1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I am all in. I guess this isn't Old Man 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Music with Scott Patterson everything you've ever wanted to know 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: about the music of Gilmour Girls, Everybody, Scott Patterson, One 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: eleven Productions. iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. This is the 5 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: inaugural episode with my two lovely guests, Luise Goffin and 6 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Grantly Phillips joining us after they're electrifying acoustic if that 7 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: term has ever been used live concert for some verious 8 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: distinguished guests over here Warner Brothers Studios. And this segment 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: is called and this is a new thing we're rolling out. 10 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: It is called this is Not Old Man Music. Thank 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: you guys. We just did this wonderful event for Grant's 12 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: thirteenth album release party. Louise, you joined Grant up on 13 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: stage to sing and play the amazing theme song for 14 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. Grant tell us a little bit about how 15 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: it felt to be up there today and having a 16 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: major studio throw you a shindig of this scale for 17 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: your album release. 18 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: Wow, what a fantastic kind of homecoming in a way, 19 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: you know, being back here on the WB lot pretty nice. 20 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: We had a tour group as well, that's pretty great. 21 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: And seeing a lot of old friends as well, you know, 22 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: it's fantastic. 23 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a show though. Anyway, thirteenth album, Yeah, great 24 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: relationship with Warner Music. Tell us how it's how it 25 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: all began? First song? We did it all begin with 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Gilmour Girls and you being cast as a town troubadour? 27 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: Oh goodness, well this would have been about. 28 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: Two thousand, right five years ago? 29 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, okay, right. 30 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: You know I had been with Grantly Buffalo vocalist, you know, 31 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: in the band Grantly Buffalo and all that, and and 32 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: around this time I was kind of starting to go 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: out on my own, working on my first solo album, 34 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: and that was about the time that I got this 35 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: this invitation. Do I want to come on this show, 36 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: this new show and portray the town Troubadour? 37 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: And so it was. 38 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: It was great timing because you know, all of a sudden, 39 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't on the road all the time I was recording. 40 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: I was kind of just wide open to whatever the 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: future wanted to throw at me. And there it was. 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls. Had no idea that you know, beyond one appearance, 43 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: that it would you know, involve you know, so many 44 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 2: seasons and there's this incredible lifetime. 45 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: How many how many episodes did you end up doing 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: do you remember? 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Been like I'm going to say maybe twenty. 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Did you notice a hike and album 49 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: sales or record sales? Uh? More people showing up at 50 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: your on tour when you were touring well as a 51 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: result of the show, You know. 52 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: What, I Uh, it's interesting some and this it still occurs. 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: The ripples continue. 54 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: To this day. 55 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: You know when I when I go out and play, 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: I typically meet people to come to the show. 57 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: Uh. 58 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: Some people that know Grantly Buffalo, some people that have 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: followed my solo stuff, and then a whole other group 60 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: of people that it's because of this program right that 61 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: they come to the show. 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I can't walk down the street in Amsterdam, ken you anymore? 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I can't. You can't, you know, it's like crazy. You 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: have to jump into the canal just I do, swim away, 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: don't you? So what's the country? What's the big country 66 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: for you? Are? They're all the same in Europe? When 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: you when you play over, I know you're embarking on 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: a on a European tour. Pretty soon, pretty soon, Yeah, I'm. 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Going over across across the pond, as they say, is 70 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: that like maybe is it September October? 71 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 3: October? Yeah, a whole bunch of dates coming out here soon. 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: What's the best attended countries? Are they all the same? 73 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Are they? Is there a country that you particularly love 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: to go back to? Not to alienate anybody, I don't 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: want to alienate anybody. 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: That's the thing I've had. 77 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: I've had great history in the UK, you know. I mean, 78 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: there are certain cities that I returned. They speak English 79 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: there I don't, but they do the form of it. 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: I understand that they do. Yeah. 81 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: Derivation of heart, Yeah, make up my own words. Yeah, 82 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: I mean I we began. 83 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: Touring with the band back in the early nineties, and 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: so there was, you know, kind of an opportunity to 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: build something, you know. But we we performed in France 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: and Germany and Scandinavia, Netherlands, you know. 87 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: In January, I'm going to be up in Finland. 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to be up in Lapland, which I've never 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: performed in before. 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: That's exciting. 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: It is a I'm I'm I'm I'm hoping it's legit, right, 92 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: somebody hasn't just kind of like booked me a lift 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: right to Lapland. 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: How big is your entourage? How many? How many in 95 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: your band and people helping out and all that gear. 96 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're renting gear in each country, you're taking gear 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: with you. 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm not unlike the town Troubador, I have guitar, will 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: travel there, you know. Yeah, that's that's how I That's 100 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: how I work. And you know, I I occasionally have 101 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: someone when I'm overseas who would be my my tour manager, bodyguard, 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: groomer and uh dog walker, dogwalker, financial advisors to go, 103 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: you know, and and that. 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: Person will they'll go to the show, they'll help me 105 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: get good. 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: Sound and all that stuff, you know, and we'll have 107 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: a pint or two. Well we'll shed a tear you 108 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: know over the days. Yeah, yeah, and uh, when I'm 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: out on my own here in the States, a lot 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: of times I don't have that luxury of having the 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: extra entourage one gentleman. So it's a solitary situation, right, Yeah. 112 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: A good time to write, though, good time to write 113 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: sad songs about being on Drein's there you. 114 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: Go, and the world needs those, you know, they, I mean, 115 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: there's not enough of that such a. Thank Louise, Hello Scott, 116 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. 117 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. 118 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Let's talk about how YouTube first met. 119 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you? Did you meet on the show's a? 120 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Did you know each other beforehand? 121 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 5: I feel like I. 122 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 6: Knew you before that, but I'm not sure where. Maybe 123 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 6: I came to a show that you did in Santa Monica. 124 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: Oh well that could have been. 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, But then we did the reboot together and 126 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 6: we were in the trailer going over our lines, and 127 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 6: it was really interesting because we were, you know, trying 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: to say it this way, trying to say it that way, 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 6: and then Amy just kind of like threw a wrench 130 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 6: at us and said, no, no, no, when you say 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 6: the lines, he's going to. 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: Be chasing you down the street doing. 133 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 6: A zigzag like in the cartoons, like sip zip zip tip, 134 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 6: and so all of the like super analytical, how should 135 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 6: I say this line? Was just all of a sudden. 136 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 6: You didn't think about it. You were just running, right. 137 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: Those were such fun scenes that was hysterical that rivaled 138 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: naked Kirk with a pillow over them running through the 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: first kiss Your Your Stuff was very funny. I remember 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: those scenes. Did you rehearse them a lot? 141 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 6: I mean, I imagine it was just you know, he 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: came by the trailer and said, hey, should we run 143 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 6: our lines? 144 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Right? 145 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, some very dramatic readings of our lines. It was like, 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, listen, sister. 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: You'll never get away with it. 148 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: Yes, well at you me, And then it came time 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: to shoot and they were like just run like crazy? 150 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 6: Or wasn't there something like she's not even your mom? 151 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: So Louise, tell us a little bit about how you 152 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: grew up and what led you into the world of music. 153 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Were your parents involved in music? I'm just kidding. 154 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 6: Well, my parents were writing songs when I was young, 155 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 6: so I thought that's what all grown ups did, they 156 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 6: wrote songs together. 157 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 5: I wasn't pretty. 158 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 6: I had a really active fantasy world when I was 159 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 6: very young because my parents, while they wrote a lot 160 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 6: of known songs in our house, and they'd always close 161 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 6: the door like not now you know, But they'd drive 162 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 6: into New York City and unbeknownst to people, they did 163 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 6: not go to the Brill building. They went around the corner. 164 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: I think it's seventeen fifty Broadway if I have that 165 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 6: address right where Alton Music was, but being in the 166 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 6: suburbs in Western Range, New Jersey, and you know, my 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 6: parents driving off in a buick. I'd be home alone 168 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 6: a lot with you know, a housekeeper and my little sister. 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 6: And so I got kind of lost in records and 170 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 6: like this fantasy world of like, you know, I'd look 171 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 6: at the gatefold of. 172 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: You know, Mickey. 173 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 6: Mouse and Tchaikovsky, you know, The Sorcerer's Apprentice, and I'd like, go, oh, 174 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: I want to I want to be somewhere where I 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 6: can direct an orchestra. And I listened to the monkeys, 176 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: and we did watch TV shows together when they were around, 177 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 6: Like at Sullivan's show would come on, and it was 178 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 6: I went back to that house actually about ten years 179 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 6: ago because I was on tour and we drove in 180 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 6: the neighbor. But I said, wait, we're like so close 181 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 6: to my house and the owner was raking leaves outside, 182 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 6: and when I went up and I said I used to. 183 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: Live here, he said, come on it. 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 6: And so I was walking through this house and saw 185 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 6: where the TV was and I was like, God, we 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 6: always to gather around. This's like twenty one inch tvcent 187 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 6: that little thing. So yeah, they were doing that and 188 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 6: then we moved to la to Laurel Canyon, which was 189 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 6: a total shock to my system. And my parents separated then, 190 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 6: which was also a shock to my system. And I 191 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 6: guess I always felt, particularly from my dad, that you know, 192 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 6: him being able to write lyrics was his way of 193 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 6: staying grounded when otherwise he'd be pretty bipolar. And so 194 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 6: I learned quickly that life is going to go through 195 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 6: really big changes and there'll be bigger than you can 196 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 6: even like process. 197 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 5: But if you can do this thing where you. 198 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 6: Can write a song about it, you have a shop 199 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 6: of like keeping a sense of yourself. Like somehow that 200 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 6: message got through to me. 201 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: Interesting, And you set out when did you really set 202 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: out to be a singer songwriter? How old were you 203 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: when you Was it a decision that you made and 204 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: that's what I want to do or was it just 205 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: something that I did. 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 5: I kind of always knew, like when I was eight. 207 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 6: I think I took piano lessons when I was like seven, 208 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 6: and I you know, had some the Swanda over the 209 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 6: you know, it was Robert something Thompson's you know easy right, 210 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 6: And I learned that song. And then as soon as 211 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 6: I knew a couple of chords. I was like, I 212 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 6: don't want to learn other people's songs. I'm going to 213 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 6: put these songs. I want to put these chords together 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 6: in my own way. So I was kind of doing 215 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 6: that from eight, but then we moved to LA, and yeah, 216 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 6: I just started writing songs. 217 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 5: I think when I. 218 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 6: Was I think it was I was fifteen or sixteen. 219 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 6: My mother came into my room. This is post tapestry, okay, 220 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 6: and I had done a bunch of demos and she 221 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 6: knew that I was like really serious about like wanting 222 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 6: a record deal, and she really tried to talk me 223 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 6: out of it, and she was like, well, I'm not 224 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: sure if she was like it's a little soon for 225 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: my daughter to be right up behind my heels, you know, 226 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 6: because she was a young mom, or if it was 227 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 6: just like she knew how successful she was and that 228 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 6: it might be hard for me to follow. But she 229 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: was like, are you sure you want to do this? 230 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 6: And I was just like yeah, She's like, you know, 231 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 6: it's going to be hard, and I was like, that's 232 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: all about other people. Like I already knew that that 233 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 6: was about other people. That I was like destined to 234 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 6: do this thing and was going to do it and 235 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 6: regardless of what other people said or comparisons that that 236 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: had nothing to do with. 237 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Me, right right, Hey, everybody, make sure to catch me 238 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: on the convention circuit on September fifth, sixth, and seventh. 239 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: I'll be a Smoky Mountain FanFest in Kingsport, Tennessee. Weekend 240 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: in the Life in New Milford, Connecticut, September twelfth, thirteenth, 241 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: and fourteenth. Yes, I will be there on the thirteenth 242 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that Saturday, New Milford, Connecticut. 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Brush, the recruitment, the ritual. The reality 267 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 10: of Greek life has been a mystery for those outside 268 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 10: the sorority circles until now. 269 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 11: Is it really a supportive sisterhood that's simply misunderstood or 270 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 11: is there something more scandalous happening on campuses across the country. 271 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 11: In this podcast, pledge to feel back the layers and 272 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 11: spell the truth one Greek letter at a time. 273 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 9: Pledges and actives, rush chairs, and ritual keepers. Some call 274 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 9: it the best time of their life, while others say 275 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 9: it's a nightmare from a. 276 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 10: Perfect rush to recruitment scandals. What is really going on 277 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 10: behind the doors of those sorority houses from Alpha to Omega. 278 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 11: We're taking you inside sorority row, including the chapter room 279 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 11: as we explore the fellowship in the front of mees. 280 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: Let's get dirty. 281 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 11: Listen to Dirty Rush on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 282 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 11: or wherever you get your podcasts. 283 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: Grant, do you remember the time when you decided to 284 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: be a singer songwriter where you remember the moment where 285 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: it just was like, this is what I'm going to do, 286 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: this is what I am, this is what I do. 287 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was a period probably I would 288 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: think maybe fourteen fifteen or all of a sudden, you know, 289 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: I had a few chords under my belt, and I 290 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: had really been studying song lyrics. You used to publish 291 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: magazines song hits. You know, it was just nothing but 292 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: song lyrics, and you could really kind of take apart 293 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: those songs and see, you know, this is the verses, 294 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: the chorus. And that was a time maybe like you know, 295 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: mid seventies where it was kind of a golden era 296 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: in terms of songwriters. Yeah, And I don't know, and 297 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: at that age kind of like teenage years in high school. Well, 298 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I had like a whole I 299 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: had a mast, a lot of songs, had a big folder. 300 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: But I kind of kept out it. 301 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: I didn't really say it out loud that I was 302 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: a songwriter until I was in my early twenties. 303 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: I guess, who are the big heroes of yours? Who 304 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: are the songwriters that you just, oh gosh loved well? 305 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: I was taken to see, you know, I grew up 306 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: with Elton John of course, you know, great Bernie Toppins 307 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: lyrics and Elton melodies somebody. I was taken to see 308 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: Neil Young quite early on, and it was just him 309 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: and his guitar and his you think you had two pianos, 310 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: you know, whole slew of guitars, and that really made 311 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: a real impact on me, seeing what one could do, 312 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, with with nothing more than a melody and 313 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: an instrument in words. 314 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: You know, do you remember your first concert that you gave, 315 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: a first live concert. 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that I performed paid? 317 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that you performed paid or not? Or you know, 318 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: obviously the first one that I performed. If the first 319 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: one was a paid gig, then you were really good. 320 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, the first time you got out in front 321 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: of people, I see what you mean. 322 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: Well, here's the weird thing. 323 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: And my my foray into entertainment came by way of 324 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: magic and the craft of esch apology, what you call it, 325 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: escaping from things. I was a Houdini fanatic and I 326 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: had a little magic act and I booked myself into 327 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: various venues in northern California and that was my That 328 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: was my introduction to performing in front of folks. And yeah, 329 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: and I did that from like the age of like 330 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: eleven to thirteen, ten to thirteen. 331 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: Something like that. 332 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: And then I picked up the guitar, and magic tricks 333 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: seemed very ridiculous at the point when I had discovered 334 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: the guitar. 335 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: This is a lot cooler, I thought. 336 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, there were bands that were 337 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: wearing capes who played, you know, guitars, but certainly music 338 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: was going to be what I said, the tricks aside. 339 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Luise, do you remember the first time you played in 340 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: front of people and what that experience was like and 341 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: did you play all original songs? 342 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: I did some things. Yeah. 343 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 6: In junior high I played in assembly, right, okay, And 344 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 6: I remember that my junior high was a little scary 345 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 6: in Hollywood, Like there were when you went into the 346 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 6: locker room, there were girls in the locker room had 347 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 6: razor blades hidden in their afros. 348 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Wow. So it was like, well, that's actually a good 349 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: place to hide them. 350 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it was for sure. But I I came. 351 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 6: From the East Coast, and like I felt myself to 352 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 6: be like a little of a runt, you know, like 353 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 6: everyone in LA when I said, it must be the 354 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: sunshine and the orange trees. 355 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 5: Why is everyone so big out here? 356 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 9: Like you know? 357 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 6: And I was like this East Coast Jewish, you know, 358 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 6: little girl in the locker room. And I was never 359 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 6: particularly you know, athletic. And I remember when I performed 360 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 6: in assembly, they used to kind of mess with me 361 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 6: a little bit, like make fun of me, you know, 362 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 6: do that thing that they do, you know when you 363 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 6: first get rub their knuckles. 364 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 5: But after I performed, they. 365 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 6: Exactly, but then they say, you leave her alone, she 366 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 6: can sing. Suddenly I was like I had a cool 367 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 6: card to pull out, and it also was good for 368 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 6: my protection. 369 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: Nice, yeah, Grant. When when when did you first get signed? 370 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: Well, we signed ninety two in the fall of ninety 371 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: two when the first record came out, I think. 372 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: March of that ninety three big moment. It was a 373 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: big moment. 374 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, although you know, as much as you you visualized 375 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: that moment, it was you know, in between, in between 376 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: dinner and going back to track some more. You know, 377 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: so in the end it's just kind of a you know, 378 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: a blip, right yeah, yeah, but you know, kind of 379 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: a pivotal though, of course, And you. 380 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Know, who is it with? 381 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: Who did you sign with? 382 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: Grantly Buffalo signed to Slash Records, which was one of 383 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: the great sort of indie punk labels here in Los Angeles, 384 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: and they had quite a roster, you know, Los Lobos, Action, 385 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: violent films, you know, boy Dream, Syndicate, on and on, 386 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: you know, great stuff, and so we were really proud to 387 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: be on that, on that label, and they had they 388 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: had connections to other distribution, Warner Brothers, you know, Reprise, 389 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: and so that was really monumental for us. 390 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: How'd the record do? 391 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: The record did good, you know, it received a lot 392 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: of critical praise. 393 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: And that moment in time in the early nineties, I 394 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 2: feel like it was sort of a it was an 395 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: interesting period where maybe those at the Helm kind. 396 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 3: Of went the kids, Well, they know what they're doing, 397 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 3: let them, let them do their thing, you know. 398 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: And a lot seemed to slip through the cracks right 399 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: in a great way, you know. And then eventually somebody 400 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: came back and a round and says, what are they 401 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: doing out there? And it got you know, it got 402 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: a little harder to be experimental. But I look back 403 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: at that period of time, what was on the radio, Well, 404 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: of course Nirvana readers. You know, it was like all 405 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 2: this stuff that had kind of bubbled up in the underground. 406 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: Became sort of mainstream, you know, because of TV. 407 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, it was a good time for 408 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: like music that was kind of coming from a very. 409 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: Soulful kind of place. 410 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: You know, even if it was aggressive, it was still 411 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: yearning to be honest. 412 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: And do you. 413 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: Remember a moment where somebody was in the audience that 414 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: just made you like. 415 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 5: What I'm thinking, I'm thinking, did. 416 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Your mom ever show up and make you really nervous? 417 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 5: My mother wouldn't make me nervous. 418 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: So if she showed up, it would be we're talking 419 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: about it. 420 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 6: She'd be like trying to hide and be momager and 421 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 6: like try to sew up something that you know needs 422 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 6: sewing before I go in stage and then make some 423 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 6: comment like I've never played anywhere this small before. That's 424 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 6: what happened at mccabees when she came there and people 425 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 6: left her alone and say, you know, she's she's Grandma here, 426 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: she's not Carol because I had my kids there, and 427 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 6: she's like, leave her alone, she's being grandma right now. 428 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 5: And she said it was such a sweet show. I 429 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 5: don't think I've never played anywhere this small. 430 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I can't think of exactly when, but 431 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: I know that there are times when I get really 432 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 6: like just nervous for all the wrong reasons. 433 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: You know, you get nervous for all the wrong reasons. 434 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: I kind of never want to know if there's you know, 435 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to know who's on the guest list 436 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: or anything like that, or you know, I just want 437 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: to put it out of my head. 438 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 3: I just want to play. 439 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 6: And you know, I played the Roxy when I was 440 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 6: twenty one. 441 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Wow, wait, wait what you hear? 442 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 6: Stevie Nicks and Linda Ronstadt were in the audience. 443 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: Peter Asher, there you go. 444 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean it was like late seventies, early eighties, it 445 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: was early eighties. 446 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: It was eighty one, gotcha, and I must have been 447 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 6: I must have been pretty nervous. But I did this 448 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: really like punk rock thing where I walked out on 449 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 6: the table. I even put the sex Pistols song Problems 450 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: in the middle of my set. But yeah, and I 451 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 6: don't know, like I've befriended some mentor when I was younger, 452 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 6: I befriended a lot of mentor like beyond my mother, 453 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 6: you know, she's my mom, but like Stevie Nicks came 454 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: down to my first recording sessions, and you know, Danny 455 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 6: Korchmar produced my first record, and he would kind of say, like, Stevie, 456 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 6: come on, give Louise rock star. 457 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: Lessons and things like that. 458 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 6: Basically would just always be like, you know, do what 459 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 6: you do, be yourself, you know. And and throughout my 460 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 6: career there are times I've been insecure and I think, well, 461 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 6: how do they do it? You know, like it sounds 462 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 6: like I forgot everything, and I'd go, well, how do 463 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 6: they do it? And I remember talking to be York's 464 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 6: manager and I. 465 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: Was like, how does she do it? 466 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 6: Like she's so and he'd be like, she's non different 467 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 6: than you, Like it's just it's all the same, you know, 468 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 6: like you just so I kept thinking like, it's this 469 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 6: thing you put on, but then I realized it's just 470 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 6: something I embody. 471 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 5: You know, you think like a songwriter. 472 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 6: You hear a turn of a phrase and you go, 473 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 6: that's a title and you write it down, or you're 474 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 6: playing a guitar and you go, oh, you know that 475 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 6: thing was like, I can't pick up my guitar because 476 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 6: if I pick up my guitar, I know I'm going 477 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 6: to come up with the song. 478 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 5: And if I come up with a song. 479 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 6: Then I'm going to have to like feed it and 480 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 6: nurture it, send it to college, and I'm not going 481 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 6: to get any sleep tonight exactly. 482 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, Grant. Do the songs just 483 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: come to you and they download very quickly or for you? 484 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Is it a process? Or is it both? It can 485 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: happen either way. 486 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: I can think it can happen in any number of ways. 487 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: You know. 488 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember a song that just came to you 489 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: fully formed and it was like, Wow, that's a great 490 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: song and I gotta get it down. Yeah? 491 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: Sure, there were, you know, and sometimes those songs are 492 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: typically a little simpler in their form, and sometimes they 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: take me places where I just don't know where it's going. 494 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: You know. 495 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: The north Ridge earthquake was a horrific thing to go through. 496 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: This It was, you know, my family and I, My 497 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: wife and I we were living up in Santa Clarita 498 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: at the time, lost the house, you know, and in 499 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: that state of trauma, wound up kind of staying on 500 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: some blow up mattresses for a while. But I was 501 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 2: plunking around on the banjo and outcome these words devastation. 502 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: At last, finally we meet. It's the song mocking Birds. 503 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: And it came so quickly that way. I don't know 504 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: that it would have come in that fashion had I 505 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: not been in such a kind of like a. 506 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: Cat, you know. It's kind of my claws dug into 507 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: the couch, you know. 508 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 12: From executive producers Ben Higgins and Ashley Iikeneedti, this is 509 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 12: Famously Available. You'll meet our fabulous single women that you 510 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 12: may be familiar with already, Deanna Poppis, Mercedes Norfolk. 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You've come to the 515 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: right round table. 516 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 6: Relive the betrayal all over again with your favorite faithfuls 517 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 6: like Me, Tama. 518 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 5: Judge, Dolores Catana and Wells Adams. 519 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 8: In the Ultimate Rewatch podcast By Order of the Faithfuls, we. 520 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 5: Will take you inside the castle starting from season one 521 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: for Rewatch That's to die for. 522 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 8: Listen to by Order the Faithfuls on America's number one 523 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 8: podcast network, iHeart. 524 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: Follow by Order of the Faithfuls and start listening on 525 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: the free iHeartRadio app Today. 526 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 10: Hello, It's Danielle Fischl, Wright Strong and Wilfredell from Podmeats 527 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 10: World and we're bringing. 528 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: You Viva last Content. 529 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 6: That's right, we are back in Las Vegas, the City 530 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: of Sin and giving the people what they want, a 531 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 6: full week of y two k content. 532 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Wait, we're back in Vegas. 533 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 4: Tell me why? 534 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 5: Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency, it's sphere. Of course, 535 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 5: we sat. 536 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: Down with Kevin Richardson and Ajmclean just minutes before they 537 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: took the stage, and our very own Wilfredell basically became 538 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: the newest member of the band boy. 539 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 9: Band Please plus the man who has the longest running 540 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 9: comedy show on the strip, joins us and. 541 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 5: Gets his props. It's Carrot Top Baby, and finally we 542 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: all l ov her. 543 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 12: Ashley Simpson Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming 544 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 12: sold out Vegas residency. 545 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 9: It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want 546 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 9: to miss. 547 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 8: Listen to Podmeets World on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 548 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 8: or wherever you get your podcasts. 549 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: So that's my next question. Do you try to get 550 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: yourself in some kind of a state to write a 551 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: certain type of song or are you just sort of 552 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, your your antennas up all the time and 553 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: you're receiving whatever you can receive. It's like, do you fish? 554 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Do you always have your guitar with you? Are you 555 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: always having your fishing rod in the water I'm waiting 556 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: to catch because if you don't, and if you don't 557 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: have your guitar with you, if you're not open to it, 558 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: do you feel like these songs will just go to 559 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: somebody else? I'm not certain. 560 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: I like that analogy of fishing for something though, because 561 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: some days you have to show up and it's like 562 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: you get credit for that somehow, you know, well we 563 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: didn't throw you didn't catch anything last week. 564 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: Right or the one before. 565 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: But right, you know, this guy's been here seven days, 566 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: eight months in a while we haven't. Let's give him something, Guys, 567 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: it feels like that, so then give them a smash hit. Right. 568 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: Well, I find that when I when I go out 569 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: on the road and I'm by myself and I'm sitting 570 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: alone in a hotel room or backstage, that's when I 571 00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: have the perfect degree of solitude boredom, and I happen 572 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: to have the guitar in my hands. 573 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: So it's something about that, you know, that helps a lot. 574 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, Luise, have you ever tried to write a 575 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: hit song? 576 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: It's funny. 577 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 6: I just posted something about I'm getting all the songs 578 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 6: off of my hard drive that are sitting there, and 579 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 6: I'm trying to get all my friends to do the 580 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 6: same thing. And please, you know, let yourself be messy 581 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 6: and don't listen to the voice in your head that says, 582 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 6: go and write a hit song. I think it's the 583 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 6: worst advice you can give anybody. Like you know, you 584 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 6: can't write a hit song. You can only write a song. 585 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 6: You know what you do afterwards with it, maybe you 586 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 6: turn it into a hit, or maybe you write a 587 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 6: song and you go, that's a hit song, but you can't. 588 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 6: All right, there's a lot of like full time you 589 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 6: know songwriters who do just that. They sit and they 590 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 6: go like, let's write a hit song. But I feel 591 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 6: like I'm an artist. 592 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 5: I'm not. 593 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 6: I'm like my parents when I was young, before my 594 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 6: mother was doing this as an artist, they were songwriters. 595 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 6: They were craft people, writing songs for other people and 596 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 6: trying to write the next hit. That was something they 597 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 6: were doing. I learned I am not. I ain't one 598 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 6: of those. I came from a songwriting family, but I don't. 599 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: Have that head at all, gotcha. 600 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 6: I'm like an artist through and through. I'm like, make 601 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 6: a mess on a page, take the order, move it around. 602 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 6: And every time in my career where I've tried to 603 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 6: be a songwriter for someone else, I just feel like 604 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 6: I'm not embodying my own life, trying to get in 605 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 6: the head of like what that artist wants and what 606 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 6: that record company wants. And it's much more of a 607 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 6: business head than it is self express artist toy And 608 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 6: what we do is, you know, in the kind of 609 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 6: town tributeour tradition is we're storytellers, and we're like, I'm alive, 610 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 6: I'm on this planet, I'm feeling things, and my job 611 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 6: is to, you know, turn that into something, you know, 612 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 6: take my feelings of what it is to be alive 613 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 6: today and turn that into a tune. 614 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: Who have you seen live that you felt was truly 615 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: authentic and just an offering up to the heavens And 616 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: this is what I do. And it was this pure 617 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: beautiful attence Prince. 618 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 6: I mean, see Prince do like three hour show and 619 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 6: then go to a little club and do another three 620 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 6: hour secret show afterwards and never get tired. 621 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: Like I mean, it was a. 622 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 6: Tight show, but he he you know, he had the 623 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: craft and the discipline. Yeah, I mean, I've seen so 624 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 6: so many amazing show I saw Lana del Rey play 625 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 6: in Nashville, and I was blown away. Like I thought 626 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 6: in my head, I thought Lana del Rey was kind 627 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: of this like manufactured thing because of the way she looked. 628 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 6: And my friend said, oh no, she's heavy. She's heavy. 629 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 6: She's a heavy lyricist. And I was like, really, Lana 630 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 6: Delray And I went I was like, oh my god, 631 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 6: he's right, Like that was an amazing show. 632 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: Grant, what about you? Yeah, who have you seen that? 633 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: You just went, wow, oh goodness. 634 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: You know who really sticks out? Who sticks out like 635 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,479 Speaker 1: just a unique talent? 636 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: Michael Steye. Patti Smith. 637 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: I used to I used to go to Patti Smith 638 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: concerts in New York City in the mid seventies, early seventies. Yeah, wow, 639 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: the bottom line. And she would be speaking at Amnesty 640 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: International and I my sister's and I would sneak backstage 641 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: and eat the food. And she know, I met her 642 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: a couple of times. She blessed me. Once I actually 643 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: tried to Audi. She was in cbgbi's one night. I 644 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: mean I was about fifteen, and she was off to 645 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: the side talking to I guess a record executive, and 646 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: she had these she had these sunglasses on and a 647 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: trench coat, dark trench coat and with the blinders on 648 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: the side. And I heard I'd heard that she was 649 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: looking for a piano player. And I was playing a 650 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: lot of piano at the time. And I went up 651 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: and I asked. I entered, just completely busted into the 652 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: conversation and I said, Patty, I hear her looking for 653 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: a piano player, I'd like the audition. And she's just 654 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: like you're a little young. And I was so felt 655 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: so dejected that we just left and she followed us 656 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: out to the Bowery and we were about halfway down 657 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: the block and she said hey, and I turned around, 658 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: she goes, good luck. So I felt like I'd been 659 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of blessed by the punk goddess and I was 660 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: just a kid, and full circle. Her daughter got in 661 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: touch with me because she's a fan of the show 662 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: and invited me to come see Patty downtown La. She 663 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: was playing in some venue downtown LA, and I went 664 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: and reconnected. You know, it was like forty years later 665 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: or whatever. It was kind of kind of trippy. 666 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah that's great. 667 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm a big Patty Smith fan. 668 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: She has an incredible way. 669 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, just you know, you remind me energy in the room. 670 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, you do the same thing, by the way, 671 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: because the thing that I forgot about Patty. Yeah, And 672 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: what really brought me back into that my teenage years 673 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: is when I went to see her in La. The 674 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: story she told him between the songs and how damn 675 00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,240 Speaker 1: funny she is and endearing and smart and sarcastical little 676 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: bit and you kind of have some of that. Oh wow, 677 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: you it's like you find yourself rooting for the artist 678 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: because they just made you laugh and they were self 679 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: deprecating and great and open and lovely. Right, so it's like, yeah, 680 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: singer song, I love the song before you even start, right, 681 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: So you embody that too. 682 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 6: You're both you both are great storytellers. I mean when 683 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 6: you just told this story about Patti Smith, I saw 684 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 6: the whole I felt like I was I was just 685 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 6: right there. 686 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 5: I saw the whole thing. 687 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a big influence on me getting out of 688 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: the East Coast and breaking out and doing what I 689 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: really want to do. Yeah. Yeah, she was a big 690 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: influence on me. Who for you are your big influences? Grant? 691 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: Who is your biggest musical influence? Would you say? Oh 692 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: that's a hard call, heflo Springfield. 693 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: Oh well, Neil Young would be very you know, I 694 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: would be pretty important artist though, you know, Dylan, you 695 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 2: know all of those sort of thing. 696 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: Do you like that movie? 697 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: I did enjoy it. 698 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: I didn't enjoy it, but yeah, certainly those writers from 699 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 2: that period of time. 700 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, Louise, who besides your own mother, who are 701 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: your biggest influences? 702 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 4: You know? 703 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 5: I never I didn't listen to my mother. I mean 704 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 5: I was. 705 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 6: I was taken on tour a lot and heard endless shows, 706 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 6: and Tapestry only reminded me of my parents divorcing, so 707 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 6: I didn't want to ever listen to It's too Late Baby. 708 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 6: But yeah, I listened to a lot of Joni Mitchell, 709 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 6: you know, and Fleetwood Mac. You know that that Rumors 710 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 6: record was just such a such a thing. But I 711 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 6: also listened to a lot of soul music. Yeah, I 712 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 6: love slying the family Stone. I listened to Spinners, like 713 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 6: all that stuff was on the radio, you know when 714 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 6: I went to junior High. Yeah, man, the Spinners they 715 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 6: were tom All all all those. I have a really, 716 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 6: you know, good encyclopedic mix of like black and extremely 717 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 6: Caucasian music, you know, like Bear your Soul Confessionals mixed 718 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 6: with you know, give it a rhythm. 719 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: Right, excellent? How many times have you to do? Edit? 720 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: Is this? This is not the first time. 721 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: This might be the second. 722 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 5: It's a thing. 723 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: Now. 724 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 5: What was that Cornett Theater? 725 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 726 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 3: Years ago? 727 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: I think it was right after we we shot the 728 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls special. I was playing at Largo and invited 729 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: Louise come on down and. 730 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: We did nice. 731 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: We did where you leave there, and I think this 732 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: is only the second time we've ever done it. 733 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun. Thank you for having me booth times. 734 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: Would you ever consider hooking up and touring together? 735 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 5: Like you got to ask him? 736 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: No, No, he's a big chase. I know that. Yeah, 737 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: what do you think would you? 738 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 5: Would you put put them on the spot there? 739 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's the microphones and where Yeah, that's the place 740 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: to put people on the spot right here? What do 741 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: you think? 742 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 3: I think it's a very nice, nice billing. 743 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yes it really is. Huh you got can I 744 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: can I get a shout out from everybody? It was 745 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: a nice pairing today up there, wasn't it? I mean, 746 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: thank you? It really it really was. I mean not 747 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: that you didn't produce enough magic on your own sir, 748 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: uh and you did. They were very touching. I felt 749 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: myself wiping away a couple of two. I love musicians, 750 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: I love live performances. I love heartfelt, honest music. And 751 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: you were playing my favorite chord. It's an E. It's 752 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 1: it's an it's an E C thing. 753 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 3: It's an that's a gang symbol you're doing right there? 754 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: Thought a guitar. I don't know what it means, but 755 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: tell me to get me a guitar. I'll play it 756 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: for you. But uh, I just enjoyed what, you know, 757 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: I was. I was transfixed by by what you were 758 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: doing on the guitar and and this beautiful style and 759 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: these these these wonderful chords that you would slide up to, 760 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: you know, just like ah, yes, nice nice. Uh you know, 761 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: you'd get me in the pocket and then you'd take 762 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: me over to this different country over here, speaking the 763 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: same language. And it was just wonderful to be in 764 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: front of that, you know. And I also what I 765 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: love about you is you don't sing too loudly, and 766 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: I so appreciate that you just sort of like meld 767 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,479 Speaker 1: with the guitar and with the chords and the whole 768 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: spirit of what you're doing. So it all just works 769 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: so beautifully together. That's the magic I'm talking about. And 770 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: then when Louise came up, I mean you you had 771 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: to have felt the energy in the room, right, I mean, 772 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: it was just extraordinary. That's the only read. I don't 773 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: mean to put you on the spot, my god, yeah, no. 774 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, it is really a special thing and 775 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: kind of what Louise was saying earlier, any opportunity to 776 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 2: kind of put ourselves outside of our head and just 777 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 2: kind of be in the moment and respond. That's that's 778 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 2: music really, you know, it's that's the hardest thing when 779 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: you perform by yourself, I think is that, you know, 780 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: you could become very self involved and excellent. I enjoy 781 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: just kind of harmonizing and finding some kind of other 782 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 2: supportive role, you know, being a being a cast member 783 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: in a song, you know, I love that. 784 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 1: It's like standing out on stage and doing a long monologue. 785 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: It's terrifying. 786 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 787 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing to really bounce off except the sound 788 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: of your own voice and you know people in the 789 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 1: audience going ah something like that. You know, but it 790 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: was wonderful. So if you would consider it, you know, 791 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: I think I think I think it works. 792 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 6: We do have twenty five years of Warner Brothers doing 793 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 6: pre promotion for us, so that that's definitely something in 794 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 6: our favor. 795 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: They did. They did the hard part. You just got 796 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: to step in. Yeah, there you go. We'd love to 797 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: see that. Maybe uh holiday here, you could come by 798 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: and and play a few songs, you know, that would 799 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: be fun. We're gonna build a big stage for the podcast, 800 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: so you know, we could we get the heck out 801 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: of there for a couple. 802 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: Of minutes, you know. 803 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, I really appreciate you taking the time. I know, Grant, 804 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: you're a very very tight schedule. 805 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 806 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very tight schedule. So you gotta get going. 807 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: You're starting some dates. You've got a couple of gigs. 808 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: You got one in Nashville coming up, and then a 809 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: couple of more in the States and then you leave 810 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: for Europe. Ye, tell us about the US gigs. 811 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 2: East Coast starts September seventh, Okay, Vienna, Virginia, which is 812 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: right outside Washington, d C. 813 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah. 814 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: I got a Philadelphia gig in New York of Boston beautiful, Yeah, 815 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: and then Chicago. You know, just wonderful places to you know. 816 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: I don't get to see enough of them. I see 817 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 2: just you know, just a flash. I grab a piece 818 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 2: of a deep dish and I'm on my way. 819 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I know that, right, Louise. Anything coming up special 820 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: for you a lot? 821 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 6: I'm going to Memphis next week and a song I wrote. Well, 822 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 6: I started the Goffin and King Foundation, where I host 823 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 6: a lot of songwriting retreats and introduce a lot of 824 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 6: people to a lot of other people in these songs 825 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 6: live on, and these friendships and communities live on. So 826 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 6: one of the songwriters there is recording a song that 827 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 6: we wrote last year in Memphis, putting. 828 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 5: Horns on it. 829 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 6: Then back to la and then I'm taking thirty songwriters 830 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 6: to London and we're going to be writing in London 831 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 6: and recording at Abbey Roads Studios. So yeah, I have 832 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 6: a studio here where I'd been putting out my own 833 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 6: singles and producing things. But this has been a real 834 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 6: joy for me too to be part of this community 835 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 6: and collaborating and again like working with other people. A 836 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 6: lot of the heavy list lifting is kind of coming 837 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 6: from here. It's not like in here when there's two 838 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 6: it somehow breaks this thing in your head and you've 839 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 6: got like this third energy which is like bigger than you, 840 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 6: and suddenly, like a song appears and it's like there 841 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 6: was no labor. It just like wanted to be born. 842 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 6: And that's an amazing thing to be part of. 843 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: The act of creation. 844 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 4: It is. 845 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: It is an amazing thing. And so on writing and 846 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: you two do it so well. Top of your business. 847 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: Some of the best songwriting I've ever heard in performing, 848 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: It's an honor to talk to. Please come back to 849 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: the show. We have a hell of a lot more 850 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: to uncover. We're just scratching the surface here. Thank you 851 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: so much. Brantley Phillips, Thank you, Louise Goffin, thank you 852 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: so much. 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