Speaker 1: My question is I haven't found an adequate answer. So
Speaker 1: Trump's doing a lot of stuff, signing a lot of papers.
Speaker 1: What was stopping Biden from doing? Just this is my
Speaker 1: question ramming stuff through?
Speaker 2: Right, this is my question.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's a combination of like weakness and
Speaker 3: he doesn't actually want good stuff to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, he had the power to do plenty of stuff
Speaker 4: and he just didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he really was putting it out there like
Speaker 1: his fucking hands are tight. I'm like, well, I mean
Speaker 1: you could just sign a bunch of papers like this
Speaker 1: dude is doing and let the courts sort it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. His assertion would be if I do this, then
Speaker 4: we'll do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's it was like dumb on his face. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just the whole we go they go low, we
Speaker 2: go high. Yeah, miss Yeah, they're just like that is
Speaker 2: their entire philosophy.
Speaker 4: It's very frustrating where it's just.
Speaker 2: Like I thought the couldn't do shit. It's just why
Speaker 2: was he always throwing his hands? Yeah, that's it goes
Speaker 2: back to my theory that he just had a profound
Speaker 2: futility fetish Biden where like he he passes bills that
Speaker 2: then get shot down and then goes home and like
Speaker 2: Jack's off to that feeling somehow like that's that's what
Speaker 2: he's in it. Well, that's good stuff.
Speaker 4: Just justice theater.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that the results for Democrats speak
Speaker 3: for themselves is they don't actually want they want this also, yeah,
Speaker 3: or they don't mind some of the bad stuff and
Speaker 3: they like all the financial.
Speaker 2: Stuff, right yeah. So someone there's a tweet that was
Speaker 2: like I get to choose between the klu Klux Klan
Speaker 2: and Lockheed Martin every four years until the asteroid hits,
Speaker 2: and that does like what it is. I there is
Speaker 2: an aspect of the psychology of like, you know, being
Speaker 2: raised Catholic, Like I think like mel Gibson and Joe
Speaker 2: Biden both have this thing where like there's some honor
Speaker 2: and it's it's in. It's in like the Rocky movies too,
Speaker 2: where it's like the thing that is cool is like
Speaker 2: getting the ship kicked out of you, like that is
Speaker 2: somehow the honorable thing I was raised with that I like,
Speaker 2: you know, like Karate Kid is also this way. These
Speaker 2: stories were like how many times you get exactly and
Speaker 2: that to no effect, for no purpose, like I really
Speaker 2: like Rocky.
Speaker 4: You know they count the knot down in that's against you.
Speaker 2: Man, you're losing so bad on points like you're getting
Speaker 2: also like smoked, you then do have to wear it
Speaker 2: is it's a little thing, exactly.
Speaker 4: It's the number of times you get back off and
Speaker 4: then and.
Speaker 2: Then went yes exactly. But they have a loser mentality
Speaker 2: that is uh like hurting people. I just think he
Speaker 2: really like has that, like he thinks there's honor in
Speaker 2: doing what he perceives as the right honorable thing and
Speaker 2: fucking losing badly and being like, but I remember a
Speaker 2: time when I could have, you know, grab steak and
Speaker 2: eggs with Strom Thurman, and it's just like, well that's what, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's on you for you shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4: Liver and onions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Strom had liver and onions. Joe. Joe was
Speaker 2: always the steak and eggs, carried it in his lunch
Speaker 2: pail on the fucking train. It was cold by the
Speaker 2: time it got there. Yeah, I don't know. I I
Speaker 2: truly think there's like something I keep talking about his
Speaker 2: futility fetish, and I I think like there's something to it,
Speaker 2: like legit that there's like something about getting the ship
Speaker 2: beat out of you, and like the way that some
Speaker 2: versions of Catholicism like interpret, uh, you know the story
Speaker 2: of Jesus that like really fetishizes that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it was bad to worship a guy who
Speaker 1: got his ass completely handed to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, there are different parts that you
Speaker 2: can focus on. But if your main focus is the
Speaker 2: getting your ass handed to him, and you make a
Speaker 2: movie that is two hours of him just getting whipped
Speaker 2: brutally and like that is the meaning of his life
Speaker 2: for you as far as you're concerned, then yeah, it's
Speaker 2: gonna send you down some weird paths.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because people.
Speaker 1: Really do focus on the torture aspect instead of like
Speaker 1: the cool stuff like like.
Speaker 4: The wine thing water taking.
Speaker 5: The end of his life, like if the yeah, philosophy
Speaker 5: is a foot.
Speaker 3: Until you shoot the moon via divine magic, Like yeah,
Speaker 3: where where does the bad ship?
Speaker 2: Because we talking about crypto now, Brian, We're always talking
Speaker 2: about crypto. Hello the Internet and welcome to this week
Speaker 2: trend edition of at Least Guys Stay of iHeart Radio. Yes,
Speaker 2: very precise my mic sounds Nights. I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 2: joined in this episode. In Air miles seat by a
Speaker 2: very funny TV writer and producer the host of the
Speaker 2: Josas Racist podcast. It's Andrew Up, oh Man. So good,
Speaker 2: so good, so good.
Speaker 4: Life is going good. World good.
Speaker 2: Let's just go with that. Let's just say every day
Speaker 2: everything good.
Speaker 4: At least we got a little rain in La.
Speaker 2: We did get a little rain. Uh, that's my underrate
Speaker 2: it is we needed it so bad, didn't and we
Speaker 2: needed it.
Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna We're just our city government is
Speaker 3: simply not gonna tell us how much toxic sludge the
Speaker 3: rain generated.
Speaker 4: A toxic sludges. Yeah, how toxic is it? It can't
Speaker 4: be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The the air is so clear now, which is
Speaker 2: so very very nice after you know, the wildfires to
Speaker 2: to be able to like see hills and you know,
Speaker 2: plant things that were you know, you you had to
Speaker 2: squinch to even know we're there for a while now.
Speaker 2: But that does beg the question where'd all that stuff go?
Speaker 2: Those in the air before? And it's on the ground
Speaker 2: and on the ground and the water. Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: guess it's like it's just fucked up. Best case scenario
Speaker 2: where in the water. Best case scenario means in the ocean, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 4: Probably, yeah, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew, this is the episode where we tell
Speaker 2: people what was trending over the weekend. But first we
Speaker 2: let them get to know us a little bit better
Speaker 2: by telling them something we think is overrated, something we
Speaker 2: think is underrated. Why don't I start us off with
Speaker 2: something I think is overrated. I just heard that. I
Speaker 2: hadn't heard this in a while, but I heard somebody
Speaker 2: say it's best thing since sliced bread this morning, and
Speaker 2: in the context of our recent discussion on processed food, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that one hits different. I'm gonna say, because I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's it's just the go to, you know, exhibit for
Speaker 2: greatest invention? Why did people not have?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 2: I have so many knives now, not to brag, but
Speaker 2: like I got sore. I can. I can slice the
Speaker 2: fuck out of bread, and you know, I try to
Speaker 2: buy loaves of bread that yeah, like the whole ass
Speaker 2: loaves of bread like a fucking g And I don't know, like,
Speaker 2: so the efficiency not it's not that much more efficient.
Speaker 2: My number of knives I have my knife drawers overwhelming.
Speaker 2: In many cases, the only way it's scientifically possible to
Speaker 2: have sliced bread that's not like hardened into a series
Speaker 2: of like monoliths, is with loads of ultra processed I was.
Speaker 3: Gonna say that that is probably the the actual innovation
Speaker 3: of slice bread has to be like preservatives.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, they didn't. It's not just somebody thought of
Speaker 2: cutting the bread. It's like somebody invented a chemical that
Speaker 2: you could put on the bread to make it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like being like the best best invention since pre
Speaker 2: rolled cigarettes started taking us to flavor town. All right,
Speaker 2: I mean I.
Speaker 3: Get if you don't have the preservatives, you get a
Speaker 3: feastables just mold all the way up and down.
Speaker 4: That's right, Dale is the best case scenario, right exactly.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I I do love a nice
Speaker 2: whole loaf of bread, take it home, put it in
Speaker 2: a a big bag, and uh it usually stays push
Speaker 2: for like a few days.
Speaker 4: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: My my overrated is eating healthy because I bought myself
Speaker 3: a loaf of wonderbread this last week. Can I just
Speaker 3: tell you, as a grown ass man who is mostly
Speaker 3: spent his recent year and a.
Speaker 4: Half try to eat well, wonderbread is so good.
Speaker 2: It's so fucking good. It's incredible. It's so wild. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was, I was talking you. I tried. I had
Speaker 2: a crustable for the first time the other day, and
Speaker 2: it's basically like wonderbread turned into a hot pocket.
Speaker 3: Crustaball is It's like a peanut butter jelly inside.
Speaker 4: Of of like a white bread, a white.
Speaker 2: Bread like strudle, you know, like maybe yeah, just a
Speaker 2: giant white wonder bread ravioli. And I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: this is The texture of the bread is so pillowy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I guess it's just like white
Speaker 3: people bow or like right, yeah, because it's that it's
Speaker 3: all the stuff.
Speaker 4: It's like bleached flour.
Speaker 3: It's a little sweet or a lot sweet in case
Speaker 3: of across the balls, and it's just like a like
Speaker 3: a thing you can kind of hold your hand.
Speaker 4: That is like, oh my god. Can I just say
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: Probably see this on a cooking YouTube somewhere, but my
Speaker 3: pro tip for making a sandwich with wonderbread.
Speaker 4: You can't toast in the toaster. I mean you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't do this by toasting the toaster, but use
Speaker 3: a skillet to toast only one side of.
Speaker 2: It, Okay, just one side in butter or you're just
Speaker 2: like putting it raw. I was.
Speaker 3: I was not like wiping out my cast iron super efficiently.
Speaker 3: So there was kind of just the residual seasoning of
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck, but I didn't add extra fat. But
Speaker 3: basically having one crispy side of the bread and one
Speaker 3: like wonderful hilloy side, so fucking good, My god, crust
Speaker 3: goes out, which so like it's basically like goes inside
Speaker 3: crusty side goes inside crusty. You use that as the
Speaker 3: basis for like your mayonnaise or your you know, mustards
Speaker 3: or whatever normal sandwich, and then so outside you get
Speaker 3: like super super pillowy. But then when your teeth go in,
Speaker 3: you find a crunch in the middle.
Speaker 2: Well, people probably didn't know they were getting one of
Speaker 2: like a point counterpoint crossfire style show today. But my
Speaker 2: overrated as sliced bread, you're underrated is wonderbread. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: and we solved it. I think I think you're right
Speaker 2: and I'm wrong. But maybe I just feel like we
Speaker 2: need a better like exhibit A for great innovations. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's more your point.
Speaker 3: Also silly to I mean, look, it's gonna be the
Speaker 3: great innovation is gonna be once again the polio vaccine
Speaker 3: in about fucking five years. The once we have a
Speaker 3: generation of children fucking nimed by polio, we're gonna want
Speaker 3: the vaccine again allegedly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see he's getting confirmed or I don't know, maybe not,
Speaker 2: he's getting examined. Uh yeah, you know he's got his
Speaker 2: confirmation hearing this week. RFK. We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 2: As we talked about last time with Pete Hegseth, where
Speaker 2: everyone was like this guy's there's got no chance. It's
Speaker 2: like literally almost everybody makes it through. Like everybody gets through.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's this this is sort of baked
Speaker 3: into the election, like like it's it's gonna happen. It
Speaker 3: doesn't really matter. I mean it does, but it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter more than what already happened. I guess, like it's
Speaker 3: it's just like like we're you know where we're finally
Speaker 3: cashing in. You know, all the Supreme Court decisions for
Speaker 3: the next like our lifetimes, they were determined like five
Speaker 3: years ago, so it feels bad to watch them incoming.
Speaker 3: But it's not time to fight. Time to fight will
Speaker 3: have been a decade or more ago, and we lost
Speaker 3: the fight.
Speaker 2: We lost the fight.
Speaker 4: We're losing. Yeah, it's a new fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, America doesn't doesn't like to admit that, but yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah what is Let's see, what's something you think is?
Speaker 2: So you've given me you're underrated? Do you have something
Speaker 2: you thinks overrated?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I guess this is going to not sound well,
Speaker 3: I'll just put it as classic movies. I know, overrated
Speaker 3: even me as an old person. Yeah, I know, like whatever,
Speaker 3: my attention span is as not obviously as cooked as
Speaker 3: you're average gen zer. But it's not great. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't like I think to me, the biggest example
Speaker 3: is when I watch No, well no, I'm worried.
Speaker 4: I said this on the show already.
Speaker 3: But I watched Star Wars with some like, you know,
Speaker 3: normal children, none of my friend's kids, and watching their
Speaker 3: eyes glaze over at the pace of Star Wars, which
Speaker 3: when I was growing up is not only to me,
Speaker 3: was the most thrilling thing possible. When it came out,
Speaker 3: people were like, this is the death of cinema. People
Speaker 3: won't be able to like understand anything anymore. And like
Speaker 3: Star Wars has multiple boardroom scenes like a New Hope.
Speaker 2: Yes, somebody gets force choked in a couple of them, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, sure there is like an ending, but it
Speaker 5: really mostly is fucking like fifteen hockeys sitting around a
Speaker 5: long table arguing.
Speaker 2: You're like, this is crazy, and next the kids are
Speaker 2: going to want to see procedures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm just saying, like, obviously it would be
Speaker 3: nicer if everyone was smarter. But I do think just
Speaker 3: like our brains are processing everything differently and nothing is classic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the I I talked about this a lot when
Speaker 2: I was like, there's that thing, the Flynn effect, where
Speaker 2: like you know, IQ studies are bullshit and you know,
Speaker 2: not a good normative judgment or objective judgment of like
Speaker 2: any anything of value. But I do think it's interesting
Speaker 2: that they were like going up for decades and decades
Speaker 2: just to cross like in every country, they were just
Speaker 2: like going up and up and up. And I always
Speaker 2: thought like there was something with how much more complicated
Speaker 2: the field of information is that like people have to
Speaker 2: deal with and like you can kind of see it
Speaker 2: in old media when you like watch The Godfather, and
Speaker 2: like they felt like they needed to show somebody walking
Speaker 2: down a hallway to get to the room where they
Speaker 2: were going for you to understand like how they got
Speaker 2: there or something right, or like you watch old movie
Speaker 2: trailers and they like have to tell you the whole story,
Speaker 2: like just like hold your hands through it and just
Speaker 2: be like, this is John McClain. He is the New
Speaker 2: York cop who's having a bad day. Here he is
Speaker 2: in California.
Speaker 3: Every every movie trailer used to be the log line
Speaker 3: or not the log line, the outline of the av
Speaker 3: act one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like fully everything until right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just had to hold your hand all the
Speaker 2: way through it. I feel like there's yeah, like some
Speaker 2: of the stuff that was treated as like schlock, Like
Speaker 2: when I was young, people were like real worried about
Speaker 2: MTV editing and like Michael Bay like having to cut
Speaker 2: a thousand times per second. Yeah, and it's just like yeah,
Speaker 2: but like that becomes a part of people's visual like
Speaker 2: vocabulary and they have to they like learn to process
Speaker 2: that really really quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's just people are better at processing complicated information.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know that it's done us much good,
Speaker 2: but uh, well, before it's all tied in together, we're.
Speaker 3: Better at perceiving lots of information of low complexity. We're
Speaker 3: better at perceiving information in a complicated way, I would say,
Speaker 3: and work the processing complicated stuff.
Speaker 2: Definitely not better at getting to the truth in any way, yeah,
Speaker 2: but better at reading what is there? I think, reading
Speaker 2: someone's intent or something yeah, yeah, yeah, or like.
Speaker 3: I got it, I got it, what's I got? Let's go,
Speaker 3: what's the next thing. I mean, I don't think it's
Speaker 3: like inherently bad. Maybe yeah, I don't think evidence the
Speaker 3: evidence actually is that it is inherently bad in a
Speaker 3: way that we can't perceive, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's people being like, yeah, I get it,
Speaker 2: And now let's move on to you telling me why
Speaker 2: nine to eleven was an inside job because I need
Speaker 2: like another hit of something, you know.
Speaker 3: I guess it's just corruptible and everything has to become
Speaker 3: a like like an not an argument from authority. But
Speaker 3: just like when you have so many conflicting things, all
Speaker 3: you can do is use like gravitas, not gravitas, but
Speaker 3: trust ability or you know, something like the reason, yeah,
Speaker 3: the reason Elon Musk has people who believe everything he
Speaker 3: says is because he had a track record in one thing.
Speaker 4: Whether that track record is fake, it's fake, but like,
Speaker 4: it's it's.
Speaker 3: Wild that, like I guess to me maybe because I
Speaker 3: I like like to me, Joe Rogan is probably the
Speaker 3: pinnacle of this because as a like, like I actually
Speaker 3: like jiu jitsu, I like em man. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 3: absolutely correct about those things and.
Speaker 2: And their way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's so like it's frustrating watch watching
Speaker 3: this guy who's like really good about whether or not
Speaker 3: this is a good like you know, it's it's easy
Speaker 3: to advance your your position in wrestling from here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Watching that guy opine about science in general or like
Speaker 3: how society should be structured is wild because I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he using the same tone of voice, you sound the same,
Speaker 3: and you are right about thing A.
Speaker 4: Sure you're so wrong about thing B.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like I think that is unfortunately we
Speaker 3: just have to shorthand everything, and our algorithms are exploitable,
Speaker 3: and they're being exploited.
Speaker 2: And they're just pursuing the most interesting thing that they
Speaker 2: can find in the moment, the thing that's light up
Speaker 2: the brain, regardless of truth. And so that's yeah, he's
Speaker 2: just sitting there just being like that's interesting, man. That's yeah,
Speaker 2: because don't tell you about that.
Speaker 5: I heard that's been proven, right, all right, hard turn
Speaker 5: my underrated.
Speaker 2: This is very very loose, very loosely researched. But so
Speaker 2: my kid was asking about a camping trip that we
Speaker 2: took from a couple of years ago where there were
Speaker 2: like no real activities. Like the plan was like camp outside.
Speaker 2: It was too cold, so we stayed in what looked
Speaker 2: like just a random suburban house, but like it was
Speaker 2: a big you know, it was a cub Scout troops,
Speaker 2: so it was like a big group of people staying
Speaker 2: in like tons of bunk beds, big common room, just
Speaker 2: a bunch of people in a big house in not
Speaker 2: even really the woods, but like just playing board games
Speaker 2: and like making dinner together. And he brings this up.
Speaker 2: We've gone camping since then, like on you know, with
Speaker 2: like had like really cool proper camping experiences in nature,
Speaker 2: and he like brings that one up repeatedly, and I
Speaker 2: was like, that's weird that he's so into that one.
Speaker 2: And I remember, so I was like thinking about when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, like my eighth grade class did
Speaker 2: a like end of year lock in where like everybody
Speaker 2: like stayed at school like overnight, like everybody just had
Speaker 2: like a big sleepover, Like we had church overnights. Like
Speaker 2: the place I least wanted to be in the universe
Speaker 2: was ever like church church stuff. But like these overnights
Speaker 2: are like a you know, fun memory from when I
Speaker 2: was a kids. And when you read like deep like
Speaker 2: the big history books, they're like, yeah, that's actually the
Speaker 2: natural way. Like we want to be around people. It's
Speaker 2: not natural to just be like closed off in your
Speaker 2: nuclear family and you know, oh, you know, like being
Speaker 2: in a big group with like big room with a
Speaker 2: bunch of people, like making food together and like everybody's
Speaker 2: just like kind of you know, sharing parenting and just
Speaker 2: you know that I don't know. In addition to the
Speaker 2: the children marve the commmar is the watch Midsommary. I
Speaker 2: still but yeah, I'm saying that children crave the communes.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it. Yeah, it sounds it sounds like
Speaker 2: it's right up my alley.
Speaker 4: Just just have your kids watch it.
Speaker 3: You got to stop it probably forty five minutes, but
Speaker 3: you're gonna love the first part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I do need to watch that. It's on
Speaker 2: my list. It's just every time it's time to watch it.
Speaker 2: I'm like two and a half hours for really it's
Speaker 2: it's it's a pleasant Yeah, well now I'm sold.
Speaker 4: It's good.
Speaker 2: It's just pretty like yeah, yeah, this is like the
Speaker 2: fourth time somebody's brought up Midsommer to me in the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks. So this is but this is
Speaker 2: my sign to watch it, mainly because I keep trying
Speaker 2: to start a commune. So yeah, yeah, I think why
Speaker 2: people are bringing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like you're you're like big, you're
Speaker 3: great hall, great hall life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, longhouse, Let's let's get a long house that you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, you're gonna love the first thirty five minutes
Speaker 3: of Midsummer.
Speaker 2: This works, This is great. Yeah, so that's my underrated
Speaker 2: is all right bretted movies.
Speaker 3: Hey, listen, society is on a path where we might
Speaker 3: not have a choice.
Speaker 2: We're gonna need to find something else. That's it feels
Speaker 2: like we're going to need to find something.
Speaker 3: Find your community, find the people that will protect you,
Speaker 3: and gather them into a big house.
Speaker 2: That might be where we're headed. All right, let's take
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about
Speaker 2: some news. And we're back and as we are recording this,
Speaker 2: the stock market is having a bad day, and Andrew,
Speaker 2: you hate to see that that's our number one.
Speaker 4: Value tragically being lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in line with our overall theory that like every
Speaker 2: time something good for people happens, like the stock market
Speaker 2: goes down and when they're like we're actually firing half
Speaker 2: the US workforce, Yeah, stock market goes up. It's like
Speaker 2: a great inverse indicator of how like people's lives are.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're I guess there can probably
Speaker 3: be edge cases or different ways. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 3: a different economy.
Speaker 4: And the globe is the globe.
Speaker 3: But like that was the only thing that got Berlasconi
Speaker 3: out as he finally tanked the Italian economy.
Speaker 4: Like you could do all the other shit. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in post twentieth century, it might be that the
Speaker 3: only way to get a fascist out of power is
Speaker 3: to tech stockmarks of the people who are propping them up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean, people are so concerned about the price
Speaker 2: of eggs, man, those are just getting worse. They're going
Speaker 2: the direction of fucking Diama, Like they're yeah.
Speaker 3: Just to fucking by the way, get it, get some
Speaker 3: chickens full exactly.
Speaker 2: That really feels like the choice that a lot of
Speaker 2: people are gonna make. But of course then you'll kind
Speaker 2: of be giving off communist vibes. You know, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonn get some chickens for your commune. But so, the
Speaker 2: reason some stocks of the US are having a tough
Speaker 2: day is and it's specifically tech stocks. After after all,
Speaker 2: the tech billionaires showed up to kiss Trump's ass at
Speaker 2: the inauguration, You really, you really hate to see them
Speaker 2: have such tough day. Because a Chinese company released an
Speaker 2: AI product called deep Seek last week end of last week,
Speaker 2: like on Friday, and it is basically as good as
Speaker 2: chat GPT but way less expensive, and they developed it
Speaker 2: for six million dollars on some Austin powers shit like
Speaker 2: six million dollars, like literally, the like the AI experts
Speaker 2: that they interviewed are like, that's a fucking it's a
Speaker 2: joke of a budget bro like that. They're so mad
Speaker 2: that that's how much they sunk into research. But the
Speaker 2: way they did it was they made an open source.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's also probably just knowing China I speak
Speaker 3: with no information outside of this, but there's a world
Speaker 3: where it's being propped up by Chinese government money that's
Speaker 3: not being reported. But even so, yeah, like listen, I
Speaker 3: of all people love like a Chinese knockoff of an
Speaker 3: overinflated American thing, right, So this fucking rules to me. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 3: it rules for AI, which I hate, Yes, exactly, legend Ai.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so there's just a lot of people
Speaker 2: freaking out about you know what this means for AI
Speaker 2: if they can like catch up to these companies that
Speaker 2: are like just shoveling hundreds of millions of dollars into
Speaker 2: the like research furnace every year and like in no
Speaker 2: way remotely profitable, and then another country like doesn't have
Speaker 2: all the you know, copyright laws and you know secrecy
Speaker 2: of the US tech industry can come in and compete
Speaker 2: with it. I think people are kind of shitting their
Speaker 2: pants a little bit. To your point. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of people are. I've been. I think it's a
Speaker 2: combination of this and red note. A lot of people
Speaker 2: are like, and this just goes to prove China better
Speaker 2: in every way they fucking eradicated poverty. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean authoritarian country there's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's listen.
Speaker 3: It's more just like I think it's like the curtain
Speaker 3: on what the US actually is is being pulled back
Speaker 3: for more people.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think.
Speaker 3: So, It's like it's not that like China is making
Speaker 3: relative gains. It's just that, like the perception is China's
Speaker 3: making huge gains because America is being revealed for how
Speaker 3: like actually shitty and inequitable and plugging all of authoritarian
Speaker 3: that it is is. So it's like, yeah, there's relatively
Speaker 3: little desire to move from the US to China, and
Speaker 3: as opposed to vice versa, a lot of that is marketing.
Speaker 4: But we'll see how the world goes.
Speaker 2: Ye, see how the world goes, Yes, we will. I
Speaker 2: think there's going to be like as people face a
Speaker 2: more realistic comparison between the two countries and as people
Speaker 2: become more disillusioned with America, I feel like it's gonna
Speaker 2: be it's gonna be an interesting time on the internet.
Speaker 2: I don't know what, you know, Like, yeah, the Cold
Speaker 2: War really drove both the US and Russia pretty yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, one thing that is a little insane not
Speaker 3: this is me speaking in a completely self interested place. However,
Speaker 3: like the one place that the US is actively like
Speaker 3: innovating and the unquestioned world leader is fucking Hollywood, and
Speaker 3: not Hollywood as an entertainment, but Hollywood is in a
Speaker 3: propaganda machine, and it is honestly wild that both the
Speaker 3: recent governments have kind of decided to let Hollywood die
Speaker 3: because Hollywood's the only like uniquely I mean, I guess
Speaker 3: they would say Silicon Valley, but guess what. Look, it's
Speaker 3: not like Hollywood is the place where the US unquestionably
Speaker 3: rules the globe and we're electing to let that soft
Speaker 3: power just evaporate for.
Speaker 4: No good reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah there mean to uh Donald Trump, So that's a
Speaker 2: good reason, yeah, Joe Biden, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Like it's like, you know, just truly thinking, even as
Speaker 3: a full US imperialist, I don't understand why you wouldn't
Speaker 3: prop up Hollywood. That's the one thing that lets you
Speaker 3: the US be perceived as the superpower.
Speaker 2: There should be a new top Gun movie every six
Speaker 2: month months, okay, yeah, yeah, just anything.
Speaker 3: It's just like like America's the is the norm culturally
Speaker 3: because of Hollywood, yeah, or like everyone knows American norms, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And this is me speaking as an evil person.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like if you're going to be an evil country,
Speaker 2: that is like it's important to you to uphold your
Speaker 2: place as like a you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, you would keep your iron grip on the
Speaker 3: world's media.
Speaker 2: The myth that your entire ship is based on you.
Speaker 2: You should maybe upkeep that, but not so much. Instead,
Speaker 2: they're yeah, kind of taking that for granted and going
Speaker 2: hard in the other direction. What what new levels of
Speaker 2: fucking dystopia are being invented on a daily basis? Uh,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the fact that ice raids are now
Speaker 2: being live streamed by fucking doctor Phil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this.
Speaker 2: Just came like there ever tizing this on X so
Speaker 2: it's like just showed up in my feed that like, hey,
Speaker 2: doctor Phil has a live stream of what's going on
Speaker 2: in Chicago. Uh, and he thinks it's good.
Speaker 3: This is this by the way, I am as as
Speaker 3: this episode comes out. I am in the midst of
Speaker 3: being a marathon guest on Behind the Bastards about Oprah,
Speaker 3: and this truly is Oprah has some splaighton to do,
Speaker 3: like why did you put this man into the national spotlight?
Speaker 2: He's yeah, he seems it seems bad. It seems bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's bad. And then there's doctor Phil
Speaker 2: partners with America's Gestapo bad. Yeah, and we are at
Speaker 2: that second level. As ICE continues to arrest and deport
Speaker 2: hundreds of people, Doctor Phil is tagging along and live
Speaker 2: streaming arrests while serving as a vocal propagandist for the
Speaker 2: border Czar Homan home man, home o man.
Speaker 4: Let's call him that. Sorry, I said that too, man too.
Speaker 3: I will also just say there was no reason in
Speaker 3: the last four years ICE needed to have this budget.
Speaker 3: Have these specific fascists still employed for them? Right, if
Speaker 3: we truly were quote unquote resisting fascism under Democrats, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're still here.
Speaker 4: They've been running camps.
Speaker 3: All the fucking dickheads that are leaping to do this
Speaker 3: could have been fired, but they weren't.
Speaker 2: So well, what Biden's supposed to do is hands are tied.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, right, he's.
Speaker 4: His hands are tied.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's him wanting that's sort of a sub situation.
Speaker 2: Yes, I really do believe that. But yeah, so he's
Speaker 2: bragging about how they were after two hundred high value
Speaker 2: targets in Chicago. The whole thing was streamed on his
Speaker 2: Merit TV platform, and he's treating it as like, all right,
Speaker 2: we've got our knock list, you know, like it's like
Speaker 2: mission impossible, and he's he's got his list of dangerous
Speaker 2: men that he's helping them go after except for the
Speaker 2: fact that Trump has given them daily quotas of deportations.
Speaker 2: So Matt Iglesias was on that Ezra Cline podcast, Uh and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly what a phrase.
Speaker 2: Yes, And he was basically saying, like, so this is
Speaker 2: a thing like in watching the way that the supposedly
Speaker 2: like liberal uh media is not up to the task
Speaker 2: of resisting this. Like one of the things that keeps
Speaker 2: chopping out to me is like they know how to
Speaker 2: criticize somebody for being bad or like inefficient, but they
Speaker 2: like can't do a moral critique like they because that's
Speaker 2: not both sides in it. So like he was basically like,
Speaker 2: by the way, like they're not even good at deporting,
Speaker 2: Like he's putting up the same numbers as Biden, Like
Speaker 2: on average, he's at four oh eight deportation Biden was
Speaker 2: at four ten. And apparently that logic reached the Trump
Speaker 2: administration because Trump officials are now being like, we need
Speaker 2: to get those numbers up to one thy two hundred
Speaker 2: to one thousand, five hundred.
Speaker 3: But also crucially like it's like this thing of like, yes,
Speaker 3: Trump is absolutely worse, but like just remember and like
Speaker 3: despair that Biden wanted to be as bad, right, Biden, Again,
Speaker 3: this is not like helpful especially, but like almost everything
Speaker 3: that you and I and listeners and good people think
Speaker 3: is a bad thing that Trump will do, Biden did
Speaker 3: some version of that.
Speaker 2: Right, just inefficiently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like slightly or you know, slightly nicer about it,
Speaker 3: with more women and like rainbow flags and fucking people
Speaker 3: of color doing the fascism. So like, I don't want
Speaker 3: to I'm not downplaying how bad Trump is, but it
Speaker 3: is like very depressing how much Biden was also doing
Speaker 3: this shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. And just in terms of like the
Speaker 2: media's kind of how they're covering this, it feels like
Speaker 2: they're still trying to like spot the lie, which doesn't
Speaker 2: work when you're dealing with like an authoritarian leader who
Speaker 2: tells you the awful thing he's going to do and
Speaker 2: then like does it. They're like they still feel like
Speaker 2: they have to be like and yeah, there's also alec
Speaker 2: Herritt Sanez was pointing out, like there's this New York
Speaker 2: Times article that was like Trump's policies are actually more
Speaker 2: popular than he is, and like it was like this
Speaker 2: really specifically worded. I think we're going to get into
Speaker 2: it on tomorrow's episode.
Speaker 3: Well, right, because it's it's like like when you aggregate
Speaker 3: approval ratings, like a bunch of shit that Trump is
Speaker 3: doing baseline like normal stuff, like you know, I don't
Speaker 3: even know what the specifics are, but like you know,
Speaker 3: let's just the big something big, like he's not eliminating
Speaker 3: Social Security completely immediately, people like yes, I like that,
Speaker 3: or like like just like not touching stuff that doesn't
Speaker 3: need to be touched.
Speaker 4: Of course that's more popular.
Speaker 3: That's not a Trump policy, that's just a default of
Speaker 3: the US government, right right, And it's just like it's
Speaker 3: happening in the background. So yeah, I guess if you
Speaker 3: add up all the numbers and control yourself, then sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: That feels like that's what they adding up the number
Speaker 2: like it cover everything, like sports, like not just elections,
Speaker 2: like everything. When you remove morality from the equation, that's
Speaker 2: just what you get two sides trying to execute better
Speaker 2: than the other. And if you cover it as such,
Speaker 2: it's just going like you don't really have anything to
Speaker 2: say when the dictator comes to power. And is just
Speaker 2: like I'm about to do this bad thing, and there
Speaker 2: I did it, and they're like, actually, you didn't like
Speaker 2: do it that hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well they're also like they're they're not covering.
Speaker 3: They're covering the sport as defined by what they think
Speaker 3: government is as opposed to what it actually is. Right,
Speaker 3: Like government is doing is you know, taking our money
Speaker 3: and doing good or bad with it, and that's not
Speaker 3: what they're talking about, partially because every government is just
Speaker 3: doing a combination of good and bad in more bad
Speaker 3: than I would like proportions. Yeah, so it's just like, well, okay,
Speaker 3: you can you can say Democrats and Republicans are like
Speaker 3: playing a game on deportations. But it's like why is
Speaker 3: any of this right? Yeah, Like that's it's not a
Speaker 3: good thing. So it doesn't matter who's doing a better
Speaker 3: or worse job on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk tomorrow about the like Colombian tariff threats
Speaker 2: from Trump and like that. Yeah, I'm just seeing people
Speaker 2: cover it as like and Trump identified the leverage point
Speaker 2: that he had and like got them to back down,
Speaker 2: like just talking about it again, like it's fucking jiu
Speaker 2: jitsu or some shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also it's like, you know, he's been given
Speaker 3: control of like most like there's for all you gamers
Speaker 3: out there, like just the most ope build possible. Right,
Speaker 3: It's just like, oh, oh cool, you want this is
Speaker 3: like a fucking like giving your five year old like
Speaker 3: all the all the fucking points and you're just.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, okay, sure you want who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But they are, they seem impressed, just like
Speaker 2: they will give him the win. Is like my issue.
Speaker 2: It seems like they're willing to give him the win,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I'm just a little bit surprised
Speaker 2: at how quickly they've gotten on board with the whole
Speaker 2: kind of authoritarian project that's happening. All right, let's take
Speaker 2: a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about movies
Speaker 2: and some some other bullshit that's not America's slide into fascism.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back and we're back. And uh, Andrew,
Speaker 2: did you see the number one movie in America this
Speaker 2: past weekend? Flight Risk?
Speaker 4: My god, I'm actually surprised that this is number one.
Speaker 4: Can I just.
Speaker 3: Say, as someone who is a fucking dickhead who sees
Speaker 3: too many movies, January is are considered like the worst.
Speaker 4: Time this is a good January.
Speaker 3: Like, there's some pretty good movies out right now in
Speaker 3: a way that like.
Speaker 4: This should not. This is fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: It made twelve million dollars, so it was it was
Speaker 2: a like very slow week end of the box office.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go see no for nos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe it got stiffed on. I mean
Speaker 2: it got like three technical awards, but I would yeah,
Speaker 2: what a fight director or something. Just nobody gives a ship.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about the Academy Awards as a listen, given
Speaker 3: the way the nominations went, I'm picking my word, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It's it's not a to think of it this way.
Speaker 3: I guess it's like this is a popular vote in
Speaker 3: a small, relatively insular community and no one has time
Speaker 3: to see every movie, and I'll just believe it at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. But unfortunately this movie was
Speaker 2: not eligible. Unclear if it would have gotten any Academy
Speaker 2: attention this year, but it uh, this is they like
Speaker 2: I talked about, I think my overrated from a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago was just the decision to like show his
Speaker 2: like hat Wig come off. Did you see the trailer
Speaker 2: for this It's like such a wild moment, like it's
Speaker 2: something that we've only seen in like like slapstick comedies before.
Speaker 4: Listen. I probably. I guess the reason I.
Speaker 3: Didn't see it this weekend is I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to fucking give Mel Gibson any money.
Speaker 4: And Mark Wahlberg personally, however, it does look kind of
Speaker 4: not good.
Speaker 2: It doesn't kind of it looks insane. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: got a C Cinema score from audiences. To put that
Speaker 2: in perspective, Cat's got a C plus.
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming I actually don't know enough about the
Speaker 3: movie to know how it's extremely right wing, given that
Speaker 3: Mel Gibson directed it, But I'm assuming there's some versions.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some stuff in there. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I'm pleasantly ish surprised that. I mean, I guess Mark
Speaker 3: Wahlberg is the villain, but I'm I'm the prisoner or
Speaker 3: whatever is a white guy in to for Grace, So yeah.
Speaker 2: That's true. I don't know Charles Gruden the Midnight Run.
Speaker 3: If we're just broadly speaking about movies. This weekend, I
Speaker 3: saw the presence or presence the Soderbergh Ghost Movie.
Speaker 4: From the perspective of ghost and my my POV.
Speaker 2: You're a good but it's actually from the point of
Speaker 2: view of a ghost.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I know I'm old, but the change of
Speaker 3: the meaning of POV is one of the wildest things.
Speaker 3: It means not right, like as far as I can now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well now it means you're through the point of view
Speaker 3: or you're viewing a and those are largely almost diametric opposites, right, exactly,
Speaker 3: Like the only other option for a camera is to
Speaker 3: be looking at neither, and that then is just weird.
Speaker 3: What I will say about presence, I just wanted to
Speaker 3: say this officially on some podcast somewhere, so you're the
Speaker 3: first opportunity for me to say this out loud.
Speaker 4: I like the movie enough.
Speaker 3: It's wild that Lucy Lou keeps his shoes on household
Speaker 3: and I will fucking die on that.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little ambiguous. And then there's a wide
Speaker 3: shot and I'm like, those fucking Chinese kids have their
Speaker 3: shoes and the fucking rug.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's happening. Yeah, it feels after like, you know,
Speaker 2: my wife is Korean, my wife, sorry, is Korean, and
Speaker 2: we've been shoes off household as long as we've lived
Speaker 2: together and going back to a shoes on household feels
Speaker 2: so wild.
Speaker 4: It feels like disgusting. Yeah, it feels.
Speaker 2: Like it feels disrespectful to I'm like, I can't, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take my shoes off.
Speaker 4: That's just how I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I otherwise, you know, I like the movie, but uh,
Speaker 3: come on, come on, Hollywood, the fuck is happening here? Yes,
Speaker 3: it is surprising, like the fact that they got Mark
Speaker 3: Wahlberg to and I haven't seen the movie, so maybe
Speaker 3: there's a twist, but the fact that they got him
Speaker 3: to not be the good guy who saves the day
Speaker 3: on a plane like when he's so clearly you know
Speaker 3: this nine to eleven commentary is if I was there,
Speaker 3: wouldn't have gone down like that?
Speaker 4: Just I mean, I know, imagine.
Speaker 3: I imagine that Mel Gibson does not have the sense
Speaker 3: of humor. But if there was someone funnier helming this,
Speaker 3: who could get Mark Karburk to say, it wouldn't have
Speaker 3: gone down like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the movie going down like that. I'm here
Speaker 2: and it's not going down like that. He also got
Speaker 2: again a thing that we were talking about possibly in
Speaker 2: the cold open. It's just Mel Gibson's weird. Oh sure,
Speaker 2: futility fetish like violence, weird interpreted like focus on the
Speaker 2: you know, Jesus getting the shit kicked out of a
Speaker 2: version of Catholicism.
Speaker 3: That I was like, I literally was about to ask
Speaker 3: you what is that called?
Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, it's the passion of
Speaker 4: the movie.
Speaker 2: But he went on Hannity to promote his movie and said,
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump, it's like daddy arrived and he's taken
Speaker 2: off his belt, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's about that, I mean, yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's.
Speaker 2: Not much to say about. Drones are back, you guys.
Speaker 2: That's exciting, the New Jersey Drones, which needs to be
Speaker 2: the name of a minor league baseball team if it's
Speaker 2: not already. Yeah, there's a there's a headline on Drudge
Speaker 2: that said Northeast drone sighting surge again ellipses, And that's
Speaker 2: literally the only possible way to make the story seem
Speaker 2: like the drones are still intriguing, because when you click
Speaker 2: through to the New York Post, the headline is Northeast
Speaker 2: drone sighting surge again after FAA limits lifted. So, as
Speaker 2: we talked about, just be in case anybody missed the
Speaker 2: way this drone story happened. There's everyone's like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck are these drones? It's so weird, like where are
Speaker 2: they coming from? And then the FAA put limits on
Speaker 2: whether you were able to fly your hobby drones. They
Speaker 2: said you can't, it'll be a crime. And the drone
Speaker 2: sighting stopped, and so the aliens are apparently very sensitive
Speaker 2: to the possibility of ticketing. Yeah, and Iran, I feel
Speaker 2: like if people spent the first few months of those
Speaker 2: like lime scooters showing up everywhere, insisting that like nobody
Speaker 2: could explain where they were coming from, and then it
Speaker 2: must be aliens, Like it's just people are seeing drones
Speaker 2: more often because other people are flying drones more often.
Speaker 2: Like that. There's like the FAA limited the ban on
Speaker 2: being able to fly drones wherever the fuck you want
Speaker 2: last year, and so then people were like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start flying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they lifted the ban on where they could fly them,
Speaker 3: and everyone decided New Jersey, which.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly ahead of the cut.
Speaker 3: You know, now that we're talking about it, I will say,
Speaker 3: going back to our like what's wrong with people's brains thing?
Speaker 3: I now I'm kind of like maybe what's happening is
Speaker 3: our logic, our processing power, Like we're just operating on
Speaker 3: jump cut reasoning, like to go from I see drones
Speaker 3: everywhere to I saw more drones today to there are
Speaker 3: aliens or our Audians or whatever. It's just like, well,
Speaker 3: that's that can only happen in jump cut, because if
Speaker 3: you walk through the steps, it makes no sense.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. It's we're just it's like we have we're
Speaker 2: all in a writer's room that is trying to come
Speaker 2: up with the most interesting direction for us story to go.
Speaker 2: It would be more interesting if these vaccines that we've
Speaker 2: all been getting since we were kids, we're actually like
Speaker 2: the government like doing something like spying on it. Like
Speaker 2: it's we do actually live in like the matrix or
Speaker 2: you know some shit. You know, it's more interesting if
Speaker 2: the you know, people who bought a ninety dollars drone
Speaker 2: are aliens. But it's just, yeah, we're all just writers
Speaker 2: rooming reality in the direction that is going to be
Speaker 2: most intriguing, and it's fucking it's driving everybody out of
Speaker 2: their minds.
Speaker 3: Here's my actual question for someone I don't know, smarter
Speaker 3: than me or more invested in me, than this, but
Speaker 3: like this we are at a sort of like facts
Speaker 3: don't care about your feelings stage of things. But yeah,
Speaker 3: surprise surprise the other way, like what is the actual
Speaker 3: way to like bet against all of these counterfactual like
Speaker 3: right wing beliefs I don't know, Like for instance, actually
Speaker 3: so so after the twenty twenty election, there was this
Speaker 3: guy who I think might be kind of a right
Speaker 3: wing goon or libertarian goon but poker player named Bart
Speaker 3: Hanson I think his name is, And he was just
Speaker 3: openly taking bets on Twitter with QAnon people, you know,
Speaker 3: for large amounts of money, and like I think they
Speaker 3: went through because they would put them in scrow accounts.
Speaker 3: But he would just be like Donald Trump will not
Speaker 3: be like sworn in as president in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: Like I'm taking all that. Yeah, and he made a
Speaker 3: ton of money. That's great, Like what is the way?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you don't want to like short like
Speaker 3: fucking iron lungs or go long on like iron lungs
Speaker 3: or whatever, but like it's something like that, Like the
Speaker 3: things that these people believe and that they're using their
Speaker 3: immense power to implement do not comport with actual factual reality,
Speaker 3: and there's only so long they can push that off, right,
Speaker 3: So how do you arbitrage that?
Speaker 4: That's w Yeah, that's my challenge to the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know if you've got a way to
Speaker 2: let's turn this whole thing into a get rich quick scheme,
Speaker 2: because people who like you could short the stock market,
Speaker 2: but the stock market's been able to just be completely
Speaker 2: isolated from reality, Like I think the stock market is
Speaker 2: fully in on on the lie right now, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, but also like the stock market, it's like
Speaker 3: like things that are bad for humanity are good for it.
Speaker 4: As you said, like so right, if everyone.
Speaker 3: If every corporation could fire everyone, that would be good
Speaker 3: for the stock market, even though that would eliminate its
Speaker 3: customer base. Right, But you know, I think in their world,
Speaker 3: it's like that's fine if like ninety nine percent of
Speaker 3: Americans or the world or whatever are just sort of
Speaker 3: like surfs or like like indentured servants, that's fine, and
Speaker 3: then we can just like pass around the same like
Speaker 3: couple billion dollars to keep the stock market moving.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's where we're headed more than more
Speaker 2: than some like revelation that like they were lying about everything,
Speaker 2: but I'm.
Speaker 3: Just saying, like, like the other things they're implementing are incorrect.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, even from an economic perspective, like fucking
Speaker 3: all these mass departations, they are going to ruin the
Speaker 3: aggric cultural economy, the manufacturing economy, Like these things will
Speaker 3: come home to roost as it were, eventually.
Speaker 4: So what does one do about this?
Speaker 3: Like we can't stop it happening, Like, you know, if
Speaker 3: our k goes in, I think that's it's a reasonable
Speaker 3: bet there's gonna be fucking polio in America, like right
Speaker 3: eventually in the next ten years, Like there's gonna be like.
Speaker 2: You don't want to invest in iron lungs, right because I.
Speaker 4: Was just.
Speaker 3: That and I don't know, Andrew, it's a bye. The
Speaker 3: problem is who's going to make the best iron lung.
Speaker 3: It's probably someone that's otherwise going to profit from all
Speaker 3: this ship You're Luckheed Martin.
Speaker 2: Dude's going to convert that little personal submarine that he
Speaker 2: was developing to rest kids into an iron lung.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, can you imagine how shitty his iron
Speaker 3: lung is going to be?
Speaker 2: Well, Andrew, such a pleasure having you as always? Where
Speaker 2: can people find you? Follow you all? That kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Manos is racist. I am on blue Sky,
Speaker 3: so I guess there. I've been doing very little blue skying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not for me.
Speaker 2: I fucking social media, all right, that is gonna do
Speaker 2: it for us this Monday morning. We are back tomorrow
Speaker 2: with a whole last episode of the show, and we
Speaker 2: will talk to Yelda.
Speaker 4: Bye. Peace,