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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, I said yesterday on the show, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how the Niners are doing it with all their injuries.

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Speaker 1: And I also said yesterday on the show, you know

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Speaker 1: Mike Rable may win Coach of the Year. Right number

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Speaker 1: one seed, I said, what Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman

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Speaker 1: are doing with that offense? When you lose your two

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles, usually it's over. But the Chargers, now justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert had surgery, knocking to miss time. Here comes to

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Speaker 1: Marion Hampton back. They have the number two pass defense

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, number three total defense. The good news

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Speaker 1: is Herbert Hampton and Philadelphia's Wobbley a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh's now joining US live.

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Speaker 1: You know, it is interesting, Jim, because you are one

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Speaker 1: of these coaches that you create a toughness and a resilience.

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Speaker 1: I don't care If it's Stanford, I don't care. What's

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Speaker 1: San Diego, San Francisco, Michigan Chargers. First week of practice,

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Speaker 1: it feels different. I thought, when you lost both tackles,

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Speaker 1: I said, so over Keith, pro football can't win and

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Speaker 1: you're still running the football.

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Speaker 3: What is it? Give me the secrets.

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Speaker 1: How do you run the football when you're offensive lineman?

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Speaker 3: Your offensive line is missing two Pro Bowlers? How do

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Speaker 3: you do it?

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Speaker 4: Well? Good players, good players up front, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I thought our offensive line really, you know, have

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Speaker 5: one of its one of its best games this past week. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Jamari Saw, you really did a heck of a job

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Speaker 5: at left tackle. Zion Johnson played one of his best games.

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Speaker 5: Brad Boseman had one of his best game games. Kai

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Speaker 5: Beck then uh graded out over all all of our

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Speaker 4: Trey Pipkins had had a bunch of key blocks.

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Speaker 5: Our running backs really, uh, you know, did a phenomenal job, Kamanie,

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Speaker 5: but now, uh, Jared Patterson really, uh you know played

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Speaker 5: some of our best football. I just uh, And it's

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Speaker 5: those guys, they're the they're.

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Speaker 4: The tough tough men.

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Speaker 5: Plus faith uh and number ten Uh let's never forget.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 4: So he is playing the game now and ever, Yeah, Max.

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Speaker 1: Crosby and him, Max Crosby, you know, pushes him over.

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Speaker 3: Shoved him.

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Speaker 1: I love Max, okay, and Justin probably did a little

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Speaker 1: trash talk.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. Well really yeah, I mean, did

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Speaker 3: you did you try to talk a little in your

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Speaker 4: You know? I was?

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Speaker 5: I was, uh probably, I'm a lot like Justin. I'm

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Speaker 5: more of a counterpuncher, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 5: wasn't gonna get the first one in. I can promise

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Speaker 5: you that Max Max was Max gets uh, he's he's

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Speaker 5: quite good at trash talking himself. And uh Justin was

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Speaker 5: kind of counterpunching, like a like a Floyd Mayweather, like

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Speaker 6: Yeah that uh those two they have they have nothing

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Speaker 4: I love Justin, but uh yeah, and.

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Speaker 5: I like I like there are two greats and the

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Speaker 1: When you when you did, when you did have losses

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Speaker 1: to injuries, do you have to co differently psychologically? Do

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Speaker 1: you have to be more upbeat? I mean, you're very

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Speaker 1: very optimistic guy. You love football like nobody I have ever seen.

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Speaker 1: But when you have all these injuries, Jim, players can

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Speaker 1: the weather changes. Do you have to coach differently? Almost psychologically?

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Speaker 1: The speech is the motivation, the tactics. When you are

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a you know, next man up mentality,

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Speaker 4: It's emotional, it hurts, you know. Rashon Slater for.

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Speaker 5: a you know, there's uh yeah, what's what's next?

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Speaker 4: Who's the next man up?

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Speaker 5: And uh and you got a guy you know, sitting

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Speaker 5: there's two ways of two ways you.

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Speaker 5: And you know, when you kind of get your breath back,

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Speaker 5: here we go, let's let's attack it and uh next

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Speaker 1: You know, it's this a couple of weeks ago. Green

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Speaker 1: Bay's offense was broken and they solved it. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's offense a little they can't quite figure it out.

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Speaker 1: It happens. It's a long, long season, Jim. When when

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Speaker 1: you when you look at a team like Philadelphia, you're

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Speaker 1: pouring over the film and they just can't quite get

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Speaker 3: Have you ever been in those situations?

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever had even this year, you

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Speaker 1: just not working. How do you get Because Matt Lafleuror

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Speaker 1: When you do have these two game skids, when you're

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Speaker 3: What do you do? Is it usually schematics player's health?

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Speaker 3: How do you get out of it? Because Philly's in

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Speaker 4: It's h.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to get better at something, you know,

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Speaker 5: you just work a little bit harder at it.

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Speaker 4: So it's really it's really that.

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Speaker 5: That's the formula, you know, improvement, better today than yesterday,

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Speaker 5: better tomorrow than today. That that theory that improvement will

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Speaker 5: lead to success is how I see everybody, uh you know,

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Speaker 4: That they have. And I see that with the the.

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Speaker 5: Eagles, and let's remember they're they're they're leading their division,

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Speaker 5: they're they're nine and three, then the world champions, and

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Speaker 5: uh you know it's uh, you know, big challenge, big

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Speaker 5: of things that that it's a that there's emphasis on.

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Speaker 5: And uh, I know the Eagles are doing the exact

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Speaker 1: You know, Jim, when you came out of Michigan, you

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Speaker 1: had a little bit of an advantage because you had

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Speaker 1: recruited so many of the players you were going to draft.

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Speaker 1: You you, I mean a lot of those guys. So

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Speaker 1: you guys have hit on a lot of your draft picks.

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Speaker 1: And I and I said this, there is an advant

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Speaker 1: The one advantage for a college coach to go pro

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Speaker 1: is you know, you know the players. You're a recruit

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Speaker 1: them at high school. You know they're odometer, you know

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Speaker 1: their strengths and weakness. Is nobody's gonna fool you. You

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Speaker 1: have had some of your young players, I mean, Latin McConkey,

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Speaker 1: some of your young players have been I mean really

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Speaker 1: hit early. Did you think during your first couple of

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Speaker 1: I know these guys better than these other teams know

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Speaker 1: these guys because it looks like you did.

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Speaker 4: Man, look that way, No, that's that's not the case.

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Speaker 5: That's uh, that's Joe Hartiz that's our our personnel staff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and that's what they do every day.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's uh they uh you know I try

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Speaker 5: to I chip in there, you know where I can, but.

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Speaker 4: Uh no, I mean we all see the good players.

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Speaker 5: I mean you're really you can you watch the tape

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Speaker 5: and uh everybody can see the good players and and

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Speaker 5: then you realize, you know what they're gonna be playing

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Speaker 5: for somebody else because we only get one pick, you know,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, are you do?

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Speaker 5: You do the best you can when when it's your

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Speaker 5: you know, I have learned so much, uh just being

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Speaker 4: Chad Alexander's phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: He'll be a general manager, uh you know soon for

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Speaker 5: a for a smart team that's looking for uh you

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Speaker 5: know a guy that's that's great and uh and Louis

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Speaker 5: lou Clark, all the guys uh you know in our

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Speaker 5: that's uh, you know, years in the making and then

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Speaker 5: you know, it's it's uh, it's inspiring. I've learned a ton.

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Speaker 1: Last night I saw Jackson Dart was scrambling around. He

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Speaker 1: got a little cute in the sidelines and he just

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Speaker 1: got smoked.

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Speaker 3: It was bad.

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Speaker 1: He got smoked, and I said, if it was a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you're going for.

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Speaker 3: The winning drive. Okay.

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Speaker 1: You know, Justin takes a lot of hits. I think

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Speaker 1: his first year sometimes he tried to stand up a

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Speaker 1: linebacker and that I didn't like that at all. If

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Speaker 1: ever have to say to Justin, listen, I love that

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Speaker 1: you're a tough guy, because you'd be a little less tough,

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Speaker 1: could just slide. Do you ever have to just sit

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Speaker 1: him down, as a former quarterback, say Justin, I know

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Speaker 1: you're six five and two fifty.

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Speaker 3: These guys want to hurt you. Do you ever have

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Speaker 3: those conversations.

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Speaker 5: With uh, you know, not not too many, you know,

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Speaker 3: I got a little soft, Jim. I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 4: I'm not buying it. I'm not buying that. Tough the toughest,

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go Monday night football, Eagles. Good luck,

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Speaker 3: It's the hurd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 9: It's a great time to be a soccer fan.

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Speaker 8: On Friday, it all kicks off with the FIFA World

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Speaker 1: Think about this, we were talking about Mike Tomlin. People

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Speaker 1: That's almost nine years they have not so for people

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Speaker 1: This is the herdline.

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Speaker 8: News, all right, con let's start with the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 8: and J. J. McCarthy that he is expected to clear

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Speaker 8: Or Minnesota will probably be favored tomorrow. This time so interesting.

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Speaker 8: seven opponents Minnesota's face. Okay, Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Ravens, Bears, Packers, Seahawks.

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Speaker 8: They have one thing in common. They're all playoff teams.

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Speaker 8: Obviously they're not beating any of those teams, but Washington,

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Speaker 8: the overtime game, Max Effort, empty the tank and lose,

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Speaker 9: I think Minnesota's aside here for sure, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Are you buying this? Kevin O'Connell's job is on the line.

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Speaker 9: Is is he in trouble? I'm not believing that.

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Speaker 3: But don't buy it. He's a very It's like Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 1: The people in the league know Stefanski and Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 8: All right, Let's move on to the Penn State coaching search,

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Speaker 8: which is, you know, not on great now listen, mess

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Speaker 8: The sides have been in discussions, no deals signed yet.

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Speaker 8: BYU is playing in a conference championship game this weekend

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Speaker 1: There are discussions that James Franklin's powerful agent did not

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Speaker 9: Now that is spicy. I have not heard that anywhere.

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Speaker 8: I just don't know if this BYU coach will fit

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Speaker 9: He's staying.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a fan of firing James Franklin. It creates chaos.

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Speaker 8: My brother lives out there. We know a lot of

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Speaker 9: They got housed lost. Now, now this is not great. Okay.

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Speaker 8: So if you look at this video, Lebron's talking to

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Speaker 8: somebody on the Sun's bench.

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Speaker 9: It might have been Godwin. While he's doing that, play

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Speaker 9: is happening, and JJ Reddick is trying to call a

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Speaker 9: play for Lebron.

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Speaker 8: He's like, Bron, we're running this play, and Lebron's talking

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Speaker 8: to the Suns so he can't hear him. JJ Reddick

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Speaker 8: has to burn a time out and you see him

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Speaker 8: kind of shake his head, like, what are we doing Lebron?

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Speaker 8: Now he doesn't say that in the video, and the

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Speaker 8: Lakers were down twenty in the third quarter, but you

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Speaker 8: can see Reddick is not thrilled with this. Now people

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Speaker 8: are coming after Lebron right now. For last night's game,

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Speaker 8: he didn't play well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hurt, he said. He woke up and

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Speaker 1: felt stuff when you got old stuff breaks.

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Speaker 8: He also has like the NBA record for longest streak

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Speaker 8: of double digit scoring, and he was down bad in

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Speaker 8: like the third quarter with four points and starts chucking

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Speaker 8: in whatever.

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Speaker 9: I don't care about that. This though I don't think

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Speaker 9: that's a good look talking.

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Speaker 1: To the other bench while your team's calling up till

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning because I saw

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Speaker 1: that is that it's very interesting. So Lebron has never

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Speaker 1: clearly been the second best player on a team. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we said this in the offseason last year because

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Speaker 1: of Luca's weight and injuries, it depended on the Knight

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Speaker 1: who was better. I said, coming into this season, I

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Speaker 1: think you agreed. This will be the first time Lebron

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Speaker 1: was not only the second best player.

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Speaker 3: On a team.

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Speaker 1: But it's not close, Skinny. Luca is the best offensive

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Speaker 1: player in the world. So this is the first time

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Speaker 1: in Lebron's career he's not only the number one player,

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Speaker 1: he is not close to the number one player on

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Speaker 1: a team. That psychology is going to be interesting. That

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Speaker 1: movie he's doing is what you do when you're the.

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Speaker 9: Man out of a power in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not the man.

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Speaker 1: And there are nights because Austin Reeves is younger and

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Speaker 1: athletic lead his prime that he's going to come into

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Speaker 1: a game, have the hot hand and be healthier. So

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Speaker 1: this is a very interesting JJ. Reddick's a really smart guy.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of psychology here. I said, Lebron

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Speaker 1: came back the first game. He came back passing, passing

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Speaker 1: only seven shots, and everybody's like, oh, he's such a

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Speaker 1: team player. He is, But what's it going to be

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Speaker 1: like when Austin and Luca on any given night are

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Speaker 1: better and he settles for five shots? Is he going

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Speaker 1: to be okay with that?

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Speaker 9: So I went to that Clippers Lakers game and I

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Speaker 9: watched Lebron closely.

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Speaker 8: I'm just telling you, for the first seven minutes he

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Speaker 8: barely touched the ball. I know, he's basically going on.

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Speaker 9: You know, and it's like, wait, and now he ended

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Speaker 9: up with.

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Speaker 8: Good nat stats, but he's still finding his way. I

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Speaker 8: will say this small thing. Luca and Austin Reeves have

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Speaker 8: developed some kind of romance. I don't know, if you

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Speaker 8: see the postgame interviews, they're joking I've got more duns

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Speaker 8: than you, yep, and Austin and I don't want to

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Speaker 8: say Lebron's on the outs because he loves Austin Reeves

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Speaker 8: and obviously him and Luke are fine.

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Speaker 9: But there is a butt here.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The butt is there's a new ownership group. They're already

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Speaker 1: fire and Bus members Jeanie Buss and I love her.

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Speaker 1: She's great at what she did. But there was a

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Speaker 1: little fear dealing with Lebron. Right it was still Lebron

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Speaker 1: had sold a lot of tickets. There was loyalty. These

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Speaker 1: guys don't care. This ownership group, the Dodgers. They got

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Speaker 1: rid of Cody Bellinger, Trey Turner who just won the

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Speaker 1: batting crown, A Scott seeger Manny Machado. They know the

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Speaker 1: future of disfranchise is Luca one, JJ Riddick two and

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Speaker 1: probably Austin Reeves three because he's raw. Polinka's guy. Lebron's

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Speaker 1: four in the room now he is four, and I

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Speaker 1: think he knows it. And I think I'm being fair here.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard for him. You don't think it's

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Speaker 1: easy when you've been a twenty year alpha.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, now Colin elsewhere in the league. Giannis and the

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Speaker 9: Bucks loss last night. There's some social media activity around Yiannis. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying Lakers are fifteen and five.

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Speaker 8: Overreact, But let's just keep an eye on the Lakers

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Speaker 8: and the Bucks.

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Speaker 9: Just putting that out there, agree.

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Speaker 2: J McK with the news, Well, that's the news and

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Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by the herd line.

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Speaker 1: Ye, Lebron's a team player is great. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: if you you're an attorney to law firm and you're

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Speaker 1: the number one earner, the number one lawyer for twenty

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Speaker 1: seven years, suddenly you're number four really quickly. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to say, it's not number one salesperson forever.

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Speaker 3: Then you're four. Because these new owners.

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Speaker 1: Lucas the future, Reddick's number two, often's probably three, all right,

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Speaker 1: and Lebron, smart guy, rich Paul agent, he's four. And

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Speaker 1: this ownership group, they have raised the bar in the room.

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Speaker 1: The Athletic did a poll I Nov. It was last

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Speaker 1: year where they they had a poll all the GM's

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Speaker 1: anonymous poll who are the best front offices? Lakers didn't

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Speaker 1: get any first place votes. The Dodgers, where there's no

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Speaker 1: salary cap, so there's real animosity for the Dodgers in baseball.

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Speaker 1: They had double the first place votes in that same

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Speaker 1: pole in the Athletic anonymous gms and execs, and there's

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Speaker 1: people that resent the Dodgers having all that money nobody

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Speaker 1: resents because the CAP's different in the NBA. So I've said,

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Speaker 1: and my prediction was coming into this year, this would

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Speaker 1: be the first time Lebron is a mile from the

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Speaker 1: best player on a team. Like last year, there were

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Speaker 1: nights Luca was better, but Luca wasn't in great shape.

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Speaker 1: He was coming off an injury. There were halves and

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Speaker 1: quarters that Lebron was better.

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Speaker 3: That ain't the case.

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Speaker 1: Lucas a mile better now and Luca's the best offensive

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Speaker 1: player in the league. And also it's very human nature.

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Speaker 1: Luca is no dummy. Luca knows he and JJ Reddie

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Speaker 1: are the future, right like he knows he's an alpha.

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Speaker 1: And I think everybody in the room knows Austin Reeves

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Speaker 1: can give you twenty three on any given night. He's

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Speaker 1: in his prime. And he's not gonna be that expensive.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get Austin Reeves on a team friendly deal.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a different psychology with the Lakers right now.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Lebron's a bad guy. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's hard, you know. And and the Luca now can

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Speaker 1: beat people off the dribble, can finish at the rim,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do that last couple of years. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was his first year in the league. I think

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Speaker 1: he had twenty five dunks and I think last year

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Speaker 1: he had like one so he just it just it

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Speaker 1: wasn't it just and he was emotionally he got traded.

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Speaker 3: That was rough for him.

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Speaker 1: International players they just want to come over play for

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Speaker 1: one team, star ball head home in the summer. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's what that's what they want to do. So it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a very interesting I am

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Speaker 1: fascinated with ownership groups and front offices in sports because

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't talk about him. It's the guy,

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Speaker 1: rich guy wearing some glasses on a Sunday, you know,

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Speaker 1: upstairs in the suite, and you know, we know Robert

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Speaker 1: Kraft and Jerry Jones. But these owners for the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: are fairly low profile considering how powerful they are, and

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Speaker 1: they've let all sorts of really good players go. Trade

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Speaker 1: Turner is one of the best packer hitters in baseball,

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Speaker 1: and they had a tough decision to let them go.

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Speaker 1: And when they by the way, when they go big,

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Speaker 1: Yoshi Otawni, Freddie Freeman, Betts, when they go big, they

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Speaker 1: don't miss. So there is something brewing. I'm a believer

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Speaker 1: in this that you know, Jannis Yannis could very much

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Speaker 1: be in play. I really believe that.

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Speaker 3: Very much. In play.

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Speaker 1: And listen, we all know this Lebron's it's a me league,

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Speaker 1: not a wee league. He bailed on Dwayne Wade. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people think he bailed on a d and

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Speaker 1: knew that trade was coming.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. I kind of think that we'll

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Speaker 3: see them row

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Speaker 4: Six.