WEBVTT - What's Going On With Roman Reigns?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side

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<v Speaker 1>Network from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez and Mike semper Viv. Ready are you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 1>here on or wrestling him over live. We are here

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<v Speaker 1>every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Stern Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>three Pacific, sixth season. Yes Friday, here in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got a lot to talk about here today.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am flying solo as Mike's semper Viv has

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<v Speaker 1>been stricken with illness. He's still stricken and so he's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna make it here today, but hopefully back on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I got it handled here today because in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we will be joined in the second segment of the

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<v Speaker 1>show by Dave Meltzer talking all of the news from

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<v Speaker 1>the newest edition of the Wrestling Observer News that are

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<v Speaker 1>available right now at Wrestling Observer dot com. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want all of the latest news, that's the place

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<v Speaker 1>to go for words of news and information on pro

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling and mixed martial arts. Tons of stories, including what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the Roman Rains. That's the top story,

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<v Speaker 1>and The Observer will talk to day about all of

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<v Speaker 1>this here today and the rest of the news as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We have an update on Shinjiro Otani and the news

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<v Speaker 1>is not good, so we'll tell you about that still

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<v Speaker 1>paralyzed from the neck down. We have an update on

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy Sitch. Nothing involving Tammy Sitch is ever good, but

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<v Speaker 1>she is no longer free, which based on history, is

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<v Speaker 1>good news. So she will not be driving a car

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon as she heads to her trial and xt

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<v Speaker 1>returning to touring for the first time in two years.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this a bit. We'll tell you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about that story. SmackDown lineup for tonight

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the new Japan lineup for tomorrow, Capital

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<v Speaker 1>Collision on Fight TV, and of course the Dynamite ratings

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Lot to get into today. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>Texas four to five seven eight zero seven five six six.

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<v Speaker 1>That is four to five seven eight zero seven five

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<v Speaker 1>six six. Brian at Wrestling Observer dot com at Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez on Twitter and maybe in the final same for

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<v Speaker 1>the show. It's Friday. They we'll take some phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how it calls. A lot to get into

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<v Speaker 1>after the break stick around Wrestling Observer Live. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez and Mike Semper

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<v Speaker 1>viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Bagging the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Albrez here Wrestling Observer Alive. No Mike sepper vvs

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<v Speaker 1>recuperating at home. Bes wishes to him and his family

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<v Speaker 1>on his illness, but he should be back on on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been texting me incessantly today. The sickness sucks. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys are aware of this or not.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking about it for for me, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>weeks now. But away we go with the news. Shinjirotani

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<v Speaker 1>has issued his first statements and suffering a cervical spinal

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<v Speaker 1>cord injury last month. Forty nine year old was injured

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<v Speaker 1>in the main event of a zero one event April

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<v Speaker 1>t after taking a German suplex into the corner. Remained

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<v Speaker 1>motionless after taking the move. Has not regained use of

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<v Speaker 1>his arms. Or legs surgery was performed to prevent further

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<v Speaker 1>deterioration of the injury. On April thirteenth. It is uh

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<v Speaker 1>it is May thirteenth today. It's been a month there

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<v Speaker 1>one post. His statement from Otoni on Friday also confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>he is still paralyzed from the neck down. Translation of

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<v Speaker 1>his statement reads, to all the hot professional wrestling fans

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<v Speaker 1>who love professional wrestling, and to all the people involved

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<v Speaker 1>in the professional wrestling industry. I'm really sorry for the

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<v Speaker 1>inconvenience and concern caused by my injury. Also, I am

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to everyone for their warm feelings. Now, I am

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<v Speaker 1>working hard every day for treatment and rehabilitation so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can return to everyone as soon as possible. I

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely return in front of you. We look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to your continued support of Zero one and professional wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he needs to apologize for being an

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<v Speaker 1>inconvenience to anyone as a result of his injury. A

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<v Speaker 1>benefit show will be hell June four at the Oda

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<v Speaker 1>Word General Gymnasium in Tokyo. Eugena Gata, Tomlwaukee hone Ma

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<v Speaker 1>Togy Macabe from New Japan. Her schedule to take part

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<v Speaker 1>progressing no will also be sending wrestlers to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the best to shinjiro Otani. I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that he can make a recovery. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a month and still paralyzed from the neck down,

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<v Speaker 1>So he needs all the good wishes and thoughts that

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<v Speaker 1>he can get because that's a that's a rough injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is quite frankly, not a great update. So

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<v Speaker 1>all the best to him and his family. Sunny back

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<v Speaker 1>in jail, we talked about this story. Uh, they they

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<v Speaker 1>allowed her out on bond T fifty million two or

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollar bond quarter of a million dollars, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course everybody was outraged about that because you know, she's

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<v Speaker 1>been prohibited from driving and she continues to drive. And

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<v Speaker 1>they got her toxicology report back and her blood alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>content was over three times the legal limit when she

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in this most recent accident, which led to

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<v Speaker 1>the death of seventy year old man. So the state

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<v Speaker 1>argued that there is a substantial probability that six committed

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<v Speaker 1>dui manslaughter in a March twenty five crash that killed

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<v Speaker 1>a seventy five year old man, and that Sich posts

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<v Speaker 1>a threat of harm to the community due to her

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<v Speaker 1>long history of d u I offenses. A judge made

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<v Speaker 1>the decision to revoke her bond, granting the State of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's request for pre trial detention. The judge ruled there

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<v Speaker 1>was no reasonable way to keep the public safe from

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<v Speaker 1>six other than complete bond revocation. She was arrested May

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<v Speaker 1>six after her toxicology results came back blood alcohol level

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<v Speaker 1>point oh eight is the limit she was at point

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<v Speaker 1>to eight. Oh that's over three times, three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half times. She has posted the She had posted two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty seven thousand, five hundred dollar bond and

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<v Speaker 1>uh that has since been revoked. So, of course the

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<v Speaker 1>March was the accident and driver of the vehicle who

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<v Speaker 1>failed to stop Tamara Lynn Sich and Julian Laster, sevent

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<v Speaker 1>year old seventy five years old was killed in the crash.

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<v Speaker 1>So she will be in jail until I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>this is resolved, but she will be in jail as

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<v Speaker 1>she awaits trial. So that's the update on Tammy Sitch

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<v Speaker 1>talking about n x T and UH, these this this

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<v Speaker 1>brand need to go on the road because these wrestlers

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<v Speaker 1>are not learning how to work right now. The restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>are learning how to choreograph matches for a life television show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they choreograph matches for the next live television show.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you watch the show and sometimes you think,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, quite frankly, you know that person has

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<v Speaker 1>had nine matches, and I'm not I'm not exaggerating by

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<v Speaker 1>the way. You know that person's had nine matches. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't so bad. You know. Some would even argue, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just let them, you know, just do this every week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the problem is they get called up to the

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<v Speaker 1>main roster eventually, some of them, and you ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get a week to practice your match. You may think

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<v Speaker 1>you have a week, you may have a match, a

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<v Speaker 1>match announced for the following week, but you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>the old guy shows up on Monday and changes your match,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything you worked on it's out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got to be able to You gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>able to work, at least to a degree. So they

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<v Speaker 1>need to go on the road and they will be

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<v Speaker 1>returning to touring for the first time and over two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Post Wrestling is confirmed and XT will return to the

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<v Speaker 1>road with house shows in Florida in June. So we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this on Observer Radio and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling then was that it's probably gonna be what

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<v Speaker 1>they used to call the Coconut Loop and just small

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<v Speaker 1>shows and tiny buildings around Florida, because you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>n x T was n x T one point oh

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<v Speaker 1>and they had some of the best wrestlers in the

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<v Speaker 1>world having great matches and you know what, what to

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<v Speaker 1>the audience would be considered big stars. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>did tour and they didn't do all that well outside

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<v Speaker 1>of if you ran like a takeover. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they came to Seattle, and normally in Seattle, these these

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<v Speaker 1>w w E shows are in these giant buildings, and

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<v Speaker 1>for n x T they ran the local Paramount Theater

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a cool theater and there was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there were people there and they were hot. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was not a five thousand seed building. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a ten thousand c building. So the reality is they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to draw on the road at all with

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<v Speaker 1>this n x T two point oh crew. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. So they will be doing these small

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<v Speaker 1>buildings and uh, that will be July of twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave reporting the newsletter last June, uh that they would

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<v Speaker 1>be going on the road, and uh, it's been almost

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<v Speaker 1>a year they didn't go on the road. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>got to go back on the road again, and it

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<v Speaker 1>will be as noted the Coconut Loop and small buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a couple of people here on the chat

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<v Speaker 1>saying that their local building was on the Coconut Loop.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you want to make fun of

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<v Speaker 1>n x T being on national television and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to sell like two tickets to a show, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you can if you want to, But bro, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if there's twenty five people in the building and

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<v Speaker 1>these wrestlers need to go and work in front of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five people and learn how to do matches. Uh great,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all for it. And quite frankly, what they should

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<v Speaker 1>do is, uh it should be a requirement that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on this little loop, you gotta work a different

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<v Speaker 1>person every night, and you don't just get to work

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<v Speaker 1>that same match over and over and over again. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that if you go to a w W E

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<v Speaker 1>S show back in the day, I mean everybody just

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<v Speaker 1>worked the same match over and over again. But you

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<v Speaker 1>did have more freedom on house shows, and uh, for

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<v Speaker 1>developmental it's even more important to not work the same

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<v Speaker 1>match every night. I don't. I just feel that like,

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<v Speaker 1>if these wrestlers are gonna get any better, they should

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<v Speaker 1>be on this Coconut loop with the green people, with

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<v Speaker 1>the more advanced people, the advanced people trying to teach

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<v Speaker 1>them how to work, have a finish call in the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gotta learn. The matches maybe horrible, you may

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<v Speaker 1>only draw twenty five people, but that's the way that

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<v Speaker 1>this has to be done. So we'll see what they

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<v Speaker 1>end up doing on these Coconut Loop shows, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the way that needs to be done. SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>is tonight. Are you ready for SmackDown? Well, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>r K Bro confronting the Bloodline. This of course is

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<v Speaker 1>over unifying the tag team titles, which they teased for

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<v Speaker 1>a month and then did not deliver. Now they're teasing

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<v Speaker 1>it again, and uh, internally, the idea is, well, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the match, but we ain't gonna unify these titles.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't even know what the point of doing

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<v Speaker 1>the matches if you're not going to unify the titles.

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<v Speaker 1>Is advertised, but you know, plans do change. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>will unify the titles and then ununify them shortly thereafter.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got Sasha and Naomi defending the women's tag

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<v Speaker 1>titles against Nattie and Shana Basler. I'm not telling you

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be a title change, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the title changes out of the question. And Kofi

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<v Speaker 1>Kingston will face Butch who was returned from Miss Hiatus.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in a moment with Dave Meltzer, Observer Live off

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<v Speaker 1>taking you were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez and Mike semper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show, Brian Elber is here, Wrestling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>Alive day. Meltz are joining us here today. Newest edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Observers available Wrestling Observer dot com. All of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest stories from the week and uh to day.

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<v Speaker 1>You're typing furiously during the break. What's going on right now? Nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing major, just just catching up on things. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>top story the Observers about Roman reigns and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this story on Observer Radio also at Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer dot com. And uh, he's gonna be working a

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<v Speaker 1>more limited schedule, and there's a lot of details in

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<v Speaker 1>the new issue, but I couldn't help a note that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the number of pay per view shows that that

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be doing this year. You know, you had

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<v Speaker 1>written what we're talking maybe six or something of that nature. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>six to eight. Yeah, Um, there is a number that

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<v Speaker 1>they've agreed to, but I don't know what the exact

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<v Speaker 1>number is, but I think six states somewhere in that range.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought up seven and they said close. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I said six eight. So so okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's working six day pay per view shows. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that he would do some SmackDown shows to build up

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<v Speaker 1>the pay per view shows, and he'll do He'll do TV.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll do TVs in conjunction with the pay per views,

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<v Speaker 1>like what Lesnar and Goldberg do. Yeah, and occasionally he'll

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<v Speaker 1>he'll show up on raw probably yeah. Yeah. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's got he's got dates. Um, they and they'll start

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<v Speaker 1>being announced soon, I presume. Um. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>pulled from all advertising for everything except for Money in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bank and SummerSlam, but um, he will be advertised,

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<v Speaker 1>probably relatively soon for the dates that he will be

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<v Speaker 1>appearing on the shows. We could be doing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of match you know what I think on t VS,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess he's I don't know that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a complete Lessner in Goldberg where you never do

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<v Speaker 1>a match on TV, but it wouldn't surprise me if

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<v Speaker 1>it's close to that. And and of late, if you

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<v Speaker 1>notice on SmackDown he rarely was doing matches on television.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got no problem with the guy that has

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<v Speaker 1>earned the right to essentially have a schedule like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for him, Okay, good for him, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious question is chon what not? Just that? Like

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<v Speaker 1>the same, the same, the same, the same reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Lessner was but but less Goldberg. They they had a

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<v Speaker 1>title and there was another title on the other show.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me, the whole point of unifying a title

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<v Speaker 1>is that you have a champion that can then appear

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<v Speaker 1>on both shows and prop up both shows. But as

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<v Speaker 1>as dual champion, he's largely still a SmackDown wrestler. He's

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<v Speaker 1>making rare appearances on Raw. He's not gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 1>anyhowse shows. He's not even gonna be doing all of

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<v Speaker 1>the pay per views, And you know, people would talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how Lesnar hijacked the title. Wellus, I'll find it

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<v Speaker 1>good if you have another champion, but they don't, So

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<v Speaker 1>we've unified the titles to put it on a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's barely going to be there and not going to

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<v Speaker 1>even be on the other show. It would make sense

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<v Speaker 1>to have a championship on somebody else, especially since Rains

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really need it, um at least until WrestleMania. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, like, you know, to put the title on

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else through like October November, and then if the

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<v Speaker 1>idea is if you're gonna do Rock and Rom and

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<v Speaker 1>um Roman Reigns and you want that to be a

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<v Speaker 1>championship match, get the title back on Roman Reigns, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the year, maybe at the Rumble

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. That makes perfect sense to have it on

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<v Speaker 1>him now when you have all these pay per views. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that it needs to be on him, But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>decision they made. And then of course we've got smack

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<v Speaker 1>Down tonight and they are teasing the unification of the

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<v Speaker 1>tag team titles, which you also reported they have plans

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver them act but not the step. Well, they

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<v Speaker 1>may deliver the step, but that but that was the

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<v Speaker 1>That was the idea a week ago was that they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't playing on unifying the titles. But they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the unification match I'm gonna guess in Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>on the pay per view. You know, it's come to

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, come the week of the show or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>They may end up unifying the tag titles. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that they won't, but you know, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>was discussed was it's probably not It's probably a good

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<v Speaker 1>idea to set the champions with two different shows. So

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<v Speaker 1>they made that decision about the tag team champions of

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<v Speaker 1>another actual world champion. Yeah, well, I mean I can

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<v Speaker 1>see the argument of having one world champion. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>can almost see the argument of one tag champion, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would disagree with it at this stage. Um, just

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<v Speaker 1>because the tag title doesn't mean that much. It's better

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<v Speaker 1>to have two of them, you know, one for each brand,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's all the tag teams can it's it puts

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<v Speaker 1>more tag teams in a position to be relevant. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I can you know the one world title? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea that you've got, you know, like in

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, the king, the real king, and you

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<v Speaker 1>go after the real king. Of course I would want

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<v Speaker 1>the world title and someone that's they're all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I mean again it's you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can certainly make the argument in the n w A

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<v Speaker 1>era that you know, the world champion was made special

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<v Speaker 1>because you only saw him, you know, once every month

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<v Speaker 1>or two rather than um every week, and and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he might be in your city you know, six

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<v Speaker 1>times a year, you know, or or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, back in the days when like they did

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<v Speaker 1>monthly shows or in some cities weekly shows. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>an argument in the precedent that that keeping it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the championship max is sparing in your local market, meant

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<v Speaker 1>that it meant more and gave it more prestige. But

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<v Speaker 1>none of that, I don't think that's any of that's

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<v Speaker 1>really relevant today. So the other big story is what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Coda Boushi. And uh, you know, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this story the other day and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thought like, if you don't like it, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could just quit. But uh, I mean, clearly

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to quit. He wants to get fired.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's going on here. He he's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of his contract so he can wrestle somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to give up wrestling, but he's very

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<v Speaker 1>unhappy with New Japan, and um, yeah, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>the basic situation. So he's uh, I mean, he's published

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<v Speaker 1>text messages. I mean, there's he's he's uh, he's burned

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<v Speaker 1>a bridge here. It appears he's attempting to burn a bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had signed what they had described as a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime contract. I don't even know what that even means.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't year contract, a twenty year contract. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's under contract until the end of this year actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so he actually could have set it out and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be what happens, you know, And he's you know again,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to get his shoulder back, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still he doesn't want to wrestle until his shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>is close to ready. And it's you know, his stroulder,

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<v Speaker 1>his shoulders a week. So um, you know, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they probably want him to wrestle, or

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<v Speaker 1>would hope for him to wrestle. They wanted him obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted him back to the new Japan Cup. So

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<v Speaker 1>why why was it annalys that he'd signed a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>contract if it was actually three years? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know about the status of it's pro

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<v Speaker 1>it's pro wrestling. There's a lot of things said aback

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<v Speaker 1>contracts that may not be accurate, um, especially more now

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<v Speaker 1>than ever before. I think, I mean, they could only

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<v Speaker 1>just say a long term contract. They specifically said lifetime, lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>They did say, they did just say lifetime. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you do that for? I don't know, there's no I mean,

0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:42.199
<v Speaker 1>who has a lot even the undertaker, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lifetime contract, although I think it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen year contract, which is which you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his life left. Yeah, a good percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>it probably, So obviously the question, I mean, I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been on the oppression that Codabushi's family like they have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money, and so this is not like

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<v Speaker 1>his his he'd be okay if he didn't wrestle again,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be okay. But I guess, but where do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to wrestle that? If you don't want to move

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<v Speaker 1>to the US? I mean, to do indies around Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>D d T. What's he gonna do? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know even know if he

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<v Speaker 1>knows what he's gonna do. UM. I think he's just

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's just frustrated, you know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of whatever it is. You know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he feels disrespected by New Japan. And also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to remember that these guys, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Koda bushy level, there's there's when you get to

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<v Speaker 1>be that good, there's there's something that's you have certain

0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>driving thing that that most people can't really fully understand,

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.879
<v Speaker 1>and that that that makes you that good. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he's got that. And then when you're injured and can't perform,

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it does a double whammy on you. And so he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's in that state where you know, it's like and

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<v Speaker 1>and and even worse for him, it's not just the wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't look like Koda Bushi unless you've got

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<v Speaker 1>like this training whammy too. So he's got the wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>wammy and the training women he can't do either. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably depressed as all hell. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of what's going down here is that he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably severely unhappy because he can't lift weights and train

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<v Speaker 1>like he wants to. He can't wrestle, which is his outlet,

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<v Speaker 1>and he feels disrespected by the company that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked with when he got hurt, and maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blames their pressure for him coming back early from the pneumonia,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that had a part in him getting hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the g One when he wasn't when

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't nearly and he was and he did that

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<v Speaker 1>growing G One tournament. Well, I do like about this,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he's doing, is that we do actually finally have

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's taking a stand against this culture in Japan of hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're hurt, you just work unless you're like badly hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>And then because we always heard that like if someone

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<v Speaker 1>missed a show, something must be really bad, really bad

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<v Speaker 1>they missed a show, and it's actuallyiculous. It's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're hurt, you shouldn't be working a show. And and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a culture that probably would be much better off

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:08.439
<v Speaker 1>if we had more people like a Boush He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming back if my shoulders destroyed. Yeah, look

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<v Speaker 1>I saw people who were literally on crutches backstage after surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>going the ring and attempt to wrestle and wrestle very

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<v Speaker 1>poorly because of it, because of the mentality that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't miss advertised dates there yet, I mean, that's another era,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that you know much of another era. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've seen some stuff in Japan that is uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've seen in the United States too, but

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<v Speaker 1>it but it probably is more severe in Japan than

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<v Speaker 1>than the United States as far as the mentality that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mismatches due to injuries unless you're like completely incapacitated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean quite frankly, the the rule that they have

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<v Speaker 1>where if you're advertised for a title match and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't make the title match, your strip to the title

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<v Speaker 1>it seems kind of a little bit severe. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you advertise a match that you can be there,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's but that's that's the same in

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.400
<v Speaker 1>UFC too, sure, but I mean that that's all fine

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>and good. But if you're a low if you're a

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>sheety or whatever, you've got no title and you're hurt,

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you should be able to not wrestle until

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>you're not hurt. I mean, I mean, I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, you do have the ability

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to do so. Um, they're always gonna and that's that's

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>you know again, Like how many times have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States the same thing where where somebody

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<v Speaker 1>has had, like to say, knee surgery and they say

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be out for eight months, and four

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.880
<v Speaker 1>months later the promotion calls him up. We need you back,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>we need you back. I mean, I've heard that my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life in American progressing industry. White, Well, listen, we

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<v Speaker 1>have yeah, we have did to break. Thanks Dave, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>thing again. Sorry it was blurry for a while here,

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<v Speaker 1>but every now and then, this this camera's got a

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<v Speaker 1>life of its own. So anyway, we fixed it and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm bright and clear. Hey, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>join the show, here's how we do it. Four to

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<v Speaker 1>five seven eight zero seven five six six is the

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<v Speaker 1>phone number to text four to five seven eight zero

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<v Speaker 1>seven five six six if you wanna call, Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines are open, and the phone number eight four

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<v Speaker 1>four nine one three seven eight four four three seven seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching Sonic of a Hedgehog with my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and there's a scene where, like I've

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<v Speaker 1>never actually watched the first movie. I'm just in the

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<v Speaker 1>room when it's on, but there's something that happens with

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<v Speaker 1>like a power surge and all the power goes out

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in the city or whatever, and then they they cut to, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut to a scene in the police department or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and the phones are ringing and uh and basically goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that noise? I said, what were you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>She's talking about the phone ringing because she doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what a phone is. So for those of you that

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<v Speaker 1>know what a phone is, if you have a phone

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to call, that eight four four seven

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<v Speaker 1>number is what us old folks and know as a

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<v Speaker 1>toll free number. You don't pay a toll to call

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<v Speaker 1>that number if you're on a land line. I realize

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<v Speaker 1>all of this going over a lot of your heads,

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.479
<v Speaker 1>but if you have a landline, that phone number is

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<v Speaker 1>toll free. You don't have to pay the toll. For

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the other of you listening that are young, just call

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<v Speaker 1>the number, wait on hold, and then tell me what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind and I'll get to the text messages

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Capital Collision is tomorrow for New Japan Pro Wrestling. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be available on Fight TV. Yes, the last

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>show Windy c Right was disaster. Yes, New Japan has

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<v Speaker 1>promised significant improvements. Guys, remember back in the day before

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<v Speaker 1>there was like a w w E network and Ring

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor had that streaming service and some other companies

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<v Speaker 1>always try to stream, and every single time it was

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<v Speaker 1>like an absolute disaster and there'd be buffer ring or

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't get in, or the quality was horrible, or

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<v Speaker 1>it would die, and every time they were like, next time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get it. Next time. Well, luckily it's now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now and man, I'm streaming beautiful HD. It's working

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So they promised significant improvements for this coming

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday's Pay per view. Hiroshi Tonahashi defends the i w

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<v Speaker 1>g P United States Title against John Moxley, Will Osprey

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and Juice Robinson in a four way That's for the

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>U S title. Okada and Trent Bretta face j White

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and Hikkolao to my hero is. She faces Eddie Kingston

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>in a mean guy match, Brody king and Minor Suzuki

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>in another mean guy match. We have Jeff Cobb, Aaron Hanna, a,

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Mark Davis, and Kyle Fletcher against Jonah, Mikey Nichols, Shane

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Haste and Bad Dude Tito great o'con versus Chase Owens,

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Fred Ross Or, David Finley, Tangaloa, Rocky Romero and Yu

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>yah Oui Mura against our own Filthy Tom Lawler, j R. Crados,

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<v Speaker 1>Royce Isaacs, Drell Nelson and Danny Limelight, rend Narita versus

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Fredericks and Kevin Knight versus the d k C.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a subscriber to Wrestling Observer dot com, Video

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<v Speaker 1>dot f w online dot com, don't miss out. You

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday can enjoy the next episode of Filthy four Daily,

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<v Speaker 1>where we find out if my cocky friend Tom made

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<v Speaker 1>it through the weekend because this Sunday is his birthday,

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and I believe this Sunday is the day that he

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<v Speaker 1>once again puts his New Japan Strong open weight title

0:29:55.680 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>on the line against Fred Rosser. Red Rosser who is

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>lost twice twice two filthy Tom Lawler twice, both times,

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 1>by the way, voted match of the Year for New

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Japan Strong, and they're gonna do it one more time

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>on Tom's birthday? Does he have what it takes to

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<v Speaker 1>do this one more time? We're gonna a special show Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other, either a celebration or a

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>memorial to Tom's rain as strong open weight champion. Got

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the line, so let's uh,

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>let's do this Portsmouth, You're on the air. What's going on? Hey,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>what's up? This is a Brandon here in Portsmouth. Um? Well,

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I can't wait for Monday. It's gonna

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>be a great, uh podcast? There was Tom? Now? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand if they do Rock versus Roman. Um, if

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>they do that match, that the title being on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the mark he met. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if the titles on the line, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>there's any chance the Rock wins that match, But if

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>the title isn't on the line, because maybe Roman has

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<v Speaker 1>lost the title for whatever reason and it's Rock versus Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>for like who's really the head of the table. Roman

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<v Speaker 1>may end up still winning, but I still be like, well,

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>there might be a chance and maybe the Rock wins that.

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>So it kind of things like it would make better

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<v Speaker 1>sense to not have the title on the line, And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe coming from that perspective, well, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much for the call. I mean from my perspective,

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there ain't nothing they can do that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think that Rock is gonna win that match. I mean,

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe if it were like, you know, Roman

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Reigns is gonna retire and it's his last match ever,

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and uh, in that case, you know, probably would't matter

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>if you put over the Rock. But I mean, if

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Roman is not retiring, I just cannot see him losing

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Rock un or any circumstance. Rock is there

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to put over Roman Reigns and U And it is

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>funny because there this Roman Reigns push and uh, you know,

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>beating Brock, unifying the titles, never getting beaten. I mean,

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the idea here really is supposed to be to build

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>up Roman Reigns as the absolute, unbeatable greatest champion of

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<v Speaker 1>all time, which in theory also makes the title that

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>he holds the most prestigious, valuable title anywhere in all

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>of pro wrestling. But it does not feel that way

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to me. I mean, it probably does to the w

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<v Speaker 1>w E audience and everything like that, because I'm sure

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>they think somebody deserves that belt. But you know, I

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think that if you do the Rock versus Roman

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Reigns and WrestleMania in Los Angeles, you don't need that

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>title on the line. I think it's it's it doesn't

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't need it, like try to create a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a new superstar with that title in another match. Romans

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>already top of the food chain, So I don't know,

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, I don't think you need the title for

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that match one way or the other. And I don't

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>think title or no title. I think that that rocks

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>winning one way the other. But you know, trying to

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>predict the winner or w w E match is a

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>exercise and folly. Austin, Texas, You're on the air, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? Hey, Brian shoutouts in twitch as um. Frankie

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Kazarian is going to be at the Impact tapings this weekend,

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and I'm wondering if this is just a one off

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to reciprocate for Diana Prozo and w Moore CBN on Dynamite,

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>or if this is like the beginning of a main

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like you know, talent exchange, things that are going to

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>be doing again like long term. Well, I want to

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much for the call. I I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I never I never asked my guests would be probably

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<v Speaker 1>more are similar to what you said first, the one

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<v Speaker 1>time exchange, because it doesn't appear that we're we're in that.

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>A while ago, it was like, you know, people are

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>going back and forth, storylines, back and forth. But now

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it just appears, you know, they're they're Impact and a

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Double are on the same page. And if a double

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to borrow someone, they can ask and probably get

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>that person and then they'll exchange somebody and Frankie because

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>can go and do a job for somebody or whatever.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I would presume that's what it is.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>But I can I can try to find out. But

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen much of an indication that people are

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna be sent over for longer periods of time, but

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>but perhaps they will be all right, let's go to

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>uh not Ryan, Ryan, you're band, No, you're banned. I

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>know you're listening right now. You have been banned from

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>the show. So it's like coda Bushi's contract, Like you've

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>got to take a break. You and your brother are

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>both banned. All right, let's go to Chatsworth. I think

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that's correct. You're on the air. What's going on, hey, Brian,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>what's up now? Much? What's happening? I just have one

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.720
<v Speaker 1>question for you. Uh, what one wrestler do you really

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:22.919
<v Speaker 1>want to see go through Surrey's magic white smoke? Oh? Man,

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought this is gonna be a trolling question, but

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>this one's right up my alley. Well, honestly, I mean,

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna top body Heyward going through and becoming a cheerleader?

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, actually, I can think of a few wrestlers

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that I would like to go through her transformation tunnel.

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately they've both been fired. I would have liked to

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>have seen Harlan to go through that tunnel and come

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>out in some silly costume and have to do something wacky.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>That would have been fun I would have liked to

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>have seen Dexter Loomis go through that tunnel. He actually

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>would have been He might have been better than Body

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Hayward going through that tunnel. If if if Dexter Loomis

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>had gone through the tunnel and come out the other

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>side dresses like uh, you know Indie Heartwell, I think

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it would have been fantastic. But I got some suggestions here.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Not Tony D'Angelo. I don't think it'd be as funny.

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Orange Cassidy, Uh, Joe Gacy, Huh, No, I want to

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>see something. I want to see somebody. You have to

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>have somebody that has like the stoic gimmick and and

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>then they come through and they have to be like

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>completely totally different. That's that's what I think is uh.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Not omas No, he already tries to have a No,

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>not elstra Black. Honestly, I think that my my, my, my,

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>my two were the best to Harland and uh and

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the creep from the Creep Farm, Dexter Loomis. But Norris Suzuki,

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>actually he would do a great job. He would do

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a great job coming through that that tunnel. It actually

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.799
<v Speaker 1>would be great. If Ezekiel showed up, but he went

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>through the tunnel and he became a Lias. That would

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>have been fantastic, But that's a pre tape you can't

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>do because we would have heard about it by now.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that those are the see you guys hate

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 1>n x T two point oh, but you know you're

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, Gunter. I actually would love to see

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Valter come through the tunnel. He'd be a good one.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>He'd be a great one. Or yeah, just like everybody

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that has the worst gimmick on the main roster, they

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:29.439
<v Speaker 1>could go through the tunnel and be their old great

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>gimmick again, like Sammy Zane, he's all annoying and he

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>goes through the tunnel, he comes back because the baby

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>face Sammy Zane from that'd be great. And uh yeah,

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, who else do we have? Oh nobody else

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 1>on the line. Let's go to text messages. Actually, first

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>we should mention Dynamite. On Wednesday night, it was upo

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>point eight percent in viewers eighty thousand viewers eighteen forty

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>nine that at a point three three they were fifth

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:05.600
<v Speaker 1>on the cable charts. Uh. They had, of course NBA competition,

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:10.760
<v Speaker 1>but also the season premiere of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yeah,

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>they also did a point three three, but had slightly

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>more viewers in the demos, So that would mean that,

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, usually the season premiere is kind of the

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 1>peak unless it like really catches on. So I would

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>guess that they probably won't be defeated by the Real

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Housewives of Beverly Hills going forward, but you never know.

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>And those are the numbers. Back in the moment, Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Mike simper Viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Well

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>back here on the show, right, Albert is here Wrestling

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Observer Live. No Mike simper Viv. But uh, little Lord

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>faunt Leroy here has been begging me during the break

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>to help co host. He says he has something very

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>very important to say, so since it's a short segment,

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let him say his piece. So Flora's yours,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>faut Lerey, go for it. Hey, Ryan in Cumberland, You're fired.

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Lal lal lal ha ha, you geek, get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>you absolute geek. You're the geekiest geek that ever geeked

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen a geek like you since the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I went to an F four W cony. You

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<v Speaker 1>little idiot. God you gimma, what's the old saying? You

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<v Speaker 1>give him a and should he takes a mile? I

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<v Speaker 1>should have known that was a mistake, but he did

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<v Speaker 1>mention the f W convention and if you are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in going to our convention, which is in Vegas all

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<v Speaker 1>weekend end of the month. Hey, we got some tickets

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<v Speaker 1>available to a couple of things. I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 1>what's left. The combo ticket package with a an A

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<v Speaker 1>W ticket and a Q and A ticket is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't get that one. But I think we

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<v Speaker 1>still have a couple of Q and A tickets left

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<v Speaker 1>general admission only. Uh, that's Saturday. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to our our Q and A Dave and I

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<v Speaker 1>the Silver Nugget Casino. They're always fun. You get to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up and talking to the mic and ask a

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<v Speaker 1>question and then you know we answered. That's a Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>and you can grab that. Ed in San Antonio has

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<v Speaker 1>got a show. We got a group dinner Texas Day Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>five pm sharp. I'll be there, Vinny. I think Dave's

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<v Speaker 1>going to the one I'm going for sure. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about everyone else. I'm going to eat someone. You

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<v Speaker 1>can eat steak at the Texas Day Brazil. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to attend any of these with us, f

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<v Speaker 1>W Vegas dot brown paper Tickets dot com or f

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<v Speaker 1>W online dot com slash Vegas I want. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike as always, callers and listeners under the studio, all

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<v Speaker 1>of my top tier YouTube subscribers, Twitch homies. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys next time. Have a great weekend, Wrestling

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