1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800
Speaker 1: What's up everybody, and thank you for joining.

2
00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,720
Speaker 2: A special episode brought to you right on the Falcons

3
00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Podcast Network. I'm Scott Behar. That's Tory mclaney next to us.

4
00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,040
Speaker 2: Like it's like I get goosebumps just thinking by.

5
00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,200
Speaker 1: That Anderson is with us. I need no further description.

6
00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,960
Speaker 3: Right right, I feel like people know yeah, I'm.

7
00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, might have a jersey just Mike.

8
00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

9
00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,600
Speaker 2: And we're thrilled to be able to uh sit down

10
00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,080
Speaker 2: and talk to you about. Of course, there's so much

11
00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,640
Speaker 2: about the twenty fifth anniversary of the nineteen ninety eighteen

12
00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,519
Speaker 2: we kind of wanted to pull back a little bit

13
00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,159
Speaker 2: and talk about, you know, your Falcon's tenure and why

14
00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,400
Speaker 2: this city really became so drawn to you, like over

15
00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,559
Speaker 2: the time that you spent here, because it was a

16
00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,839
Speaker 2: really unique relationship between athlete.

17
00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,640
Speaker 1: And sand bag city.

18
00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and basically it happens every now and then, but

19
00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,960
Speaker 2: in the moment, it was really something special.

20
00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,479
Speaker 1: Just start with that.

21
00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,319
Speaker 2: When when you started playing really well, even before ninety

22
00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840
Speaker 2: eight you started playing really well, you started getting recognized

23
00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,160
Speaker 2: on the street and there became this buzz. What was

24
00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 2: that experience like between you and the city.

25
00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,200
Speaker 4: So, like, you know, I grew up well, I mean,

26
00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,559
Speaker 4: some people will know my background, but like my dad

27
00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,039
Speaker 4: worked for Muhammad Ali and Sugary Leonard and Mike Tyson

28
00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,560
Speaker 4: and Michael Jackson and Donna Summers and Dinah Ross, like

29
00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,080
Speaker 4: you name him, Richard Pryor, he worked for them. So

30
00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,679
Speaker 4: like I grew up in like this school like that,

31
00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,559
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

32
00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,640
Speaker 3: With like elite type of.

33
00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was ringside for some unbelievable fights

34
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,880
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, Like I kind of know

35
00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,920
Speaker 4: realized it, but now I definitely, you know, realize what

36
00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:02,760
Speaker 4: I was a part of. So like I had seen

37
00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,040
Speaker 4: and been a part of like the celebrity fan kind

38
00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,639
Speaker 4: of interaction, you know. And I was remember Muhammad Ali

39
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,400
Speaker 4: just because he was so amazing. And I used to

40
00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,240
Speaker 4: get irritated literally when we went someplace because he'd stopped

41
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,640
Speaker 4: for everybody, and I was like, dude, like really, like

42
00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,680
Speaker 4: we're trying to get through the airport and I'm just

43
00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,800
Speaker 4: like and but I taught but it did, but it

44
00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,200
Speaker 4: taught me a lot, and it taught me a lot.

45
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,200
Speaker 4: And my dad used to always be like, you know,

46
00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,079
Speaker 4: you just never know who you're gonna meet and how

47
00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,639
Speaker 4: you should be this, that and the other. So when

48
00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,200
Speaker 4: I you know my football, I mean I was. I

49
00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,880
Speaker 4: played multiple sports growing up, but then when football became

50
00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,720
Speaker 4: like the clear runaway thing that I was clearly more

51
00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,760
Speaker 4: talented than you know, my attitude like I was. I

52
00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,280
Speaker 4: always had an attitude adjustment towards a fan base anytime

53
00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,160
Speaker 4: any team I played for, you know, like my high

54
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,920
Speaker 4: school team was trash, and then all of a sudden,

55
00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,359
Speaker 4: I know we were. It was crazy now well no,

56
00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,480
Speaker 4: but I mean like we I didn't play like I

57
00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,079
Speaker 4: didn't play high school football my freshman and sophomore year,

58
00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,480
Speaker 4: so I didn't at all. I didn't play sports.

59
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,280
Speaker 1: Really, I know that about you.

60
00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,840
Speaker 4: No, I I started playing again. I played football from

61
00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,040
Speaker 4: the time I was seven until I was like thirteen,

62
00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,560
Speaker 4: and then I went to like I decided I wanted

63
00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,280
Speaker 4: to be like low key Ferris Bueller.

64
00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.

65
00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,080
Speaker 4: So I was like going through a little moment here,

66
00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,440
Speaker 4: and the first two years of high school I was

67
00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,440
Speaker 4: like this is not for me. And I remember, I

68
00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,600
Speaker 4: remember one of my coaches was like, man, all of

69
00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,280
Speaker 4: that talent you have and I was like, oh, zone

70
00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,280
Speaker 4: in and my dad was like I might have be

71
00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,360
Speaker 4: going ground you because I think you're just going crazy

72
00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 4: for me. But come over here, and I'm like, big man,

73
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,480
Speaker 4: But I got it. I got my act together. But

74
00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,400
Speaker 4: I say all of this to say that I was

75
00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,200
Speaker 4: at a tremendous appreciation for people who appreciate it what

76
00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,720
Speaker 4: I did, you know what I mean? Sure, so like

77
00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,160
Speaker 4: when that was coming up, you know, like I said

78
00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 4: in high school, when I got to Utah, I mean

79
00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,600
Speaker 4: we I was a part of our tremendous culture change there,

80
00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,280
Speaker 4: which I think originally the fan base was out there

81
00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,520
Speaker 4: were good, but it wasn't a lot of them. And

82
00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,080
Speaker 4: then you know, by the time I left, we were

83
00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,800
Speaker 4: in the top ten and we had changed with Utah

84
00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,680
Speaker 4: is totally different now, you know. So I mean I

85
00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,919
Speaker 4: just and I was like I was a guy that

86
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,920
Speaker 4: they were like, oh, hey, we're doing the woman's clinic.

87
00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 4: You want to speak absolutely? Yeah? Is there one every week? Okay?

88
00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Because I think especially at

89
00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,200
Speaker 4: that time, like you know that those were just the

90
00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,240
Speaker 4: first time those things were happening, and I saw different

91
00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,880
Speaker 4: engagement in our female fans. You know, it wasn't like

92
00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,040
Speaker 4: just basketball, this, that and the other. And I think

93
00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,839
Speaker 4: that that's one of my favorite parts about the sport

94
00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,919
Speaker 4: now is how it's so much more open to everybody.

95
00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 4: And it's not like I mean when I you know,

96
00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,240
Speaker 4: early nineties or eighties, it's like the good old boys

97
00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,440
Speaker 4: club kind of thing, you know, and it's like a

98
00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,200
Speaker 4: certain fan but all of that stuff expanded. But you know,

99
00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,320
Speaker 4: for me, it was like, you know, coming here and

100
00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320
Speaker 4: having a unique understanding of the history of the organization.

101
00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,839
Speaker 4: And then like when I finally got a chance to

102
00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,080
Speaker 4: play because I was, you know, a seventh round pick,

103
00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,359
Speaker 4: you know, it was like, hey, if he makes the team, fine,

104
00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,719
Speaker 4: if he doesn't, fine, you know.

105
00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,000
Speaker 3: What I mean.

106
00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,120
Speaker 4: It wasn't there was no expectations of me coming in

107
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,039
Speaker 4: here to do anything. I did. So when I when

108
00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,119
Speaker 4: they first saw me and then I sold the first

109
00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,960
Speaker 4: people who used to root for me to get the ball.

110
00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,400
Speaker 4: More was like the fans here, the Falcon fans, they'd

111
00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,200
Speaker 4: be like, man, you need to get why don't they

112
00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,440
Speaker 4: use you more. I'd be like email them. No, there

113
00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,480
Speaker 4: was like the first email of all time back then.

114
00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,760
Speaker 4: But I mean, like you know, I'd be like, you know,

115
00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,039
Speaker 4: they just would be so excited about what potential I

116
00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,440
Speaker 4: could bring to the table and this is before the

117
00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,440
Speaker 4: Dirty Bird, and so I was like, I don't know,

118
00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,640
Speaker 4: I always just and I think once you once you're here,

119
00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,440
Speaker 4: and again like you know when I it was, I

120
00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,000
Speaker 4: saw I was here ninety four and ninety five, and

121
00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,359
Speaker 4: even though I wasn't playing a lot, I was dressing

122
00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,080
Speaker 4: and playing. But you see the ebb and flows of

123
00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,040
Speaker 4: what's going on and the frustration when things aren't good.

124
00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,640
Speaker 4: And then you know, we started off four and two

125
00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,440
Speaker 4: in ninety four and I wasn't playing, but I was

126
00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,640
Speaker 4: on the team, and I remember like yesterday because I

127
00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,480
Speaker 4: was standing right there when Andre and Dion got into

128
00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,039
Speaker 4: it and we went like we went like down. I mean,

129
00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,520
Speaker 4: it was a couple more games and we weren't foreign

130
00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,720
Speaker 4: to anymore. Next thing, you know, it was not good.

131
00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,760
Speaker 4: And then in ninety five we went to the playoffs,

132
00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,480
Speaker 4: so you know we bounced back in ninety five, I'm

133
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,599
Speaker 4: playing more. We went to the playoffs, and then ninety

134
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,640
Speaker 4: six was just crazy, like one injury after another, the

135
00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,600
Speaker 4: whole thing, the blow up with Jeff Dree and June's

136
00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,440
Speaker 4: So I want I say all those to say, like

137
00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,039
Speaker 4: you know, the fans and like especially you like you

138
00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,400
Speaker 4: see these same faces and they're like going through this

139
00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,480
Speaker 4: anguish and it's like we could be good, but we're

140
00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520
Speaker 4: not consistently good. And we went to the playoffs and

141
00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,120
Speaker 4: then we can't we can't put two playoffs seasons in

142
00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,680
Speaker 4: a row together. So it's like you it's like it's

143
00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,760
Speaker 4: like you, you know you you you kind of are

144
00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,840
Speaker 4: on the same page with like some deep pain, and

145
00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,400
Speaker 4: so you connect more. And so when it's everything is good,

146
00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,120
Speaker 4: it's really good because you've been through some things together

147
00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,840
Speaker 4: that's really interesting, you know what I mean. Just like listen,

148
00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000
Speaker 4: and they're fans that I saw out there today that

149
00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,240
Speaker 4: I saw out on the hill in Swanny, and I'm like,

150
00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,440
Speaker 4: holy moly, you know, and they got their families and kids,

151
00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,880
Speaker 4: but like the yeah, I remember those faces and like

152
00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240
Speaker 4: they would be out there in ninety five or ninety six,

153
00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,560
Speaker 4: the hardcores, some of the dudes who were at Fulton Stadium,

154
00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,920
Speaker 4: you know when the dome opened in ninety two. It

155
00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,240
Speaker 4: was like, wow, I remember when I first went through,

156
00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,559
Speaker 4: went to that thing my rookie year. They were doing

157
00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,720
Speaker 4: like they don't probably don't even do it anymore, like

158
00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,520
Speaker 4: the luncheon or whatever, Like Rookie Dinner was like a

159
00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,840
Speaker 4: luncheon it was at the time, but it was in

160
00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,440
Speaker 4: the Dome, and I remember I didn't know. It was like,

161
00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,440
Speaker 4: first of all, I thought the Dome should be for

162
00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,960
Speaker 4: tennis right when I honestly, when I went in there,

163
00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,520
Speaker 4: I was like, man, what's wrong? I said, this is

164
00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,800
Speaker 4: like a place where they played the US Open. Man

165
00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,200
Speaker 4: And then then you remember then it was like orange

166
00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,320
Speaker 4: and green. They was like, we don't care if you

167
00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,120
Speaker 4: play here, Falcons or not to.

168
00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,079
Speaker 3: Georgia Dome two years before the Olympics, right, yeah, at

169
00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,760
Speaker 3: that point.

170
00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, which is a whole nother story. I would

171
00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,800
Speaker 4: tell you that, but yes, I remember I was saying

172
00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,360
Speaker 4: about that ninety four luncheons, all the fans that were there,

173
00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,520
Speaker 4: and they were just so excited. And then you know,

174
00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,200
Speaker 4: if things didn't go well, you just then you see

175
00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,040
Speaker 4: the same people next year, and I was like, wow,

176
00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,720
Speaker 4: they got some like you see the old g Harcore

177
00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,120
Speaker 4: people and they it's a supportive presence that's comforting, and

178
00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,760
Speaker 4: then you know they kind of like upset with you too,

179
00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,160
Speaker 4: but they still are out there behind, you know what

180
00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,400
Speaker 4: I mean. And that's where for me. We were talking

181
00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,880
Speaker 4: about it on the podcast down there. It was like

182
00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,680
Speaker 4: where I came up with the whole idea of the

183
00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,240
Speaker 4: dirty border. Even us doing a celebration was about the fans,

184
00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,440
Speaker 4: and I was like, man, we already have history here,

185
00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,360
Speaker 4: like this is the home of Billy Wishes Johnson in

186
00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:37,640
Speaker 4: Primetime two noted dance performers, not outstanding players, but they

187
00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,520
Speaker 4: were entertainers.

188
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

189
00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,240
Speaker 4: Personality, Yeah, that's that's entertained. Yeah, that's why I said.

190
00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,640
Speaker 4: And so for me, I was like, oh, it makes

191
00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,400
Speaker 4: so much sense. We already have a history of celebrating.

192
00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Now. I actually want to

193
00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,440
Speaker 3: go to Draft Night nineteen ninety four, which is really

194
00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,280
Speaker 3: you talk about, you know, being a seventh round pick

195
00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,800
Speaker 3: out of Utah and maybe the outside perspective of people

196
00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,079
Speaker 3: not having expectations for you. But in that moment when

197
00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,040
Speaker 3: when you know you're coming to Atlanta, you're going to

198
00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,479
Speaker 3: be a Falcon, what expectations did you have for yourself?

199
00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,600
Speaker 4: Well? I didn't talk to I did not talk to

200
00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,200
Speaker 4: anybody from the Falcons like like not that. I don't

201
00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,360
Speaker 4: remember speaking to any like the running back anything like that. No,

202
00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,480
Speaker 4: they had a scout that came and I know that

203
00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,000
Speaker 4: I saw him a couple of times and you kind

204
00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,840
Speaker 4: of you know right then, you know, Utah, we were

205
00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,800
Speaker 4: just coming up really and just doing back to back

206
00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,719
Speaker 4: Bowl games. So now more scouts are coming because the

207
00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,720
Speaker 4: players are better too, so our prominence is rising. But

208
00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,280
Speaker 4: I don't remember specifically seeing like like, but I remember

209
00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120
Speaker 4: the Falcon scout really loved me, and he was like, oh,

210
00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,040
Speaker 4: they don't know, they don't know because everybody wasn't necessarily

211
00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,600
Speaker 4: catching all the games or whatever. So I remember there

212
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,040
Speaker 4: was a lot of conversation and went back for combine

213
00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760
Speaker 4: rechecks and they were like, oh, he could go anywhere

214
00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,520
Speaker 4: from two to four. And we thought Kansas City was

215
00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,720
Speaker 4: gonna take me, and they took Donald Bennett, so I

216
00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,560
Speaker 4: thought I was gonna go in the second round. So

217
00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,800
Speaker 4: imagine this. So when the Falcons called me, I was.

218
00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,480
Speaker 3: Like what what what do you mean?

219
00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm a I'm a nerd and a football fan, Like,

220
00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,000
Speaker 4: I was like, well, Jesse Tuggle's there and Andre right there,

221
00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,959
Speaker 4: and I was like who else is there?

222
00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

223
00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,480
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. I was like, start going

224
00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,080
Speaker 4: through the list and then yeah, it was crazy. And

225
00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,880
Speaker 4: when I when I got here, Ollie Wilson was a

226
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,600
Speaker 4: running back coach at the time, and I remember coming

227
00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,760
Speaker 4: in and it was like I wanted to be early

228
00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,800
Speaker 4: and I was like one of our first meetings. So

229
00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,280
Speaker 4: I walked into the running back.

230
00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,680
Speaker 1: Room so glad to tell the story. I think, I

231
00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,800
Speaker 1: know where you're going. I'm very sad, Ye tell the

232
00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,439
Speaker 1: people the story.

233
00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I walked into the running back room and

234
00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,320
Speaker 4: I'm looking and I look on the whiteboard and like

235
00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,000
Speaker 4: there's all these names and I'm like Anderson at the bottom.

236
00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,320
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh hell no. It was like

237
00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,920
Speaker 4: six or seven running backs and I'm at the bottom

238
00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,719
Speaker 4: of the list. And I was like, oh, hell no,

239
00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,160
Speaker 4: this guy's crazy. You don't know who I am. I

240
00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,200
Speaker 4: went to the whiteboard and grabbed a marker and drew

241
00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,880
Speaker 4: an arrow to the top from my name to the top,

242
00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760
Speaker 4: and he came. So I like a couple of minutes later,

243
00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,720
Speaker 4: Oli Wolfson comes and I'm sitting there like he's like,

244
00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,160
Speaker 4: he's like, what is that I said? I planned? I

245
00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,640
Speaker 4: planned to play. He's like, no, blockhead, that was the

246
00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,600
Speaker 4: order in which you're a rookie. You're the youngest. I

247
00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,040
Speaker 4: was like, it's like it wasn't the depth chart.

248
00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,920
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

249
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I came in and saw my name

250
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,720
Speaker 4: at the bottom. I was like, man, no, I was like, nah,

251
00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,360
Speaker 4: you got you got the wrong one.

252
00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

253
00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,080
Speaker 4: I was having a tough I was having a I

254
00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,640
Speaker 4: was having a you know, when you're a seventh round

255
00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,880
Speaker 4: pick and you know we're running to run and shoot,

256
00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,720
Speaker 4: there's not there's one running back. You know, there's not

257
00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,400
Speaker 4: a there's not a lot of two back formations. Then

258
00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,199
Speaker 4: so the you know, Eric Piegrim was the guy when

259
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,480
Speaker 4: I got here. Tony Smith was already here. He was

260
00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520
Speaker 4: a first round pick. Who's who's a I mean, he's

261
00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,920
Speaker 4: a specimen. And then we brought an Ironhead and who

262
00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,320
Speaker 4: and you know iron Head was my mentor, loved loved him.

263
00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,640
Speaker 4: But it was like, no, there was not time for

264
00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,040
Speaker 4: me to get plays, you know, so I had to

265
00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400
Speaker 4: do and I was frustrated by that. And I wasn't

266
00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:38,600
Speaker 4: getting wraps. And they're like good on special teams. I'm like, yeah,

267
00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,559
Speaker 4: like I don't play special teams. But you got to

268
00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,920
Speaker 4: do what you got to do to make the team.

269
00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,920
Speaker 4: I mean I had to play special teams. I had

270
00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,640
Speaker 4: to be a return you known, you know, I was

271
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360
Speaker 4: a kick returner. I did not two hundred and forty

272
00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040
Speaker 4: five pounds. I was back there with Metcalf.

273
00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,559
Speaker 1: That sounds like like the up back.

274
00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,960
Speaker 4: No, I mean I was basically security. Literally, I was

275
00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,440
Speaker 4: his bodyguard. But I could I caught the ball and

276
00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,439
Speaker 4: I remember, well, I think was playing we played Arizona.

277
00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,200
Speaker 4: I had like two hundred yards in returns one game. Really,

278
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 4: but I was I keep kicking it to me. I

279
00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,800
Speaker 4: mean what they twenty twenty yards downhill? Who was stopping me?

280
00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760
Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna get to the thirty? Yeah, you know

281
00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,720
Speaker 4: what I mean. I was like, I don't know why

282
00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,120
Speaker 4: you're surprised. I'm averaging twenty seven yards of a kick.

283
00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:20,240
Speaker 4: All I do is.

284
00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,200
Speaker 3: Man, Well, it goes to kind of something that I

285
00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,360
Speaker 3: know we've talked about before, but how a part of

286
00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,920
Speaker 3: your game. You know, people always talk about, you know,

287
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,240
Speaker 3: you're running front people and everything like that, but what

288
00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,640
Speaker 3: you were able to do as.

289
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,560
Speaker 1: A receiver as well?

290
00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of being an all around back.

291
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. So you know what's crazy what a lot of

292
00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,920
Speaker 4: people don't know. I was talking about June, who did

293
00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,960
Speaker 4: draft me, and he recognized immediately that I had good hands,

294
00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,400
Speaker 4: and he had already said, oh, I've been watching some film,

295
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,640
Speaker 4: and I didn't have a bunch of catches at Utah,

296
00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,040
Speaker 4: but I had some, uh some catches in very tough

297
00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,600
Speaker 4: situations where I came down like in the back of

298
00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,600
Speaker 4: the end zone and diving out when one am oh.

299
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,480
Speaker 4: So I was like I used to think I was.

300
00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I warmed up with the receivers used you

301
00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,000
Speaker 4: couldn't tell me. I wasn't Terrence and Tony and I

302
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,160
Speaker 4: wasn't trying to drop balls. So one once I got

303
00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,520
Speaker 4: in and I was like, we kind of realized I

304
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,720
Speaker 4: was going to play more. I remember the spring of

305
00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,720
Speaker 4: ninety six, we had passing camp for a month, so

306
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,200
Speaker 4: we'd come back here like May June was like, oh,

307
00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,600
Speaker 4: this passing camp, you're gonna work with the slots. I

308
00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,760
Speaker 4: didn't even do running back reps, right, and I was

309
00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,400
Speaker 4: like okay, and so all you know, I'm out there

310
00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,040
Speaker 4: with Metcalf and all of those guys, and I learned

311
00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,760
Speaker 4: all of the routes. In that year, I think I

312
00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,280
Speaker 4: had like fifty seven catches or whatever, and I didn't

313
00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,400
Speaker 4: even play. I didn't start until the seventh game in

314
00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,000
Speaker 4: ninety six. But he was preparing me in the off

315
00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,160
Speaker 4: season and he was like I'm gonna move you all

316
00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,800
Speaker 4: over the place. That's the only reason why I tell people, Man,

317
00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440
Speaker 4: I would have been Edgin James and that offense, right.

318
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,400
Speaker 1: Like how to continue to gain?

319
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,560
Speaker 2: Because the stat that I pouring over stats season, but

320
00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 2: the one I can't fathom whatsoever. And we're gonna talk

321
00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,920
Speaker 2: about like in nineteen ninety eight. I'm sure I don't

322
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,480
Speaker 2: know if you guys talked about this the other day.

323
00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,360
Speaker 1: Four hundred and thirty seven touches?

324
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:11,720
Speaker 3: Right?

325
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

326
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,160
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

327
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not a number that computes to people

328
00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,760
Speaker 2: who have watched.

329
00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,720
Speaker 1: Well the game. Yeah, not in the modern not like

330
00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,560
Speaker 1: the question is what one? Wow?

331
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:26,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

332
00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,360
Speaker 2: And two you're going through ninety eight, you're you're a

333
00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360
Speaker 2: list not only in Atlanta, but you're a national figure.

334
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,880
Speaker 2: But you're also having to get your body through four

335
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,920
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven touches. And by the way, that's

336
00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,360
Speaker 2: just in the regular season.

337
00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,440
Speaker 1: Right, talking about three games? Ye for that right, so

338
00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,160
Speaker 1: we're probably talking five hundred. How do you everything's going

339
00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,440
Speaker 1: on around you?

340
00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,600
Speaker 2: You're blowing up, right, But there's probably another side of it.

341
00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 2: You're like you just got to keep you know, it's crazy.

342
00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,320
Speaker 4: So Tim Dwight is here this weekend, right man. So

343
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,920
Speaker 4: when he came in, he came in with like a

344
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760
Speaker 4: staff of people like Tim Dwight was one of the

345
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,280
Speaker 4: first athletes to have like his own like nutritionists, Like

346
00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,880
Speaker 4: he had his own massage guy. And he was like,

347
00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,920
Speaker 4: you don't do massages, Jam, you don't do massages every week.

348
00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,639
Speaker 4: I was like, what massages every week? Huh? You know.

349
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,959
Speaker 4: Now they have all this stuff, you know, for the players,

350
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,520
Speaker 4: which is great.

351
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:18,760
Speaker 3: It's like, no, I'm just showing up.

352
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,199
Speaker 4: Well, literally, I was working out and showing up and

353
00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,080
Speaker 4: trying to you know, eat, ride, this, that and the other.

354
00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,800
Speaker 4: But I started doing weekly massages. I literally started doing

355
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,919
Speaker 4: I mean I was doing. I don't It's not like

356
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,440
Speaker 4: I knew I was going to have that many carries.

357
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,280
Speaker 4: But the second half of ninety seven, the way the

358
00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,919
Speaker 4: offense was running, when I got healthy, when we started

359
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,679
Speaker 4: rolling like I could we could all see where we

360
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,199
Speaker 4: were going, you know what I mean. And so like

361
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,280
Speaker 4: the last game of the year in ninety seven, I

362
00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,800
Speaker 4: think I had like thirty three carries. It was one

363
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,640
Speaker 4: of the most physical games ever. Arizona's defense was loaded

364
00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 4: with very talented players on every level and but I

365
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,480
Speaker 4: was like preparing myself already, so everything that I was

366
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,560
Speaker 4: doing in the off season, and then everything that I

367
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,560
Speaker 4: did leading up to that season, and then how focused

368
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,760
Speaker 4: I was on Like I took time to take care

369
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,399
Speaker 4: of my body, really I did. And I was like

370
00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,320
Speaker 4: it was such a big part of it because we

371
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,679
Speaker 4: were absolutely crazy. We have fun in the city. We

372
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,880
Speaker 4: turned up in Ala, we turned up in Atlanta.

373
00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.

374
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760
Speaker 4: You know, I think that people that's that was one

375
00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,359
Speaker 4: thing for I think another thing for fans is that

376
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,040
Speaker 4: they saw us and we were out and we were

377
00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,880
Speaker 4: not untouchable.

378
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,240
Speaker 2: You know.

379
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,880
Speaker 1: Interesting, that's a really good word. Yeah, not untouchable. Yeah, yeah,

380
00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,639
Speaker 1: that it was in ninety eight.

381
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,640
Speaker 2: Especially you've got these you know, you and Ray Buchanan

382
00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 2: and some of the stars of the team.

383
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,200
Speaker 1: They're larger than life, right, but they're also like right next.

384
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 4: To you all right, right, like Chuck Smith and Bob

385
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 4: or whatever, like you know, and Terrence. I thought it

386
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 4: was dope today, like when we were when we were

387
00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,440
Speaker 4: out there at practice today and I said, think aj

388
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,760
Speaker 4: Trail was like the first one over there, And I

389
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 4: was like, see that's some Jamal stuff, you know what

390
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,879
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, you know, the people are hot. The

391
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 4: fans have been out here, they're sweating. Like I'm not

392
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 4: I'm miserable fans, I'm hot. I'm yeah. But I mean, like,

393
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,239
Speaker 4: you know, you see people and it's like go up

394
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,120
Speaker 4: the hill and you know, you try to hang out

395
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 4: and talk and take pictures with as many people because

396
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,879
Speaker 4: they've taken the time, you know, they they took the

397
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 4: time today to be like, I'm gonna spend my day

398
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 4: with these guys, you know what I mean, Like I'm

399
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,360
Speaker 4: gonna come out here. You could be anywhere else, man,

400
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 4: but you're out here supporting, You're out here on the hill.

401
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 4: It's not you know, it's nice. It's nice out here now,

402
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,439
Speaker 4: but I mean it's still you know, you're taking the

403
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 4: time to come out here, and I feel like, you know,

404
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 4: at least the least we could do is make a

405
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 4: couple people smile and you know what I mean, and

406
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 4: just say what's up and do a dance or two.

407
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 3: Definitely doing some dance. And now I think just to

408
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 3: kind of like wrap everything up, you know, we obviously

409
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 3: the whole the whole thing about the celebration of twenty

410
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 3: five years since that nineteen ninety eight team, but as

411
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,719
Speaker 3: you kind of looked back on your career and you

412
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 3: know you're surrounded by by.

413
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:15,120
Speaker 4: The way, I'm a clone. There's no way I could

414
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 4: have played twenty five years ago.

415
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 3: Definitely not, definitely not the skin is glowing. No, but really,

416
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 3: you know you're around, You're back around the Falcons this weekend,

417
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 3: and back around some guys from that team. As you're

418
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 3: kind of sitting here reminiscing about it, what about that

419
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: ninety eight team was so special? And why was it

420
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 3: a part of your career that maybe you know you'll

421
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: take take with you forever.

422
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 4: No, no question about it. But you know it's crazy

423
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 4: if you're if you see us, like if you were

424
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: around or saw us this weekend, you can tell how

425
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 4: close we are. Yeah, if you see anything or any interaction,

426
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 4: that's just how the team was. So like you know,

427
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 4: Friday nights, the whole offense will get together. Then we

428
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 4: had nights where we went to dinner with defensive guys.

429
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 4: We had certain events that we went to. Everybody made

430
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 4: a point of Like if somebody was doing a chariot event,

431
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: everybody was there to support it, Like somebody was if

432
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 4: you didn't show up for whatever reason, there was like, yeah, man,

433
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 4: because it was like this is what it was, and everybody,

434
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 4: you know, we were just talking about it in there

435
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 4: when we were shooting that special in there. It was

436
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 4: just how unselfish everybody was. And I talk about the

437
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: the NFC Championship in particular because statistically it wasn't even

438
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 4: close to my best game, but it was my best

439
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 4: game blocking. And guess what that meant that Chris Chandler

440
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 4: had time that I picked off people where maybe somebody

441
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: was coming free. I mean I had like three or

442
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,239
Speaker 4: four blocks in that game now where I was like,

443
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of them. I'm like, no, damn running.

444
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 4: I mean, because we had to do what we had

445
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 4: to do. I was not so concerned with like I

446
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 4: need to be the guy, you know what I mean.

447
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 4: And I picked up eight passes in that game too.

448
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 4: I don't think I've caught eight passes, you know, really though,

449
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: So I'm saying it was one of those things where

450
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,199
Speaker 4: it's like, all right, you know, if Terrence, you know,

451
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 4: if I'm running, running, running, do all of a sudden,

452
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: here come Terrence. You know what I mean? I was.

453
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't like I ran was down to the N zone.

454
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 4: Let me have it now, Terrence on it. No, I

455
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 4: would just be the biggest joke though, because if he

456
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: had a big play, there was all there was always

457
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: inside joking offense. If they had a big play and

458
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 4: they were inside to ten, I would be like, you

459
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 4: better dive because if you get knocked out of bounds

460
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: inside to ten, I'm first crack and here's a strong

461
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: possibility on the second crack too, and we're inside to five,

462
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm getting all three.

463
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

464
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 4: So we always used to laugh about that. But you

465
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 4: know what was so special about that team was not

466
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: just the bond of the team. We had exceptional performance

467
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 4: from multiple players on multiple levels. And in order to

468
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: be that good, I mean, Chuck Smith was a monster. Yeah, okay,

469
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 4: so dominant Lester Archhambow, double digit sack, Travis Hall, Shane Urnett,

470
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: I mean the bomb squad. They came to play. Our

471
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 4: backups on the defensive line that were so competitive it

472
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 4: just made the whole group like that. And then you

473
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: look at come on, our linebackers are Jesse dugall and

474
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 4: you know Cornelia has been at Keith Brooking was a rookie,

475
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 4: but he was a dog when he came in. And

476
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: then in the secondary. You got Ray and Ronnie, you

477
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,719
Speaker 4: got Eugene Robinson and William White. It's like, man, we

478
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: had our defense led the league in sacks, we led

479
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: the league in turnovers, we led the league in interceptions. Folks,

480
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: I was good, but I wasn't the only one. I

481
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: mean trying to remind people. I'm like, yeah, man, our

482
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: offensive line was bawling, and Terrence and Tony averaged seventeen

483
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 4: yards of catch, which is insane, you know. So just

484
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: the team, the team, the team. It was a tremendous team.

485
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was a tremendous team. It was a

486
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: tremendous this moment in time. Yeah, for this city that

487
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: I think in this organization and the organization so many people,

488
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: this meant so much. And I think that's a great

489
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: way to kind of wrap this up, is that, Yeah,

490
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: like you were the face of a lot of what

491
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: was happening as you guys became nationally prominent, but.

492
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: It was it was the collective that made this work.

493
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: Yes, no question, Jamal, You've done so many interviews over

494
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours.

495
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: We honestly appreciate you stick around for one more.

496
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: This was such an awesome Podcastlesure so much, ment my pleasure,

497
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: and stay tuned for more great guest stars of the

498
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight team coming up. Please rate, review, subscribe

499
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: to the to the Atlanta Falcons podcast Network. Thank you,

500
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jamal, and see you