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Speaker 2: been asked thousands of times over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Where is rich Where is he? Where has he been? Richie?

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Speaker 2: Everywhere I've gone people have asked me the same question,

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Speaker 2: where has he been? Now you can answer where have

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Speaker 2: you been? Rich Ormberger? Over the last couple of Sundays.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, thank you Steve, and sorry folks, I know

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Speaker 4: it's been a long wait.

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Speaker 1: So last Sunday I was invited to go.

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Speaker 4: To Disneyland, So took the family up north from San

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Speaker 4: Diego to the happiest place on Earth. Had a two

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Speaker 4: day run around the park. That was a blast. The

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Speaker 4: Sunday before that, it was family stuff, you know, just

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Speaker 4: a graduation, that type of thing. So we're back. We're

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Speaker 4: in the saddle again. No more days off. In fact,

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Speaker 4: it's the patriotway, right, and I'm a former Patriot, So

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Speaker 4: we're gonna do this the Bill Belichick way.

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking another day off unless I need one.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know how I feel about days off.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a foreign land for me. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you had a good time. Now your boys are

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Speaker 2: now eight and five, right, Yeah, that's correct, So eight

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Speaker 2: and five, Tie and Sebastian, And how did they enjoy

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Speaker 2: Disney I haven't been to Disneylant in a few years.

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Speaker 2: I used to go a lot, way back in the

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Speaker 2: day when it was actually affordable. With the park Hopper,

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Speaker 2: typic taking everything else, it's insanely expensive these days.

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Speaker 4: Is it still the happiest place on earth? Listen, what

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Speaker 4: you said is somewhat true. You know it'll run you,

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Speaker 4: you know, some cash, there's no doubt. But there are

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Speaker 4: ways to you know, if you especially now with like

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Speaker 4: the world of the Influencer, there's a lot of people

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Speaker 4: online who will help you save some bucks, find ways

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Speaker 4: for you to uh, for you to do things a

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Speaker 4: little bit more frugal around Disneyland, or a trip to

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Speaker 1: But it really still is the happiest place on earth.

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Speaker 4: We've probably been as a family about a half a

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Speaker 4: dozen times now, and every time we go we have

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Speaker 4: a good time. In fact, we haven't had anything less

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Speaker 4: something to do this summer, it is It is an

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Speaker 4: absolute blast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My now, growing up kids would tell you you do

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Speaker 2: I'm on a mission. When I go to Disneyland, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be the first guy in the park. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: knock off some of the big rights early before the

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Speaker 2: line's form. It's constant movement. Let's go, go, go, go go.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hit as many things as we poss we can,

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Speaker 2: which is also going to be the theme of our

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Speaker 2: show today because Richie, we got a lot to catch

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Speaker 2: up on a very busy time in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: First of all, a happy Memorial Date weekend to everyone

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Speaker 2: out there. What's planned for the Orenburger family. It's got

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Speaker 2: to be a little barbecue action something going on this WEEKO.

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Speaker 1: You know me so well.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, this morning, at around eight o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 4: I went over to the supermarket. I picked up a

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Speaker 4: got the dry rub all over them. They're currently smoking

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna pull them from the grill. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: Buddy, Wow, that's ry wow, Oh so good. All right,

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Speaker 2: So we got a lot to do today, Richie. By

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Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals the Dallas Mavericks and the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 3: Let's catch up a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit on what's been going on with these NBA Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: Of course, yesterday Celtics take a three to zero series

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Speaker 2: I will say this, you know, we are destined to

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Speaker 2: have our sixth different NBA champion over the last six years.

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Speaker 2: So you go back to Toronto, then it was the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: then it was Milwaukee, Golden State, Denver, and any one

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Speaker 2: of these four teams would obviously be the sixth different champion.

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Speaker 3: That we've had over the last six years.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'm a big believer in having a

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Speaker 2: I always think it's good for the league. The one

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Speaker 2: Rich over the last couple of years is a little

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Speaker 2: I mean, has it ever happened We're two road teams

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Speaker 2: to me, it's actually created a little more intrigue in

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad that you mentioned that, because I've been

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Speaker 4: really disappointed with the NBA playoffs so far, and it's

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Speaker 4: for reasons that we've discussed before in years past that

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Speaker 4: I think the NBA needs to find a way to

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Speaker 4: rectify in the early rounds of the playoffs, teams give up.

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Speaker 4: We've seen it so many times this postseason. In the

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Speaker 4: Game six. When you're playing seven game series and you're

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Speaker 4: you know, you can take a quarter off and you

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened with Boston.

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Speaker 4: The Heat was they were having an unbelievable shooting night.

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Speaker 4: I think it was Game three. I forget. There was

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Speaker 4: even blame them. If I'm playing in a seven game

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Speaker 1: Bye bye. I'm pulling my starters. I'm getting these guys

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Speaker 4: It's about two months worth of playoff series, and I

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Speaker 4: until we got to the Eastern and Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 4: Now it really feels like every single game matters. You're

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Speaker 1: However, I will say.

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Speaker 4: If the little engine that could, the Minnesota Timberwells, find

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Speaker 4: and they have big enough personalities that it may actually

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Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with that part of it. Look, and

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge Anthony Edwards fan. He's gonna have many

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Speaker 2: going into this postseason young stars like Shay Gilgess, Alexander

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Speaker 2: for Dallas Now, I've had to live with this every

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Speaker 3: That was three weeks ago, and I remember, and.

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Speaker 2: This was classic Hartman. Like last last week we had

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Speaker 2: And all year long, you know, the Nuggets would just

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Speaker 3: Are they playing with fire here?

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Speaker 2: You know, just assuming we're going to be home and

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Speaker 3: And then I'm watching Denver. They're up twenty in the

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Speaker 2: It's over, okay, Denver is gonna move on and they

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Speaker 2: Every once in a while, there's a story that becomes

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Speaker 2: You're either going to get people to support what you

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Speaker 4: A better argument, and many people have, by the way,

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Speaker 4: we live in a country where you're allowed to. So

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Speaker 4: I have no problem with what Harrison Bucker did. I

438
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Speaker 4: don't think it's wrong. I do think that he could

439
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Speaker 4: have potentially sacrificed his career to say what he said

440
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Speaker 4: if the Hunt family felt differently than they do, or

441
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Speaker 4: if this made a big enough problem for him with

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Speaker 4: his head coach. I mean, they're there are those things

443
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Speaker 4: and we've seen that in the past. But if we're

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Speaker 4: just talking about a citizen of the United States speaking

445
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Speaker 4: out publicly about their views, he's well within his rights

446
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Speaker 4: and those rights are protected well.

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Speaker 2: And the only thing I would have added to his speech,

448
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Speaker 2: if you're going to go down that path, because he

449
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Speaker 2: singled out the women and your role as a mother

450
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Speaker 2: and as a wife, I would say to the young

451
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Speaker 2: men in the audience that you know, obviously you're going

452
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Speaker 2: to choose a path for your career, but let's keep

453
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Speaker 2: in mind that what's most important to you if you

454
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Speaker 2: decide to get married is being a husband and a father.

455
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to sing a lot being

456
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Speaker 2: a wife and a mother, same thing with the guys

457
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Speaker 2: being a husband, if you choose that path, that's the

458
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Speaker 2: only thing I would have added to it, might have,

459
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Speaker 2: you know, settled things down a little bit. But again

460
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Speaker 2: it's just one of those stories. It just continues to linger.

461
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Speaker 2: Hopefully can turn the page. And by the way, if

462
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Speaker 2: he was the kicker for the Jackson Old Jaguars, this

463
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Speaker 2: would not be a story.

464
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Speaker 1: No, it would not be.

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Speaker 3: But he's the three.

466
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Speaker 2: Time Super Bowl champion kicker of the Kansas City Chiefs,

467
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Speaker 2: and that's why this is a big story. All right,

468
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Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending right now. This man

469
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Speaker 2: riches on a marathon run. Here at Fox Sports Radio,

470
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Speaker 2: Kevin Wired is in. Every time I look up, there's

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Speaker 2: Kevin's face. And now all the way through Tuesday, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 8: Day five out of seven over this holiday weekend. Wow,

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Speaker 8: and I'm putting it in time.

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Speaker 3: I love that. There we go.

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Speaker 8: Well, we do have some bad news for the Atlanta Braves.

477
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Speaker 8: They were playing a game, they're still playing a game

478
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Speaker 8: against the Pittsburgh Pirates sand Earlier in the game, Ronald

479
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 8: Acunya Junior going down on the base pass with a

480
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Speaker 8: non contact knee injury. He was on the ground holding

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Speaker 8: his knee in pain, had to be helped off the field,

482
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Speaker 8: and it did not look good for the Brave slugger.

483
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Speaker 8: And they're trailing the Phillies by seven games, so this

484
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Speaker 8: very well could impact their ability to chase him down

485
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Speaker 8: in that division race. Elsewhere in Major League Baseball, the

486
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Speaker 8: Reds and Dodgers Cincinnati going for the sweep against Los

487
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Speaker 8: Angeles and right now they're in a rain delay in

488
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Speaker 8: the top of the sixth inning when Cincinnati on top

489
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Speaker 8: four nothing and with five innings in the books. This

490
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Speaker 8: game could be called and made official if the rain

491
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Speaker 8: does not subside, so the Dodgers hoping the weather clears

492
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Speaker 8: up over in the Queen City Blue Jays and Tigers.

493
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Speaker 8: Toronto has now taken the lead against Detroit. It's eleven

494
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Speaker 8: to nine. They're in the bottom of the eighth inning.

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Speaker 8: Up in Detroit. Brewers and Red Sox still scoreless in

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Speaker 8: the fourth inning, Mariners leaving the Nationals for nothing in

497
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Speaker 8: the fourth inning. At the Nation's Capital, Royals and Ray

498
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Speaker 8: scoreless in the fourth inning. Giants lead the Mets two

499
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Speaker 8: to one. In Queens and the Oils White Sock still

500
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Speaker 8: in a rain delay. They wanted to get that game

501
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 8: started over an hour ago, but still has yet to

502
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Speaker 8: get going. It is raining over on the South side.

503
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 8: Rangers and Twins just getting started in Minneapolis. They are scoreless.

504
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 8: MATC Charles Leclair winning the Monaco Grand Prix after holding

505
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Speaker 8: out Oscar Piastre for most of the race. So it's

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Speaker 8: the first win in his home country and the Indianapolis

507
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 8: five hundred under a weather delay. They had a severe

508
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Speaker 8: thunderstorm warning in Indianapolis, so there's no word on how

509
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 8: long that delay will last. Rangers and Panthers Game three

510
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 8: of the Eastern Conference Finals in the Stanley Cup, and

511
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 8: it's coming up at three o'clock Eastern. That series tied

512
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 8: at one game apiece. In PGA Tour, golf news regarding

513
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 8: Grayson Murray was updated this morning. His parents, issuing a

514
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 8: statement through the PGA too, are announcing that his cause

515
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 8: of death was by suicide. And right now we do

516
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 8: have a live update. Davis Riley in the lead of

517
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 8: the Charles Schwab Challenge at thirteen under par Scotti Scheffler

518
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 8: three strokes back.

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Speaker 3: He is ten under for this tournament.

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Speaker 9: Back to you guys, all right.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much once again, Kevin. We're here on

522
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman and Rich Ornberger. Now, Rich,

523
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: you know me. I'm a big Indy five hundred guy.

524
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: It's really of my generation when I still remember the

525
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: heyday of the Indy five hundred, back in the days

526
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Speaker 2: of AJ Foyd and the Unser brothers and you know,

527
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Mario Andretti, all these legendary names of racing back in

528
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: the day. It's it's a great spectacle. Now here's what

529
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: makes me a little nervous, so they have Finally, they

530
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 2: had to evacuate one hundred and twenty five thousand people.

531
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Speaker 2: Now that's not easy, right, You had to evacuate because

532
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: we're talking about severe weather situations that you know, you could,

533
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: you know, really get hurt. So they had to clear

534
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: out one hundred and twenty five thousand people. Now they've

535
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: let them back in. In the last half hour, it

536
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: has been pouring rain and now they have what they

537
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: call ninety minutes to dry the track. Now, the poll

538
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: sitter this year averaged two hundred and thirty four miles

539
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 2: an hour per lap. That's an all time record two

540
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four miles an hour per lap.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but.

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Speaker 2: They say the track is dry, okay, and let's get

543
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: back out there and start, you know, cranking out those

544
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: two hundred plus mile an hour laps.

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00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm all excited about that.

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00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: My attitude would sort of be, like, you know, tomorrow's

547
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: a holiday as well.

548
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: Can we just sort of put.

549
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Speaker 2: It off today and maybe try for tomorrow, because you know,

550
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: it only takes that one little wet spot to really

551
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: cause a problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you're talking about the millions upon millions

553
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: upon millions of dollars that have been invested in these cars,

554
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: in these crews, in these drivers.

555
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Speaker 1: They're training for these.

556
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Speaker 4: Races, and you think about what you're potentially risking going

557
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: out there on a quote unquote dry track after severe weather.

558
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 4: It's it's a lot. You're putting a lot on the line. However,

559
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: I will say this, I will say this. I was

560
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: having a discussion with somebody who recently became an F

561
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Speaker 4: one fan, and never before had they really been a

562
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: fan of car racing at all, certainly not Formula one,

563
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: but they started to get into Formula one because they

564
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 4: realized that these drivers aren't just driving these you know,

565
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: super souped up cars. They're they're they're literally making mathematical

566
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Speaker 4: determinations all along these winding tracks. And one of those determinations,

567
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 4: like I never even considered this before, so track temperature. Right, So,

568
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: as an F one driver is coming around a bend,

569
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Speaker 4: they know, based on the temperature of the track how

570
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Speaker 4: much they need to apply the brakes to make sure

571
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Speaker 4: that they're maximizing their speed as they're taking a turn.

572
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Now, what happens.

573
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Speaker 4: If there's a tree branch that's casting a shadow over

574
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Speaker 4: part of a turn.

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Speaker 1: They are going to account for that.

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Speaker 4: They'll either ease up on the brakes or hammer down

577
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 4: on the brakes as they're going through the shadow of

578
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Speaker 4: the tree branch to make sure that they are still

579
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Speaker 4: maximizing their speed through a turn. And all that calculation

580
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: is done in hundredths of a second going hundreds of

581
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Speaker 4: miles per hour.

582
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Speaker 1: So NASCAR racers bring it back to stock car.

583
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Speaker 4: When you're watching the NY five hundred, you're watching any

584
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Speaker 4: of these races, the amount of calculations that are occurring

585
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: real time inside the minds of these drivers and over

586
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Speaker 4: the headsets from their crew chief. I mean, it's mind boggling.

587
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: So while it doesn't seem like the safest decision to

588
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: send them back out there and say, all right, boys,

589
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: let loose on the track, they've done it before, They've

590
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: seen it all before, they've trained for this. They've trained

591
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Speaker 4: on wet tracks, they've trained on dry tracks, they've trained

592
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: on hot tracks, they've trained on coal tracks. They know

593
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Speaker 4: exactly how to handle the environment.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just the opposite of what we do.

595
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Speaker 2: When it starts to rain, right, you're told, you know,

596
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Speaker 2: give a little more distance back off on the speed

597
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, and you're I mean, if you watch

598
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: Grand Prix racing, they are they'll driving driving rainstorms.

599
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: It's absolutely crazy on the streets.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Chris has become, admittedly now a huge

601
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Indie car fan.

602
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 10: Is that right, Christian? I don't know about huge, but

603
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 10: I do like watching it. I can't tell you any

604
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 10: of the names right now, but I do enjoy this

605
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 10: time of year. Indy five hundred still want to get

606
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 10: up sometimes to the Grand Prix in Detroit. I know

607
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 10: they just move that downtown out of Belle Isle. And

608
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 10: I know we have been talking about because you have

609
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 10: all what you have a history with the IndyCar race

610
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 10: that's at Long Beach, and I have expressed you several

611
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 10: times that is still my hope one of these days

612
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 10: to get down.

613
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: To Long Beach on a weekend to see that race. Yeah,

614
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: it's it's a great experience. I can understand.

615
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: If you don't understand racing fever you have watched it

616
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: from afar.

617
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: You know a lot of sports.

618
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: You know, if you've never if you've only watched ice

619
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: hockey on television, you don't really know the experience.

620
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: It's like going to the ballpark.

621
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Speaker 2: You know, in baseball, there's one thing about watching a

622
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: baseball game on TV and actually being at the ballpark.

623
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: It's very much that way in racing, and it got

624
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: under my skin and I love being there and the

625
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 2: sound it's loud and everything else. You and say, well,

626
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: what do you actually see? It doesn't matter that there's

627
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: an atmosphere to it. And then you get to meet

628
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: you know, in my case, meet a lot of these drivers,

629
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: and you know, to me, this is the thing about

630
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: being a non athlete and an observer. My entire life

631
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: in sports is when I see any sport, and I

632
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: do consider drivers athletes because they have to have an

633
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: endurance of you know, focusing when you're going that fast

634
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: where one slight jar kakashi your life. I don't know

635
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: what more has to be said in terms of athleticism,

636
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: because there's different ways to gauge that. But when you're

637
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: at that highest level, I'm always just a mate. I

638
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: just it blows me away when I when I have

639
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: that kind of conversation or witness any sport at its

640
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: highest level, it just blows me away. So yeah, I mean,

641
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: if you don't really get the racing thing, try it

642
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: one time.

643
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: Go out, go out and see it for yourself.

644
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 10: I'm telling you there's a whole world of motorsports. Like

645
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 10: I have friends who are really into it, and you know,

646
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 10: Formula Ones had a bit of a renaissance finally in

647
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 10: America with Drive to Survive. My sister, like both my

648
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 10: sisters are really into Formula When we were just watching

649
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 10: Monaco here in the studio this morning and Charles Leclair,

650
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 10: who's a big favorite of North American fans around here,

651
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 10: like Formula Ones had a moment. NASCAR has always been

652
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 10: its own thing, but like you know, I've tried to

653
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 10: dip my foot into like you know, Rally Car, or

654
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Speaker 10: into what is a GT in Britain or even you know,

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Speaker 10: we hear stories about La Mon's. But most of my

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Speaker 10: friends who are into motorsports say that as much as

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Speaker 10: they watch NASCAR, it feels like Indy Car is the

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Speaker 10: nice sweetsot that they like between Formula Ones pump flair

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Speaker 10: and the speed and just the endurance of the races

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Speaker 10: that you would get with NASCAR. Just Indy Car is

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Speaker 10: you know, something that could really take off again at

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Speaker 10: some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just, like I said, I've been a big racing fan,

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Speaker 2: so hopefully they'll get this underway. But my recommendation is

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Speaker 2: put it off till tomorrow. You don't want to because

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Speaker 2: even if they do get back on the track, the

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Speaker 2: chances of them running all two hundred laps is remote,

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Speaker 2: so you get a shortened race. They only need one

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Speaker 2: hundred and one laps to call it an official race.

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Speaker 2: I want the full five hundred miles, so let's wait

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Speaker 2: until tomorrow night. Coming up on the other side, another

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Speaker 2: big story that persists, but this one I have a

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Speaker 2: better understanding why. The big question is where do we

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Speaker 2: go from here? We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

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Speaker 2: from the tirerack dot Com studios. Well, another story rich

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Speaker 2: that persist is Caitlin Clark and last night Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: and the Indiana Fever.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Now we're actually learning the names of some of these

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Speaker 2: WNBA teams that have been in existence for a while,

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Speaker 2: but we never cared. Question is how many people really

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Speaker 2: do care?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Again, they packed the house in Vegas. The two time

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Speaker 2: champion Vegas Aces blew out the fever. Kaitlin Clark only

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Speaker 2: had eight points, two of eight shooting. She had a

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Speaker 2: bad night, but it doesn't matter. I mean, they had

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Speaker 2: nineteen thousand at Crypto dot Com arena, and those that

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Speaker 2: I know that were in attendance said there was more

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Speaker 2: excitement for that game between two of the two worst

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Speaker 2: teams in the league a year ago. Remember they had

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Speaker 2: the first two picks in the draft with the Sparks

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Speaker 2: and the Fever, than any Clippers game that was ever played.

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Speaker 3: There was more.

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Speaker 2: Excite minute Crypto dot Com for that game than any

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Speaker 2: Clippers game.

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Speaker 3: Ever, how long is this gonna last? Rich?

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Speaker 2: I mean, her team is one in six. Her numbers

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Speaker 2: by and large have been ordinary. She's had a couple

702
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Speaker 2: of highlights, made a couple of late threes after mifteen

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Speaker 2: seven in row against the Sparks to finally get the

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Speaker 2: Fever a victory. Is this going to continue on for

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Speaker 2: eternity throughout the career of Caitlin Clark? That she have

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Speaker 2: to do something to keep the interest and what do

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Speaker 2: you believe is going to be the long term impact

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Speaker 2: on the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: Well, women's sports are far more popular overseas than they

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Speaker 4: are in the United States. It's been that way for

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Speaker 4: years and years, women's basketball, women's volleyball. There's a couple

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Speaker 4: of women's sports who have paid their athletes far better

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Speaker 4: for many many years, who have had more fame. I

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Speaker 4: should say, the at have had more fame overseas in

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Speaker 4: certain countries than they have in the United States. So

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Speaker 4: it's a cultural thing, right, you know. There are just

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Speaker 4: certain countries who have a culture that supports women's sports

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Speaker 4: more at the professional level than we've seen in this

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Speaker 4: country so far. So there is precedent for this, it

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Speaker 4: just hasn't happened here. And so what has to change

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Speaker 4: in order for a culture to start changing their habits? Well,

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Speaker 4: in our time now, I think influence. I think influence

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Speaker 4: now is the tail that wags the dog. Like for example,

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Speaker 4: who is one of the biggest celebrities on the planet

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Speaker 4: and arguably one of the best entertainers on the planet,

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Speaker 4: Kim Kardashian. Kim Kardashian was famous before she was an entertainer,

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Speaker 4: and she was famous for the reasons we all remember.

728
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Speaker 4: The sex tape went viral, and then her mother, Chris

729
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Speaker 4: was able to parlay that fame from this sex tape

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Speaker 4: into a billion dollar enterprise that includes.

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Speaker 1: A television show.

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Speaker 4: Multiple spinoffs have said television show that has netted the

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Speaker 4: family hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars based

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Speaker 4: off of that initial fame that Kim Kardashian got from.

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Speaker 1: A sex tape.

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Speaker 4: Well, Caitlyn Clark is an immensely talented person, right. The

737
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Speaker 4: only thing she really shares in common with Kim Kardashian

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Speaker 4: is they're both women. But Kitlyn Clark, like, she is

739
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Speaker 4: a phenomenal basketball player, and also she has this incredible influence. Right, So,

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Speaker 4: the only way for culture to shift their attention toward

741
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Speaker 4: new viewing habits or interest in somebody or something that

742
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Speaker 4: they hadn't had interest in before is to have an

743
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Speaker 4: influencer who forces them to and Kitlyn Clark is that influencer.

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Speaker 4: She has created a gravitational pull. She has made it

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Speaker 4: so that people are actually, for the first time in

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Speaker 4: my lifetime, interested in professional women's basketball in this country.

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Speaker 4: I know, there have been many NBA players who have

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Speaker 4: been immensely supportive of the WNBA, the late Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 4: there have been many others because they had involvement or

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Speaker 4: they had you know, interest outside of just you know

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Speaker 4: the game of basketball. You know, in case of Kobe,

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Speaker 4: it was gg his daughter who was on track to

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Speaker 4: play you know, basketball at the collegiate level and maybe

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Speaker 4: one day being the WNBA. And so we've had people

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Speaker 4: try in the past to get more attention and more

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Speaker 4: eyes on the sport, but we've needed the influencer and

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Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark is that person.

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Speaker 1: She brings the fame requisite to change habits and she

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Speaker 1: already has. If you look at the opening five.

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Speaker 4: Games of the WNBA this season, they average one point

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Speaker 4: four to three million viewers. That was beating the majority

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Speaker 4: of the baseball games that were played during those days.

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Speaker 1: So already the WNBA, at.

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Speaker 4: Least in certain nights, certain moments, has overtaken Major League

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Speaker 4: Baseball at times.

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Speaker 1: That has never happened before.

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Speaker 2: Well, but also part of it rich is the controversial

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Speaker 2: comments that people have made about her celebrity being a

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Speaker 2: straight white woman in the WNBA, and they feel like

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Speaker 2: because she is, that she should not be getting the attention,

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Speaker 2: that that's the reason she get the attention. But every time,

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Speaker 2: and we see this in the political arena, every time

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Speaker 2: you call out somebody because you don't like them or

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Speaker 2: what they stand for, you're only drawing more attention to them.

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Speaker 2: So as long as people continue to weigh in on

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Speaker 2: her presence and her celebrity, it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: plus for her and a plus for the WNBA. We

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Speaker 2: got much more coming up a very busy Sunday. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. Rolling along here on a very

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Speaker 2: very busy sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: all right. We'll see if the ND five hundred does

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Speaker 2: get underway after a lengthy rain delay. Also, of course,

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Speaker 2: we got Game three of the Western Conference Finals in

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Speaker 2: the NBA between the Tea Wolves and the Mavericks, as

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Speaker 2: we are racing to you know, the NBA Finals, the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final. It's that time of the year as

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Speaker 2: we then get into the dog days of summer. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about death, not death in terms of

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Speaker 2: an individual, but death of college sports as we have

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Speaker 2: known it. The PAC twelve last night had their conference

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Speaker 2: championship game between Arizona and USC and the PAC twelve

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Speaker 2: championship game in baseball, Arizona winning in a walkoff in

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the ninth. It is the last event

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Speaker 2: with the title PAC twelve. Yep, that is the end

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Speaker 2: of the Back twelve. Meanwhile, we now officially have the

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Speaker 2: end of amateurism at the collegiate level. And of course

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Speaker 2: this is stemming from a decision made to stem the

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Speaker 2: tide and all kinds of antitrust lawsuits against the NCAA

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Speaker 2: that Power five schools will now directly pay their athletes.

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Speaker 2: So that officially ends the amateur status in terms of

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Speaker 2: collegiate sports at that level. You know, trying to explain

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Speaker 2: this where we go from here literally could take.

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Speaker 3: A week of talking.

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Speaker 2: But here here's two things I want to bring up

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Speaker 2: with you rich in terms, and let's just focus in

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Speaker 2: on college football, because obviously it's it's the big one.

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Speaker 2: It's the one that makes the most money for the colleges,

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Speaker 2: the universities. It's why so many officials it's connected with

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Speaker 2: the ends, have become so insanely rich. And why now

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, with nil money, many

816
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Speaker 2: of the college stars have become millionaires. Here's what they're

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Speaker 2: trying to do, Rich and I'm gonna see if they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be successful on either one of these.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with this.

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Speaker 2: One of the big problems facing college football is the

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Speaker 2: transfer portal. Sure, it's becoming a nightmare because not only

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Speaker 2: are you looking to get players through the portal, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to not.

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Speaker 3: Lose players through the portal.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a big reason why Nick Saban

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Speaker 2: said enough's enough, at least for him personally. I just

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Speaker 2: don't want to have to deal with all this, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of coaches, veteran coaches have voiced similar opinions.

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Speaker 2: So what they're trying to do here with the players

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Speaker 2: being directly paid by the universities is this. They're gonna say,

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Speaker 2: all right, so we're gonna pay you X amount of dollars,

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Speaker 2: and in order for you to get that money, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna sign an exclusive contract with us. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: you know you'll be recruited and we're gonna pay you

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Speaker 2: this amount of money, and you're gonna sign a no

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Speaker 2: trade clause, no transfer clause, four year contract with this

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Speaker 2: university to avoid that transfer portal. It's obvious that that's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be accepted. From the player's standpoint, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: try to unionize to try to battle this. I mean, folks,

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Speaker 2: if you think this is messy, now, you haven't seen

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Speaker 2: anything yet.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's gonna this is gonna go labor action.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be strikes, there's gonna be walkouts, there's

844
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Speaker 4: gonna be sit ins, there's gonna be it's gonna get

845
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Speaker 4: real crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've had freedom now over these last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: and guys have taken advantage.

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Speaker 3: And we don't know the specifics in the nil money.

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Speaker 2: You know, these collectives that have been put together by

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Speaker 2: the universities to pay these athletes. None of this has

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Speaker 2: really been told. Is exactly how much money we speculate.

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Speaker 2: We hear all this money being thrown and around. But

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Speaker 2: let's just start with that one. Rich The idea of

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Speaker 2: the schools essentially trying to eliminate the transfer portal situation

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Speaker 2: by contracting these players and then in return gets some

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Speaker 2: sort of guarantee that they're going to fulfill the terms

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Speaker 2: of the contract, much as they did back.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it used to be you got

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Speaker 2: a scholarship from a university if you wanted to transfer,

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Speaker 2: you would have to sit out an entire year, sure,

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Speaker 2: which really was a deterrent for players to transfer if

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Speaker 2: you did. But most didn't. And they want to get

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Speaker 2: back to that. How feasible is.

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Speaker 1: That it's not.

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Speaker 4: It's not not without some sort of compensation, And that's

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Speaker 4: what this is all about. Look, I mean, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of antiquated things that we now look back on

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Speaker 4: and we say, yeah, geez, you know, that may have

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Speaker 4: been effective, but it's not right.

871
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, that may have worked in most.

872
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: Cases even but it doesn't mean that it worked for everybody,

873
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 4: and it doesn't mean that it was the right thing

874
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 4: to do. And I think college athletics, you know, specifically

875
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: college football, men's basketball, the amount of money that those

876
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 4: sports generate for their universities and the executives who run

877
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: those universities, and for the conferences and the directors of

878
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: those conferences that run those conferences, and for the NCAA

879
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: and all of their executives as a whole, they were

880
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: taken advantage of. Like listen, I mean, there was a

881
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: time here in this country, and it wasn't that long

882
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 4: ago where people felt okay to smack a kid around

883
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 4: when they were out of line.

884
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: They would do it in public. They would do it,

885
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean.

886
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 4: Completely oblivious to any of the potential damages that would

887
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: come of that. Now, listen, there are still some people

888
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: who are in sport in support of raising their hand

889
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: to a child today discipline them. There's a lot less

890
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: of those people around as there were back maybe in

891
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties, you know, I mean, we're going back

892
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 4: a little ways now. There was a big movement against that,

893
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: and so by and large you don't see that anymore.

894
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: And in fact, in certain circles they consider it abusive,

895
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 4: and I would say that's the majority shared opinion. I

896
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: think that is going to be a similar track here

897
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: with the NCAA, because these are in certain cases children

898
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 4: were talking about seventeen year old men or women for

899
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: that if that matter, who are off to college, who

900
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 4: are signing up to play football or basketball for their university,

901
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 4: and they have no idea how much they're being taken

902
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: advantage of. They have no idea how much they're being

903
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: abused by this system until they're on the other side

904
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: of it and they see coaches who got paid hundreds

905
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: of thousands, if not millions of dollars diversities who benefited

906
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: and built buildings on their campus while they were playing

907
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: for them, or watched these conferences grow in esteem and

908
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: clout and signed these multi hundred million dollar broadcast rights deals.

909
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 4: And these these student athletes are looking back on their time,

910
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 4: and even if they're looking back on a two hundred

911
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 4: thousand dollars tuition paid and maybe even a little scratch

912
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: for housing and lodging and feeding themselves while they're on campus,

913
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 4: is that equitable? Is that fair at all? The answer

914
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: is no, And in most circles it's going to be

915
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: considered abusive here pretty soon. So I don't think that

916
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 4: the players are going to budge on many consolations at first,

917
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: and I think there's going to be a big collectively

918
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 4: bargained agreement. I think the players will unionize. It's already

919
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: happening on certain college campuses, and we've only just opened

920
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 4: Pandora's box. There's no way to close it, and everything

921
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 4: is going to change as a result.

922
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: Now, there's one other aspect that is no one has

923
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: an answer for yet, but it is the elephant in

924
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: the room. Title nine. Title nine still on the books.

925
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: If you're not familiar with Title nine. It basically says

926
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: this is that all scholarships are treated equal, whether you're

927
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 2: the star quarterback or a member of the women's rowing team.

928
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: So what's happening here with these Power five schools is

929
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: they have, you know, twenty million dollars to disperse to

930
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 2: the athletes and Title nine still in the books. So

931
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: as long as Title nine's on the books, if you're

932
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: going to compensate the quarterback, then you're going to have

933
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: to compensate everybody that has a scholarship or an athletic

934
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: connection with that university. Now that doesn't seem feasible, which

935
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: is why for years I said, you're never going to

936
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: get to this point because you're not going to do that.

937
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: You have a couple of revenue generating sports and then

938
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: you have all the other sports that it is only

939
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: because of the revenue sports. So what are we going

940
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: to see? Tell you what we're gonna see. Schools are

941
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: gonna eliminate Olympic sports. I mean, if you're not generating

942
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: money and we have to pay out money, bye bye.

943
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: So a lot of these sports are gonna go by

944
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: the wayside, including the women's sports. Now again, this is

945
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: gonna get tied up in the litigation. I mean, if

946
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: universities start cutting sports women's sports because they say, look,

947
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: we only have X amount of dollars and we got

948
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: to use it for our revenue generating sports. We're not

949
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: going to hand out equal money across the board, that's

950
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: gonna end up in a courtroom as well. I mean this,

951
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: this reaction to these antitrust lawsuits to me was like

952
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 2: a quick fix for a day, but it's it's not

953
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: feasible down the road. I mean, I I understand their frustration,

954
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: but they don't have a legal legs to stand on.

955
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: And I look at you know me, I'm a college

956
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 2: sports fan.

957
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: First.

958
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't love my professional sports and

959
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: recognize the pros to the best of the best, but

960
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: I've always loved college sports and.

961
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: It's a passion of mine.

962
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: By the way, Rich, I was in Atlanta a couple

963
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: of weeks ago at the College Football Hall of Fame

964
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: doing research.

965
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: Just updates you there you go.

966
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: You know, it had been a while, so I did

967
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: remember when I did that when we were doing our

968
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: show about five years ago. I just dined in three days,

969
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: never left the room, nine hours a day, just eating

970
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: through college football media guys like most normal people do,

971
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: of course. So this is my concern moving forward because

972
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: again it's never been healthier. There's a lot of interest

973
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: now with obviously the women's game in basketball going to

974
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: the next level, but thanks to Caitlin Clark and a

975
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: lot of people liking what they see obviously with men's

976
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: basketball and of course the Big one college football. But

977
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: I think this is this is threatening the future college sports.

978
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: At least says we have known it now for more

979
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: than one hundred years.

980
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

981
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, let me let me refute a couple of

982
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 4: points you made here real quick, and I will be quick.

983
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Title nine. Title nine is a.

984
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 4: Civil rights law where if you have if you have discrimination,

985
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: or if you're proven guilty of discriminating against athletes in

986
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: the case of gender by not providing or ensuring that

987
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: you're providing equal opportunity for all genders in education and

988
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: athletics and admissions and financial aid, then then you can

989
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 4: be brought up on whatever it would be. I guess

990
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: you would call it charges that you're or violations of

991
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 4: Title nine.

992
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: But if you are.

993
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: Straight up paying athletes salaries, if they are now considered

994
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 4: if these men's athletes, these college basketball players or these

995
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: football players are considered in employees of the university. You're

996
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: you're not infringing upon Title nine as far as my

997
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 4: understanding of the rule, so there there will not have

998
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: to be equal provisions of financial aid. If you're not

999
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: providing financial aid, if you're not awarding scholarships anymore, and

1000
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 4: you're just paying student athletes to be employees of the university,

1001
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 4: then Title nine is irrelevant in this conversation as far

1002
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: as my understanding.

1003
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Now, listen, I'm not I don't understand all the legalies.

1004
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: I'm not a lawyer. I'm not adjudicating this in court.

1005
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: I imagine there's somebody who understands Title nine better than

1006
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: me who might be shouting down this argument. But as

1007
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: far as I can read, as far as I can understand,

1008
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: I don't.

1009
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think this.

1010
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: Falls under a completely separate category. Because if the University

1011
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: of Alabama, for example, wants to employ all of their

1012
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 4: student athletes on their football team to now be employedloyees

1013
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: of the University of Alabama, why would you then have

1014
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: to award one hundred or so or eighty or so

1015
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: whatever scholarships to any female athletes on your campus that

1016
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: you're not providing financial aida anymore. You're literally rendering pay

1017
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: for services rendered. So I think we're getting into a

1018
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: completely different realm now, and I think this is the

1019
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 4: bypass for these universities to still collect an immense amount

1020
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 4: of profits paying athletes and avoiding infringing upon Title nine.

1021
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: That's my opinion of it. I don't know how.

1022
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 4: It's all going to shake out, but I imagine that's the

1023
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 4: reason why they're going this route.

1024
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 3: It's going to be an unbelievable college football season.

1025
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. My Bruins are now with your Nidney Allions. Who

1026
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: would have dreamt thirty years ago, forty years ago, before

1027
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: the Penn State Nidney Allons joined the Big Ten, they

1028
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: were an independent East Coast independent. UCLA is a West

1029
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: Coast team that's somehow, some way in the field mature.

1030
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: They would be teammates in the Big Ten. It's just

1031
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: impossible to predict. We got a twelve school playoff coming up.

1032
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: It is going to be an unbelievable college football season

1033
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: coming up. On the other side, one of the NFL's

1034
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: biggest stars is full of himself. A few of them

1035
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: are but this guy takes it to another level.

1036
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: We'll tell you who this is. Fox Sports Sunday.

1037
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey, Rich Ormberger, Fox Sports Sunday, We Alive from

1038
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: the tyraq dot com studios.

1039
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: All right, we need.

1040
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: To delay this broadcast for a moment. Here for a

1041
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: Memorial Day barbecue update from Rich Ornberger.

1042
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: What is the status of those ribs right now? Rich?

1043
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: Wow, it's amazing. You know what. You truly are a foodie.

1044
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: And not a lot of people know this.

1045
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 4: About Steve Hartman, but Steve Hartman, the quickest way to

1046
00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: this guy's heart is through his stomach. I've ever met

1047
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: somebody who can equal my feasting, but I've witnessed Steve

1048
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: Hartman take down a gigantic burrito in about five bites.

1049
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 3: How about the Orne Burger? Yeah, four bites.

1050
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 11: That was.

1051
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 4: It was like watching a python unhinges jaw to take

1052
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 4: down an elk.

1053
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: It was. It was actually kind of disturbing. Yes, the

1054
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: update on the barbecue.

1055
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 4: So the ribs went three hours smoking at one hundred

1056
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: and eighty degrees on a trigger grill. I yanked them

1057
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: off at the show break just now, and I laid

1058
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: them down, meat side down in foil on top of

1059
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: four pats of butter with brown sugar. So now they're

1060
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 4: gonna go back to bed on that tragger grill for

1061
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 4: about another two hours, just soaking in the brown sugar

1062
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: and the butter. They're already dry rubbed. The dry rubbed

1063
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: is already. It's already you know, intermingled with the meat.

1064
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: It had a perfect the bark on it as I

1065
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 4: was as I was closing up the tinfoil and putting

1066
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 4: it back in the triggers. So we got two more

1067
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 4: hours of smoke with them covered now, and then I'm

1068
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 4: going to take them off. We're gonna do a little

1069
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: light lathering of barbecue sauce to a final thirty minutes

1070
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: and then we're ready to eat.

1071
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: Now as your five year old Sebastian overcome his total

1072
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: disdain for.

1073
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 4: Meat, absolutely not absolutely believable.

1074
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: By the way, this guy is Rich's twin.

1075
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like Tie favors your wife, and and there's

1076
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: no doubt Sebastian is a mini rich Ormburger and he

1077
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: had this kid refuses to eat.

1078
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 4: Meat any I mean any or all meat, Turkey chicken burgers, nuggets,

1079
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: deli turkey, deli, chicken, roast, beef, beef of any kind.

1080
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: Steak.

1081
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: I mean, even if you whisper the word steak to him,

1082
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: he'll start to wretch.

1083
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: He hates since he was old enough to eat solid foods.

1084
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh, you guys used to try to sneak it in

1085
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: on the little guy. Yeah, yeah, no, he get detected immediately,

1086
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely crazy. All right, I don't know what kind of

1087
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: eating habits Aaron Rodgers had as a child.

1088
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers to me personally, has.

1089
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: Gone over the top. So I mean, you know, secluding

1090
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 2: himself in his room. I mean, outrageous comments this guy's made.

1091
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: But the latest was just textbook now for Aaron Rodgers

1092
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: when he was asked about the Jets being featured on

1093
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: no less than six primetime games, by far the most

1094
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: of any team in the NFL, despite their seven to

1095
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: ten record a year ago, and.

1096
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: He said, look, whether you like me or you hate me, you.

1097
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: Want to watch me.

1098
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 9: You want to watch me.

1099
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: You want to you.

1100
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: Want to watch me? And I'm like, okay, here here is.

1101
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: My reality of where Aaron Rodgers is right now in

1102
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: his NFL career. He's forty years old, he'll be forty

1103
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: one in December. Forget last year, forget the four plays

1104
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: season and eight injury with the Achilles. Let's go back

1105
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: to his last year in Green Bay, coming off back

1106
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: to back MVP seasons, his play in twenty twenty two

1107
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: was subpar, not just by his standards, by league standards,

1108
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: and I dare say there were very few teams that

1109
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: had a bigger upgrade in terms of quarterback production between

1110
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: twenty two and twenty three than the Green Bay Packers

1111
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: getting rid of Aaron Rodgers and inserting Jordan Love, who

1112
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: in his first year as a starter was elite and

1113
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: his numbers dwarfed what Aaron Rodgers did the previous season.

1114
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, he led the Packers to

1115
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: the postseason and a postseason rode victory against the Cowboys.

1116
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: So their doubts of major upgrade for the Packers in

1117
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: terms of the quarterback position. So I'm watching people here.

1118
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: They look at the over under on the Jets nine

1119
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 2: and a half. Oh yeah, take the over. Really, the

1120
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: only reason that Robert Sulla and Nathaniel Hacketts still have

1121
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: a job is because Aaron Rodgers insisted on the organization

1122
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: to keep them because he insists that they're my guys.

1123
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Rich and I would love

1124
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: to go over some of these over unders with you,

1125
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: because I got some thoughts on some teams that I

1126
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: think are overrated, and those are underrated. But I do

1127
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 2: not see that for the Jets this year. Do they

1128
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: have a better than average defense, absolutely, Do they have

1129
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: potentially productive skill guys, yes, But I'm looking at that

1130
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: soon to be forty one year old quarterback in December

1131
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: who hasn't really played at a high level since the

1132
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: twenty one season coming off of blown achilles, and I say,

1133
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: if you think I'd trust that he is going to

1134
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: be at that MVP level, you're kidding yourself. Not happening.

1135
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,479
Speaker 2: Go with the under on the Jets this year. They'll

1136
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: be lucky to match their seven to ten record of

1137
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: a year ago.

1138
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: All right, Well, look, I completely disagree with you, and

1139
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 4: I know and I know and I know, But if

1140
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 4: you eliminate Aaron Rodgers' name and you just look at

1141
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 4: the stats four time NFL MVP, you look at the

1142
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 4: stats of some of his receivers who are getting balls

1143
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: thrown to them by the likes of Zach Wilson and

1144
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 4: Tim Boyle. I mean, these are good players around that offense,

1145
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: and they did not have a good quarterback over the

1146
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 4: past two seasons. Insert Aaron Rodgers, or excuse me, insert

1147
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: the quarterback who shall remain nameless for this conversation. With

1148
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 4: that defense, if look a rose by another name in

1149
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: this case would sweeter because people are just turned off

1150
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 4: by Annon Rodgers. And I understand why. I understand why.

1151
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who can't stand hearing this

1152
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 4: guy talk. They think he's you know, full of it,

1153
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 4: you know from you know, just a lot of different standpoints,

1154
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 4: conspiracies or whatever, or you know, on the field. They

1155
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: don't like his smugness, or they kind of he kind

1156
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 4: of gives them a bad vibe, whatever it may be.

1157
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 4: But you his talent is undeniable. Now you add into

1158
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 4: the conversation that he's coming off of a major injury

1159
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 4: and he's nearing forty with the Achilles tear, and and

1160
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: that that.

1161
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: Gives you some pause.

1162
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 4: But he's playing a he's playing a position where it's

1163
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: a lot easier to sustain health than it is at

1164
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 4: other positions. If he was a running back, I would say, look,

1165
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 4: the chances of him being as effective as he was

1166
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 4: before the Achilles tear, no chance, right, I would give

1167
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 4: it a five percent chance. But at quarterback, like we

1168
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: saw Tom Brady and how he was able to preserve

1169
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: his career later in his career, instead of taking the

1170
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 4: show in the pockets, sometimes he lays down. Sometimes he

1171
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 4: takes a knee, and he refuses to let the defense

1172
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: hit him. Sometimes he just throws the ball at the

1173
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 4: feet of a running back who's in the backfield blocking

1174
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: because it was a house blitz. Nobody got open, you know,

1175
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 4: the hot route didn't turn around. Whatever it might be,

1176
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 4: live to fight another down. If Aaron Rodgers employs some

1177
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: of those same tactics, he could preserve his health this season.

1178
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 4: And I look at the Jets, like I said, defensively

1179
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 4: as a complete team, offensively as a complete team missing

1180
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 4: a quarterback who they signed as a free agent last

1181
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 4: year but only played four snaps for.

1182
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:34,479
Speaker 1: Them last year.

1183
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 4: So I think the Jets are at very least easily

1184
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 4: a playoff team. And so I would take the over

1185
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: on the nine and a half.

1186
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: Do you think they're having they'll have a better record

1187
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: than the Dolphins this year? Do you think they'll pass

1188
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: the Bills? In other words, if you're calling him a

1189
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: playoff team, most likely they would have to finish at

1190
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: least second in the AFC East to be a playoff team.

1191
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's put it this way.

1192
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: They're gonna have an easier strength of schedule than both

1193
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: the teams you just mentioned because they were such a

1194
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: poor team last year, you know, so the Jets have

1195
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 4: that benefit also. Look, I mean, if we're gonna be

1196
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: perfectly honest with ourselves here, if I could have Aaron

1197
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 4: Rodgers for just one season, for just one motivated to

1198
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 4: you know, shut up all the haters and all the

1199
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 4: things that we know contextually heading into the season, for

1200
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 4: just one season, and I could also have Josh Allen,

1201
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 4: and I could also have Tua.

1202
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: Who am I selecting Aaron Rodgers? Not yet? Just what

1203
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, for one season.

1204
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: Said he was nearing forty. No, he's nearing forty one,

1205
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: getting ready forty? Okay, just for one season, though, just

1206
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: for one season.

1207
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: Missed his twenty twenty two season in Green Bay.

1208
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't great. God wasn't great.

1209
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: I mean he was Did you see those four plays

1210
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: last night that I did see?

1211
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty good.

1212
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll see how this plays out. We'll

1213
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: have plenty to talk about over the course of the season.

1214
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now,

1215
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: Kevin wired the iron Man back with us right now,

1216
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: are we starting to get something? Are we gonna get

1217
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: an ndy five hundred into that?

1218
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 8: Well, they do have the have an update on the

1219
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 8: green flag time. They said four forty four Eastern time

1220
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 8: is when the green flag is supposed to.

1221
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: Be waving on a shortened rate.

1222
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 8: One laps is what they say they're gonna try to

1223
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 8: get in because that makes it official. There's a two

1224
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 8: hundred lap race, so they want to get uh fifty

1225
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 8: percent of the laps plus one more lap in too

1226
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 8: make an officials.

1227
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: Going to be okay tomorrow, push it off till tomorrow.

1228
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: Now if they have more starts coming in, I get it.

1229
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 8: But wow, yeah, so they're at least down. They're gonna

1230
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 8: get this one going at some point. Major League Baseball, though,

1231
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 8: the big news of the day Ronald Acunya Junior suffering

1232
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 8: a non contact knee injury. He was running the base

1233
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 8: pass and his knee buckled and he went to the ground.

1234
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 8: Was grabbing his knee in a pain and he had

1235
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 8: to be helped off the field and the Braves chasing.

1236
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 8: The Philadelphia Phillies are down by seven games in the

1237
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 8: nl E standings, so this very well could be a

1238
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 8: big blow to the Braves Division title hopes. As for

1239
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 8: the action going on on the diamond today in Major

1240
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 8: League Baseball, we had an outstanding game going on in

1241
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 8: Detroit as the Tigers and Blue Jays several league changes,

1242
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 8: twenty five runs combined scored before we got a walk

1243
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 8: off Thriller Faerlank.

1244
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 12: Swings Sky's at day black Field.

1245
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: This is not coming.

1246
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 13: Back, Matt fear.

1247
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 12: Letting up field and the Tigers walk it up fourteen

1248
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 12: to eleven.

1249
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: Final score.

1250
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 8: Tigers Radio Network there with the call self explanatory. The

1251
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 8: Tigers do finish off the Blue Jays fourteen to eleven.

1252
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 8: Several games going on right now, Red's and Dodgers, Cincinnati

1253
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 8: three outs away from a sweep of Los Angeles. They're

1254
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 8: up four to nothing. They're in the top of the

1255
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 8: ninth inning after a lengthy rain delay in the sixth

1256
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 8: Braves and Pirates, we were talking about Ronald the Coudea

1257
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 8: Junior going down in this game. If it is a

1258
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 8: consolation for the Braves, i'llbe at a small one. They

1259
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 8: are winning in this one four to one against the Pirates.

1260
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 8: Are on the top of the eighth inning in Pittsburgh,

1261
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 8: Brewers Red Sox. This was a pitcher's duel. It's now

1262
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 8: tie that one. They're in the bottom of the eighth

1263
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 8: inning at Fenway Park, Mariners, Nationals tied at five. At

1264
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 8: the Nation's Capitol. They're in the top of the eighth inning.

1265
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 8: Royals with a one nothing lead over the Rays. Bottom

1266
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 8: of the seventh, Giants lead the Mets three to one.

1267
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 8: In the bottom of the eighth, Rangers and Twins, it's

1268
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 8: Texas leading this one for to one in the fourth,

1269
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 8: Rockies on top of the Phillies two to nothing in

1270
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 8: the bottom of the second. They're still waiting to get

1271
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 8: it started. On the south side of Chicago, Orioles and

1272
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 8: a White Sox. That game has yet to begin. It's

1273
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 8: still in a rain delay.

1274
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 9: Thank you guys.

1275
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much. Kevin.

1276
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: All right, Rich, I got to talk about the Browny

1277
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: James situation. By the way, did you know that Bronni

1278
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: James in his senior of high school with all the

1279
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: hype made second team All League like in his league?

1280
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he.

1281
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: Made second team All League.

1282
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1283
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 4: I went back and looked at all of his career

1284
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 4: accomplishments so far, and Lebron James Junior, Bronnie is a.

1285
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: Very average basketball player.

1286
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 4: Yes, he has a very famous father who's an abundantly

1287
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: talented basketball player, arguably the greatest of all time, if

1288
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 4: not the second greatest of all time. Right, you know

1289
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: he's one behind Jordan if he isn't the number one guy.

1290
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, we're not here to have that debate. But

1291
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: I look at Bronnie and.

1292
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 4: I say, okay, here, here's a kid, and I do

1293
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 4: mean a kid who is foisted into an unthinkable situation.

1294
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean there are I mean how.

1295
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 4: Many how many people are are a celebrity son of

1296
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 4: the caliber of Lebron James. And then, oh, by the way,

1297
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 4: you do the same thing as your dad.

1298
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: And then and then on top of.

1299
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 4: It, your dad seemingly oblivious to what potential risks there

1300
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 4: are of you know, using his influence and by means

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Speaker 4: of nepotism, advancing his son to maybe schools that he

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have a chance at playing at if he wasn't

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Speaker 4: Lebron James Junior, or maybe even the NBA, which a

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Speaker 4: player of his caliber at this point in his career,

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Speaker 4: would have no chance of even sniffing an NBA career.

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Speaker 4: I mean kind of oblivious of the potential damage that

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Speaker 4: this could do to the psychology of this young man.

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Speaker 1: This is a weird dude.

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Speaker 4: This is the weirdest story in sports right now, and

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like enough people are talking about it.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because of.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are are afraid of retribution of

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Speaker 4: some sort from Lebron James because he's such an enormous star.

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Speaker 2: All right, so it is going next level because now

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Speaker 2: I remember in his one and only collegiate season at

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Speaker 2: USC Bronni James averaged four point eight points, two point

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Speaker 2: eight rebounds, two point one assist, shooting thirty six point

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Speaker 2: six percent from the field, twenty six point seven percent

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Speaker 2: from the three point line, and less than seventy percent

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Speaker 2: of his free throws.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I mean, there are literally thousands of collegiate

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Speaker 3: players that have very similar.

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Speaker 1: Stats, thousands upon thousand.

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Speaker 2: Thousands that have similar stats that obviously have no delusion

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Speaker 2: of playing at the next level. But this even goes

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Speaker 2: further when Rich Paul Agent, longtime agent and friend of

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01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,759
Speaker 2: Lebron James, obviously representing Ronnie James, has told the NBA

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Speaker 2: no two way contracts, which, by the way, is standard

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Speaker 2: for almost every.

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Speaker 3: Drafted player outside of the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Like even first round players have two way contracts where

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01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: if you know they're not quite ready to plee on

1333
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: the you know, the big roster, they'll play some G league.

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Speaker 2: Rich Paul has made it clear we will not accept

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Speaker 2: a two way contract for Bronnie James. Oh but let's

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Speaker 2: even go a step further. So apparently there are at

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01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: least ten teams that have worked out Bronnie James. Now

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: with this resume, a second team All league high school

1339
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: player who put up nothing in his one year as

1340
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 2: a collegiate player, and ten teams are working him out.

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: Why because they believe if we draft him, Dad's coming. Yep,

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: and lebron has a player option for fifty one million dollars.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Rich Paul, his agent, says he's a

1344
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Speaker 2: free agent. Technically he is because he's not going to

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way in terms of his future

1346
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: with the Lakers. If he is playing for the Lakers

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Speaker 2: next season, he will not be playing on an expiring

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Speaker 2: player option deal.

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Speaker 3: He will have an extension.

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Speaker 2: On top of that deal, that's the only way that

1351
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 2: he'll be a Laker next season.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, rich if you're the

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: Lakers right now.

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01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 2: Because you know, Lebron's played this KOI in the terms

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01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: of oh, you know, yeah, you know, Bronni's his own man.

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01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: He'll he'll make his own decision. Don't believe that for

1357
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: a second right there. But if you are to use

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: a second round pick on Bronni James in order to

1359
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: keep Lebron James.

1360
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Speaker 3: And then extend his deal.

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Speaker 2: For another fifty sixty million dollars a year for another

1362
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: three or four years, you know, forever, do you think

1363
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,919
Speaker 2: that is a wise business decision? Or if you're the Lakers,

1364
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: you say, you know, Lebron, thanks for the six years,

1365
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: thanks for the championship. We need to go in a

1366
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 2: different direction. What would you do if you're the Lakers?

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Speaker 4: One my answer is you sign Lebron. You sign him

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 4: to an enormous contract. It'll be most likely his last

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: contract that he signs as a pro basketball player. Because

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01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 4: mission accomplished. He got his son on the same team

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 4: that he plays for. And oh, by the way, they

1372
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 4: will play together that season. Whether Lebron James Junior is

1373
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 4: ready or not, because those pictures are going down in

1374
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: the family photo album, and you don't know how long

1375
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 4: Lebron James is gonna last.

1376
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: Before you know, he has.

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Speaker 4: A major injury potentially, or his body starts to break

1378
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 4: down and his court time starts to diminish, and then

1379
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 4: the Lakers have to start having hard discussions with Lebron

1380
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 4: and his team behind the scenes about how they handle

1381
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 4: his contract potentially, And that's only if if, if he

1382
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,839
Speaker 4: you know, obviously signs a long term contract, gets drafted

1383
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 4: to the Lakers and continues playing with the Lakers and

1384
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 4: gets opportunities to play with the Lakers, and oh, by

1385
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 4: the way, maybe potentially get injured. We're getting way, way,

1386
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 4: way too far down the road. But the reality of

1387
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 4: the situation is Lebron James Junior has turned Genie Bust

1388
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 4: into a winner. She had a losing record as an

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01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 4: owner prior to Lebron James showing up. Lebron James as

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 4: a Laker has a winning record. Oh, he also got

1391
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 4: you a championship. Granted it was in the bubble, but

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01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 4: they still have the Larry O'Brien in LA just because

1393
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 4: they won it in Orlando, and they didn't have to

1394
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 4: visit anybody else's home floor.

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it doesn't count.

1396
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 4: So the Lakers have gotten everything they've wanted and more

1397
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 4: from Lebron James. And the end more is the fact

1398
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 4: that Lebron James is connected to your organization and he's

1399
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 4: inarguably one of the most famous people on the planet.

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 4: So every time somebody talks about Lebron, they're talking about

1401
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 4: the Lakers. All of those impressions mean something. All of

1402
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 4: those impressions give you, give you clicks, and give you

1403
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 4: advertisement ability.

1404
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: And give you Q rating, and give you the.

1405
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 4: Level of exposure that you would have to pay tens,

1406
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 4: if not hundreds of millions of dollars a year for.

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 4: But because you are attached to a global superstar, you

1408
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 4: don't have to spend that money because you're spending the

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 4: money instead on him. So yeah, yeah, when when Bronnie

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 4: James is a Laker, because I think this is already happening, folks,

1411
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 4: when Bronnie James is a Laker, it'll be the best

1412
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 4: financial decision the Lakers can make at this point because

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: the other side of that fence, where a lot of

1414
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 4: Lakers fans are thinking the grass is greener.

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: I promise you it's not. I promise you it's not.

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 3: Well, here's the bottom line.

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01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: Even though since her father's passing, the Lakers have a

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: losing record, the fact is the Laker organization's value is

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: far greater now than it was when Doctor Buss passed away.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're going to get

1421
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: back to the current NBA playoffs. What's gonna happen tonight

1422
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: between the tee Wolves and the MAVs. Will break it down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, rich Ronberger, Fox

1424
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday Live from the tairak dot com studios. All right,

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 2: the cars are on the track in Indy. They're introducing

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01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: the drivers right now, row by row, and it looks

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01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 2: like we're going to get this Indy five hundred started

1428
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: at least today, obviously long rain delay there, Rich to

1429
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: not we got Game three of the Western Conference Finals.

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: The Dallas Mavericks are on a roll. Luka Doncic is

1431
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: on a roll right now, and Kyrie is playing a role.

1432
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: In fact, this formula for success in the NBA is

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: something I think teams need to take note of. Forget

1434
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: the third Superstar three is too much two stars and

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: then clearly defined role players playing to their best. That's

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01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 2: what Denver did last year, That's what Milwaukee did a

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01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: couple years ago. That's really seems to me the situation

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01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: Phoenix Sun's made a big mistake. I mean, the Bradley

1439
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 2: Beal signing.

1440
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,440
Speaker 3: Just was was unnecessary.

1441
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, they won sixty four games

1442
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: with Devin Booker scoring and a lot of role players.

1443
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: Then they went out to get Kevin Durant. Should have

1444
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 3: stopped there.

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: I love the makeup of this Dallas Mavericks team, but

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01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: I also am anxious to see because it seems like

1447
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 2: you haven't dismissed Minnesota.

1448
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 3: From this series yet yet.

1449
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: But obviously Anthony Edwards has to raise his game to

1450
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: the next level, which he's certainly capable of. We've seen it,

1451
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: but at this point, and I love what Jason Kidd done.

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01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: You know, I think in terms of what a coach

1453
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 2: brings to a team, his job is to get a

1454
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: team to play together.

1455
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,520
Speaker 3: His job is to.

1456
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: Define roles for players and then bide into what he

1457
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: is selling.

1458
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 3: If you can do that as a coach.

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01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: You're gonna win a lot more games than you lose

1460
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: and right now, whatever buttons, Jason Kidd is pushing. It's

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: working for this Mavericks team.

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Speaker 1: It is. It is.

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01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 4: He's got Luca and Kyrie playing like superstars, Kyrie in

1464
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 4: support of the super star Luka Doncic Now Kyrie. Look,

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 4: he still has some of the most amazing handles in

1466
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 4: the NBA.

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01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 2: I still say his basketball IQ is as elite as

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Speaker 2: there is in this league.

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Speaker 3: There are no weaknesses in his game.

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Speaker 4: I think that at times, and we've seen it in

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Speaker 4: this postseason. He can be clutched for his team and

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 4: Luke Luca, even though he hasn't been able to seize

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01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 4: a moment yet, it feels like he's on the precipice

1474
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 4: of doing that. But like we discussed earlier, Steve, I

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 4: think that there is an undeniable energy and charisma and

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 4: youthful enthusiasm about Anthony Edwards that we haven't seen in

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Speaker 4: the NBA in a long time. And I'm maybe I'm

1478
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 4: just getting too caught up on the personality and I'm

1479
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 4: losing sight of the player. But it feels like the

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 4: first hole or full package that we've seen in the

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Speaker 4: NBA in a long time. Jo Kitch is incredible. Jo

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01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 4: Kitch is an incredible basketball player. He's a great but

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 4: he's not a star because he refuses to be a

1484
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 4: star and he's a snoozer as a I know some

1485
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 4: people think he's quirky and fun. I think it's people

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01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 4: trying to make him seem more likable. I don't think

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01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 4: he really cares. Luka Doncic. Look, everything you want to

1488
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: say about Luca is true. He's a great player, he's

1489
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 4: he's fun, but you know he's not from here, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, same thing when Yannis won a championship. These

1491
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: guys are great generational talent type players.

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Speaker 3: They don't move the needle rich.

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 4: Like so when I look at Anthony Edwards and I think, like,

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01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 4: I know where Atlanta, Georgia is. I know where he

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01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 4: played college basketball at the University of Georgia. I know

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01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 4: about the youth centers that he worked for to help

1498
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,440
Speaker 4: raise his younger siblings because.

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Speaker 1: He had that tragedy in his family.

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Speaker 4: Like I can track his story and I maybe it's

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01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 4: just hope. I'm hoping that the NBA has a star

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01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 4: born in this post.

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Speaker 2: Now we're gonna see what happens. But it's gonna have

1504
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: to be a Minnesota victory or this series is over.

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Speaker 2: JP Morosio will join us. We continue on This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Hope you're enjoying your Memorial Day weekend

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Speaker 2: ABC carried the broadcast of the Indianapolis five hundred rich

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01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 2: not live, but on delay. Oh my gosh, so if

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01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: you wanted to watch it live, there wasn't any possibility

1517
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: of that. We would actually listen to the race on

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01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: the radio, and then later in the afternoon you get

1519
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 2: a delayed broadcast of the race that's already been completed.

1520
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 4: Would you pause, churning butter like when there was like

1521
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 4: a lot of action, like they were going four wide

1522
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 4: down the final stretch.

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01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 3: The calls were great. We gotta turn. We got to

1524
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 3: turn three when you guys had to turn four.

1525
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 4: When you guys were hammering shoes for the family horse,

1526
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 4: like would you pause when there was like a big

1527
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:04,799
Speaker 4: rack on the track?

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: Inevitably the way it always worked in our house on

1529
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: Memorial Day weekend. My dad was everything I'm not. He

1530
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 2: was the ultimate handyman. He was constantly doing work around

1531
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: the house, and I was his helper, except he had

1532
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: zero patience, zero patients with me. And you know, we

1533
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 2: lived in Woodland Hills, California, which, if you're not familiar

1534
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: with southern California, it's statistically the hottest city in La

1535
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: County consistently.

1536
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: I mean it's record temperatures.

1537
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: So Memorial Day used to be hot and I'd be

1538
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: outside sweating, trying to.

1539
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 3: Help out my dad.

1540
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: He was very, very not patient with me, and then

1541
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: trying at the same time to listen to the Indianapolis

1542
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: five hundred. So that was my memory as a kid

1543
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 2: of this Memorial Day weekend.

1544
01:22:59,000 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 3: But hope you're enjoying.

1545
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 2: Rich is getting ready for his big barbecue today and

1546
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: we are trying to keep you updated on everything happening

1547
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 2: in the world.

1548
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 3: Is sports.

1549
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: John Paul Morose here o. Fox Sports Radio. MLB Insider

1550
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 2: will be joining us here in about fifteen minutes. He'll

1551
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: also give us the latest on the Stanley Cup playoffs,

1552
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: which are also at the conference finals as they are

1553
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 2: in the NBA. I want to talk about this one

1554
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: NBA story though, and that is the curiosity of the

1555
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: next coach of the Lakers.

1556
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1557
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: So we've been hearing JJ Reddick almost from the day

1558
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 2: that Darvinham officially was fired. That's right, And big part

1559
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: of that is that JJ Reddick, despite having zero coaching

1560
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: experience at any level, is the podcast partner of one

1561
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 2: Lebron James.

1562
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 3: Now I heard this, We'll see if you could agree

1563
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: with this.

1564
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: And something I have brought up over the years of

1565
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: why coaches like Phil Jackson and pat Riley were so

1566
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: successful coaching superstar players and the reason I believe and

1567
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,440
Speaker 2: I had contact with both of them during their coaching careers,

1568
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: is that their egos matched or exceeded. In fact, I'll

1569
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 2: just say forget match exceeded those of.

1570
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 3: Their superstar players.

1571
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

1572
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean you would never hear a Pat Riley or

1573
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: of Phil Jackson blaming themselves for a loss ever. Ever,

1574
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: whether they made a bad coaching decision or whatever it

1575
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: may be. You would never hear it come out of

1576
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: their mouth that a loss in any way reflected on them, ever,

1577
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 2: and so their egos were of that level. And some

1578
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: people believe that when you look at JJ Reddick and

1579
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: potentially his success as a coach with a team that

1580
01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 2: has a Lebron Jameson and Anthony Davis, they may the

1581
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: comparison to a pat Riley, who again was a I

1582
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: mean j. J. Reddick was a better player than pat

1583
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 2: Riley was, but pat Riley was a former player who

1584
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,480
Speaker 2: had taken on the role of sidekick as a broadcaster

1585
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: to Chick Hern And then if you watched Winning Time,

1586
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 2: by the way, I just got three more residual checks

1587
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: from Winning Time rich two for eight dollars, one for

1588
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: six dollars, so that's twenty two dollars anyway, So if

1589
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 2: you watch that, you saw that, you know Jack McKinney

1590
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: had been named the new coach of the Lakers. He

1591
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: gets injured in a freak bike accident. Paul West said,

1592
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: was then elevated from assistant to the league coach and

1593
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,799
Speaker 2: he needed an assistant. So at the suggestion of Jerry

1594
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 2: West and Bill Sharmon. They said, pat Riley, why don't

1595
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: you just jump and we need somebody, so why don't

1596
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 2: you jump into that job? And then a couple of

1597
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 2: years later they get rid of west Heead and now

1598
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: pat Riley's the head coach of the Lakers, and the

1599
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: rest is history. So let's let's take a step back here,

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01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: because all indications are, despite the smoking mirrors and the

1601
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 2: continued interviews with all these other guys, JJ Reddick is

1602
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: going to be the next head coach.

1603
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: At the Lakers.

1604
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: It does feel that way. Oh yeah, one.

1605
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Hundred And I want to get your thoughts on that

1606
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 2: in because we've seen plenty of JJ Reddick, you know,

1607
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: as a broadcaster. But do you think there is something

1608
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: to be said about a certain ego, a certain temperament,

1609
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: even if you've never coached before at the professional level

1610
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: or any level, that he could be a success, maybe

1611
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: not with another team, but specifically this team.

1612
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I look that you have to be the

1613
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 4: type of person who thinks they're right and well, actually,

1614
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 4: let me actually correct that. I'm already off to the

1615
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 4: wrong step. You have to be a person who knows

1616
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 4: their right to lead men, because if you have any

1617
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 4: doubt in yourself. That doubt will be reflected in your

1618
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: player's minds as well. If you doubt your thought process,

1619
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: your players will smell it, and then they'll doubt you.

1620
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 4: So in order to be a great head coach, in

1621
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 4: my opinion, even sometimes when you are wrong, you will

1622
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,759
Speaker 4: prove to your players that you are right, because being

1623
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 4: right is more important than being great at the job

1624
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 4: sometimes because you need to have abundant trust to lead men.

1625
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 4: And now listen, I'm sure that's the same for women's sports.

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01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 4: I can't speak to it because I never played women's sports,

1627
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: I never coached women's sports. But I know how it

1628
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 4: works inside of a football locker room, and I can

1629
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 4: tell you right now, you can smell a fraud. You

1630
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 4: can smell somebody who's faking the flow. You can catch

1631
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 4: somebody who has self doubt. Now, I'm not saying it

1632
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 4: can't work. I'm sure there are exceptions that prove the rule.

1633
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there are outliers who are very honest

1634
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 4: and open about their self doubt, or maybe they run

1635
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 4: a more democratic team where they have players have more

1636
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 4: influence in all those but most of the teams that

1637
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 4: I've played for, most of the great teams that I

1638
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 4: played for had a dictator at the front of the class.

1639
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 4: They had somebody who, whether or not it was true,

1640
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 4: believed that they were omniscient, believe that they had all

1641
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 4: the answers. JJ Reddick fits that profile. JJ Reddick. If

1642
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 4: there's one thing he's not lacking for, it's confidence. When

1643
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 4: that guy says duke arrogance. When that guy speaks, he

1644
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 4: speaks as if like the words that are coming out

1645
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 4: of his mouth should be printed next to the you know,

1646
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 4: we should have the eleventh and twelfth Commandments and he's

1647
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 4: working on the thirteenth, you know what I mean.

1648
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: Like so, but that's good.

1649
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,639
Speaker 4: It's good if you're going to be a head coach

1650
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 4: of Lebron James of the Los Angeles Lakers in the

1651
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 4: LA market with arguably the most popular team in that

1652
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 4: market right now, are you kidding me? You absolutely need

1653
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 4: to be confident. So at least from that one data point,

1654
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 4: on that one point, there is no question that I

1655
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 4: think he has what it takes to be the head coach.

1656
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Now will it work? That's a completely different conversation.

1657
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 9: Can Can I ask you guys a question here?

1658
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Bo, mister Laker fan.

1659
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 9: Who who would you guys say, like, are the best

1660
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 9: coaches in the NBA right now?

1661
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: I think Tyleru is certainly one of them there. And

1662
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 2: by the way, just a quick side note on Tylu.

1663
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting why we're what's the weight here

1664
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: on this Reddick thing when it seems inevitable. Tylu has

1665
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 2: not signed an extension with the Clippers. And I think

1666
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 2: that and I think Tyl Lou is pretty much making

1667
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: it clear to the Clippers A.

1668
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 3: I want more money. B.

1669
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: I don't buy into this extending Paul George's contract and

1670
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: signing James Harden to a long term deal. I'm not

1671
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: sold that that's the formula to get to where we

1672
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: all want to get and that's a championship.

1673
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 10: I can throw a coach name in here, Yes, Eric Spolstra,

1674
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 10: That's that's the name I want.

1675
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 4: Is Eric Spulstra, Spolstra, Popovich, Kerry Tyleru. And I'll tell

1676
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 4: you right now, I've been very impressed with Jason Kidd.

1677
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: I would say it's about five coaches in the league

1678
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 4: right now that I think I Eric.

1679
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 9: Eric Spolstra did not play in the NBA. Yes, he

1680
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 9: did not have an opportunity he was going to go

1681
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 9: play overseas with a film guy. He was hired by

1682
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 9: the Heat as a video coordinator, correct and his way

1683
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 9: to the bench and eventually the head coach. So this

1684
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 9: idea that JJ Reddick, you know, just because he has

1685
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 9: no coaching experience, can't possibly be a good head coach,

1686
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 9: which neither nobody here has said. I know that's that's

1687
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 9: a prevailing opinion though he's he's just a podcaster. Like no,

1688
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 9: JJ Redick played forever under a lot of very smart

1689
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 9: head coaches, and there's precedent that, you know, a guy

1690
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 9: like Eric Spolstra is widely regarded as one of the

1691
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 9: best coaches. It could work. There's no reason for it

1692
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 9: not to work.

1693
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,839
Speaker 10: I do think there's two circumstances that has made Spolstra

1694
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 10: work though that JJ Reddick wouldn't have. Number one is

1695
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 10: that there's no one in the Lakers organization that that

1696
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 10: matches someone like pat Riley, at least to at least

1697
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 10: to my like. Pat Riley gave him a lot of backing,

1698
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,520
Speaker 10: especially yeah with the heatles and everything.

1699
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 2: Well, especially when Lebron joined him, and it was obvious

1700
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 2: that Lebron seemed to you know, nudge this guy, like,

1701
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 2: let's get you right. He wanted ye, and Riley's made

1702
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: it clear I'm not this is your coach?

1703
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think.

1704
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 4: I think obviously Lebron James he's played so long in

1705
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 4: this league that he's a king maker. If he wants

1706
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 4: somebody traded, he'll find a way to get it traded.

1707
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 4: If he wants somebody to be his coach, he can

1708
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 4: find a way to make him his coach. I think

1709
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 4: that JJ Reddick, most likely unbeknownst to him, was interviewing

1710
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 4: for this job long before he realized that he was

1711
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 4: interviewing for this job. And if if Lebron James wants

1712
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 4: him to be the next head coach, he will be

1713
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 4: the next head coach. And there's no further arguments about that.

1714
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 4: Now you can have the argument do we think he's

1715
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 4: going to be successful? And there's going to be a

1716
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 4: lot of opinions, and I agree with what bo just said,

1717
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 4: just because you're untested doesn't mean that you're going to fail. However,

1718
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 4: I will also add that experience does matter, and it

1719
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 4: does help usually, it doesn't always, and again there are

1720
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 4: exceptions that prove every rule and maybe getting your first

1721
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,520
Speaker 4: getting your teeth cut as a head coach with arguably

1722
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 4: one of the greatest players who's ever played on the planet, who.

1723
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: Is supportive of your rise.

1724
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 4: In the rankings as a head coach and has maybe

1725
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 4: staked some of his reputation on making you a head coach.

1726
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that helps you, and so we'll see what happens.

1727
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 4: But to say on the outset that JJ Raddick's going

1728
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 4: to fail as a head coach of the Lakers because

1729
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 4: he hasn't had any coaching experience beforehand, I think is

1730
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 4: a gross overestimation because I don't think that coaches have

1731
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 4: as big of an impact on players typically then we

1732
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 4: build them up. And I would say outside of the

1733
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 4: five coaches that we just mentioned Spolstra, pop kerr Tylou

1734
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 4: and Jason Kidd, I mean, name another five that are

1735
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 4: impactful for their team.

1736
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: You can't do it well.

1737
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 2: And but again, the one role that the coach has

1738
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: in terms of wins and losses are some late game

1739
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 2: situations where they have to make decisions. That's true, and

1740
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, how do you handle old timeouts? You know,

1741
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 2: substitution patterns and everything else. There are things and again

1742
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: this could be the difference of four or five games

1743
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 2: over the course of an eighty two game season, but

1744
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: four or five games could be the difference between being

1745
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: a six seed and a three seat.

1746
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 9: I mean that's this year.

1747
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that was the problem with Darvin Ham. I mean

1748
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 2: some of his decisions were bad.

1749
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 9: And you know, like Rich mentioned it, Jason Kidd, like

1750
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 9: we're considering him one of the best coaches right now, right.

1751
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 3: Jason Kidd had some real struggles starting.

1752
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, and he just started as a coach after

1753
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 9: he retired as a player, like the season after he

1754
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,759
Speaker 9: retired that wasn't on the bench anywhere, so, but he also.

1755
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: Had time as an assistant in the inter a little bit,

1756
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 2: a little back h all right, coming up on the

1757
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: other side, guys are going to be joined by our

1758
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 2: dear friend John Paul Morosi.

1759
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 3: The latest on what's happening in Major.

1760
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 2: League Baseball, the latest on the Stanley Cup Playoffs. This

1761
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, Rich Harberger, Fox Sports Sunday,

1762
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: once again live from the tire Raq dot Com studios,

1763
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: about to get ready for the start of the Indianapolis

1764
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 2: five hundred after a lengthy rain delay. Right now, it's

1765
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 2: a treat every single Sunday, when this man is gracious

1766
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: enough to get away from his busy schedule to join us,

1767
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: even on a holiday.

1768
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 3: The one, the only, the Great John Paul Morosi.

1769
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 2: Before we get into the sports talk here Jp, what's

1770
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: going on with the Morossi family here on this Memorial

1771
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 2: Day Sunday.

1772
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 11: Well, good afternoon, Thank you again as always for the

1773
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 11: invitation to be out.

1774
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 4: On the show.

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Speaker 11: I tell you what, it's a very unique experiences, the

1776
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 11: more of they weekend because here in Michigan, I'm about

1777
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 11: to go see my parents tonight. We're going to go

1778
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 11: to the Memorial Cup, which is the championship of Canadian

1779
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 11: junior hockey, and for the first time, it is being

1780
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 11: held in my great home state of Michigan. And so

1781
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 11: it's actually in the town next to where I grew up.

1782
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 11: And so my parents and I get a chance to

1783
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 11: go to the game. And it's very befitting. It's called

1784
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 11: the Memorial Cup. There's a lot of a lot of

1785
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 11: the theme and actually the Cup itself was dedicated to

1786
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 11: the memory of Canadian soldiers lost in World War One.

1787
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 11: So the fact that it's being held in the US

1788
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 11: now this weekend, on the worldly weekend is the honor

1789
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 11: of those who gave their lives and protection of our freedom.

1790
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 11: It's a very poignant celebration. So I'll be with my

1791
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 11: parents tonight to celebrate hockey, think about those who gave

1792
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 11: their lives and defending our freedoms, and it's a pretty

1793
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 11: thoughtful family weekend for us.

1794
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, let me just jump in here a little

1795
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: hockey question rich for JP. So right now, Rangers Panthers

1796
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 2: tied to two, two very evenly matched teams. I mean,

1797
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 2: you look at the records this year, one one in

1798
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 2: this series. I want to ask you about the Rangers though,

1799
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: because we talk about this in other sports, how important

1800
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 2: it is for the big city franchises to be relevant.

1801
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 2: You know, we've been talking about the Knicks coming short

1802
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 2: for so many years and how how it would value

1803
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 2: the league if the Knicks irrelevant or an LA team.

1804
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: Is it the same way in the NHL? I mean,

1805
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 2: how important would it be for this league? What kind

1806
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 2: of impact for this league would it have if the

1807
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,719
Speaker 2: New York Rangers were to win their first Stanley Cup

1808
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 2: in thirty years?

1809
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 11: You know, it's a great question. I think certainly there

1810
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 11: is some element to that, But at the same time,

1811
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 11: what happens if the best player in the league in

1812
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 11: Conor McDavid, finally gets the Oilers to the Cup final,

1813
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 11: and and that's the way this season ends. Certainly, from

1814
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 11: a TV ratings standpoint, you may have a team there

1815
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 11: in the Stanley Cup Final that in Canada. Therefore you

1816
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 11: would lose that market from the perspective of the Nielsen ratings.

1817
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 11: But I'm of the mind that we should worry less

1818
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 11: about what the number of TV sets are because obviously,

1819
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 11: first of all, people consume the games and watch them

1820
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 11: in different ways and think instead about how to celebrate

1821
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 11: the great stories in front of us. And when you

1822
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 11: think about New York, if they do win for the

1823
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 11: first time since nineteen ninety four, that would be a

1824
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 11: massive story. It would also be a massive story if

1825
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 11: Edmonton wins it to be a massive story if Florida

1826
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 11: wins it for the first time ever. So to me,

1827
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 11: when you look at the entire story of the Stanley

1828
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 11: Cup playoffs, we are seeing the game grow all around

1829
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 11: North America in a very profound way. So no matter

1830
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 11: who wins it, I think it's our job as hockey

1831
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 11: fans and those who love the game to celebrate the achievement.

1832
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 11: But you're right, there is no denying the power when

1833
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 11: you're at a playoff game at the most famous arena

1834
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 11: in the world, Madison Square Garden, where I was there

1835
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 11: for an amazing game during the Rangers Hurricane series, the

1836
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 11: overtime winner for Vincent Trocheck. What a great goal that was,

1837
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 11: and certainly he has been a hero throughout these playoffs.

1838
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 11: It does get a little bit differently when it's MSG,

1839
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 11: and I do think that that is a huge part

1840
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 11: of the storyline of V's at Stanley Cup playoffs.

1841
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 4: Now moving on to Major League Baseball, the sport that

1842
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 4: you literally spend the entire season on the road for.

1843
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 1: So you're in Michigan, where are you heading to next? JP?

1844
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 11: Well, a great question. I'm actually heading to Atlanta next

1845
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 11: So this week I'll get a chance to see the

1846
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 11: Braves and the up and coming Nationals. Now the Braves.

1847
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 11: I gotta admit I was a little bit nervous seeing

1848
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 11: the news today about Ronald Lacuna Junior leaving the game

1849
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 11: early due to a non contact needy issue. Now, not

1850
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 11: a doctor, I can't pretend to know what's going on

1851
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 11: with an MRI or anything like that, but certainly It's

1852
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,719
Speaker 11: concerning because we know how important he is to the sport,

1853
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 11: all that he's been able to do with Atlanta, what

1854
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 11: he did last Seeds in a historic year in terms

1855
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 11: of home runs of solo bases. The Braves, much like

1856
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 11: the Dodgers, are a great team that we know is

1857
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 11: almost certainly heading to the postseason, but that has given

1858
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 11: up some casts for concern the Braves with the Strider

1859
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 11: injury and now who knows what happens with Akunya. We

1860
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 11: wait to see what becomes of this group and how

1861
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 11: much pitching depth and position player depth they truly have.

1862
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 11: The Dodgers, I'm a little bit concerned. Their offense has

1863
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 11: been quiet the last couple of days, and I gotta

1864
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 11: admit I do wonder a bit about when exactly the

1865
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 11: Kershaw sport will be arriving from the rotation and what

1866
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 11: their needs are going to get the deadline, because it

1867
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 11: can't just be Otani every single night. Let's not forget

1868
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 11: the team it's been having the best record in the

1869
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 11: National League to this point, the Philadelphia Phillies, and they've

1870
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 11: gotten done despite the fact that Trey Turner has missed

1871
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 11: a substantial portion of the season due to injury you's

1872
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 11: got again. Had Mundo Sosa a ton of credit for

1873
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 11: the way that he's played, has shortstopped coming in. So

1874
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 11: we do focus a lot of the Braves and Dodgers,

1875
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 11: and we should, but the best team in the end

1876
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 11: Els at this point in time has been the Philadelphia Phillies.

1877
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 2: The reigning World Series champion Texas Rangers are in a

1878
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 2: free fall right now. What's going on with that team

1879
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 2: right now? Can Bruce Bochi turned this thing around?

1880
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 11: Wow, Steve, you asked the really important question, because I

1881
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 11: was looking into this earlier today. What has happened? This

1882
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 11: team hasn't won a game in a week. They've been

1883
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 11: one of the worst teams in baseball in the last

1884
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 11: two weeks. What is happening? And it's not just that

1885
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 11: they've been missing the Schurezers and the the Grams of

1886
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 11: the world. I think the bullpen has been part of

1887
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 11: the reason, but largely it's been a lack of offense.

1888
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 11: What is going on with this lineup? I think Corey

1889
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 11: Seeger has been himself, but Marcus Semi has been quiet

1890
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 11: for the last week or so. Nathaniel Lowe got bumped

1891
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 11: down in the lineup. He's batt in sixth. Now, Joonaheim

1892
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 11: has been so so to begin the year. He was

1893
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 11: remember an All Star catcher in the American League a

1894
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 11: year ago. Josh Young has been hurt. Evan Carter his

1895
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 11: production after last year being a star in the postseason,

1896
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 11: his production has really plummeted this season. So I think

1897
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 11: it's not just one struggling bat, it's multiple struggling bats.

1898
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 11: Length has been hurt, Young has been hurt. Meanwhile, you've

1899
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 11: got the Seattle Maritors leading the division. And the Maritors

1900
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 11: are a team. They're not perfect guys, but they're a

1901
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 11: team that much more often than not as competitive in

1902
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 11: each series because they're pitching.

1903
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Is that good?

1904
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 11: Dare I say the Rangers reign in the American League

1905
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 11: will end after one year? This is not going to

1906
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 11: be a World Series team in twenty twenty four.

1907
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the Dodgers.

1908
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 4: You mentioned that there are some some concerns as we

1909
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 4: head closer and closer to the trade deadline. Are you

1910
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 4: concerned with Yoshinobu Yamamoto. He had a really turbulent march,

1911
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 4: cutting his teeth in Major League Baseball with that kind

1912
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 4: of weird one off soul series as the MLB opener

1913
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 4: in South Korea, and then it seemed like things have

1914
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 4: I guess the rubber has hit the road.

1915
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,719
Speaker 1: He settled in a little bit. He had a better April,

1916
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: obviously much better May. But is he Is he.

1917
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 4: Working up to the potential or I should say, the

1918
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 4: contract that the Dodgers signed him to.

1919
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,400
Speaker 11: Well that's a that's a really good point there. At

1920
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 11: the end, they're rich because the potential. I think he's

1921
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 11: done just fine. If you got the loss today, it

1922
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 11: was in a hitter friendly ballpark against the decent Cincinnati lineup.

1923
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 11: That was for me, a fine performance. And if you

1924
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 11: take the Korea start out of the equation, he's actually

1925
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 11: been really good. I saw him pitch at first in

1926
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 11: last week. I think he's doing great. But you raised

1927
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 11: a very good point the contract. It's a history making

1928
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 11: contract for someone who before March had never thrown a

1929
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 11: major league pitch, and I think it's important to point

1930
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:27,719
Speaker 11: out there's the reason why that when you look at

1931
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 11: the National League Rookie of the Year conversation, Yamamoto is

1932
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 11: part of it. Showed to Imnaga is probably number one,

1933
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 11: And the reality is, I think MLB teams are realizing

1934
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 11: the developmental path for NTV pitchers. It works. They're developed

1935
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 11: exceptionally well in Japan, just based on the process of

1936
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 11: developing pitchers in the Japanese baseball system, and that's why

1937
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 11: there's such fascination with Roki Sasaki they believe coming over

1938
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 11: after this season. But the thing about the Dodgers guys

1939
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 11: that I think is really important to think about is

1940
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 11: that because you get the extra day of rest in Japan,

1941
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 11: that effectively it has created a six man rotation for

1942
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 11: the Los Angeles Dodgers this year, and it's working really

1943
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 11: well until it doesn't. And I do wonder if once

1944
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 11: you get Kershaw back in, Bobby Miller back in, what

1945
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 11: does that look like? Do you have enough relief pitching

1946
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 11: in enough roster spots to support the six man rotation,

1947
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 11: Because it only works if the guys in the sixth

1948
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 11: man rotation give you enough quality innings that you're not

1949
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 11: having to shuttle your relievers back and forth. And that part,

1950
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 11: when you get to the second half of the season

1951
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 11: remains to be seen. We have not seen it yet.

1952
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,879
Speaker 11: Go back and look how many times Yelmoto has started

1953
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 11: on four days rest, basically none, And I think that

1954
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 11: to me is going to be the big question. How

1955
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 11: often to the Dodgers get him extra rest and what

1956
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 11: does that mean for the rest of the Dodger rotation.

1957
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Speaker 2: I love it, love it, love it, love it all right, Well, JP,

1958
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 2: have a wonderful Memorial Day Sunday with your family. I

1959
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 2: know your your parents are huge fans of this show.

1960
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: They they're almost obsessive. Uh, And they are, and we

1961
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 2: appreciate that kind of support over the years. So give

1962
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: them our love, our respect, and enjoy this Memorial Day

1963
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Speaker 2: holiday Sunday.

1964
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Speaker 11: Thank you so much, and the same to you guys.

1965
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 11: And believe you, when I see my parents in about

1966
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 11: thirty minutes, they're going to say, you know what, Steve

1967
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 11: and rich I made an excellent point about the large

1968
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 11: market teams winning in the silicup.

1969
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 1: Well, well, I love those guys. Burger brilliant.

1970
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 11: That's exactly what they're going to say the first time

1971
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 11: I see him in about twenty minutes.

1972
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 3: That's what they say.

1973
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: JP.

1974
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 3: Listen to those guys. They know what they're talking about.

1975
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 11: All right.

1976
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,600
Speaker 4: You got such such smart friends.

1977
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 1: I know they are, JP.

1978
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 3: You're the best. We're talking next Sunday.

1979
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 11: Thanks so much, all the best guys talk to John Palm.

1980
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 2: A ROSSI yeah, I mean they're a little obsessive with

1981
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 2: this show, and I appreciate its fine.

1982
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Listen, I mean it's fine. We we knew what we

1983
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 1: were signing up for.

1984
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. All right, let's find out what is trending

1985
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: right now. Speaking an obsessive, Kevin Wired is obsessive about

1986
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,759
Speaker 2: working as many hours as humanly possible.

1987
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 8: Here A talk sport is coming up, So I need

1988
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 8: I need some money to blow. Yes, so I'm here

1989
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 8: as much as I can be, giving you all the

1990
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 8: news and score updates for as long as.

1991
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 3: I button to be here.

1992
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: So well, I know you're waiting for my next lock,

1993
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 2: so you can run to the bay.

1994
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, empty your bank account and go the other way.

1995
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Speaker 1: Exactly. That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

1997
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Speaker 8: Well, a potentially division race altering event occurred today in Pittsburgh.

1998
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't see them attending to that left.

1999
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Speaker 5: Me left me.

2000
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Speaker 13: Yeah, but of course the Braves have struggled with injuries

2001
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 13: this season. Now the rating MVP Ronald Acuna Junior glimpse

2002
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 13: off gingerly favoring that left lip.

2003
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, Ronald Cunya Junior running the base pass appeared to

2004
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 8: suffer a non contact injury to his knee. He was

2005
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 8: running the bases, his knee buckled. He went on the ground,

2006
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 8: was holding it in pain and had to be helped

2007
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 8: off of the field. So that very well could be

2008
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 8: a huge blow to the Atlanta Braves, who trailed to

2009
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 8: the Philadelphia Phillies entering today by seven games in the

2010
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 8: division standings. And I know it's a small consolation, but

2011
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 8: Atlanta did win today against the Pittsburgh Pirates eight to one.

2012
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 8: The Cincinnati Reds finish off the sweep of the LA Dodgers,

2013
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 8: winning that one for one. The Tigers get a walk

2014
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 8: off home run to beat the Blue Jays.

2015
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 12: Pearling swings Sky said, deep black Field, this is not

2016
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 12: coming back. Matt Fearling up bulb and the Tigers walk

2017
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 12: it up fourteen.

2018
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 3: To eleven final score.

2019
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 8: Feerling's home run capping up what was a very exciting ballgame.

2020
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 8: Several leaguing changes, twenty five runs combined in this game,

2021
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 8: as the Tigers do win this one fourteen to eleven.

2022
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 8: Red Sox win a pitcher's duel against the Brewers at

2023
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 8: Fenway two to won the final. There Mariners over the

2024
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 8: Nationals nine to five. The Rays beat the World's four

2025
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 8: to one, the Mets over the Giants four to three.

2026
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,799
Speaker 8: NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs. They are in the second period

2027
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 8: and the Rangers Panthers a tie that two. This series

2028
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 8: tied to one game apiece. So plenty to be sorted

2029
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 8: out here in this Eastern Conference final and a Memorial

2030
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,719
Speaker 8: Day tradition, the greatest spectacle in racing, Indianapolis, five hundred.

2031
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 8: We've had to wait a bit to get this one going,

2032
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 8: but appears were just moments away from the green flag.

2033
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 8: They're singing the national anthem right there over on the track.

2034
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 8: It's dried out and they have a green flag set

2035
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 8: tentatively for four forty four Eastern at time.

2036
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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, thank you very much

2037
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 2: once again, Kevin for all your work here Tier List.

2038
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Speaker 2: We'll be hearing that voice on a NonStop basis here

2039
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports ready for the next couple of days.

2040
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: Once again, this is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve Hartman, Rich

2041
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 2: Ornberger with you. You know, I was talking to Chris

2042
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 2: and he's suddenly becoming this over the top racing fan.

2043
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 3: You know, I probably always was, but I mean he's

2044
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,879
Speaker 3: really getting into his racing and as if ready for football

2045
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 3: to distract me. Now, no football, at least for now.

2046
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 2: And by the way, I do want to touch upon

2047
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,840
Speaker 2: a couple of the over unders on teams, a team

2048
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 2: that I think is way overrated and way underrated. I

2049
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 2: want to get to that in a moment here. But

2050
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 2: my own experience, you know, I bragg constantly that I

2051
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: am a licensed race car driver from my two times

2052
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 2: racing in the Toyota Celebrity Race.

2053
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 3: They even have like a racing.

2054
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: Reference page that I'm listed on, which is amazing to me,

2055
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: like seeing my name, you know, because I was in

2056
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 2: a celebrity race, but it was connected with Long Beach.

2057
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 10: That makes two of us, because I think I was.

2058
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 10: I think my picture in the student section for Wake

2059
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 10: Forest basketball was used quite a bit for there.

2060
01:49:56,640 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 3: It is for the fan experience. My name is actually

2061
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 3: in a range down as someone who was drunk who

2062
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 3: fell down the stairs at the coliseum. Perfect.

2063
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 2: So anyway, I was telling him that there is nothing

2064
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 2: like the start of a race. I remember the first

2065
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 2: time I raced in that race. We're doing a pace lap, right,

2066
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 2: and we got basically ten rows of two cars, and

2067
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 2: my heart's pumping you can imagine a big crowd out there.

2068
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 3: You know what am I doing out here? I know

2069
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 3: we've done a lot of training to get ready for

2070
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 3: this moment.

2071
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 2: And we come around that last turn and all of

2072
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 2: a sudden they signal you guys need to do one

2073
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:32,759
Speaker 2: more pace lap.

2074
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 3: That was good for me. I needed to settle down

2075
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 3: a little bit.

2076
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 2: But once the race starts, yeah, it's insanity. I mean,

2077
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 2: you got cars next to each other. You're trying to

2078
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 2: keep your eye on the track because you got breaking

2079
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,600
Speaker 2: points to get ready for the first turn, while you

2080
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: got you know, people positioning everything else.

2081
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 3: It's insanity.

2082
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 2: So this is always to me one of the most

2083
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: amazing spectacles in sports is the start of the Indianapolis five.

2084
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 2: You got thirty three cars on the track and they

2085
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 2: dropped that flag. We had one year, many many years

2086
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: ago where eleven cars crashed.

2087
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:10,839
Speaker 3: I remember first turn.

2088
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:12,719
Speaker 1: I remember taking out.

2089
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 3: The third of the field was eliminated on the first turn.

2090
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: So and it was a long delay.

2091
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:21,680
Speaker 4: It was like forever fifteen or maybe it was a

2092
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 4: long delay there.

2093
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: There have been a number of instances so that I

2094
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 2: always love to watch the start of the Indie five

2095
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 2: area because after that then you settle in. They got

2096
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 2: a long, long race, three hours of racing. But the start,

2097
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 2: it's insane, absolutely insane.

2098
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 4: Well, it's gonna be a big day today, no question

2099
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 4: about it. A late start due to severe weather. The

2100
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 4: track finally dried out, so they're gonna get the green

2101
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 4: flag and get going.

2102
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 1: Here the.

2103
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 4: Wind totals, I'm really curious about what win totals in

2104
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 4: the NFL season long as you hung up?

2105
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for this?

2106
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give you one team in each category,

2107
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 2: one team that's gonna exceed the over underwins we go

2108
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: by the Vegas Insider right consensus, and a team that

2109
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 2: is overrated and underrated.

2110
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 3: All right, quickly, my.

2111
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 2: Over my overrated team they're over under is nine and

2112
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 2: a half wins is the Atlanta Falcons. Kirk Cousins is

2113
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 2: remember this, we had a blown achilles from Aaron Rodgers

2114
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,679
Speaker 2: four plays.

2115
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 3: Into the season.

2116
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 2: That's right, Kirk Cousins blew out his achilles midway through

2117
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 2: a season.

2118
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

2119
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins were gonna see, but the idea that all

2120
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Braves are gonna win ten games

2121
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 2: this year, even in that week division. Sorry for the Falcons, Yeah,

2122
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean the Falcons I had. I'm looking at a

2123
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 2: Braves thing here. The Falcons are gonna win ten games,

2124
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 2: do not see it. On the other side, the Pittsburgh

2125
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,679
Speaker 2: Steelers over under is eight and a half.

2126
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Mike.

2127
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 2: Tomlin has never had a losing record, And yes, we

2128
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: don't know what we're gonna see from Russell Wilson or

2129
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, but to me, either one of them.

2130
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,600
Speaker 3: Is an upgrade from the quarterback position.

2131
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 2: They had a year before when they had a winning

2132
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 2: record over eight and a half wins for the Steelers

2133
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,799
Speaker 2: under nine and a half wins for the Atlanta Falcons.

2134
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,719
Speaker 1: Oh, go ahead, go ahead, Chris, Yeah that I'll respond.

2135
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: I am with you.

2136
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 3: On the Falcons.

2137
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 10: I think that has been a team whose offense has

2138
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 10: been thoroughly overhyped at this point, and I'm not sure

2139
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,600
Speaker 10: what really Kirk Cousins will do there, and especially with

2140
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 10: this drama that seems to be happy happening behind the

2141
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 10: scenes with the quarterback position.

2142
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 2: But on the Steelers, you think Steelers are gonna have

2143
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 2: their first losing season ever?

2144
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 10: Look it is I'm going to be healthy for an

2145
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 10: entire year because I think the Steelers got away with

2146
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 10: some luck in regards to last year quite a bit.

2147
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 4: Now let me respond because this is gonna be a

2148
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 4: first for us on this show Fox Sports Sunday. I

2149
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 4: won one hundred percent agree with Steve, So I'll answer

2150
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 4: your concerns, Chris, because I was going to just be

2151
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,559
Speaker 4: singing harmoniously with Stevie.

2152
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 10: But think of there as this brutal three four games

2153
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 10: conference game. I mean of division games, Ravens at Browns,

2154
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 10: at Bengals Browns, and then.

2155
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 3: They'll have to go the road with the Eagles and Beans.

2156
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 4: Hang on, there were last year too, and somehow Mike

2157
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 4: Tomlin with worst quarterbacks, navigated to a winning season.

2158
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 3: Last way worst quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So he's upgraded at the most important position on the

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Speaker 4: football field. And he's still, by the way, a Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame coach and was able to coach his way

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Speaker 4: out of that luke warm, tepid quarterback room last year.

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Speaker 4: He's added Russell Wilson and Justin Field, so I think

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Speaker 4: they're going to be a much better offense this year.

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Speaker 4: I oh, by the way, they fired their offensive coordinator finally,

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Speaker 4: Matt Cannada last year. That was a long time coming

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Speaker 4: go to the Falcons, where I agree that they're over rated.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take the under under win total this

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Speaker 4: season as well. Steven here's wow, wow, So Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins is coming off of a major injury. He's

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Speaker 4: also downgraded at head coach. He's going from Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 4: who's one of the brightest offensive minds in football, to

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Speaker 4: Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what all right?

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, I want to have time on

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Speaker 2: the other side. Those are my two picks. I'm on

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Speaker 2: the other I want to hear yours.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I want a team that is going to go over

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Speaker 2: their wind total and the team that's going to go under.

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Speaker 2: All right, on the other side, we continue on. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Arvin and a Rich Arburger

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday Live from the tiraq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank our illustrious crew today. Kevin wyre jumping

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Speaker 2: in doing a tremendous job and he will continue to

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Speaker 2: do so NonStop, twenty four hours a day for the

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Speaker 2: next couple of days. Chris is on the board and

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Speaker 2: uh well as usual Chris, as we watched the Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: five hundred did not even get through the first lap

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Speaker 2: without an accident. But of course, one lap in and

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Speaker 2: already the race has been stopped.

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Speaker 10: It still didn't top the wreck that we saw at Monaco. No,

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Speaker 10: so seeing Sergio Prez's car turn into a soda can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these cars are amazingly constructed these days. They can

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Speaker 2: hit the wall and they walk away. Boban's and of

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Speaker 2: course are a steam producer. Bo, you've been missing, missing

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Speaker 2: in action.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I finished school and then I went to music festival.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, now I'm back.

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Speaker 2: So I thought, because rich wasn't here, you decided to

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Speaker 2: not show up as well.

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Speaker 9: No, well, if Richard told me he was going to Disneyland,

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Speaker 9: I might have gone there.

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Speaker 1: But damn, I should have told you.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have both of you back, all right,

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Speaker 2: rich So I threw it out there using our Vegas

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Speaker 2: Insider over unders on wins for the twenty twenty fourth season,

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Speaker 2: I say, the Atlanta Falcons are an under nine and

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Speaker 2: a half and the Steelers are an over eight and

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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 3: What do you have for well?

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Speaker 1: And I agree with both of those. Here's what I

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Speaker 1: have for you.

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Speaker 4: So the Houston Texans lit the world on fire with CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud last year, and they're listed at nine and a

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Speaker 4: half wins on Vegas Insider. I'm taking the over there

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Speaker 4: over big, big, big believer in CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud and Tamiko Ryans.

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Speaker 4: I think that defense was underappreciated last year for some

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Speaker 4: of the games. Now, don't get me wrong, they were

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Speaker 4: like a sieve other times. But Ryan's that defense, that

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Speaker 4: San Francisco mentality. They improved in the trenches this year

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Speaker 4: in the draft, I should say, I think this is

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Speaker 4: going to be a much more confident team to start

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Speaker 4: this season this year than last year, and I think

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Speaker 4: they're in a very winnable division. When you start to

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Speaker 4: look around, there's a lot of question marks at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Colts are basically resetting a rookie year with Anthony Richards,

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Speaker 4: and the Titans are still a mess at quarterback. The Jags,

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Speaker 4: I'm still not sold on Trevor Lawrence, but I'm sold

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Speaker 4: on CJ. Stroud, So I'm a big believer in the Texans.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking the over on nine and a half. All Right,

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Speaker 4: here's the team who I think is gonna underperform a

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Speaker 4: low number on their win total. Because when you look

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Speaker 4: at their schedule and you try to count wins, you

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Speaker 4: have a hard time. Six and a half wins for

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Speaker 4: the New York Giants, I'm taking the under. Wow, they

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Speaker 4: have Daniel Jones slated as their starting quarterback. Yes, oh boy,

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley isn't there anymore?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: This team has gotten worse offensively this offseason from a

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Speaker 4: skilled position standpoint, and I listen, I loved what Brian

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Speaker 4: Dabole did with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is not Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: And I look at the Commanders games against the Giants

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Speaker 4: and I could see a way for the Commanders to

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Speaker 4: slip away with one of those wins. I look at

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Speaker 4: the Eagles, and I just don't think they have enough

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Speaker 4: firepower to beat the Eagles. I look at the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I definitely don't think they have enough firepower to beat

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And then you look at some of their road games.

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Speaker 4: They gotta go on the road to Cleveland, they gotta

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Speaker 4: go on the road to Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I mean this.

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Speaker 4: I think this team's gonna get beat up this year.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a lousy year for the

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Speaker 4: New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask our compatriots here because they have

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Speaker 2: their favorite teams, teams they follow. Both sitting at ten

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Speaker 2: and a half, We'll start with you Bo your Eagles

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Speaker 2: ten and a half over under.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna go over. I'm gonna go over comfortably over.

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Speaker 9: I think I think they're gonna be I think they're

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Speaker 9: gonna be better this year.

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Speaker 3: Because of the they couldn't be much.

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Speaker 9: Yes, the the changes in the changes that were forced

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Speaker 9: upon Nick Sirianni probably will resonate. And as we mentioned

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Speaker 9: last year, they don't really have that murderers row schedule

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Speaker 9: that they did last year. So yeah, I think they'll

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Speaker 9: be all right.

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Speaker 2: Levin wins is a lot, all right, same thing for you, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Your Lions now a hot ticket in the NFL. Ten

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Speaker 2: and a half over under.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go over.

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Speaker 10: I think eleven to twelve is probably feasible for this team.

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Speaker 10: The massively upgraded their the secondary, which was their big

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Speaker 10: achilles hell last year. It is a slightly tougher schedule,

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Speaker 10: but everyone's chipped in. It's kind of the same raw.

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Speaker 10: It's the same roster plus more CBS. I have no

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Speaker 10: reason to think otherwise. I know it's gonna be a

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Speaker 10: tougher division, but I think I think all things said

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Speaker 10: and done should look good for the lists.

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Speaker 9: New jerseys remember that well.

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Speaker 1: They do have that.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I want to throw them one more

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Speaker 2: quick under. The lowest team on this list is the

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Speaker 2: Patriots at four and a half. The Patriots are at

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Speaker 2: four and a half in the post Belichick era under Yeah,

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Speaker 2: half and a half, dreams the last year

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Speaker 3: And much more coming up This carefully Sports Radio