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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody, d J Bucky here moved the

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Speaker 1: sticks back for our second kind of recap episode here

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Speaker 1: following the NFL Draft and Bucky, I'm excited we got

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Speaker 1: fresh off of living in the other world. You now

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Speaker 1: a player, nine years of a scout, most recently director

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Speaker 1: show man, he man, appreciate it. What's up for us now?

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Speaker 1: It's nice to have you in here. Man, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: just for those that don't know, we always try and

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Speaker 1: take people behind the curtain on here and what goes

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Speaker 1: on inside an organization. So your role, your last role

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Speaker 1: you explain it for him? Let me see, let me

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Speaker 1: because I've always felt like it was a fascinating divide

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Speaker 1: bringing some funk to the Movie Sticks podcast today. But hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for joining, man, appreciate its gonna get

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Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us, Buck, We got to

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Speaker 1: coming from Cossa Day, Jeremiah Cossa Day, Brooks. I might

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Speaker 1: I can darn sure promise you that. Hey, boys behind

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Speaker 1: the glass slowly hythe them. Nice work, Uh, great job.

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Speaker 1: All the lot of a lot of work went into

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Speaker 1: the draft prep that we did here and all the information,

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Speaker 1: they can't wait, they can't wait. Maybe Milake McDowell, maybe

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Speaker 1: was just trying to give a heartfelt thank you to

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Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you guys. Hats off to you guys,

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Speaker 1: because I tell you what I'm I'm darn proud of

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Speaker 1: what we're able to do. And they'll run up to

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Speaker 1: the draft this year. And it was a lot of

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Speaker 1: hard work. Me and Bucky get to do the fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: Sit out here and talk about it, but we know

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Speaker 1: you guys are working, putting in big hours to get

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Speaker 1: it out there. Thank you, guys, Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's gonna do it for us. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time here, I'll move the Sticks. Thanks for

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