1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh, I see you? Why why and 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, let's 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: call Ding Dong, let's call jest is calling, And I 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: guess our guest today just heard that there was another 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: three time guests that had to swoop in and become 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: the first four time guests. You know, our guests will 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: always be breaking boundaries, making history. You know, he's the 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: first person to start at NBC sitcom premiering this fall, yes, 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: actually tomorrow tomorrow. It's premiering tomorrow, which is September nineteen, 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: the year of our Lord. I mean, he's the first 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: person to start on a show. What is what are 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: you doing? Are you? Are you mocking? You know I 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: was somebody making a light job. No, no, no, okay, 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: take all the humor out of this right now. I'm 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: very proud. Thank you take all the humor out of it. 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: And that's my job is to take all the humor 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: out of it. So I so thank you for meeting 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: me at my level. I would say that you, out 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: of the two of us, do bring the gravitas, well, 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: not the not the lack of humor. I've been listening 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: back to episodes and I'm like I'm avain. No, yeah, 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: I think that I that that that I've been vain, 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: But it's vain of me to listen back to all episodes. 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: But I've been listening to episodes, and your findings have 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: been I cannot make it through a cohesive sentence, a 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: coherent sense. I couldn't even do that. I said cohesive 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: instead of coherent. I'm stupid, bitch. First of all, you 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and I both know and all the listeners know that 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: you absolutely know the difference between cohesive and coherent. Just then, 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: when I was mid sentence, I did not know, and 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: I had to backtrack and correct myself. Oh it was terrible. 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: I was so embarrassed. You don't enjoy listening to yourself back. 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: It's just I really have to brace myself. And I'm like, God, 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: I sometimes sometimes the questions I'll ask trail off. I'm 35 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: really trying to get into this, get to this place 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: of true self self critical stuff, you know, And I 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: can see I can't even it's early, but we're recording early. 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: This is right, And I just want to say that 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: it's one of the great thrills of my life to 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: listen back to myself on this podcast and I'm so 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: proud I think everything that I say and everything that 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: I do. I'm just like, I'm so to be honest myself. 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: You're being sarcastic, but you should be listened back to you. 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I was like, Oh, Matt, Thank God for Matt. 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: Matt is truly like hitting all the right marks conversationally. 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, Well, that's kind of you to say. I 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: feel that I'd be nothing without you. Bitch. Uh, we 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: can we do? We can? I'm sorry? Can we talk 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: about how early it is? Yeah, it's I am which 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: it's early. Can I say something? It's early because we're 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: New York trash but in Los Angeles, which is I know, 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: a boring topic. People will be up at seven thirty 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: eight eight. Things like that, fully, things like that, things 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: like that, the coquettish slug. Did you want to comment 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: on my outfit? Matt Rodgers is currently wearing the vintage 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: first edition limited edition that we do have plenty of. 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: There's about a thousand shirts of this kind sitting on 58 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: the shelf and Forever Dog New York, but you are 59 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: wearing the original I don't think so, honey shirt. You 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: know we should do with those shirts? Get a T 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: shirt cannon and shoot them at people. That's what I 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: want to do. Oh, but then that makes them feel 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: too disposable. I disagree. I think I think that, well, 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: they are disposable look at them, I know, but I'm saying, 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: like one day that will be a collector's item for 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: four people. You think they'll be like Spice Girls dolls. 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: They'll be like Princess Diana beanie babies, although at the 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: time they were. The Princess Diana beanie babies were always 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: always Here's a question, luxury, what can you actually sell 70 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: the Princess Princess Dianna Bani babies for now anything thousands 71 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: of dollars? Thousands? Well, then I'm sitting on a thousands 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: of dollars because guests, who owns a Princess DIABEI baby, 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: the one with the Irish shamrock? You is that what 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: you um? And well, I do have one, and I 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: have the I have the white one with the shamrock, 76 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I have the peace bear. I have the Princess Diana baby. 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Peace Bear feels so you could piece bear everyone has. 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: But I'm speaking of someone who whose parents we're like 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: my sister name begged to buy beanie babies as kids, 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: and my parents were like, what the fuck? No little 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: animals stuffed animals to put on your I think we 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: went to an open house once when we were when 83 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: we were trying to find a house in America. We 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: went into one and this kid had a room that 85 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: was literally hundreds of beanie babies on their bed and okay, 86 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: oh got it. So we went into your bedroom. But 87 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: Yang and I were like, this is the this is amazing. 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: We want this. And my parents were like, just saw 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: this pile of small stuffed animals and they were like, 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: absolutely not. That is not what your life is going 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: to be. Like. Well, I was allowed to have many 92 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: hundreds of meanie babies and had many hundreds of beanie babies, 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: and I were you allowed to have like Pokemon Ship 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: was a lot to have Pokemon Ship. We have Barbie dolls. Um, 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Barbie dolls not that many, Yang, I mean only Yang 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: could buy them. I couldn't ask for them. Um. But 97 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: right of course we talked about the Aladdin Barbie doll. 98 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Right of course, just a true sexual awakening and young age, 99 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: can I ask you do you know? Here's a quiz 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: for you before we bring our guests what was at 101 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: the time, what were they saying was going to be 102 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: the in sync doll to accumulate the most value of 103 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: five in sync Barbie dolls. They said one of them 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: would accumulate the most value. And that was the hardest 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: one to get quote unquote, it was I think it's 106 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: either your lance er j C. It was Lance Lance 107 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: and which spicecrawl? Was it posh? It was Jerry? Oh yeah, 108 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: that makes sense, Union Jack Dress. Yes. And of course 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: then there you go, iconic, iconic, speaking of iconic, speaking 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: of iconic history, making boundary breaking, you know, first four 111 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: time guest, and honestly, who else would it have been? 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: Truly no one else, Truly no one else. This is 113 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: because no one else would have the audacity to say 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the first four time guests. And 115 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: it's that kind of audacity that shakes up the industry 116 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: and changes lives. You know, we just spent a gorgeous 117 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: few days with this person on Fire Island. Let's we 118 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: we gotta bring him into this conversation to recap. We're 119 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: not going to do any recapping off the top by ourselves, no, 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: but we should say one of the stars of NBC's 121 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: upcoming show Sunnyside Thursdays and NBCNBC. He just finished we're 122 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: recording this in August, early August. He just finished taping 123 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: a stand up our very sick boy and God. He 124 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: truly is a judy, historic prehistoric judy, historic prehistoric judy. Everyone, 125 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: please welcome into your ears, the iconic, sexually viable, the fertile, um, 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: the um, the standing. Joe came boister. I gotta tell 127 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: you I have nothing um right off the top, I 128 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: have nothing interesting to say. I was watching over here 129 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: and I said, what am I doing? What am I doing? 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: It's not even been a year. I have not learned 131 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: anything since the last time. Truly, my mind is a 132 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: fucking clean surface. I felt the whole time. Yesterday, laying 133 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: in my bed, I was like, we're all just playing 134 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: chicken about who's going to cancel this first? Because I 135 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: was like I was waiting. I was waiting for one 136 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: of you to be like, Joel, it's too early. Unless 137 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: you have something important to fucking say, we're not doing this. Literally, 138 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: do you want to know something? This morning? I got 139 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: up at seven am and it was like check, No. 140 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: I would have been so mad. Actually, literally, I literally 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: in my mind's eye. But first of all, it is 142 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: not that early in the grand same. So I was 143 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: up till three last night working. Why are you making 144 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: that problem? That's up to you, that's up to me. 145 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: What were you doing before that, being on a grinder 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: talking talking about grinder, talking to man on man on grinder. No, 147 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: here's the thing, um, is that we were on Fire Island. 148 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm sitting by the Joel and I are sitting at 149 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: the dock watching the sunset, truly my favorite, no stop, 150 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: anyone can do it if you pay. Not everyone's that privilege. 151 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: And you pay the nine dollar one way and and 152 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: and that's it and and the L I R sunset 153 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: is free, sunsets free, and the sunsets my number one 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: top favorite part of the whole trip every year. Um. 155 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: But we're on the docks and Joel goes, oh, come 156 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: record this week. I was like, okay. And it was 157 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: as simple as that anyway for anyone else but Jroel. 158 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: We have been like absolutely not, can we Let's let's 159 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: roll back? Because I said should we record this week? 160 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: It was not a command, It was a very heavy 161 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: suggestion that as as three best friends, we were like, yes, 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: of course, of course you can come record Joel, what 163 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: have you Okay, you've you've had to have learned something 164 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: since our star is born upisode. Please listen back to 165 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: why did you do that to me? Are extensive deep 166 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: dive into stars. I've learned a few things. I have 167 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: learned a few things. I also have a lot of 168 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: notes because my god, I know I listened to this. 169 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: I listened to this podcast. I listened to this podcast 170 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: week in week. Thank you are loyal fans. But recently 171 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: you sent us a text the Betty Gilpin episode. You said, 172 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: what did you say the Betty Guilpin episode is exemplary? 173 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Or do you what did you say? First class? World class, 174 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: world class? So that was a high compliment you're about 175 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: to notice down. No, I'm gonna say I'm gonna talk 176 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: a little bit about what you were talking about in 177 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: the intro. Though. About you, I will say that UM, 178 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: I was actually was trying to formulate this in an 179 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: interesting way like online recently because I was listening to 180 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: you guys, and I was listening to Nympho It's so 181 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: so good, it's funny podcast. But both THETA and you, 182 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: I think have really UM found a way to make 183 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: being the straight man funny. Oh my god, really interesting way. 184 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: And I noticed it about because like Matt is a clown, 185 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: you are comedia. That's fine. This face is made for 186 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: paint Comediasla tie bitch, catch me in Florence, how And 187 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I think part of it is the big mask. Exactly 188 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: what face has a long nose and people laugh at 189 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: it when I perform so matts comedia. But I think 190 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: it's just sometimes you ask the right question, oh and that, 191 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: and it's it makes me laugh sometimes when you interrogate 192 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: his nonsense. Um, and it's this, and I think it's 193 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: very much the same on that other part. But listening 194 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: this to be compared to Theda Hamilt is true genius. 195 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: So I don't think data would. I think it's probably 196 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: an insult to theta. But to me, that's that's the 197 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: highest complement. And for you, for me, for you to 198 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: be down here talking now, I'm here. Now, I'm here, Matt, 199 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: if New York is the fifth lady of sex in 200 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: the city, am i am the fifth lady. I've been 201 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: sitting silent for months and months and months to hear 202 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: you say things like you l a gains those it's 203 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: really driving around in my car, driving around. That's right, 204 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: I said it. I drive a very l A to 205 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: hear you say those LA gays, and also to hear 206 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: you to hear you bring up Star Star Actress game 207 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: and not say credit. It's Joel kim Booster's game. Joel 208 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: Kimboster inventage. I created the game while we were watching 209 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. Yeah like you you actually you act like 210 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: you're better than the game. You act like you wouldn't play, 211 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: ever initiate, never initiate victim. I'm telling you Yang is 212 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: a public victim, his victim because you get this podcast on. 213 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I can't do a sentence. And these l A gates 214 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: always playing games put me on the spot for everything 215 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: to say is not being put on the spot, being 216 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: put on the spot now, bitch um, I don't reject 217 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: all of this gone to say. I just need I 218 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: just need less aggression from you while I'm driving around 219 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: in my car train to spend time with my friends. 220 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: Aggression directed that is, Oh, that's directed out of a 221 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: fine you know what, it's because he I'm insecure. If 222 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: that you want to be you desperately, I feel would 223 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: like to have more of a familiar arity with the 224 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: West Coast and you. This is what I used to do. 225 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I used to always say, funk that funk, that funk 226 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: that everything going on over there because I'm not a 227 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: part of it. We do not. We do it every 228 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: episode on the show. I do not. Now. I love 229 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: both equally, both my children New York City and Los Angeles, California. Okay, 230 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: but what's what's your assessment of me? You're you're about 231 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: I'm saying no, I wasn't about to drag you. I 232 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: was saying that if you played the game where you 233 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: would know it's not me and we actually celebrate all 234 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: the actresses in the game. That works for her. Not 235 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: being a star is not an intrinsically negative things can't 236 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: be stars. Some people can't be stars. You're right, I mean, 237 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: I think and then and many times they're still good actresses. 238 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: That's fine. We we I mean. The hard part of 239 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: this game is for people who are neither right or yeah, 240 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: that we don't touch. I think the thing is, though, 241 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: is that most of the people that we'd be talking 242 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: about have to be one of the to be one 243 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: of the other front of our eyes and to be 244 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: one to be either or both is the highest compliment, 245 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: and you know what has to happen. Now we have 246 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: to play. I was going to say, we have to 247 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: just everyone we've gotten. I've gotten a lot of text tweets, 248 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: dms like saying like this has started the corpse, like this, 249 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: I'm playing this game with my friends now and truly 250 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: it's like friendships are being broken. It's gonna start a 251 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: topic and we have to credit this correctly at Joel 252 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: can Booster invented this game? In this terrible it's going 253 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: to happen h SPT Hot Senior Producer Tracy is going 254 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: to say names of famous iconic quote unquote actresses, but 255 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: we can't say we can't remove the quotes yet because 256 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: we don't know. We haven't yet played there. And now 257 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: this is going to be the definitive decisions about them 258 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: because there are three of us and famously there's going 259 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: to be a majority of two yes and maybe even 260 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: a full sweep, full sweep, but we have to say 261 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: star or actress. This is the game, Star ar actress 262 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: HSPT shout out a name star and actor. I would 263 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: say absolutely has the gravitas on screen, and you can't 264 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: say she doesn't have the chops that woman can shake 265 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: with anxiety, like no, no, no one else Where did 266 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: you go? Bernard? Where did you go? Richard Link later 267 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: directing book. Can you know? I just said that she 268 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: performs anxiety better than anyone else. But you know who 269 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: I think might perform anxiety just as Julianne. No, I 270 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: was gonna say Clarid Danes Claire can perform mania. Yeah, 271 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: And I never say I'm going to go out on 272 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: a limit just as a gimme actor. I'm actually, I'm 273 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: actually gonna note like I'm not like, I'm not like 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: whipping around on the street because I passed Clarid Danes, 275 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I am watching Homeland. 276 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: He's eating an apple. Um. I did watch home And 277 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: for the first like three seasons and then it got 278 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: too much for me, right but um, thank you. She's both. 279 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: She's both because she has the real power on screen 280 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: and when anyone is willing to get on stage in 281 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: Christ not from her nose. And I think like she's 282 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: she elevates everything she does. She can do the big highbrow, 283 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: low brow. She was in Suicide Squad. Oh my god, 284 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: it's a badass. And ate a steak that when you 285 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: want to watch someone eat a steak. That's a sign 286 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: you wanted to be someone who has done August Wilson exactly. 287 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: They have to understand what the steak actually means, you 288 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's the pain that has gone 289 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: into that has paved the way to the steak. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay, 290 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Well I haven't seen I haven't. I'm going to say star, 291 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: not actor. I have to reveal. She's so good on 292 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: The Handmaid's Tale that you have, she's you can't go 293 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: away from that show. Say she doesn't have acting talent. Yeah, okay, um, 294 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: I think she hasn't. But here's the thing. I have 295 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: no doubt that she's a fantastic actor actress. I think 296 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: she has not broken out in a big way in 297 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: a way that the gays or you know, the collective 298 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: audience wants her to. For her to be like considered 299 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: a capitalist star, I don't think we've seen enough. That's 300 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm I guess I the reason I 301 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: pass I'm presenting her as a star is because she's 302 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: so like I'm watching her and I can't stop watching her. 303 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's because she's great. But you're 304 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: saying not actress, You're saying both. I'm saying star not 305 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: actor because I'm like, what is going on here? I'm 306 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: in I want to know more, but not because she's 307 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: doing the work, you know, just because you want to 308 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: see her from whatever what happens to her in the 309 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: head Man still something terrible happens to her. A lot 310 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: of terrible things happen to her, but she she's still there. 311 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: Um But I will say for me, and it's the 312 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: same in Gilmore Girls. I think the same amount of 313 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: things happened to her and Gilmore Girls, She's still You 314 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: can't say she's not still there at the end. Both 315 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: of them are. But the fact of the matter is, 316 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: like I've never been like a Gilmore Girls like person. 317 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: You love Gilmore Girls seen it. I've seen the whole 318 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: series at least six or seven times through and the 319 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: middle like seasons two through six, probably like eleven times. 320 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: It used to be the box set of Gilmore Girls 321 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: used to be the most expensive thing I have, Yes, 322 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: like where there were hundreds of dollars. And Lauren Graham. 323 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: You think star and actress Lauren Graham maybe an actor 324 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: not a star, and she is like she is important 325 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: she's so important to you. I think she's so good. 326 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: And there was a time when I would used. I 327 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: used to seek out every weird movie that she was in, 328 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: watch it, and like watch every Ellen episode. She's like 329 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: frequent guests on Ellen and so charming on there. And 330 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: she won celebrity poker and she beat she beat the 331 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: older brother from uh Malcolm in the Middle, and he too, 332 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: he was taking it so seriously like it was her 333 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: and like, um, Sarah ru the only women were the 334 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: only women, and like Sarah, we got out pretty early, 335 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: and um, it was Chandler what's his face? Matthew Matthew Perry, 336 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: and then a couple other guys and like it came 337 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: down to Sarah Laura Graham and um, this guy from 338 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Malcolm in the Mid guy who got charged with sleeping 339 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: with and underage girl. Oh maybe just like it's his brother, 340 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: his brother, yeah, yeah, yeah, and his he's got like 341 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: his cap down in the sunglasses and he looks ridiculous. 342 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: And she won, and I just that's pretty cool though. 343 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: I love it, and and I love her because she's 344 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: like she went to theater school. She like acted for 345 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: little while when got back on her m f A 346 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: and then like did sitcoms and then you know, just 347 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: it's such a norm she's, yeah, she does musical theaters. 348 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: She then this is such a dumb I had to 349 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: google most likable celebrities for just for just just to 350 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: pitch out on you know, celebrities. And then um, she is, 351 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: like she shows up in every last I'm like, that's 352 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: so interesting. Well, people that love Gilmore, girls are like 353 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: fanatical about Gilmore. But she like but she's I guess 354 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: just just that she's like a charming person and like 355 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: everybody likes her and I love that and we love 356 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: that for her, love that. But but but not a star. 357 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Let's do another one. Okay, Elizabeth Moss, I would say 358 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Starr and actress and I And the reason the reason 359 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: I would know because you're not. Here's the thing you don't. 360 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: It's it's like Beyonce once said, okay, you know you're 361 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: that bit when you cause all this conversation. What conversation 362 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: though it sci? What are you saying, Joel is not 363 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: a star? Shut up, get out of here. She's not 364 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: your fourth time on the show. You learn nothing. I'm saying, 365 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Moss can't like I I did not conjure who 366 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: that even was immediately that makes you an outlier of 367 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: our time. No, no, no, no, here's the thing, Like, 368 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm happy we're having a disagreement, Elizabeth Moss. I don't 369 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: think it is yet in a place to lead a 370 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: rom com or like a superhero movie or like, you know, 371 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: like that doesn't make you a star. This is my 372 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: little I mean, it's my very basic litmus test. And 373 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: she's definitely an actress. Cannot she's not. She's not the 374 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: paper is not turned the you know, paper is not 375 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: turning blue or whatever. She is the kind of person 376 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: who can get signed onto a television project and it 377 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: gets made us instantly and people will always take a 378 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: note for me, that's a start. So what are you 379 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: saying that Jennifer Anderson is not a star? I think 380 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: she's a star and the next she's start. But I 381 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: just don't. I just she's not like she's the name 382 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: on everyone's lips is not. Elizabeth's not a star like 383 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: I know, So we have to define I'm realizing now 384 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: we might have to define stardom. That it's different for everybody, 385 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: and that's why the game is fine. But here my 386 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: litmus says and the reason we and the reason I 387 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: even like came to this game was because we saw Captain. 388 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: We saw Captain Marvelous, who is I think sort of 389 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: the epitome for me of an actor not a star. 390 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: Iconic problem is is because those Marvel movies, which I love, 391 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: you realize the people who anchor those movies, the good ones, 392 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: are all stars, and you need the stars. You need 393 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: that charisma to fill in the blanks because they're all 394 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: sort of like Sammy Sammy, a little bit like they're 395 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: all a little formula. Once you know now that we're 396 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: and like Robert Downey Jr. Star, Chris Evans star, you know, 397 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: like Chris uh star, but Scar Joe, they're all stars. 398 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: And then you watch Bree Larson and you're just sort 399 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: of like she's doing it and she had a harder 400 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: time because like her whole character is a cipher that 401 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: sort of the point she doesn't know her past or 402 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: anything like that. But like you, there was just not 403 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: that extra thing, sort of the sheen on top of 404 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: the performance that made you engage with that character. And 405 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: it was a good movie. I don't want to like 406 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: discount it was a good movie, but I think like 407 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: it's just like the difference you can kind of test 408 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: sure sure to me, she she, I really like Free Larson. 409 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: But to me, it's just like there's there's not a 410 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of um for Captain Marvel. I feel like I 411 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: need a little bit more like strength. Yeah. Well no, 412 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: here's the thing. You compare this, and I don't want 413 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: to be reductive and just be like, but it is 414 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: like these two major female lead superhero movies, you Wonder Woman. 415 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: Captain Marvel is a better structured movie, but in many 416 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: respects probably, but Wonder Woman is a movie I would 417 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: I would rather watch that again gal Gado star Star 418 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: but not but she pulls it up and like and 419 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: and she yeah, because like I think there's just something 420 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: about her presence on screen that, especially for something like 421 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: a superhero movie, Like if I'm going to watch Room, 422 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: you want Bree, you don't want Gut right, But if 423 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: I'm watching like a stupid action movie that needs like 424 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: sort of to feel like a compelling presence on screen 425 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: to take it to a place of interest, you need 426 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: got truly the correlator. The correllary to this is like 427 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: one of those actresses is an Oscar winner, like you 428 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: would rather see the non Oscar winner sort of lead 429 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: this like huge movie. I feel like I would prefer both. 430 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, but I get what you're saying about what 431 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: you if when it comes down to it, would you 432 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: prefer a star? I would prefer both, you see. Yeah, 433 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: But but I'm saying it's this is the thing. This 434 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: is the interesting question for me, and the answer cannot 435 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: be both. Which is more important? I mean, like, like 436 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: which would you which is more important? I think I 437 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: think you see amazing acting all the time, and I 438 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: think as gay men, we want actors do I want 439 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: to start primarily? So Okay, I again, I think this 440 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: this depends on what you're watching, Like if you're watching 441 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: the movie obsessed with Beyonce and Ali Larder, For me, 442 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: no one could do those roles better because they're both. 443 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: I think a Larder can be swapped out. I think 444 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: it's not just I love Ali Larder. Ali is only 445 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Ali could commit to that script like fucking if it 446 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: was like yeah, you're right, like just that nine whenever 447 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: it came out, like the actress, like the like actress 448 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: of that time who like met that very specific sliver 449 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: of criteria criteria like that was Ali honestly, this scene 450 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: where she's like, you said we would be together actually 451 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: like you said it, Derek, you said it and he 452 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: like never said it. But in her eyes you know 453 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: that she believes actress. What is Ali? Where is alot? 454 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Children have forgotten Ali Larder, who was iconic famously and 455 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: not only the Finalist Nation movies but also with the 456 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: series here. Um, but my last thing about Ali Larder 457 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: is um is wa Alie Warder was also in Lately Bland. Yeah. 458 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: Dave and I were just talking about this on Viriled. 459 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: We're saying, like that scene where she's like, um, I went, 460 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: I went, I went from A six to four and 461 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: that's great on the day of Hayworth's murder. Yeah kidding 462 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: what what? Oh? Starver Well and we had this in 463 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: interesting there can be You're not these are not static 464 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: like Laura during ten years ago we would have said actor, 465 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: not star. But now literally she was like I remember 466 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: talking about this and then last night I stumbled on 467 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: this video of her like talking about like all her roles. 468 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: She was like, not her and her fucking mom Mary? 469 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: What's her face? Yeah? Yeah, anyway, Um, Bruce Jarn's wise, 470 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure but they were both of them historic, 471 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: both of them nominated for for an Oscar the same 472 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: year for the movie that Rambling Rose Like wait, like 473 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: like a few years before Jurassic Park. It's like she 474 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: was she was always an actress and that's where she was. 475 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: She wasn't a star Dassic Park. I think we know 476 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: we made her a star recently. Community did the work 477 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: down there, and we said, we got some work to do. 478 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: She stepped into her startup obviously with big little lies, 479 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: and I think some would say enlightened. And also and also, 480 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: but here's the thing about Laura Dern in a movie, 481 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: In a movie like Jurassic Park, you actually need primarily 482 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: an actress because I because with Jurassic Park at the time, 483 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: you had that iconic scene where she sees the stars 484 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: for the real life for the first time, and the 485 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: wonder in her eyes, like the incredible you really believe 486 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: that her Sam Neil Jeff they all sell it in 487 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: a way that the c g I of these new 488 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: fucking movies could never say. She was saying in this 489 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: issue is like those raptors were real, like they were there, 490 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, because they made audio on amatronics, right, And 491 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: she was like like those peppeteers are genius, and she 492 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: was like, so as an actor, that's great. Like now 493 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: I was I wasn't looking at nothing. I was like, 494 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: she goes, she goes, she goes, she goes. I was 495 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: she goes. I was scared. I was terrified when we 496 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: were shooting. I mean, that's the thing is, it's like 497 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: you almost appreciate and like the fact that you're not 498 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: watching a full blown star because it would almost be distracting, 499 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: where it is like she's for us, for us, and 500 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: we get to we get to sit there and almost 501 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: be her and Sam Neil, who also like that great actor, 502 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: the only star in that movie. Is really the thing 503 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: is is I think here's another criteria I think we 504 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: just stumbled on is that with stars who are not actors, 505 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: you're sort of always aware. You're like, oh my god, 506 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm watching so and so and yes, and then an 507 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: actor you can sort of like you do sort of 508 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: forget about them, you know, and then a star and 509 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: an actor can sort of do both because like Julia Roberts, 510 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you're like sometimes you're watching Julia Roberts, You're like, 511 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm watching Julia Roberts. And sometimes but 512 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: then when she's Aaron Brockovitch, it's like, I'm kind of 513 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: not getting as much Julia robertson this, which is great 514 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: for me. Aaron Brockovich is the perfect example of a 515 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: star vehicle that allows them to show their acting because 516 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, this is a great movie. I 517 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: could watch it and and it's just such a perfect 518 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: match for her gifts so good. I think My best 519 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Friend's Wedding is one of the best round comes of 520 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: all time. I would absolutely agree. I love the ending 521 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a movie where there are it's like forty five minutes 522 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: too long, you don't understand the structure, but it is 523 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: so good and she is so good in it, and 524 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: it is unlike anything else. She's iconic in that movie. 525 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean. And also the character is this is how 526 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: you know someone like the start, because the character is like, 527 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: what is going on? Girl? Like, get over the villain. 528 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: She's the villain, she really is. She is the villain. 529 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: I think are apparent to Julia. I think someone who 530 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: is sort of Julia Roberts and Jason for me right 531 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: now is I would absolutely because you and amistone in 532 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: the Favorite Too, You're like always aware that it's emistone, 533 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: but like, what a great performance. And I'm actually a 534 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: La La Land apologist and thought that she deserved the 535 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Oscar for it. I have not revisited, but we saw 536 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: it together together, but we loved it. When we loved 537 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: saw we had no critical thoughts. But there was Trump, 538 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: which is stupid. I don't know that that thing about 539 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: everyone hating Land. It's like you guys like get mad 540 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: about real things. Um, I just want to do just 541 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Brockovich can't do that. That's what am I supposed 542 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: to check in every two seconds? Yes, it's called accountability. 543 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you, bitch, that's all you got, 544 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Lady to wrong And just such a good script, so 545 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: well directed, like the tone all the supporting characters feel 546 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: real M is absolutely Albert Finney, UM, so fucking good. 547 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: And she's she's like, that's like exactly what I want 548 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: to see out of a movie like that, or a 549 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: movie in general. It's just someone turning it. Yes, yes, um, 550 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: but the Laura during things sorry to go back to this. 551 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: She was like in David She was like multiple David 552 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Lynch films before and then in the eighties and nine, 553 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: like sucking blue and not eighties but like blue Velvet. 554 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I always trust an actress that a 555 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 1: director works with again and again and again, and I'm like, well, 556 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: obviously there's something that works here, Like for me, you 557 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: know who, I we you know who. There's I think 558 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the most iconic conversation around when it comes to this game. 559 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: And I think she's the most polarizing when it comes 560 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: to this Cha. Yes, I brought her up. I was 561 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: going to say, for me, the most polarizing I think, 562 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: especially in this group is Jennifer Lawrence. Let's starting out 563 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: an actor. I don't get it. Silver Linings Playbook, did 564 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: not did not get why she wants that Oscar to 565 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: be honest in retrospect, do not get it. I think 566 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: star and actress, I really do. I think that. I 567 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: think that here's the thing about Jennifer Lawrence, and this 568 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: is what we get down to, what exactly is makes 569 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: it makes us because I think that she has given 570 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: several iconic performances American Hustle, She's the only fun thing 571 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: about that movie, her and amy Um Silver Linings. It's 572 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: a weird performance and she's like not cast super well. 573 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: But the thing is, like you will remember it like you. 574 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: You remember that some of the scenes she's really really good. 575 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: Their chemistry is good, and when you watch it a 576 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: second time, it actually really works, even Hunger Games, and 577 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: then you don't forget about winners Bone, but forget about 578 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: Here's my problem though, I think, and this is my 579 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: resistance to Jennifer Lawrence. And I think it's always been 580 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: my resistance because remember, every game man was born into 581 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: this world of casting director and the rest is drag. 582 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: The rest is track. And I every game was born 583 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: to the world director and the rest is drag. I 584 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: those that slew of movies from Silver Linings through Joy 585 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: not right. It's not right. And I don't she's playing 586 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: characters that's way too old, and it was too soon 587 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: in the transition was so quick from Hunger Games where 588 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: she is a young girl to a young woman to 589 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: fucking Joy where she supposed to be in her like 590 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: forties the whole time. And it's so like, I can't. 591 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: It was so hard to watch those three movies where 592 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: she's playing these like these like middle roles and and 593 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: and that's and that's the other add frustration, as they 594 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: say there's no roles for women over forty in Hollywood. 595 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: It's just j Law has taken all. Yeah, it's really true. 596 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is I don't I 597 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: don't um. I don't hold her accountable for that. I 598 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: think that's like the Hollywood system wanting her and everything. 599 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's a testament to her talent that 600 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: despite the fact that she is so miscast, these things work. 601 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't find her. I didn't think she 602 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: transcended the miscasting though. That's my problems that I didn't 603 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: get old from her. And and but Matt just now 604 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: talking about like you were being a case for her 605 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: being an actress by saying, like, well, in Hunger Games 606 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: she's so you know, so convincing or compelling, and her 607 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: chemistry Bradley is so great and silver linings, but like 608 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: that's not that feels like stardom to me, doing doing 609 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: all the work. Well, here's what I'll say, And this 610 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: is a conversation about like the act dress of it all. 611 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: I think she's incredible and almost everything she does I 612 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: really do. But if she ever tried to do like 613 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: a British accent, I think I'd be offended. I think 614 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: I'd be really upset. I think I have to go away, 615 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: and like Red Sparrow, that kind of flapped because I 616 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: think I saw her Russian accent and I was like, see, 617 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it for myself. Whereas Emma 618 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Stone in the face, you would never know she wasn't British. 619 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: There you go. So you're just then you're protecting your 620 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: own perception of her. Then that's so bizarre. No, I'm 621 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: not protecting my own perception of her. I'm saying that 622 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: we have a conversation on our hands here about do 623 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: you have to be able to execute period work or 624 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: accident in order to be considered an actress. No, no, no, no, No. 625 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: One's saying that some people can't do it. Some people 626 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: just simply don't have an ear for accents. And I'm 627 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: so glad I'm not one of film. One of the 628 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: first things I started doing when I act was to 629 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: a perfect accents. And this is what I'm talking you 630 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: were doing. You were doing a huge Jackman impression on 631 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: the Jesse David Fox episode where it was the lay 632 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: Miss Future. You're doing a impression on him so bad, 633 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: singing amazing, it's amazing. But I can do a good 634 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: vocal impression of him do it from now on? That's good, 635 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: I thought, murmur through the lens of Jackman. Yes, from 636 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: now that's bad. Fact not be blinded by that. The 637 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: Greatest Showman is the movie I will watch. I will go. 638 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: I will if we're in the middle of landing on 639 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: the plane every single day, every single time I'm on 640 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: a plane and I'm like, I don't have time to 641 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: watch a full movie. We're going to be landing soon. 642 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: I guess I will go to the Greatest Woman and watch. 643 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: All the musical numbers came through Hugh Jackman, star actor both, 644 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: I think probably both for more he can do it all, 645 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: you can do it all, but more star than after 646 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I was super grady ground Yeah. 647 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: I guess we haven't really seen him in anything that 648 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: would test like Logan is probably the biggest acting challenges 649 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: he's had. I guess La Miss maybe counts, but that's 650 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: still so. He was fantastic in La He was. He 651 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: is a very good John alongside star and actress Anne 652 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. You watched devil Wares product again and you know, okay, 653 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: so you need Andy to be and so they're doing 654 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: like a musical version of it UM's Tub and and 655 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: what I was thinking when I was watching the movie, 656 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: I was I was like, I was a little worried 657 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: about the musical because like Me and Girls the musical, 658 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: the reason Me and Girls works is Lindsay Lohan is 659 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: such a star, Like she's such a star that you 660 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: follow her and she's a site for the whole time, 661 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: and she's narrating it and you're just like willing to 662 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: hang out with her the whole time. And then I think, 663 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: no Shade, but the Broadway musical, Like it's hard to 664 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: especially watching musical and have this person you're following, like 665 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: and now I'm going to that cavity. It's just like okay, 666 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: and like you're watching it and at just doing it 667 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, where's Lindsay Whereas like with Devil Worse Product, 668 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: I think we're dealing with the same thing. With the musical, 669 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: you have to really find the right person to play 670 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: that lead part because Andy is not an easy part. 671 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: You forget watching Couple Worse Product how fucking good and 672 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: and she makes that movie work. And of course, like 673 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: Meryl Streep gets all the credit because she's so amazing 674 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: and iconic, and I would even go as far as 675 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: to say one of her best roles. And then us 676 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: fags are always like Emily Blont, Emily Blont, Emily Blunt, 677 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: but Ann gets lost in that movie and the conversation 678 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: star and actor Emily Blunt. I think, I actually think 679 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: to be an action in any sort of action movie, 680 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: you've got to be a little bit of a star. 681 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: And I think Emily Blunt is maybe one of the 682 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: like closest things we had for a minute to a 683 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: female action star. Her and Scarlett Tomorrow. Tomorrow is so good, 684 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: She's so good, you can't conversation Scarlett is that we 685 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: had for many years. And then it kind of like 686 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: her Angelina is like sort of um, you know, her 687 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: disciples I guess were like Scarlett and then Emily there 688 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: for a minute with Edge of Tomorrow. And also, wasn't 689 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: there something else I guess like don't don't speak or 690 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: don't whisper, don't be quiet? Wasn't she a looper? Looper? Yes, looper, 691 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: because there was rumors for a while that she was. 692 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,479 Speaker 1: She was don't speak, don't actually it's really culture number 693 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: forty nine, don't speak, don't whisper, But there was rumors 694 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: that she was going to be Captain Marvel, and I 695 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: think she would have been amazing. Well, she was supposed 696 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: to be black widow. Really, yes, okay, this is iconic. 697 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: She was supposed and then hurt herself or she either 698 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: hurt herself or there was a scheduling thing that she 699 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: couldn't do it, and then they cast scar Joe. That's see, 700 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: that's that's so sad, because she could pull off the 701 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: Red in a way that scar Joe never could pull 702 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: off that Red. I think scar Joe looks good in 703 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: The Red. I think she always there's a reason they 704 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: let her be blonde in these last installments. Yeah, they 705 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: like literally the character is called black widow, iconic redhead, 706 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: and for the last three movies they're like, yeah, you 707 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: can be blond you ever. I think she she first 708 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: appeared an Iron Man too, I believe, and her part 709 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: is literally wordless, like she was there just to look hot. 710 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: And she has one scene where, yeah, she has one 711 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: scene where she like sucks people up, and I remember 712 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: thinking in the audience like, holy shit, like this person 713 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: is something else. And but they gave her truly no dialogue, 714 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: and so to watch the progression of her having no 715 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: Dialogue and Iron Man too, and all these years passing 716 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 1: in them all getting their own projects and owned movies 717 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: and even like all this ship and for them to 718 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: only announce just now that she's getting Black Widow. It's wild, 719 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: it's crazy. She's by far the most compelling parts of 720 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: those movies from I can't you know what I can't 721 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: wait for? It is the the the uh Elizabeth Olsen 722 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: and Paul Bettany too hander that what how are those 723 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: two going to carry a movie? You know? I don't know, um, 724 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: But Natalie being like just coming back kimming, being an 725 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: action star, I think would be very if she like 726 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: fully leaned into Annihilation totally amously Star Wars. She did 727 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: not handle a blaster, you know what I mean? You 728 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: can tell. You can always tell with Natalie though it's 729 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: right behind the eyes, she's like, I don't want to 730 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: be doing that. Well, I literally think, Actually, it's interesting 731 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: you say that, because I think with Natalie Portman, you 732 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: literally can tell when she thinks the material is dumb. 733 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: You can when Natalie Portman is trying, it's a different 734 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 1: thing than when she's not. That's so true. She needs 735 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: a good director and someone she trusts and seen partners 736 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: she likes because when you are watching her, she doesn't 737 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: want to be there. I don't want to be there, right, No, 738 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: like in Star Wars, she's barely awake, you know, just 739 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: she's like, you can tell she thinks Anderson Anderson Cooper. 740 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: You can tell she thinks Ashton Kutcher is the dumbest 741 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: man alive. Even in the Thorn movies. Yeah, she's phoning 742 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: it in. Yeah. Fully, I wonder how much she'll give 743 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: female thor. I think she will. Hopefully she'll have fun 744 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: comic And she was a little bit like, I don't 745 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: think she'd come back. I don't think she'd come back 746 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: because if she didn't really want to, I really don't. 747 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: But man, those that that is the thing about that, 748 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: That the whole series of movies is they just pulling 749 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: these A list women and waste like Rachel McAdams and 750 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: doctor Strange. Do you remember, no? Of course not, of 751 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: course not that sucks. If we were talking, were you there, 752 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about Rachel McAdams a lot. I mean 753 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: we've I feel like we always talk about Rachel McAdams 754 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: and need to rescue her from her current agents and 755 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: get her better agents because there should be a bit 756 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: she should be everywhere. We were talking about how like 757 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: there was a moment in time where she absolutely was 758 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: going to be, Like there was amin Yeah, there was 759 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: like a like a solid couple of years there where 760 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 1: we were positive that the next stars of romantic comedies 761 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna be Rachel McAdams and Katherine Heigl. And I 762 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: think two different things. Katherine Heigel turned out to be 763 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: difficult whatever, like that narrative solidified and then it was 764 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,479 Speaker 1: just too much. And Rachel McAdams, I just think bad luck, 765 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: bad decisions, like always kind of be in like fourth 766 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: or fifth on everyone's list, you know what I mean, 767 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: just someone who got lost, who is so good because 768 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: you think about mean girls, The Notebook, Family Stone, Wedding Crashers, 769 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: Red Eye. Can you imagine? Actually that's not a bad five, 770 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: it's can you imagine being a those? My God? And 771 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: also such versatil what the versubtility that that has? U? God? 772 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: Just her? Yeah? Those? I mean yeah, but part of 773 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: me is like I'm watching her in interviews now, where 774 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: as like recently she was doing press for something and 775 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: I was like, she just seems like chilled out, and 776 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: she's probably like not too thirsty. Yeah, maybe that's it. 777 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: I think that may be part of it is she's like, 778 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that much, which is which 779 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: I respected in mind. I get that that that's me, 780 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: that's me. That's why. Actually, that's why you don't see 781 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: me everywhere, because I said, because I don't want to 782 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: do I don't want to do too much. For a 783 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: moment there, Joel was going to be, you know, the 784 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: next I can't wait for. I truly I can't wait 785 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: for Joel to lead a rom com. Though I can't wait. 786 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll ever. I think if you 787 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: know what, and we love Billy, we love but if 788 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: Billy can lead like a Jett m I feel like 789 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: that's going to open a door maybe for some people. 790 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: And Joel is gonna fuck Paul bet me, Oh my god, 791 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: I would love I actually met him. I think he's hot, 792 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: he's got he's got hot energy, and that's what you 793 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: don't need to be hot, you just need to have 794 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: hot energy. And that I'm very susceptible to that. Like 795 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: I that's why I like, I don't like. Apps have 796 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: never been the best place for me to find my 797 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: favorite kind of sexual partners because I'm so much like 798 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: I need the energy in the room. So you have 799 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: self tape with me. You got to come into the 800 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: buzz in, take the elevator up to sign in. Yes, 801 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: and I might need to say to do it again, yeah, 802 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: because like there are so many people that I like 803 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: where I'd be like if I saw pictures of you, 804 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: I would be like no. Honestly, sometimes I've had some 805 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 1: of the hottest like hookups of my life with people 806 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: who I was like, not necessarily super like on the 807 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: on the basis of the way they look like super 808 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: attracted to them, and then like whether it was like 809 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: a certain I don't know. It's like sexuality is like 810 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: it's a chemical vibe. Sometimes I'll be smelling someone and 811 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: it is pheromones. Because there was a guy on on 812 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: Fire Island where I was like sort of you know, 813 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: like testing the water, seeing my options, and he was 814 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: not the hottest one, but like for some reason it 815 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: was like a chemical things like this is the one 816 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: to have them. I had to you know what. I 817 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: think the reverse is true for me too. By the way, 818 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I test. I think just pictures alone. No, no, 819 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: But once once you get me in the room. Once 820 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: you get in the room with Stoll, he has a book. 821 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: I book, I book, I book, I book, I will 822 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: I book, I book. Well above my weight class, I think, 823 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: I do. I do. God, I think that guys would 824 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: never look at me online or swipe I have, I have, 825 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: and and it it's I need to be in the 826 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: room with them. And that's it. I think, down my 827 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: leg and then get me in the room. That is 828 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: that is becoming less and less true as time goes on. 829 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: You know what it is? That is maybe possible. But 830 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: the thing is is like people, you know, I still 831 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: walk into I walked into plenty of parties on Fire 832 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 1: Island where everyone looked and just was like you don't 833 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: belong here, And like I think that will always be 834 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: the case no matter what I look like. And I 835 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: have just sort of let it go. I've let it go. 836 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: I let it go. This trip, Joel and I went 837 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: to Pine's party with with Joel Brooklyn and Joel justin 838 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: Dean and truly so fun. And I think it was 839 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: fun because we stuck together because I after the first 840 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: like forty five minutes of walking to that party, was like, 841 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not getting any vibes for anybody. 842 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,479 Speaker 1: And also I don't think that's what the night is about. 843 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: And I'm going to let that go and just like 844 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like, that's not what this is and 845 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm just here with my friends and that's going to 846 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: be it. And it was truly like a joy story's 847 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: time when we watched the damn sunrise. We watched the 848 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: damn sunrise on the fucking beach honestly hot, so cool 849 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: it was, it was, and we like and we did, 850 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: we did. We did the very you know, molly thing 851 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: of just whatever. We just like pulled each other close, 852 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: Joel and I and just constantly would just like say, 853 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: like the most earnest ship in the world. It was 854 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: very beautiful. It was beautiful. It was almost and that's 855 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: like that is that is the most molly thing. The 856 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: second most molly thing is me trying to shove my 857 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: molly flaccid dick into butts, like just like folding it 858 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: up and like trying to make it happen, pizza roll 859 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: and just trying to get it in likeying to make 860 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: it happen, and it just never squeeze from the base. 861 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: And then that gives you more girth up, doctor Yang 862 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: over here, base squeeze from the base. That's title about um. 863 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Of course the third most molly thing 864 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: is right after you take it and it hits you 865 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: shoot your pants. Well that's if you get it cut 866 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: with a little bit less meth. Know, Oh my god, 867 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: it's the math that makes you shi is there methinite? Oh? 868 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that there exists molly on that we're 869 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: taking right now that doesn't have a little bit of meth. Okay, 870 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: you can get a test hit though, Everybody, what do 871 00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: you know that we don't about this math? I'm sorry. 872 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: I is the first time I'm learning about this meth 873 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 1: in the molly all cut with like different, it's not 874 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: we're not getting I don't think it exists. Maybe in Spain, 875 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: in Spain where they grow it, where they where it 876 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: grows on trees. Yeah, I have a Molley tree in 877 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: my backyard in Barcelona. Sorry, sorry, thank you Noah Galvin 878 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: for that pronunciation. In book Smart, I'm seeing him in waitress. 879 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a waitress. Yeah. I didn't know 880 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: this either, but Dar was telling me we're going on 881 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: Tuesday to see waitress and don't that name sleep that 882 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: name out. You cut this interrogation. Um, we're going to 883 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: see waitress playing in waitress. I don't know. I guess 884 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: like one of the guys who like sings a couple 885 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: of songs that famous rule. I think I think he's playing. 886 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: I think he's filling in for Kimmy goes part Art 887 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: has not been in the show. It's been like the 888 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: first three weeks, Kimmy go what she does? I feel 889 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 1: like I'm not seeing way just at the right time though, 890 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 1: because well, it's Shana. Is it Shoshana Bean right now? Yeah? 891 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you already see Shanna, but most the right 892 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: not the right time perform because I didn't know. Wait, 893 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: are we positive that it's Shoshana right now? I think 894 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 1: I believe it. I'm going to look it up because 895 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: that's not the intel. By the way, speaking of mean 896 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: girls are made from like Adams, I just have to 897 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: shout out Taylor Louderman, who played Regina, who's playing Regina 898 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: until September six. By the time this episode comes out, 899 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 1: it'll be rene rap of Jimmy's fame. M Taylor Lauderman 900 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: saw her recently do this thing for work, and I 901 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: was just like fell head over heels in love. I 902 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen me girl. She's amazing and she's she and 903 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: the thing is is and I'm not sure if it's 904 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: a product of the writing or just how it turned out, 905 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: but she is this like it makes the whole show 906 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: sort of about her, about Regina. She's so good. And 907 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: they tweaked her ark Regina's ark in the show a 908 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: little bit more, and it really does sort of everything 909 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: sort of revolves around. That's pretty cool. That's an interesting thing. 910 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: But I just want to say, Taylor Lowderman, I'm in love. 911 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: If you remember me, please, I will be my friend. 912 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: I will be seeing Alison Lough and the role of 913 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: Jenna taking over Froshana Bean. She is also a former alphabet. 914 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,760 Speaker 1: We love them. I mean, look, she used any used 915 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: to be um. But I famously like to see a 916 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: good old fashioned character actress on stage. Colin I were 917 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: color school that I were talking about how we were 918 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: going on this round about how like pretending to be 919 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: this like fifty year old man from like Michigan. That's like, 920 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to see some star in the role. 921 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: That's not why I come from New York. I come 922 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: from New York to see a good old fashioned character. 923 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: I want to see a union woman on that stage 924 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: acting or hard out. That's why you come to New York. 925 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's beautiful. That was just a funny bit. 926 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: Cole Skola on Fire Island is the most beautiful thing, joyful. 927 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: So I mean, just wow, I love How are we did? 928 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: We should be checking really quickly about about our trips, 929 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: how to go okay, oh we don't have to do 930 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: and like it was good. It was Fire Island every year. 931 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: It's every year it's a chiller and chiller and I'm 932 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: just like, I'm just here. It was not a chill 933 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: experience for me this year, but it was because your 934 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: phone broken shd. Yeah, I felt truly cuckoo. Because well, 935 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: I also flew back to l A on Friday, which 936 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,399 Speaker 1: is then really back to Fire Island, chartered your own 937 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: boat I hired about to get me off that island 938 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: in time and you and you benefited you absolutely so 939 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: can you tell the story of why you needed to leave? 940 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: Because I had a table read for NBC Sunnyside and 941 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: they could not They weirdly would not move it to 942 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: accommodate my vacation. And so you the fourth lead and 943 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: I and I was like, well, I guess I'm not 944 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 1: gonna and and and and a reasonable person would have 945 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 1: looked at their schedule and said, just go on Saturday. 946 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: Just go on Saturday. Because what I did is I 947 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: flew into New York on Wednesday. I went to Fire 948 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: Island on Thursday. I flew back to l A on 949 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: Friday and then flew and then landed in l A 950 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: at one pm, turned around at eight thirty pm, and 951 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: flew back to New York and then went straight from 952 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: It was in a red eye flight, got off the plane, 953 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: jumped back on the train, headed out to the ferry, 954 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 1: and I was back on Fire Island by ten am. 955 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: Cool cool, um it was, but you know what, it 956 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: was honestly worth it. That Thursday night was very fun 957 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,960 Speaker 1: for me. Uh what was Thursday? What happened Thursday? I 958 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,959 Speaker 1: don't know. I was just fucked up the entire time. 959 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: And then UM made it to the table read it 960 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: was so I'm very excited um for that. And then 961 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: Saturday was great. And then not two hours after I 962 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: arrived back to fire around them on Saturday, my phone 963 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 1: drowned in a pool. Um and I was without a 964 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: phone from Saturday till yesterday Thursday, and I have to 965 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: say it made me feel It truly made me feel 966 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: ten times crazier. It didn't seem like the lack of 967 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: a phone was bothering, you know. It wasn't. It wasn't, 968 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't actively But the only time I noticed that 969 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: I did not have a phone is when I was 970 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: waiting in line for the bathroom because there was like here, Yeah, um, 971 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't be without my not even photo moments, not 972 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: even like I want to take a picture of that. 973 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: We'll see. That's the other thing is that I am 974 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: sad that I didn't get to make everyone jealous about 975 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: my vacation. There are so many, so many terrible Instagram 976 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: stories that were missed out on so many photos, um 977 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: that that didn't get taken. Um. But yeah, it just 978 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: because I was like usually like I'm able to like 979 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,439 Speaker 1: sort of take a dip back into real life while 980 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm on vacation, and I forced me really not be 981 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: able to. And I, um, I mean, the big thing 982 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 1: I realized is that I have nothing interesting to say 983 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: that I like was like I was finally back with 984 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: my phone yesterday and I was like, now I can 985 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: finally tweet all of those great thoughts that I had 986 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 1: on I didn't have a single interesting thought on the island, 987 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: not one, And I guess that's good interesting thought on vacation. 988 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: I recently, I wouldn't have been able to survive. I 989 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: recently looked at my phone and I put that thing 990 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 1: on that's like tells you how much hours you spend 991 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: on your phone. I'm embarrassed to say that I spend 992 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: the fucking message told me that I spent over average 993 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: over eight hours of phone today. I think that's pretty 994 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: normal for people like us. I do. It's so crazy. 995 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 1: I probably am on my phone longer than I'm sleeping. 996 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 1: But also it's not like you're on one continuous eight 997 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: hour streak with you know, I just get nervous that. 998 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: Like I'm around people and they're like, oh, that's the 999 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: kind of person who's always on his phone. Well everybody. 1000 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: That is not an interesting observation anymore. Like people of 1001 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: er than us love to be like, you know, I 1002 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: saw these people, the whole table, millennials, all on their phone, 1003 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,399 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, fuck you, it's not exceptional. It's 1004 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: not exceptional. That's just now we're moving. I do wonder though, 1005 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: like I was just understimulated on Fire Island because of 1006 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: the lack of the phone, Like I wasn't being like 1007 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: constantly like and I think that in doubt, like yeah, 1008 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: just like scrolling through stuff. So I wonder, like, I 1009 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: wonder how that's affecting us to just like constantly be 1010 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: engaged and constantly be you know, um stimulated by information 1011 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 1: and memes and jokes and music all the time. I mean, yeah, 1012 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: I think it's um damaging. Wow. But I you know 1013 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 1: what I did on Fire Island, and my thing with 1014 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: Fire Island is I actually don't love going not because 1015 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 1: of any like social or sexual thing. It's because I 1016 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: don't like to be sandy in my bed. Like there 1017 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of sand shared a bed, sorry, and 1018 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot of sand. Our only fans is 1019 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: dropping soon it's gonna be us sleeping next to each other, 1020 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: back back to back, like the the imask dedvisor on 1021 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: and they're sand all over me. Um. But I apparently 1022 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: tracked a lot of sand back to the bed because 1023 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: it was really sandy. And I just don't like my 1024 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: when my feet are sandy. I just prefer something like 1025 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: Palm Springs where it's like pool culture. Here, here we 1026 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:29,080 Speaker 1: go again. No, it's not the l a. Palm Springs 1027 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: fucking sucks. I totally disagree with you. Palm Strings fucking sucks. 1028 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: The restaurants are terribly you have to drive everywhere. I disagree. 1029 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: I just like, I mean, it's it's a matter of 1030 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: like civilization versus seclusion. I love a beach. I need 1031 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 1: a beach. I see, I grew up with beaches. I 1032 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: passed on the beach. I passed on the beach. But 1033 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is one thing I did 1034 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: do that I never do is I went in the ocean. 1035 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: But it's always too cold. I'm very sensitive to cold. 1036 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: And I had a gorgeous experience in the ocean. I 1037 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: had an emotional experience. When we were tripping, Matt was 1038 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: Bonnie Bonnie. He was big little eyes, just like truly, 1039 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: like we were all like buyer blankets and we just 1040 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: saw Matt down by the beach, like changing around. I 1041 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: had a lot to think about he did. He It 1042 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: was so funny and we and I was like, what 1043 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 1: song is playing in your head? And He's like, I'm 1044 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: not listening to any music in my head, and then 1045 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 1: later he came back. It's the Archer. It's the Archers. Literally, 1046 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the Archer in my head. Been Um, 1047 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that song is great. I think it is 1048 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: Out of the Woods Getaway Car part Trace, But I 1049 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: think it's just the worst version of those two songs. 1050 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: You know. I think she's she's singing about something that 1051 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't think she's really touched on before. And I think, 1052 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: like it's not really touched on in music, maybe hasn't 1053 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: been lyrically touched on in a while. Never heard it. Yeah, No, 1054 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: it's just like, um, like I have the capacity to hurt, 1055 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: and I've been hurt. Like I love that idea, Like 1056 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: I just think that there's such a there's so much 1057 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: lyrically in it, Like I think like it's I really 1058 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: like that it never drops. Actually the first time I 1059 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: heard it, I was like, it never like there's no drop, 1060 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: It never becomes something you can like really feel in 1061 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: a deeper way. But I actually disagree with that now 1062 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 1: because I kind of like this the way that it 1063 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: ends with a sense of like calm, you know what 1064 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean. It's kind of like the story of like 1065 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: you made someone and then maybe like it doesn't have 1066 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: to be like it as difficult as it's always been, 1067 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I think that's kind 1068 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: of nice, and I think that's I appreciate, like a 1069 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: lyrical simplicity like that, or just not even lyrical simplicity. 1070 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's lyrical lyrically simple, but just that 1071 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of like um, melodically, it's very kind of straightforward, 1072 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of nice. And I appreciate 1073 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: that she released it in advance of the album because 1074 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: I think that if I have a feeling, the album 1075 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: will be more like that. And by the time that 1076 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: this episode is out, the album will be out and 1077 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: the jury will be out. The jury will be out, 1078 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: but I think Drewy won't be out. Oh yeah, yeah, 1079 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: they'll come back. The foreman will say Hi. Max. Twitter 1080 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: did santage rot show called Taggart Lawyer's at Law and 1081 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: they have Eliza her What's playing the foreman. So it's 1082 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: just the courtroom drama. But they have Eliza What's playing 1083 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: the foreman. She just the writing is so good. She goes, hi, Um, 1084 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm the leader of the group. You might remember me anyway, Um, 1085 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: we've made our decision Um, we just want to say 1086 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: that both sides give an amazing performance, like gave it 1087 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: amazing performance. Speaking of courtrooms and amazing performances, you guys 1088 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: got to check out I Love You Now dieing about that. 1089 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: It's an HBO doc It's a two hour, two part 1090 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,919 Speaker 1: doc um and it is about this case in Massachusetts 1091 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: that girl who told her texted her boyfriend for yourself 1092 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: and then he did and yes, I remember the stent. 1093 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 1: They charged her with manslaughter. Um. And it is this 1094 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: case and they do such a good job because in 1095 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 1: the first hour you're like, get her, but then they 1096 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: make her sympathetic, and then in the second hour you're like, 1097 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute, no one here, it was guilty. Um, 1098 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: how do they do that? The relationship between her and 1099 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: the boyfriend and how it fucked up it is, Yeah, 1100 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: And it is just like this example of the state 1101 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: needing to criminalize this thing in order to sort of 1102 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: like sort of ring a win out of a tragic situation. 1103 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: And we don't this none, none of it needed to 1104 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: be criminal, you know, like it shouldn't have been punitive, 1105 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: like she needs treatment. It was just so it's tragic, 1106 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: and Liam Michelle is prominently featured in the second half, 1107 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: and she booked, she booked. Wait wait I thought it 1108 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,960 Speaker 1: was a documentary. It is, but Liam Michell she booked 1109 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: what She's the Janine Pierre of this. I gotta say, 1110 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: you just have to watch it. And and Liam Michelle 1111 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: is in it, and she acted, she is acting in 1112 01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: it what she is she is acting. Okay, I'm end 1113 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 1: from I'm not gonna say I'm not going to spoil 1114 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: it for the people who who I love you now 1115 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: Diet on HBO. You question today, Um, speaking of great 1116 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: performances in courtrooms, you guys got to check out big 1117 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,760 Speaker 1: a little. You guys have to check a little. Well. 1118 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: The thing that Matt he was doing now is when 1119 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 1: like sometimes I will be pouty or whatever and will 1120 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 1: be like, what's wrong, or Matt will just like force 1121 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 1: He'll force me to He'll force me to be like 1122 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: social or amiable or whatever. I don't like the energy 1123 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 1: in this house, some dark energy and I don't And 1124 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: I grab your head and I go, mom, it's the 1125 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,919 Speaker 1: crown that you're adding and to be to be clear 1126 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: for for the reader. Um. When we when Matt came 1127 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: up with this bit, we really dug into how horrible 1128 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: that character. Yeah, no, for them to add another the 1129 01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: only other black woman in the castle, which is shocking. 1130 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: It was so shocking when I I could not when 1131 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: she was sneaking those crystals into that room, I said, 1132 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: what are you doing? David E. Kelly? But literally it 1133 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: was like when you when the first episode that she's in, 1134 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and then there's that first there's the dinner scene. The 1135 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: dinner scene is iconic, so and the actress kills it. 1136 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: And so I was thinking to myself when I was 1137 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 1: watching that, I'm like, this is so crazy because this 1138 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: actress that's playing Bonnie's mother is absolutely slaying this part. 1139 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: But I wonder why they're not. They don't have like 1140 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: a big star in this part. So my theory is 1141 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Angela Basset or like Alfrey Wood. I bet they were 1142 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 1: out to all the fancy actresses and then they all 1143 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: were like, oh, I have one good scene and then 1144 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: she's a voodoo which and I'm in a coma from 1145 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: four episodes. Yeah no, I'm not doing this. I'm Angela Bassett. 1146 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Also, I don't know 1147 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: that that's what happened, And I'm actually happy that this 1148 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: actress booked depart because she at least got two episodes 1149 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: of good work, but she she was given not great material, 1150 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: but she was amazing that. I just think that really 1151 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: was like I guess they needed something like that to 1152 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: happen so that the Zoe Kravitz Bonnie character get to 1153 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the point where she said that to her husband and 1154 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: like bucked up and went to the police station. But 1155 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: it was like, I don't know this. I thought the 1156 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: first two or three episodes were great, and then they 1157 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: had like a really weak middle, and then the finale 1158 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: I thought was good. I haven't finished. You haven't finished. 1159 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: I I fell behind and I looked at my c 1160 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: and I said, I would rather watch American Ninja Warrior 1161 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: right now than big little lies. And then when that happens, 1162 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: you really have to reconsider. You hate to hear it, 1163 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: you do. But the thing is, I just like wasn't 1164 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: engaged by the story. I kept being like, why did 1165 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: they lie? Like it is it is a set up 1166 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the first season and you buy 1167 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: it and you're like, yes, okay, great, and then that 1168 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: you come they all come back and you're like, let's 1169 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: think about this. Doesn't ring? Do you know how it ends? 1170 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't. Do you want it? Can we talk about it? 1171 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,919 Speaker 1: Or do you want to watch it? You're not gonna 1172 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: watch I'll watch it, watch it. I don't want to. 1173 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to talk about 1174 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: something that I haven't actually seen. I want to. I 1175 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,360 Speaker 1: don't wanna be forced to defend or um, you know, 1176 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: sort of condemn and ending that I haven't seen. Here's 1177 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: what I'll say. The way that it ends, and I'm 1178 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 1: not going to say anything. The way that it ends 1179 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: made me feel like, oh, maybe we didn't need a 1180 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: second season m honestly, which is saying a lot, because 1181 01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: it's like there were so many great moments and so 1182 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: many great performances, and it was just like the way 1183 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: that it ends. I was like, oh, I liked the 1184 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 1: ending that these characters had initially the first ending because 1185 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: to me, it's like there's a mixed message there, ye 1186 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,160 Speaker 1: and it's a little dark. Well, none of us are 1187 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 1: going to ever be booked for any Reese Witherspoon project. 1188 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: We all went in for the teacher that we all 1189 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: gave us nothing to the camp. I'm sorry. I literally 1190 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: gorgeous man, beautiful man. But I was just like, Okay, 1191 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: I could have done this better. We all could have. 1192 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 1: We all could yeah, I mean maybe he like, why no, 1193 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I didn't see your guys tapes? Actually no, but Matt 1194 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 1: and I did, you and I record itself team No. 1195 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that because we were going 1196 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 1: out for the same part and I didn't want us 1197 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: to copy each other. Right, But the thing is with 1198 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: you two, especially if you know that if they went 1199 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: with one or the other, it's completely different. Like the 1200 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: thing they wanted, well, the thing I just didn't. I 1201 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I just I didn't want little like choices. 1202 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want our choices to get confused. Okay, let's 1203 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 1: let's all do let's all three of us do the 1204 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: same line. Okay. The line is, what is the moral 1205 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: of Charlotte's Web Where's Amabella? Okay? I know that's not 1206 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the line, but like, what is the moral Charlotte's Where's Abella? Like, 1207 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I'll go first, what is the moral of Charlotte's Well, 1208 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Where's Amabella? Okay? That's okay, that's okay. I gotta think 1209 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: about this. M And for me, it's about the tempo, 1210 01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, at the tempo, of course, this is compelling 1211 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 1: to listen and you're own time, and you're own time. 1212 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 1: And what's the moral of Charlotte's Web? Where's the Amabella? 1213 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: That's very good. I think that beats mine. Okay, Matt, 1214 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 1: And what is the moral? I'm Charlotte's Web? Where's Amabella? Wow? Listener, reader, 1215 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: you decide who books that? Please reach out. I thank 1216 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you well. I think you went in a much different 1217 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, a kid, we lost a kid. No, you know, 1218 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: it would have been the gag though, for any of 1219 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: us to do even a short scene with Nicole Kidman 1220 01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: or Laura. That is true. There is a good honestly anybody. 1221 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 1: But honestly we we could have been in the room 1222 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 1: when she said that line about buying everyone polar bears. Oh, 1223 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I love that line. We could have been sitting there 1224 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: watching her deliver that's so good. Why are we bad 1225 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 1: and didn't book? I don't know. We're just not stars ractors. 1226 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 1: I think what happens is we're not six ft five 1227 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: beautiful models. And that is sort of the issue of 1228 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,800 Speaker 1: my life. I mean, the same yours, just mine, not 1229 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 1: you guys. Don't struggle, No no, no, no, no, no, 1230 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't struggle. Did you fell in love on the Island. 1231 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 1: I did not follow in that on the Island, although 1232 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: I said this on the George Sveres episode. I was like, 1233 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fall in love on Fire Island. Did not 1234 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: follow in the one. Well, I'm glad we got that update. 1235 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, because what do you mean No, I 1236 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 1: mean if you said you were going to fall and 1237 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 1: then you didn't, yeah, you know he didn't. There was 1238 01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I had a moment where that one guy, Oh, that 1239 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 1: one guy who just like but he like gave me 1240 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 1: a very like brotherly vibe because remember at the party, 1241 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: he was like, come here, and he just like pulls 1242 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: me in. It was like a camp counselor. I was. 1243 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 1: I was like, that's like the camp counselor I have 1244 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: a crush on. And then I was like and then 1245 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: I saw him at the pantry and I was like, 1246 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's when I go to Fire Island 1247 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 1: for platonic hugs. Platonic Well it was. It was a 1248 01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 1: sexy hug and Joel saw and then Joel afterwards goes like, 1249 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 1: go for it, and I was like, I don't know. 1250 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 1: And then and then it just wasn't the right thing. 1251 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: I The thing is is like platonic sex is what 1252 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I think my thirties evolved. I have not every new 1253 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,719 Speaker 1: friend I've made in my thirties, I very platonic sexual 1254 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: partner platonic sex with and I think it's great. I think, yeah, 1255 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: like anyways, like people in my close group of friends, 1256 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 1: does it sunk up intimacy for you? Though? Like it 1257 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really doesn't. I find it to be like really 1258 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 1: really nice and special and it's actually made sex more special. 1259 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: And I have less sex um now because yeah, because 1260 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to be because now I'm like have experienced 1261 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,760 Speaker 1: it as like an intimate act of like you know, 1262 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: friendship and love of with a a person and want that. 1263 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,679 Speaker 1: And yet I also don't think I ever, I don't 1264 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: think I I and you push back on this, I 1265 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 1: don't think I want a boyfriend ever. Ever. I think I'm, 1266 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I think I am. I am. I'm sort of coming 1267 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 1: into myself and realizing about myself that I am not 1268 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 1: somebody who I think I wanted. I forced myself to 1269 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: want it for so long, and I am so much 1270 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 1: happier right now being alone, and I think I will 1271 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 1: continue to be happier alone um rather than with one 1272 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,759 Speaker 1: other human. Yes, yes, it's not that I was pushing 1273 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: back on it. It's that it's that it's you said. 1274 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 1: You said it of like I'm not meant to be 1275 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: with someone I don't think, but well I don't. I mean, 1276 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,280 Speaker 1: I am not disputing that you don't want a boyfriend 1277 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: right now. That's your choice to not want one. But 1278 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that you're someone who's going to end 1279 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 1: up with without like a partner. I think that's the 1280 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: way you were saying. But I think that is true though, 1281 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm the kind of person who 1282 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: has space for that. We've had We've had friends who 1283 01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:02,200 Speaker 1: and you included, Matt, who have sort of said this, 1284 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,640 Speaker 1: have have sort of like expressed the sentiment in some 1285 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,040 Speaker 1: form like I'm not going to be with someone for 1286 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 1: for the long feu for like the far future. I 1287 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: will not be with someone like like um, like I'm 1288 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,719 Speaker 1: gonna say his name is completely But for the longest 1289 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 1: time I was like, no, never gonna have a boyfriend again. 1290 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: And now it's like now like just based on this 1291 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Vire Island trips, yeah, I'm starting to like actually date again. 1292 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's gonna be it for me 1293 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,640 Speaker 1: because I've always hated dating I and then then and 1294 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 1: I said this to you, the last three guys that 1295 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I've had feelings for, like strong feelings for, strong romantic 1296 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: feelings for I have turned into a like a different 1297 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 1: person and not a person that I liked. And I 1298 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: always come out of it and look back on it 1299 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 1: and be like, who was that? I did not like 1300 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: that person? I do not like myself when I'm in 1301 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 1: that mode, and I guess like until the day comes 1302 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 1: that I find somebody who I am my best self 1303 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: and who doesn't change you, and yeah, who doesn't like 1304 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 1: get in by me and like change me and like 1305 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,639 Speaker 1: make me needy and jealous and like whatever whatever. I'm 1306 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 1: just not going to go for it. And I'm not looking. 1307 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 1: And this isn't even me trying to trick the universe, 1308 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 1: because I've tried that before too, of being like I 1309 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: don't want it. I don't want to I don't want it, Okay, 1310 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 1: I said I don't want it, Please bring it into 1311 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,600 Speaker 1: my life. I'm just like so happy like having a 1312 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 1: lot of these very like intimate sort of like friendships 1313 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: and it's and it's and it's feeling that it's like 1314 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 1: it's giving me everything that I need that you may find. Well, 1315 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I don't know that. I feel like 1316 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: every every time I've ever got infatuated with someone, I 1317 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: chemically become like a crazy person, like and I that's 1318 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: why I feel like those things that and maybe those 1319 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 1: things that you were feeling experiencing, we're just infatuation. And 1320 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: like when when you find like a sort of like 1321 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: I love feeling for someone, it will feel different. I mean, yeah, 1322 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that the things that I'm feeling right 1323 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: now for certain people that I like are not love feelings. 1324 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 1: But I'm just like realizing the older I get that 1325 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: it's less important that I'm not that. I just don't 1326 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 1: know that I have space the space in my life, 1327 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: like I like to be alone and I dip in 1328 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 1: and out of it like I would like to. I 1329 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: would like to date a couple. I would like to 1330 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 1: be the non primary partner for two to separate people. God, 1331 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 1: you know, I would like to be the Alice and 1332 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 1: Janny of their relationship. Best supporting actor. Come in, come in, 1333 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 1: give an amazing monologue, and you think you want more, 1334 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,519 Speaker 1: but you don't right, Oh, but I always want more 1335 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 1: with he you think that, but you don't, but I don't. 1336 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,599 Speaker 1: I had this thought last night where I was staying 1337 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 1: up until very late, like just working on writing, and 1338 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 1: I was just like what stop what? No. I was 1339 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: just thinking about something in relationship to my own situation, okay, 1340 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: and which I do want to talk about just very 1341 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 1: very briefly. But um, I was like, if I had, 1342 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 1: if I had, like if I was sharing, if I 1343 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: was living with someone like a like a like a 1344 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: significant other, like this would suck and this would be hard, 1345 01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,639 Speaker 1: and I would have like go to the other room, 1346 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Like that's stupid. You do that all the time that 1347 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: I mean, the fact of the matter is like I 1348 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 1: would go when I was living with Henry. I would 1349 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: go into the next room all the time. Yeah, but 1350 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 1: I just I'm I'm like drolling this way where I 1351 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: just fucking love my alone time. So but you don't 1352 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 1: have to sacrifice your alone time to be with someone 1353 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 1: you do not. You simply don't. God. But like I've 1354 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 1: just been dating guy and we've talked about this. I've 1355 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 1: just been dating guys lately who have just been like 1356 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: so demanding of my time, and like I've had to 1357 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 1: put in I've had to for whatever reason, do the 1358 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,800 Speaker 1: work to make them feel comfortable or to make them 1359 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 1: enjoy the experience. And I'm like, why am I doing 1360 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: all the fucking work? I don't know anyway, but with Matt, 1361 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: because I remember, I mean like, of course, this is 1362 01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: like fresh off your breakup with Well, the thing is like, 1363 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying that, and I think what 1364 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 1: I said was I can't see myself putting that much 1365 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: energy into something because I know what it feels like 1366 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: to lose. It is like grieving a death. It is 1367 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 1: like going and it's it's hard and it hurts very bad. 1368 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Catherine Cohen says it, it's like having a 1369 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: best friend and then they it is I mean literally, 1370 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 1: it's like she says it as a joke like in 1371 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 1: her in her standard, but it's like it's so it's 1372 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: actually so true. And the fact of the matter is 1373 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: like even people that you remain close with after your 1374 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 1: break up, like the relationship isn't the same, and over 1375 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: time it becomes you talk less and less and less 1376 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and less to the point now where like, um, you 1377 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: don't see them much at all anymore, and you're still close. 1378 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 1: But it's like I was thinking the other day, like, uh, 1379 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 1: there's it's it's almost like a two and a half 1380 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,400 Speaker 1: year relationship that kind of just happened, and I almost 1381 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: like it's hard for me to almost recall the details 1382 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 1: of it. I remember it in like broad emotional strokes, 1383 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,800 Speaker 1: but I think, like honestly, like as amazing as it 1384 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 1: was when it was, Like the trauma of losing it 1385 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: like gets you to say things like I'm never doing 1386 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:03,960 Speaker 1: that again because likely relationships will end, you know what 1387 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, so it's it's hard, and it's like 1388 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 1: you do have to kind of like combat. It is 1389 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: like kind of going into like battle to do that. 1390 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Like it's just hard. But I do think that if 1391 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,880 Speaker 1: you stumble upon a situation where it's like two people 1392 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 1: willing to like try to do that, like you would 1393 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 1: owe it to yourself to to to try to see 1394 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 1: that happen. And I just feel like I just feel 1395 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 1: bad for people who, um not you guys. I'm not 1396 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:39,720 Speaker 1: saying you guys. I feel bad for people who who you. Like. 1397 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: I've been in situations where I've presented like that I 1398 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 1: like someone to someone else and I've just watched them 1399 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 1: like completely shut down, and I'm like, wow, I hope 1400 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: that this is like something that you I hope this 1401 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,720 Speaker 1: is something that works for you and you're okay with 1402 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: and not something that you're actively sad about. Because I 1403 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: like some people that I'm not like, no, not you're 1404 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 1: not you're not you'. I'm not talking about you. I'm 1405 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 1: talking about guys that I've dealt where it's like we'll 1406 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 1: have like an amazing like first situation together, or like 1407 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 1: it'll be very promising, and then I'll just get this sense, 1408 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,160 Speaker 1: especially with gay men, where it's just like they want 1409 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: to run so fast from like intimacy, and it's like 1410 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to be like that, and I wouldn't 1411 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,560 Speaker 1: want to be with something like that because you have 1412 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 1: to work at them. My problem is oftentimes when someone 1413 01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: when someone translates to me that they have like emotional issues, 1414 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: like I do the thing where it's like, oh, I 1415 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 1: should help, I will be the answer here. It's it's 1416 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 1: been such a pattern and so like it's been nice. 1417 01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: It's just been nice for that to not be the case. 1418 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 1: That can be needy. I can be, but it's so funny. 1419 01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,760 Speaker 1: You know what's funny about Ariana Grande's album that the 1420 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: thank You Next album is the first one is there's Imagine, 1421 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 1: then Needy then NASA. So needy is like I can 1422 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: be needy, Like if you don't talk to back, I'm 1423 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 1: gonna act crazy, like don't tell me. So that is 1424 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 1: I feel that way. I mean, there's never a right answer. 1425 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 1: There's That is such a twentysomething album, Tim Platt coin 1426 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: this term like it's a twenty something. I'm like Beach Boys. 1427 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: Pet Sounds is a twenty something album where it's like 1428 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,560 Speaker 1: pining and then like distancing and like truly or like 1429 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 1: vassily between all these crazy extremes and I feel like that, 1430 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,120 Speaker 1: like the thinking next is like generationally, Like it's such 1431 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 1: a It's just so funny because like the two sentiments 1432 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: are literally opposite, but they're both great songs and they 1433 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 1: both work, and I both think they literally explain those 1434 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: situations well. And we contain multitudes, and we sure do 1435 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 1: contains contains multitude. This is the kind of thing that was. 1436 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: Like when I'm in a relationship, I am very tactile 1437 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,800 Speaker 1: and very like, I'm not possessive, but I am like 1438 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,960 Speaker 1: I like to be touching the person and I like 1439 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 1: to be like on top of them and like giving 1440 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 1: them kisses and stuff, and I love to cuddle at night. 1441 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: And then also there's another part of me that's like, 1442 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I can't talk to you for twenty four hours. Yeah, 1443 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm the same at the drop of a hat. Yep, 1444 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 1: ye same. Wow. That's why I feel almost happy that 1445 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 1: like the person I'm seeing now, like we have had 1446 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: realized that it was like a thing, and then we're 1447 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 1: immediately separated across the country. That's actually how dangerous though 1448 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't emotionally dangerous because I out of here. I 1449 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:27,640 Speaker 1: think it is because you when you live out the 1450 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,519 Speaker 1: beginning stages of a relationship primarily over text at this stage, 1451 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 1: and it's different for in your situation is different because 1452 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,640 Speaker 1: you have known this person for a while and you 1453 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,559 Speaker 1: started out from so it's different. But I will say 1454 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 1: that in general, when I have had these situations occur 1455 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 1: and you live out that relationship in text, you build 1456 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 1: a different person in your brain and you build up, 1457 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, this like tethered version of who they actually 1458 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: are in your brain, and then you get to them 1459 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 1: and it is and it all falls apart. That's happy, 1460 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 1: and that's happened recently. I get that. I mean, I 1461 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 1: hear that. I think that your situation is. We also 1462 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,640 Speaker 1: speak on the phone a lot more than I've ever 1463 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,600 Speaker 1: talked to anyone on the phone. He does love to 1464 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: call people on the phone. You're not unique. It's fine 1465 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 1: that I'm not unique. I just I'm not a phone person. 1466 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: But I will be for like someone that needs that. 1467 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 1: But I am not a phone person, and I am 1468 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 1: not a FaceTime person. Oh I'm a FaceTime face. I 1469 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:29,240 Speaker 1: constantly FaceTime both of you. You don't FaceTime me of you, 1470 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:35,480 Speaker 1: both of you, and I see you see it unavailable, unavailable. 1471 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 1: The last you FaceTime thrice a year. Bit that is 1472 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: not true. Yes, that is not true. Every single time 1473 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: I am care of a big facetimer. We facetimes a 1474 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,479 Speaker 1: couple of times. You need a FaceTime. The last time 1475 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 1: you FaceTime me was when we were in Palm Springs 1476 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: and you were in Mexican Mexico can. Oh. But Joel 1477 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 1: and I a few months ago tried face timing a 1478 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 1: group FaceTime what you can do now, which truly see, 1479 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,680 Speaker 1: I've never done it like since that. But like that 1480 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: was just you and me, and like we needed more 1481 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 1: people to make it feel like an actual experience. We 1482 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,600 Speaker 1: need to do this. I've group facetimed a lot of 1483 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,679 Speaker 1: people that are in the same bar, just like trying 1484 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: to find everybody. That's so it's not effective. It would 1485 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: be better to text um, but I just love to 1486 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 1: FaceTime and you guys don't answer. You never pick up 1487 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: my FaceTime. That's I've always picked up do you guys? 1488 01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 1: Are you guys? Here? Here's the quest, here's a pole. 1489 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 1: Do you need to text the person first to let 1490 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 1: them know that you're about to face time? Okay? I 1491 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 1: never do No, I don't do that. Does it Does 1492 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,599 Speaker 1: it increase your chance of them picking up? Though it's 1493 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 1: a set up, It's like setting up a meeting. It's like, okay, great, 1494 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:42,800 Speaker 1: can I face time you in like ten minutes? I 1495 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 1: faced I FaceTime with my my therapist. That's the only 1496 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: person if that's great. No, he's the only one appointments with. 1497 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 1: He's the only one that picks up. Dr Neil, Stop, 1498 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:59,760 Speaker 1: this is better. I used your code when you my 1499 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: jingle is catching on? Is that an ad tracy? Did? 1500 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 1: Did I count as? You? Guys get money? Now? We 1501 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 1: get money now? Okay, I think it's time. I think 1502 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 1: it's time. No, you always forget I always forget. I 1503 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,559 Speaker 1: actually forgot to. It's forgot. Wait, um, I have one, 1504 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: I have one, I have one. Okay, this is um 1505 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 1: one second. This is I don't think so, honey. These 1506 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 1: is our second. When we take a minute to go 1507 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: off on something in culture, Matt, you'll start. This is 1508 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 1: Matt Rogers. I don't think so many times starts now, 1509 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Vincent van go Okay, dramatic bitch. 1510 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 1: Guess what. I have both my ears and I will 1511 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: become famous during my lifetime. Stupid poor I think that 1512 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 1: you are not even the best painter. Okay, I think 1513 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,680 Speaker 1: that there were other painters that were much better, like 1514 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Jackson and Pollock. Excuse me, and he kept both his ears. Honey, Hey, 1515 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I hope that you have at least one of your 1516 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 1: ears now, Vincent van Gogh, because hear me when I 1517 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 1: say I don't think so. When I see that photograph 1518 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,639 Speaker 1: of starry Night, when I say your picture of night, 1519 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,639 Speaker 1: I think, okay, there's some promise here which we could 1520 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 1: have seen more. And then guess what we didn't. You 1521 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: are one portrait and one ear, and I think that 1522 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,640 Speaker 1: you haven't even had a good movie made about you. 1523 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 1: Did William Dafoe play you? I don't even remember. I 1524 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Vincent van Gogh more like Vincent 1525 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 1: van hell And that's one minute. That's that was a 1526 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,800 Speaker 1: very good it really was. I like that, You're that 1527 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,640 Speaker 1: was like Nanette. Honestly, that was like you hit a 1528 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: lot of the same thematic beats as Nanette. Here's why 1529 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: because I looked over at the at the library and 1530 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 1: there was there was a biography on Vincent van go 1531 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, I have mine. Okay, I'm gonna 1532 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 1: do mine on. I don't think so, honey, Randy shows 1533 01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: and the band playing on it didn't play long enough. 1534 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Oh yes, please, I don't think the band played on. Okay, wait, 1535 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 1: let's let's each one. I'm gonna do one off the 1536 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 1: bookshelf too. This is Bowen Yanks. I don't think so 1537 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: his time starved me out. I don't think so many 1538 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Sigmund Freud, bitch, what are you saying? Oh, dreams are 1539 01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,640 Speaker 1: the unconscious way of resolving conflicts that the consciousnes to. 1540 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,759 Speaker 1: That are that are too disturbing for the conscious? Bitch? 1541 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 1: I knew that. I knew that first, I bet before 1542 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,760 Speaker 1: I was even born. And when you were fucking in 1543 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 1: school in in in Austria. I don't even know your life, bitch, 1544 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 1: Get a better get a better life story, get a 1545 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 1: better biography. All I know about you is that you 1546 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,400 Speaker 1: think that all men want to suck their mothers, not 1547 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,320 Speaker 1: if they're get everything about gay people. And I think 1548 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,920 Speaker 1: he like, did you know whatever, Sigmund Freud. I truly 1549 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 1: slept through you in my high school psychology classes. I 1550 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,760 Speaker 1: don't give a ship and and psych. I didn't even 1551 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,519 Speaker 1: take high school psychology, but we did a brief scheme 1552 01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,640 Speaker 1: of you in my philosophy class because I was that 1553 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 1: bitch who was thinking in abstract terms and not doing 1554 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 1: soft science bullshit while I was in junior year five seconds, 1555 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,640 Speaker 1: I was doing hard sciences and philosophy because I was 1556 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 1: watch a renaissance Man and I be that's one minute. 1557 01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,280 Speaker 1: You didn't take a P psych, no bit, because I was. 1558 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 1: I was first of all on I by and I 1559 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: was second of all. I was just like a P 1560 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,680 Speaker 1: psych was was was like truly like the cop out 1561 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,600 Speaker 1: a P. I'm sorry for all of my app You 1562 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,439 Speaker 1: were so mean and nest. It was not it was 1563 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 1: not a real class. And I'm and people who took 1564 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 1: a P psych are underdeveloped people who will never realize 1565 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 1: their pretending exactly. I got a five on a PC. Yeah, 1566 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,680 Speaker 1: exact exactly what what are? What we are? At the 1567 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,160 Speaker 1: AP scores, I got a five on a P PSYCH. 1568 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 1: I got a five on AP English Lit. I got 1569 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,720 Speaker 1: a five on AP English Comp. I got a three 1570 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: on AP Environmental Science. I got a two on AP 1571 01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,439 Speaker 1: American History. I got a two on AP European History, 1572 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:54,080 Speaker 1: and that holy Piers two. Those are a lot of aps. 1573 01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 1: I did okay on my toest scores. Never stop saying, 1574 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:01,719 Speaker 1: oh came really clear. There's the the conversation keeps going 1575 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 1: and and let me just pull this up. Yeah, here's 1576 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,960 Speaker 1: the thing, Like, if you asked me to stop singing, 1577 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to like that is I thought you 1578 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: were just going down to like kiss my shoe. Okay, 1579 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 1: here's here's can we just talk about this. Yeah, Matt 1580 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:17,080 Speaker 1: needs to stop singing. These are reviews that a meeting 1581 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 1: of las Culturesta's first one, Matt needs to stop singing, 1582 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 1: please stop. Next one, mattould keep singing. Title says it all. 1583 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 1: Next one, Matt should never stop singing? Uh music known 1584 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: Emoji's next one best podcast ever. Keep singing, stop talking 1585 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 1: about astrology. Next, keep singing and keep talking about community 1586 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: is really engaging with each other on the reviews. And 1587 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 1: also we should say it's time for you all to 1588 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: write a review. If you haven't written one, please write 1589 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 1: a review. It really helps this out. And you know 1590 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,479 Speaker 1: what iTunes is now that you know the podcast app 1591 01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,559 Speaker 1: has taken out the comedy charts. Yeah, why do they 1592 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,600 Speaker 1: do that? Taking it all categories? They've lumped them all 1593 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,479 Speaker 1: into one giant chart, right, Tracy Hot producer Tracy is 1594 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:03,839 Speaker 1: she shook, still have a little Well, I don't understand 1595 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 1: what they're doing, but I did notice that that was gone. Yes, 1596 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,000 Speaker 1: but anyway, um, you know, the landscapes changing. But send 1597 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 1: us a nice review in a rating. We would love that. Um, Jewel, 1598 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,519 Speaker 1: are you ready for one? Yeah? I'm not going to 1599 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 1: do the bookshelf thing. I just I am not facing 1600 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,519 Speaker 1: the bookshelves um in a way. And I was going 1601 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: to do Michelle Alexander as a joke. Um, but that's 1602 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 1: that's that's tough territory, territory. I was gonna say the 1603 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 1: new gym crow, we don't need a new one on me. 1604 01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,160 Speaker 1: But that's that was that was sort of the crux 1605 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 1: of UM, well let's hear what but you have something, Um, 1606 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 1: I think I have something. Yeah, this is DOLDKM boosters. 1607 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I 1608 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Culture podcasts that bank episodes, Okay, 1609 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 1: listen here. I do not need to hear about the 1610 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 1: met gallops three months later from people talking about it 1611 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,120 Speaker 1: like it happened yesterday, because I know that it did 1612 01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,599 Speaker 1: happen yesterday. And I know that some podcast so they 1613 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,840 Speaker 1: split in one podcast host goes and lives on a 1614 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,879 Speaker 1: different coast for several months and it makes it difficult 1615 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: for them to record episodes. But do not make that 1616 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,439 Speaker 1: our problems. Figure it out, because we want to be 1617 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,200 Speaker 1: able to talk about now. We want to be able 1618 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,800 Speaker 1: to talk about the things that now. We want to 1619 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,360 Speaker 1: be talking about our projects that are happening now. Okay, bitch. 1620 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 1: We do not know to hear the months later and 1621 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,720 Speaker 1: to know to know that there are things happening on 1622 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 1: the media, in the media, in the radio, people talking 1623 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 1: there are happening on the radio every day that we 1624 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 1: are not able to hear your takes on because they 1625 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 1: are banked to the high heavens, I do not think so, honey, 1626 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:46,680 Speaker 1: record them and release them immediately. That's you know, it 1627 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: is famously rule culture number ten. Current events are happening 1628 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: as we speak, and um, it's it's very difficult to 1629 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 1: not be able to cover this. You listen to myself 1630 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:03,240 Speaker 1: speak about mar Rubles end game in Texas months after that, 1631 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,360 Speaker 1: humiliating did you get did you get a bunch of hate? 1632 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 1: DM people people DM me me and saying your takes 1633 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 1: are old, so old, and to ask you about to 1634 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,400 Speaker 1: ask you about the actress, and then listen to the 1635 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,000 Speaker 1: episodes that were banked before and here you talk about it. 1636 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Three humiliating, humiliating. Fine, you know what as a guest 1637 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 1: host in your house, in your home? And are we 1638 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,960 Speaker 1: going to do because I'm I am going, I'm moving? 1639 01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Are you are you going to fly get into a 1640 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 1: studio Los Angeles on your brakes? I will, I gotta 1641 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,560 Speaker 1: say for some of my some of my brakes, I 1642 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: will be needing to go on vacation and not in 1643 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 1: a place that's lay Well, then what are we going 1644 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,640 Speaker 1: to do not have episode? We Well, we can do 1645 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,519 Speaker 1: what vacation? You can do? What Tony Newsom and entry 1646 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,200 Speaker 1: t do, which is they'll do it sort of, one 1647 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 1: of them will do it over a phone. Now I'm 1648 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,759 Speaker 1: not doing one of us. Sounds garbled. No, you should 1649 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:01,760 Speaker 1: find I figure at the studio because like you can 1650 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 1: do recordings, you can each go into like a studio 1651 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 1: and it sounds seamless. But there's something about and look, 1652 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,000 Speaker 1: this is it. This is this is testing, this is 1653 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,240 Speaker 1: this is needing to be in the room to book, 1654 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,760 Speaker 1: something about being in the same room as us when 1655 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,800 Speaker 1: we're with our guests. I'm telling you right now, I'm 1656 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 1: not doing a phone thing. You hear that, Tracy, I'm 1657 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,760 Speaker 1: not doing it, and Bowen will have to boone will 1658 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 1: have to um, okay, Tracy knows, Tracy will Tracy will 1659 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 1: propose something absolutely well. I guess we'll get a proposal 1660 01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 1: after this. But Bowen Yang does not need to go 1661 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,680 Speaker 1: on vacation for two weeks. During his breaks. He can 1662 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,400 Speaker 1: come for a little bit and then we can make 1663 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:43,519 Speaker 1: a compromise him. I've been yeah, whatever, you've been what 1664 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:47,320 Speaker 1: I've been working NonStop for the past. Then you can 1665 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:48,680 Speaker 1: go on. You can go on a five or six 1666 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,599 Speaker 1: day break and then one of them and then one 1667 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,799 Speaker 1: day you can come to Los Angeles and record episodes 1668 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 1: with me, but then we'd still be banking it Like 1669 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 1: this just still doesn't solve the problem, my problem. It 1670 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't be aggressive banking. It would be re record three 1671 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 1: episodes or so, and then by the time there's another break, 1672 01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,200 Speaker 1: then I go to New York and do it with you. 1673 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,759 Speaker 1: That's how that works. It's called compromise. There's something about 1674 01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,559 Speaker 1: like a culture podcast talking about culture that's happening as 1675 01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,640 Speaker 1: it happens, right, but what are you what? What is 1676 01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 1: the thing that you're expressing as the solution to this? 1677 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:27,599 Speaker 1: Honestly a supplement where you and I go on Instagram 1678 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:32,960 Speaker 1: Live together. That's not the podcast that's Instagram Live. So 1679 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,599 Speaker 1: it looks it feels like you are the one that's stopping, 1680 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,240 Speaker 1: or it feels like Joel has really thrown a fucking 1681 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:45,200 Speaker 1: wrench into this, and it's like, because I you know what, Joel, 1682 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,240 Speaker 1: maybe maybe because we'll both be in l A, we 1683 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:52,560 Speaker 1: can just do last culture together. Everyone and iron interchangeable. 1684 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god. The first night, the first night on 1685 01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 1: this Asian man a person of color has numerous literally 1686 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,200 Speaker 1: taught me on the shoulder while Bowen was stepped away 1687 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,200 Speaker 1: from me and said Bowen and I said no, and 1688 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 1: then he said Bowen Yang and I said no, and 1689 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,519 Speaker 1: then he said, yes, you are as though I were 1690 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: trying to be like demure and lie about my identity 1691 01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:18,920 Speaker 1: as bow and Yang and I said no, I'm not. 1692 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,920 Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, you look just like him, and 1693 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:27,679 Speaker 1: then walked away. Unbelievable, and then before a prominent Asian 1694 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:32,400 Speaker 1: person in the media, and yeah, you know, I need 1695 01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,720 Speaker 1: to apologize. I sent them a dressing down in an 1696 01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,519 Speaker 1: email that was wild. But what you should have done 1697 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,720 Speaker 1: is you should have turned him around and and and 1698 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 1: then he would have been like I should have said 1699 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 1: technical strange. Honestly I should I should have. I should 1700 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,679 Speaker 1: have been like, no, honey, that's bow and Yang. Yeah, 1701 01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,719 Speaker 1: that's who you. And then I would have without keeping 1702 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,759 Speaker 1: a beat, gone and that's Joel Kim Booster and bitch, 1703 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 1: who are you? Who are you? Oh my god, that 1704 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 1: would have hurt. I'm gonna say this, I give both 1705 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:09,439 Speaker 1: of you my blessing. Um, I want a stepping down. 1706 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: I just want to say to all the all the 1707 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 1: listeners out there, Bowen Yang would rather go on vacation 1708 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,960 Speaker 1: than make sure that he was here for the podcast 1709 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 1: with you. And that's literally what he's saying. He's saying, 1710 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,640 Speaker 1: candid over to Joe Kim, That's what he's saying. I 1711 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,880 Speaker 1: think I think it would it would be it would 1712 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 1: elevate the dialogue, it would elevate everything. Um, you know, 1713 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,280 Speaker 1: the public victim narrative here, we know being a victim, 1714 01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,280 Speaker 1: morose of it all, Bonnie, I don't like the energy 1715 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,479 Speaker 1: in this house at all. God, this dark energy. I 1716 01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 1: simply won't have the time because I will announce now 1717 01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:41,880 Speaker 1: because by the time this comes out, it will be 1718 01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 1: announced that Mitri, Joe, Harry and I are doing our 1719 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,439 Speaker 1: own podcast, Urgent Care. It is a colony of Vice show. 1720 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,600 Speaker 1: That's right, Joel and Mitra are on your Wolf. That 1721 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,800 Speaker 1: does not mean that you can't be on our pod, 1722 01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,160 Speaker 1: because I'll need to have episodes. I mean, the people 1723 01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,320 Speaker 1: need the episode. This is not for you, This is 1724 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 1: it's very much for me, I for your listenership. The 1725 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 1: co mingling extended universe of Elsie, which also reaches out 1726 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 1: into Earwolf territory as Elsie seek treatment. Is this racist 1727 01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 1: and soon or don't care? I think those the hosts, 1728 01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 1: they are going to be like just a little swinging 1729 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 1: doors for everybody. Tracy is making a face because we 1730 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,200 Speaker 1: all know it's not true. You are going to come 1731 01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 1: and record episodes of me or I'll come to you. 1732 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 1: That is what will happen. But we're still banking episodes. 1733 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:31,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter their episodes are good. It's Joel sam 1734 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 1: is stupid. Joel Joel so dumb. No, I mean you 1735 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 1: banked Betty Gilbin episode and it was very good. You 1736 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,400 Speaker 1: managed to get on top of Maryann like. Yes, we've 1737 01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:49,000 Speaker 1: been doing a great job except except what except except now? 1738 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,680 Speaker 1: But we're making it a point to release this. You 1739 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:56,960 Speaker 1: please watch Sunnyside tomorrow tomorrow night. Oh my god, it's nuts. 1740 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm actually scared because this is the first time I'll 1741 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,559 Speaker 1: be shooting something while it's airing, and I'm afraid. I'm 1742 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,040 Speaker 1: afraid that it will influence Well, don't watch it, That's 1743 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,400 Speaker 1: what I would say. That's what's ever watched yourself? Ever? Ever, 1744 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 1: you've never seen it. I don't know if I can 1745 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,880 Speaker 1: I know I can do that. I don't know if 1746 01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 1: I could have this. Yeah, I can do it. I 1747 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,439 Speaker 1: can do it, but I probably couldn't either. I'm too nice. 1748 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,920 Speaker 1: But you know what, don't look at like reviews or 1749 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 1: don't look at ratings. That'll be really hard. I'm gonna 1750 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,320 Speaker 1: have to stay off. If someone can tell you, like 1751 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,439 Speaker 1: to have me look it up for you. Okay, great, 1752 01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 1: I will. I will be happy to do. We close 1753 01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 1: every episode with a song. Yeah I'm tech mold the 1754 01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 1: number one September. It's been number one for four weeks. 1755 01:35:56,439 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 1: Mariah Carey found dead in a bit good Bye, Forever Dog. 1756 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 1: This has been a Forever Dog production, executive produced by 1757 01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Brett Bahum, Joe Silio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, 1758 01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:17,680 Speaker 1: please visit Forever Dog Podcasts dot com and subscribe to 1759 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,680 Speaker 1: our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get 1760 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 1: your podcasts. 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