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Speaker 5: I felt like, not only were you talking to Gail,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, if this happening, I was like,

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Speaker 2: Like like their.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to put in the work. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to put in an effort. I don't want to

435
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 3: make I'm wrong. I don't want to say I'm sorry

436
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: because I said it. And that's the And a lot

437
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: of times when people do that, they surround themselves with

438
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 3: a collection or a group of people that chambers the

439
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: opinions that they've said back to them.

440
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: That they're not challenged.

441
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: There's no critical thinking, there's no growth because you know,

442
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 3: the thing is, everybody wants everybody to grow, but at

443
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: the same time, nobody's growing because you know, if you grow,

444
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: that means, like you say, I can't pin this thing

445
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: on you anymore, because you've moved beyond that, you know,

446
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 3: and to me. And it's a circle that keeps happening

447
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 3: again and again and again. And we talked about an

448
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: event happens, and then everybody has to make that event

449
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 3: about me. That's why you have these genres and arguments

450
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: and sub arguments.

451
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: And shit like that, because for a lot of these people,

452
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: it's about me. What about my daddy? What about my brother?

453
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: What about this? What about the person? What about the

454
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: man in my life that I never confronted? What about

455
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: the man in my life I was afraid to talk

456
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: up to? You know, what about my abuser? You know,

457
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: he used these same words towards me because I have

458
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: to make the situation about me. And it's not that

459
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: people are are saying your situation is not valid. We're

460
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: just saying that this right here literally has nothing.

461
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: To do with you.

462
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: But it's very, very hard for people to actually look

463
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 3: at it without inserting themselves into the situation.

464
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: This human nature could do that.

465
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Speaker 1: You know what else I think happens. And you know,

466
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: I think this is just kind of universal, and on

467
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: the smaller scale it happens, but now we see it

468
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: on a mass scale because we all have these tools

469
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: to be together. Quote, while we're not really together. I

470
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: think deep down people are actually afraid of themselves because

471
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Speaker 1: they're afraid they might have to forgive, and to forgive

472
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: means to kind of give up that anger, and the

473
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: anger feels like power, And so I'm giving up my

474
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: power by saying I do genuinely think this person sorry,

475
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: or I do genuinely think they made a mistake, or

476
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Speaker 1: you know, I listen to them and they sounded, you know,

477
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: like they sounded like they were confused, or even, let's

478
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: be more fair, like I've been there. I've done that.

479
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: That's something I wish I could take back immediately. I've

480
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: been emotional and then it went too far and wanted

481
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Speaker 1: that opportunity to be forgiven. Sometimes you get it, sometimes

482
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: you don't, you know. And I think that's one of

483
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: the parts of that the book that I thought was

484
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: so that really just like I said, it really just

485
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: like kind of slapped me in the face. It was like,

486
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Speaker 1: if you look at the title, the end of it

487
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: says and the duty of repair, you know, it talks

488
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: about how do and how do you fix these things?

489
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: How do you how do you build on the damage

490
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: that you that you've done, how do you you know

491
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's not saying people don't fuck up.

492
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: It's not saying that everyone's right, everyone's wrong. It's saying, well,

493
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: shit is murky, and bridges get burned. Sometimes the bridges

494
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: get tested. Conflict is a part of life. But what

495
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: the duty of repair? That the the civil you know,

496
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: agreement of repair. I think it's something that people don't

497
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about, and it's you know, and I

498
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: think it kind of it kind of really shines in

499
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: these moments like this and like this isn't necessarily when

500
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: people forget about this snoop shit. In a couple of

501
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: weeks like it really is not a big deal. He's

502
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: gonna I saw him on like several commercials and shit.

503
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: This week, he's on a he's on a commercial for

504
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: a new cartoon coming out. He's on a Cheetos commercial

505
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: or something the other day. He will not be harmed

506
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: by this. This is not a male kopa for poor snoop,

507
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: you know. But it's more about what about poor us?

508
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: What are we losing? And this idea of I don't

509
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: even want to see a motherfucker get to talk about it,

510
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 1: like damn did they kill somebody? Like like what like

511
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: like what like? What do we want from this? Even

512
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: if maybe he gets to talk in this worse and

513
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: we go, oh no, see, this is the This is

514
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. This is why I don't really

515
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: fuck with this dude, you know. But yeah, it just

516
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: feels like the people want to rob folks of even

517
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's like, we claim we want these the policies,

518
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: we claim we want reconciliation, we claim we want repair,

519
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: but we don't want that. No, we don't, you know,

520
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: we really want to just complain about the harm more

521
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: than we want any level of you know. Uh, I

522
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: don't know any reconciliation.

523
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: You know, right, because I said this before. It requires work.

524
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: Human beings are naturally lazy. They do not want to work.

525
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: You might work at your job, you might work in

526
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: a variation of things, but I mean that internal work.

527
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: People don't want to work.

528
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: Internally because internally means you have to face shit that

529
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: you did not want to face. When you look internally,

530
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: that means you have to go back and actually soul

531
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: search and actually ex yourself.

532
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Why is this bothering me? What is bothering me?

533
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: You know?

534
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, these things happen. You know, I need

535
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: to forgive myself. I might need to forgive somebody else.

536
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I might need to let shit go. I might need

537
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: to to release this anger. You might need to cry

538
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: about it. I might actually need to go see a

539
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: therapist and psychiagist, psychologist.

540
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: I might have to do some.

541
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: Work, and that will require a whole hell of a

542
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: lot of work, and human nature people are lazy. You

543
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: know I've done that work. I'm still a work in process,

544
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: a progress process. So for me, I'm not perfect. But

545
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: that healing shit, that that that's some shit that will

546
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: have you in the corner bout up trying to figure

547
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 3: out what did I do wrong in life? But the

548
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: thing is, you have to face the hurt. You have

549
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: to face the pain. You have to face a disappointment

550
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: of you letting people down. You have to face the

551
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: disappointment of other people letting you down. And that's the

552
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: shit nobody wants to do because a lot of this

553
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: shit comes from them being hurt. That's why they taking it.

554
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: But like, what about me? What about me?

555
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: What about me?

556
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Because I have unresolved issues that happen to me that

557
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: I feel like I can't address. So I'm gonna gonna

558
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: address them publicly right here, right now, even though the

559
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: person I'm talking to is like the sit in person

560
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: or the replacement for where my anger should actually be

561
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: targeted at.

562
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost sounds like in a way, Kobe is

563
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the last person that was forgiven, you know,

564
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: And I think people forgave him without knowing it, you know.

565
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: And the way that people you know, can you know,

566
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: like I said, the way that people forgive and hate

567
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: and don't forgive celebrities, It sounds like Kobe was the

568
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: last one, you know, Because now it doesn't take as

569
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: big as a fraction to be done forever with people.

570
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just because of the way

571
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: he died that people had to come to grips with

572
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: that right away. But people had forgiven him, and I

573
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: don't even think they realized it. I don't think they

574
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: sat down and picked a moment to forgive him. But

575
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, his wife, Vanessa Bryant said at the memorial

576
00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: service today, she said, Kobe worked hard to make sure

577
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: others learn from his mistakes. That's not a denial of

578
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: harm calls by him. That's not saying he didn't do nothing.

579
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why y'all tried talking about my man

580
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't fuck Gail King any of that shit. She

581
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: knows that that's part of his legacy too.

582
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 6: You know.

583
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: And she says, like he worked hard to make sure

584
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: others learn from his mistakes. And that's something that, like

585
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: I said, when people rush to defend him in that

586
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 1: kind of sycophant, sycophant way, that kind of coat like mentality,

587
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: they missed the fucking point of all the shit he did.

588
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: It's not because of but in spite of It's not

589
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: in spite of it's because of, you know, And I

590
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: think that's kind of interesting to see people able to

591
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: understand it with him. But then as soon as the

592
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: new cycle moves to the next person, here we are

593
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: doing it again and leaving no room for any any

594
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: other narrative than just fuck you forever.

595
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, and also, truth be told, a lot of

596
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: people the with Kobe, it happened quote unquote so long ago,

597
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: and for a lot of people, it happened before the

598
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: Internet is the savage beast that it is today. If

599
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: something like that was to happen to Kobe Bryant today,

600
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Let's say Kobe Brown was allowed to dain' living, he

601
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: would not have the same legacy that he has right now.

602
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's true.

603
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: But you know what though, during the when he got

604
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: an awarded the Oscars, people were talking about it like

605
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: in the era of me too, How are you giving

606
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: this man an award?

607
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not I'm not saying that.

608
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is, yes, people there are gonna be

609
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: people that's not gonna pick it him regardless. But what

610
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying is if Kobe Bryant was in the league

611
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 3: right now and these allegations to come up right now,

612
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: would people still feel the same way and have the

613
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: same legacy that they do about him right now, I mean,

614
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 3: don't the.

615
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: Right right, I'm not I'm not trying to bate it

616
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: with you. I'm just saying, like he was, he was

617
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: a person during this era. This was not like he

618
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: didn't get the past of well, you know, like he's

619
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: dead and gone or that happened so long ago. Nah,

620
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: this happened in the era of people having social media,

621
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: Like this happened in a time like to me, Kobe

622
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Bryant was the to me, the difference between him and

623
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was that he did come up during TMZ

624
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: like he like he didn't get to escape that if this,

625
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: if this ship would have happened with like I said, Uh,

626
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, you guys picked the person, uh Reggie

627
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: Lewis or something like that, it would it would like

628
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: it would have been different just because of the media

629
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: being different. Right, they would cover up your sexual assaults.

630
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: They'll cover they won't interview the person they you know

631
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They won't. It won't be jokes on

632
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: family guy and shit like that. Like this was different

633
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: for him, you know what.

634
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: And and like I said, maybe maybe just the way

635
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: I feel I I understand what you're saying, but but

636
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: the Internet and the way.

637
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: The social media is so savage.

638
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: Not said social media wasn't around back then, but it's

639
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: so savage now and it's so polarizing right now that that,

640
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: you know, I feel think that a lot of people

641
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: that are forgiving would not be as forgiving if this

642
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: situation was to happen today.

643
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick was accused of sexual assault.

644
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but people like.

645
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: Him, That's what I'm saying, people like Kobe too. Like

646
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: it's just I feel like the people when it doesn't

647
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: fit the narrative we want to have with people, we

648
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: just don't care, you know what I'm saying, or just

649
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't count kinder And I think Kobe might be

650
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: the last person that we see like forgiving, you know

651
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying like that, And I think part of

652
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Speaker 1: it is just because of how big he was and

653
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: how successful he was at winning, and then how much

654
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: he was able to like rehabilitate his image and how

655
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: much of a like supporter of women he became and

656
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: all this shit, so like it could be all that,

657
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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure people want to put sinister

658
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: motivations to his entire fucking life. They can. I'm not

659
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: saying that, but just that you don't put people on

660
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Speaker 1: TV like this for their fucking for like a memorial

661
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Speaker 1: service and stop prime time in ESPN because everyone hates

662
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: the person, right, So some somewhere on the line, people

663
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: change their minds about hating this dude. Yeah, and not

664
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Speaker 1: just wonder if he'll be the last one. You know,

665
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: maybe he won't, But I just it just makes you think,

666
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, and maybe and maybe and

667
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not even saying you're wrong. Maybe

668
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: if it happened now and his you know, everything just

669
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: moves back about ten years, maybe it is different now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, we have kind of lost

671
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Speaker 1: the plot on this motherfucking social media shit a little bit, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like and like I said, and like I said,

673
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 3: and I might be wrong, but because just the way

674
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: people function now and and and it's like everything is

675
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: like on speed and acid is just really quick and

676
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: really fast, and every better got these hot takes and

677
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: shit like that. You know, I wonder what these same

678
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: people feel the same way. Some would now, I love

679
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: some would, But would a lot of people be as

680
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Speaker 3: forgiving if it was to happen today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, we definitely don't have the impulse

682
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: of a gift as much online. But I just think,

683
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much I think this is.

684
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: Nothing else tells you how much online in real life

685
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: ain't really got shit to do with each other sometimes, correct,

686
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm not sure that this, like well,

687
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: online people is mad. I'm not sure that that's next

688
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: necessarily a reflection of the broader views of society. So

689
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't think. So. That's why I say, even if

690
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: it happened to day, I'm not sure that you know

691
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: it says, I don't know y'all picked the person. I'm

692
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: not trying to wish this on anybody, but say some

693
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: superstar does something similar and then you know, ten years

694
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: later they end up retiring a champion and all this shit.

695
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they're not being memorialized on TV

696
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: shows and people feel bad form and stuff if they

697
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: truly have rehabilitated their image and stuff. I just don't know. Anyway.

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00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: That was a long one. But Butterfly in guy, I

699
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: can go twice.

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Speaker 7: It's high Aye, take our look, it's in our book

701
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Speaker 7: A reading rainbow. I can go anywhere, brings and ways

702
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Speaker 7: and grow.

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Speaker 1: Reading rainbow.

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Speaker 2: Can be anything.

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Speaker 8: Take our look, it's in our book, a reading rainbow,

706
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Speaker 8: A reading rainbow.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the show. Guys. So kind

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Speaker 1: of talked about this new topic in this so no

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Speaker 1: need to redress it to Burney received death threats from

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders supporters. What for what.

711
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: She said? She was gonnavote for them.

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00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Bernie supporters do that? Is that a

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Speaker 1: a thing podcast today? That excused us by saying that

714
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: it's as that's so upset about, you know, the plight

715
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: of the poor. I'm like, so, y'all death threatening? Let

716
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Speaker 1: me check my notes in Ava Durnee somebody who actually

717
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Speaker 1: does a lot of actually.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't something, actually does a lot of words.

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Speaker 1: Maker of the thirteenth and when they see us try to.

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Speaker 3: Educate people, that person okay, oh my god. A lot

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Speaker 3: of the champions like helping people and having.

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Speaker 1: Okay, motherfuckers are crazy. Made the movie for them about

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00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: the man, made the movie about the man that Bernie

724
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: marsh with What are you just mad? He wasn't in

725
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: the movie? Is that what it is? Should have cast

726
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: like a young Jewish actor to be in the background

727
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Speaker 1: wearing glasses.

728
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Speaker 2: Yep, we're in the back.

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Speaker 1: Ava Durne is one of the most celebrated black creatives

730
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: of our time. But over the weekend or or whatever,

731
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Speaker 1: the crosshairs or overseealous Bernie Sanders supporters who took issues

732
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Speaker 1: with her critique in their candidate Friday evening the Vermont

733
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Speaker 1: centeror tweeted out, I've got news for the Republican establishment.

734
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us.

735
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Speaker 1: He was feeling himself going into Nevada the next day.

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Speaker 1: He would go on to win the second cockas in

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Speaker 1: the primary season of the primary season and the first

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Speaker 1: nominating contest in the West in Nevada. While this in

739
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: voting his diehard fans and allies, dub Rene wasn't entirely sold.

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Speaker 1: I'm undecided, but I know this isn't what I want,

741
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: she wrote in response to Sanders tweet Saturday, and then

742
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Speaker 1: people started replying right.

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Speaker 3: She didn't say she wouldn't vote for him. She just

744
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: say I'm undecided, and a lot of people. It's a

745
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Speaker 3: lot of fucking candidates.

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Speaker 2: It's like a clown car act down here, y'all.

747
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Speaker 1: You know how much I admire. You have my direction.

748
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I want you to go. But even if your candidate

749
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Speaker 1: isn't Warren, I know whatever decision you make will be

750
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: in the interest of what you feel is best for

751
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: yourself and more point of our community, said Frederick Joseph.

752
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: Let's see Amishia says all of the Bernie Bros. That

753
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: state up a straight up clown straightening at Ava's life

754
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: just started a war. Y'all. Y'all are asking for receipts

755
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: on her service, her fight for justice. They are in

756
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: playing sight. Don't play yourselves, Ava is a title to

757
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: her opinion, You're not entitled to make death threats. But

758
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: aside from the initial support, Sanders supporters quickly caught win

759
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the Duvena's parent apathy towards their fave, and very soon

760
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: she was bombarded with messages that ran the gamut from

761
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: disappointment to her anger. Ava, what is it you want then?

762
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: A little surprise to your tweets? Since I have always

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Speaker 1: seen you as a progressive woman, wrote one woman, to

764
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Speaker 1: which the filmmaker responded, so you're saying if I disagree

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Speaker 1: with his statement that I'm not a progressive woman. Is

766
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: that what you've just written here? Right, people on here

767
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: getting emotional about it. One man without keeping the eye

768
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Speaker 1: on a real ball, She elaborated, I understand exactly what

769
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: he's saying here, and I don't agree with it. He

770
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: can't win that way, and he surely cannot govern that way.

771
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: How's he gonna get anything passed? How's he gonna move

772
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: anything forward? However, once the discussion became ugly and violent,

773
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Speaker 1: Duvenae typed out, said, yeah, it was this picture of

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Speaker 1: a little little baby sipping on uh sipping on, I like,

775
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Speaker 1: show y'all like the baby was sipping on a milkshake.

776
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: His eyes is real big. She did that thing where

777
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: you like you like tweeted out as a meme, and

778
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: it was like, Bernie Supporter is terrorizing my mentions while

779
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm off enjoying my Saturday and the little the little

780
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Speaker 1: baby is adorable, but I don't know if it's showing

781
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: in the chat yet. It's moving so yeah, okay, yeah,

782
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: well let me know if it doesn't publish. But yeah,

783
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Speaker 1: the little baby just looks like these motherfucker's crazy face

784
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: is like, oh the mines that is sip on this

785
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: this strawberry milkshakell my business. These motherfuckers trying to try

786
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: and act crazy tonight. That's how the baby looks. But yeah,

787
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Speaker 1: some of the threats sent to so people have receipts

788
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Speaker 1: for the threats because you know, people always say no

789
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: one gets death threats. Is not true? What ever? Or

790
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, so people say how to get yourself on

791
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: the guillotine list one oh one. Really didn't think I'd

792
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: have to take her out in the class war. But

793
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: when you show your ass like this, you're it's gonna

794
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: get capped. Another person, this bitch made a movie lo

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Speaker 1: o l don't. I don't know what that one means.

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: And then someone also said, oh wait, wait, wait wait,

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Speaker 1: this is a tweet that has white people say that

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Speaker 1: Ava death threats. This y'all through the damn point.

799
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Speaker 2: Yes you did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, box trolls and algorithms and some humans

801
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: are doing what they do. Neither Ava or nor Susan

802
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Saranda deserve their amount of vitrio hate threats they have

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00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: received today. It is uh, it is outrageous and unacceptable.

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00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: It needs a stop. And that's Rosa Clemente who said

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00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: that I wonder what death threats she got in her flies.

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Speaker 2: You know, they just dropped from one to the next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but man, it's just it's really like you can't

808
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: have an opinion that is not like sucking this dude's

809
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: dick without somebody like trying to kill you.

810
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: They will find you.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is, like his supporters are some punks.

812
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: They not finna do shit, like they always talking we're

813
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: gonna kill the rich and y'all. They don't even have guns,

814
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: like they really not about to do nothing. They wouldn't

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00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: bust a grape in the fight, like, they're not that

816
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: type of person. So I don't even know why they

817
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Speaker 1: get on line and do that, or maybe they've just

818
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: been infiltrated by like some people that want to make

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00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: them look bad, so they do that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the weirdest part is that if you want to be

821
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: in their little group, you can't call for any accountability.

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00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: You can't even say, like this is wrong, hey, fellow supporters,

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Speaker 1: chill the fuck out. Bernie Sanders has had to say

824
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: that to me. I would be in to me if

825
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I was him. I feel embarrassed because no other candidate

826
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: in the last at this point four to six years

827
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: on the Democratic side have had to say that Obama

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Speaker 1: had the most votes of all time in America, highest

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Speaker 1: voter turn out. Ever, he didn't have some rabbit ass

830
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: attack everybody fan base, right, So this is different and

831
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: unique to this man, and it's not something about it

832
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: is not okay. I don't know if it's just because

833
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: he's using anger as his bully pullpit, and much like

834
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Trump uses anger, is attracting a certain type of person

835
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: that wants to angrily like tweeted people and threaten him shit.

836
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: But the more I'll listen to people and see people

837
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Speaker 1: just completely be like I'm for Bernie Sanders and I'm

838
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna make an excuse for the way people attack folks,

839
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: is the more I'm just turned off by that fan base.

840
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: Like that's literally the problem. I don't even think people

841
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: have that much of a problem with his politics as

842
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: much as these people. And it's not just mean. They're

843
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: harassing people and threatening them, Yes they are mean. Is

844
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: your hair ugly? Yo? That's what's wrong with your edges?

845
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: This is this isn't just me like like what the

846
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: fuck is wrong with people? Were gonna kill you, We're

847
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna put you for the guillotine, We're gonna I'm gonna

848
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: cut your head off. A ship like Nigga. That's something

849
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: crazy with you. The fact that y'all even think this

850
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: ship is cute to say, you know, like I have

851
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: more cynical thoughts to say about that whole group of people,

852
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna just leave it at that for now.

853
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: But annoying.

854
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: Yes, like I said, I've gotten better and my anger

855
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: isn't as intense, but it's still there and it can't

856
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: come back.

857
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is fucking weird, man.

858
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.

859
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: Y'all act like he's going to fucking it's it's almost

860
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: like anything you say against him is the outomn every

861
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: It's like it's like the fan base goes in panic.

862
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: Anything just sends them in like a fucking panic, and

863
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: you're like, y'all need to calm the fuck down.

864
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's I really just hold that, uh that

865
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: the Democratic candidate when is in twenty sixteen, I think

866
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: it would be better served if it was a Democratic

867
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: candidate that actually cared about the rest of the people

868
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: in the party. Yes, I think that would just be

869
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: better for America. Not necessarily a Democratic party, but just

870
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: the for the prime of progress that you need to

871
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: have to get shit passed as a president, I think

872
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: it would just be better, but fuck it, it might

873
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: this dude feel to be the one man show and

874
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: everybody gotta be okay with that. Okay, cool, But yeah,

875
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: his people are fucking the worst. Man.

876
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: They are obnoxious, They are fucking irritating.

877
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's like, I like, what the fuck happened

878
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: to just like, and I know it's not all of them,

879
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: but it's just like, like I said, there's just a

880
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: contingent of them that is so just yeah, it's not

881
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: like and they think it's an attribute and I'm like, nah,

882
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: that's crazy and.

883
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: It's almost cult Like you're, like, the fuck is wrong

884
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: with y'all.

885
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you're doing this because you care about

886
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: poor people. When you're threatening to kill people, I don't

887
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: think that that's the same. Dog Like, I don't like,

888
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: just trying to win hearts and minds and as whatever

889
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: the fuck this shit is that you like, Like I

890
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: said to me, it would make more sense if this

891
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: was some type of counterattack where people were pretending to

892
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: be Sanders fans doing outland this shit to make people

893
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna associate this type of behavior with

894
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, Like that would be smarter than the fact

895
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: that they're actually being like, no, it's us and were

896
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: proud of it. That's praying out of it.

897
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: We we had like a goddamn badge of honor.

898
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's man, that's crazy. So anyway, Gruffed the Crime

899
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: Dog act gets sixteen years in prison. Oh shit, yeah,

900
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: what did he do? I guess Karen's been having a

901
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: bit of a rough time.

902
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Apparently, so I guess it's a doggie dog word.

903
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: John Morales the John Morales, the actor who played the

904
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: crime fighting cartoon character Macgrufth the Crime Dog, was sentenced

905
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: to sixteen years in prison stemming from a twenty eleven

906
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: arrest in which police sees one thousand marijuana plants, twenty

907
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: seven weapons, including a grenade launcher, and nine thousand rounds

908
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: of ammunition from his home.

909
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck he was ready for the world.

910
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, No wonder the police were hounding him.

911
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: All that marijuana. They had a nose for the case.

912
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: None of that ar wrestling was like today, we take

913
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: a bite out of crime right. The sentence was handed

914
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: down of Thursday, just three days after the forty one

915
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: year old former actor pleaded guilty Morales insisted during the

916
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: citizen hearing that he was non valent, but US District

917
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: Judge Vanessa Gilmore said, everything I've read about you makes

918
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: you seem like a scary person. I mean, but if

919
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: he's non voalent, non valent, just he seems scary. Don't

920
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: mean he's scary. Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't know

921
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: how you can. I don't know what she means by that. Well,

922
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: he did have guns, but I mean, if he wasn't

923
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: killing nobody, I don't know. Uh and girlth The Crime

924
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: dogars a cartoon bloodhound that created by global advertising company

925
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: Satchy and Sachi and the Ad Council in the early

926
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties for the National Crime Prevention Council. The cartoon

927
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: figure was used by US police and spreading crime awareness,

928
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: and it's perhaps best known the tagline take a bite

929
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: out of crime.

930
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: Oh somebody sitting here a pound pupping down.

931
00:48:51,040 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good play that. Well, we have to

932
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: serve determined dog gears. It's a real question. That's a question.

933
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: Mm hm hmmm. His lawyer couldn't get him off. Guys.

934
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I thought he would have told the police they were

935
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: barking up the wrong tree. All right, that's sad. What's

936
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen next to day? Police about to be beating

937
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: black people? Just kidding. They were always doing that. We'll

938
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: never be able to catch them when they stop. Mad

939
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes dies in a homemade rocket disaster on a

940
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: mission to prove that the Earth is flat. That's right, y'all.

941
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: He was a flat earther, or maybe I should say

942
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: a flat earther.

943
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 2: He ended up just like his pancakes.

944
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Flat that don't have nothing to doing anything. It don't battle.

945
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: I know you just wanted to hear the sound. Yes,

946
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: uh like his pancakes, Yes, okay uh in December.

947
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: And one that didn't hit the ground. Did he have

948
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: to flip like the pancakes?

949
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: What did the pancake part just come into?

950
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 7: All right?

951
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: The pancakes are flat? And you said flat like pancakes?

952
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 3: You know how I'm just says flat.

953
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: He's a flat earther. Yes, you do want to turn?

954
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Do you want pancakes? Do you want to go to

955
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: I hop tonight? Is that what's happening? Do you my

956
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: pancake material over there?

957
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: And I don't know why your breakfast time brunch time?

958
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Ny back to the brunch.

959
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Splot switching these funds out from flat Earth to pans.

960
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: You know, my connections ain't got to make sense.

961
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: It's just fun. So I like to say, batter up

962
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: of doing this now. So in December, Buttress, by his

963
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: convictions at advances in the Homemade Rocket Tree, Mad Mike

964
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Hughes flipped on a camera and fantasized about the moment

965
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: when he shows Mankind that it lives on a verdant disc.

966
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: The plan was simple, firing to the sky on a

967
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: steam power rocket and trigger balloon to carry him to

968
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: the carman line the one hundred kilometer barrier that separates

969
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: ter restaurant from extraterrestrial filming the entire way for three hours.

970
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: The world stops, Hughes says during the live stream. Hughes al,

971
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: I guess so, a self styled daredevil, flat Earth theorist

972
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: and limousine stuntman dodged Saturday when this jury rigged the

973
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: contraption propelled him on a column of stee spiraled through

974
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: the air and cratered into sagebrust outside of Barstow, California.

975
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: He was sixty four.

976
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: Holy shit.

977
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: It was unsuccessful and he passed away. A long time

978
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: collaborator wal those stakes.

979
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean, did he do it

980
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: like they're doing, like, like what up? They just strap

981
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: a chair to some balloons and he was like, we

982
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: going up, baby.

983
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he was just what says

984
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: steam power rocket, So he probably was like, Hillary, will

985
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: you marry me? A video the launch and crash posted

986
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: by freelance reporter Justin Chapman showed a green parachute falling

987
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: away from the rocket moments had to take off. Well,

988
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: that's not good. It's unclear why the rocket failed to

989
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: return safely.

990
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: Well because it was rigged.

991
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if it didn't have a green parachute, that

992
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 1: might have something to do with it. I'm just saying,

993
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: as it had on early occasions, Hughes had ridden the

994
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: rocket back to Earth on a parachute after other success

995
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: for launches. It was a tragic end for Hughes, perhaps

996
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: the most visible and the colorful advocate of the theory

997
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: that the Earth isn't sapphire and the emerald globe revolving

998
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: around a massive star, but rather a flat plane with

999
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: the tiny sun above it. He dedicated the past several

1000
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: years and it's life the proven the theory from a

1001
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: high perch. I guess he's proven it in heaven.

1002
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: Now he didn't. Yeah, I'm not even stupid, queen.

1003
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: It's like, how do we get Day and Knight and

1004
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: all this bullshit as everything's fucking flat.

1005
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: In March twenty eighteen, he wrote his garage made rocket

1006
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred and seventy five feet above the Mojave Desert

1007
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: good Come, reaching a speed of four hundred kilometers. Steaks

1008
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: told the AP it was the next step in hughes

1009
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: mission to photograph the world. It'll shut the door on

1010
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: this ball Earth, he said. Hughes recently signed on with

1011
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: the Science Channel to document this project on the television

1012
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: program Homemade Astronauts.

1013
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: To come on, man, homemade astronauts.

1014
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean your homemaker porn not not not going to space. No, no,

1015
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: you don't.

1016
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 3: You don't homemade chick that people actually got theories on

1017
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 3: and math equations on and ship like that.

1018
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: Your homemade bread Okay, yeah you do. You don't make cakes,

1019
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: homemaker astronaut.

1020
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 4: Uh?

1021
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: The channel was in part, was it? Which is part

1022
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: of Discovery? Said in the statement. Our thoughts of prayers

1023
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: go out to his family and friends. Did a difficult time.

1024
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: It was always his dream to do this launch and Science,

1025
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: Uh the Size channel was here to chronicle his journey. Yeah,

1026
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: it sounds like it just fell flat, but a spokesperson

1027
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: for the network wouldn't say A producers asked him to

1028
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: rain in his flat Earth commentary for a channel to

1029
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: ask science in its name and at least theoretically would

1030
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: want to assure yours that the Earth is in fact

1031
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: around and a promo video ahead of I can't remember

1032
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: which which of the channels.

1033
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: Has switched from like Science and shit to the ELC

1034
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: to the Learning Channel.

1035
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: That's the one, because I know the Learning.

1036
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: Channel used to fucking learn. Now it's everything.

1037
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, so now it's like ghost Brothers and shit

1038
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: and you're like this hate So I guess maybe Discovery

1039
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: was about to go that route.

1040
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like, hey, this right here, get views y'all.

1041
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: Y'all don't want logical shit.

1042
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: And the promo video ahead of the launch, Hughes does

1043
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: not mentioned his beliefs when he explains why he has

1044
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: endeavored on his now tragically futile mission is to convince

1045
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: people they can do things extraordinarily extraordinary with their life.

1046
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: He said, maybe it pushes people to do things they

1047
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't normally do with their lives and will maybe inspire

1048
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: someone else. He expressed optimism. Before takeoff, we look forward

1049
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: to Saturday, he said, Wow, well you hate to see it, guys,

1050
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, you know, I like to say,

1051
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: what goes around comes around.

1052
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wondered. I wanted to hand up like

1053
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: his egg scrambled. I couldn't help myself.

1054
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: I know that was bad.

1055
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 2: Are you gonna shake your head at me?

1056
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: As long as you having fun?

1057
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: I am having a motherfucking ball.

1058
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: Just laughing in the middle of this tragedy. Tragedy will

1059
00:56:52,920 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: be fell all over the globe. Good, all right, let's

1060
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: rotate to the next one. They you know, you know who?

1061
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: That man was definitely not gonna vote for Bernie Sanders. Oh,

1062
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: because Bernie was leaving the revolution.

1063
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: All right, that's good with them, Karen.

1064
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: How come black women like you, oh shit like me

1065
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: want to see all our good black men locked up

1066
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: in prison? Huh? Why you want to see r Kelly

1067
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: go to prison? Why you want to see Bill Cosey

1068
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: go to prison? How come y'all don't care about Harvey Weinstein?

1069
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Where is the documentary about Harvey Weinstein. It's in a word,

1070
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: while all of them out here just raping away. Okay,

1071
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: they putting our rapists in pre isn't and the white

1072
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: man get the rape with impunity care And I'm sick

1073
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: of this ship. The man he not even he's just

1074
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: sitting around just getting getting the rape you before us

1075
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: them first? Okay, get Jon hashtag them first, Get the

1076
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: white rapists first. Tag all of y'all, work the way

1077
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: down to the black rapist car everybody, And I'm gonna

1078
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: continue to say this. Okay, they letting, they're not even

1079
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: putting this man on trial.

1080
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna trail right now.

1081
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: You're talking about this man is just going around getting

1082
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: to do whatever the hell he wanted to do, and

1083
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: people just seem to be totally fine with it. Oh

1084
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: it's different when the white man rape. Okay, but let

1085
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: a brother try to buy NBC and now we got

1086
00:58:41,520 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: to shut down everything, and sick of this ship. Just

1087
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: just in I'm getting some late breaking news here, card

1088
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: straight off the ap wire. Okay. The talking point of

1089
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: what about Harvey Weinstein has taken a huge hit today.

1090
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: Oh what happened?

1091
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: He is.

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00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: Now being convicted of rape and Criminal Sexual Act. Oh shit,

1093
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: he got guilt, found guilty of two of the five

1094
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: potential criminal charges he faced in his New York County trial.

1095
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Ye has a trial coming to la trials. The hotel

1096
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: world mourns the loss of this courageous talking point to avoid,

1097
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, the responsibility black rapist have faced by having

1098
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: to go to prison and stuff. So it looks like

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00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: you going to jail now. It looks like it's over

1100
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: for the uh, for the people that really.

1101
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: You are going to jail.

1102
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: Seem like it's over for the people that really wanted

1103
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: to continue to advocate for this. You're going to jail

1104
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: for Cosby and and r Kelly and the other black

1105
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: rapists that you know, she get the rape, You're going

1106
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: to jail supposedly. So yeah, he's going to jail. It

1107
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: looks like, uh, you know, we'll see what the sentencing

1108
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: is and then he has another trial and a and

1109
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: the documentary is coming out soon. So yep mm hmm. Uh.

1110
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: You know else people don't talk about Jeffrey Epstein was

1111
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: in prison when he committed suicide. Uh So I mean, look,

1112
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: some of these white rapists is going to jail. Just

1113
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: seem like people don't know there's a whole podcast about Epstein,

1114
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: whole ass podcast. Let's see what else is happening. Uh us,

1115
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: I've never been talking for a while and checked my time.

1116
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: Uh you know what, Let's do one more. This is mean.

1117
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj revealed she has a little sister and then

1118
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: the least political tweet, So she's been sharing more of

1119
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: a personal life on social media and what many leave

1120
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: is an attempt to afset the decline of reputation. But

1121
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: even her most devoted barbs had no idea. She had

1122
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: a younger sibling me who looks a lot like her.

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01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: And I saw the picture. Damn, they look alike. It

1124
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: was like Nigi Minaj and a young Nicki Minaj, which

1125
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: is weird because we know Nigga had all that work done,

1126
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: but like her sister in her favor, like in the

1127
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: face anyway. But yeah, my dad and little sister means,

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01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: she wrote on the cash for a personal video she

1129
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: shared with her one hundred and ten point eight million followers.

1130
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: While Minaj doesn't disclose much about her sister, like her

1131
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: age or location, the resemblance between the two.

1132
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 3: Young women and people are fucking saying, I don't blame her. Yep,

1133
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 3: that's why why we just not learning about them.

1134
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and after everything that happened with her brother and

1135
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: shit too, you know, people will be saying some wow shit,

1136
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, she did go ahead and put that picture

1137
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: out in the clip, menag and Mean are why does

1138
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: this keep moving? Sitting with their heads together with a

1139
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: fun filter on without saying a word, Mean smiles sweetly

1140
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: at the camera and it pants as it pants to

1141
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: their father. Although the clip was innocent enough, the Internet

1142
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: wasted no time and very quickly uncovered that Mean once

1143
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: made a TikTok vio mimicking her sister's archie nemesis, Cardi

1144
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: B by using one of her famous catchphrases from her

1145
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop days.

1146
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: Because that's the bullshit people do.

1147
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 1: The scum of the fucking earth man, that's what they do.

1148
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: Like that's but you know what, that's also the fan

1149
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: base she cultivated, right, Like, that's a mean fan base, doll, Like,

1150
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: she does a lot of mean shit, and then her

1151
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: people do a lot of means and they you know,

1152
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: and the fact that they even went to go find

1153
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: her TikTok to do something like that, Like, so y'all

1154
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: didn't even know this girl existed. Y'all didn't even know

1155
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: who she was any of this shit. Y'all went not

1156
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: just found her TikTok, but I also found a TikTok

1157
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: with her, you know, doing a Cardi b impression or

1158
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: whatever and being like I was, you know, I was

1159
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: fucking was sister, but now canceled or whatever. It's like,

1160
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Uh Yeah, Nigga's blood system made a TikTok

1161
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: with Cardi and now bars are dragging her for it,

1162
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: mused one stun follower. Another said, I expect better treatment

1163
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: of Niggi's sister. It's a picture showing up.

1164
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: Oh she looked, just don't she her?

1165
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: It's crazy like that shit, that's insane, man, Like that's

1166
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: a time machine right there. I know they they family,

1167
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: but that's just like Niggi photoshopped herself from like nineteen

1168
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: eighty eight. It was like, and this is me. That's amazing.

1169
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: Our social media was applouted in Elizabeth Warren for take

1170
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: down of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg during the Democratic debate.

1171
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: Minaj has some very different thoughts on the impending in

1172
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty presidential election and the since the leader tweet

1173
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: she warned, in fighting amongst Democrats could lead to four

1174
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: more years of Donald Trump, the Democrats will continue to

1175
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: beat up each other while y'all laugh, and Trump will

1176
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: win again. She tweeted jokes on who I respect the

1177
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: dells that will not jeopardize a party by playing dirty.

1178
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: Obama never did that pay attention, although she did one

1179
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: show support for Hillary Clinton. Some was surprised by the

1180
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: post that it given that. In a recent interview with Billboard,

1181
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: the thirty seven year old admitted she wanted to see

1182
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: less politics than rap music going forward. My guess is

1183
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure that that was just a

1184
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: subliminal shit talking about Carti, because Cardi is very politically inclined.

1185
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,479
Speaker 1: She always talking about politics and shit outside of rap

1186
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 1: or social media's and you know, they don't really fuck

1187
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: with each other like that, and that could be that

1188
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: thing that people do and you really need to just

1189
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: say it's who you talking about, and instead you say

1190
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: some shit you can't even up home.

1191
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: Everybody in the room, they're like, how I get hit

1192
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 2: by a bullet?

1193
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my guess. That's my guess. I would love

1194
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: rappers to be passionate about rap and that we feel it.

1195
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: She says, so passionate about rap, that we feel it.

1196
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: Everyone has just come into the game. I'm proud of

1197
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: you guys because it's not easy. I know that. Keep

1198
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: on doing your things, she said. And yeah, she ended

1199
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: up deleting the tweets. So but yeah, Nikka and I

1200
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: try a secret little sister all this time, and I

1201
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: don't blame her for not telling these motherfuckers, like as

1202
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: weird as people are on the internet already, and then

1203
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: as weird as her fan base can particularly be. And

1204
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, she she's cultivated that. I

1205
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: mean she's been like go get them before on social media.

1206
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely, people gonna feel vindicated, even if it

1207
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: is a child, people will feel vindicated and using her

1208
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: as some sort of uh you know, way to get it.

1209
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: Nicki Minach. All right, uh man, this story is kind

1210
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: of down the I'm gonna save it for tomorrow. Okay,

1211
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: uh uh all right, let's let's let's do some let's

1212
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: do some fucking with black people real quick. Where else music?

1213
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: Uh scroll up? Okay, It's just gonna take a sweet

1214
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: ass time and get there whatever you feel like it. Okay,

1215
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: here we go.

1216
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 8: Just fucking with those black people. Were just fucking with

1217
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 8: those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1218
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: That's right. It's time to play the game we all

1219
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: hate to play. It's fucking with black people. The game.

1220
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: We go all over the globe, find differ articles, make

1221
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: us feel fucked with them. Will side points course with

1222
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: zeal Tire. One hundred animals are twenty five today's contestants. Everybody, yay,

1223
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: all right, she was fucking with us. First, a rogue

1224
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: black face mannequin snapped in dis Chim store. I don't know.

1225
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: I guess snap means they got rid of Uh. So,

1226
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if the picture showing up for you guys.

1227
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but you guys can see it's a mannequin

1228
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: that's just your standard mannequin that's white.

1229
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: Hm m somebody didn't finish the makeup.

1230
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: Uh it's the standard mannequin that is white, but someone's

1231
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: painted the head brown with makeup or something. Uh. Jan Opperman,

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01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: manager of disc Chim's Killarney branch, claimed the uh maybe

1233
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: it's discemns anyway, claim that the display was put together

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: by an unnamed staff member at the director of the

1235
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: head office, unnamed. Every year we have different ones themes

1236
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: for the campaign sent to us from the head office,

1237
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: said Opperman. We all do it differently. When asked who

1238
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: gave the go ahead for the display to be erected,

1239
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: Iman hung up. She refused to take further calls from

1240
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: our journalist. This KIM Marketing Operations coordinator Oba King motor

1241
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: Bo what Modubu said She knew nothing about the display

1242
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: at the Killarney branch. She said. The only campaign sent

1243
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: out to the stores of Title Beauty Fair and their

1244
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,919
Speaker 1: comedy artwork featured a series of dots arranged in the circles.

1245
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: As you guys can see this picture is a mannequin

1246
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: dressed in what appears to be African African dress, A

1247
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: white mannequin with a brown face painted brown next to

1248
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: a hut display. M h happy Black History mom. Everyone,

1249
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is the African theme display KEM zero two,

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Speaker 1: one hundred.

1251
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 2: Oh, everybody get a hundred?

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01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: Everybody gets a hundred. Uh yeah, that's a that's straight

1253
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: up okay. I don't know how you fucking.

1254
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: It's not like they don't make black manniquins, right.

1255
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: Or maybe you just put the white manniguan out there

1256
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: and just don't pay his face right about Tom Rouge

1257
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: judge in twenty thirty judicial District has been accused of

1258
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: sending racist text messages, allegedly using the N word when

1259
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: mentioning a black deputy and a law clerk and Ascension Paris.

1260
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: Assumption Parish chef Sheriff Leland Falcon said that the messages

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: from Judge Jesse LeBlanc were sent to his former chief Deputy,

1262
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: Bruce Progene for Jon, despite LeBlanc's attorney denying that she

1263
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: sent the messages Falcon or not. Falcon told w b

1264
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: R two that the text messages Prajon received in December

1265
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen referred to Assumption Deputy Eric Taylor as a

1266
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: dirty cop and a thug. The messages also called Taylor

1267
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: and a judge's clerk the N word. The messages were

1268
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: provided to WBR two's investigative Union unit by Falcon, but

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: LeBlanc's attorney alleges that the messages were altered this fight

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: look what okay? The fight. LeBlanc's denial District attorney Rick

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01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: Ricky Babin says that at least six hundred of the

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: judge cases are now under reviewed.

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01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, goddamn right, kind.

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01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: Of has to be if you get caught using that language. Now,

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: I don't know how you determine if it's doctored or whatever,

1276
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: like how you're going to research if the text weren't

1277
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: actually that way, you know. Babin said that at least

1278
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: twenty one hundred letters have been disseminated to every defendant

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: that has appeared before LeBlanc since twenty twelve, when she

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: was sworn sworn in. The defenders as well as their attorneys,

1281
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: have been made aware of the derogatory of racist language

1282
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: the judge has been accused of using. For Jehan, the

1283
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: alleged recipient of the messages, is also admitted to have

1284
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: it an affair with le Blanc. Oh this is messy

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: what what wow? Message message mess it, which she has

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Speaker 1: denied as well. A lengthy investigation was conducted. So she

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01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: just said all this is fake, resulting in for John's admission.

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01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: Oh wait, so then she okay. So then after so

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01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: she denied everything. Then they did investigation, and then she

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: admitted she did it. According to the advocate, the messages

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: stem from what appeared to be an argument over a

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: soured relationship in which Prajan was accused of having an

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,480
Speaker 1: affair with someone else. So she was just fucking everybody

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01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: for Jehan and LeBlanc are both married. Oh damn, what has.

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: Happened in here?

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: So what happens? Okay? So are they saying? Her husband

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: found out about the affair and was like, I'm sending

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01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: all this evidence to the fucking police. Saga, see what

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01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of person you are? At least I was never

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: unfaithful to you with anyone, much less a nigger. One

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01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: of the messages read, what I'm sure you are. I'm

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01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: sure you are with thug nigger Eric. He is such

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01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: a good friend, said another. So two was it? Two

1304
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: racist white people who had an affair with each other

1305
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: were texting each other and then started accusing each other

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: having sex with black people because that's the worst thing

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01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,480
Speaker 1: in the world right. Apparently, names of the two individuals

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: engaging in the conversation were not displayed in the messages. However,

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: one of the numbers connected to the messages said to

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: be the number LeBlanc has known to have used until recently.

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: We have again had a dialogue.

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: So she made sure she made sure that like I

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01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 3: got enough phone number, we.

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01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: Have again had a dialogue with Captain Prjon and he

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: has informed us that the two copies of text messages

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01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: in question were received on Captain Prijohn's private cell phone

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01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 1: that came from cell phone number two two five, that

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: phone being that of Judge Jesse LeBlanc. There's another supporting evidence.

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01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: There's other supporting evidence to confirm Captain Projohn's statement of

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01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: authenticity of the messages received by him.

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 4: UH.

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: Following the news Pajan and Lebloc's relationship surface babbing in

1323
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: the assumption pairs, Public Defender took a rare action and

1324
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: found a joint motion that had a judge removed from

1325
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 1: any hearing cases and assumption pairs. A court day for

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: the motion has not yet been set. Jean was the

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01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: motor and discipline, but the disciplinary action was not disclosed.

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: On the contrary, Leblock's attorney claims the photographs she saw

1329
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: the text messages looked manipulated. I have looked at the

1330
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,879
Speaker 1: alleged text messages and they appear to have it altered

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: your client. Okay, So LeBlanc is the one that didn't confess.

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01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: She's just sticking to it like this all this is fake.

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: It's all made yeah, they.

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01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 3: Can't contact the phone companies and be like, hey, y'all,

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01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 3: this went across y'all network.

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: She says. For example, if you look at both one

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: hat screen cracks present in the lower left count er

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01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: not present in the other. The type the type front

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01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: with the alleged phone number matches exactly, but the text

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: botches in both do not, meaning someone has deliberately manipulated

1341
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: the content. Okay, okay, well we'll see in court. The

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01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: n DOLAC is not sold on the bloc's claims that

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: she did not send the messages, and it's calling for

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: a resignation. Although Judge Jesse LeBlanc denied sending these messages

1345
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: from her phone, we find it hard to believe that

1346
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: anyone else would have access to a judge's phone while texting.

1347
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: The Chief Criminal Deputy said bathroom ruge is NAACP brand

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01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: president Eugene Collins.

1349
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: So there are things these ain't y'all, ain't no nobody.

1350
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: Collins continue this act show is a blatant disrespect for

1351
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: members of the African American community and further shows of

1352
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 1: Judge LeBlanc shouldn't be serving. The NAACP is planning a

1353
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: series of peaceful demonstrations both electronic and physical. So zero

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: two hundred, can I.

1355
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: Give listen to seventy five?

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01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm dropping it twenty five because they actually did the

1357
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 3: right actions by doing investigation and like, hey, you know

1358
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 3: the possibility of punishment behind this. We didn't need to

1359
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: look into your case, your cases that you've done in

1360
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: the past. Yeah, I mean I wish more did this,

1361
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 3: so but people to go against it and shit like that,

1362
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: like they have an opportunity and a chance to appeal,

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01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 3: y'all give it a fifty four similar reasons where it's

1364
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: like fifty for it even happening and all this shit.

1365
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that they're doing the right thing and

1366
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 3: looking at all her cases again and making sure.

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: She's off the bench for any new cases, because right

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: would it be in the criminal Uh, let's let's like

1369
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: a black people system. I guarantee you a lot of people.

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: She said to Jail with the Niggers that she hates.

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01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: Rape victim made to wear black face and afro wig

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01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: to protect her real identity during the interview. No, a

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01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: French television show, is being called out for racism after

1374
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: opting to dress a rape victim and former teenage prostitute

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: and black face to protect her identity. So do you

1376
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: niggas not have access to the pixels that we have?

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: Can't you just pixelate and you know, modulate?

1378
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,879
Speaker 1: Yes? Like isn't is this is this exclusive to America

1379
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: that you can do this?

1380
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: Nobody? Apparently nobody's got this technology.

1381
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: And I saw the picture, like if I knew if

1382
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 1: I can look at that picture and be like, first

1383
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: of all, you can sell it is flawless. But if

1384
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: I can look at that picture and be like, I

1385
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: can just imagine her as a white girl, right, then

1386
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: what is it done? It's not like, were y'all just

1387
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: trying to do a light flex on y'all make those

1388
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 1: artists or what? Going to? The Daily Mail, Sunday September

1389
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: seven to eight, which is a popular weekly news show,

1390
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: aired an interview with a teenage girl identified only as

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: Nina as part of its usual Portrait of the Week segment. However,

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: viewers couldn't help but notice her strange appearance. So okay,

1393
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: so right away the black face doesn't work. If people

1394
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: are like, something doesn't look right. This is not this person, right,

1395
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: So right away it didn't even pass the smell task,

1396
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: Like who else was in the room looking at this

1397
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: process and didn't go, we can still that as a

1398
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: white woman, you know, And then what would the answer event, Okay,

1399
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: put these fake lips on and these monkey ears, so

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01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that. Let's go ahead. Can we

1401
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: get some shoe polish? Y'all?

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 3: Budget too tight, y'all couldn't afford to manipulate shit or

1403
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 3: talk to her back of something to fuck?

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 4: Is this?

1405
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: It was later confirmed that the producers of the show

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: used black face makeup. They also gave her a frizzy

1407
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: course texture wig to make her appear like a black person.

1408
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what they think black people look like.

1409
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: Later on in the interview house, we gave her nose,

1410
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: a big red nose. We also had a chewing on

1411
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: some watermelon the disguise her mouth. We didn't want people

1412
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: to see exactly what she was saying.

1413
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 3: We had her fingers greasy like fried chicken.

1414
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: Then we had to do a little soft shoe because see,

1415
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: no one's ever seen her soft shoe before, so you know,

1416
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: we had to protect our identity, you know, So we

1417
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: had to do we had to do.

1418
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 2: And then we gave her a plate of greens.

1419
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: Booms we stuff two pillows in the back of her

1420
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: pants because you know, and you know, we just want

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: to make sure the criminals zero chairs will finding her.

1422
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 3: And we made some sweet tea. We made it so

1423
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 3: thick that it looks like.

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: Syrup, and then were we did a voice over with

1425
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: her and we replaced it with slave language, so you know,

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: when you see it, she's talking about, you know, the

1427
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,560
Speaker 1: Harbor ordeal she went through. Uh, we just want to

1428
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: make sure that this is you know, said in the

1429
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: same cadence as uh, you know how we imagine slaves talk.

1430
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: So I just want to be thorough here, That's what.

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: The other thing that's weird about it, too, is like,

1433
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 1: and I hope this didn't happen, but you know, you're

1434
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 1: setting her up for people to be on social media

1435
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: mad at her on Sir Rachel Dola's out shit and

1436
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: literally the stories about her sexual assault and sex traffigant.

1437
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: So like you, I put that on you, not her,

1438
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: because maybe she didn't. You know, it is France, so

1439
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fucking history is over there.

1440
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: But maybe she's a child too, well she's younger or whatever,

1441
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: but I mean, like I think she's seven okay, so yeah,

1442
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: a child, but like maybe a seventeen year old and

1443
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: had a whirl thought it'll be like, wait, wait, wait

1444
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: a minute, guys, this is gonna end up making me

1445
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: look terrible. Don't do this.

1446
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 2: They might not fight you on it, right.

1447
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: But nigga, y'all do uh. Later on in the interview,

1448
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: the host Stephanie asked Nina questions about a book she

1449
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: called Papa vans Me Sherry, would father come and get me?

1450
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: But when her father appeared during the segment, he was

1451
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: very clearly a white man. God dammit. So y'all didn't

1452
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: blank out the father. What the fuck? How the fuck

1453
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: the father wasn't also in black face?

1454
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: Do this?

1455
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: Do this? Jesus Christ, that's her picture there?

1456
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 2: Ok okay, okay, that's a picture.

1457
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they did a good job on the

1458
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, on the getting the like even skin tone

1459
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 1: and shit. Normally black face. This is good black face.

1460
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that's one thing we are fair about

1461
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: here at the Blackout Tips. Okay, a lot of podcasts,

1462
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: oh a black face terror was always bad. Sometimes you

1463
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: see a black face and you go, damn, you would

1464
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: have on first look, you would have got me. Okay,

1465
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: and I gotta give you credit if I would have

1466
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: looked at TV real Fast Ip and like, oh it

1467
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: was okay. Yeah, the sloppy and tone Deafina tiled to

1468
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: protect the seventeen year old quickly drew our mockery from Fast,

1469
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: who accused produced are relying on damaging racial stereotypes. But

1470
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: the show host Harry Roselmax, who was black himself.

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh god no, did he double down?

1472
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: He defended his team. He black himself, so he was like,

1473
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: I would know. The choice of this makeup was made

1474
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: after a test by experts, with the agreement of Nina

1475
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 1: and her parents, noting that the segment was never intended

1476
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: to mock anyone without going into details that can help

1477
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: him not black?

1478
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 2: The fuck is this, sir?

1479
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: Without going in details that can help identify Nna. This

1480
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: choice was most visually efficient. It had it has happened

1481
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: that we approved in a similar context to opposite, make

1482
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: a lightning the skin of a black woman, allow her

1483
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: to testify. Y'all really don't have the pixels though, Like,

1484
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: for real, is that not a thing over there? I

1485
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: just feel like it's gotta be a thing. The real

1486
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: Some stand up debate the societal debate supported by the

1487
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: brave testimony of this teenager and her father has been

1488
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: left in the background, he said voice in this frustration

1489
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: with the controversy as overshadowed the intent of the interview,

1490
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: which was a highlight sex trafficking over seven than teenagers.

1491
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: But that's your fault. That's your fault. The story didn't

1492
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 2: get out there, right, y'all fucked up?

1493
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: Why y'all talk about everything else but the story bit

1494
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 3: of your fault just.

1495
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: Because we brought her out here and uh, blackface with

1496
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: a natural hair wig, y'all niggas getting distracted?

1497
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: What about the real story? Okay, sir oh man?

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01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, Uh, zero two hundred.

1499
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 2: One hundred. But you know I give I'm gonna keep real.

1500
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 3: The dude get a hundred, the makeup artists to station,

1501
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 3: all of them get a hundred.

1502
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: Uh, the teenager.

1503
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: I don't give her a hundred because you know, she

1504
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 3: actually talking about some shit that actually really happened to her,

1505
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 3: and it fucking got overshadowed because the adults in the

1506
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 3: situation were fucking stupid.

1507
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. You know that I have to

1508
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: give everyone a hundred except her. I don't. I don't

1509
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: really blame her at all. But damn, like.

1510
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 2: Your father, somebody nobody was like, this isn't right. Why

1511
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: why don't y'all talk to her back?

1512
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of if you but like this,

1513
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 3: if you didn't have pixelate and features in the budget,

1514
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 3: talk to her back.

1515
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: And this nigga is black? Like how you how you

1516
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: ain't know that one? Is it just different? Is it

1517
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: just no black facing in France? Is that is that

1518
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: a thing?

1519
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: I doubt that?

1520
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, all right, well, all right, let's move on, guys,

1521
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: just move on to something else. Time to do some

1522
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: guests the race.

1523
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 4: Now that it is time for some guests the race.

1524
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 4: That's right, it's guests the race time. Now, that is

1525
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 4: time for some guests the race.

1526
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: That's right, guests, the race time. That's right, it's time

1527
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: for guest the race. The number one game shall go

1528
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: to the podcast when we read the play news artist

1529
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: from all over the globe, and we have our contests

1530
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: today Karen and the chat race the race, and of

1531
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: course everyone playing is a stone cold racist. All right,

1532
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: let's see who is on the docket for today. A

1533
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 1: national lottery con man jailed for two point five million

1534
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 1: euro fake ticket fraud. A con man who cashed in

1535
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 1: a fake National Lottery ticket to claim two point five

1536
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: million euro jackpie has been jailed for a pound I

1537
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 1: mean two point five million pounds the jackpot has been

1538
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: jailed for nine years m get less time for killing somebody.

1539
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: Edward Puttman fifty four, claimed he had found the winning

1540
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: ticket under a seat in his van in two thousand

1541
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: and nine, just before the deadline of claim the wind passed,

1542
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: but say Albn's Crown Court her he was helped by

1543
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 1: Kemeline insider Jiles NIBBs, who knew how to cheat the system.

1544
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: Oh so y'all all going to jail right?

1545
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: Putman of kings Langley and her lord Shire was found

1546
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: guilty by fraud by false representation. The court heard the

1547
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: fraud came to light after mister Gibbs, who had a

1548
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: row with the with Putman over the winnings were divided.

1549
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: How the winnings were divided?

1550
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 3: And that's the only happened fall out about the money.

1551
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: Y'all could have got away with it too.

1552
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 1: So mister NIBBs took his own in October twenty fifteen,

1553
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: oh sentencing, So look, you would have got away from

1554
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 1: it if it wasn't that, if it wasn't for that killing.

1555
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Sentencing Putman, Judge Philip Gray called it sophisticated Kevally plan

1556
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: and diligently operated fraud. You would have got away with it.

1557
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: But this, with this, but quite plainly you agreed, He added,

1558
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: this crime struck at the integrity of the National Lottery.

1559
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: You have also intermined the public, undermined the public's trust

1560
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: in the lottery itself, right y'all, y'all fall out of

1561
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 1: my money, right Well, they say there's no honor among thieves. Damn,

1562
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: I haven't watched part three and four mcmillions. Putman claimed

1563
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 1: the win on August twenty eighth August two thousand and

1564
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: nine by using the badly damaged ticket forged by mister NIBBs,

1565
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: who worked for Camelot in the fraud detection department. Mister

1566
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: NIBBs had seen a document contain the details of big

1567
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: wins which had not yet been claimed, and prosecutor James

1568
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: Keeley said there was some trial and error in producing

1569
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: the successful forgery. The court heard each ticket had one

1570
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: of the one hundred different possible unique codes at the bottom,

1571
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: and Putman had gone to twenty nine different shots, providing

1572
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: a different ticket in each before the right number was

1573
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: found at a shop in High Whitcombe, Bucksham, Buckinghamshire. Mister

1574
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: NIBBs confessed to the friends that he had conned the

1575
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: lottery after the route with Putman, a convicted rapist and

1576
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 1: benefits cheats in June twenty fifteen.

1577
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: What the plot twist the hell is happening here?

1578
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: Birds of a Feather? He also told them about the

1579
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 1: technical inaccuracies and the creation of the ticket that Putman

1580
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: of Station Road had used. Evidence suggested that mister NIBBs

1581
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: was initially paid two hundred and eighty thousand pounds by

1582
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: Putman for his part in the rules, followed by much

1583
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: smaller increments totaling fifty thousand pounds. Three years later he

1584
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: would send us to nine months and for benefit fraud

1585
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,759
Speaker 1: at the claiming thirteen thousand pounds in housing and income

1586
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: support following his win. So they won the lottery and

1587
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 1: he still was like, I declared myself for what you

1588
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: can't do that and then went to jail for that,

1589
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: for that welfare fraud. In twenty sixteen, the Gambling Commission

1590
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: found Camelot three find him three million pounds for breaching

1591
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: this operating license regarding controlling databases, investigating prize claims and

1592
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: paying out prizes. A Camelot spokesperson said there was some

1593
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: weaknesses in some of the specific controls relevant to this

1594
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: incident at the time, and we're very sorry for that.

1595
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: All right, Karen, guess the race white. Kara's going with white.

1596
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: Let's check the chat room and see what they believe. Mcmillionaires,

1597
01:27:53,360 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: mcmillions pounds, white jinkies, he's white KKK killer Caucasian capitalists,

1598
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: Harry Potter and the white powerball. White black folks would

1599
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: just denied it was them. The correct answer is everyone

1600
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 1: said white, you got it right, And I'll put his

1601
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 1: picture up. But man, what a crazy story. It's homie

1602
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: turned out to like kill herself and then was a

1603
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: convicted rapist and welfare thief. Like these motherfuckers was up

1604
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: to no good, no good. Mm hm hmmm, trying to

1605
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: get the mc millions and fucked everything up. They'll put

1606
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: you in jail for messing with the money. This picture

1607
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: up yet? Yep? Yeah, sad old blokey, Yeah he did that.

1608
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Uh all right, let's go to the next one. Uh.

1609
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Al Alabama, Alibaman this is oh Alabama. Oh, someone from

1610
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Alabama got it. I was like, what the fuck is Alabama?

1611
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 1: The Alabama woman who was recorded grinding her rear end

1612
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: into the crotch of a copp attent in a handcuff

1613
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 1: her early Sunday is facing a pair of criminal charges.

1614
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: According to court records, Oh shit. April Till twenty four

1615
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: was arrested by police on mister mena disordered conduct the

1616
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: harassment charges the twenty eighteen University of Alabama graduates.

1617
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: It's harassing, all right.

1618
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: She was putting her ass on him. If you know

1619
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I think you do know what I'm saying. God,

1620
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,520
Speaker 1: she put her ass in harassment anyway.

1621
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: Something that somebody called for a left dance officer.

1622
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: The graduate was collared outside of waffle house in downtown Tuscaloosa,

1623
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: just blocks from Bryant Denny Stadium, where earlier that evening

1624
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: the Crimson Todd football team defeated the Universe. She a

1625
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee at the house. As seen in the brief video

1626
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: recording that has gone viral, Till was pinned up against

1627
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: a white house window a waffle house window as a

1628
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 1: cop sought to handcover Till took the opportunity to press

1629
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: her buttets into the officer while breathing, declaring, oh yeah,

1630
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: you like that, you like that? Yeah?

1631
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 2: What.

1632
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa Police declined to release a copy of her arrest report,

1633
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: so it's unclear of either of the misdemeanor cous foul

1634
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 1: against hers related to the vertical lap desk she performed

1635
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: on the patrol man till, the daughter of a pre

1636
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 1: k teacher and a Kenon manager, is seeking to offset

1637
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,839
Speaker 1: her legal colls via donations from visitors to an Instagram page.

1638
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: Went through some legal trouble. If you want to throw

1639
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: me like five dollars venmo me, she added, I like that.

1640
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I guess uh like like like you like that? With

1641
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: all right? Free on a thousand dollars bond. Till the

1642
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: schedule for December ninth hearing in Tuscaloosive Municipal Court Court

1643
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: can guess the race was April till.

1644
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 2: Oh white because they didn't beat it to death.

1645
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: White. All right, let's take the chat real, see what

1646
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: they believe. This is the whitest shit ever a white woman.

1647
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: She was a flat earther. If you get my drift, ah,

1648
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about those pancakes. White negroes have been shot

1649
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: for less venmo in the description white coming to the stage,

1650
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: Brittany the blonde Arian queen twerking and don't have enough

1651
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: money for a bell asking for bunny black pancake tworking white.

1652
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh man, this is tough. I'm going white, pink badge. White.

1653
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: Everyone went with white. It's like y'all knew the strip

1654
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 1: of music already. Yep, but the correct answer is white.

1655
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1656
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: There wasn't no outcast playing. It was that she's my

1657
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: cherry pie.

1658
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: Come on, take in. That's what was happening with dad. Yes,

1659
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 2: that's what you were here. It's that hard stumping.

1660
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. They also had a video. If it's showing, it's

1661
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: only seven seconds long.

1662
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, post some shot me. Yes, that's what they was saying.

1663
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, like you like, oh ship?

1664
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Was this porn? She was trying to show out man

1665
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: holy ship. H But we know that's one video, jail coved.

1666
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,560
Speaker 1: I'll be looking up later. All right, let's go to

1667
01:32:48,680 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: the bonus round MHM and the race, yell saying the race.

1668
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: That's right, double the points, double the rice. In the

1669
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: bots round of guess the race so far caring is

1670
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 1: a rare two for two.

1671
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: Can belive it?

1672
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: How will she mess this up?

1673
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1674
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 1: Were her chances fall flat?

1675
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 2: Yes?

1676
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 1: Will The women accused of stealing expensive watches for men

1677
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: at bars oh shit a scambl a Miami. Miami Beach

1678
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: police say they have arrested a woman accused of stealing

1679
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: expensive watches and other valuables from men she met at

1680
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: the bars. Police say on in January thirty this year,

1681
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 1: man entered the Mandrian Hotel in Miami Beach and began

1682
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: to drink with friends at the bar. That's when that

1683
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: was when, he says Caitlin Nicole Welsh Welsh twitzk twenty

1684
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: five approached him and began to flirt with him. Later,

1685
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 1: the man said he went to his room where the

1686
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: last thing he remembers putting on putting this two wenty

1687
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: thousand dollar watching the hotel room safe. The next morning,

1688
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 1: say he woke up, Welshkawitz was gone, along with the

1689
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 1: contents of the safe, which included several watches value at

1690
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: more than fifty thousand dollars gone, along with cash and

1691
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: several other valuables. Police said they were able to identify

1692
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 1: Wolskawitz after recovering her fingerprints from a wine glass. We goddamn. Later,

1693
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: the victim was presented with the photographic lineup, at which

1694
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: time he was able to positively identify Waskawitz Welsterwitz. I

1695
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: wonder if she slept with him then, because it says

1696
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: like they stayed the night. Welskawitz vehicle was located in

1697
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Sunny Aisles Beach, where she was arrested following a routine

1698
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: traffic stop. She faces grand theft charges. Other men have

1699
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: also identified her as the woman who robbed them used

1700
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: a similar tactic. Oh shit, look, you gotta make it

1701
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: work for you, okay, no point having a web puss

1702
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: here in the dry purse. Is what my grandmama used

1703
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 1: to say, all right, Cane, I always said that, guess

1704
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the race.

1705
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 2: Oh this is a white woman.

1706
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's check the chat room and see what

1707
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: they believe. All right, good, wait for these guesses to

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01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:12,879
Speaker 1: come through. Cardi b but make her white. Caitlin Nicole

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01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: be watching white and doing all she can to get

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01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: hustlers too, with a white lead. White. Yeah, we'll hustle

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01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: to with a white leading. And that's why up Chris

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01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: Lamber's alley Okayama, but where was Gwyneth Paltrow doing all this?

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01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: White woman strikes again? White white bad, Bobby bad Barbie. Okay,

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01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: the correct answer is white. You all got it? Care

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01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: congratulations and I'll try to get her picture of I

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01:35:55,640 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: was today. Yeah, you did good. I thought you another

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01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: time last week. You're out here doing the thing you

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01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: represented for all the black women. Okay, all the black

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01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 1: women snoop offended, Karen is representing. Okay, day to get

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01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: on there and guilt tripping real good. That'll be fun.

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01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: Everybody always gets mad that they're just not yelling at

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01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of them men know how

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01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: to respond to that. They're just they'll just double down

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01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 1: with the anger and everybody's gonna be yelling.

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01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 3: The thing is, when you deal with people like that,

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01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 3: you actually get them to open up and tell you

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01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 3: more and be more intimate with you than you would

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01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 3: the other way around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I kind of hope she does take the

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01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 1: more interesting approach.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 1: Now, obviously it's not therapy, so we're not gonna get

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01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: into all of that. But I figured, you know, because

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01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 1: we know who would get to the bottom of this.

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01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 1: And even though y'all hate her too, y'all would love

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01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: to hear this.

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Speaker 6: You have a responsibility to Ruobid. You have a responsibility

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01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 6: to Harry Dumpling. You have a respondiblity to Dorothy, and

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01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 6: to Septima, and to Rosa whose blue veins was shining

1740
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 6: through her arms when she took that seat on that bus.

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01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 2: They are the reasons. They are the reasons we sit here.

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01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 10: When Deella and Gladyson and and Pearl and had to

1743
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 10: walk in the back door of a fitter so that

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01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 10: we can get on there today in a farm. That's

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01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 10: who You open your mouth, you mat her.

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01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: You matter, tell her I love her to do that.

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:48,679
Speaker 1: It's snoop, it's good. Mm hmmm, that would be so good.

1748
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to let's get the soy ratings,

1749
01:37:53,840 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: guys to sucktim out. A man who threatened his neighbor

1750
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 1: with a sword is an isolated individual. Court heard, oh,

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01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: one of those long wolves. Huh, y'all get him over

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01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: there with swords too. Darren Giddon's fifty one a feather

1753
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Street in Flint pleaded guilty at Northeast Wales Magistrate's Court

1754
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: in Molde to threatening to kill his neighbor juiced Us

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01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 1: Shimalisakus and threatening a possession of sharp object in a

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01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 1: public place. He also pleaded guilty the racist language. The

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01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 1: court heard how in February second, twenty twenty, Gettings had

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Speaker 1: an altercation with his neighbor Wynne Jones, prosecutor, said, mister

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01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Schimalisakas has had difficulties for some time with Gettings, none

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01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: of which were reported to police. However, on February second

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01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 1: and six pm, North Wales Police were called to an

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01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 1: ongoing incident. Mister Jones told the court that Gettings could

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01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 1: be heard shouting to mister timer Lisakus to get out here,

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01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: you polish fuck, and I'm going to kill you. I'm

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01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: going to cut your eyes out. Gettings were seated to

1766
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 1: kick mister childer Lisacus door before returning to his own flat.

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01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 1: Mister Jones said, mister Childlisakus shouted stop kicking my door,

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Speaker 1: in which resulted than Getting's coming back out with what

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01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: was described as a samurai saw and said you're going

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01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: to get it.

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01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 4: Oh.

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01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 1: Mister Childlersacus called the police and mister Jones said when

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01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: questioned by officers, getting said he understood his actions would

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01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 1: scare but that was his intention, Well, damn, just go

1775
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: ahead and take him to jail. You definitely didn't give

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01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: a fuck. I did it. Yeah, I was trying to

1777
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,040
Speaker 1: threaten him, you know, possibly even make him feel I

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01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: was intending to murder him. Why is that against the law?

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01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Why, sir, Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, oh so, so you're just taking people to jail

1781
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: for breaking the lot in Okay, it ain't very much.

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01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Shounds a bitch, bitch, it ain't word about jim shit.

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01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 2: I don't give a jam.

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01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to jail.

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01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 2: You can take me to.

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01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: Jail, knock me out. Don't wait for somebody to say,

1787
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 1: chair magis straight. Philip Jones said they would deal with

1788
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: the three charges as one. Gettings was ordered to complete

1789
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: a twelve month community order with probation and pay a

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Speaker 1: fine of two hundred pounds, which was reduced to three

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01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: from three hundred, along with eighty five pounds court costs

1792
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,879
Speaker 1: of ninety pounds surcharge. The soil will also be destroyed.

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01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: Mister Jones said, we have considered a restraining order. We

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Speaker 1: don't believe it it's practical to have one in this case.

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01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: You have a chance. Now go back to your flat.

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01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: You will still opposite him. So you must find a

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01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: way to live in harmony, keep away, and keep out

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01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 1: of trouble. It is up to you to self restrain. Okay,

1799
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: so when that man dies on your hands, shaking my head,

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01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 1: restorative justice at work, not for sored crimes, not tell

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01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 1: my watch. All right, y'all, we'll be back tomorrow with

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01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: more of this I now listen. I do have a

1803
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: Hornets game on going to my brother on Wednesday, so

1804
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: it's possible we may be doing our Walking Dad recap

1805
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 1: tomorrow and either no show Wednesday or or something like that.

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01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 1: So we'll figure it out. But just want to let

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Speaker 1: you guys know. So all right, until next time, I

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01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too,