WEBVTT - SpaceX IPO Debuts; US-Iran Deal Nears

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Alexis Christophers. Here

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<v Speaker 2>are the stories we're following today, alex As, we begin

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<v Speaker 2>with the latest from the Middle East. After threatening new

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<v Speaker 2>attacks on Iran, President Trump now says he's close to

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<v Speaker 2>a deal to end the war.

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<v Speaker 3>We just made a great settlement of the war with

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<v Speaker 3>the red and we're going to be a subject to

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<v Speaker 3>finalization of documents. We should get done over the next

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<v Speaker 3>few days.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump made that announcement in an Oval Office event,

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<v Speaker 4>but just this morning, Iran's semi official news agency mayor

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<v Speaker 4>says the US and Iran are negotiating a potential agreement.

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<v Speaker 4>We get details from Bloomberg Middle East correspondent to Birabu

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<v Speaker 4>Omar in Dubai.

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<v Speaker 5>It's still unclear to us if that MoU Iran or

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<v Speaker 5>the Iranian media is reporting about is one that matches

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<v Speaker 5>what President Trump had suggested, and look, some of the

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<v Speaker 5>most important provisions there include what Iran says, a permanent

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<v Speaker 5>and immediate cessation of hostilities on all fronts, including in

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<v Speaker 5>Lebanon and Lebanon is a sticking point for Iran. Full

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<v Speaker 5>lifting of the naval blockade and the Strait of Her

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<v Speaker 5>Moves within thirty days, a commitment by the US to

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<v Speaker 5>withdraw its forces, reopening of the Strait of Her Moves,

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<v Speaker 5>suspension of sanctions on oil sales, and a lifting of

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<v Speaker 5>the blocked twenty four billion dollars of frozen assets by

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<v Speaker 5>the United States.

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<v Speaker 6>Those are Iranian frozen.

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<v Speaker 5>Assets, and an affirmation of Iran's commitment not to develop

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<v Speaker 5>nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 4>Bloomberg's Abirabo Almar reports Iron says final negotiations won't begin

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<v Speaker 4>until half of its frozen assets are released, oil sanctions

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<v Speaker 4>are suspended, and the naval blockade is lifted, and Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>We now move to the biggest initial public offering of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. SpaceX has raised seventy five billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>the IPO, pricing more than five hundred and fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>mills million shares at one hundred and thirty five dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a piece at the IPO price, elon Musk's rocket, satellite

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<v Speaker 2>and ai company as a market value of about one

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<v Speaker 2>point eight trillion dollars. Alexis o'hanian is the founder of Reddit.

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<v Speaker 6>This feels like a milestone moment.

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<v Speaker 7>This was an investment thesis that was unthinkable a decade

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<v Speaker 7>ago for most investors, and I think now people are

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<v Speaker 7>coming to grips with the fact that space technology is

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<v Speaker 7>really here. What would have been science fiction US maybe

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<v Speaker 7>ten years ago is now science fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Reddit founder Alex o'hanian there. The company will debut on

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<v Speaker 2>Nasdaq under the symbol spc X.

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<v Speaker 4>And alexis The IPOs drawn demand for more than four

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<v Speaker 4>times available shares. Elon Musk's fan base in the retail

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<v Speaker 4>trading community has placed more than one hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>in orders for the stock. Musk will control eighty four

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the voting power after the IPO. Neil Minnow

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<v Speaker 4>is vice chairman at Value Edge Advisors. Elon Musk has

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<v Speaker 4>appointed himself CEO for life.

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<v Speaker 8>He has all the voting control.

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<v Speaker 4>He has basically built a moat with alligators.

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<v Speaker 3>Around himself, and that's not good for shareholders.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a Value Edge Advisor's vice chair Now Minnow now

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<v Speaker 4>SpaceX's governance policies in sher Musk is effectively able to

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<v Speaker 4>choose board members, and that would mean only he could

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<v Speaker 4>remove himself as CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nathan Musk's personal wealth will sort of new heights

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<v Speaker 2>after this SpaceX ipo. Blas Penn's is deputy managing editor

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<v Speaker 2>for Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 9>There is a really, really real chance that he will

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<v Speaker 9>be the first trillionaire in the world in the not

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<v Speaker 9>too distance future, depending on how the stock does on

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<v Speaker 9>the market. One of the positives of this IPO was

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<v Speaker 9>the sort of intertwined, interconnected nature of Elo Musk's empire,

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<v Speaker 9>where you take when you think about X Test Law, SpaceX,

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<v Speaker 9>Borging Company, all these companies have cross ownerships, they do

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<v Speaker 9>business with each other. There's a very kind of concluded structure.

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<v Speaker 9>For some people, that's a huge bus because Elo Musk

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<v Speaker 9>sits at the center of everything, and they believe in

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<v Speaker 9>Elon Musk. They believe in his and they believe that

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<v Speaker 9>he can drive more value out of these companies.

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<v Speaker 2>S Bloomberg's deputy managing editor, Blast Pens. He says shadow

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<v Speaker 2>markets are pricing of SpaceX stock debut with a potential

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<v Speaker 2>pomp of at least thirty five percent. Turning to Washington now,

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<v Speaker 2>and President Trump is nominating j Clayton to be the

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<v Speaker 2>next Director of National Intelligence. Bloomberg's Amy Morris reports from

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<v Speaker 2>the nation's capital. Jay Clayton has been serving as the

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<v Speaker 2>top Federal prosecutor in Manhattan and was chairman of the

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<v Speaker 2>Securities in Exchange Commission during Trump's first term. The cabinet

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<v Speaker 2>position oversees and coordinates eighteen US intelligence agencies. President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Clayton's an incredible talent.

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<v Speaker 3>Head of celigant Cromwell. He was head of the secs

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<v Speaker 3>Now Southern District. I mean, nobody has better credential, but

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<v Speaker 3>Bill will run for Shure. Well, He's done a fantastic job.

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<v Speaker 8>Trump's nomination of Clayton comes hours after the House failed

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<v Speaker 8>to pass an extension of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,

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<v Speaker 8>part of pushback over Trump's selection of Bill Poulty to

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<v Speaker 8>serve best acting Director of National Intelligence in Washington anymore,

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<v Speaker 8>as Bloomberg Radio, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Amy, and back here in New York. There was

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<v Speaker 2>still a buzz in the air over the dramatic and

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<v Speaker 2>historic comeback win by the Knicks, and now fans are

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<v Speaker 2>possibly just one day away from something they haven't experienced

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<v Speaker 2>in more than half a century. Bloomberg sports reporter Randall

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<v Speaker 2>Williams has more on the Knicks quest for an NBA championship.

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<v Speaker 10>The Knicks haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy three.

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<v Speaker 10>They haven't even been back to the finals since nineteen

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<v Speaker 10>ninety nine, where they played the Spurs in that same series.

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<v Speaker 10>So this series in game four was revenge for not

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<v Speaker 10>only the Knicks themselves, but for fans. And you have

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<v Speaker 10>to think about it. James Dolan, the Knicks owner, was

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<v Speaker 10>talking a lot of smack before the game even began,

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<v Speaker 10>saying that he guarantee you to win. I wonder what

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<v Speaker 10>he was thinking when they were down twenty nine, but

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<v Speaker 10>evidently one of the most miraculous comebacks that I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 10>A truly incredible result, Randal.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an absolutely epic game and one I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say we're going to be talking about forever.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that og Annubi is absolutely cemented in Nick's history.

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<v Speaker 10>Just for the last two plays of the game, you

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<v Speaker 10>have to think about Dearon Fox. This loose ball goes

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<v Speaker 10>skirting across the floor, Dearon Fox picks it up. All

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<v Speaker 10>you have to do is dribble. The clockoffs. He goes

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<v Speaker 10>up for a layup, it's blocked by Og. The next possession,

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<v Speaker 10>Og comes down, Jalen Brunson misses a shot.

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<v Speaker 6>OG tips it.

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<v Speaker 10>In those two plays back to back, you could argue

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<v Speaker 10>are the most clutch plays for the Knicks over the

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<v Speaker 10>last fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, og an instant legend for the next Now you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear more of Bloomberg sports reporter Randa Williams on

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<v Speaker 2>the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast. New episodes drop Fridays

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<v Speaker 2>at noon. Get it wherever you download podcasts, and always

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<v Speaker 2>at Bloomberg dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one more way we can ride the Nicks euphoria,

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<v Speaker 4>because it is riding high in New York City. Alexis

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<v Speaker 4>and Bloomberg's John Tucker joins us with more on that

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<v Speaker 4>end of the story.

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<v Speaker 6>John, Good morning, Nathan. So how do you possibly top

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<v Speaker 6>Game four, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Greenest come back and ahead the playoff history?

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<v Speaker 6>How about a Game five?

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<v Speaker 11>When?

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<v Speaker 6>But that's insane? Anton. Anyway, everybody's excited. We don't quit. No, wait,

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<v Speaker 6>do that quit?

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<v Speaker 11>Come on the next Baby Nix five, Baby and the

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<v Speaker 11>guy behind the ultimate tip og and anwby.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's pretty excited.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm excited, to trust me, he's excited. And then there's

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<v Speaker 11>the knickswag. Fans have been snapping it up, whether at

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<v Speaker 11>the NBA store in Midtown or from street vendors with

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<v Speaker 11>suspect gear and this incredible ron has been a bonanza

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<v Speaker 11>for Bars. A word to the wise from Noel Donovan

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<v Speaker 11>at Bloom's Tavern on how to get in on game night.

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<v Speaker 12>My advice is get to know your local bartenders and be.

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<v Speaker 11>Friends of him well Z Bars is selling Blue and

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<v Speaker 11>Orange cookies, Tompkins Square, Begel's selling the Bruns and Bodega

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<v Speaker 11>Bengels Sandwich, Tall Poppy, and Chelsea has Nick's Cinnamon rolls,

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<v Speaker 11>Nicks Fever.

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<v Speaker 6>Catch it in New York coome John Tucker Bloomberg Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get me some Nick Cinnamon rolls. Oh sound good?

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<v Speaker 12>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, John, The Nickson out the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>red hot. The heat is on once again up and

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<v Speaker 2>down the East Coast. The extreme weather has the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>Administration declaring a power emergency for the southeast. Duke Energy

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<v Speaker 2>asked for the emergency order with temperatures set to hit

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<v Speaker 2>up to one hundred one degrees in parts of the Carolinas.

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<v Speaker 2>The order allows power plans to run at maximum output

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<v Speaker 2>and go pass some air pollution limits to meet soaring

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<v Speaker 2>AC demand. It's an effect through tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Turning to markets now, Alexis futures are moving higher as

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<v Speaker 4>details emerge about the draft US run deal. Stocks rallied

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday with all three indexes gaining at least one point

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<v Speaker 4>eight percent, and oil continues to drop on optimism the

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<v Speaker 4>war is nearing an end. West Texas Intermediate It's down

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<v Speaker 4>four point four percent trading Shive eighty four dollars a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>Brent's well below ninety now at eighty six point fifty three.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the drop of four and a quarter percent, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan shares of Adobe are down more than four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half percent here in early trading. The software company

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<v Speaker 2>is looking for new leadership. Adobe says chief financial officer

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Dern will leave the company next week. That adds

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<v Speaker 2>further executive turnover at the company after it's CEO said

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<v Speaker 2>in March he would step down once his successor had

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<v Speaker 2>been appointed. Time now for a look at some of

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<v Speaker 2>the other stories making news in New York and around

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<v Speaker 2>the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 13>Alexis hot weather, as you mentioned, will settled over New

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<v Speaker 13>York and the US Northeast through the end of the week.

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<v Speaker 13>Bloomberg Media Religius Craig Allen has the latest.

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<v Speaker 12>The eastern two thirds of the nation will have to

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<v Speaker 12>endure another day of heat and oppressive humidity. Temperatures up

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<v Speaker 12>to fifteen to twenty degrees above average means nineties and

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<v Speaker 12>a heat index over one hundred for Washington to New

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<v Speaker 12>York City into New England, just Inland from the harbor

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<v Speaker 12>around Boston, and with FIFA World Cup Games and the

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<v Speaker 12>request to take mass transit, there is concern for Amtrak

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<v Speaker 12>and commuter trains because of heat on the tracks and

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<v Speaker 12>overhead power lines. Then a few strong thunderstorms to close

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<v Speaker 12>out today, followed by a brief reduction in temperature and

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<v Speaker 12>humidity for Saturday.

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<v Speaker 6>Bloomberg Media religious Greig Allen.

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<v Speaker 13>Security will be strict this weekend when Soccer's World Cup

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<v Speaker 13>matches start in the US. John Cohn, senior expert on

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<v Speaker 13>global threats for the ARGO National Laboratory, has some advice

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<v Speaker 13>for fans heading to the events.

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<v Speaker 14>I would dramatically reduce what you carry to these events.

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<v Speaker 14>Some of these events will have no bag policy, so

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<v Speaker 14>if you show up with a purse or a bag,

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<v Speaker 14>you may not be let in with that those items.

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<v Speaker 14>Expect long lines, expect road closures.

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<v Speaker 13>John Cohne with the Argo National Laboratory spoke to ABC.

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<v Speaker 13>President Donald Trump's board at the Kennedy Center is trying

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<v Speaker 13>to keep his name on the building before a court

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<v Speaker 13>ordered deadline to remove it by today. The board voted

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<v Speaker 13>Thursday to seek a stay of a judge's ruling that

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<v Speaker 13>Donald Trump's name was illegally added. Global News twenty four

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<v Speaker 13>hours a day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 13>News Now Michael Barr and this is Bloomberg Alexis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports up,

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<v Speaker 2>and for that we bring in John stash Hour.

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<v Speaker 15>Game Foundlous Stanley Cup Final in Raleigh in Vegas scored first,

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<v Speaker 15>but Carolina scored the next four Andre Stetchikov scoring twice,

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<v Speaker 15>both on the power play. The Hurricanes beat the Golden

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<v Speaker 15>Knights four to two and lead the series three to two.

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<v Speaker 15>So history in the WNBA Indiana Beachicago with overtime at

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<v Speaker 15>Kate Laclark scored thirty two points with tennis sis, her

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<v Speaker 15>teammate of Leah Boston scored thirty four with twelve rebounds,

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<v Speaker 15>first time ever teammates with over thirty points and a

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<v Speaker 15>double double. Mexico and South Korea one in the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning on Nathan Hager.

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<v Speaker 4>Markets are building on hopes for an interim peace deal

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<v Speaker 4>between the US and Iran, hours after President Trump threatened

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<v Speaker 4>to strike Tehran for a third straight day. But now

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<v Speaker 4>the President says a deal is close and for more.

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<v Speaker 4>We're joined from Dubai by Bloomberg Middle East correspondent Abir

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<v Speaker 4>Abu almar Abir. What do we know about this potential

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<v Speaker 4>interim deal? Good morning, Good morning, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 5>So look, yes, what you mentioned about President Trump saying

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<v Speaker 5>that a deal is as imminent as this weekend in Europe.

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<v Speaker 5>It will be signed with the presidence of Vice President JD. Vance. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>the market has reacted to that news because it was

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<v Speaker 5>filled with some positive at your sense of this time

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<v Speaker 5>around is different. But perhaps the market is reacting even

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<v Speaker 5>more positively to news that emerged about forty five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 5>With Iran's semi official news agency Meyher, saying that the

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<v Speaker 5>negotiations or the potential agreement that is underway is being

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<v Speaker 5>reviewed and finalized by authorities into Ihran. So according to

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<v Speaker 5>this semi official news agency, Iran has issued a draft

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<v Speaker 5>with fourteen provisions. According to it, they're citing a person

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<v Speaker 5>that is closed to the negotiations, and those fourteen provisions

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<v Speaker 5>include some of the concessions that we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 5>over the past couple of months. That includes a permanent

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<v Speaker 5>and immediate station of hostilities on all fronts, including in Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember Lebanon was a key sticking point for Iran. That

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<v Speaker 5>also includes a full lifting of the naval blockade within

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<v Speaker 5>thirty days, a US commitment to withdraw forces from areas

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<v Speaker 5>around Tehran, the unblocking of the twenty four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 5>of frozen assets, and the lifting of oil sanctions. The

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<v Speaker 5>report goes on to say that the final agreement, which

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<v Speaker 5>focus exclusively on the fate of the highly enriched uranium,

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<v Speaker 5>something that President Trump has been calling for, and sanctions relief,

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<v Speaker 5>as well as the reconstruction of Iran economically because of

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<v Speaker 5>the damage that it has suffered due to this war.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Just very important caveat here is that this is still

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<v Speaker 5>all subject to final approvals by the negotiating team the

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<v Speaker 5>Iranian government, and we're still waiting for some official statements

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<v Speaker 5>from people that we have monitored in the past as

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<v Speaker 5>official outlets for Iran, that includes the Foreign Minister, the

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<v Speaker 5>Speaker of the Parliament, and the president himself. But for

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<v Speaker 5>now we're seemingly getting these positive sentiment filled news from

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<v Speaker 5>the Iranian side. You're seeing Brent crude price is really

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<v Speaker 5>reacting to this report that just came out about again

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<v Speaker 5>forty minutes ago, down about five percent, I believe, just

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<v Speaker 5>above eighty dollars, levels we haven't seen in a while.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of the parameters that have been laid out

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<v Speaker 4>in these semi official Iranian news reports, how do they

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<v Speaker 4>square with what we've been hearing on the US side

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of when the strait could reopen and what

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<v Speaker 4>happens with Iran's frozen assets.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So that's the other caveat right. We also don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if this statement that came out from Meher is

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<v Speaker 5>in line with the MoU that President Trump passed outed yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>So President Trump hassed out it yesterday that the MoU

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<v Speaker 5>that is underway that is imminent, according to him, will

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<v Speaker 5>address the reopening, the immediate reopening of the Strait of

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<v Speaker 5>Her Moves, and it will address Iran's nuclear program. Those

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<v Speaker 5>are the two things that he has mentioned. But according

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<v Speaker 5>to the statement that we're getting from Iran, it really

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<v Speaker 5>falls into Iran's favor because we're seeing that Iran is

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<v Speaker 5>saying that the negotiations for a final ceasefire or the

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<v Speaker 5>final deal are not going to go through until the

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<v Speaker 5>unblocking of half of the twenty four billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 5>frozen acids goes through, and so President Trump has opposed

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<v Speaker 5>that in the past. Iran Hawks and Washington have opposed

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<v Speaker 5>that in the past, adding pressure on President Trump. We're

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<v Speaker 5>also seeing the lifting of the oil sanctions, yet another

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<v Speaker 5>thing that Washington is opposed to. So this whole deal

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<v Speaker 5>seems to be playing very much into Iran's favor, and

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<v Speaker 5>that is why I added those caveats, because we're still

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<v Speaker 5>waiting to see what the US responds to this deal

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<v Speaker 5>is and whether it's in fact what they have been discussing,

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<v Speaker 5>or whether we're back to this back and forth rhetoric

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<v Speaker 5>between the warring parties. Israel Nathan, and I may add

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<v Speaker 5>is another sticking point here because Israel earlier this morning

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<v Speaker 5>said that it wasn't privy to the Molu that President

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<v Speaker 5>Trump had touted yesterday. And so Israel continues its incursion

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<v Speaker 5>in Lebanon, and so we're still getting some of that

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<v Speaker 5>conflicting or some of those conflicting statements from all parties

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<v Speaker 5>because Iran is saying all hostilities ending, including in Lebanon.

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<v Speaker 5>Israel continues its incursion in Lebanon. So we'll have to

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<v Speaker 5>wait and see if that is in fact addressed, and

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<v Speaker 5>that over the next twenty four to forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 5>and into Sunday. As you have mentioned the G seven

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<v Speaker 5>aspect there, those will be important hours for.

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<v Speaker 1>Us to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate you coming on to give us the

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<v Speaker 4>latest breaking details on this as we continue to watch

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<v Speaker 4>them emerge. That's Bloomberg Middle East correspondent Abir abu Omar

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<v Speaker 4>joining us this morning from Dubai. We want to turn

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<v Speaker 4>now to one of our other major top stories. It

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<v Speaker 4>is history Made on Wall Street. SpaceX is officially the

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<v Speaker 4>world's biggest initial public offering, raising seventy five billion dollars

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<v Speaker 4>on a one hundred and thirty five dollars a share,

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<v Speaker 4>more than a half a billion shares offered, putting Elon

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<v Speaker 4>Musk now on the verge of becoming the world's first trillionaire.

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<v Speaker 6>So many superlatives.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Ives is Global head of Tech Research at Wedbush Securities.

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<v Speaker 12>Anyone that's owning SpaceX, you're buying it for the Musk factor,

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<v Speaker 12>and maybe that bet against Tessela and Musk going back

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<v Speaker 12>a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That was I mean, that was proven historically wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I was Whdbush analyst Dan Ives for more were joined

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<v Speaker 4>by Bloomberg News senior reporter Bailey Lipschultz, and it has

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<v Speaker 4>to be said, Bailey, so much of this really is

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<v Speaker 4>driven by the retail excitement around Elon Musk. Is that

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<v Speaker 4>really what's underpinning you know, just what I was talking about,

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<v Speaker 4>so many of the superlatives surrounding this spacexipl good morning, Good.

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<v Speaker 6>Morning, Nathan. I think that's a big driver.

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<v Speaker 16>And when you talk to folks around the company, there's

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<v Speaker 16>a view of SpaceX, much like Tesla, that the retail

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<v Speaker 16>investor understands these companies better, or at least is willing

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<v Speaker 16>to give Elon Musk more credit, more grace than most

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<v Speaker 16>institutional investors. But that's not to say that this wasn't

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<v Speaker 16>a deal that was heavily heavily bid up and chased

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<v Speaker 16>by institutions. We reported that a number of firms put

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<v Speaker 16>in orders for more than ten billion dollars worth of shares.

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<v Speaker 16>We put an put out news that Blackrock indicated an

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<v Speaker 16>interest of at least five billion dollars. Number of sovereign

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<v Speaker 16>wealth funds and pension funds also seemingly trying to get

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<v Speaker 16>their hands on as much as they could.

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<v Speaker 6>So it is a retail story.

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<v Speaker 16>Retail is a big component, but when you look at

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<v Speaker 16>a deal that comes together that raises seventy five billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 16>it's hard to do that without institutional investors.

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<v Speaker 6>So certainly a mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the two.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we'd I had some reporting as well that

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<v Speaker 4>there was more interest on the retail side than there

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<v Speaker 4>were even shares available. What does that mean for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>some of these mom and pops or even some of

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<v Speaker 4>the institutional investors who who could be left out in

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<v Speaker 4>the cold after this IPO.

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<v Speaker 16>There's a lot of excitement, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 16>a big question going into the pricing and throughout this

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<v Speaker 16>entire process. Somewhere between twenty and thirty percent of the

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<v Speaker 16>shares being sold to retail investors. What does that mean

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<v Speaker 16>called fifteen to twenty billion dollars of stock is taken

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<v Speaker 16>away from institutional investors. From the company's perspective, and Elon

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<v Speaker 16>has been a long kind of vocal supporter of retail,

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<v Speaker 16>that makes sense. Get your loyal investors some shares in

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<v Speaker 16>their accounts and let them want to chase more. From

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<v Speaker 16>the institutional side, it can be kind of upsetting because

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<v Speaker 16>maybe you put in an order that was quite large

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<v Speaker 16>and you're getting, you know, one tenth one twentieth of

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<v Speaker 16>what you thought you were going to get. So when

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<v Speaker 16>you look at kind of how this deal came together,

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<v Speaker 16>I think the big question is when we do see

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<v Speaker 16>the stock open up, how much excitement is coming from

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<v Speaker 16>retail to your perspective, your point, and how much is

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<v Speaker 16>coming from institutions. Because IPOs can be quite volatile. We've

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<v Speaker 16>seen that a number of times. Where this thing opens,

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<v Speaker 16>I think is really anyone's guests. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 16>be fascinating to watch, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we expecting when it comes to these shares

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<v Speaker 4>coming to market when the market opens this morning. How

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<v Speaker 4>much volatility could we see around space AX a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of volatility.

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<v Speaker 16>I think that's a foregone conclusion just for folks who

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<v Speaker 16>have never traded an IPO.

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<v Speaker 6>It won't open at nine point thirty.

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<v Speaker 16>We'll start to probably get indications of where it could

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<v Speaker 16>open in the ten o'clock hour. This is a process

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<v Speaker 16>that is expected to take probably until one or two

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<v Speaker 16>o'clock before even the first trade takes place. So we

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<v Speaker 16>will see a number of headlines coming across the screen

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<v Speaker 16>of these indications. But the thing to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 16>that there are no shares trading at the indications. That's

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<v Speaker 16>simple where Nasdak and some of the other the bankers

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<v Speaker 16>are seeing and flashing potential demand, but you could see

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<v Speaker 16>potentially astronomical numbers that are going to make people jump

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<v Speaker 16>to foreground conclusions when it actually doesn't mean anything quite yet.

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<v Speaker 4>We heard from Dan Ives a few minutes ago saying

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<v Speaker 4>that historically, people who've bet against Elon Musk have been

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<v Speaker 4>left in the cold. We've also heard from short sellers

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<v Speaker 4>the likes of Jim Chenos saying that this IPO is

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<v Speaker 4>built on hopes and dreams. Can you sort of lay

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<v Speaker 4>out the bull and bear cases for this company?

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<v Speaker 16>Bailey boll case is quite simply, we have a colony

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<v Speaker 16>on Mars, and as Elon said in his interview with

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<v Speaker 16>Jamie Diamond, maybe there are hotels on the Moon, and

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<v Speaker 16>everyone who is using AI is likely a client in

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<v Speaker 16>some capacity from their data centers here on Earth Day

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<v Speaker 16>of the partnerships with Anthropic and Google, or using their

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<v Speaker 16>data centers that are in space, or are also using

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<v Speaker 16>Grock their own AI bot that would compete with Claude

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<v Speaker 16>and chat GPT. So the bull case is, there's a

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<v Speaker 16>lot of potential for this company.

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<v Speaker 6>There are a lot of hopes and dreams.

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<v Speaker 16>They laid out a total addressable market north of twenty

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<v Speaker 16>five trillion dollars, a lot of that driven by AI,

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<v Speaker 16>and that's the bullpitch. The barecase is it's a company

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<v Speaker 16>that is going public or sold chairs. I guess at

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<v Speaker 16>one point eight trillion dollar valuation, it's one of the

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<v Speaker 16>largest companies in the world. It does not generate a profit.

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<v Speaker 16>It lost a heck of a lot of money in

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<v Speaker 16>the first quarter. Elon Muskus says he wants compared the

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<v Speaker 16>company's ambitions to Union Pacific. Building out the railroad space

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<v Speaker 16>is very complex and if the company can't be successful

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<v Speaker 16>building out some of those ambitions.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the bullcap or bearcase. Excuse me.

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