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Speaker 2: We'reout further ado.

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Speaker 3: That's what the game's all about.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you feel like you can't miss.

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Speaker 4: I'm up there could make sense if you try that again. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast NBA Edition. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: joining us. I am Matt Moore, NBA Senior writer for

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Speaker 2: the Action Network, joined as always by Raheem Palmer and

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Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson as we bring you this week's final NBA

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Speaker 2: for the Action Network Podcast. On today's show, in our marquee,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson has been waiting for this for a long time.

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Speaker 2: He's put together an exercise based off of March Madness.

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Speaker 2: The NBA playoffs are here and we are going to

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Speaker 2: be the selection committee. If there were not going to

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Speaker 2: be seatings based off of record, we are going to

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Speaker 2: be the committee that decides who goes where and who

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Speaker 2: plays whom. We'll get to that in our marquee. We

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Speaker 2: have an extended victory lap segment because it's the end

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Speaker 2: of the regular season and I have to give the

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Speaker 2: guys time to promote all the things that they got right.

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Speaker 2: I have like two so throws that and I believe

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Speaker 2: the Brandon also has a thanks for nothing. We'll do

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Speaker 2: all that and more. Let's get kicked off with our marquee.

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Speaker 4: The marquee.

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Speaker 2: If you can hear the shutter from the crowd, Brandon

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Speaker 2: take it away, all right?

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Speaker 4: So, oh, gentlemen, we are the NBA Selection Committee, just

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Speaker 4: the three of us, and only the three of us.

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Speaker 4: We will be determining the entire NBA playoff bracket. We're

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Speaker 4: choosing sixteen teams and we're tweeting it like the NCAA bracket.

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Speaker 4: So we're going to pick four number one seeds, for

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Speaker 4: two seeds for threes, and four fours, so just sixteen,

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Speaker 4: no planes on this one. And we are not projecting

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Speaker 4: how good the team could be. We're not trying to

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Speaker 4: predict in order who the best team is that will

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Speaker 4: play itself out. That's what the tournament is for. We

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Speaker 4: are rewarding teams for what they've accomplished for this season.

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Speaker 4: So however each one of us wants to do that.

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Speaker 4: You strength, the schedule, RPI and net rating efficiency differentials,

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Speaker 4: had to have tipe breaks, as Zachlo says, shwarps and

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Speaker 4: warps and whatever other aclums you want to go with.

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Speaker 4: That's up to each of us. We got to argue

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Speaker 4: about it, come to consensus. We'll pick the sixteen teams.

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Speaker 4: Once we have the four seed lines, we'll throw them

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Speaker 4: into a bracket. And of course, we are the NCAA.

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Speaker 4: We would never ever care about setting up fun matchups

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Speaker 4: or the money or anything like that. And that's pretty much.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna start with the number one overall seed

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Speaker 4: You guys are ready to do it, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: If you're wondering about how this is actionable. The big

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Speaker 2: actually had the best season, like who has been strongest

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Speaker 2: like that should influence your playoff betting, right, Like if

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Speaker 2: can game the NBA regular season. I promise you that,

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Speaker 2: who the actual best teams are, all right, Brandon, I

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Speaker 4: I think so? I mean, I think it has to

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Speaker 4: Were the Suns of the team you would have considered

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have to We're gonna have to talk

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Speaker 2: and so I think they have to be number two here.

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Speaker 4: I think the crux of your argument is that the

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Speaker 4: you certainly would consider it. But I think my takeaway

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Speaker 2: An incredible regular season performance. You can't say enough how

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Speaker 6: So I think even more impressive is the fact that

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Speaker 5: So I think they get it by far, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we we're arguing a lot of us and then

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it sounds like we all agree

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Speaker 4: where we need to disagree. So, Matt, who are yours?

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Speaker 4: Besides the Jazz and the Suns.

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Speaker 2: It's the Bucks and the Clippers. Everyone's going to be

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Speaker 2: But look the Bucks have for me, they check too

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Speaker 2: I understand that the Sixers are going to finish with

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Speaker 2: The Nets have been too inconsistent. They don't take care

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Speaker 4: So rahiem, do you also have the Clippers and the

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Speaker 6: I actually have the Clippers. I mean, I mean, you

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Speaker 6: I have the Clippers above the Suns because they actually

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Speaker 6: Suns have really been slipping. I mean when I've used

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Speaker 6: I think they are close enough with the Sixers to where.

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Speaker 5: I understand it.

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Speaker 6: But I mean, this is the team that just gave

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Speaker 5: To me, the Sixers are just the better team. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and they still have a better record. I mean, like

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Speaker 5: you said, the Sixers are nineteen and sixteen against teams.

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Speaker 6: Above five hundred. The point differentials is very similar. But

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Speaker 6: I got to give the nod to the Sixers just

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Speaker 6: because they have the better record, and also the Books

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Speaker 6: have taken a slight step back this year. So I'm

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Speaker 6: you know, maybe it sounds fair for me to you know,

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Speaker 6: dock them for that, but you know, when this team

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Speaker 6: just can't trust this team as a number one seed.

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Speaker 4: Like, so, yeah, I'm with Raheem on this one. And

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Speaker 6: I mean, everybody was missing in those games, like literally,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, funny how that works? Funny how that works? The

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Speaker 4: The Bucks would not even be my next choice. I

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Speaker 4: The Bucks have mostly had their guys, And I know

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm well endo to cave on this. The Bucks

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Speaker 4: that line for us. We've made that argument for them.

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Speaker 4: To me. Looking at where we're at, I suspect we're

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Speaker 4: Does ever, does anyone not have the nets as a

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Speaker 4: clear two seed? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got there. There are two Sure do we.

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Speaker 4: Yeah? The nets and the nuggets I feel like are

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Speaker 4: That's the kind of the clear grouping of twos. That

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Speaker 6: I took the Lakers, And for me, it was just

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Speaker 5: And that says it all.

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Speaker 2: problem is that you can't. You cannot in this season

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Speaker 2: We're a selection committee.

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Speaker 4: We would never do this. I don't know what sort

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, like the the big name pro rams

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Speaker 4: So let me make the case I have the Lakers

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Speaker 4: When you look at all of our little Pythagorean and

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Speaker 4: Dallas has a great offense, but not a good defense.

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Speaker 4: The Lakers have a great defense, but not a good offense.

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Speaker 4: Here's a couple of key things that stood out to

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing that swung the slight tiebreaker for me

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Speaker 4: The Mavericks record since February third is thirty two and five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I think you're close. Like I've looked

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Speaker 5: See?

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Speaker 5: I didn't. Yeah, I still gotta go with the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, we said, Matt that you are the

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Speaker 4: teams in the two seeds. Side I made it really got.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, look, here's here's another going back to

434
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Speaker 2: claying the glass. Okay, versus top ten teams in their

435
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: top ten point differential, the Mavericks are third in point

436
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: differential versus those teams with a plus one point four.

437
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Speaker 2: They're under five hundred, they're eleven and twelve, but the

438
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: Lakers are eight and fifteen straight up versus teams with

439
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Speaker 2: the top ten point differential. I know that Lebron and

440
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Speaker 2: ad were out, but at some point it's like you

441
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Speaker 2: are what your record says, like you just that's what

442
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Speaker 2: you were. And with a with a minus six point

443
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Speaker 2: like the Lakers have a worse point differential versus top

444
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Speaker 2: ten teams in the league than the San Antonio Spurs.

445
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Speaker 5: That is pretty damning.

446
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Speaker 4: But are we talking about this season, Spurs? You be

447
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Speaker 4: sure you didn't go back like thirteen years or something,

448
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Speaker 4: oh like that.

449
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Speaker 2: I don't, Man, this is.

450
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Speaker 4: Great, this is tough. It feels like we've gotten to

451
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Speaker 4: a similar spot to where we got on the last

452
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Speaker 4: seed lest where I think what we're discovering is I

453
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Speaker 4: think that we may have to give the Lakers the

454
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Speaker 4: NOD on regular season, like we gave the Sixers of

455
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Speaker 4: the NOD. But I think we're discovering that even though

456
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Speaker 4: the Bucks maybe don't belong in that one seed, we're

457
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Speaker 4: seeing some value there. And I feel like we're seeing

458
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Speaker 4: some value on the Mavericks here too.

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Speaker 2: The Mavericks may be better I think than the Will

460
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Speaker 2: we indicate the other reason, I mean, let's go you what,

461
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: no Thursday night game against the Nets said a lot

462
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Speaker 2: about that Mavericks team. Yeah, here's the other thing. I'll say,

463
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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and put Lakers in the two. And

464
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Speaker 2: their reason is the Mavericks are two incomessistant, like they

465
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: lost to the Grizzlies last night. Like, I care a

466
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: lot about consistency, and the the Mavericks have been really inconsistent.

467
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Speaker 2: This is why he keeps telling everybody, don't pen them,

468
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Speaker 2: don't put them in pen for that five seed like

469
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Speaker 2: they are. They are too, They're already they fall in

470
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Speaker 2: the six as of this recording. Like they do not

471
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Speaker 2: take care of business versus the teams they need to

472
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Speaker 2: take care of business against so good and have them

473
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Speaker 2: as a top three seed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the opposite side of of all

475
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Speaker 4: those good ratings against those top teams is they're not

476
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Speaker 4: a top team. So why aren't they well? Because they

477
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Speaker 4: aren't good against the bad teams and.

478
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Speaker 2: Are all right three seeds is probably we're gonna argue

479
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Speaker 2: I think this is where it gets where it.

480
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Speaker 4: Gets to Dallas. Dallas I think is in as a

481
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Speaker 4: three seed. I think there's one other three seed lock.

482
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Speaker 4: I think that that team is the New York Next.

483
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Speaker 4: When I look at they appear to be definitively the

484
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Speaker 4: tenth best team in the NBA, not more, not less.

485
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Speaker 4: They are perfectly a three seed to me. Raheem and

486
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Speaker 4: Matthew guys have the Knicks as a three seed as well.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean they check all the boxes, right,

488
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Like I think, especially with the offense that they've played

489
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: over the last two months, Like their offense has been good,

490
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: and that's what you wanted to see was Okay, they

491
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: could play defense, but can they actually produce the offense?

492
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: And they have. They're they play in a really brutal

493
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: division too. That's a lot of this is they play.

494
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: Think about how many games they play versus the Sixers

495
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Speaker 2: and the Nets, plus the I mean Boston was better

496
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Speaker 2: earlier in the season. They're one in one versus them,

497
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Speaker 2: So like there's you and the Raptors are not. We're

498
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Speaker 2: not pushovers for I think two thirds of the year.

499
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Speaker 2: So uh, they they had a really tough schedule. I

500
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Speaker 2: think that's that's got to be factored in. I need

501
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Speaker 2: to look at what their what was their SRS.

502
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Speaker 4: Yeah, their tenth and SRS ten differential tenth in that

503
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: rating and tenth and Pythagorian. They're literally number ten on

504
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Speaker 4: all of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they've got to They've got to be I

506
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Speaker 2: think in a three seeds. So we've got Mavericks and Knicks. Rahim,

507
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Speaker 2: I want to know who your other two third seeds are,

508
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Speaker 2: because I think this is where we're going to disagree.

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Speaker 6: I have the Miami Heat and I have the Atlanta Hawks, Okay,

510
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Speaker 6: And I think the thing is because we're grading.

511
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Speaker 5: These teams against other teams.

512
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Speaker 6: So as much as I said I don't like the Heat,

513
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Speaker 6: I like them a lot better than some of the

514
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Speaker 6: other teams in the conference, I mean, in the league.

515
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Speaker 6: And then I'm also giving them a little bit of

516
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Speaker 6: a benefit of the doubt because they've also had, you know,

517
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 6: issues with COVID and injuries and they've been decimated and

518
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Speaker 6: you know, still after the All Star break, they've been rolling.

519
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Speaker 6: You know, these these two wins over the Celtics. You know,

520
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 6: despite how how bad the Celtics started, they've been pretty impressive.

521
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Speaker 6: You know, I mean, so it's just like I'm giving

522
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Speaker 6: them the not there. I think, what are the heat

523
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Speaker 6: They're like twenty and what are they since the All

524
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Speaker 6: Star break? They're twenty and thirteen since All Star break?

525
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Speaker 6: And I think, I wait, performance after the All Star

526
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Speaker 6: Break is you know, I wait that heavily because just

527
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Speaker 6: because I think this is the time where everybody's making

528
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Speaker 6: a playoff push and if you're playing other playoff teams

529
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Speaker 6: or teams that are trying to get into the playoffs,

530
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Speaker 6: especially a time when you know, we actually have a

531
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Speaker 6: playing game, so there's more teams who are going for it.

532
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Speaker 5: So I wait at really heavily.

533
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Speaker 4: We're gonna go ahead?

534
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah. And then the Hawks.

535
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Speaker 6: I think the Hawks, they've they finally got healthy, they

536
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 6: got some guys back since bringing in Nate McMillan. I

537
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 6: think this team is really you know, they're playing some

538
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Speaker 6: great basketball, and I like, I had to have them

539
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Speaker 6: as as a three seed.

540
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Speaker 4: All right, So I agree with the Hawks. I don't

541
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Speaker 4: to me, the Hawks, the Hawks and the Necks are

542
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Speaker 4: kind of like the default three seeds. I don't find

543
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Speaker 4: the Hawks super interesting to talk about, Like I think

544
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Speaker 4: that they kind of just fall into this range. We'll

545
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Speaker 4: talk about them more and Matt if you disagree, but

546
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Speaker 4: my I don't agree at all that the Heat are

547
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Speaker 4: a three seed. I actually have the Heat closer to

548
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 4: missing our bracket than being a three seed. The Heat

549
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 4: I was really really underwhelmed with, like the advanced profile

550
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: of the Heat, and I know they lost some of

551
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: the COVID games and all that kind of stuff, but

552
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: here are some of the Heat ratings. This was before

553
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: the Celtics win last night, so you know, yay, you

554
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: beat like another not good team, Pythagorean eighteenth in the league,

555
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 4: SRS nineteenth, differential nineteenth, net rating, nineteenth. We're choosing sixteen

556
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: team guys we want to be above sixteen. Eighteenth and

557
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: nineteenth are not good. Their record with Jimmy and Bam

558
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 4: is now twenty eight and nineteen. That's good. That's not great.

559
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: That's certainly not overwhelming to me as a three seed.

560
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 4: Looking at like head to head records, they're three to

561
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 4: zero against the Knicks and then not winning record or

562
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: good against like all the other teams above them. I

563
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 4: don't think that the Heat should be in consideration here. However,

564
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 4: I'm very surprised who I did come up with. For me,

565
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: it came down to Portland and Golden State for my

566
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: last spot here, and I ended up choosing the Blazers.

567
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Speaker 4: And I did not think that I was going to

568
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: be choosing the Blazers here. The Blazers, I think I

569
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: kind of forgot. I don't know why, but how much

570
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 4: the Blazers also have missed. They've missed CJ McCollum for

571
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: a big chunk, they missed Nurkic for most of the

572
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: season until recently. They're twenty six and eighteen once CJ

573
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Speaker 4: McCollum is on the court. They are two and oh

574
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Speaker 4: against the Sixers, two and one against the Lakers, two

575
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: and one against the MAVs. Especially the Lakers and MAVs,

576
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Speaker 4: those are kind of teams somewhat in their range. Unlike

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Speaker 4: the Heat, their advanced profile is pretty good. They are

578
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: top ten in Pythagorean and differential. They're number thirteen in

579
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: SRS and net rating. They have a top five offense.

580
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: I think I tend I came into this thinking, oh,

581
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: the Blazers aren't really that good. They've been outperforming expectations

582
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: because dame time, and they just keep winning these crunch

583
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: time games. And the profile I feel like it's changed.

584
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: I guess in the last month they've they're closing really well.

585
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: Right now, they're playing well, and I just I had

586
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: them ahead of the Warriors, and I don't really feel

587
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: like the heat are in the conversation. I don't think

588
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come in to you guys at all on that.

589
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: I feel like Matt's can have another team entirely. So, Matt,

590
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: who do you have here?

591
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? We got three different teams? Ryan, who was number

592
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Speaker 2: ten on your power ratings last week on our NBA

593
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Speaker 2: Best Stream presented by MGM on League.

594
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Speaker 5: Past it was the Boston Celtics.

595
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Speaker 2: Was the Boston Celtics. Okay, this is not the this

596
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: is not the recency bias bracket. This is not the

597
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: this is not the ooh, what's been going on in

598
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Speaker 2: the last two weeks bracket. This is this is about

599
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: the NBA season, Okay. And we've we've given edges to

600
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: the Lakers. We've given all these edges based off of

601
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: whatever factors. Let's not get carried away here, like, yes,

602
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: it sucks that this like the Celtics have fallen off

603
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: a cliff oh dispute, but like they've put in the

604
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: work they were one of the last four teams remaining,

605
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: and they've dealt with co like Tatum got covid. They've

606
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: had massive injuries. Kemball Walker has been in and out

607
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: of the lineup constantly. They lose Jalen Brown, Marcus Smart

608
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: missed like a month, and yet there's still twelfth in SRS,

609
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: twelfth in efficiency differential twelfth, and net rating tenth, in

610
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: offense nineteenth, and defense with an RPI of sixteen. Like

611
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: to me, the Boston Celtics have earned a spot here.

612
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: I understand that they've had bad games versus the top

613
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: teams in the Eastern Conference. For sure, that's been rough,

614
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: but they've had some signature wins along the way. This

615
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: was still a very good team throughout the season. I

616
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: think if you look at this they've been even though

617
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: the Heat have passed them in record in these last

618
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 2: couple of games, I think the Celtics have been more

619
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: consistent than Miami. I think they've been better and more

620
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: balanced than the Blazers. Like the Blazers, a lot of

621
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: their differential has been boost up over the last four games,

622
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: where they've just absolutely annihilated teams like they've killed the

623
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Pacers like one thing, Rahimo, I will disagree with you

624
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: openly about like you're rating, You're you're putting emphasis on

625
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: after the All Star break. I would not do that,

626
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: especially this season. The cumulative effective of injuries, the cumulative

627
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: effective like the month of March was the worst basketball

628
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: in the NBA I have seen, Yeah, right, two thousand

629
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: and four, Like it was bad and so like I

630
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 2: can't look at the at those games and take as

631
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: much meaning as I can through the course of the

632
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: entire season. I think the Boston Celtics still deserve to

633
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: be a three seed. Here.

634
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 6: You know what an interesting thing is because when I

635
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 6: look at my model, my model still has this I

636
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 6: think they have the Celtics sixteen because they just got

637
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 6: blown out and back to back games, but they still

638
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 6: have them.

639
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Over to Miami Heat.

640
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, which is just And I think the thing that

641
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 6: I'm struggling with now is sometimes there's teams that break

642
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: the model in opposite directions. Yeah, and I'm wondering if

643
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 6: the Celtics are that team because now I'm watching all

644
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: these games and my model is showing value on the

645
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 6: Celtics and I just can't do it.

646
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: So I think, look, here's the big here's one of

647
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: the big things here. We're not trying to predict who's

648
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: gonna We're not We're not seating this based off of

649
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: who that we think is gonna win.

650
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.

651
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: And so if we're not seeding it based off of

652
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: who we think is gonna win, then I think we

653
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: got to give the Celtics the edge, even though we

654
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: know that they're gonna get annihilated like they are. They

655
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: are that five seed that you know should not be

656
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: a five seed that you're absolutely hammering the twelve seed

657
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: in the tournament like they are that team. They are

658
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: that eight to seven the seventh seed where you're like, oh,

659
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: they should not be favored, like this line is completely

660
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: and everyone's on it, and that team still loses, like

661
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: everyone bets the same way and still cashes. That's why

662
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: I think we're out here, is like the Celtics and

663
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: the I think the Celtics need to be a three

664
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: seed here, Brandon.

665
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm swayed by the argument. I know the Blazers

666
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: were never going to win the argument, but I also

667
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: I had the Celtics ahead of the Heat in my

668
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: kind of ratings, And yeah, I mean, the Celtics are

669
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: the Eastern version of the Blazers argument I made. They're

670
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: high in all those ratings, they are below win expectations

671
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: by like three wins, so they're getting unlucky. They've had

672
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: all these injuries. I don't know how much we need

673
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: to weigh in that Jalen Brown is just out. Now,

674
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: that's too many factors for us. We're three man committee.

675
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: I feel like for the third straight line, we're getting

676
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: our final seed on the line to be a team

677
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: that we think, well, I don't want to bet on

678
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: this team, but I guess they deserve it here. But

679
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: I think it should be the Celtics.

680
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: So for the four seeds, I will go ahead and say, mine,

681
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: the Heat have got to be in Brank like we

682
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: can't not have it. Like I agree they're right now

683
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: the five seed in the East, Like they've got to

684
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: be in. The Blazers have to be in. The Blazers

685
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: like they just based off everything that you've made the

686
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: argument for like the Blazers have to be in. The

687
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: Warriors have to be in based off of you know,

688
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: even though I don't want to treat this recent stretch

689
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: of games like we talked about, like I think there's

690
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: a lot of holes. People are really pumping up the

691
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: twelve and five records since Wiseman and Ubray went down.

692
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: There's some holes that you can poke in that, but

693
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: they've been overall like their defense is to like great defense.

694
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, that's like that's a tournament team right there.

695
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: So that's three raheem. Do you have any arguments with

696
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: heat Blazers Warriors?

697
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 6: No, I don't have any arguments on those. I think

698
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 6: my biggest argument we actually was with the Celtics. For me,

699
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 6: I actually I had them out together.

700
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 4: You have them out your bracket?

701
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't have them in a bracket.

702
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: Are you okay with them being a three seed jumping out?

703
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: Can we agree on that? Have I swayed you?

704
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 5: Not?

705
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 4: Really? I mean.

706
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: Right, hang on again, they see I agree with you.

707
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 6: You want everything if they still have if they still

708
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: had Jalen Brown, I would be cool with it. But

709
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 6: I just think this is a fundamentally different team if

710
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 6: you take Brown out of it.

711
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: Here, think of it this way. I know you can't

712
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: you have to look this up, but think of it this way. Anecdotally,

713
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: how many weeks in a row were the Celtics top

714
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: ten and your power rating.

715
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: For most of the year.

716
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's I've been doing these bedstreams with you

717
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: every week, like just this is gonna be the first

718
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: week the Celtics aren't going to be top ten and

719
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: we're saying okay, and we're dropping and we're dropping them

720
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: to twelve.

721
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 6: Here, Okay, that's fair. You know what, That's fair. I

722
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 6: can live with that, all right, all.

723
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: Right, Brandon, Are we in agreement on Heat Blazers Warriors.

724
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes.

725
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: I don't know how you make an argument against them.

726
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: You could make an argument against the Warriors, but we're

727
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: building a tournament that needs eyeballs and money, and we're

728
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: not leaving out of the tournament. So even if you

729
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: want to make that argument, it's not a good one.

730
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: I was disappointed as we were building this that to me,

731
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: I just felt like there were the sixteen was a

732
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: clear cutoff, and I don't know that we're going to

733
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: agree on that. But I ended up being like, Okay,

734
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 4: here's my number sixteen. And I tried desperately to dig through.

735
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: I kept adding profiles to our Google doc, trying to

736
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: find any other team that I thought could give us

737
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: an argument, and I couldn't really come up with one

738
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: to me, my last team in is the Grizzlies. I'm

739
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: not that excited about it. They're kind of just fine.

740
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: They're fine. They're fourteenth or fifteenth or sixteenth on all

741
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: the different ratings we've talked about, and I don't have

742
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: a lot of great things to say about them there.

743
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 4: I guess yay, John Morant is going to get us

744
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: some eyeballs and money. I just don't I'm not gonna

745
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: I don't know what you're going to do to talk

746
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: me into any of the other options here. My next

747
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: option was the Pelicans, and I tried hard to talk

748
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 4: myself into the Pelicans, even though they should be below

749
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: like another like they should be like a sixth seed.

750
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I have the Grizzlies. I'm curious

751
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: who either of you ended up going with. So, raheem,

752
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: who's your last team in here?

753
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: I had?

754
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 6: I mean, the final four that I had was the Blazers,

755
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 6: the Grizzlies, the Warriors, and the Wizards.

756
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

757
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 6: You know, I probably should have put the Celtics there,

758
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 6: and I do regret that. I think you're one hundred

759
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 6: percent right. I think the Celtics should have been you know,

760
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 6: there over the Wizards. I think I was just a

761
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 6: victim of recency bias. But I do like the Grizzlies.

762
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 6: I mean, the Grizzlies are eighth in defensive efficiency. I

763
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 6: think that I weighed defense heavily, especially if you're in

764
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 6: a playoff setting, and then you know they got Jaron

765
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 6: Jackson back.

766
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: I think they blew.

767
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 6: I think they think about the Grizzlies is they've been

768
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 6: super competitive, and they've blown a lot of games in

769
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 6: which they probably shouldn't have lost. Like they had the

770
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 6: games against the Clippers, which they had no Kawhi Leonard

771
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 6: or Paul George or surge of Baka. They had the

772
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: game against the Nuggets, I'm sure Matt Saller they were

773
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 6: up fourteen to fifteen with four minutes ago, went to overtime,

774
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 6: they had the lead in overtime, they blew that, had

775
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 6: the lead in double overtime, bleue that. So I just

776
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 6: think this this Grizzlies team is really solid. They can't close,

777
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 6: so I think they deserve that fourth seed.

778
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: So I'm curious coming into this exercise. Before I made

779
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: up our little cribsheet with all of our net ratings

780
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 4: and everything else, Matt had one team as his last

781
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: four seed here, and I would like to know if

782
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: that is still your pick after you saw all these horrible, horrifying,

783
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: shockingly bad ratings for them, Matt, Are the Charlotte Hornets

784
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: your final four seed?

785
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: So I'm debating it now because you're right, the numbers

786
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: are compelling, for sure. Here's a good comparison. Okay, the

787
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: Hornets are thirteen and twenty three versus teams five hundred

788
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 2: and above. All right, thirteen and twenty three. Grizzlies are

789
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: fourteen and twenty two, one game better. Okay, Memphis is

790
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: twenty one and eleven versus teams under five hundred. Charlotte's

791
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: twenty and twelve, one game worse. So when record was now,

792
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 2: the argument here is going to be, Okay, look at srs, right,

793
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: SRS which factors strength the schedule versus point differential? You

794
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: know what does that look like?

795
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 6: Right?

796
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Like the Grizzlies. And that's the like. Recency bias is

797
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: tough here. The Grizzlies just waxed the Dallas Mavericks last night,

798
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: and the Hornets lost by five to the net to

799
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: the Nuggets. It's not a bad loss, but it's not

800
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: really impressive. I think here's the big thing with my aunt.

801
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: Where I'm at with Charlotte. Hayward is out of a boot.

802
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: He's just started load bearing work. There is like a

803
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: chance he makes they if they win the play in tournament,

804
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: There's a chance he makes it. With Hayward, they're twenty

805
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: four and twenty. This is like if we're gonna give

806
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: Lebron that edge, Right, I'm not saying we have to

807
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: give Gordon Hayward the same edge, but we're gonna trade

808
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers and be like, Okay, we have to consider

809
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: who they were missing. The Hornets were without LaMelo Ball

810
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: and Gordon Hayward. Remember the Hornets were the fifth seed

811
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference before Hayward and Mellow went down.

812
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: Like they were a good team and they fell off

813
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: the map because they lost their two best players. Like,

814
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: this is a team that relies on two guys and

815
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: then like a supporting cast. I've made the argument for

816
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: the Hornets because of their switching defense. I like the

817
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: way that they match up and playoff environments, et cetera,

818
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I am okay. If we want

819
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: to agree on the Grizzlies, if we just want to

820
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: like look at it because like the big key here

821
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: I think is honestly, of all the numbers, I think

822
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: the biggest key is that SRS differential. I will say this,

823
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: the Pacers are fifteenth in offense and fifteenth in defense.

824
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: They've got their eighteenth in SRS, which is only four

825
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: spots behind the Grizzlies. And the Pacers have had just

826
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: as many injury issues as well. I think you can

827
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: make a case for the Pacers too, Like the Pacers

828
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: have had a year from hell. Like I don't want

829
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: to punish the Pacers because Nate Yorken lost York and

830
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: lost the locker room, Like I don't want to punish

831
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: the team for that.

832
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: But here here's the problem with the Pacers, though, is

833
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: the injuries aren't over, Like we're still only left with

834
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 4: the corpse of the team that has struggled to make

835
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: it to the finish line. Like I would buy that

836
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: argument if it looked like you know, like Turner and

837
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: and I don't know whoever else, even Brogden, I don't know,

838
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: like that they might just be done. I just don't know.

839
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: I don't know what they have.

840
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: Let's I think I am not going to hold onto

841
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: the Hornets as much I think they I like them

842
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: as a play in team if we had that, but

843
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: we don't, I will relent and let's go ahead and

844
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: get put the Grizzlies as the final team in our tournament.

845
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: I mean, look, we're the selection committee. Should we just

846
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: make a play in game? Should we have Memphis and

847
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: Charlotte playing game?

848
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: Because we are at about forty minutes into this podcast,

849
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 2: and Matt Mitchell has things to do with his life,

850
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: like degenerately bet on Day baseball, so you know it happens,

851
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: all right, So I have a bracket. I built a

852
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: brack of all we were doing this, and here are

853
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: going to be our matchups. Okay, you guys ready for this.

854
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: I did this space off of entertainment value, not necessarily

855
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: like ranked Who went where.

856
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: The top?

857
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: The top bracket is the Jazz face the Grizzlies. In

858
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: the first round, they face the winner of Lakers Celtics

859
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: the Classic rivalry, the Classic Rivalry, and then the second

860
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: round the Jazz likely face the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 2: In the bottom bracket, on the left side, we've got

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Clipper versus the Miami Heat Kawhi Leonard

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00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: versus Jimmy Butler, Bam out of Bayo versus Avitza Zubach,

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00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: who everyone thinks is an amazing player. You've got Paul

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Speaker 2: George versus Gorn Dragis Tyler Hero that's a really fun one,

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Speaker 2: Spoulsra versus Tylu And then the bottom of that one

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00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: is the Brooklyn Nets versus the New York Knicks battle

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Speaker 2: for New York in the bottom of that side of

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Speaker 2: the bracket. On the other side, we've got the one

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00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: seed Phoenix Suns facing the Portland Trailblazers. Damian Lillard versus

901
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: Chris Paul CJ. McCollum versus Devin Booker. Let's go DeAndre

902
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: Aiden versus use of Nurkis. That's a great game. In

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00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: the one eight there and then one four rather bottom,

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Speaker 2: they faced the winner of the Bucks and Mavericks Luca

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00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: versus Jannis in that matchup. That one's gonna be Everyone's

906
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: circling that game and gonna be really driven to watch that.

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00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: That's gonna be awesome watching the Bucks try and handle

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00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: Luca and the Shooters, and the bottom the Philadelphia seventy

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00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: six Ers gets Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors.

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Speaker 2: I will be taking the Warriors in that matchup when

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00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: that goes down, I will be definitely be betting them

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00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: for the upset versus Raheem Sixers. And then the bottom

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Speaker 2: of that, the final matchup is the Denver Nuggets versus

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00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawks. Yoki has a lot of trouble with Kapella.

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00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: That's a bad matchup for them. I could realistically see

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00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: the final four being Bucks, Warriors nets Lakers, which would

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00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: be quite the four. I think as we go through here.

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Speaker 2: This is a fun exercise. This is really good.

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00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was Yeah, this was really helpful. My only

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Speaker 4: columns with the bracket is that, Matt Moore, you are

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00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 4: clearly a Lakers fan. You gave them the easiest draw

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00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 4: for the two seeds. You gave them the Celtics who

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Speaker 4: didn't even have in his bracket. You're a Lakers fan.

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00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: You're a hater. You put the Bucks and the MAVs

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Speaker 4: against each other, even though they are our favorite two

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Speaker 4: and three seeds. You're penalizing the small markets. You're a

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Speaker 4: Lakers fan.

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Speaker 2: What can I say? Everyone knows. Everyone that's ever met

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00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: me knows I'm a huge Lakers guys. That's pretty obvious.

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00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's gotta wrap up, bar Marquee. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: Brandon for putting the exercise together. I think we learned

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Speaker 2: a lot there. The real bracket was the friends that

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Speaker 2: we made along the way. All right, let's go too.

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Speaker 2: It's time to take a victory lap. I'm stupid, you're smart.

935
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 4: I was wrong, you were right.

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00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: You're the best. I'm the worst.

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00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 4: You're very good looking.

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Speaker 6: I'm not attractive, all right, as long as you're willing

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00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 6: to admit that.

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Speaker 2: So every week, I give the boys an opportunity to

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00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: take victory laps because I've never met two individuals that

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00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: enjoy talking about the best that they got right more

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00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: than these two. This is our season finale version. We

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00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: don't have time next week because we're doing playoff stuff.

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00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: So raheem, are there any that you in particular want

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00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: to give yourself a pat on the back and take

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00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: a lap over.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Celtics.

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00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously it ended with you know, Jalen Brown,

950
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: and I never want to see anybody have a season

951
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 6: in the injury.

952
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 5: But I feel like I was right about.

953
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 6: This team and in the mistakes they age made, you know,

954
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 6: really not putting this roster together properly, letting Gordon Hayward walk.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't really high on them. I just felt like

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00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 6: there just wasn't enough pieces around Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown,

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00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 6: and obviously they had some COVID issues, but I wasn't

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Speaker 6: excited about them, you know, to start the season. So

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00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give myself a pat on the back for that.

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00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 6: And then obviously I think the big one I had

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00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 6: was Jordan Clarkson, went six man of the year.

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00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 5: I had that in our piece to start the season.

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Speaker 5: So I'm real proud about that one.

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00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still kind of mad about Luca. Not like

965
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Luca not finishing. He's not even gonna finish top five.

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Speaker 2: That's easy. Luca's not gonna finish top five for m VP.

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Speaker 2: That was my preseason pick there the Jordan Clarkson pick,

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00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: but early was phenomenal. That was a that was a

969
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: really good pick. To look at the at the entire

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: board and recognize that I am calling the Anthony Melton

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00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: next year, the Anthony Meltin sixth Man of the Year

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Speaker 2: next season.

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Speaker 6: I'm right with you on that because I really like him.

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00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 6: I really like him, you know what he is. I'm

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Speaker 6: a little biased towards the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna We're gonna get a great number on him too.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be absolutely awesome.

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Speaker 5: Brandon.

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Speaker 2: Keeping in mind that were many minutes into this podcast

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Speaker 2: and we can't do this for another hour. What are

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Speaker 2: your victory laps of the season?

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00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 4: All right, So first victory lap is for brain cells

983
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 4: that Nikola Jokic is going to win the m v P.

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00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 4: It's a victory for all of us. He's been the

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00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: m VP for a months. We finally got everyone to

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00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: figure it out. Uh, My victory laps are more like

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00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: victory laps where I made a great run and I

988
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 4: was leading coming around the final turn and then stumbled

989
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 4: and fell and watched everyone else to the finish line.

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00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: So I was gonna hunger games. Some of these off

991
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: fire off the cannon for all of these victory lapp

992
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: futures bets that looked really good, much better than when

993
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: I placed them, and ended up shredded into the little pieces,

994
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: all of them worth zero dollars. So here we go.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brown preseason Most Improved Player thirty three to one.

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00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 4: Keath to missed the playoffs rip last night fourteen to one.

997
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: We had to get run though. Preseason MVP Kevin Durant

998
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: at twenty to one. That one seemed great for a while.

999
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: Mid season James Harden thirty three to one. That one

1000
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 4: got up to like a second or third favorite until

1001
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 4: he got hurt. Late season MVP Stephan Currey forty to one.

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00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: You might finish second on the ballot. Now not gonna happen.

1003
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 4: But those were great runs last but not least Joe

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00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 4: Ingles sixth Man of the Year one hundred to one.

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00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: Still hold on a little hope on that one. I'm

1006
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: seeing some of the nerds online talk about it. I

1007
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 4: think he's gonna at least get out of the ballot.

1008
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: We had a great run last one. Last victory lap

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Speaker 4: NBA Props this season. My victory lap is for justin

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00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: the fan and our incredible projections and our props tool

1011
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: for the season, and we've been a positive return and

1012
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: investment every single month on our props column through April

1013
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: two hundred and forty wins one hundred and eighty four losses.

1014
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: It's a fifty seven percent hit rate plus eighty four units.

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00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 4: That is a twenty percent return and investment one hundred

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00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 4: dollars better on every props back to this season would

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00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 4: be up eight thousand to three hundred and eighty nine dollars.

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00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: So victory lap to the props tool and the projections.

1019
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: You really should be following those.

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00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: That's absurd. That's that's that's just really good way to go, guys,

1021
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: just way to go. That's phenomenal, all right. For mine.

1022
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: Back before the season, I did my top five favorites

1023
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: win totals the Wolves under chit ching, the Chicago Bulls over.

1024
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm let's see, I got a twenty eight and a half.

1025
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: I actually need to check the number on this and

1026
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: make sure. I think there are twenty nine. I think

1027
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: there are twenty nine. They're twenty nine. That cash that's

1028
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: two Oh Warriors over thirty six and a half. King

1029
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: King's under twenty nine. I think that one is actually

1030
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: in some danger. Nope, yeah, that one is thirty one.

1031
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: So that one died. And then finally, the really bad

1032
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: one was Mavericks over forty one and a half. That

1033
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: was my worst one of the batch. I can't believe

1034
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: that the Mavericks did not hit that number. I'm really

1035
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: really mad that the maver I.

1036
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 5: Mean, they still can.

1037
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: It's forty one and a half. They got three left,

1038
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: so probably gonna hit it. I'm probably going to go

1039
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: four and one on those. The other thing is back

1040
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: in January on I'm looking at the article as of

1041
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: this exact moment. Back in January. On January twenty second,

1042
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: a month into the season, I wrote this column Nicola

1043
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: Jokic emerging was sleeper MVP value despite the nugget struggles

1044
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Denver where they were under five hundredth time and Jogic

1045
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: was plus eight hundred and you could get them at

1046
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: ten to one at DraftKings. I said, I gave that

1047
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: to you back in January at tend Wow.

1048
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just lapped all of our victory lapse. You're

1049
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: just you're just running.

1050
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 5: That's the one right there, you can see.

1051
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: The biggest thing was you could see it coming where

1052
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: everyone was like, oh, but they're not any good, and

1053
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: I was like, they lost three times with the Kings.

1054
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: Do you really think the Nuggets are going to be

1055
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: worse than the Kings this season? Is that the thing

1056
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: that we think? So that that's probably my best one

1057
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: of the season. I had a couple of others. My

1058
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 2: win totals are predictably a mess. I'm not gonna hold myself.

1059
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be I'm not under five hundred. I'm

1060
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: gonna finish about five hundred. I think units wise, I'm

1061
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: probably gonna wind up being a little under. It's just

1062
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: it was just too hard with everything, Like there's just

1063
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 2: like I think.

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00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 6: You need to be commanded for even attempting win totals

1065
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 6: this season because it's just like that's something I just

1066
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 6: had no interest in doing with the COVID stuff.

1067
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I wanted to do it because there's

1068
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 4: On Whatever is the opposite of a victory lap? I

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Speaker 4: have to go back and see. I don't remember if

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00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 4: I actually picked this, but I know I at least

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00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: strongly considered it. I'm pretty sure I had the Utah

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Speaker 4: Jazz out of the playoffs, or at least as like

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Speaker 4: my seven or eight seed. So if I get like

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Speaker 4: run a backwards victory lap the wrong direction around the track,

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Speaker 4: that's my reverse victory lap.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Brandon to wrap up here, do you

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00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: have a thanks for nothing? I do. Good teams win

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00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: and great teams cover, but some teams do neither. This

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00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: is thanks for nothing.

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Speaker 5: It's it's too night.

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00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 4: We really did, John, Gentlemen, we know how I feel

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00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 4: about my Minnesota Timberwolves. We know how I like to

1084
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: dump on my Timberwolves. Today. It's not a thanks for nothing,

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: it's a thanks for everything. It is Hall of Fame weekend.

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00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 4: My guy, Kevin Garnett is going to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Kevin gar And that is literally the reason that Minnesota

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00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: Timbrelds still exists. If it were not for Garnett, there

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00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't be a team in Minnesota anymore. There wouldn't be

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00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: basketball fans in Minnesota. We'd be all stuck watching hockey

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00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 4: up there again. Garnett gave everything to the team everything.

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00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: There's not a single fan was upset when he left.

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00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 4: Every fan rooted when he won the championship because we

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00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: all knew that the team wasn't it. We all just

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00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: wanted him to win. He loved Minnesota, loved Minnesota fans.

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 4: I think he's the greatest modern defender in history. His

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00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: numbers should be in the Minnesota Rafters Police Minnesota, get

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 4: it right. Ken Barnett is why I'm a basketball fan

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00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 4: and why I'm a basketball writer. So in a kind moment,

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00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: thanks for everything. Kevin Garnett Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 5: Well that's sweet, that's just yeah, that's just that was

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Speaker 5: real positive.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Anderson is a hater and for me, like I

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00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: have something similar to that I want to share with

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00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: with where everything has been this season, and like you

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: talk about like the things that make you love sports, right,

1107
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: like what what are the stories that really make you

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00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: love sports? And for me for doing thanks for everything,

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00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 2: I gotta say thank you. New York next for being

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00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: the best first half team in all of history. Thank

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00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: you so much. You've made me so much money. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: bless of New York Knicks first half. Thank you so much.

1113
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: Rahema's with me on this.

1114
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Speaker 4: Start spreading the news.

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Speaker 6: You have no idea, yo, I had them the last

1116
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 6: two nights, right, they were dale seven with three minutes

1117
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 6: and thirty seconds to go against.

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00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Both the LA teams and one both outright. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like.

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Speaker 5: It's just like I can't even say what I'm thinking

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the number. I got the numbers. You

1123
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: want the numbers. Here the numbers the Knicks this season

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Speaker 2: in the first half forty eight twenty and one. That's

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00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: a plus twenty six units just on the spread. That's

1126
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Speaker 2: not even moneyline, baby, which they were getting like it

1127
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: was really crazy. This is what I keep saying, these lines.

1128
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Speaker 2: They just take the full game line and they chop it.

1129
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter that the Knicks are the best

1130
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: first half team in existence. If they're a dog for

1131
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: the game, they're a dog at half. Like your edge

1132
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: there has been incredible because like, yes, the Knicks have

1133
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 2: been one of the best like ats teams this season overall,

1134
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: for sure, But the bigger thing is that you're getting

1135
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: a plus money line just for them to lead at half,

1136
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: and then when teams either figure them out or push

1137
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: past them or whatever, you've already cashed.

1138
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Speaker 1: Thank you New York Nicks for being the I'm gonna

1139
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: tell you it's gotten even crazier for me because I've

1140
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: actually been waiting until they get down five or six

1141
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: points and then.

1142
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 6: Taking the money line and then getting a bigger money line.

1143
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 6: So it's just like it's literally been like printing money.

1144
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Speaker 2: It's been absolutely incredible. All Right. That's gonna wrap it

1145
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Speaker 2: up with the Action Network Final NBA Regular Season Edition.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. We've had a lot of fun

1147
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: this season. Next week, Monday, we are doing a Twitter Spaces.

1148
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you guys this now. We are doing

1149
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: a Twitter spaces on Monday breaking down the play in

1150
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 2: tournament angles to bet all those props, all those odds.

1151
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: Check that out on the Action Network Candle at Action

1152
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: Network HQ on Monday. It's gonna be sometime towards the evening.

1153
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: We all have the exact details that will be up

1154
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Check us out on Twitter and you can

1155
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: follow that. Wednesday, we are previewing the Eastern Conference playoffs.

1156
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: We will break down the entire slate. We will look

1157
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: at series prices, win differentials, props, everything that you need

1158
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: to know to bet the NBA playoffs first round the

1159
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: Eastern Conferences on Wednesday. On Friday is the Western Conference.

1160
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Speaker 2: We're not going to know who the one eights are

1161
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: when we do the East on Wednesday, and we won't know.

1162
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: We may not know who the even the West are

1163
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: the one eight depending on what the schedule is. So well,

1164
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: have everything else but the one eights. Those are going

1165
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: to be compelling, but we'll have all that content up

1166
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: on Action Network. Make sure to follow us in the

1167
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: Action Network app. You heard about Brandon's and the prop success.

1168
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: Follow him on that app. Raheem's been killing out on

1169
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: totals this season. Follow him. I've been good on halves.

1170
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: Follow me and just pay attention to my half my

1171
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: halftime plays. Make sure to rate, review and subscribe. Give

1172
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: us those five star reviews. Check out all the shows

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00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: on the network this week, including We've Got Golf, We've

1174
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: got MLB. I'm sure that we're going to have NFL

1175
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: futures very soon. Check out the favorites. Raheem and I

1176
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: were on yesterday with Chad Milman and Simon Hunter talking

1177
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: about the Knicks and other angles. Make sure to check

1178
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: that out and we'll see you guys again next time

1179
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: on the Action Network podcast, NBA Edition.

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Speaker 3: We're finished talking