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Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now, what's up everybody out there? You are

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Speaker 1: listening to Stradio Lab. Spoiler alert, Georgia's hungover. I ruined it. Sorry, um,

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Speaker 1: this is um, this is our podcast. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: like do a formal like intro, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: what am I doing stopping? What kind of formal intro?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, it's the only podcast about

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Speaker 1: straight culture, but also not at all a lot. I

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Speaker 1: feel like you've you've kind of it started out as

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Speaker 1: part of the intro. Yeah, suddenly the Coons is me.

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Speaker 1: You could say, well, that's the issue with doing anything

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Speaker 1: semi ironically is that suddenly, you know, you find yourself, uh,

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Speaker 1: starring in a Marvel movie. It's a real slippery slope. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean truly. I remember, like l O L used

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Speaker 1: lay ha. And then I was like, okay, well now

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Speaker 1: now I say l O L ironically and now l

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Speaker 1: O L is just completely average and normal. I'm so

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Speaker 1: lost with what you're saying. I've been saying l O

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Speaker 1: L the same exact way for like twenty years. L

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Speaker 1: has never changed meanings for you. It's never had different implications. Literally,

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Speaker 1: it's always like it's essentially just like a little nod

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Speaker 1: you'll be like, oh, it's like someone's like running late,

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Speaker 1: Rothel yeah. And then it was like, okay, well that

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Speaker 1: something to me is just like, yep, this is completely

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Speaker 1: average and normal. No, it's just part of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Um unlike LAMO, which I always try to say, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh god, I sound like someone's uncle.

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Speaker 1: Lm AO can't has not been repurposed in a cool

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Speaker 1: ready for it. This brings me to like something I

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to talk about, which is and we um.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there was a piece that I had no

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Speaker 1: involvement in in Gawker recently about the idea of like

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Speaker 1: tell anymore what level of irony someone is operating on.

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Speaker 1: And I've been really struggling with this with the current

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift cycle. I like, you don't understand. I don't understand,

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Speaker 1: like what everyone the deal is? Do you do people

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Speaker 1: actually think Jake Jillen Hall is like sad? Like what

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Speaker 1: are people talking about? How can you emotionally get behind

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Speaker 1: that narrative in like a sincere way? It's so okay,

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Speaker 1: so fine, it's not sincere, But then but then what

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Speaker 1: I think everyone is so broken and lonely that they're

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand, Like, and I'm not you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a hater, and I also

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Speaker 1: choose to opt into a narrative where she is now

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Speaker 1: That's crazy to me. I think it's it's very weird.

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Speaker 1: I Taylor Swift is a very I'm like, I get

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Speaker 1: scared talking about her because I'm literally like She's going

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Speaker 1: and I don't. I'm not a hater because I'm afraid

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Speaker 1: I wish I were a fan because she's constantly putting

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Speaker 1: personal life, which seemed fun to get on board with,

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Speaker 1: the idea that she's reclaiming her early work, which is

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Speaker 1: then I was like, Okay, so these new albums are

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Speaker 1: in terms of like her directing a short film that's

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Speaker 1: people acting out the song and it's about Jake Jillenhall,

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Speaker 1: who she did it for like two months. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: also like I saw this is like sorry to be um,

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Speaker 1: sorry to do this, but I saw something. I saw

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Speaker 1: that's patently false. Jake Joel and Hall has done Cats

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Speaker 1: from most of his performances, like he actually can hit

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift can't do cats and she did not have

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Speaker 1: what it took to in fact deliver on that performance.

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Speaker 1: And Taylor would not do Broke Back Mountain because then

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Speaker 1: it would not be a gay story. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: no sense. That's just every other there's nothing about the

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Speaker 1: comparison is correct. And then everyone was like replying like

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Speaker 1: the guy the original poster I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: remember if it was a guy or what gender the

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Speaker 1: original poster was, but was like, I said what I said,

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Speaker 1: and people were like, you're crazy for this one. You know, George,

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Speaker 1: when you started this zoom, your eyes were so puffy.

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Speaker 1: You were like, I'm hungover. You were having trouble just

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Speaker 1: come to life. And I said, well, I'll believe it

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Speaker 1: that hangover has not softened that edge even one bit.

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Speaker 1: You are giving cultural critic, you are giving well. I

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at Taylor Swift. I'm mad at uh, well,

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? No, it makes sense. I really

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Speaker 1: Like it took me a while to forgive Lona del Rey,

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Speaker 1: of those narratives. But Taylor Swift is one. She's like

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Speaker 1: and I've even tried. I tried to forgive her during

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Speaker 1: Internity now Mine and forgiven forgiveness in this sense. Um,

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Speaker 1: I had a beef that was one side and it

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Speaker 1: that means that there's like that that thing needs to

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Speaker 1: forgave him and forgave load l Rey is like for

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Speaker 1: It's like it was a personal assault to you that

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Speaker 1: then you decided to forgive them for that. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to forgiving Taylor Swift, but today it's

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Speaker 1: not that day. Can I say something about Taylor Swift?

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Speaker 1: I just like, I'm sorry, and I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: like I'm sure there is some kind of unconscious bias

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fun that she was doing something different.

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Speaker 1: I like do that is the one or the problem

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Speaker 1: like um I did. There's one called I Did Something Bad,

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Speaker 1: genuinely afraid. Um. Yes, then down. I saw someone and

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Speaker 1: I respected, really taken down for expressing a very lukewarm

425
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: opinion about Taylor Swift yesterday, and it genuinely like kind

426
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Speaker 1: of made my chest see like tighten a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to watch. How did they get taken down?

428
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: They got taken down. I mean, I don't know why

429
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: he would say this publicly. That's that's I was like,

430
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: that's just a thought for the inside of your head.

431
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: But he's like, you know why is like Taylor Swift

432
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: grew up extremely wealthy and talks like she doesn't and

433
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: you can't say that. You cannot say that. Um, And

434
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: I just saw him be slowly by like Taylor Swift

435
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,239
Speaker 1: fans of all, like every conceivable kind of Taylor Swift fan,

436
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: the Taylor fifth Swift fans that are sixty five years old,

437
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: and his coworkers like, you know, just like people that

438
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect. And it was just a unanimous takedown.

439
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: And um, I don't know. I just I would never

440
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Speaker 1: I guess that that It is a big risk making

441
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: a public statement about Taylor Swift. Yeah, you have to

442
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: you you kind of learn over the years to um

443
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: not do that. And luckily, no one listens to podcasts,

444
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: so no one will hear these opinions. We're gonna it's

445
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a private link. You you'll have to like

446
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: email us to get the link to this episode. We

447
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: will screen you based on your opinion on Taylor Swift

448
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: before you're allowed to listen to the episode process, and

449
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: again before anyone comes from me. Once again, I've I've

450
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: streamed reputation many times. I genuinely listen to Taylor Swift often.

451
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: I would say I do too, Like it's not it's

452
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: not a it's not everything, but there are I think

453
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: there's something for everyone in her Ubra. I'll say that,

454
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just that this specific short film is not.

455
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: It's not for me, and that's okay, And one day

456
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: I will forgive her one day. I don't think we're

457
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: ready yet. I think forgiveness. Sam's version is a long

458
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: way away. Um okay, Wow, it's so funny. I love

459
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: them being gay podcasters and talking about Taylor Swift. It's

460
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: so classic. I know it's well, you know, you have

461
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: have to return to a classic, much like Taylor Swift

462
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: rerecorded her entire Album's really ten years ago. It's true.

463
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: I guess the only thing worse than that is recording

464
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: a podcast where you comment on it, yeah, for like

465
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: a half hour. It's like the only thing less original

466
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: than what Taylor Swift doing. Cots Wow, Um okay, first segment. Yeah, um, George,

467
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: will you explain what it is? You always you're so

468
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: talented at explaining what it is, and you adopt this

469
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: voice when you when you asked me to explain it

470
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: where you're like, George, please, daddy, he's explained, Daddy, explainly

471
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: what this segment is. It's like so like clinical Jamie.

472
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Speaker 1: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

473
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: we uh, I want to determine your Oh my god,

474
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm like unable to speak. Okay, there's too much pressure.

475
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Speaker 1: Our first second straight Our first segment is called straight Shooters,

476
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: and in this segment, we um, oh my god, come on, George.

477
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: You have to we explore your familiarity with and complicity

478
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: in straight culture by asking you a series of rapid

479
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: fire questions that are one thing or another thing, and

480
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: you just have to pick one of those two things.

481
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: And the one rule is you can't ask any follow

482
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: up questions about how it works. Okay, I'm ready, Okay, Sam,

483
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Um. My first one is a stretch, taking

484
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Speaker 1: astronomy or putting that ass on me. Mm hmmm, um,

485
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a stronomy. The Little Red Riding

486
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Speaker 1: hood for the Blue Man Group. Oh, the Little Red Riding.

487
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Speaker 1: That's I'm having an internal dialogue. Mm hmm I the

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Speaker 1: Blue Band Group, the Blue Man Group. Yeah, checks mix,

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Speaker 1: checks mix, text mix or using wicks to make a website?

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Speaker 1: What am I a? What? What was again? One more

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Speaker 1: time when we're time? Okay, checks mix, text mix or

492
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Speaker 1: using wicks to design your website? Um check? Okay, I'm

493
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Speaker 1: is I wonder is it is it straight to use

494
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Speaker 1: squarespace like where? Okay? Yeah, it's a tough one. It's

495
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Speaker 1: a tough one for that reason, is it? And is

496
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Speaker 1: it straight to use squares Does it change if you've

497
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Speaker 1: used a code right? No? I think that's true. My

498
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: instinct is that is more straight. Straight. That's straight if

499
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Speaker 1: you use code bang bang. If you use code bang bang,

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Speaker 1: that is straight. I would say checks mix of those three, okay,

501
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Mario kart or Maria Sharapova Mario Sharapova, okay, friend of

502
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Speaker 1: the pod or enemy of the state, easily enemy of

503
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Speaker 1: the state. Person Stewart's English accent as Princess Diana or

504
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga's Russian accent as Gorgonzola Gucci. This is genuinely

505
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: very hard Umm, I'm gonna go with with Lady Gaga,

506
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: but that was a very tight race. Yeah, um okay,

507
00:31:53,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Chronicle or the Chronicles of Narnia, Um,

508
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Speaker 1: the Chronicles of Darnia Emily Radikowski or Pixar's Ratitui pixarsi Pixar.

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Speaker 1: Was that the first one I got? Right? I know,

510
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Speaker 1: I think, Um, I think you've actually gotten all of

511
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: him right O. Good, Okay, I think you've got nine doves. Um. Wow,

512
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: that was an incredible performance. I feel like that really

513
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: snapped us out of Um. I know, I know the state.

514
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: It is a fuke state, and it's her fault. It is.

515
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I think we can hold her accountable for that. It is.

516
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: We have to hold her accountable. And I don't even

517
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: mentioning her. I'm like, I want to talk about her more.

518
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: I know we haven't. I know, well, you literally can't

519
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: talk about her more. We talked about her. We can't

520
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: can't talk about her more. I'm and this all started

521
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: because before we started recording, I delivered some gossip that

522
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: she was rude to someone we know. So take that

523
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: blind item. M. Yeah, I like that was fun gossip.

524
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: That was I love I love when someone acts out

525
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: a little bit in a way that makes them look dumb. Yes, agree, great. Um, wait, okay,

526
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: let's do a topic. Okay, let's row a topic. Jamie,

527
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Speaker 1: would you mind introducing the topic you brought forth to

528
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: the red Table today? And um, say a little bit

529
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: about what made you think of it? Okay. So the

530
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: topic that I and I feel like this ties into

531
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: the same like bizarro mindset that everyone's in right now

532
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: is I'm seeing another wave of people publicly announcing that

533
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: they're not going to be on social media for a while,

534
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: to the point that I have considered it, which is new. Um,

535
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: and so I feel like it is mostly straight people,

536
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: and in my like little in my feed, it's mostly

537
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: straight people with three hundred followers. And I want to

538
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: interrogate that idea of taking a break from social media,

539
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: making a really telling everyone why and grossly oversharing in

540
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the process and ultimately having it be for people you're

541
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: going to see anyways. Um, what what is that there?

542
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: And why do I want to do it? That's a

543
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: great question. This is a tough topic because I think

544
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: that like it is very true. I feel like the

545
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: reason maybe it's straight people doing it I feel like

546
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: being gay on social media has been lifted up in

547
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: such a way like social media is for the gays now,

548
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: and so when a straight person is like, well, I

549
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: can't get lifted up in that way, like I don't.

550
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: It's sort of like I don't want to play. I quit.

551
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Like if I can't win, I quit. Um, that's almost

552
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: how I see it. So you think people are taking

553
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: a break from social media because they're afraid of all

554
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: the gays. I think they're like, I don't, I'm tired

555
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: of pretending to be bisexual. And that's actually so true.

556
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: People are taking a break from social media because they're

557
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: tired of pretending to be bisexual. If I, yeah, if

558
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: you see me disappear from all social platforms in like

559
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: a burst of flame right before Bisexual Visibility Day, you'll

560
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: know why. Because I feel like I can't hang and

561
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: I can't, like I can't, I don't, I don't, I

562
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to this year. Um,

563
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. But and I'm not. I'm not even

564
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: like it's not even the act of taking a break

565
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: from social media, which I've am very supportive of and

566
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: probably should do more of. But it's the act of

567
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: telling people that you're doing it, Like that is the

568
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: thing that is like, well, then you're just medically addicted

569
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: to it. If you're so addicted that you have to

570
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: tell people like guys, I'm not going to be around

571
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: for a while, like I please don't like you know

572
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: fifty one fifty if I don't weigh in on the

573
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: red discourse. Um, yes, the yeah, I don't know. But

574
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: and yet I'm like it's like the the right thing

575
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: to do there is just to like not post anything

576
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, right, like I don't know, well,

577
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: it's almost it's like to post that you're leaving social

578
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: media is so leaning into the worst elements of social media,

579
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: like the narcissism and kind of like main character syndrome

580
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: to use a phrase for the Internet is like at

581
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: its peak when you think people want to know that

582
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: you're taking a break from social media, Like so at

583
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: that point you're too far gone, like if you're actually

584
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: taking a break and then the entire time thinking like, wow,

585
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm taking a break or I also really like the

586
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: post where when sometimes people do I feel like this

587
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: is more of like people with like big influencery followings

588
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: that they do where they will just they will disappear

589
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: for a while and then they'll come back with a

590
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: bunch of pictures of like grass and post about what

591
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: they learned during the break. And I I those posts,

592
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I think are much better and funnier to me is

593
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: the return of Like I went to Montana. I looked

594
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: at not one, not too but like three blades of

595
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: grass I like, and I touched them all, and I

596
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: realized that I don't believe in getting vaccinated. Like that's

597
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: the kind of pose that like incredible. And then it's

598
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: like and then while you were doing all of that,

599
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: you were documenting it for the purpose of creating content

600
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: out of your big realization. Does everyone's so sick and

601
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to me to watch the people or

602
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: to watch the ways that people are like performing not

603
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: being sick. Um yes, but wait, this is actually so

604
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: what you're pointing to is like so important, I think,

605
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: And I've noticed more and more of this performance of

606
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: like people trying to outdo themselves with how healthy they

607
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: are compared to everyone else. Like I feel like I

608
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: see a lot of stuff that's like, um god, that's

609
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: like that the tone is basically like, you guys are

610
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: being really weird about this one thing that everyone's talking about,

611
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: and like I'm the only person who's normal and not

612
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: participating in this. Yes, I was doing with Taylor Swift. Yeah,

613
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of take that tone sometimes it's

614
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: on the internet to it's tough. It's a trap. It

615
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: is a trap, and every out, Yeah, I guess it, well,

616
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: because the only way out is a way that would

617
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: not be documented, so you would not be able to

618
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: actually see that someone found a way out, right. Well.

619
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: It's also, yeah, social media, it's like like, yeah, I

620
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: don't like like I don't like money, Like I don't

621
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: like having to think about money all the time, and

622
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: yet I have to. Like social media is kind of

623
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: the same way. It's like even when you're opting out,

624
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: you're like still opting in by it being oppositional or something. Oh,

625
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yes, it's like an impossible

626
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: bargain because uh, suddenly you've made a political statement by

627
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: not tweeting. Yeah, right, right, which, then, depending on who

628
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: you talked to, is like either you're being complicit or

629
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: you are listening and learning, Like there's no it's it's

630
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: like you're in a in a in a trap. It's math.

631
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: It like becomes of it becomes mad, and I don't

632
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: want to do mad. It's like it's cat. I've like

633
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: I've recently like found myself saying like I don't know,

634
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: I've just been like saying ship recently and then later

635
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: being like did I even where did where did that

636
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: come from? Like what did I mean that? There? There

637
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I was like, yeah, I

638
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: don't I don't post like asked to my to the

639
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: grid anymore on Instagram. That phase of my life is over.

640
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: And then I did it a week later, and then

641
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: I like issued an apology over text and I was like,

642
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I was like, what is and what is that and

643
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: what's going on there? To post as to Maine again,

644
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: which as I was saying it to them, I was like,

645
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I mean this, but I guess I

646
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: better just continue the sentence and then to send a

647
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: paragraph to them to be like look, wait, sorright, who

648
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: did you apologize the person that I told I don't

649
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: posing ever? You have? I see you hadn't publicly said

650
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: you don't post ask tomate anymore. No, No, and I

651
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: can't say that because you can't because I commit to that.

652
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: That would be I will have I'll like wake up

653
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: and drink like two drops of Chobonni coffee and do

654
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: it like coffee, I think getting I have it with you,

655
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: like it looks like spawn Chobannie coffee. I've never heard

656
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: of this. I didn't even know Chobani main coffee. I

657
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: know them as more of a yogurt brand. Yeah, they're

658
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: famously a yogurt brand, but they're pivoting into uh coffee,

659
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: which I think is I don't I don't know if

660
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: that's I don't know. I was skeptical of it, but

661
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: it is coffee. Yeah, I could, and you you like it,

662
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: you like seek it out on purpose. Um, it's just

663
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: like the yeah I do. I do it almost. It

664
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: was like put upon her and I was like, well, wait,

665
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: but you you buy this? Correct? Feel like No, the

666
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: store closest to me has like that, like what is

667
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: that like curvy jug but it has like creamer in it,

668
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: and I don't like that. You have to get the

669
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Chobani cop I don't like whatever that is. That's nasty

670
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: to me. So it's it has to be the Chobani coffee. Wow,

671
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: I have three drops of it, and then I start

672
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: taking pictures of my ass. I didn't even Essentially, I

673
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: don't think of you as someone who posts asked to

674
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Maine me either. I was gonna say this a little phase.

675
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: I went to a little phase and I feel self

676
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: conscious about it still. Well, you know what, though, I'm

677
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like the ideal thing is like

678
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: you can post asked to Maine and get the get

679
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of a nice reaction out of that. But also

680
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: because you're overwhelming output is not asked to Maine, people

681
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: still think you of you as an intellectual. I just

682
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: want to have a little intellectual asked to Maine every

683
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: once in a while. But if you do too many,

684
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: like text Bass posted a row, I feel like people

685
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: are like you gotta so you'd have to just like

686
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: go hard in the other direction. Anyways, what I'm describing

687
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: here is like the exact reason that I should log

688
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: out of all of my accounts and never return. But

689
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: you know what, though, I think you're pointing to something interesting,

690
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: which is like the binary of Basically the two kinds

691
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: of posts are text and ass and it actually doesn't

692
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: even matter what the text says. But I think social

693
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: media use is a calculation of and actually, you know,

694
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: bear with me for a second, I think even asked

695
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: doesn't actually imply ass It just implies like a post

696
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: whose spiritual, whose vibe is asked? Like there can be

697
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: a text based post that's basically asked, and there can

698
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: be a photograph that's basically text. It's just like a

699
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: post can either be text or asked. And the way

700
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: the bind of social media is that you can never

701
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: actually find the right balance of text to ask post.

702
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: This is a thesis paper. I think it's genius. I

703
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: and I feel like okay, and and going back to

704
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: the topic that I feel like a temporary farewell I'm

705
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: logging out for a while. Post can deliver on both

706
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: of those things, and kind of a rare way, because

707
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: you have to like post when you're when you're leaving

708
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: for a while, you've got to attach a picture. But

709
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: also the caption has to be eight years long, it

710
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: has to be a book. And I guess maybe you're

711
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: pointing to something. It's the ideal post. I guess delivers

712
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: on both text and asks right right, which And is

713
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: that why you're telling people that you're leaving because you're

714
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: going to get like this unique validation out of it. Yes, yes, uh,

715
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: and I want that kind of validation. But I also

716
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: know that I will not successfully log out. And that's

717
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: and that's fun too when someone makes the post and

718
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: then they're back one days later being like I learned

719
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: so much anyways, Yeah, like Christie Teagan exactly, classic, a

720
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: classic example. I'm a classical on the internet. Have you

721
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: guys ever tried to break? Yes? What was your break? Yeah?

722
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean genuinely, when you take a break, you feel better.

723
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 1: It's just like science. Like every time I've ever taken

724
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: a break from social media, I felt so much better.

725
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I've read way more, I've like I felt better just

726
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. Yeah, there's just no question.

727
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: Did you when you came back, did you feel healthier?

728
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have a healthier approach or

729
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: did it like immediately go back to how it was? Um,

730
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I would say maybe within the span of like three

731
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: days and went back to what it was. That's a

732
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: pretty good three days. Though you've never taken a break,

733
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: I've never taken a break. I've yeah, Um, I just

734
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: feel I've I think I have an almost healthy relationship

735
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: with you. I think you have a more healthy relationship

736
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: that Twitter drives me a little crazy sometimes just seeing

737
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: like opinions, opinions, opinions, especially when they start to feel

738
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: like insincere and like everyone's just like repeating the same phrases,

739
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: I really like start to go insane. Well, then you

740
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: also find your well maybe I don't know, maybe you're

741
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: better at this than I am, but like I find

742
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: myself then becoming that person. I'm like, Okay, I'm basically

743
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: just talking in like dumb Twitter language and making the

744
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: most predictable jokes or or even worse, make the most

745
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: predictable like contrarian statements where I'm like trying to, you know,

746
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: prove that I have some kind of original opinion about

747
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: something that doesn't matter. When I am tear drops on

748
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: your guitar? Is the last time you're ever going to

749
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: hear from Taylor Swift? Mean, yes, yeah, it's so interesting

750
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: that you Yeah anyway, go on, Oh no, I was

751
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of when I'm because I guess

752
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm self conscious and I said I was had a

753
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: healthier proachs media because I don't want that to be

754
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I think based on you know, compared to many people

755
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: you know. But I think when I post, that's when

756
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: I get crazy, like because I'll post something and then

757
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: I'll like really care about the response in a way

758
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: that's like extremely dumb. It's like it doesn't matter, just liked.

759
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I sall post bad stuff on purpose to like try

760
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: to shake myself of caring about the response. But then

761
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: I'll post like something that means something, and I'll be

762
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: like hurt when it's like not getting what I feel

763
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: like it should or something in that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

764
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: when you feel like you're I don't know, something you

765
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: actually care about underperforms and you're like, oh well, okay,

766
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: like let's walk into traffic about that. Yeah, I guess

767
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: I suck awesome. I had the times that i've I've

768
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: never I've taken short, like a couple of days that

769
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: felt much longer. Um, And I've never made the post.

770
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: I've written the post, but I've never made the post

771
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: out taking a little break. Um. I feel like sometimes

772
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: writing it out does sell you the fact that it

773
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: is inherently a very like a confusing thing to do

774
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: unless you're really going to commit to it. And even so,

775
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: maybe still confusing. But anyways, Uh, yeah, I found like

776
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: when I came back after a break, it like it

777
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: went back to normal very quickly, and it like for

778
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: the first day or so, it felt like worse. Like

779
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: I was like, it's like hit orders, Yes, that's actually

780
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: so true. Now I'm remembering that feeling that you're describing.

781
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: It's like, because you know, you see with fresh eyes

782
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: how unnatural the whole experiences. Like when you're used to

783
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: having just normal face to face or phone or text

784
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: interactions with people like one on one, you forget just

785
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: how unnatural the feed experience is, Like, that's just not

786
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: how humans are meant to interact with one another. And

787
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: to be suddenly barted with like opinions of people you

788
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: don't care about or you don't agree with or whatever,

789
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: it's very jarring. Yeah, and then to feel like, oh,

790
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: in life has to be this way for some reason

791
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: so I could feel better returned to it. I don't know.

792
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: I like, it's if you're listening and you have like

793
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: made a post like this, I'm just like I have

794
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: interested in it. You have Wait, what I haven't made

795
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: multiple times? Wow? Bearing the lead vibes. I mean certainly

796
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: not in the last three years. But like during the

797
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: first wave of people doing that, I would it would

798
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: never be like overly earnest. But I don't know what

799
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: what what kind of pictures would you use? Um? Yeah, at,

800
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: please describe these posts? Are they still up? Oh god,

801
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: I actually remember to say one of them. And I

802
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: just wanted everyone to know. We know it's always weird

803
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: to talk about social media, that we sound insane, but

804
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: we're owning it. Yeah, you're talking about swift and we're

805
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: talking about social media. Like I'm just imagining an imaginary

806
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: listener listening to this and being like, oh god, these

807
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: people are have such like are so broken because they

808
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: like think social media everything. It's like, no, we actually

809
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: are like some of the most well balanced people out there.

810
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Um okay. I distinctly remember one time I posted the

811
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: it was back when people still used gifts and I

812
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: posted the gift of Nick Krall or actually no, it

813
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: was Jenny Slate and publicity saying it's time for me

814
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: to take a work, to take advice from your bangs

815
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: and grow, And that was like my parting word to

816
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: my public which of course at that point was like

817
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: two people classes. That's so it was a little wink. Yeah,

818
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: and then did you commit to it? That's fine. I've

819
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: probably left for a few months, a few months months.

820
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: What were you doing instead? Like reading books? Watching TV?

821
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: But you know, working on my relationships. That's really powerful.

822
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Um is um Lord's solar power? The ultimate um post

823
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: about not being on social media. That's a good question.

824
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, well, no, I think the ultimate post is

825
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: the book that that book you read, how to do Nothing.

826
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: That's true, talk about a book length asked post about

827
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: not being on zodo media. I read that book about

828
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: the Yeah, how you gotta look at birds like that?

829
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: That was a paraphrase, Now you sure? I mean the

830
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: main takeaway was just look at some birds are actually

831
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: much weirder than you think. So you read that book.

832
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I just remember you being so affected by that book

833
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: and that you never still never took a break. Yeah,

834
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: I really like that book. But yeah, like, um sort of,

835
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: I liked reading it. I don't. I don't care what

836
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: they were saying. No, I liked having read a book. Yeah,

837
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: sometimes that's enough. I like the sense of completion. Um No,

838
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: it was like I considered taking a break. But I

839
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: almost feel like the takeaway maybe I completely misinterpreted. I

840
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: feel like the takeaway was more like don't quit. Like

841
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: if you have to use it, you have to use it,

842
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: but like be aware of what it's doing to you,

843
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: and um try to. Yeah, yeah, it's hard. I don't.

844
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. And now maybe I'm like, maybe I'm

845
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: projecting at the people who are making the posts even

846
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: though it is insane. Okay, they're coming uh. I think

847
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: I think part of the reason I wouldn't ever commit

848
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: to making a post about how I'm not going to

849
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: post anymore is because I know I couldn't stick to

850
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: it also, but I think that's okay. So it's actually

851
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: funny that you say that, because now I'm remembering again

852
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: this was like years ago. I'm remembering actually thinking to myself,

853
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: what I'm doing is embarrassing, but it is the only

854
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: way I will stick to this is if there's a

855
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: public record of me having posted that I'm taking a break. Yeah.

856
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: That's because I remember being like, this is embarrassing, like

857
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: and it's not something I would want. If I saw

858
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: someone else to it, I would think it's embarrassing, But like,

859
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's even more embarrassing posting this and then

860
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: tweeting an hour later, like you know, um, in the

861
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: words of Sudie Green Short Guys eat Box, so you know,

862
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: it's even more embarrassing saying you're going to take a

863
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: break and then not posting and then just logging into

864
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: a different account that you have and looking at all

865
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: that is I have also done. Oh wow, that that hurts. Yeah,

866
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm just like really outing myself as a

867
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: very sick person, I feel, I mean, it really is,

868
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: like as much as you can kind of of I

869
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: feel like I at this point, I've read so much

870
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: about all these things, and I have so many theories

871
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: about like what it does to our brains, and like

872
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: I've spent we've all spent so much time thinking about it,

873
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: and we're not like just like blind automatons like logging

874
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: in every day and even still you're basically just recreating

875
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: the same behaviors as the people you imagine who don't

876
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: have this kind of self awareness. Like it's almost worse

877
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: to know exactly what all the flaws to the system

878
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: are and get still participated it. Also, every time I

879
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: try to read a book, it's about how social media

880
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: is hurting my brain. So I'm like well, what's even

881
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: the point of books at this time? That even the

882
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: point of books? I know, isn't it a shame? I

883
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: never isn't it a shame too? Like I don't read

884
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of nonfiction books, but like the idea of it,

885
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: you would sit down to read a book and then

886
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: the book would be about the experience of social media.

887
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: You're reading the book to get away from Yeah. I

888
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: feel that way when I watched TV sometimes when like

889
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: TV shows are about TV shows or entertainment, I'm like, oh,

890
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm bummed out now. I know we need more media

891
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: about just like farmers. Yes, please, God damn it. And

892
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm actually not even joking. I would love to actually

893
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: learn more about different kinds of people. Maybe some shows

894
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: that are not about people who work in entertainment or publishing.

895
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: You know, that would be really cool actually and something

896
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: no one has ever done. I can't even conceive of it. Yeah, yeah,

897
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: that would be really really interesting. This is George's You're

898
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: starting a program to give voices to farmers who want

899
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: to make TV show. I'm definitely the right person to

900
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: start that program. Starting you're starting an incubator. You're starting

901
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: an incubator specifically for farmers to get in writer's rooms,

902
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: and people are like, so, what, like is your personal

903
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: connection And I'm like, I don't know. I just like

904
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to see some better content out there. Honestly,

905
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: I was spite. I was just annoyed at my peers. Yeah,

906
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: Like I have no connection to farming. I'd not grow

907
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: up in a farm, Like, I just kind of I'm

908
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: sick of people that are like similar to me getting jobs.

909
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't even like farmers. They're weird. But

910
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm actually really elitist. But I guess I'm looking for

911
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: a button to this um conversation around well, can I say,

912
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: can I just ask one tiny thing? Is like I

913
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: want to go back a little bit to the idea

914
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: of all of this being straight, Like yeah, you know,

915
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: because allegedly that is the topic of our podcast. So like,

916
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: I guess there's there's certain earnestness to it that's straight.

917
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: There's a certain like I said, like kind of main

918
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: character syndrome type thing. M hmm, but maybe it's not.

919
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: It's a self help there's like a self help element

920
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: to it kind of m It's like there's also there's

921
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: an optimism to it that appears straight to me, that's like, yes, no,

922
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: you're that's actually exactly you hit the nail on the head.

923
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: There's something like almost dare I say, like bordering on

924
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: religious about like I will quit in a big way,

925
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: it will mean something, and then I will be good

926
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: from now on. And it's sort of like I feel

927
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: like queer people know that it's never going to get better. Yeah,

928
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: they're pessimistic in a different way. Right. Well, it's the

929
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: difference between like thinking one big decision will change everything,

930
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: rather than being like, I'm in this for good. How

931
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: do I minimize that? How do I like thrive despite yes,

932
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: the obstacles around me. Straight people always think they can

933
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: make one big change. I'm gonna move to Cincinnati, and

934
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: everything's going to be different. Wrong, wrong, Every problem will

935
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: follow you. It's gonna be worse probably. Yeah, you're living

936
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: in Yeah, you're gonna have to make all new friends. Yeah,

937
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: learn the roads a while. Yeah, the weather is different,

938
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: you have to buy new clothes. I think for me,

939
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: I associate it with straightness, partially just because it's something

940
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people, like a lot of

941
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: like straight friends I had growing up have have done

942
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: it over the years, but just like the mix of

943
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: like the kind of post that is both like extremely

944
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: self conscious but also somehow deeply condescending because it's we

945
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: didn't even get to that is like how those some

946
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: of those posts, the ones that are eight paragraphs long,

947
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: are like I'm gonna be so healthy so soon, and

948
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: you're and look at you reading this post, you're so sick.

949
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: Um so uh yeah. The lack of self awareness and

950
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: and also the condescension that actually does affect me when

951
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: I read it, is it rings straight to me? Yeah, well,

952
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: and going back to Sam's it's actually like very what

953
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: you're saying is like relevant to what Sam was saying

954
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: about religion, I feel because it's very much someone being

955
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: like I've accepted Jesus into my life, but I am

956
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: part of an interfaith group. Like it's okay if you're

957
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: a different religion, it's okay, Like I personally will be saved,

958
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: but that's just the journey I've chosen. Yeah, wow, it's religious.

959
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: It's religious, right, So I'm very I'm like happy you

960
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: chose this topic because the other one was Mike's hard lemonade,

961
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: and like what would that conversation offen you know, yeah,

962
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean that would be a juicy one. Literally, I

963
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: but I've honestly never had a mikesrd lemonade, So I'm

964
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: kind of glad we didn't talk about it, because oh

965
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: I have. They were actually actually like when I was younger,

966
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how I kind of thought the pinnacle

967
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: of a good alcoholic drink was one that was prepackaged,

968
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: like I loved a Boccardi breezer or a smeared off

969
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: ice Like I thought that was like, in my mind,

970
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: that was like the main form of alcohol. And then

971
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: if you wanted to all craft craft beer with it,

972
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: you can make your own drink. But yeah, my card

973
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: lemonade is disgusting and it tastes like cough medicine, but

974
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: it will get you so fucked up that you'll like

975
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: enter another half to cannon you just like leave the planet.

976
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean that, that's honestly a great sell. I kind

977
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: of want to try one. Um. I think we actually

978
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: did get to the bottom of it. I think so

979
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: too in a way that sorry we're genius is sorry.

980
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: We're proud of ourselves. We did it. We did what

981
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: we said, and that's how to do anything. And that's

982
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: a book. We should write a book? That would be

983
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: so so hard? Could it be? Honestly, it's really easy.

984
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: It isn't crazy how many people we know that have

985
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: written books. It's like sometimes and this is a toxic

986
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: trade of mind, and someone that we know writes a book,

987
01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you didn't. I know. It's also I

988
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: mean I can't even get into this, but sometimes we

989
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: do open those books and look inside and you're like, oh, like,

990
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: don't let anyone. Yeah, I not to out myself as

991
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: someone who's supposed to be writing a book at this

992
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: exactly time. But it's but they don't know that they

993
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: should let be letting me do it, you know, because

994
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: the podcast to book pipeline, also the comedian to book pipeline, Yes,

995
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: is illogical. It's a different it's a different skill for sure.

996
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the comedian do anything pipeline is misguided inherently.

997
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: I know it's interesting that you do. Yeah that, like

998
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: everyone is basically like the act of being a comedian

999
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: is just basically just like desperately kind of being a

1000
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: constant audition to do something else. It's like, please just

1001
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: let me do anything, Like I'll write all out like

1002
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: I host a host a musical. I don't care. Yeah,

1003
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like honest stage smashing, smashing symbols.

1004
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: You can see you can stop doing the job at

1005
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: some point, like love it. Um, let's to our final segment. Yeah,

1006
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: I can explain this one, okay, because because I didn't

1007
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: up the other time and there were too with pressure

1008
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: on me, I'm sorry, no, and that was my bad.

1009
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: Like you know, I just couldn't like think of words. Sure, sure, sure,

1010
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: um okay, Jamie. Our final segment it's called shoutouts in UM,

1011
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: an homage to one of the greatest elements of straight culture.

1012
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: We give sort of a radio shout out to anything

1013
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: that we are enjoying. Imagine it's two thousand one and

1014
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: you're at TRL and you're shouting back to your squad

1015
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: back home. UM, I actually do have one. I'll go first. Yeah, um, okay,

1016
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: what's up all you freaks and losers out there. I

1017
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to this one

1018
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: song called Only a Beer and by Donnie Crosswell. This

1019
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: is a gay country song that I am. I've been

1020
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: friends on Instagram with Donnie Crosswell since I talked about

1021
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: him being a psychopath. On Seek Treatment. I've never met

1022
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: in real life, but he is one of the weirdest

1023
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: guys I've ever known on Instagram, and he makes country music.

1024
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: And this track he put out is such a damn hit.

1025
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 1: I cannot stop listening to it, and I genuinely think

1026
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: you should all listen to it. Only a beer can

1027
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: Donnie Crosswell, one of the weirdest guys I've ever not

1028
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: met on Instagram. Who oh Sam, you should do like

1029
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: outram music. You should use that as outram music. I will,

1030
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: I will. It's a hit. Wow, I love I love

1031
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: a gay country who's that gay country musician who with

1032
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: the mask? Orville Peck Orville Peck, we stand, we stand?

1033
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 1: And Donnie you know, he's look he's doing it. He's

1034
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: like kind of doing it playfully, but it's it's really

1035
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really good. That funny. Maybe he should

1036
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: add with Taylor Swift for the next time she releases

1037
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: Read in ten more years. It would be huge. Um,

1038
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: all right, I'll go next. What's up, listeners, how's everybody doing.

1039
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: Let's face it, it's difficult out there, and that's why

1040
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to That's right,

1041
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: delicato squash. The other day I texted past guests of

1042
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: the pod and in fact, I'm now realizing friends of

1043
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Scamilashes Julia Claire, and I said, Julia, what vegetable is

1044
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: in season that I could roast real quick and just

1045
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: had a quick, delicious side and without missing a bait.

1046
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: This bitch goes delicato squash. So here I am putting

1047
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: on my little sweppants, getting out of the house and

1048
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: running all the way to the farmer's market. And I said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll take six, cut them all up into little pieces,

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Speaker 1: put them in the oven with just olive oil, maple syrup,

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01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, some Cayam pepper so they could get some

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: spice in there. Roast them for maybe twenty thirty minutes

1053
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: they come out. I'm just talking restaurant quality. You can

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: put some mint on them, you can put some some

1055
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: like crumbled fet on them. You can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell something, I am still eating them

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01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: and they are delicious. It is like candy. And because

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01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: they're vegetables are healthy and actually make you look more beautiful.

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: And so I want to give a shout out to

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Speaker 1: delicatta squash. Who Wow, vegetables make you look more beautiful.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Um, Jamie, whenever you're ready,

1062
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: feel free. I've really thought about this. I came prepared

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Speaker 1: for this segment. Oh my god. Okay, what's up, perverts?

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Speaker 1: Jamie here? And today I'd like to shut out my

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01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: favorite restaurant that no one knows it's still open, American

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01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: Girl Plays at the Grove. Did you know that you

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: can go to American Girl Plays at the Grove with

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: your friends as an adult? Did you know that you

1069
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: can get a three course meal for dollars and you

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01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: can drink alcohol and they won't cut you off. Did

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01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: you know you can go to American Girl Plays and

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: spend a very little amount of money. The servers are

1073
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: extremely nice and the only trade off is that you

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01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: have to sit next to a doll. They won't let

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01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: you not. They have you can borrow. They have a

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: whole wall of dirty dolls you can take and you

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01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: put them next to you. And if you don't have

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: a child, you still have to have a doll. And

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01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: and with this meal, at no extra cost to you,

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01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: they will also serve the dolls food. Uh. You can

1081
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: ask them to not do it, but they will do it.

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: It is policy, um, and there's never a line because

1083
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: everyone assumes that that restaurant closed twenty years ago. It didn't.

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01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: It's still open at at the Grove And I'm gonna

1085
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: I went last week and I'm going to go back. Wow,

1086
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: I had no idea there was an American Girl restaurant,

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01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: especially one that serves alcohol, right that the alcohol part,

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: I definitely did not know. But I'm thinking like I

1089
01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: had three mimosas at American Girl restaurant that. Did you

1090
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: go with friends? Is my question? I went with friends.

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01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: I went with two friends, the one who had been

1092
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: with me before and one who had not and really

1093
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: did not enjoy the did not like the pressure to

1094
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: have a doll, right, each person has to be accompanied

1095
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: by adult. It's not just one doll with each group. No,

1096
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: you can't. You know, you have to have your own,

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: your own, your own doll, your own dot it. Do

1098
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: you feel bad when you're there? Like do you feel

1099
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: like is it like is there pressure to be like

1100
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: feel bad? When? That's a loaded question, like at a

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: base level, of course, yes, I do feel really bad.

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01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: But you have to feel bad to go there. But

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01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 1: when you're but when you're there it feels good and

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: you can order Oh my gosh, you The best thing

1105
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: is that you you get to say, like I'll have

1106
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: this Sam at American Girl funny. And then I always

1107
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: think like who is the like who is the This

1108
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: is such a stupid question, like who is the chef there,

1109
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Like there's someone whose job is to be like the

1110
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: head American Girl plays American Girl plays, and they're like

1111
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: cooking up a halfway decent piece of salmon. It's nuts.

1112
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is breaking news. This is incredible.

1113
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: There are there's one and and I'm sure there's one

1114
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: in New York, probably like the one in New York.

1115
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: I've been. Um no, I don't. I don't think so.

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01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: I think it's like a little a little bit out

1117
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: of the way and it's like a really cheek block

1118
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: in the village patio seating. It's gorgeous. It's like Chloe

1119
01:08:54,880 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: seven years there, blood orange just for for me. It's

1120
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: usually like one birthday party and nothing else and yeah, wow,

1121
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: oh that's this is breaking news. I'm so glad you've

1122
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 1: shared that with us, um and thank you for doing

1123
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: this pod. This is an absolute delight. I loved Thanks

1124
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: for having me. We'll do a live show at the

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Speaker 1: American Girl Cafe. Yes, and we'll have you. They need

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01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: that's that would be my one notice that they need

1127
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: they need entertainment, Yeah, specifically live podcasting. Yeah, they need

1128
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: a live podcast show. Um wow, well is this goodbye?

1129
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: This is goodbye. I'm afraid okay bye. And there's only

1130
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: one thing that gets the job done. Imber never gets

1131
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: to kiss me, makes me cry like a baby after

1132
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: one glass? How text the next when I'm drink, rub

1133
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: my heads and the turn after Jagger bombs? How like

1134
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: you kind give me a better man? How real beer

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Speaker 1: tame