, which, to be fair, I was 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.640 never talented enough to be in the musical theater school. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.280 But the next year I am dating this girl who's 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.040 in the musical theater program and she's a year younger 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.440 than me, and she goes to this party and people 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.640 are like, have you ever heard your boyfriend sing? And 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:08.159 she's like no, and they're like he's unbelievable. He's like 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.000 one of the best singers in the world. And I 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.040 guess like my refusal this thing had just like head 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.000 this thing build and build and build, and by then 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.000 I was terrified to be like, hey, everybody, I lied. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.760 So she is like listening to all these people tell 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:27.320 her this and she's like, Kyle, like I really don't 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.160 think so I think you're all wrong, and they're like no, no, 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.080 like he's the best. And so she comes over that 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:39.960 night and she's like like hey, like it's weird, yeah, 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.440 yea yeah. She was like you never sing for me, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.920 and I was like I knew exactly. I knew immediately 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.920 what was going on. I was like, you know, I don't. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.120 Yeah, if a woman asked the man to perform musical 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.040 talents the second agenda, because yeah, never you have never 0:07:55.200 --> 0:08:00.960 never been trying a man whips out a guitar. I'm like, yeah, yeah, 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.360 he's like more goog dolls. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:07.120 So I was just like, uh, listen, I don't really 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.280 do that anymore. I was like trying to get out 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:15.360 of it so hard, and then she starts like balling crying, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.160 and I was like, wait, what the what the what 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.320 the fuck's going on? She was like I can't believe 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.480 that there's like this thing that I didn't know about you, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.920 and like this is like a whole big, like part 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.080 of your identity, I guess, and like it's something you 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.160 felt like you had to hide from me, and like 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.319 I came off the wait list and it's like weird 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.120 that you never told me that. And I was like listen, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.480 I was like, none of it's real. I was like, 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.520 it's all fake. It's it's it's like one like joke 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.960 that I thought was going to pay off that is 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:49.200 now has consumed my life. And she was like. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:55.720 Oh, thank god, like thank god, because I think she 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.720 did not want to be with a like quote unquote 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:01.240 like musical beater man And. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:03.240 Is that what she said? 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.920 Because tell me what she said, there were there. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.360 I think there was a lot of reasons behind her relief. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.760 I think I think that it was probably also to 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.320 a degree that like she was like, like she had said, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.120 I think she was glad that there wasn't like a 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.560 whole part of my identity that had been hidden from 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:19.280 her that like. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.240 And like I was feeling like I must he must 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.000 be cheating on me. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:31.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah all around town for me. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.439 Yeah exactly exactly. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.680 I got a door ray or me out of his ass, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:36.640 So what's going on? 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.480 And so, uh but then she told everyone and that 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.960 was the end of my scam, and uh, it was. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.400 It was weird like people with people like would like 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.439 I trusted you man, Like they were like this, this 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.439 this matters to us, and I was like, wow, this 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.680 really it did. It was a little bit damaging to 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:54.640 my personal stock. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.840 But oh my goodness, I know, I feel like the 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.160 scam a little bit here too. Though. It's like, Kyle 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.120 is just the body that you were born into, like 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.280 being a charismatic white man with a full head of hair, 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.560 and you just mentioned something just like oh yeah, musical 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.720 theater and then all of a sudden, they've ran with 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.880 this like he's so charismatic, his hair is so full, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.360 he's the best singer in the world. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:22.520 They created this whole, this whole corporate brand identity for 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.720 me as like as like you know, like a performer, 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.080 a shinger. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.120 And you feel that by refusing to sing, because then 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.160 they were like, yeah, he's so good he won't even 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.719 share his y with me. Personally, people were like, oh, 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.360 it's time people sing. I'm like scam Like, I'm like 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.120 I gotta start whipping it out because I got to 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.440 prove myself. But you just being like no, no, no, 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:44.840 not Like now they're like, oh, he must be so 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.199 good because he won't even give us a taste. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.400 It made it seem like I had nothing to prove, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.280 when in reality, I quite literally had nothing with which 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.640 to prove my shelf. Uh Yeah, So so that was 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.480 sort of the scam that consumed my life for a 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:00.000 little while. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.440 That's a bar I kind of look that. I think 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.800 all of us need to take that on a little 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.040 bit more. I'm gonna stop trying to prove myself so hard. Yeah, right, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.880 if you keep it a little clandestine, then people are 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.560 like what do they have to hide? It works the 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.480 same way in dating, like the word I've learned that 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:20.360 like there's really just bitch or whore, like like it's 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.360 gonna be a war. Yeah, like and and horre doesn't 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:27.360 necessarily mean like a negative connotation doesn't mean like even 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:28.880 sex worker I don't think is negative. So I'm not 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.280 even taking that, but like what I mean. So it's 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.200 like I'm always like the nice person who's always like, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.400 look what I can do. Look at that you need help, 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.080 I'll give you help. You need money, I'll give you money. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.520 And that is not proven to be the way to 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.200 bring the type of people in my life that I want. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.439 So I was like, ooh, it's time to jump over 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.960 the bitch, which is like, why do you deserve my time? 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.280 I'm gonna like, I'm not gonna be rude to you, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.040 but I'm also not going to open my whole life 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.720 up to you, you stranger, with that you proving that 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.240 you belong here. So you kind of did the bitch 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.520 version of being like people without trying to do it, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.760 ye people being like please think press and like I 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.120 don't do that. I don't yeah yeah, yeah, and asked 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:10.040 her to sing for me should be like whoa, you know. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.320 Yeah, they thought that I knew my worth. That they 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.200 thought that I was just like sitting around knowing my 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.840 worth when in reality I knew exactly what my work 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.760 was and it wasn't enough just toff. That's so true though. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.560 I think like one of the things that I think 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.400 that you learn the older you get and the more 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.400 like like menu interact with is that like men, like 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.720 they're the real talent of the man is like uh 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.480 is being trainable, like being able to like accept the dynamic. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.679 So if you like go to a man and you're like, oh, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.320 like i'll do this for you, I'll do this for you, 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.120 I'll do this for you, like I'm all these things 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.800 to you, They're like, great, that is the dynamic. And 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:49.960 the dynamic is inherently like fair, you know, like it's 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.240 and so if you if you set the dynamic, you're like, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:57.200 what do you bring to the table. They're like, that's 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.959 the dynamic. The dynamic is that like I'm like, you know, 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.760 like you know, in more of kind of an equal 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.319 you know, flow, and so so I think, I mean, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.080 I think it's I think it's a valid philosophy. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.600 And under, you know, in a different body, like my 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.719 brown body, my female body, my queer body. People are 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.320 always assuming less of me automatically, which is crazy. Like 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.920 you know how DEI was pejorative, Like it became a 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.480 pejorative term for brand of black people getting jobs they 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.000 didn't deserve, when in actuality, we had to not even 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.680 black people minorities in general, but like we had to 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.440 be ten times better to get the job. Yeah, Like 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.080 you like, you know, certain people of certain ilkskuldwalk and like, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.400 you know, like a straight white man and they would 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.680 just assume that you have the skills of the talent 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.040 and you could learn them on the job, Kyle, Whereas 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.000 they're like when I come to the job, they're like, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.240 you've been working at this job a million years, right. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.359 Like you're overly qualified. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.600 So yeah, I like that technique, and I think a 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.559 lot of us can take that on a little bit more. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.959 I definitely am going to I have as I've gotten 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.760 a little bit older. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.320 Yeah, yeah, I mean I that was one of the 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.360 things is I had once at one point tried to 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.680 explain like the DEI conversation to like an uncle of mine, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.280 and I was like, they're playing. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.280 Because a lot of white men like to come talk 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.120 to us about like, damn, it's really hard. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:15.560 Out here for y'all. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.800 Yeah yeah yeah uncle, hell yeah yeah, everyone can go 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.560 talk to your uncle. It was hard, man, It was 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.920 I was like, please never on Facebook ever again. But 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.280 just what I was saying is I was like, like, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.000 it's the exact same game, but they're playing on like 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:35.320 the extreme difficulty level, you know what I mean. Like 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.640 if someone's like there, if someone's like, uh, like playing 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.880 the exact same game that you're playing, and they're playing 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.040 on a much harder difficulty, that that means that they're 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.960 probably a lot more capable and qualified than like if you, 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.040 if you were able to sort of just walk through it. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:52.360 Right, because how did they get there? 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.400 If he likes video games? So I was trying to 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.440 put it. I was trying to create a frame of 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.640 reference that would really work for him. I don't think 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:00.000 it worked. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.280 I love that you came at him like a youth 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.320 pastor and you did your best. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:05.240 You did your best. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.320 Really is my energy. I had a guitar. I was like, listen, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:12.640 oh I love that. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.080 Oh goodness, well look we all learned something here. I 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.040 love this and you know what we're gonna keep in 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.320 that frame. So you know, you you talk about how 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.600 to piss off man man. You know that was obviously 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.760 like a huge thing, and now you have this podcast 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.280 coming out get worse on big money players, and so 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.680 I wanted to This actually falls right into what we 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:30.360 were talking about. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.000 But I have a listener letter here from the audience. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.480 As always, snitch on your friends, your family, and your 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.640 enemies at scam gottess pot at gmail dot com. Just 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.680 make sure your scam is retired because we don't want 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:46.640 to what yes, fuck up your bag a man? So, Kyle, 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.480 I need you to give me a fake name. Gender 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:50.040 doesn't matter. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.840 M Carrie Carrie. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.400 Okay, I like that. Is it Carrie with a see 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:56.080 or Cary with a k? 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.840 It's Carrie with a c ooh like the movie but 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:00.640 Pet's blood. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.160 Yeah, exactly like the movie with the fixed blood. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:08.160 So Carrie says, hello, Queen of all things Scammering the 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:13.200 scam I run is simple and though technically illegal, heavy 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.760 on the technical. No one stands to lose and the 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:20.760 only thing the scammed are left holding is shame and 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.360 the knowledge that you can't fuck with my bag. Okay, Carrie. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.800 And typically if I read a listener letter and they 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.720 say the scam is ongoing, I may share it. I 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.520 may not because I know that you have a very 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.400 strong TikTok acumen, Like I'm sure you like I'll be 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.200 on their doom scrolling shit. My algorithm is very curated, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.720 but it's rare that I'll post every now and then 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.200 I'll get a girl full of something. But I know, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:47.680 you know like how it is when you're a little 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.400 bit more involved in that. But one thing I really 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.400 hate about TikTok is that people don't gate keep enough. 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.440 It's like you find out something and then you have 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.800 to tell everybody, and I'm like, sometimes it's like keep 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:58.760 it in your group chat because you're actually fucking up. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.080 The bags are on here the you know, everybody's gonna 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.320 start adjusting because you were like, here's a new secret 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.720 I learned, Like, bitch, don't tell us, don't tell everybody. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.199 Yeah, yeah, I mean I think I think anytime that 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.480 you can there are some people who live their life 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.560 thinking anytime I can offer something useful that like another 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:20.120 person could like use or or take, then that is 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:24.040 like algorithm jews. Yeah, So like I think that like 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.600 one of the things that I like learned through like 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.560 writing is that like sometimes the most important decision that 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.920 you can make is to show restraint. And I think 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.119 it's the same thing like knowing when not to go 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.919 viral at a certain point becomes Josh, this important is 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.880 as knowing when to go viral, and and I think 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.800 that like a big part of like yeah, like you know, 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.440 I mean like not like fucking up your entire life 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.879 is being like okay, yeah, like there's some stuff that 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.320 I am going to keep for me or you know, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:00.520 keep for me and my friends because you know, like, uh, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.280 just because I can use it to be seen by 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.720 a lot of people doesn't mean that's that's gonna be 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.439 good for me or my life or my career. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:14.720 And people are so there's just become such a desperation 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.680 because of our economy and because of how hard it 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.240 is to just get a regular job that you know, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.200 people are like, oh, I see this person go viral 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.040 like doctor pepper baby, bebe let me look what's my 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.840 doctor pepper baby. Like I'm trying to get out of 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.320 the struggle, and it's like it's not gonna work for everybody. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.439 Some of us have to be CNA's babes, like some 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.320 of us have to. Somebody's got to do these jobs. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.880 I need an electrician. Don't come over here dancing while 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:38.960 you're working on the wiring. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:44.040 Please. It's just like a very famous famous like it's 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:45.959 like a tweet or something, but it's like a picture 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.720 and it says like we don't need any more influencers, 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.760 we need gaffers. These shows are dark. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:56.440 As shit, real as fuck. Okay, because what Game of 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:57.480 Thrones case the point? 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:57.600