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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Zaren?

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Speaker 3: Oh what Zaren? I know you Zaren Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm sitting over here hoping you'd ask

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Speaker 3: me that. Yes, the fine print, it is pretty ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: You know. They say you can hide a lot in

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Speaker 3: the fine print. Yeah, do you know that Disney right now?

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Speaker 3: Have you seen this? But they're trying to hide in

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Speaker 3: the fine print that do you have Disney Plus? I

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Speaker 3: have Disney Plus so I can watch like the show. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: So if you have that, Disney says that you have

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Speaker 3: signed away your rights to sue them, because in that

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Speaker 3: agreement that you signed for Disney Plus says like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I will not indemnify Disney for da da DA, And

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Speaker 3: in that they are now currently trying to get out

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Speaker 3: of a lawsuit someone filed because their their their spouse

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Speaker 3: passed away at Disney World. They went to Epcot Center

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Speaker 3: and then she had a food allergy and and passed away.

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Speaker 3: So the husband is trying to sue Disney about this,

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Speaker 3: and Disney's like, nope, you're a Disney Plus member, which

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Speaker 3: means we're indemnified against this. So the hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: million Disney plus members are being told all collectively at

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Speaker 3: once that you have no legal protections if you go

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Speaker 3: to Disneyland, Disney World, you're a Disney Epcot center so forth.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the silliest like legal wranglings you will

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Speaker 3: ever see. And like people are just like absolutely floored

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Speaker 3: by it, and uh, you know, the judges have that

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Speaker 3: have been snarky about it, the lawyers have been snarky

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Speaker 3: about it. The lawyer for the defendant said that it

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Speaker 3: was absolutely preposterous. So there you go. I think ridiculous

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Speaker 3: is really the word.

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Speaker 2: All of like the terms and conditions that.

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Speaker 3: We hold to all the time, never read, never read them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can hide whatever they want in there, Like.

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Speaker 3: I could be I could be signing away like my first, second,

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Speaker 3: and third born children and never read it and maybe

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Speaker 3: you show up and I'm like another.

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Speaker 2: One, Like guess I gonna have another.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, honey, I got to read the small print.

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Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know what else is ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: What's what I came here for?

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Speaker 2: Fighting while wearing flip flops?

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Speaker 3: Oh my thing?

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Speaker 2: And this is ridiculous crime a podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 2: outrageous capers. Heis and cons it's always ninety nine percent

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Speaker 2: murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Damn right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, you ever been on a cruise?

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Speaker 3: What I look like like I got I got cruise money.

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Speaker 3: I look like I got cruise money, Elizabeth, No, I've

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Speaker 3: never been on a cruise.

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Speaker 2: D have you ever been on a cruise?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got married on a cruise. Oh no,

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Speaker 3: he got cruise money.

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Speaker 2: He's got cruise money.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I see how it is planning.

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Speaker 2: Okay, some people are super into cruising.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: It's their main method of vacationing. I've been on two.

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Speaker 3: See, you got cruise money too. I guess. I guess

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Speaker 3: I'm the only one here.

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Speaker 2: I didn't pay for either one. Okay, it was gifted

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Speaker 2: to me as a family thing. Get on here, come

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Speaker 2: with the crew, watch these kids, babysitter. It was good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, did you recommend it to me someone

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Speaker 3: has never been on a cruise? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think that like I did one that was an

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Speaker 2: Alaskan cruise, and it's like a pretty good way to

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Speaker 3: You're hitting like Mane TV.

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Speaker 2: That was actually kind of fun. It was, it was

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Speaker 2: kind of fun. So like I can see the appeal,

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Speaker 2: like you only have what you're telling me, not really,

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Speaker 2: you only have to unpack once. Well, like you know,

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Speaker 2: if you see all these places, but you only have

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Speaker 3: People talk about that pack on trips, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't bring anything.

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Speaker 3: Do you take your clothing out of your suitcase and

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Speaker 2: On work stuff like I would hang things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do that, I hang a suit or something.

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Speaker 2: But like, yeah, so anyway, unpacked some people totally I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen the movies from the fifties. People still

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Speaker 2: I guess. I like to live out of the bag.

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Speaker 2: If you got to run, if there's a fire, you

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Speaker 2: got to make a run for it. First of all,

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Speaker 3: I took a trip last week. I still have an

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Speaker 3: unpacked You just let it sit. I'm gonna I'm working

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Speaker 2: Lot of people too, like their ultimate vacation is just

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Speaker 2: like sitting by the pool zone and out and cocktails.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen that.

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Speaker 2: That's the main feature of a cruise. As far as

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Speaker 2: I understand the relaxation. You don't have to like learn

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, they kind of funnel you into English.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to eat unfamiliar foods, you know, because

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Speaker 2: it's just their restaurants on there. It's not really my

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Speaker 2: ideal way of traveling. Like I like to be immersed

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Speaker 3: Gotta be crazy people watching on the boat.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but I'm talking about like at the destination. I

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Speaker 3: I do the exact same thing. I've been to all

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Speaker 3: the grocery stores. Everywhere I go. I have opinions.

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Speaker 3: Like the albert Heine and Amsterdam. I love that grocery store.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing you get to I like to try new

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Speaker 2: Every little helps. I'm not really one for sitting by

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Speaker 2: It's like for me, just peeing yourself. So for me,

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Speaker 3: That's what I was wondering, you don't seem I.

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Speaker 2: Like to take vacations in what they call the shoulder

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Speaker 3: Luckily, crowds avoid me, so I'm in luck.

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Speaker 2: See you're lucky. I'm I'm at the point now where

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Speaker 2: Play a chicken eye contact. Yeah, And I find that

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Speaker 2: and so I just strong yeah, and we like smack.

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Speaker 3: Should they're kidding me?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not kidding you.

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Speaker 3: What are they doing? Who are these ungentlemen?

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Speaker 2: Know? But I heard it like because I realized I.

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Speaker 3: Was the exactly opposite response. Obviously they all get me

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Speaker 3: like arms like the shark moving through Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I heard someone talking about it, and

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Speaker 2: I stopped doing that and like smacked in the shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Throwing a little shoulder forward to go, dude, knees and

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't have to do that their if the

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Speaker 2: cruise ships are crowded, of course, even those like Viking river.

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Speaker 3: Cruises, the diseases don't they have with the son the

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Speaker 2: Well, I saw a bunch of those folks depeched airport

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Speaker 3: D land, But the big placards and on their.

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Speaker 2: I don't wear ID badge like full stop. No, I'll

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Speaker 2: hold it and show people, but then I put it.

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Speaker 2: I don't wear a lanyard. Get out of here.

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Speaker 3: I take the stickers they gave it. I put them

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Speaker 2: That's good, is what you wanted. But so to those

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Speaker 2: course I have family that takes cruises. Every year anyway,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's globally. That's up from the pre COVID year

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Speaker 3: Of course, everyone's like, oh, I got to get back.

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Speaker 2: Neither norovirus or novel coronavirus can keep folks from.

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Speaker 3: The open seas, no fear.

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Speaker 2: The biggest cruise ship in the world is Royal Caribbean's

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Speaker 2: Icon of the Seas.

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Speaker 3: Oh is that the one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it weighs like almost two hundred and fifty thousand tons.

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Speaker 3: Do when they park in San Francisco, they park right

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Speaker 3: by the you know, the pier, you know, at the

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Speaker 3: And if you go, I ride my bike over there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're huge, This this big one, the icon of

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Speaker 2: the seas twenty six hundred passengers and twenty three hundred

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Speaker 2: He is terrifying the here twenty decks.

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Speaker 2: A lot happens on these ships, like as I've said before,

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Speaker 2: twenty As I said before, where there's people, there's crime,

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Speaker 2: there baby bumping. So before I get to what happens

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Speaker 2: on the ships, let me tell you about some shore

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Speaker 2: side bad behavior.

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Speaker 3: Okay please.

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Speaker 2: So obviously these ships visit these like really nice tropical ports,

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Speaker 2: places like Antigua. In September of two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 2: six US citizens went to shore in Antigua for the

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Speaker 2: day while their cruise ship was important. So they hire

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Speaker 2: end at Fort James Beach. It's like ten minute from

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Speaker 2: the boat. Yeah. So the car pulls into Fort James

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Speaker 2: Beach and the driver's like, all right, hundred dollars, but

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting though that they're kind of going after

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Speaker 2: You get to constructive view exactly.

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Speaker 2: Then that author Ash said quote, I can't think of

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Speaker 2: Basically, we're just saying people are just horrible everywhere, yeah,

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Speaker 3: The stress is like looking out for your family or

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Speaker 3: Oh I love this.

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Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty two, someone we did quote brawl

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Speaker 2: Fighting over lounge chair. Thirty people. One passenger who was

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Speaker 2: there said, quote, all I know is I was filling

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Speaker 3: Did you give this quoteth honest?

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Speaker 2: In the video of it, you can hear someone in

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Speaker 2: Like the thing is, I've had knuck if you buck

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Speaker 2: Thank you head, you knucking and bucking. All right, So

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Speaker 2: morning in Kostamaya, there were a bunch of people ten

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, no kidding, Trent teen age at three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Carnival responds. Quote Carnival, a fight occurred on the vessel.

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Speaker 2: It was broken up by ship's security and the cause

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Speaker 2: of the fight was investigated, which resulted in ten guests

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Speaker 3: Really cool Now, yeah, I like their shorter version Carnival

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Speaker 3: mind you own.

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Speaker 2: You'll notice I'm only talking about Yeah, I've noticed that.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Yeah, I didn't hear princess once.

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Speaker 2: No, no, you're not going to let's take shortly. When

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Speaker 3: Fight fight fight, fight, fight.

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Speaker 2: No, no, they go up and down on the coast.

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Speaker 2: Some will go north, like up to like Maine, Canada

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Speaker 2: I know that Bahamas run is big out of New York, but.

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Speaker 3: They still do like the Queen Mary or Queen Elizabeth.

444
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, run right, yeah yeah. So here's

445
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: one from June twenty twenty two. Okay, there was a

446
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 2: Carnival cruise ship. And again these are these happen on

447
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Carnival ships. I didn't see any Disney ones, no Viking River,

448
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 2: no Holland America. Just an interesting fact.

449
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 3: Interesting anyway, there was correlation.

450
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: There was a tussle on the Carnival Magic Ship as

451
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: it headed back into New York City. Let me tell

452
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: you a little about Carnival Magic please.

453
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: I was afraid i'd have to ask.

454
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: It seems to do the Caribbean Run. There are two

455
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: different Guy Fieri restaurants on board.

456
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, good ship.

457
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: There's Guys Pig and Anchor Barbecue that's a real thing,

458
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: and Guys Burger Joint.

459
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 3: See. I like your Guys and theory. Go to the restaurant.

460
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: I have to admit I've never been to his restaurant,

461
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: but I did eat a bunch of a food of

462
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 3: his cookbook once.

463
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you had to. You were telling me you had

464
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: to write.

465
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: About it for a magazine story.

466
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you cooked your way through the cookbooks.

467
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: I had help. Okay, I'm not a very good cook.

468
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: Anyway. So Carnival Magic has two guy Fiery restaurants, which

469
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: makes so much sense. Here's the major red flag though

470
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: that's a red flag.

471
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

472
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: This is the Carnival website description of the ship, listing

473
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: off all their amenities.

474
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 3: This should be good.

475
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: Get into an island state ami before you even set

476
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: foot on one. Red Frog Pub is our laid back,

477
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: no worries, Oh so lively, key West inspired pub Dominate

478
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: at the foosball table, Enjoy some sweet tins from live musicians,

479
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: and sip our tasty signature private label brew Thirsty Frog.

480
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: So kick back and fill the island vibe. Come to live.

481
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 2: You'll be a local here before you know it.

482
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 3: It can you get a hangover from advertising?

483
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm about to give you a week worse alcohol poisoning.

484
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: This is their description of the Blue Iguana Bar.

485
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: Oh I know that drink well.

486
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: Blue Iguana Tequila Bar is the onboard spot to chill

487
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: and enjoy a slushy tequila drink or an ice cold

488
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: Mexican service. The menu offers up Mexican favorites, including several

489
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: grands a tequila and a slew of Mexican bruise. There's

490
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: a lineup of frozen concoctions, cocktails and margaritas served by

491
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: the glass, oh by the picture, and even a special

492
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: Mexican beer cocktail. Yes, really, where can you find this

493
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: little slice of Mexican paradise Mexican Mexico next to the pool,

494
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: of course, So stay cool and taking the bars a

495
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: vacation vibe while you kick back on your cruise. That's

496
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Speaker 2: what official bar mask up Blue the Iguana would tell you.

497
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Speaker 3: Now, I gotta say, as somebody who has the interests

498
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: of Mexican beer in tequila, I'm so just ashamed of

499
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: what's become of my interest. Fifteen years ago this was

500
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: not the case, and they become so popular, and now

501
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so you've done this to my my

502
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: I pas down in a Mexican beer. Take everything canse

503
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: you go back to whiskey, which I don't drink.

504
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of drinking on this boat.

505
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

506
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when you get a lot of drunk folks together,

507
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: you're guaranteed what did you.

508
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: Go out a rum too? Oh?

509
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: Probably anything. You're guaranteed some things when you get drinkers.

510
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talking. It's not like career drinkers. This is

511
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: amateur total.

512
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

513
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 2: These are people who are.

514
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: Like bush league hours.

515
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the noise level is going to increase. People dance

516
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: like no one's watching, People get all loved.

517
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hugging up on people.

518
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are hugging in rubbins.

519
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: They get hot and they take off clothing. People get mad,

520
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: people get mad, get real. Fight Yeah, fist fly yep,

521
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: huese fly.

522
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: So on this particular ship, on this particular a brawl

523
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: kicked off on the dance floor. Was not a dance off.

524
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: The ship was approaching the Verrizanto Narrows Bridge. Oh yeah,

525
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: a melee occurred. Sixty people got involved. Sixty Passenger and

526
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: travel agent Teresa James told Fox News that the fight

527
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: broke out after some significant others accused their partners of

528
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: cheating in a threesome. Whoa, yeah, like what happens on

529
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: the fight.

530
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: So I'm guessing that was like, uh, like a husband

531
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: and a wife accused. There could be to be involved

532
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: with a third person persons like who's this Mets fan?

533
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: I see you talking to right?

534
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: And so it all went down in the Vibe nightclub

535
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: on the fifth floor of the Carnival Magic Ship. Do

536
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: you want a description?

537
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: Please?

538
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, get up and get down At the most

539
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: happening club in the Caribbean. Our DJ's are spinning today's

540
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: hottest hits and yesterday's retro jams, guaranteed to get you

541
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: out of your seat and tapping your feet. Hey that rhyme.

542
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: Whether you're doing the robot or the worm, or just

543
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: sway into the music, you'll want to dance till the sunrises,

544
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: or at least till last call. Some people are born

545
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: with all the right moves, but the rest of us

546
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: need a little instruction to smooth the sharp edges off ours.

547
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: That's why you'll find a host of free dance classes

548
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: that sail along with you.

549
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: They sand you down.

550
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: I can't I want to see the dance classes.

551
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, ye club please? I like Also, by

552
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 3: the way, how they push these people to like party

553
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: like and all the language. It's like, oh cut loose,

554
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: but not too much, not too much. It's like you're

555
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: trying to find it's really small line for a lot

556
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: of people to walk.

557
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, just go nuts, stretch up. So they mentioned

558
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: last call. At two am on that fateful day, the

559
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: jilted lovers confronted their respective partners for two timing. The

560
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: shoving led to broken beer bottles, which led to a

561
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: lady getting her face sliced. That travel agent Teresa James said,

562
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: quote ignorant fools acting stupid. Hold on. The fight lasted

563
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: an hour, whoa an hour and.

564
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: Then it was really taking breaks in the second ship.

565
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: Like a karate movie where people wait in the wings. Yeah.

566
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: Are you also like are you tagging out and tagging

567
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: back in? You're just like a tag team sixty people yea.

568
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: You know, they rotate through. It's like special teams comes in.

569
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

570
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: It rolled into the casino area on the same level

571
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 2: of the ship, and then from there they took it

572
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: from the fifth floor to the first. The whole time,

573
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: ship security is trying to put a stop to it,

574
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: and eventually the US Coast Guard was called.

575
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: They had to bring a boat out.

576
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, here's a passenger who tweeted under the handle

577
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: at n y E E M zero sure said he

578
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: was quote at the bar listening to my own music,

579
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: sipping a Shirley Temple. Then a brawl broke out and

580
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: nowhere they said that some passengers were quote injured and

581
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: cut up from glass, and most, if not all, of

582
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: the ship's security guards rushed to stop the violence. And

583
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: then he ends the tweet with it was the last night,

584
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: so I guess they wanted to go out with a bang.

585
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Thanks Milhouse sitting there sipping on a Shirley Temple.

586
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So that was on the Carnival Magic

587
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: all right, Another fight broke out earlier this year. Let

588
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: me tell you how the Carnival Magic shows are described

589
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: by the comedy itself. This will clarify everything. Everyone has

590
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: those perfect songs that never fail to get them moving.

591
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 2: Playlist productions brings lists like yours to life. Your favorites

592
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 2: become full blown musical productions featuring singers and dancers bringing

593
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: down the house. Shows vary by ship, but there's a

594
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: playlist for every music lover. Need a few examples, Zarin,

595
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: You're like chorus hand up. How about the spicy sounds

596
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: of the movie Magic soundtrack? Of flick or vintage pop

597
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: with its twenties jazz beats, modern hits, get Ready for

598
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: Thrills is Romance and pop hits Collide, and the interactive

599
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Dear Future Husband, Release your inner rock and roll Patriot

600
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: during America Rocks, enter the center of groove with the

601
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: passionate heart of soul feel, the arena shaking sounds of

602
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: epic rock, the piano pounding sounds of eighty eight keys,

603
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 2: the totally bad, meaning good eighties pop to the max,

604
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: plus the funky, sophisticated and not at all exclusive studio

605
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: VIP where everyone's welcome to come and get down, Like,

606
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: come to this club. It's not exclusive at all. It's

607
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 2: full of trash.

608
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 3: Get in here, you'll be perfect.

609
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: I'll fit right in. It sounds terrible. Apparently. Dear Future

610
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: Husband is a Megan Trainer song. I refused to listen

611
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: to it, okay, but the Wikipedia entry for it is

612
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: a wild ride of poorly written descriptions of what she

613
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: wore while performing the song in various venues.

614
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: Oh really, it's bizarre.

615
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: It's so weird, and no mention of carnival cruises like

616
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: I was. I was trying to see it. No, I

617
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: just feel like these shows are the worst.

618
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: I feel like they are all going to be based

619
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: on like those nineties dance movies.

620
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: Were, like I watched videos of them. I watched videos

621
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: of these shows for you, Zarin, I don't let's ponder

622
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: it in our heads. Let me take you there. Karen,

623
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: close your eyes. I want you to picture it. You

624
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: are the main performer in the production of Vintage Pop,

625
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: a rollicking look at well. Let me quickly read to

626
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: you from the Carnival Cruise Guide press release, taking viewers

627
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: back to the Great Gatsby and Cotton Club era with

628
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: contemporary songs like all about that Bass, That's what I

629
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: Like and work transformed into classic jazz interpretations what Vintage

630
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Pop features a toe tapping six piece live band performing

631
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: in a modern day speaking highlighted by a show stopping

632
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: burlesque number that leaves audiences breathless. Vintage Pop ends with

633
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: a rollicking after party in the atrium, where guests can

634
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: dance and interact with flapper and zoot suited outfitted cast members.

635
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: All right, so you are just off stage about to

636
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: step out into the lights to perform a jazzy torch

637
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: songy version of John Legends all of me. You are

638
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: wearing a black zoot suit. Your co star Brianna is

639
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: dressed up like a flapper and ready to accompany you

640
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: on this number. You are both sweaty from your performance

641
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: of Ed Charine's shape of you blended with it don't

642
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: mean a thing, but you were meant for the stage.

643
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: You were meant for the curtain. You were meant to

644
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: tread these boards. Of this much you are certain anyway.

645
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: There you are, The lights dim and you and Brianna

646
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: make your way to the stage. You look out at

647
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: the assembled crowd in the theater. There are some who

648
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: are dressed to the knies, heels and tight cocktail dresses

649
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: and collared shirts. Others came in shorts, flip flops and visors.

650
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: It's a mixed bag. The pianist begins to play a slow,

651
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: jazzy tune. This in no way resembles the John Legend song,

652
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: but that's the point. You are basically going to sing

653
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: the lyrics over some jazzy stuff. As you take a

654
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: deep breath and begin, you hear mumbling off to the side.

655
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: At a cocktail table to your left, a man is

656
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: swaying in his seat and mumbling to himself. He then

657
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: begins to clap really loudly. I mean, you were meant

658
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: for applause, and you were meant for derision. But this

659
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: is odd. A person at the table next to the

660
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: man tells him. The man's wife puts her hand on

661
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: his arm to quiet him down. Michael, She spit whispers.

662
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: It works for a bit. Michael settles in his seat.

663
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: You float around the stage in the half dance, half

664
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: saunter of Dinner Theater. You continue to croon. As you

665
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: pause for effect, the clapping starts up again. You hear

666
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: a man shout stop clapping so loud. The clapping continues.

667
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: Michael will not be stopped. The piano plays on. But

668
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: you've been thrown off your game. I mean you were

669
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: meant to raise these hands with quiet all around you.

670
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh oh. The man who called for a stop to

671
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: the clapping stands. He's on the other side of the

672
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: clapping man. He announces that he's going to get a

673
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: crew member and that'll put a stop to this. The

674
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: guy just wants to hear a new arrangement of John

675
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Legend in Peace. Is that too much to ask? As

676
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: the guy walks past Michael, Michael stands you freeze in

677
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: the spotlight. Transfixed someone costs You hear low chattering ice

678
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: rattling in glasses. Just then Michael reaches to his table,

679
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: picks up his lowball glass and smashes it into the

680
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: guy's face. JH. The man's state cries. JH looks stunned,

681
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: a trickle of blood running down his forehead to his nose.

682
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: Michael raises the glass in his fist again and brings

683
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: it down on Jh's head once mout people scream, which

684
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: falls to the ground. The band, trying to distract from

685
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: the brutality of the wings, begins to play a jazzy

686
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: ragtime tune. You hear Michael's glass break as he froze

687
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: it at Jah. He then runs for the door, his

688
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: flip flops skidding across the floor. As he makes an escape,

689
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: the house lights come up and staff begin to direct

690
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: the audience out of the theater, And as the spotlights

691
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: fade away and you're escorted through the foyer, they will

692
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: resume their callaways. But you were meant for the stage.

693
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed me weaving decembrous lyrics through that

694
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: for you, Producer Dave, That was for you, so what

695
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: just happened. What happened was thirty nine year old Michael

696
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: Truman assaulted another passenger whose initials were provided as Jah.

697
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: So during a floor show, JH asked Truman twice to

698
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: pipe down before he went to go fine.

699
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: Crew members the Truman show.

700
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: According to according to an affidavit signed by FBI special

701
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: agent Sean danaher quote, as JH attempted to walk past

702
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: Truman to leave, Truman picked up his drink glass and

703
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: smashed it into j H's face. Truman then got on

704
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: top of JH and began striking him.

705
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: Damn.

706
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So JH gets face lacerations. Imagine he needed nineteen

707
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: stit do.

708
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

709
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: And then, according to the Affidavid, Jh's wife said that Truman,

710
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: surprise appeared to be drunk at the time they Later

711
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: they tracked Truman down to his cabin. He told security that, yeah,

712
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: he had been clapping a lot, and that the other

713
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: man asked him to stop clapping so loud.

714
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 3: And he has a wife, remember from the story.

715
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: And then he also copped to having three or four

716
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: alcoholic drinks that day, which I think is an underestimation.

717
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: I'm guessing. Yeah. According to thirteen or four.

718
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: According to the Affidavid quote, Truman repeatedly claimed that he

719
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: had been defending himself. A broken old fashioned low ball

720
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: cocktail glass was found in the vicinity of the assault,

721
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: So Truman, he's facing a maximum of ten years in prison.

722
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: WHOA what are you in for? Clapped a lot and

723
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: busted a dude's face in during a cruise ship jets review.

724
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: I love John Legend.

725
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 2: Let's stop for some mats. You can work on your

726
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: oil portrait of John Legend, and I'll try to get

727
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: I was meant for the stage out of my head.

728
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: When we come back, I have an epic one for you.

729
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: Excellent and five six, seven eight. How you doing?

730
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm over here working on my jets routine. Are

731
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 3: you the sharks because we've been practicing all day. Yeah,

732
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 3: we have a whole dance routine worked out. I hope

733
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: you guys are ready for a jazz battle.

734
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go audition for Carnival Cruise Line.

735
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm already on, So would you like to talk to

736
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: them on.

737
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: A cruise line ship right now doing that? I'm on

738
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: a Carnival cruise performing at John.

739
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: I am the captain of the car I am.

740
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: A carnival cruise ship. Have you not noticed that saren

741
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: live your life like a carnival cruise ship. We've talked

742
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: about the Commons Dominator.

743
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: With no carnival cruise ship.

744
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: This one's no different. Oh, this is very recent, June

745
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four.

746
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 3: This year, this year, that's this year, this summer, the

747
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: summer of Dark Elizabeth exactly.

748
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: It cast a pall across the globe. This is another

749
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: one where it was the last day of the trip.

750
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not just going the same here? Is that right?

751
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: People were like, I didn't get enough out of this.

752
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm shooting the moon baby. This made the news after

753
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: a guy named Nick Richardson who lives in Clearwater, Florida,

754
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: posted a video of a megafight on YouTube now. He

755
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: originally tried to put it on TikTok, but it got

756
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: taken down, so we went to YouTube.

757
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: Can you, by the way, you know you shortened names

758
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 3: like Edward can become Ted or ed Can you Shore?

759
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: And Nick Richardson to Nick Dixon?

760
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: Sure, why not?

761
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: Could you shorten a last name? No one ever shortens

762
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: last names like You're Richardson? Now Dixon, the Dixon, Nick

763
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: Dixon Dixon.

764
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he Clearwater, Florida. Guy posts this video. It's

765
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: not really clear how the fight began, but when he

766
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: came upon it.

767
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: He was not part of the original altercation.

768
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: He was but a witness. There were like ten to

769
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: fifteen people going at it, throwing chairs, tackling each other.

770
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: Who duking it out in the buffet area of the

771
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: carnival paradise.

772
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: Interesting, but nobody was like pulling knives or forks from

773
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: the tables.

774
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: This is at three am.

775
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, why.

776
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: Did he happen to see happened to see this buffet

777
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: fight at three am?

778
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: He's an insomnia he was out looking for pizza. Oh

779
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: he's my people.

780
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: Quote I woke up because I was starving, said Richardson.

781
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: Oh so he was drunk.

782
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said. The passengers were quote talking trash to

783
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: each other at the buffet and then tensions rose, but

784
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: he didn't know like what initially set it all off.

785
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: So security jumps in. They break it up. They're escorting

786
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: one side of the fight out of the room while

787
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: the other group like leaves on their own volition in

788
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: the other direction. They made a mess. There's like tables

789
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: and chairs knocked over plates and utensils everywhere. Carnival spokesperson

790
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Matt Lapoli said, quote, Carnival Paradise's security team intervened in

791
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: an incident that took place on June sixth. As is

792
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: our policy, we will not tolerate such behavior, and the

793
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: guests involved were fined and will not sail on Carnival

794
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: Cruise Line again.

795
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: I find it hard to believe. You guys are always

796
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: you're also releasing these You just pull up the template,

797
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: change the.

798
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: Day, change whichever boat it was. Richardson though, He's like,

799
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: this did not ruin his cruise at all. It was

800
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: the first cruise he'd ever been on, and he said

801
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: it was just an quote isolated incident, and then he

802
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: loved it so much that when he got home, he

803
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: booked a new cruise.

804
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: Like that same day.

805
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he as soon as he gets he books another trip,

806
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: he said. Quote the security and just all the staff

807
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: there were very, very good. So he was sold.

808
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: So he's like, you're going to Vegas when you're like, oh,

809
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: these guys can run this stuff.

810
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: I love that they take care of it.

811
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: I'm just allowed to be a child eating ice cream

812
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: in the morning.

813
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: I feel safe on the three day and pizza rest.

814
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad it didn't turn him off. The next one

815
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: I have for you would certainly sour me on cruising.

816
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: No, yeah, lay it out.

817
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: I take you to one of my favorite places. I've

818
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: never been Australia.

819
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: Oh yes, it is one of your favorite places.

820
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: You've never confessed that. Before doing Ridiculous Crime, I had

821
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: a slightly negative view of Australia. Well, I knew a

822
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: couple of assis and they were both horses asses people.

823
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: I wrote the whole place off you wrote is a

824
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: couple of people. That's what I did. You know, I'm judgy.

825
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: Hello, you're messing people from America. You're write a lot

826
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: of content.

827
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: There are very few places in this this green earth.

828
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 3: You're a big fan of write everybody off.

829
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: Well, no, we know what happens, and that's right. You

830
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: got people, But like for real, the Australians that I've

831
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: interacted with through the show have shown me that they're awesome.

832
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

833
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: I now love the I love I easily influenced.

834
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: And they gave me the greatest term. Oh he's a goer,

835
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: A go I love that.

836
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 2: I love that too. I use it all the time.

837
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna have epic behavior. Australia is your place.

838
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 3: Oh definitely, let's have some more class.

839
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Let's go February twenty eighteen. This time is the Carnival

840
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: Legend as it made its way around the South Pacific

841
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: on a ten day cruise. That kind of sounds dope, though.

842
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Is that? Is that a good amount of time or not?

843
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: That's a pretty long cruise.

844
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Ten days is like, okay, they.

845
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: Do like three four day cruises in the Caribbean four

846
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: days or whatever.

847
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

848
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: The one I did in Mexico's like seven days.

849
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is about this is like a little

850
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: longer than aw It's.

851
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Like a slightly long daddy. But I think there's fourteen.

852
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: And then there's the ones where you're like around the.

853
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 3: World world months long and all the years or whatever.

854
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: You're now retired there, you know, are the boat?

855
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay? So the trouble started after the legend set sail

856
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: from alban See how I said, that's so good. In

857
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: the French territory of New Caledonia, there was a big the.

858
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: French territory of New Caledonia, it's Scottish Caledonians.

859
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, there was a huge family traveling all together, like

860
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: two dozen folks, and it looked like they got on

861
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: board just like spoiling for a fight. They came on

862
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: like crusty, salty.

863
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: They're wrapping tinfoil around their knuckles.

864
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, so like they come on, they're like spitting

865
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: in the pool. Oh, they were in the smoking area

866
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: and they're just screaming, yelling at everybody, just.

867
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: Holding their fingers up, no cigarette, just breathing in the air.

868
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: They would suck other people's yeah, and then like they

869
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: would walk by other passengers and staff and like be like, oh,

870
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: are you trying to insult me? And like wanted to

871
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: start a fight?

872
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: Oh, Travis Bickle like talking to me.

873
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: Carnival Cruise Lines called the police to quote remove a

874
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: family group of passengers and like by the time they

875
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: got to this place, Eden on the South coast, a

876
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: New South Wales south coast, the officers had to board.

877
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: But it was like leading up to this is what

878
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: was called the cruise from Hell. Oh yeah, so cops

879
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: meet up with a ship. They took off six men,

880
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: three teenage boys, fourteen women and children. The family group

881
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: was taken to Canberra, where they had to figure out

882
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: their own way home. A twenty one year old female passenger,

883
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: who when speaking to the press said she wanted to

884
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: remain anonymous, said that while she was traveling with her

885
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: partner and another couple, their group was targeted by the family. Yeah,

886
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: after one member of her party accidentally brushed past a

887
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: member of the family and then they're like, oh, oh,

888
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: it's on and I'm going to just like to the

889
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: ends of the earth. I will get you.

890
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you know you got a new rival

891
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 3: for life.

892
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she said. Quote, yesterday, the friend we were traveling

893
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: with was subjected to a large violent outburst. He was

894
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: essentially thrown to the ground. It was completely unprovoked. They

895
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: had him by the neck and they were punching and

896
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: kicking him. And then she said that she thinks that

897
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: the violence was triggered when her friend made eye contact

898
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: with the group as they were chasing down another passenger.

899
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: So like in the commission of a crime.

900
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: Someone looks at and they stopped.

901
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: They stopped, That's exactly what happened. Like they make eye contact,

902
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: like they left a skin mark tennis shoe on the

903
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: thing turned around.

904
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: A pack of gorillas onto this boat. It seesn't seem

905
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: like they'd be good passengers.

906
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: She and her partner hid in their cabin for two days.

907
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: They were so afraid. Another another passenger, identified only as Zach,

908
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: he told Neil.

909
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: Mitchell's street names.

910
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: Melbourne radio station three a W that he was going

911
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: to be removed from the ship after he was locked

912
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: in his room by security overnight. He's part of the family,

913
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 2: he called. He calls on the radio shop. He said.

914
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: The conflict was between his family and another party on

915
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: the ship that started following a misunderstanding over a.

916
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: Song like a flip flop or like an underwear.

917
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: He said it quote and I won't do it. I

918
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: won't do the ex quote. This is all over a thong,

919
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: not a foot, a thong being stepped on. So it's

920
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: a flip flop, a thong being stepped on and being

921
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: instantly apologized for what happened there and then was apologized for.

922
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 2: My nephew was threatened as he was returning a soccer

923
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: when four or five blokes walked up to him and said,

924
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: don't worry, we're going to get you. Like it doesn't

925
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: make any sense.

926
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: No, it's such a so somebody had their flip flop

927
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: stepped on. Another person got mad because they're like, oh,

928
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: these are my best flip flops. I wear it all

929
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 3: formal events.

930
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: My go aheads and then like he apologizes, but then

931
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: they returned. They like threatened his nephew for a soccer ball.

932
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: But he doesn't complete the thought. He said that security

933
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: guards were harassing his family and it was really security

934
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: was doing this whole thing. They're the ones who started

935
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: all this, uh, he said, quote the first hit was

936
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: thrown by security towards not just my daughter and my

937
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: sister in law, but my wife as well. So he's

938
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: like security was hitting all the lady folk. He then

939
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: said that security guards assaulted him and his son, quote

940
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: taking turns pounding us in the face with knuckle dusters

941
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: and steel cap boots. Were basically standing here is thanking

942
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: the Lord above that we survived it.

943
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 3: I don't.

944
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the station, the station three a W they

945
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: did get footage of the brawl, Oh thank god, And

946
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: it does not securities up in there. But you can't

947
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: tell if they were there from the jump or if

948
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: they get pulled in.

949
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: Can you tell if they got knuckle dusters, Well.

950
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: You can see that there are a bunch of guards

951
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: and a staffer kicking a passenger while he's on the ground.

952
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: And in the background you can hear people screaming and crying.

953
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: Did you see someone beating someone with a mop?

954
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: This guy, David Barco. He told three a W that

955
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: he received a call at one in the morning from

956
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: his son George, crying, saying that quote, a lot of

957
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: people are bleeding, a lot of people are down. Please Dad,

958
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: please Dad, call the federal police. I could hear a

959
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: lot of kids crying, women screaming, swearing.

960
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: What the heck can you know to getting a call

961
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 3: from the middle of this melee?

962
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: Oh God? Three aw the center of all this, this this

963
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: radio station. They talked to another passenger, Michael. He said

964
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: that he'd been kicked while laying on the ground and

965
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: he got cuts and bruises to his face, his back,

966
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: his legs. They also talked to Kelly Peterson. She didn't

967
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: mind giving her full name. She goes on the cruise

968
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: with her husband and her three young kids. She and

969
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: her husband had also been threatened by the crazy family.

970
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: This is how she said it. Quote they were looking

971
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: for trouble from the minute they got on the ship,

972
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: anyone and everything. They even picked on a sixteen year

973
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: old boy because they thought he looked at them. Fights

974
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: have been going on for a few days now. We're scared.

975
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: We've been told to watch our backs by this group,

976
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: so we're scared to go anywhere alone on the ship.

977
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: We can't wait to get off. People are walking around

978
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: with cut heads and hands, bandages everywhere. She said. The

979
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: security told her.

980
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: Kids deep country, like why are they so not used

981
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: to being around other people? Don't know?

982
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: But security told her like, don't walk alone. And then

983
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: the other passengers were saying that they stayed in their

984
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: cabins the whole time and her stay safe. Lisa Belifo.

985
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: She said that she and her son locked themselves in

986
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: the cabin. Quote, we've all made several complaints, saying kids

987
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: were scared. They saw people getting strangled and punched up.

988
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: The captain said, what do you want me to do

989
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: about it? Throw them overboard?

990
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: Way to go back.

991
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 2: We have jails on these they have.

992
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: A break, then they can marry people, They can lock people,

993
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: got power them, just go out and tank. You know

994
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: what they do on planes, duck tape them to their seats.

995
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: I don't know well, so, like, what's the deal with

996
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: this family? What can't a.

997
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: Pilot do that a captain of a boat can't do?

998
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: They're like, who is this failing?

999
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1000
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: Who is this family?

1001
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: Believe though, she said that it was quote a big

1002
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: Italian fan who spent the crews attacking quote OSSI's.

1003
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: Actually Italian from I don't know Italians were ethnical Italian.

1004
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: From so I'm hearing it from. She said their behavior

1005
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: was quote very violent. They were full on attacks, and

1006
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: she said she wasn't sad to see them getting stomped

1007
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: by security.

1008
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: It was like the Capone boys, Like what are we

1009
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: talking about? Quote?

1010
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: They deserved everything they got. They were the aggressors. So

1011
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: she said that her son got targeted and they had

1012
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: to make a run for it and lock themselves in

1013
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: the cabin. Her son told news outlets quote, I was

1014
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: watching the fight and one guy came up to me

1015
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: and said, do you want to go too? Bro? My

1016
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: mom had to drag me away from it.

1017
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: All.

1018
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: They were trying to pick on any Ossie they could find.

1019
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 3: This is so how did they think they gimmed themselves

1020
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: up for this? Like? Was it like one of those

1021
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: like the family like they have a meeting before they

1022
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: go and drive to the port. They're like, we're gonna

1023
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 3: mess the ossies up. In't that right? Gino?

1024
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: Thearren Foster's is Australian for beer mate. That's what it is.

1025
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 3: The courage.

1026
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: So little battles went on for days as the ship

1027
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: sailed on, but there was the final straw was an

1028
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: all out brawl in the ship's nightclub, of course. So

1029
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: there's a video of the giant fight. A man pins

1030
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: another to the bar floor. All around them like passengers

1031
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: as screaming trying to move out of the way. A

1032
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: woman throws herself on top of the pair, and then

1033
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: security guards show up and they start like punching and

1034
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: kicking the dudes on the floor.

1035
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: The security guard is pine, just bruised hands like they're like,

1036
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: I've been fighting for.

1037
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: This passenger, Michael, it's funny you should mention this. The

1038
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: passenger Michael Hatter said guards waved broken bottles at passengers

1039
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: to intimidate them, and quote put handcuffs around their hands

1040
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: as knuckle dusters. So they used handcuffs as brass knuckles. Yes, amazing.

1041
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: Don't they have cruncheons or like some kind of spray

1042
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 3: that can use me. It seems like Carnival may want

1043
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: to look into.

1044
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: Tasers silly string. In one video, you can see like

1045
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 2: one of the staff members try and knock the phone

1046
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: from the hand of the person filming.

1047
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: I got another idea for Carnival. That's sugar glass. All

1048
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: the glasses on Carnival Cruise, sugar glass, just break all

1049
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: you want exactly.

1050
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: The staff member tries to knock the phone from the

1051
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: hand of the person filming. Filming, okay, yeah, and then

1052
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: screams no camera, this is staff staff. Before the video ends,

1053
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: a security guard makes a fist and draws his arm

1054
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: back like he's gonna punch a woman in the face camera.

1055
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like that the one like the comedian you ow.

1056
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Instagram comedian who puts her hand by your face. Yeah,

1057
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: I can't say it. He like does that right, he

1058
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: pulls back and then he stops at the last moment.

1059
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: I can't.

1060
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: A Carnival spokesperson said in a statement quote, the actions

1061
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: seen on the video by our security team are not

1062
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: in line with our Carnival values and policies.

1063
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 3: They put their back into this one.

1064
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: We are conducting a full investigation and we will take

1065
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: appropriate corrective action as necessary.

1066
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: Ah, and I get they determine what's necessary right next

1067
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 3: time it will be yes.

1068
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: But they have Carnival values and policies. I've seen their values.

1069
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: They're pretty amazing. Jennifer vander Creek, the Carnival general manager.

1070
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 2: So yes, there were quote limited and isolated events with

1071
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: the family in question. Disembarking a family from a cruise

1072
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: is an unprecedented incident. It is always our last resort.

1073
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: We felt it was the best course of action for

1074
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: the safety and security of our guests and crew, like

1075
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: we had to boot off a whole family total.

1076
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: These press pass always sound like some kind of weird

1077
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: like sci fi novel, like we'reen in the future, or

1078
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: they're like we've become really corporate talk about everything.

1079
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: Carnival President store mirrmel I don't even know, said an

1080
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: internal investigation was going to be launched and that quote

1081
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: excessive behavior was not tolerated by Carnival. That is not

1082
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: what I've been talking about for the last forty five minutes.

1083
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: This is all about a George Saunder's novel, is what

1084
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1085
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: This is a Carnival dispatched a quote care crew a

1086
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: crew to help those who decided to ride out the

1087
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: crews to the bitter end a care crew. Yeah, and

1088
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 2: then they probably handed out teddy.

1089
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 3: Bears I was just about to say, and candy and

1090
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: and it.

1091
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: Should be noticed not all of the bad boys bad boys,

1092
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: what You're Gonna do? Were kicked off the ship. Some

1093
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: like there were still some aggressive passengers who got locked

1094
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: in their cabins as kind of like a house arrest

1095
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: until they returned. Other passengers like they complained that once

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Speaker 2: the fight was over and everyone had been ejected, that

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Speaker 2: like guards on the ship were taking their phones and

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Speaker 2: deleting all the videos of the melee. Oh wow, So

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Speaker 2: police removed twenty three people, all apparently members of the

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Speaker 2: same family. Uh. Some had been ordered removed while others

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Speaker 2: left voluntarily.

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Speaker 3: So wait the police is this from a port of call,

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Speaker 3: because I mean they're like international.

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Speaker 2: Water pulled into a port and then in South Wales?

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Speaker 3: Does it go to the first jurisdiction they touch, you know, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: if your rules are different, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like what if they go to like christ Church as

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Speaker 3: opposed to Okay.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. Well I think they put the federal police limit. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so when they're leading everyone off, all the passengers that

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Speaker 2: were still there, they went up out onto the deck

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Speaker 2: and they were like booing and clapping. As the family

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Speaker 2: was moved to a police boat. One of the dudes

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Speaker 2: in the family was wearing like a big head bandage.

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Speaker 2: The whole group were just like not remorseful, looking super defiant.

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Speaker 2: While the family was being let out, a lady on

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Speaker 2: the cruise yelled loser and then one of the Narraduel's

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Speaker 2: flips or the bird it's amazing. So again, Carnival releases

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Speaker 2: another statement, we sincerely regret that the unruly conduct and

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Speaker 2: actions of the passengers removed them a ship may have

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Speaker 2: prevented other guests from fully enjoying their cruise. I mean

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Speaker 2: they must have just like six template.

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Speaker 3: Oh statement, they just spin the wheel when everyone comes out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as a good will gesture, if you may to

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Speaker 2: the end of the cruise, they gave you a twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent off coupon for the next one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Four years later, in October of twenty twenty two, Carnival

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Speaker 2: updated its ticket contract to say that unruly guests would

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Speaker 2: be fined five hundred dollars and made to reimburse any

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Speaker 2: incurred expenses resulting from being detained or being made to

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Speaker 2: disembark early. The contract reads quote consistent with our commitment

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Speaker 2: to safety, disruptive behavior will not be tolerated, and any

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Speaker 2: guest whose conduct affects the comfort, enjoyment, safety, or well

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Speaker 2: being of other guests or crew will be detained on

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Speaker 2: board and or disembarked at their own expense, and will

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Speaker 2: be banned from sailing on Carnival in the future.

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Speaker 3: That's a little bit vague the land. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: what if you like, fart, a bunch of peoplesupting.

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Speaker 2: Totally disrupted, off you go, And then like a month

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Speaker 2: before that they set up a one am curfew for

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Speaker 2: passengers under the age of eighteen About them, right, Zaren?

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Speaker 2: What's your ridiculous takeaway?

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Speaker 3: How is it because you kids can break at eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Is that how we have other teens?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: How is I just don't understand how there's like captains

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Speaker 3: and security, but it really doesn't sound like there's security

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Speaker 3: and a captain. Everyone's just like, look, we're just trying

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Speaker 3: to keep the boat afloat. That's our job. That's all

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: we care about. Basically, it's bizarre and as somebody who

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Speaker 3: is totally agnostic to this, all of this other than

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Speaker 3: what you see in the media. This is wilder than

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Speaker 3: I thought it was, and I thought it was pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: There you go, it's wild.

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Speaker 3: So like, basically, I have some friends who like to fight.

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Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting them for their carnival Carnival

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Speaker 3: cruise gift certificates perfect.

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Speaker 2: Do they wear flip flops?

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Speaker 3: Knuckle dusters? So they do wear Do you know who

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about?

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Speaker 2: I do know who you're trying to In response to

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Speaker 2: all this, Dave, I need to talk about see what.

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Speaker 3: I could do? Oh my god, I love cheat.

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Speaker 4: Hi guys, this is Adriana from Reno and Darren. I

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Speaker 4: fully support or your dream of writing on top of

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Speaker 4: a train car someday. I got to do it once

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Speaker 4: when I served in there in West Africa, slept on

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Speaker 4: top of a hopper full of iron ore overnight under

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Speaker 4: the stars across the Sahara and woke up in Nouadi

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Speaker 4: Boo on the Atlantic coast of West Africa. Highly recommend

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Speaker 4: that what's up, World's most interesting woman.

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Speaker 3: It's the coolest thing I've heard, A good piece.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that. And you're gonna make my dream

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Speaker 3: country because I'm going to try that. Ok. Good, you

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Speaker 3: get a new co host fall off, Dave get Ready.

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