WEBVTT - Corey Kispert Is Excited For New Look Wizards, Congrats Klay & Meg + Only Losing 10 Games In College 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.000 The goal of that is whether we're winning or losing. 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.080 You want to try to build and maintain winning habits. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.040 And I played for a team. I mean my whole 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:08.360 college career, I lost ten games. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:15.120 Wow, that's a humble flex, Tom. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.279 Welcome back to the O G S Playmaker Originals by 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:55.720 Draft Games Corey. Thank you for joining the show, My brother, 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:01.440 what some boys? How's it going? We covered we covered 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:01.800 it earlier. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:03.000 You never forget who cooked you? 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:03.600 We covered it. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.080 I told you that yesterday killing. You never forget who 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.800 cooks you Friday? I know you got your keep it 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.360 keep it clean. He cooked us killing, gave us a 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.600 thirty ball in DC cook us Killing. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.200 Natty liked that. I took that person. And you never 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:19.039 forget who cooked you. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:19.200 Man. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.520 Man got busy on it. He got he got a ratchet. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.160 Now we're going we're gonna go ahead and rip this 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.119 bandit off quick though. Yeah, let's just rip the bandit off. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.600 We lost the national championship game unfortunately, Michigan State. You 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.400 guys losing a national championship game to Baylor. But y'all 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:35.679 were thirty one and oh going into the game. Talk 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:36.520 about the pain of that. 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.400 I'm just like pressure man, pressure at all time high. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.240 Like you you don't want to talk about it. It's 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.800 when you're throwing a no hitter, Like you don't say that, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.680 you don't mention it to the picture. We all knew 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.200 what was going on, We all knew about, you know, 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.160 the pressure that came with and we're looking at each other. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.160 Like we got to make this happen. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.800 I don't know if you remember the game before, yes, yes, 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.800 so like emotional. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.200 High, feeling great, like on the natty. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.480 Finally we had to put it behind us and try 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.200 to put our best foot forward against Baylor, and like 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.720 they truly just like hit us in the mouth, and 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.680 like eight minutes into the game we were down by 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.960 like fifteen or twenty and it was just an up 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.440 little slog to get back. We couldn't make it happen. Yeah, 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.680 it burns man to have that record B thirty two 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.080 and oh would have been like one of the best 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.760 come on accomplishments of my life. One of the best 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.520 teams ever, absolutely ever. Yeah, and now we're just kind 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:26.160 of like, you know, you. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.440 Talked about that jam and Sugg shot. 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:29.840 It was interesting because I did on ESPN, I did 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.920 a top five all time college game winners, tournament game winners, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.280 and that was in my top five. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.800 Absolutely, that was absolutely that was. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:38.640 An incredible shot. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.040 I mean the pressure, the season that you were having, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:42.960 the record that y'all had to knock that shot down. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.160 I mean, everything that came along with that shot was incredible. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.440 Yeah, I mean we he single handedly kept a lot, kept. 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.040 The run a lot, Yeah, and a dope shot. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.320 I mean, freshman only year Gonzaga like all that. Like 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.200 he it was awesome. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:57.399 Yes, forgive that whole team. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:01.760 So it was you, suggs me, sugs, Timmy nim hard. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.720 He can play me too, he can really play. So 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:22.040 he trans he transferred in from Florida. Yeah, uh, and 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.920 he transfer. He wasn't supposed to play that year, and 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.320 he had like that. You couldn't transfer without sitting out 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.720 at that point. And he filed the filed the waiver 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.720 and it got accepted. But before I got accepted, he 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.919 was on the scout team. And I didn't know much 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.200 about Andrew. I didn'tatch him play at Florida. And he 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:37.960 shows up and it's him and four walk ons and 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:42.240 he's frying us all camp long. He's frying us, And 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.360 like you said, you never forget who fries you. And 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.360 so when cod when Fewy came in and like told 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.160 us the news that Andrew's gonna play, We're like, oh, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.400 thank god, Like he's on our team now, Like thank god. So, 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.800 I mean, obviously he helped us out a ton and 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.960 big reason why we got there, and he's gotten even 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.440 better and now is an amazing nbable What a dope. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.960 Team I got an I got another analogy though. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.000 You talked about the knowledge of all us losing, and 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.560 I think I'm not mistaken. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:07.560 All of us married our. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.200 College sweetheart, right, all of us just saying that because 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:11.640 they hear. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.880 All married that sweethe. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.000 It's a big part of it. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.960 Bro, Yeah, we all married co swet House. So we 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.360 all got some sense shout out putting up the show 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:26.120 for show seeing seeing the potential early. I damn tee 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.000 the titter in that line, you know that line. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:30.120 Yeah it's America. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.400 I'll be honest, thank you, domesticating. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.120 And so we talked about the end of of Gonzaga. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.800 Let's talk about the beginning. Obviously, being from Washington, was 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.839 Gonzaga always like that's where I wanted to go? 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.760 No, not even really. I grew up a University Washington fan. Okay, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:49.560 I watched Brandon Roy and Isaiah Thomas. Those guys were 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:55.520 Brandon exact, remember that exactly. And then they recruited me first, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.200 so that was kind of like the dream for a while. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.479 But then they had their coach was a about ready 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:01.480 to move on. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:02.679 The coach. 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.240 He was not ready to move on by the time 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.200 I graduated high school was moving into college, so I 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.600 didn't want to deal with a coaching change. But gon 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.640 Zaga kind of stepped in last minute. To be honest 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.200 with you, it was between them Notre Dame in Virginia 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.120 and Gonzaga stepped in last minute, and I took the 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:19.920 visit out there, and. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.440 Like immediately knew it was a place for me. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.680 It's close enough to home where family could come watch, 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:25.880 but far enough away while I wasn't going home for 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:30.440 dinner every weekend life mom and dad could come to 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.760 the games and support, but I was also free to 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.640 like make my own life. 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:35.360 Do the same thing. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:35.960 Wrote down. 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.160 He rode down the highway down exactly. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:40.760 When I if I needed to, but far enough away 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.080 where people weren't showing up at. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.240 My perfect perfect Yeah, so it was I mean, And 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.120 then the play style was perfect, the team was amazing. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:49.599 Wouldn't change it for the world. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.760 Was it always basketball for you growing up? Or did 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:52.360 you did you play? 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.600 No? I did everything everything. I did everything. I mean 0:05:55.200 --> 0:06:03.080 the seasons would change my favorite small. Were you a pitcher? Yeah, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:04.200 I pitched. I pitched a little bit. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:05.520 I mean I didn't play and so I mean I 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.040 stopped playing when I was seventh grade. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:08.520 Eighth grade. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:14.120 Probably played football, ran track, play golf, all of them. Yeah, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.960 and golf. God damn multi sport, multi sport. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:24.640 Yeahs overlapping. Oh yeah, No, I was always doing something wow. Yeah. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:30.839 Yeah, good at golf. That's dope at golf. Nothing to 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.560 do with that. I can get your drinks. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:33.800 I used to be good. Yeah. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:40.240 Stop stop it, stop it. Huh stop, don't listen to that. 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.839 That's the line. That's the hustle line. Yeah, that's the hustle. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.080 Stop that man. You see the man just got a 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:46.000 check and you want to hustle. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:47.280 Stop that man. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.479 Congratuations check, but thank you appreciate that. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.240 Talk about since we're still doing Gonzaga fuse impact on 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.680 your career and where you're at now. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.640 Yeah, tough love first of all, really like yeah, oh 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.240 my gosh. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:05.880 Yeah, he's on. It was on me. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.039 It was on me, and like from when I was young, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.880 Like it took me a long time to earn his 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.280 trust and it was like a lot of like tough love. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.640 He used to call me the dumbest smart kid he 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.200 knew in the classroom. It was a good student, but 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.480 like I would always like mess up coverages and like 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.840 foul people in the wrong in the wrong situations. Like 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.480 I didn't get the basketball sense. He's like, how can 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.400 you be the smartest um guy, the smartest literally the 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.280 smartest dumb guy or the dumbest smart guy I know. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.080 But like by the junior year, senior year, like earning 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.480 his trust and like going through the fire, like him 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.160 handing you the keys in that program, and like it 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.080 was the best, but it developed me into the NBA 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:46.920 player I needed to be. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.600 So you're laughing, but I'd be saying the same. I 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.160 used to say the same thing to Duncan Robinson. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.280 I love dunk to death, but I was like, God, 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.080 damn don Like, because for you guys to be able 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.800 to do what you do, there's a basketball IQ there. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.200 We guys got to be able to get open. You 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.440 gotta be able tonipulate the defense. There's a basketball cute there, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.000 but then it's like in some places, its like where 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:03.760 did it just go? 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.320 Like? Where did it just here? 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.720 I know you're about you, That's what am I'm looking 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.520 at you like you know what I'm saying. So that 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:11.960 I get that. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:13.680 Tell me that about shooters because I asked him the 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.760 other day why can't shoot his guard shooters? 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.880 Because they all do the same thing to each other. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.160 So how the hell does it keep working? 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.160 Yeah, job, if you go over top on the floppy, 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:26.080 he's gonna bump back. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:31.200 Why would you like? How do you guys work? Please? 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.680 Guys? And I want you guys like me. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.560 How y'all get open on each other? Oh, y'all do 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:35.800 the same. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.080 I will say this though, like elite athletes, I had 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.640 a better chance against the shooters. In my opinion, I did, 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.560 like as far as like off screens and floppies and 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.880 white pan downs. Why there was over jealous people were 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.840 easy like as a as a shooter, yes, we get 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.200 beat on certain things, but I was I was I 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.600 had to know what I was doing on the basket 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.319 floor and especially defensively. I was gonna funnel ude some way. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.520 He was gonna get what No matter what, if you're 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.280 doing wide pin downs, you're doing any high of movement, 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:06.920 you're gonna get something out of it. What do I 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.600 want him to get? And where's my health? 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:08.920 Right? 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.880 Like so to me, like if I top side that thing, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:12.280 I know he's gonna get that. We're gonna get corner. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.040 But that's what I want. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.280 But he was over jealousy. I got both of them. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.400 If you're getting. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.040 Very aggressive guy, like I got both, I got off, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:19.800 I got that, I got back door, like I got 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:20.440 all that stuff. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.920 But like shooters is no shooter. It's hard to guard shooting, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:25.520 especially with a motor. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.960 I mean, I'm not taking it away from it. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.880 Guys with motor it's tiring for everybody, no doubt. You know, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.120 like shooters that are really like you're talking about Duncan, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.599 Like Duncan's just he doesn't stop moving, right, he just 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.880 doesn't stop. So like doesn't matter how good, it doesn't 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.680 matter how how good of a shape you're in, Like, it's. 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:43.600 Hard to run around and guard. 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.520 Got it, you better get about guys like Duncan is like, hey, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.800 I'm just forcing that way and because otherwise he's gonna 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:49.480 rat race you. 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:50.480 Know what I'm gonna say. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.120 And as I'm processing this right now, you guys are 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.199 so elite that all you need is a crack, that's it. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:59.200 So I you've seen give you that. All you guys 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.120 need is a crack, because great, if you guys get 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.120 a crack, he's going up. So I got to give 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:03.880 a credit. What credit do? 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:05.560 It's been so many times where I just see the 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.680 guys and I'm like, you know, God, damn, well, that's 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.280 what you That's what you would have done. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.719 How did you let him do it? That's what you 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.240 would have done. You would have done the same thing. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.200 But it's like in the pick and roll, shooting is 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.280 no different than the pick and roll and creating an advantage, right, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:20.199 you got to give him something. You can't take it 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.720 all away, right, So it's ultimately, you know, you play 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.319 with Shane Battier. He's the biggest guy in the world 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.320 that just looking at numbers and just breaking it down 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.200 forty one point two percent here. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.760 If he can just get take down a half yes 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:32.920 here the change. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.800 Ye, shame was nuts with it. He was a leader 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.800 at it. But it's at the end of the day, 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:38.360 that's what we're doing. Okay, all right, I'm on top 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.200 this dude. The whole game. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:39.839 Cool. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.199 But then if you like, at the end of the 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.839 day again, I mean this, aggressive dudes were the easier 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.080 ones to score on on ISOs. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:48.160 That's totally different. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.800 So even though so even though you guys score on shooters, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.880 it's actually hard to score on another shoot it and 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:55.680 it would be over there athletic. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.600 Yeah, because because every shooter thinks the same way. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.800 Except that's what I was saying, I want to force. 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.160 Him to this if he makes that women, I got 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:01.640 past that. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.520 A great shot, dog, But like the over jealous ones, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.920 like like, man, those guys are way easier now when 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:08.280 you have to go when they guard you, like on 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.080 some io stuff, and they're up in your like in 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:10.600 your hips. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:11.520 That's totally different. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.120 But shooters off like why down back ashes, I know 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.920 exactly what that you gonna do. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:18.360 Yeah, And that's that's comforting. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.480 Maybe I'm being a little too critically. 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:21.959 You are. You're looking at us as white dudes. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.760 It's cool, it's a whole First of all, she said that, 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.120 I got a question, did you know who he was 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.559 before we came in? Absolutely trying to tell me you 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:30.319 probably don't know who. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:31.959 Stop it, You're ridiculous. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:38.319 I watched watched that long broke back three pointers. If 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.520 you don't know nothing about Mike, you remember that moment 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.760 he before you got here. He probably don't know who 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:43.080 I am. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:44.600 I'm al ridiculous. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.240 I bet you. I should have bet you. I should 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:47.920 have took the bet too. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.880 So now that we're talking about that, talk about you know, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.760 obviously leaving Gonzaga fifteenth pick right, yes or awesome? 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:56.520 Congratulations. 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.280 Growing up inside this Wizard organization and seeing the chain. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.840 One thing that you learn real quick is once they 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.560 start paying those paychecks, it's a profession. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:05.280 It's a real job. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.079 What was who did you lean on as a rookie 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.120 there to help you kind of guide you through this? 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.120 And now seeing these changes, you know you're gonna have 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.559 to start helping some of these other young kids. It's 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.000 all yeah, I. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.079 Mean you have to. You have to learn how to 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.560 be a pro fast, real quick. And like we've changed, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.000 We've changed multiple times, we have. I've played for two coaches, 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.040 I've had two front offices, so like change every year 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.720 pretty much, And like you have to separate the business 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.200 and the game, and you have to learn that really fast. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.760 And so like the two guys that I leaned on 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.080 for that specifically were KCP. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.360 He was one of my bets. Great, great guy. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.800 Helped me a lot through the struggles of the first 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.880 year that was the year of me, like trying to 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.360 get on the floor, trying to find minutes make an 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.960 impact in other ways besides shooting, in order to stay 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.079 on the floor longer, Like KCP was my guy for that. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.120 And then do you guys know the name Anthony Gill Oh, yeah, yeah, 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.760 I kind of got under our bench, Like you know, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.800 one of the best teammates I've ever been around, full stop, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.400 and he works his tail off. He is always in 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.679 the gym. He's in the best shape of anybody on 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:15.160 our team, bare barely plays. And so I'm shout out 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.160 to Anthony a g If you're listening, shout out to you. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.400 I got into the gym when I was a rookie 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.319 and I looked around to see who was working hardest, 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.640 and it was him out of all of our guys. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.400 And so I'm gonna go hang out with him. I'm 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.240 gonna do what he does and I'm gonna learn from him. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:28.440 And he's just so happy. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.440 By the way, tip my cap to you for don't 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.240 understand it as a rookie, as I'm on the side now, 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.280 on the agent side of business. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.640 When I help these young kids come in. That's probably a. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.160 Product of obviously playing the amount of years in college 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.800 that you did. The young kids understanding end up having 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.240 that kind of awareness. Okay, who am I gonna identify 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.000 some myself with? 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:47.280 Who am I gonna learn from? 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.280 That's gonna leave me in the right direction and not 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.400 take me the deep waters and drown me right? 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.200 And how how am I gonna get on the floor? 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:53.920 That's all to me. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:55.360 It was all about and it's about the work in 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.760 routines and habits and man, tip my hat. Yeah, I 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:58.600 mean that's a rookie. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:13:59.200 That's impressive. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.040 I got really lucky with a G two because he 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.280 was like a lot of some older guys are like, 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.360 you're a young dude, you're trying to blow up my spot. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.079 I'm not going to give you any help. He was 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:08.840 the opposite. He was like, I'm here to help you. 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.120 I'm here to make you better. He poured advice into me, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.400 imported himself into me to help me, and I would 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.079 just all I was there to do is just take 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.480 his advice work as hard as he did, and what 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:21.240 the cards followed. 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.120 They may people don't understand though, it's a it's a 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.080 it's a business totally because you have a you have 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.320 a situation there where fifteen guys are trying to get 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.640 a spot and what you said right there, and there's 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.440 none of them are unselfish like that. And so the 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.120 we talked about it all the time on the conversation 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.080 obviously our our podcast called ogs. Having real ogs in 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.520 the locker room are super important. It's like it's leading 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.240 and guiding and that without without no and being comfortable 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.360 who we are and what stage of our career we're in. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.600 And in Washington, you just haven't had that, really, No, 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.800 You've had all young players and they keep and they 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:53.600 have to that to keep trying to hit in the draft. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:54.920 It's part of the deal. It's part of the deal. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.600 Part of the I gotta give credit to Will and 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.880 them guys with credit where his credits do. They're starting 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.600 to get mature, they're starting to get CJ. Mccos, Marcus Smart's, They're. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.280 Starting to get some of these dudes in here that 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:04.800 can help. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.360 Hopefully, these younger kids are like the trays and the 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.920 and obviously above from last year and saw like they're 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:10.680 helping these dudes. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.520 So and it's and it's crazy you. I mean, I've 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.960 been this is your five from gonna be your five 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.440 for me now And I feel like a vet on 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.880 this team even though really not like I'm really not. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.640 It's like I feel old. But then you like the 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.120 moment and the moment you bring a guy like Marcus 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:29.240 or guy like CJ or Chris Middleton into our locker room, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.400 like just their presence and like their presence is like 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.920 everyone kind of like tightens up, you know, And so 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.080 it's only a good thing for them, only good thing 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.560 for us to have them in our locker room. And 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.880 they just for when they got traded at the deadline 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.840 to us last year, Marcus and Chris did and we're 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:47.720 nothing but helpful. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.760 So I mean, and now is coming in there too. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.680 I mean obviously lose Jordan, but c is coming in there, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.160 and it's a it's another one who can help and 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.920 and that's really good. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.480 You touched on it earlier, but I mean they're rebuild 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.920 after Bradley Bill and different things like that. You doing 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.080 have an opportunity to go four years of college and 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:09.120 things like that. How does that help because we don't 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:10.960 see that too much anymore, How does that help the 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:12.920 maturity of a lot of things that you're gonna deal 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.000 with because we don't see kids go I see them 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.360 when I was with Miami playing at og Road. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.920 They were coming into eighteen and nineteen. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.640 I'm telling you about what kind of notion you're using 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:22.600 where they get the chopsticks? 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.560 Like, hey, man, did you use your Yoda to day 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:26.480 this morning? Listen? 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.320 I talking about Rogie when they come in they're so young? 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.080 You did four years obviously you skipped that. But you're 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:33.800