1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: We're on the air from one to four every day 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the radio and then after four o'clock whatever you missed 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app John and Ken on demand podcast. Yeah, 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: And the Moistline and the Moist Slide is going to 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: be Friday twice. On Friday. We have some spaces open 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: because everybody who's on vacation, including us, So you can 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: call the voiceline and leave your message. What's some moistline 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: number again? 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Eight eight eight, No, it's eight seven seven eight eight 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: seven seven six six four seven eight eight six. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: How many years have we had the Moistline? I? You know, 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I think about that a few weeks ago and I 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: can't remember. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: It's got to be at least fifteen really that long, 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: I think, so yes, Wow, I think it's been that long. 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot of high end entertainment there. 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: Right, because we've been in burd Bank for all almost 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: twenty years, and I think it was not long after that. 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: So wow. No, don't think about that either. 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Next you'll be twenty years that the station moved to 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Burbank YEP. We're still here, you know, you know there. 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: They've moved more people out of this floor. 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Is there anybody left? No? Just uh, just a couple 26 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: of studios. That's it. They moved all the salespeople to 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: another floor. There's just good for you. Massive empty space everywhere, 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: just emptiness. Pretty soon you'll be doing the show in 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: the parking garage, That's what I'm saying. 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: Wow, let's bring on Steve Gregory right for this story 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: out of Lancaster. 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: About the cops who threw a woman to the ground. Steve, 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: you there, Yeah, how you doing, guys? We're here in 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: a hum ah yeah and I hear you. 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: Okay, good. 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: What's this story about here? I've said, we've we've seen 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: the video. 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: But yeah, so the video. So the video came out. 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: It went viral, obviously, and it's graphic. It shows deputies 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 4: trying to arrest a man and a woman outside of 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 4: a win Co grocery store in Lancaster, and the video. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: Quickly went viral. 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: And what was always missing from the video, as with 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: a lot of these types of videos, is the context. 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: What were the circumstances and. 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: Surrounding the deputies getting there, what brought the deputies to 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: that location. Well, yesterday Sheriff Robert Luna had an emergency 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: press conference if you will, only because we had fifty 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 4: three minutes notice of the press conference. 50 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: And this is a big test for him. 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: If you remember the Monterey Parks shooting in January, that 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: was sort of his test as the first major event 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: while just shortly after becoming the new sheriff of La County. 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: This will test his reform efforts now because this is 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: his first high profile deputy involved use of force incident. 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: So yesterday the sheriff talked about he saw the video, 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: he called it disturbing, and he guaranteed a full and 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: impartial investigation. But what he told is yesterday was a 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: couple of things that kind of stuck out. First of all, 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: the deputies were going to the Windco grocery store because 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: of a nine to one one call by an employee 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 4: of the grocery store. The nine to one one caller 63 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: told dispatch, there are a man and a woman here 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 4: that have assaulted one of our employees, which is one 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: of those theft officers, like a security officer, but they 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 4: specialize in the theft of product. They keep an eye 67 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: on all this stuff and there's some fancy name for it. 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: I can't recall the top of my. 69 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: Head, lost prevention, thank you, lost prevention specialist or lost 70 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Prevention officer, so kind of a security guard. And apparently 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: they said that this couple had assaulted a deputy or 72 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: excuse me, assaulted this lost prevention person and had taken 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: something and had shoplifted. So that's what deputies were responding to. 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: So when deputies arrived, they approached the couple who matched 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: the description given by the caller, and the deputy was 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: affecting the arrest on the man, and the man was 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: kind of given the deputy's grief. Then the woman started 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: mouthing off to the deputies and telling him they want 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: arrest my husband, and going on and on and on, 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: and she approached the deputies. 81 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Now, what didn't come out in yesterday's press conferences I 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 4: had been told by sources is that the woman allegedly 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 4: slapped one of the deputies. And I'm not sure where 84 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: she slapped him, but had engaged already in some. 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: Sort of aggressive behavior. 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: So and she was filming or recording the encounter on 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 4: her cell phone. 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: If that's true, that changes everything, right. 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you though going into this, and 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 4: this is what people don't understand. First of all, policing's 91 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 4: not pretty. So when you see stuff on video like 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 4: that without the full context or without the full story, 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: you got to wait. And even the sheriff finally conceded 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 4: toward the end of the press conference yesterday. You know, 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: I have to wait to se see what the deputies 96 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: were thinking when they did that. I have to get 97 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: the deputy side of the story too. I can't just 98 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: comment on what happened. Even though he called the video disturbing, 99 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: he said he does have to wait for the deputies. 100 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I saw television coverage and they presented the encounter as 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: she's videotaping the police, and they got pissed and through 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: to the ground, and it was all about her recording 103 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: no what was going on. But there was something very 104 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: important that also was happening. Is that she may have slapped. 105 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: Them, right, And that's yeah, so that's not that's not 106 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: the case. 107 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: And in deputies are not are trained to understand that 108 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: it is a First Amendment right to record their you know, 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: their actions and their activity is so long as the 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 4: person's not trespassing. And in this case, it was a 111 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: public space. So the deputies are trained in the academy 112 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: level and again at leadership level, they are trained to 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: allow people to record them. It's a it's not a hindrance. No, 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: I can't speak for those two deputies, have no idea 115 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: what they were going through and what they were thinking 116 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: at the time, but I can tell you how they're trained, 117 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: and they're trained to accept that that said, I was 118 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 4: told that they were the aggressors. Now, keep in mind 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: the nine to one to one caller said that a 120 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: man and a woman there was an assault against an employee, 121 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 4: So deputies are already on the way to the call 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: knowing that an assault most likely took place based on 123 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: the call. It's like when someone calls and says, I 124 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: think there's a man with a gun in my backyard. 125 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: So when officers arrived, they're not thinking they're going to 126 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: get a kiddy kat out of the tree. So they're 127 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: wrapping their mind around the fact that there might be 128 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: someone with a gun in the backyard, much like they 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 4: do here. They're wrapping their head around the fact that 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: someone may have assaulted somebody else Already, they're preparing themselves 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: mentally and physically to approach someone who's most likely aggressive. 132 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: Now everyone's been making a big deal, Well this is 133 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: a senior citizen couple. Well it doesn't really matter if 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: they've assaulted somebody by now, it doesn't matter how old 135 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: you are. 136 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: So the woman who is seeing getting thrown in the 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: video was the same woman who was accused of assaulting 138 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: someone in the store. 139 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: The couple. 140 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: They said that the couple the couple, but she was 141 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: half of that couple. Yes, I see. So the reporting 142 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: was very confusing and incomplete. 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: Well it's because and here's the other thing too, that 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: the sheriff's department was very vague. I know that the 145 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: sheriff said yesterday he had didn't see the video until 146 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: last Friday, so they've had a little bit to go 147 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: through the bodycam footage. And remember this is also new 148 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: to them as well. They've only had bodycam since twenty twenty, 149 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: so they're still trying to figure out best practices on 150 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: dealing with all of the bodycam footage and. 151 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: What to release, what not to release. So they're still. 152 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: Getting the process of going through video and releasing or 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 4: reviewing it themselves. So, and you're right, there's been a 154 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: lot of confusing reporting. I will tell you that I 155 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: am scheduled right after this interview to speak with. 156 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: An attorney of one of the deputies involved. 157 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: So I'm hoping to get more perspective, and if you 158 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: want me to come back later, we can, you know, 159 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: I can bring you back some more information on that, 160 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: or we can do it tomorrow. But I just want 161 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: to let you know I am talking the attorney of 162 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: one of the deputies. 163 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Is this tom you? 164 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 165 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because he did talk to the associated press 166 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: and gave them. But let's see what information you get. Yeah, 167 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: we'll probably bring you back, but there isn't time. We'll 168 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow about it. 169 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: Got it, guys? Well? 170 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: And so basically the bottom line is the deputies arrived 171 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 4: based on the call of someone assaulting somebody. 172 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: They reacted and responded. 173 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: And remember deputies and officers are allowed up in the 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: law up to an including lethal use of force if 175 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: someone goes against a lawful command. 176 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I have a question, though, I mean, yesterday was Wednesday. 177 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: You said they that the Chief Wunda had the footage 178 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: on last Friday. He was first made aware of it 179 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: last Friday. Why and I'm sure the police gave their story. 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: Why didn't he talk about the female suspect slapping one 181 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: of the officers. Why wasn't that part of the press 182 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: conference yesterday? 183 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 184 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Instead he was he was basically going along with them 185 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: that they did something wrong and we'll take care of him. Yeah. So, 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: I mean he must have known. 187 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what he knew. And but I will 188 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 4: tell you the other thing. 189 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: Why holding a press conference if you don't know everything. 190 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: I think what's interesting too is yesterday he talked about 191 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: all the different groups and organizations and city leaders that 192 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: he's brought into this. Now that's going to complicate the 193 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: matters because now it's being tried in the in the media. 194 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: The whole thing. First of all, listen, was really a 195 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: routine call, is what this was. 196 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't a shooting, no, no, no, Nobody was seriously 197 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: hurt here. A woman was maybe assaulting an officer and 198 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: got thrown to the ground. I mean, that's that's the story. 199 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: I don't see what's remarkable about it. 200 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: Well, we'll find out all the details here pretty quick 201 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: and maybe the attorney today will be able to enlighten 202 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: me a little more. 203 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: All right, Steve, thank you very much. Bye, guys. 204 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: It's Steve greg Mukafid, who's covering the story out of Lancaster, 205 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: where a couple had to be restrained by Ellie County 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: Shore's deputies, and got well, when we come back, I'll 207 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: explain how I think this story unfolded, and yes, wrongly 208 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: unfolded with the media as usual, because I saw this 209 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: story a couple of nights ago, and even I was like, 210 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: why are they doing this to the woman? She's allowed 211 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: to videotape police activity? And that's all I got out 212 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: of it, until you know, you wait the day or 213 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: two and you get more details. And I didn't know 214 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: they were involved at first, impossible shoplifting, an assault on 215 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: a security guard. 216 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even know that from first seeing this. 217 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: A whole story came out backwards, sideways, backwards. All right, 218 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit more when we return your 219 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: chance at money to one thousand dollars. Listen for the 220 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: keyword John and KENKFI AM six forty live everywhere the 221 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 222 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 224 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: All Right, a couple more minutes on this Lancaster's story. 225 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: We just talked to Steve Gregory from KFI News about 226 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: and he's going to have a chat, apparently with an 227 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 2: attorney representing one of the deputies. The attorney's name is 228 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: Tommy You and we'll see what comes of that. And 229 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: his quote from the Associated Press is his client took 230 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: the woman to the ground because she was being resistant. 231 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: When I saw this story played on the news Monday night, 232 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: it was it looked bad, as John said, nobody was 233 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: badly hurt, but it looked like she was trying to 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: take a cell phone video of a police officer who 235 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: was handling her accomplice there. 236 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I just thought they were a couple. 237 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: Every version of the story that I saw on television 238 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: or I looked up online, it was all presented in 239 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: the same way. First of all, it was kind of 240 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: blurred that the woman was part of the couple that 241 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: was accused of assaulting somebody inside the store. 242 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh that I didn't even find out till later. Yeah, well, 243 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: that they were shoplifting suspects. So they may have assaulted 244 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 2: a couple of security guards. 245 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: So this sheriff Luna, did he know this stuff because 246 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: this happened last week, he must have known by now, 247 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: why was he allowing this incomplete information, and why is 248 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: he holding a press conference yesterday because he's sheriff puppet. 249 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Because I saw in this the story, I. 250 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: See activists or screaming for these cops to be arrested, 251 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: and he wanted to respond to that by acting like. 252 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I understand, we're looking into it. This doesn't look good. 253 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: And of course all the progressive media weenies in down 254 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: were showing video of all the activist groups, racial activist groups. 255 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: Essmily just interested in the viral hit right, Oh, look 256 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: at this, look at this, because apparently there's another woman 257 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: bystander who took the rest of the video with her 258 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: own cell. 259 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: Phone, a woman that was not involved in the arrests. 260 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: And that's where you see the older woman being taken 261 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: to the ground in Pepper Spring. 262 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: The whole package for several days was misleading, in fact, 263 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: maybe outright falls. I mean, how could everybody do this? 264 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: As you said, his client approached the woman to detain her, 265 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: she replied, you can't touch me. This was the beginning 266 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: of the ensuing use of force. You said, this is 267 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: the lawyer for one of the deputies that she's now 268 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: being resistant. 269 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Well, if she slapped the cop after assaulting somebody in 270 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: the store. She's lucky all she did. 271 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: The woman was cited for assaulting an officer, so yeah, 272 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: that's the charge. 273 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: So she may have slapped him, right, So what what? 274 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: What's? What's? 275 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: What's with all the reporters here, they couldn't find that out? 276 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: What's with Luna? Luna holds up murger. 277 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: They this this emergency press conference with fifty three minutes 278 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: of notice for with the activist groups all assembling, and 279 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 2: then people were demanding that he responded the activists with 280 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: the defund the police people are still out there. They 281 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: also gonna times. They all wanted answers now from the sheriff. 282 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: I look at the video this morning, It's like, Okay, 283 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: they threw it to the ground roughly, but this is 284 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: causing such an assemblage, such a media outpouring, and then 285 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: to find out that she might have slapped the cop. 286 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: Boy boy, this is like instant fake news, isn't it Exactly? 287 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: They pepper sprayed her too, so so the TV station. 288 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: My first impression of the story when I watched it 289 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: was she was like a bystander, just trying to text 290 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: them arresting the man. And then they told her stop 291 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: taking that video, and then they grabbed her and throw 292 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: it to the ground, and I thought, oh, that's not right, said, 293 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know all of this stuff. 294 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: If she was getting arrested for assaulting somebody in the store, 295 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: how did she get presented by the media as a 296 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: bystander recording the cops? Because I got the same impression, 297 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we're both crazy. Maybe that night, because 298 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: this is Monday, I saw it. 299 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: They didn't really know the full story themselves, and this 300 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: happened on June twenty fourth, but because of video, it 301 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: finally was coming. 302 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so what is today? Is today? Today's till I six? Okay, 303 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: so it's twelve days, yesterday eleven days? And luted didn't 304 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: have the story straight after eleven days. How could that be? 305 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: There's paperwork, there's arrest records, the cops probably already answered 306 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: questions to the investigators. 307 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: I guess some of the attitude is even if she 308 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: was a shoplifter and maybe she slapped the cop, they 309 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: were just they were two over the top on her 310 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: by dragging her to the ground and pepper Springer. 311 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: That's what some people still think. Okay, you go and 312 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: smack a cop and see what happens. You'd be lucky 313 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: if you're only peppers. I have no sympathy for somebody 314 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: who goes out of the way to whack a cop. Gee, 315 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you're lucky if you're only gonna get pepper sprayed. Oh yeah. 316 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: And I mean this is what bugs me is that 317 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: it's always the story becomes bigger because the cops were physical. Yeah, 318 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: not because two people were once again shoplifting from a 319 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: store and they have gotten physical with the security guards. 320 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: It's only when the cops respond because because they're supposed 321 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: to know better and be above all this, how dare 322 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: they act like? 323 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're not in the news business. Everybody is 324 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: in the Let's create a fake, dramatic story to grab 325 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: people's attention. That's what they do in the news departments 326 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: in La. Boy, that's bad. That's a stinker. You know what, 327 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and look at all the which 328 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: channels did on this story. I'll report back tomorrow. You 329 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: you should do. I will good. Well, you'll be here tomorrow. 330 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: That's good to know. Am I gonna be here tomorrow? Yes? 331 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I am. 332 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: I can't arrive the day if I am six forty 333 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: live everywhere. 334 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app. 335 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 336 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 5: Am six forty. 337 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: On the radio from one until four after four o'clock. 338 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: The iheartapp has the John and Ken podcast Johnny Can 339 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: on demand and you could listen to what you missed. 340 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the moistline tomorrow, so leave a message 341 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: one eight seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven 342 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: seven sixty six four seven eighty eighty six. We find 343 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: out today that well Madonna had to be revived with 344 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: nar can. But Donna was found unresponsive in her home 345 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: on June twenty fourth. It was a big story that 346 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: she had to be taken to the intensive care unit. 347 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: Then they said she had a bacterial infection. But now 348 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: we find out that they administered an injection of narcan, 349 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: although the story from Radar Online they're still around Radar online, 350 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: is that she was not an overdose. Also, you use 351 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: narkan to combat septic shock and that may have been 352 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: the reason that they tried to revive her with narcan. 353 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, if she had a bacterial infection for a month, 354 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: it infected the bloodstream and eventually your whole body starts 355 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: to shut down and the septic shock causes extremely low 356 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: blood pressure, which is also what overdosing on opioids does. 357 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: So the narcan attacks that particular symptom to bring you 358 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: back to life. 359 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: Well, the one thing I read in this story that 360 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: I thought was a little she's sixty four years old, 361 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: and apparently insiders say that she has been overworking herself 362 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: to keep up with Taylor Swift. And I'm like, yeah, really, 363 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: you need to keep up with Taylor Swift because Taylor 364 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Swift is doing four hour concerts. And I also read 365 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: that she's she's looking. 366 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: At Pink, who's in her early forties, but he's doing 367 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: aerial acrobatics at her concerts. 368 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: Right, But so Madonna had a great run. Does she 369 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: really have to think that he's Well, look at a 370 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: contemporary of the two people you just mentioned hardly. 371 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: Do you see what she's done to her face? Yeah, 372 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: well there's a picture here I'm looking at. 373 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: I mean, was that the Grammy Awards she was at 374 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: or something and everybody responded harshly to her face? Yeah, 375 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: well that's it looked completely like a plastic mold is 376 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: over it too. 377 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: It's hard for these women to be in entertainment and 378 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: have such a great career and then compete against younger 379 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: beautiful talent. Female celebrities have a tough time as a age, Yes, 380 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: but you can't get surgery that makes it look like 381 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: you got hit by a bus. I don't think that 382 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: was her intention. 383 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I'm not her intention, but wow, 384 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: she didn't. 385 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: She didn't do any research on the doctor beforehand, Like 386 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: what happened? 387 00:18:59,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: You never know? 388 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: Oh with you just don't know how your face is 389 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: going to turn out. Well, here's the trade off. 390 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: And she does look wrinkle free, but her face looks 391 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: completely stretched and. 392 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of weird. She can't. She can't like move 393 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: her lips. She can't. 394 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: That's the price of being wrinkled for there's not a 395 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: lot of wrinkles on her face. A Madonna Halloween mask 396 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: looks better than that. I mean, it's something that was 397 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: attached and because of you guys that make us women 398 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: feel that we. 399 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Have right the toxic male demands women keep up. 400 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: I never demanded Madonna do anything, you know, so he 401 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: took the toxic. 402 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: I never I know what that who's that directed at. 403 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: All? 404 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Right? 405 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: Back to the world of two stories on the City 406 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles that are worth talking about. The first 407 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: one is the Los Angeles City Council. What could go 408 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 2: wrong with this idea, a city owned public bank. They've 409 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: been trying to do this for years, and all of 410 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 2: this is part of the same big umbrella that the 411 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: American capitalist corporate system has failed too many people. The 412 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: government needs to step in, sure, So let's put the 413 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: city council in charge of it. Yeah they're not, they're 414 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: real company financially. 415 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, they have so many people going to 416 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: prison for financial crimes. Why not give them a bank. 417 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: How many councilmen do you think will embezzle from the bank, 418 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: says a fear public corruption from this absolutely influence over 419 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: politicians and all the money in the public bank. 420 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I saw last week Ridley Thomas lost his appeal. He did. 421 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: I went before his lawyers, went before a federal judge, 422 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: made a couple of stupid arguments, and the judge rejected 423 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: within a day or two. 424 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Ridley Thomas can't wait to attach himself to 425 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: his bank as soon as he gets out. The idea 426 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: of a public bank has been around since twenty eighth, 427 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: well for years. It was rejected by voters in twenty eighteen, 428 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: they were going to amend the city. He tried to 429 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: allow it, but then a year later, dipity do Newsome 430 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: signed a state law that does allow cities and counties 431 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: to establish public banks. So they put it back on 432 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: the table for the l A City council. Half the 433 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: city council will steal money from this bank, nearly half 434 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: a million dollars to the next phase of creating a 435 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: public bank. It would be would be driven by the 436 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: needs of Los Angeles communities, not private shareholders. You see, 437 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: they're making the anti capitalist corporate argument. Don't put your 438 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: money in the LA City Bank. You're never going to 439 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: see it again. Now, would the FDIC guarantee those I 440 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: don't know how that works. I never I've never heard 441 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: of this concept, at least not in a not in 442 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: a free society. 443 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't say in the story if anybody else has 444 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: done this, you know, outside of like a communist country. 445 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: They're going to be flying to Paris with your deposit. God, 446 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: if people are stupid enough this I can't wait for 447 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: this story. People are stupid enough to put to put 448 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: their money in a bank that's going to be run 449 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: by the LA City council. WHOA, that's that's gonna be 450 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: highly entertaining. What do you think is gonna happen. You 451 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: don't have your money stolen? 452 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: It's all well, they're all neglected by Wall Street. Communities 453 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: of color are not served by the banking system as 454 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: it is. So now, sure you can have a bank 455 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: that would offer low cost debt and free banking for 456 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: low income communities. 457 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: What is this nonsense? If you have money, the bank 458 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: takes your money. They don't look at your color, they 459 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: look at your money. 460 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh, you can't get any loans and you get bad service. 461 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: Well you have to show that you can pay back 462 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: the loans. 463 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: Really, they make money on loaning loaning out cash. That's 464 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: the that's their big business. That's how they make their profit. 465 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: So if you've got a good credit score and you 466 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: have a history of paying back your debts, then yeah, 467 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: they'll they'll loan your money. If they're not loaning you money, 468 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: it's because you didn't pay back the last guy. I'll 469 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: give me this nonsense. Uh. 470 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: The other la story actually takes us back to the 471 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: fourth of July. I thought I was seeing things and 472 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: I saw the headline in the story. You know how 473 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: they do gun buy back programs. They were doing fireworks 474 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: buy back programs that the Los Angeles Police Department organized 475 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: the event. They said they collected over three hundred and 476 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: eighty pounds of commercial consumer and a homemade fireworks. 477 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: It's nothing. 478 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: People got things like tickets to Dodger games or Universal 479 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Studios or gas cards. That's what they got in return 480 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: for handing over their fireworks. It was the idea of 481 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: Monica Rodriguez who created the buyback program in twenty twenty one. 482 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: It's just stupid. That is a tiny speck of the fireworks. 483 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: And I was gonna say, I believe we heard a 484 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: lot of noise the other night throughout Los Angeles. 485 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a war zone. I'm surprised your your 486 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: wealthy mountaintop neighborhood was so so crazy. Oh my god, ridiculous. 487 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: It was below John, it was below Oh. Oh the 488 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: peasants down Belower were acting up. I see, Oh, is 489 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: that what happened? Sorry about that? 490 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 491 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: Valley and Eric. 492 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: Eric Sklar contributed because he was hanging out with people 493 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 2: who were firing off illegal fireworks, Thank. 494 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: You very much. Eric was with the riff Raft. He 495 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: was I was having a great time. You should have aimed. 496 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: If you, Deborah, it's a fire zone. What's wrong with you? 497 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: Exactly? 498 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: He'd kill us all we got. We got more coming up. 499 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken k if I AM six forty Live everywhere 500 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 501 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 502 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: I AM six forty. 503 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can use that app to connect to the 504 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: Moist slide. We're going to play the calls again, Tomorro 505 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: on the three o'clock hour. Call the Tollphrey number one 506 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight seven seven 507 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: six six four seven eight eight six. 508 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: Uh. 509 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: They found a guy dead in his car in Death 510 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: Valley National Park and a parent heat victim, but he'd 511 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: make it back to his car or They noticed a 512 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: car about thirty yards off the road at ten o'clock 513 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 2: in the morning, and they responded and they found a 514 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: man dead. 515 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: This happened on Monday. 516 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: Of course, Death Valley has some of the hottest temperatures 517 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: on the planet. Deep this is darky in the park 518 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: was one hundred and twenty six. The overnight low is 519 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: ninety eight there. 520 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: This is Darwinism. The guy goes out and takes a 521 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: walk in one hundred and twenty six degree heat, the 522 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: hottest desert in the world now, the hottest desert in 523 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: the world, and he goes out during the day and 524 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have enough water. 525 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: Come on, they should cars air conditioning wasn't working. The 526 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: driver had the window down, but apparently did not survive 527 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: and died of heat related illness. 528 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's asking for it. It is. 529 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: The car had two flat tires. I don't know John 530 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: that he was hiking. I have a feeling that his 531 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: car broke down and he tried to I don't know 532 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: what he tried to do. But does he have a phone? Yeah, 533 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't say do they have service in the end 534 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: the desert there, that could be a tough place to 535 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: get So you've gotta have tons of water with you. 536 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: You go dry anything anywhere near that kind of heat, 537 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: you have to just yeah, it's just cases of water 538 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: with you. 539 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, we don't know whether or not Elon Musk is 540 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: actually gonna have a fight with Mark Zuckerberg of any kind. 541 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: But the big story today is that Meta Zuckerberg's company 542 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: introduced their own version of Twitter. 543 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: It's called Threads. Yeah, it's kind of stupid. 544 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: Thirty million people plus have already joined just in the 545 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: first day. I guess it started today. It's an app 546 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: that's built for conversations that is more productive and posts. 547 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: They're trying to, I guess, attract people that don't like 548 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: Elon Musk and don't like Twitter anymore. 549 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: So what people are gonna go there and say nice 550 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: things to each other? Well, that's fascinating. That's not human nature. 551 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: How long is that gonna last? Now? 552 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: Twitter is threatening. Threads is a copycat that has used 553 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: trade secrets from former Twitter employees that were hired by Meta. 554 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: According to a letter, Meta deliberately assigned these employees to 555 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: develop in a matter of months the copycat Threads app, 556 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: with the specific intent that they use Twitter's trade secrets 557 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 2: and other intellectual property in order to accelerate the development 558 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: of their competing app. I suppose if they can prove 559 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: that they might have a case, right, yeah, yeah, I 560 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: mean that's that's difficult to prove. But the response from 561 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: Threads people was no one on the Threads engineering. 562 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: Team as a former Twitter employee. That's just not a thing. 563 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: There's a number of these competing social media sites. None 564 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: of them have gained much traction. Uh, The primary reason 565 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: is you could say, hey, I'm going to threads, but 566 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: then all the people that you correspond with have to 567 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: go there too, and they're not going to go unless 568 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: they know all their other friends. And most people just 569 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: don't want to be bothered. Yeah, this, this, this, this, 570 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: this is the kind of category where the first one 571 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: in is going to win because it meets your needs 572 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: and there's no reason to go somewhere else because you can. 573 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: People have been leaving Twitter, haven't they. That's what I've read. 574 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: Some people make political statements because they don't mean they're 575 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: down to ten employees, right, they don't. Yeah, it turns 576 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: out you don't. You don't need that many employees maybe 577 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: not well, well, they're upset still functioning, right, they're upset 578 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: with Musk's politics, or they're upset with under the old 579 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: regime the censorship that went on. Now, you know, so 580 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: you see some home but you know, what I was 581 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: reading today that that really intelligent people don't go on 582 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: social media because they have no desire to express their 583 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: opinions to strangers or read other people's opinions. They've got 584 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: better things to do, which is what I thought for 585 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: moment one, Like if you really got something going on 586 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: in your life, why would you spend time reading other 587 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: people's stupid thoughts? And ninety nine percent of them are stupid? Really, 588 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: And I think there's a direct correlation with IQ, like 589 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: the more time you spend on social media, the less 590 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: you got going on in your head. 591 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: Uh. 592 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're never on it. You must be 593 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: a genius. Who Deborah, I was talking to you. But sure, 594 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: deb too. 595 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 596 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't really know people on any of these things 597 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: except read Facebook people. 598 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about it. Well, I have one friend that's 599 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram. That's it. All dever does is post fashion 600 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: photos and yeah, and what's wrong with that? No, but 601 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean you're not You're not constantly promoting your your 602 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: opinions or reading other people. No, I don't use social 603 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: media for that person. You just stay in touch with 604 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: your friends to show off your your dogs, right, and 605 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I promote myself right right, your your business stuff. Yes, yeah, 606 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: that's different. 607 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: All I know is the cell phone is just taking 608 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: over the world. When I see people now, all they're 609 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: doing is thumbing through their phone. That's all they're doing, 610 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: especially if they're under thirty. 611 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Especially all they are doing, especially if they're driving well 612 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: and stopped at a red light. I am going to 613 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: drag a person out of their car and beat them. 614 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: The next one who's at a green light and is 615 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: not moving because they're scrolling, I'm just warning. I'm warning 616 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: the city. I'm going to with my bare hands grab 617 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: you by the neck and drag you out, and I'll 618 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: destroy your phone. When the light goes green. You must move, 619 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: stop scrolling, Stop reading your damn stupid texts. 620 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Got almighty and now from the drug cartel world of Mexico. 621 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: Apparently one of the drug cartels has got a new 622 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: strategy to send a warning to people who might defy 623 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: the cartel's business. They've apparently been leaving body parts hanging around. 624 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: In a town called Teluca, just west of Mexico City, 625 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: a human leg was found hanging from a bridge. 626 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: Oh in a pedestrian. 627 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: Bridge, so in case you're walking over the bridge, you 628 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: would see the leg hanging there. 629 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: It's nice. 630 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: Parts of at least of the trunk of a body 631 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: was left on the street below. Other body parts were 632 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: found in another neighborhood, along with handwritten drug cartel signs nearby. 633 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: They believe the victim was a man between the ages 634 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: of thirty five and forty, and I guess they chopped 635 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: him up and left his parts in different places of 636 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: the city. They eventually discovered a dismembered body in a 637 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: neighborhood in the city's east side, along with a sign 638 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: that looked like the other sign. 639 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Not sure what the sign says. How are the cartels 640 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: able to find so many psychotics willing to chop up 641 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: human bodies? I mean, you don't see You don't see 642 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: that in America very much, right, We've got plenty of 643 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: gangs and criminals. And but there's something about the drug cartels. 644 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Do they teach him how to do this? 645 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 646 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is. There is some type of 647 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: training that then you have to go through certain bodibles, 648 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: body hacking rituals, the well. 649 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: You know, the most ruthless wins. And obviously, if you're 650 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: sending a message like this, who's going to defy you? 651 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: If someone would would actually not only murder you, but 652 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: to tear up your body and leave it all around town, 653 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: you don't want to mess with them. No, it's the message, 654 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: I know. But you're wondering who would do this? 655 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's just so many of them. I mean, This 656 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: story is constant. Remember the h the when they skinned 657 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: people's faces off their skulls and let them hanging on 658 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: lamp posts, right, yeah, I do remember that? Right Yeah? 659 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: Who even thinks of that? Let alone does it? 660 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: There's a cartel guy in charge of those thinking of 661 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: the face, what can we do? 662 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: They will intimidate people the most. There were faces hanging 663 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: on lamp posts in the Vegica. 664 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: They carved off people's skin and yeah, left it all 665 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: over the place. You're right, I'm not going to mess 666 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: with that guy, all right. He's usually the elected officials 667 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: say all the right things. Well, we must fight this. 668 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: This will bring us all together, We must fight this. 669 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm sticking here in that phrase. Do everybody when this 670 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 2: particular cartel, I'd never really heard of this one before, 671 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: the Familia mik Ocanna. They dominate that area, so they 672 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: believe that they may now be trying to take over 673 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: the state capital. This was another way of them sending 674 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: a message, don't interfere with our business, because it did. 675 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: It actually originated there in the early two thousands, but 676 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: apparently it has found a new lease on life in 677 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: this particular part of Mexico known for carrying out ruthless, 678 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: bloody ambushes of police and local residents. 679 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: In the in the area around there. That's that's their business, 680 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: all right. 681 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: We got more coming up. We'll be back on the 682 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: homeless beat. We're gonna do a story that made news 683 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: last week. And this would be bothersome if it came 684 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: to your neighborhood. How would you like it if one 685 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: of your neighbors who might have a big yard, decided 686 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: to let twenty people park their RVs in his yard. Well, 687 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: there's a stink. We'll tell you more about that story 688 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: coming up next. John and Ken KFI AM six forty. 689 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app, every Mark lad 690 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: in the twenty four hour CAFI newsroom. Hey, you've been 691 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: listening to the John and Ken Show. 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