1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: I circle around a lot of people and everybody's so busy. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: That's the main problem with the Darryl's House show. They 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: got schedules, you know, and it's hard for them to 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: come up to state New York or Connecticut. It's a 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: logistical difficulty, and that's the main thing. So I don't 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: really plan too much ahead. I see who's available at 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: the time and just pick somebody. No deeper than that. Really. 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast, where your host 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Buzz Night talks with legends from music business today. Buzz 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: is joined by Daryl Hall, half of the hit making 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: duo Hall and Outs. Darrel is the star of the 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: award winning series Live from Daryl's House. He was inducted 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in twenty fourteen, 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: and he's responsible for numerous top ten hits on the 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Billboard Hot one hundred and other charts. He's a multi 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Grammy winner and nominee. Darryl is also known for his 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: numerous charitable contributions and activities, including his work with the 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: United Way and other organizations, and he has a new 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: music project out as well. Let's welcome Darryl Hall as 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: he joins Buzz Night. Next, on taking a walk. 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 3: Daryl, welcome to taking a walk. I'm so excited. 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: Aha, Okay, nice to be here. 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so fantastic. Listen. Congratulations on creating in 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: so many forms these days. You're creating new music, which 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: we'll talk about, You're creating with your show, which we're 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: going to get into as well. You're out on the 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: road as well. Do you ever sit idle? 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: I have an off mode and I use it and 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: i'm you know, I'm just to call me an avid 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: reader is an understatement, and I just turn it off, 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: sit there and read whatever I'm reading. And that's the 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: end of that, you know. And I have the ability 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: to do that. If I didn't have that, it would 35 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: it would not be good because I'm really busy. I 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: have so many things going on at once that that's 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: the only way I can sort of balance it out. 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: Is there a part of your work that you enjoy 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: the most? 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, the part well, the two things I actually 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: have equal joy. And what doing the Daryl's House show 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: is an unbelievable experience. It's like hours of I don't 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: know how, like high energy ecstasy kind of feelings. You 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: know where things are just going and you have no 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: idea what's happening or what's going to happen or and 46 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: it's all seat of the pants. You know, there's no 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: there's no rehearsals, no nothing. And so that is very 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: very stimulating to say the least. That's that And and 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: equally is like when I'm working in the studio with 50 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: somebody like Dave Stewart, my friend Dave. There's this certain 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: kind of energy that goes down that is really hard 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: to describe when something's making something out of nothing. And 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: I think I would equally rank those as like the 54 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: top of the top of my list of excitement. 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: So let's talk about your latest music first. The collaboration 56 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the first time that you and Dave Stewart had 57 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: worked together, but tell me about how great it is 58 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: working with him. 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Dave and I have a very unique relationship creatively and personally. 60 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: I've known Dave since the mid eighties. We started working 61 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: together back then, and we have never really gone apart 62 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: for very long. We do things together, we know each other. 63 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: We literally live around the corner from each other down 64 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: in the Bahamas. He's just he's he's like my best friend, 65 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: you know kind of thing. And uh, and we we 66 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: have an amazing creative relationship. I mean it's intuitive when 67 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: whenever I get together with him, I feel alive and 68 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: and he he stimulates me in ways that I don't 69 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: know anybody else could do musically and creatively. 70 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: I think he's one of the most underrated musicians out 71 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: there in my opinion. 72 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's he's beyond well. I to call him underrated, 73 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, because that's it's it's a denigration that 74 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: I don't know. He's he's he's all over the place. 75 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: This man is a powerhouse of ideas and projects. He's 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 2: got a million of things going on at once. And uh, 77 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: music is only one of those things. And and he's 78 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: he's he's just his mind. To say his mind is 79 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: fertile as a boy, well, it certainly is. 80 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: How would you characterize the the sound of this this 81 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: new music that you've created. 82 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I could. I don't know. 83 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: It's me. It's it's that's I called it D because 84 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: that's my name, you know, That's that's what people call 85 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: me my friends, And uh, I think it's really personal 86 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: and and nobody but Dave could have could have brought 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: that out, and uh, it's it's it's something that's unique 88 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: to me. I mean, I wasn't channeling anybody. I was 89 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: channeling myself, my own past and my own emotions and 90 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: my own experiences. So I don't know how you characterize that. 91 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: It's Daryl music. 92 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: That's the best part, right, And it's just it's all 93 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: it's all you. It's authentic Daryl. 94 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 95 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: So let's play a little word association game. You can 96 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: go first, or I can go first. But one word, 97 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: what one word describes Daryl's house? 98 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: Electric? 99 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: I would agree, but I the first one for me 100 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: and I've been going through this in my head prior 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: to talking to you. 102 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: Joyous. Oh yeah, okay, that's that's a good word too. 103 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: There's a lot of things. It's a million things. 104 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 3: I mean, from the first time that I saw the 105 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: show and the way it's evolved every time I watch it. 106 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: It's joyous, it's electric, it's wonderful. 107 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well that's the idea. That's that's what I try 108 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: and convey and that's what well, I don't have to 109 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: convey it, it just conveys itself. Uh, it's not just 110 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: me it's the band, it's everybody. We're all, like I 111 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: said before, we're all doing this for the first time. 112 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: It's just like boom, out of nowhere. We have this. 113 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: There's sometimes a stranger as a guest a lot of times, 114 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: and we're making something happen that that even surprises the guests, 115 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: you know, because it comes out differently than they ever expected. 116 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 3: How important when you started the show was the ability 117 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: to have creative freedom in terms of how this thing 118 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: would flow. 119 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: It was essential. I could not ever have done this 120 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: show on a network television situation. This was an Internet show. 121 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: It still remains an Internet show. I've been on TV 122 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: with it, Trust Real TV, but its home is really 123 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: the Internet. Because of the freedom that it requires. You 124 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: cannot have anybody saying you have to do it this way, 125 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: or why don't you change the format or you know. 126 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: I actually when in the very beginning, I'll tell you 127 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: a story. In the very beginning, I did shop it 128 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: around to networks because I thought, okay, you know, it 129 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: was the old days. It was almost twenty years ago, 130 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, maybe this, you know, let's try 131 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: and see if we can get this on TV. And 132 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 2: I went to all these different program directors and TV 133 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: and you would not have believed the ship that they 134 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: said to me. You know, my favorite one was well, 135 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: but yeah, but you need a contest or something. You 136 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: need a contest at the end. You know, it needs 137 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 2: to have a payoff. And I'm thinking, what the fuck 138 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: are you talking about? You know, and I got a 139 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: million stupid things like that said to me. So there 140 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: you go. 141 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: And that created the certainty that you knew this ability 142 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: to control your destiny with it was essential. 143 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: I knew I was doing the right thing by sticking 144 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: and doing the internet thing, which was a real challenge 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: in those data because there was no internet shows, it 146 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: didn't exist. It was hard for people to even download it, 147 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: you know it it was they had a weight and 148 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: let you know, let it load up, and all is 149 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: kind of crap. You know, you. 150 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: Created this what I would call kind of experiential kind 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: tent experiential TV in that you know, we the audience, 152 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: we feel. 153 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: Like we're inside your house. I mean, you created a 154 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: new format that I don't think really existed before. 155 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't think it did. I think I created made 156 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: something up. And the reason it feels like it was 157 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: in my house is because it was in my house. No, 158 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, I just I went with it. I just 159 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: went with reality. I mean, do you talk about reality shows. 160 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: This is a reality show. I mean it's there's no scripting, 161 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: no nothing, you know, it just happens. 162 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,239 Speaker 3: In the early days of the show, where there any 163 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: sort of odd stories that occurred that you know, we're 164 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: just part of the journey, you know, difficult experiences or 165 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: just technical experiences that were unique back then. 166 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, there were you know, yeah, I mean there were 167 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: things nothing major, but you know wh quoted snowstorms and 168 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: things like that. You know, I mean I lived up 169 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: the first house that I had that I did most 170 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: of the shows, the early shows, it was it's pretty 171 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: much on the top of a mountain, and you know, 172 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: as luck would have it, you know, like monster snowstorm 173 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: would come and I'd be trying to get Smokey Robinson 174 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: or somebody like that to get into the house, and 175 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: you know, people were slamming into the garage in the 176 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: ice and you know all that kind of crap. So, 177 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it was it was things like that that 178 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: were really uh, you know, I wouldn't call the problematic, 179 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: but you know, there they were. 180 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: Talk about the role that the late t Bone Wolk 181 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: played in not only the creation co creation of the show, 182 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: but just in general in your world. 183 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: Well other than Dave and I would say t Bone 184 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: has was my friend and and oddly the three of 185 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: us were really close friends and and boy it's hard 186 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: to say I don't. We had a really close relationship 187 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: again musically, and I think the vibe of the show 188 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: in the beginning would have been different if t Bone 189 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't have been involved. I think he helped us 190 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: set the uh, set the stage for it all, to 191 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: set the mood of it because of his personality as well. 192 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: You know, he really really added, really added to the 193 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: to the early shows, to the shows that he was 194 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 2: that he was around for, and his loss was really major. 195 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: That's all I can say. 196 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: Do you consider yourself kind of a natural born teacher 197 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: to some extent? Because I feel like with the new 198 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: artists that you champion in your career and on the show, 199 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: I sense this deep connection that you have to sort 200 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: of pay it forward to the next generation. Am I 201 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: reading that correctly? 202 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I My mother was a teacher, you know, she 203 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: was a music teacher and a art teacher, and the 204 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: idea of teaching and learning. Yeah, I do look at 205 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: myself as a bit of a teacher, And what can 206 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: I say about that? Yes, I do, And I had 207 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: that what's that word? Especially with the new bands, I 208 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: want to bring them in and help them, you know. 209 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: I always have that kind of proprietarial feeling towards them, 210 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, I want to see them shine and do 211 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: good and all those kind of things. I guess that's 212 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: what a teacher does. 213 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you're rooting for them, and you're 214 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: giving them a little kick along the way, and you're 215 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: probably giving them your own dose of reality about the business, aren't. 216 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: You, Without a doubt. It's always interesting to see how 217 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: they react to these all these veterans that they're thrust into, 218 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, the situation they're thrust into, you know, because 219 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: they're I mean, I've done shows where these kids were like, 220 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: you know, twenty one years old. You know, they walked 221 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: through with their guitars and they WHOA, what's going on? 222 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: You know? And you know it's surprising is they're the 223 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: ones that have seemed to have the least nervousness and 224 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: self consciousness. When you get a veteran, somebody who's been 225 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: doing this as long as me and I bring it 226 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: into the situation. They're so uptight it's unbelievable and you 227 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: have to calm them down because they they don't know 228 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: what's going on. They're so out of the comfort zone. 229 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more the Taking a Walk Podcast. 230 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 231 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: I think Smokey Robinson you just brought up a little 232 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: while ago, and I know Smokey means the world to 233 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: you in terms of influence and just you know, everything 234 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: you've taken from him. Talk about what Smokey means and 235 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: talk about how special it was having Smokey on the show. 236 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: Well, he was one of those ones, and there was 237 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: only a few of them, actually, I mean, I was 238 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Smoky was my hero when I was a teenager. I mean, 239 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: he absolutely was. I was a you know, I used 240 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: to I actually met him back then, you know, when 241 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: I was about eighteen, and because I used to hang 242 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: out at the Uptown Theater in Philadelphia, and that's where 243 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: he used to play in Philly. You know, it's kind 244 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: of like the Apollo Theater in New York at places 245 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: like that. And he always treated me from the get 246 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: go from you know, I was a kid. Well he 247 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: wasn't much older, but he was. He's such a gracious 248 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: person and such a cool guy. And I, I don't know, 249 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: I always go over the years I was would bump 250 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: into and he was always just so natural and real 251 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: with me. And I totally respect his music. His music 252 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: was unbelievable and continues to be. And Uh, to have 253 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: him at the house, I couldn't believe it, actually because 254 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: it was one of the earlier ones. And I'm thinking, oh, 255 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: I'll give it a shot. And I called him, I 256 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: got his number, and I called him his bookie, you know, 257 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: I lived and I'm doing the show. Do you want 258 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: to you want to come? And he was sure and 259 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: I was like okay, And he was like sitting at 260 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: the dinner table there with me and telling stories with 261 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: you know, and I'm thinking, wow, I'm you know, I'm 262 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: doing something really unusual here. 263 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Who are some of the gets that you're currently going 264 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: after that you hope you can secure for the show? 265 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: Can you share one or two? 266 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: No, I because I don't really go after them. It's uh. 267 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: I circle around a lot of people and and everybody 268 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: is so busy. That's that's The main problem with the 269 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: with the Darryl's House show is that people they got 270 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: they got schedules, you know, and it's hard for them 271 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: to come up to upstate New York or Connecticut. Uh So, 272 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: so anyway that that it's it's it's a it's a 273 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: logistical difficulty, and that's the main thing. So I don't 274 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: really plan too much ahead. I see who's available at 275 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: the time, and and and just pick somebody and and 276 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: it's just like no deeper than that. 277 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: Really, well, because you've got to balance out touring as well, right, 278 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: I mean yeah. 279 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: Because everybody else, you know, there's so many things going on. 280 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: I have to find time to do this. They have 281 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: to find time to do it, and uh yeah like that. 282 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: So the current current tour is with a pretty uh 283 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: interesting gentleman that you're that you're out with these days, 284 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: Elvis Costello. Tell me how special that is? 285 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: Well, that too, actually just finished. I did two months 286 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: with Elvis, and Elvis and I go back again to 287 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: the eighties and we did a record that we did 288 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: a song together back then, and uh, well there's a 289 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: lot of mutual respect going on between the two of us, 290 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: and and talking about T bone T Bone for a 291 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: very short period of time, played in Elvis's band and 292 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: did all that kind of thing. So, and we know 293 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: we have a lot of mutual friends, Elvis and I 294 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: and and uh, it was it was, it was. It 295 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: was nice to be out there on the road with 296 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: people like like Elvis and his band because they're all 297 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: such friendly guys. We know each other. Well, I don't 298 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: say I know some of them, and I got to 299 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: know them, and they're all good people, man. And and 300 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: that means a lot on when you're on the road 301 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: because you're just out there, you know, there's nobody but 302 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: you and and and the people that you're with. It 303 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: was it was a very pleasant exp that's the best 304 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: way to put it. 305 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: And then of course you were out with Todd Runggren 306 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: and I know, you guys go back talk about your 307 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 3: relationship with Todd and what he means to you. 308 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, Todd is like one of my oldest, oldest musical friends. 309 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: And I mean I've known Todd since the old my 310 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: Philly days when we grew up at Philadelphia together. We 311 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: really do share a lot of history and I enjoy 312 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: having him on stage with me. 313 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: Going back to the Philly days and the great Gamble 314 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: and Huff. Can you talk about the experience with Gamble 315 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 3: and Huff and what you learned from them. I'm sure 316 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: you learned a lot from them. 317 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: Did I learn from them? Well, you know to say, actually, 318 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm backtrack on that. Yes, I did learn I learned 319 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: how to play the piano the way I play from 320 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: Leon because I used to just watch him and he 321 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: and I have our crazy way have a kind of 322 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: a similar style. But we we we grew up together. 323 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: I mean, there were those guys are a couple of 324 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: years older than me, and they had already got started, 325 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: but we were working with the same people in the 326 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: same places. And I was coming up and they they 327 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: grabbed hold of me, and and uh, I wound up 328 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 2: being in their circle of of of music, you know, 329 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: both in the studio and and and how do I 330 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: put it, I mean I was I was just there 331 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: with them all the time. And and this was in 332 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: the really good days. This was this was in the 333 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: very beginning when before before the sound of Philadelphia really 334 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: broke into the world. Uh, and you know, and and 335 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: they were working with bands like the Intruders and and 336 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: uh and Barbara Mason, people like that, and uh, and 337 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: and they they dragged me into it, and I was 338 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: I a record with leannak Enny and and that was 339 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 2: the first record IVE ever made. I was a teenager. 340 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: I worked at Kenny's record store for a while. There's 341 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: so many experiences, you know, so many studio experiences and 342 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: watching ship go down, and and and and and hanging 343 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: out with those people. It was. It was an amazing 344 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: time for music for me, you know, in Philly, and 345 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: I learned, I mean, I became a Philadelphia musician through that. 346 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I do. No matter what kind 347 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: of sound I put out there in the world, it's 348 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: still it's still got Philly soul down in there somewhere. 349 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: You know. That's that's my That's that's what I do. 350 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: No doubt you were at a moment in uh music history. 351 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, uh to recall the uh 352 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: the We Are the World session. Of course, there was 353 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: the great Doctor menary recently about that. But Uh, that 354 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: must have been like an out of body experience, wasn't it. 355 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: It was a strange experience. I don't know if it 356 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: was out of body, but because it was. I've said 357 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: this many times, because people have asked me so many 358 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: times about this experience, and I said, because everybody was 359 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: in there, and before you walked in, they said, you're 360 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: the only one allowed in. It's just you. You can't 361 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: bring you can't bring your assistant, you can't bring anybody. Right. 362 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: And these people, including myself to some degree, but more 363 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 2: of them than me, they didn't know how to handle 364 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: that because the people walk around with their entourage. That's 365 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: what people do, that's what musicians do for good reasons, 366 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: by the way, and it made everybody kind of have 367 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: to reevaluate what they were doing and how to deal 368 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: with each other. A lot of people knew each other, 369 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't. And I always say that 370 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: it made everybody feel like they were in the eighth 371 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: grade because it was it suddenly became junior high chorus 372 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: because that's what everybody could relate to. They could relate 373 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: to mister mister Jones Quincy up there and being the 374 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: being the choral leader, and everybody acted that way, and 375 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: they started getting very childlike and people passing around the 376 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: sheet music for syin autographs and do all this kind 377 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: of stuff, very like high school kind of things. And 378 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: that's that's that was what I took from it the 379 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: whole time. I was really surprised how what the common 380 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: denominator was for all those people at that time. 381 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking us back to that, My God, tell 382 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 3: me the best advice you ever got that still resonates 383 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: in your in your head. 384 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: Paul Williams of The Temptations just said to me one time, 385 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: just don't lose your soul whatever you do. And that's simple. 386 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: Is that that that that speaks volumes man? 387 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: That does say it? 388 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: Right? Thank God? 389 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: How do you sort of train for the road? Do 390 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: you go through a particular discipline before you head out 391 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 3: or is it really just a mindfulness to just take 392 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: good care of yourself? How do you train for that? 393 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: It's more of a mindfulness. I don't do anything special 394 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: for it. I what I what I have to say 395 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: is I like to be out on the road frequently, 396 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: because if I spend really, really long time off the road, 397 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: then then I meant that book too long, you know, 398 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: sitting there reading too long. I gotta get on the 399 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: treadmill and you know, get you know, you get to 400 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: get back this shape. But I don't do anything particular, 401 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: not What. 402 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Do you think of the state of the music business? 403 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: These days. I think it's a strange place. Really. There's 404 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: still elements of tradition that need to go away, but 405 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 2: they exist and probably always will. And but mostly it's 406 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: it's a free for all. It's all over the place, 407 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: and uh, I think it's hard. It's hard for new 408 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: musicians for sure, very hard because you have to you know, 409 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: it's it's a different path. But at the same time, 410 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: it allows because there are many different paths, it allows 411 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: you to to uh get somewhere without the traditional oh, 412 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: have a signal and you know, have a hit single 413 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: and and and and you know, kiss the ass of 414 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: some program director somewhere and do all that kind of stuff. 415 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's uh and and have to listen 416 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: to some idiotic reviewer that doesn't know what he's talking about, 417 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: or sheet but doesn't know what he's talking about. Uh, 418 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: it's a it's a little freer, you know, like at 419 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: Darrel's house. Darrel's House exists. That's you know, that's like 420 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: every every show is like having a hit record. Oh, 421 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: I love that. 422 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: That's a great description to that, man really is. Yeah, 423 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: can you talk about maybe three quintessential albums that still 424 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 3: to this day kind of impact you on how you 425 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 3: just think about music. 426 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: I don't have you asked me this little earlier. I 427 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: don't really have anybody anything like that. There's no one 428 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: thing that influenced me to that degree, you know. I 429 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: mean I've been I've been inspired, like motherfucker, but by 430 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: by certain people and certain music, certain albums. But I 431 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: can't say that there's this album to say, oh does 432 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: this change my life? This did just did that. It 433 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: just isn't isn't there inside my head. 434 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: It's more the diverse relationships and the styles and just 435 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: everybody sort of doing their thing. 436 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: Regional experiences and regional sounds and city sounds, all kinds 437 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: of things. You know, It's not it's it's really not 438 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: just being influenced by I'm a terrible audience. If you 439 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: want the truth, I don't. I don't respond as well 440 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: as an audience. 441 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: Terrible audience. I almost fell off my chair. 442 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: Really well. 443 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: Lastly, we talked often about sort of that it factor 444 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: X factor that leads to success in careers. What do 445 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: you think is your X factor? 446 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: I have a certain kind of voice that people really like, 447 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: and it sounds a certain way, as a certain tonality. 448 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: If you really want to get into it. It's it's 449 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: very quote radio friendly. But besides that, I don't know. 450 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: It's whatever I'm thrown out there people seem to like. 451 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: And I I'd be the last person will to put 452 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: my finger on it or what it is that that 453 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 5: grabs people about anything that I do. 454 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: Well. 455 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: I think authenticity would be on that list, sir. 456 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll accept that one. 457 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: I'll lead with that, and I'll end with that, and 458 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: I'll tell you how grateful I am for all the 459 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: music that you have continued to give us, and the 460 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: joy of the creations that you make is very special. 461 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: You can almost take Daryl's house and turn that into 462 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: a case study on how to build a franchise. So 463 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: congratulations on all that. I don't mean a franchise like McDonald's. 464 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: Come on, I'm not saying that. 465 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: I have a franchise like that. 466 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm calling it a franchise. 467 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: And and thanks for this episode of all to give us. 468 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: Share this and other episodes with your friends, and thank 469 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: you so you never missed an episode. Taking a Walk 470 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever 471 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.