WEBVTT - Brawls, Exciting and New: Carnival Cruise Ship Dust-ups 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:02.760 Ridiculous crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:04.120 Zaren? 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.039 Oh what Zaren? I know you Zaren Elizabeth. 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.040 Yeah, do you know what's ridiculous? 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:12.720 Oh my god, I'm sitting over here hoping you'd ask 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.080 me that. Yes, the fine print, it is pretty ridiculous. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.319 You know. They say you can hide a lot in 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:19.440 the fine print. Yeah, do you know that Disney right now? 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.239 Have you seen this? But they're trying to hide in 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.639 the fine print that do you have Disney Plus? I 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.560 have Disney Plus so I can watch like the show. Yeah, right, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.920 So if you have that, Disney says that you have 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.239 signed away your rights to sue them, because in that 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.440 agreement that you signed for Disney Plus says like, oh, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.960 I will not indemnify Disney for da da DA, And 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.080 in that they are now currently trying to get out 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.080 of a lawsuit someone filed because their their their spouse 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.640 passed away at Disney World. They went to Epcot Center 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.480 and then she had a food allergy and and passed away. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.160 So the husband is trying to sue Disney about this, 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.680 and Disney's like, nope, you're a Disney Plus member, which 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.760 means we're indemnified against this. So the hundred and fifty 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.880 million Disney plus members are being told all collectively at 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.480 once that you have no legal protections if you go 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.600 to Disneyland, Disney World, you're a Disney Epcot center so forth. 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.800 It's one of the silliest like legal wranglings you will 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.720 ever see. And like people are just like absolutely floored 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.240 by it, and uh, you know, the judges have that 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.319 have been snarky about it, the lawyers have been snarky 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:26.880 about it. The lawyer for the defendant said that it 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:31.160 was absolutely preposterous. So there you go. I think ridiculous 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:31.880 is really the word. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.319 All of like the terms and conditions that. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.959 We hold to all the time, never read, never read them. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.720 Yeah, they can hide whatever they want in there, Like. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.280 I could be I could be signing away like my first, second, 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.480 and third born children and never read it and maybe 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.120 you show up and I'm like another. 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.720 One, Like guess I gonna have another. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.480 Sorry, honey, I got to read the small print. 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:52.240 That is ridiculous. 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:52.680 There you go. 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:54.720 Do you want to know what else is ridiculous? 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.440 What's what I came here for? 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.000 Fighting while wearing flip flops? 0:01:58.280 --> 0:01:59.160 Oh my thing? 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:23.000 And this is ridiculous crime a podcast about absurd and 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:28.160 outrageous capers. Heis and cons it's always ninety nine percent 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.000 murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:32.119 Damn right. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.080 Yeah, baby, you ever been on a cruise? 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.639 What I look like like I got I got cruise money. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.840 I look like I got cruise money, Elizabeth, No, I've 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:44.680 never been on a cruise. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.000 D have you ever been on a cruise? 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.680 Oh yeah, we got married on a cruise. Oh no, 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.040 he got cruise money. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.040 He's got cruise money. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.520 Okay, I see how it is planning. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.880 Okay, some people are super into cruising. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:55.640 That's true. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.840 It's their main method of vacationing. I've been on two. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.400 See, you got cruise money too. I guess. I guess 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:03.320 I'm the only one here. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.240 I didn't pay for either one. Okay, it was gifted 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.160 to me as a family thing. Get on here, come 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:16.239 with the crew, watch these kids, babysitter. It was good. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:16.720 It was good. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.200 Yeah, I mean, did you recommend it to me someone 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:20.600 has never been on a cruise? I don't know. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:23.480 I think that like I did one that was an 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.400 Alaskan cruise, and it's like a pretty good way to 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.800 see what you want to see up there. And then 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.560 Mexican Riviera one really was like, uh, you know, up 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:35.640 and down the Pacific. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.200 You're hitting like Mane TV. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.400 That was actually kind of fun. It was, it was 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.720 kind of fun. So like I can see the appeal, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.840 like you only have what you're telling me, not really, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:53.320 you only have to unpack once. Well, like you know, 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.760 if you see all these places, but you only have 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.720 like one basically hotel room. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.840 People talk about that pack on trips, I. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.960 Don't bring anything. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.920 Do you take your clothing out of your suitcase and 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.280 put it into like the drawers that are supplied? No, yeah, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:08.680 I don't know. 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.000 On work stuff like I would hang things. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.720 Yeah, I do that, I hang a suit or something. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.599 But like, yeah, so anyway, unpacked some people totally I 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:17.760 mean they put like in the droll. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.600 Yeah, I've seen the movies from the fifties. People still 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:20.880 do that. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.760 I guess. I like to live out of the bag. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.360 If you got to run, if there's a fire, you 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.200 got to make a run for it. First of all, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:30.000 wear pants. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:31.599 I took a trip last week. I still have an 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.000 unpacked You just let it sit. I'm gonna I'm working 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:39.360 out of it. Eventually it'll be empty. So I'm just well, a. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.400 Lot of people too, like their ultimate vacation is just 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.440 like sitting by the pool zone and out and cocktails. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:47.960 Yeah, I've seen that. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.000 That's the main feature of a cruise. As far as 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.880 I understand the relaxation. You don't have to like learn 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.280 another language, even if you're going to places where they 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:57.120 don't speak. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.679 Oh okay, they kind of funnel you into English. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.440 You don't have to eat unfamiliar foods, you know, because 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.599 it's just their restaurants on there. It's not really my 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.760 ideal way of traveling. Like I like to be immersed 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.359 in a new place. I like people watching on vacation. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.239 Gotta be crazy people watching on the boat. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.760 Sure, but I'm talking about like at the destination. I 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.000 like to go to grocery stores to see, like what 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.520 is it like look at us. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:23.440 I do the exact same thing. I've been to all 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.640 the grocery stores. Everywhere I go. I have opinions. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.799 Yeah, you see weird products. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.200 Like the albert Heine and Amsterdam. I love that grocery store. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.960 It's amazing you get to I like to try new 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.440 food or just like absorb the vibe of the place. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.040 I'm not. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.720 Every little helps. I'm not really one for sitting by 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:48.279 a pool, and I'm not a cocktail sipper. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.520 I like cocktails in a pool. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.520 It's like for me, just peeing yourself. So for me, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.800 cruises aren't a good fit. But like I said, the 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.680 two that I've been on weren't bad at all. Yeah, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.000 interesting ways to see things. But I'm also like not 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:02.040 big on crowds. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.120 That's what I was wondering, you don't seem I. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.320 Like to take vacations in what they call the shoulder 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:10.960 season between like the heavy travel season and the off. 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.719 Season shoulders off. 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.240 Yeah, and then or I like to go in the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.039 off season too. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.360 Yeah, I don't mind that. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.920 I'll do anything to avoid a crowd. Same, it's basically 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.000 and you can't avoid crowds. 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.000 Luckily, crowds avoid me, so I'm in luck. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.720 See you're lucky. I'm I'm at the point now where 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.440 I'm like invisible, but they don't avoid me. Like I 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.080 have this thing you Yeah, like I've noticed walking on 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.480 the sidewalk, I have this new challenge that I give myself, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.920 Like if I see a guy walking towards me, like 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:42.600 a man. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.679 Oh, he'll look right out and he'll look at you okay, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:45.360 and I'll. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.200 Play a chicken eye contact. Yeah, And I find that 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.960 men usually don't move over what reason I don't know, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.080 and so I just strong yeah, and we like smack. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.839 Should they're kidding me? 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.120 No, I'm not kidding you. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.080 What are they doing? Who are these ungentlemen? 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.640 Know? But I heard it like because I realized I. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.520 Was the exactly opposite response. Obviously they all get me 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:11.840 like arms like the shark moving through Yeah, exactly. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.120 Yeah, I'm like I heard someone talking about it, and 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:15.840 then I realized, you know what I do, step out 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.600 of the way all the time, really, and like I start, 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.920 I stopped doing that and like smacked in the shoulder. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.680 Throwing a little shoulder forward to go, dude, knees and 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.720 get low exactly explode up. So I don't want my 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:30.920 football coach here. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.680 And I wouldn't have to do that their if the 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:39.120 cruise ships are crowded, of course, even those like Viking river. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:45.160 Cruises, the diseases don't they have with the son the 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.480 river cruises seem nice. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.400 Well, I saw a bunch of those folks depeched airport 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.200 and looked miserable, and they had like I. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.440 D land, But the big placards and on their. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.600 I don't wear ID badge like full stop. No, I'll 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.680 hold it and show people, but then I put it. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:03.200 I don't wear a lanyard. Get out of here. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.560 I take the stickers they gave it. I put them 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:05.360 right on my forehead. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.600 That's good, is what you wanted. But so to those 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.640 that love cruises, to them, I say God bless. Of 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.840 course I have family that takes cruises. Every year anyway, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:20.400 twenty twenty three, thirty one point seven million people took cruises. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:20.720 What. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.440 Yeah, that's globally. That's up from the pre COVID year 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.000 twenty nineteen. Like it's it fell off during COVID and 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.200 then it's just shot right back. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:30.880 Of course, everyone's like, oh, I got to get back. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.320 Neither norovirus or novel coronavirus can keep folks from. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:36.400 The open seas, no fear. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.480 The biggest cruise ship in the world is Royal Caribbean's 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:40.800 Icon of the Seas. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:41.920 Oh is that the one? 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.200 Yeah, it weighs like almost two hundred and fifty thousand tons. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.480 It's like twelve hundred feet long. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.120 Do when they park in San Francisco, they park right 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.120 by the you know, the pier, you know, at the 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.360 you can see it from the bridge going into the city. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.160 And if you go, I ride my bike over there 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.439 and you ride past it, it looks like two skyscrapers 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.719 have fallen over and are like lying on top of 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:04.160 each other. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.880 Yeah, they're huge, This this big one, the icon of 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:12.040 the seas twenty six hundred passengers and twenty three hundred 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:17.280 and fifty crew members on one vote, twenty decks, twenty decks. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.800 He is terrifying the here twenty decks. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:20.160 Yeah. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.040 A lot happens on these ships, like as I've said before, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.679 twenty As I said before, where there's people, there's crime, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:29.320 of course, and there's a whole lot of people on 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.160 there baby bumping. So before I get to what happens 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.680 on the ships, let me tell you about some shore 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:36.840 side bad behavior. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:37.559 Okay please. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.680 So obviously these ships visit these like really nice tropical ports, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.480 places like Antigua. In September of two thousand and nine, 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.400 six US citizens went to shore in Antigua for the 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.400 day while their cruise ship was important. So they hire 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.200 a cab. They're like, take us around the island, give 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.000 us a tour. The driver's like cool, fifty bucks you know, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.559 and I'll take you. I'll drop you off at the 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.280 end at Fort James Beach. It's like ten minute from 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.920 the boat. Yeah. So the car pulls into Fort James 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.679 Beach and the driver's like, all right, hundred dollars, but 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.800 he had quoted him fifty one hundred dollars please. And 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:16.320 so I should be noted that, according to like the 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.160 transportation board there, the official one way taxi fare from 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.840 the capital city of Saint John's to Fort James is 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.079 twelve dollars per car of four people. Oh wow, Yeah, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.000 and the island isn't that big. The capital's population is 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.160 just a little more than the number of people on 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.880 the icon of the seas. So it should also be noted, though, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.240 that this was not a one way taxi trip for four. 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.559 It was a tour for six. They hit up a 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.040 bunch of island sites. I feel like one hundred dollars 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:43.920 is fair for that. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:44.760 I totally thought that. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.000 But I live in an area where Deli sandwiches are 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.200 like fifteen dollars and that gallon of gas is like five, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.839 So what do I know. The group, though, they start 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.920 to argue with the driver. Driver's name Joey hungry Bird. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.440 Medica get hungry hungry Bird. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.760 Is that a street name? Do people call him hungry 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.000 bird or is it mister hung. 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.400 I don't think it was mister hungry bird. They argue 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.360 with hungry Bird, okay, and so he's like, hold on 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.679 a second, and he drives directly to the police station. Sensible. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.280 But that's when things popped off. 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.880 I never expect a man named hungry Bird to do. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:17.920 No. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.000 A fight broke out at the police station. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.640 Yeah, because the cops come out to hear the dispute, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.920 and it was they, not Hungry Bird, that wound up 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.720 mixing it up with the tourists. They so the tourists 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.760 they interested held the station. They got held over the weekend. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.720 I bet they were one of the four female passengers. 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.400 She shows up in court later limping, and her attorney's like, well, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.719 that's because she mixed it up with the cops. That's 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.680 what they did. But like a bunch of cops got injured. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.880 Huh. Yes, So they were throwing those hands everybody well. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.600 And obviously the ship didn't wait for them and left 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:57.400 without them. They had to surrender their travel documents. They 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.320 had to pay five thousand dollars each in bail to 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.559 the magistrate's court. They had to appear in quart a 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.439 week later to you know, face these charges. Blab blah 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:11.320 bah busted. Basically, Yeah, this writer Jim Walker, this is 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.479 what he had to say about bad behavior of cruise customers. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.120 Quote all of the cruise lines register their vessels in 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.760 places like the Bahamas or Panama, where they quote regulatory 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.520 authorities are more than willing to look the other way 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.800 as long as the cruise lines fill their coffers with 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.200 US dollars. The cruise line mentality of avoiding US taxes, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.079 US labor and wage laws, and US safety regulations often 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.600 leads to reckless and inexcusable behavior. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.440 I've heard this. Also, aren't a lot of the ships 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.559 registered at Liberia. And then it's like all these places 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.880 that are like Panama Libraria in particular stuff we're created 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.480 by American desires for wealth building. So like these are 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.960 countries that are just created by that. So I figure 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:53.360 they're good at Rubber Stanbell. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.720 And there's this other writer, Paul ash He said that 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:00.440 discounted tickets invite rowdier passengers. Oh yeah, and so he 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.319 speculates over what happens when quote the happy and careless 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.319 rich collide with the hungry and resentful poor. 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.319 Oh about that? Sure, are they? Okay? 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:15.040 So this is what Carnival CEO Mickey Arrison believes. Quote 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:19.320 Cruise ships are a microcosm of any city or any location, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.480 and stuff happens. The negatives of discounting might be less 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.160 commissioned for agents and less revenue for us, but the 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.680 positive is it opens up the product to a wider audience. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.080 He doesn't mean that it covers our bottom line. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:33.480 Happen. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.240 We make sure we make enough on your quote. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.520 And it's interesting though that they're kind of going after 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.360 those who want the discounted tickets. It's just like the 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.040 riff raff bastly basically is this. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.480 To fill up the floors. The people who have the 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.640 money for the tickets they intend to sell won't take 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.160 so they're just kind of like, here's this the like 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:51.560 you know, if you go to a stadium that has 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.319 a blocked seat, you know, like, oh here. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.520 You get to constructive view exactly. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:55.920 Okay. 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.240 Then that author Ash said quote, I can't think of 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.400 anything I'd rather do less than go on holiday with 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.120 five three hundred and ninety nine other people. Imagine the 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.040 rush for the boats or taxis during shore excursions. Imagine 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.560 the stress of finding a space by the pool or 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.080 queuing for dinner. One may as well go to the 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.360 med and scrap with the Russians and Germans for sun loungers. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.040 No wonder people get punchy. Who wouldn't. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.360 Is this what it's like? 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.600 You know, I say, I haven't experienced that, but I 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.720 think it's like when he's saying, like you want to 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:30.880 go fight the Russians and the Germans for your son 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:31.840 lash chairs. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:32.320 I got that. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.040 Basically, we're just saying people are just horrible everywhere, yeah, 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:36.320 you know. 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.840 And also when they're in vacation, they give themselves licensed 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:39.520 to even work. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.840 And because you have this notion in your head of 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:44.400 what the vacation's going to be, the fantasy you want 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.440 it to be, it's never going to be that totally, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.840 and so you try so hard to make all these 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.000 things come together, and there are all these other people 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:52.920 interfering with your fantasy. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.200 The stress is like looking out for your family or 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.240 your money, either. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.200 One exactly, and the money you've spent on it. So 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.960 like sometimes it's not the people on the boat but 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.800 the boat itself that causes trouble. August of twenty sixteen, 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:10.160 the Carnival vessel Vista left the port of Messina sicily, 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.360 and it did so like a drunken cruise passenger. Yeah. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.680 The Messina has like a protective zone like kind of 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:21.560 sea shaped for the large vessels and ships. At the 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.640 entrance and x exit of the port, there are these 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:28.680 piers that provide mooring and then like protection for small boats. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.720 So the Vistas leaving port comes super close to the piers, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.920 so much so that the wake turned over the piers 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.040 and then swamped all these smaller vessels, sinking a bunch 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.480 of them. Oh god, and that was just the wake. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.440 Like people on the ship thought that they actually hit 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.120 the piers because it was so loud and like, But 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.120 the vessel just throws a lot of water around. The 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:55.520 captain couldn't blame the weather, perfect sunny colmdown herself. There 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.600 were no announcement afterward from the captain about what happened. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.960 So people are looking off this and seeing it just 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.640 destroyed the fort exactly, and they didn't stop. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:05.760 Of course that that's the whole point. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.680 And locals were a year. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.040 I can't turn sorry, I gotta keep going. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:16.280 Yeah, exactly. Locals were absolutely livid. The Italian newspapers went 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.080 after them. The Vista damaged two concrete piers, sank several boats, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.080 quote under the astonished gaze of several citizens. Uh and 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.200 then they said quote for a moment, it was feared 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.000 that the situation could escalate and that the same cruise 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.920 ship might not be able to straighten the course and 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.520 regain the open sea. So it was so like wobbawe 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.520 coming out of there. They just you know whatever, two 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.480 hundred and fifty thousand euros in damage. Oh yeah, and 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.520 so you know we have these these like the boats 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.520 are so are you know, causing all this havoc. But 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.920 let's let's stroll away from like the philosophical discussions about 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.280 commerce and tourism, sure zaren, Let's talk about brawls. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:56.200 Oh I love this. 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.440 September of twenty twenty two, someone we did quote brawl 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.960 on Carnival cruise ship. Fight was over a lounge chair. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.720 Well hell yeah, brother, let's hear it. So turns out 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.240 thirty people mixed it up after one person allegedly took 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.399 a lounge chair from another passenger. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:16.560 Okay, so they're. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.520 Fighting over lounge chair. Thirty people. One passenger who was 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.840 there said, quote, all I know is I was filling 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.520 my cup up with lemonade, then boom they were knucking 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:31.760 and bucking' You just had to be there and then. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:36.240 Did you give this quoteth honest? 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.040 In the video of it, you can hear someone in 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.119 the backers around saying that's a move. 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:42.160 Yeah. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.760 Like the thing is, I've had knuck if you buck 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.480 in my head for days now thanks to that quote. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:50.320 I give that to you. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:54.040 Thank you head, you knucking and bucking. All right, So 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:59.000 here's another brawl. August twenty ten, the blog cruisejunkie dot 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.600 com read All the Time Right published an account from 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:08.840 a passenger on the Carnival Dream thirty six hundred people capacity. Quote, 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.320 we were on the Carnival Dream sailing eight seven to 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.679 eight fourteen, that's August seventh to August, thank you, and 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.280 heard that a brawl broke out in the dance club 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.199 around three am on the morning of the twelfth. We 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.360 heard from passengers and a bartender that the brawl started 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.560 over a song. It involved so many young people, men 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.520 and women that the security on board was unable to 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.600 handle everyone and had to call in assistance from waitstaff 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.040 and other crew members. The fight spilled over into the 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.679 art gallery located next door, and apparently a ten thousand 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.720 dollars painting was ruined with blood splatter. Whoa flat screen 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.879 TVs were smashed and there was a lot of damage done. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.920 We heard the people on the ground were getting kicked 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.680 in the head by men and women, and that one 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.399 person needed to be revived because he was hurt so badly. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.560