WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Injury Adjustments? 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:17.239 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.079 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:33.639 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:38.239 and Bill Jones. Oh what a beautiful Wednesday it is 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.680 here at the Star in Frisco. Great day to be 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:45.519 outside and practice some football. So we get you started 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.800 on officially on Eagles Week this week as the Road 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:53.680 to the super Bowl continues here on Talking Cowboys. You 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.040 like that you're giving it positive TV guy to day. 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.160 You obviously have him listening to the fans. I'm not no, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.280 I'm keeping it positive. The road to super Bowl fifty 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.800 four continues on this Wednesday, October sixteenth. Is that right? 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:12.440 I believe that right. Sometimes it's good to stay out 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.920 of those Twitter mentions. You know, you can stay way 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.920 more optimistic. Jason Witton advised us on that last year 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.319 as he went into the short stint in the media. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.800 I assume he's staying out of the Twitter mentions this 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.040 year as well, especially this week as well. But let's 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.840 kick things up by talking about what Jason Garrett just 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.960 talked about and the press conference that was just completed. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.840 Here the news since we last were seated together here 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.320 breaking at Tyrone Crawford is done for the season. He's 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.039 having season ending hip surgery. And we had seen it. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.920 We had talked about it here on the show, how 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.840 he had struggled trying to get through it throughout the 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.160 first six weeks of this season. But it just came 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.600 to a head, didn't it, Mickey, This was going to 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:05.400 be the eventual resort. He knew it. He tried to 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.120 play through it, but all along, I think he was 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.320 resigned to knowing that no matter how much rehab he did, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:18.480 no matter how much training, whatever, treatment, that the end 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.120 result was going to be surgery at some point. And 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.640 I think it got to the point where they were 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.040 getting diminishing returns with him on the field, and I 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.960 think he just decided, eight years in the league, I 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.839 gotta go do this. And now you know he's got 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.360 one year left on his contract. That's a great, great 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.920 mentioned there, Mickey, But this could be this could be 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.320 career ending. I think this is he turns thirty next month, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.360 November twelve, right, and has that one year. I believe 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.680 at eight million dollars next year, and most of the 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.480 pro ration of his bonuses is gone next year. I 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.720 think maybe a million left from a reconstruction. So yeah, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.320 this is other than that. I mean, if he is 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.280 healthy enough he can come play, they can they can 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.960 manage through that. Yeah. From a financial standpoint, did where 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.400 he can make a return, the question will be can't 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.560 he come back from Yeah. And then the other thing 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.160 is from a salary cap standpoint, you go on, ir 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:15.800 that ten million dollars that he counts against the Caps 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.720 still counts, ye, So yeah, that's that hurts. Yeah, it's 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.639 tough for a guy that has played through so much here, 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.160 shoulder injuries, different things, and he's he's found. I mean, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.840 I think he's said an example for guys in the 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.920 locker room about trying, you know, playing tough, and I 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.480 think forty two snaps the last two games. Mickey said 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.640 diminishing returns, that he just tried to give him something, 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.640 and talking to him a couple of weeks ago, you 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:41.280 could sense the frustration of I'm gonna try to manage this, 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.160 but I'm going to be in pain all year long. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.360 That's what he said, and ultimately I think you know, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.760 this was something they had to do to get him 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.440 right and try to get him back next year. Well, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.720 it also gives him an opportunity to look at, you know, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:58.440 Tristan Hill, you know, and then coach mentioned about you know, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:03.920 signing a player today as well to take Crawford's place, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:07.320 which I need to get on. And Justin Hamilton, Yeah, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.600 Justin Hamilton was with Kansas City, I believe, and uh 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.320 so I need to see in the preseason what Justin 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:15.480 Hamilton brings to this. So they worked him out a 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.040 couple of weeks ago. But it gives Tristan Hill an 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:23.200 opportunity to, you know, to step up and hopefully show 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.800 some things that he hasn't shown so far. You know 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.360 that that you know, maybe some of the work that 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.159 he's been able to do at practice and you know, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.440 the effort and all that's there. I don't know if 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.640 the techniques really there. I don't know if the strength's 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.279 really there. But they need him to play some meaningful snaps. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.279 Now it's not hey get in there and get washed 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.680 the five plays you're in there, the series you're in 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.080 there and be a liability. They need him to step 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.719 up and make play. So I like what Mickey said 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.680 about the about about Crawford and potentially this could be 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.640 it for him with the Cowboys, and you know, because 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:00.120 you have to think about going forward. You know, they 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.080 they haven't signed anybody yet, you know, as far as 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.400 the quarterback and the wide receiver and stuff. So every 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.760 every dollar you can have they can go towards that. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.039 Maybe to the next season. Uh could very well be 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.040 the difference if you can get contracts done. So you know, 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.240 that's something that that was a point out, was pointed 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.000 out very well by me. But for this year, I 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.680 don't know if we've talked enough about not having him 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.279 and impacting this defense. You know what what what a 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.960 healthy Crawford could do for this group right now and 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.640 what they had to tackle, it could absolutely and even 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.080 at even if he plays some in for you yea 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.360 in the run, protecting some of the edges. I mean, 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.400 I know, I know Quinn has done a nice job 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.080 playing fifty something snaps. But I don't know if if 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.800 that's been mentioned enough by us or anybody, that not 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.000 having him has impacted just that overall versatility inside. I 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.919 know people talk about his contract and all that, but 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.720 when he's healthy he's a very underrated piece to what 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.920 they do upfront. And he's been a player that's dealt 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.520 with injury a lot, hasn't he Yes, I mean a kill. Yeah, 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.280 that's when he thought he did it again. Remember then 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.000 it was was it his knee or his foot or 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.600 something that say in training camp when he was screaming yeah. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:13.360 I mean, his versatility is so important. You have one 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.559 guy that can play two positions when you're only keeping 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.719 eight defensive linemen up Now, we've been told that Joe 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.080 Jackson can do it. But okay, he's he's been placed 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.720 in that situation. But I haven't seen any production yet 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.080 carry Hider or the same thing, and we haven't seen 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.760 the production yet. And Brian's right about about Tristan Hill. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.840 You gotta get him going, got to get him in there. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.400 He's got to be productive and he's going to get 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.560 an opportunity now because this guy they just signed is 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.000 basically a nice body. But he's been on practice squads. 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.960 I think I saw where he's He's played eight games 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.479 in the league over since twenty fifteen, So think about it, 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.360 that's four years he's been in the league and he 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.120 wasn't with anybody this year and most of his time 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.479 has been on practice squads. So again, and you know 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.680 they're looking for a cheap addition. Everybody's like, well, who 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.839 are they going to trade for? Well, that's where I 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.960 was going about your second round pick stepping in. Just 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.600 don't give up those let's trade for the second round pick. Yeah, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.560 I mean this is second round pick. Why are you 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.920 drafting it? Well? And kind of it kind of makes 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.600 you scratch your head a little bit about what's the 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.800 situation with Daniel Wise? You know, that's with him being 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.440 on the practice squad and we talked about the versatility 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.040 you know that Daniel Wise is. I think he's a 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.360 better end than he is a tackle, but they felt 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:36.000 more about going to get somebody else than bringing Daniel 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.560 Wise up. You know. So that's kind of one of 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.000 those situations where you go, well, you know, maybe Daniel 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.800 Wise wasn't ready. He is he better prepared than what 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.440 we've seen from Tristan Hill, you know. I mean there's 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.920 there's a lot of things going through my head about that, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.840 because usually that that practice squad guy would get the 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:57.000 elevation and then like okay, because we know what he 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.080 can do, they went out completely off the reservation and 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.600 when it got a guy, uh, instead of maybe elevating 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.400 a guy that they kind of knew about from you know, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.680 thirty practices in Oxnard preseason games in six weeks of 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.680 being on the practice squad here. So what does that 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.800 tell you? I know, that's that's what I'm trying to 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.720 figure out. And yeah, yeah, I can't feel too good 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.280 about that. And you know, if you're Daniel Wise, you're 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.360 probably saying, if I have an opportunity to leave, I'm gone. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.160 You know, I'm not. You know, if they're going to 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.920 bring people up off the street, off the street to replace, 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:34.240 you know, replace roster spots, then you know he might 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.160 he might be looking elsewhere if he gets that opportunity. 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.559 Can't say I've watched a lot of Justin Hamilton tape. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.559 Oh no, I got into that, That's what I'm saying. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.280 But just looking at his measurables, He's three hundred and 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.080 fifteen pounds, so a big body that they're thinking maybe 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.120 they can show up some snaps in the middle on 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.280 game day if he's active. I mean, that's you know, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.320 more of that, you know, And that's one of the 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.520 things about Crawford playing inside he's trying to do that 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.600 at two hundred and seventy pounds, by the way, and 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.920 they had him play in some one technique for times too, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.680 so that's hard at two hundred and seventy pounds. The 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.640 other thing, I see what people are asking, like, well, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.640 why didn't they have the surgery earlier. Well, even if 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.840 they had done it earlier, the hip surgery he needed, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.160 he was going to be out for the year that 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.320 he was not coming back this year, so the best 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.360 and plus, I think when we talk about surgery sometimes 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.959 we talk about it cavalierly, like, oh, just go have surgery. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.600 This is surgery. You think about that in your own life, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.120 you know, Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to avoid it, right, yeah, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.080 and you just don't go do it. It's like, okay, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.080 let you know, let's go do surgery. You try to 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.480 do everything to prevent surgery, and then when you have 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.760 to do it, then you go do it. And it's 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.760 got to the point where you had to do it. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.320 But had they done the surgery and March or April, 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:51.000 he was going to be done for this year. This 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.439 wasn't This wasn't Byron Jones surgery. Well that's Where I 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.800 was going though, is that they people asked why that 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.640 was late in the offseason. That was the last resort. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.800 They tried to rest him and rehab him and it 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.040 didn't get better, and so that's why they did it 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.400 mid offseason or whatever I was asking, is this the opposite? 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.920 Didn't he have hip problems? You know, he's talked about 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.200 being Brasidas and stuff like that, but it didn't he 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.160 have surgery on No, he did not. I asked him, 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.079 he didn't have surgery. Oh he did not. So they 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.000 just rested. They rested. Reacting Okay, well, did that makes sense? 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.839 I'm siou to thinking what were we dealing with that 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.360 in the during training camp? They just tried to manage 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.640 it and yeah, and it didn't work. And it also 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.199 had the glute thing going by the way, and I 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.839 don't know if that was in relation to the hip 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.839 causing that, but he had a pain in the you 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.840 know what? Yeah, you know. And just comparing justin Hamilton 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.960 versus Daniel Wise, that decision if there was one there, 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.680 As Rob mentioned, three hundred and fifteen pound guy Hamilton, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.880 he's more of a D tackle, He's not a d N. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.200 Daniel Wise gives you, it's more like Crawford and that's 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.560 two hundred and eighty pounds basically point by Brian both 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.680 yea lined up at both now. But but another difference 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.320 though is Wise. Obviously it is a rookie college free 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.720 agent out of Kansas. Hamilton was a college free agent 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.959 a Louisiana Lafayette. But he's got four years experience, even 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.000 if it is just on a practice squad. Played in 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.760 four games for the Chiefs last year, so he has 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.480 been on an NFL field in a regular season game. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.120 So maybe just the fact that maybe they feel like 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.000 they got too many young guys. If you if you 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.920 throw Wise and Hill and all those guys out there, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.880 I mean Jackson, Yeah, maybe maybe you're in a situation. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.199 Wait a minute, we're way too young to have to 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.760 deal with all that. Armstrong is not exactly a salty veteran. No, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.640 not either. Yeah, and then what are we hearing on Armstrong? 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.280 It sounded like maybe later in the week with the 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.320 practicing today. Yeah, but he's a stinger, and so he's 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.040 got a lot of guys not practicing today. Yeah about it. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.960 Every mound like everybody that every day finished the game 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.679 or start the game. Last week. It's not practicing today. Ye, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.719 so that Yeah, that's encouraging. That's a sarcasm button right there. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.559 I'll hit it with him. Yeah, that's yeah, that's in 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.599 your corner situation too. I mean receivers they've got, you know, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.559 they've got guys that filled in in the game. But 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.000 if you're down two corners in this game against some 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.600 of the weapons the Eagles have, yeah that's it's gonna 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.760 be a tough, tough going. But you know they have 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:28.400 the corners too, so it'll be equal. Yeah, there you go. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.600 But I'm just pointed too. If that's Shawn Jackson gets 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.559 back for Philly this week, I mean it's it's always 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.760 a challenge going up against these guys. But Mills and 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.640 Derby are expected to practice this week, but they doesn't 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.760 mean they're gonna play. They've been out for a while 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.040 and Yells hadn't played since last year. You have to 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.600 worry about the conditioning there with that, for sure with them. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.880 The thing with the Cowboys though, if I remember correctly, though, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.840 the way they could kind of get around some things 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:57.080 that they had to was that that uh that Xavier Woods, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.480 if I'm not wrong, his rookie year played slide corner. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.679 Am I right about that? By the end of the year. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.400 The end of the year is so yeah, I don't 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.880 know they really want to do that, but you know, unfortunately, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.360 could I just I just make everybody get sick of 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.880 the no no, no audible side was from Mickey's side. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.520 That's what they did on first and ten at the 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.319 eight yard line. They brought Woods down onto the line 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.520 of scrimmage play in the slot, yeah, which left Jeff 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:29.200 Heath no question, single safety high, no question. Yeah, that's 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.880 exactly right. That's the you know, the upside and the downside, 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.480 downside for sure what you're getting at there. If they 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.160 had a role in that type of role for Woods 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:44.080 and Darry and Thompson, that safety. Yeah. And as far 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.520 as yeah, I mean to me, it's it's Jordan Lewis obviously, Yeah, 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.040 Jordan Lewis. I mean to me, I just kind of 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.480 feel like though that if they had to, if they 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.160 had to, Mickey's right, the guy I mean, he did play. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.240 He was playing down, which is unfortunate because he's better 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.079 playing back. But I just remember him playing his rookie 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.240 year playing slot corner, you know, And I'm just thinking 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.120 there's no way in hell he can do this, and 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:09.599 he did it, and he did it pretty well. So 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.640 it was after that San Diego debacle on Thanksgiving Day, 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.360 when you know, when they couldn't cover anybody and they were, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.960 you know, making all kinds of plays. The next week 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.240 they started twitching their corners and safeties around and things 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.600 seemed to kind of get better. Yeah, you think things 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.280 are going bad, now, think back to after that San 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.320 Diego debacle Thanksgiving Day and where this team was at 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.520 that point in that season. Yeah. Yeah, So at this point, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.200 say neither one of those corners can play, you would 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.560 start at Woozier and Lewis, and then when you went 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.440 to Nickel, maybe you bring Woods in to play in 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:46.160 the slot instead of moving Lewis inside and good And 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.880 this is this is where, yeah, Nicky, this is where 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.840 I'm kind of thinking that we might see another I mean, 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.160 who is Okay, tell me who your fifty third player is. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.120 I'm just throwing it out there. If you have a 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.480 fifty third player in mind, tell me who it is. Well, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.280 it was Brandon Knight. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Sorry, But but 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.360 they were Mickey, they weren't gonna get rid of Brandon 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:12.200 Knight right his mind's mind, Now, fifty third has to 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:17.360 be Devin Smith. No, Devin Smith may end up starting. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.160 I was gonna say, he's been acting in active the 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.920 last two games, but they could use him, especially if 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:26.520 you with Indoor Randall Cobbin. The only reason Wilson was 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.840 up was because he could do the slot right, no question, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.720 that's exactly That's why they started him, and he could 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:36.280 do special teams along with Bryant. To me, Devin Smith's 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.200 your other starter. Okay, that's right, fair point. Are you 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.120 thinking a practice squad? I'm thinking how do you get 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.040 Donovan a Lumba up? You know, That's what I'm trying 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.200 to think. Because if you're if you're such a bind 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.920 where you're talking about playing safeties in the slots, and 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.720 we're kind of worried about the Eagles getting back Jackson 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.520 and and you know what and what they had with 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.160 all Sean Jeffrey, and then well Goodwin has to be 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.680 your guy. Then yeah, your an other corner. Yeah, and 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.000 Woods you can get creative a little bit because you 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.360 do have some safety flex but yeah, it's it's not 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.600 ideal question. Nobody, nobody, nobody's thinking about a Lumba at all. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:16.200 I mean I'm watching or Mike Mike Jackson, right, Mike 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.320 Jackson's another one. Yeah, So who would you trust there 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.800 if you had to play with Okay, just from training 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.160 camp in preseason games, who would you trust more to 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.600 play if they had to play in a game. And 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.280 this is a terrible question, but would you trust Mike 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.800 Jackson or Donovan Alumba in if you had to play 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.800 a game? Probably a Lumba because he's got a little 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.680 more experience. I think I would go with Jackson. I 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.480 think I'm going to Jackson, man, I think I'd go 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.680 with a Lumba. You're I know, I knew you would 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.680 go a Lumba, which made there's no right answer here. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.520 That's I'm saying you've got four people that kind of 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.760 feel like that that that okay to this to that 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.520 and and there's really not a great answer. Or it's 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.920 something where like we talk about sucking win through your 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:08.000 teeth when you're like Donovan a Lumba, you know, Michael Jackson, 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.359 you know you're just kind of that well, which one 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.760 of those two can help you more on special teams? 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.639 And the answer would be Jackson, right, Jackson would probably 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.920 help you more there. Yeah, but if you have I 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.520 mean Jackson also played some safety in camp. If I'm 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.840 not mistaken, that's true too, a little more fun he 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:27.760 played in the slot also. Yeah. See that's the thing too. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.680 I think, yeah, that you're right. It's a good point, Mickey. 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.320 I think that I think Richard would go with I 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.840 think his guy, he would go with a lumba just 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.439 because he has confidence that he could go out there 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:42.080 and make play. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, but 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.800 he might get three defensive holding penalties along the way. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.080 He made some play, and he'll get beat deep too. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.440 He can't. He is not gonna run well, there's no 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.320 question about that. It may not come to that. It 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.600 may not come to that. Oh you're but if they 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.760 were helpful those corners Old Mara firing can get back. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.919 Didn't sound like Anthony Brown was. No, I don't think 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.240 Anthy Brown play. I think has done. La Collins is 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.120 done for this week. Yeah, for they're thinking Byron will 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.879 I think he's got a chance. I think I agree 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.159 with nik. I think a B doesn't happen. No, I 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.960 think Abe's out. I think I think Byron Jones is 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.680 the one guy that's got a chance. We'll see there's 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.240 a chance. Did you tell me there's a chance. Why 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.200 are you losing games? I don't understand? All right, And 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.760 we haven't talked about the offense. Yeah, all right, we 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.919 talk more talking Cowboys and just a moment. 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