WEBVTT - John Wick with Vanessa Guerrero 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:03.920 On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.920 women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.080 or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zefan best start 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:18.439 changing it with the Beckdel cast. Hey, Jamie, Hey Caitlin, 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:23.000 that is a really cool car, and that's a really 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.520 cute dog. I just wanted you to know what, hay, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:33.280 if something happened to them. Alfie Allen should have said that. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.680 I would have liked his character so much better if 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:41.120 he if he had just really late it on thick 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:47.120 like that. God, I can it's so wild that, um, well, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.200 welcome to the Bechdel Cast. But just a second. It's 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.920 so wild that, like Alfie Allen, is I know a 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.320 person that exists in the world. I watched Game of 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.440 threnth and everything, but I confuse him with my crush 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.720 Bill scars Guards so easily only to look up the future, yes, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.840 only to look at future John Wicks, and who is 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.000 there but Bill scars Guard. I think he's going to 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.240 be in the next one. Yeah, wait, okay in the 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:11.920 fourth one. I was like, I didn't see him in 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.040 two or three? They missed the vibe of the bug 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.440 eyed boy they gotta bring it back, they gotta bring 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.360 it back. Oh well, well, this is the Bectel Cast. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.680 My name is Jamie Laftus. My name is Caitlin Durante, 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.559 and this is our show where we examine movies through 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:31.440 an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechtel test simply as 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:35.640 a jumping off point. But Jamie, what is it? Well, 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:39.000 I can let you know, Caitlin Durante. The Bechtel test 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:45.600 is a media metric created whoa Hello created? What if 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.080 they did? Ah? This is here's a horrible pitch for 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:55.200 our April Fools episode Baby Talk Pass. It is hey 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:00.520 media metric created by Ker cartoonist Alice Becktel, sometimes called 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.600 the Bactel Wallace Test. Lots of different versions of this test, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.040 Here's the one we use. The test requires that there'll 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:12.320 be two characters of a marginalized gender with names speaking 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.160 about something other than a man for more than two 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.040 lines of dialogue should be meaningful. Does it happen in 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:24.400 this movie? I'm brady sure, But that's why a franchise exists. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.760 So that is that's why every movie needs at least 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.160 three movies, so that by the third movie women might 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.519 talk to each other. Yeah, you need three movies. Yeah, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.040 and I'm not even sure if it happens by the 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.119 end of the third John Wick movie. Oh, I think 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.920 they all talk, but not to each other. Oh that 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.720 is always so bizarre and dissonan when they're like, we 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.799 got two women in a room. They're never gonna know that. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.080 But yes, in honor of the new John Wick, the 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.160 Bill Scars Guard John Wick, if you will, we're covering 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.080 John Wick one twenty fourteen. I didn't realize it came 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.560 out so long ago. It's almost ten years ago. Oh yeah, 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.600 it's been a while. I'm also referring to four not 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.359 as The Bill Scars Guard one but the Arena Sawayama one. Yes, yes, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.760 that is truly. What's gonna get my ass in the 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.000 seat is her? It's her acting debut, right, yes it is. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.360 It's her acting debut, and it's going to be in 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.839 this major franchise. And also one of my all time 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.280 favorite action stars is in. It's Scott Atkins, so I'm 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.079 like losing my ship. He's the king of the home 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.079 movie box office when it comes to action movies. He's 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.280 constantly punching above his weight, and in this one, I 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.640 fear he might be in a fat suit, but we'll see. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.040 I'm not sure I can tell from the posters. When 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:45.640 will they not do that? I am? I am very 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.880 thrilled about the arena Sawayama element to the four and 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.240 I just pray that she is a pop girlie who 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.760 can hoo can act? I hope we're getting We're getting 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:02.400 a Lady Gaga situation. Yeah, time will tell. I can't wait. Um, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.880 but wait, who the hell is that talking? Is that 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.320 perhaps one of our all time guests? It's just it's 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.360 just our guest who is a host? It is not 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.080 my best transition into introducing a guest of all time, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.839 but wait, what the fuck? No? I thought it was 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.600 really good. Who is the other arena stand in the chat? 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.880 She's host of the podcast Popcorn and Pixels. You've seen 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.320 her on Shutters, Behind the Monsters, and you remember her 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.240 from our episodes on Maide in Manhattan, Raw, Atomic Blonde, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.279 and Bound. So this is her fifth apparent on the show. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.159 It's Vanessa Guerrero. Thank you so much for having me on. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:50.000 I love doing the show. In the mail the five 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:54.600 timers jacket that doesn't actually gist, but someday, someday it 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.680 will be. It's a picture of the two of y'all 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.800 doing a thumbs up, and it's embroidered and it's the 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.200 or exactly and you give it to someone when things 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.400 are getting serious. Yeah, it's a letter in jacket. Yeah, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.760 we're so happy that you're back. And I feel like, 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.120 over time you sort of become our our go to 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:18.160 action movie expert. I love that, especially because one of 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.520 my favorite things in the universe is constantly showing up 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.880 men at things that they enjoy and like it's a 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.760 beautiful thing. I love being an action movie person and 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.599 knowing that there are several men that are like, I 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:36.320 wish it was me. Oh, that does sound very powerful. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.880 It's a delicious feeling. That's I wish. I don't think 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.560 I can do that. I think that I'm just like 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.279 I think. I'm like, hey, guy, i'm dating, do you 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.280 want to know everything about beanie babies? And usually he's 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:54.680 like no, and he doesn't wish. Yeah, Well, the thing 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.320 is he doesn't wish it was him, and maybe he 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:02.000 doesn't even wish that he was in the room. Well 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:07.760 screw him. Then, yes, this person I just made up Vassa. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:12.320 What is your relationship with John Wick the franchise, etc. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.440 I love the john Wick franchise as an action fan. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.560 The john Wick franchise is so indicative of like such 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.200 a major turning point for the genre because specifically like 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:29.799 American action, like Korea, Indonesia, Japan, China, they'd been they'd 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.680 been putting out action movies that had been like consistently 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.680 fantastic for years. American action had taken such a downturn, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.040 especially because of the movies like later Jason Bourne movies 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:43.200 and Taken, where it's a lot of like frenetic editing 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.080 and like twenty one cuts to get an old man 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:51.839 over offense, like very jumpy, very like that two thousand 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:57.080 style of like shaky cam footage, And there wasn't as 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.320 much like focus when it came to like choreography fee 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.080 and really like not even just getting like great choreography 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.240 and it nailed down, but like how we shoot choreography 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.359 and really doing it the justice that it deserves. And 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:13.120 John Wick when that movie came out was such a 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.920 renaissance for American action fans where you started seeing people 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.560 care about how they shot action again. And I love 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.560 that the franchise has also become very self aware and 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.160 knows sort of where it stands and like American action history, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.080 which is why the casting announcements are more exciting for 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.760 me than it feels like what I imagine, like a 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.760 football draft feels like to someone where I'm just like, yeah, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.480 we got another one. Yeah. I feel about succession casting 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:46.840 announcements when exactly when they're like Adrian Brodie, you're like 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.720 what they're like sona late, like what or like White 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.640 Lotus where it's just like, oh my god, that lineup. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.000 That's how I feel about the john Wick series. Yes, Also, yeah, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:00.400 it taps into a very petty core of me. At 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.240 while I've done so much, like work in therapy and 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.080 improvement to be somebody that can like move on from grudges, 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.560 john Wick taps into the part of me that which 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.760 is I can do undo all of that hard work 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.280 and just be a petty bitch on the trail for revenge. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.120 I do love a revenge narrative, so I love it. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:25.440 Jamie whats Beagles. That's my history. Now, my history with 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.680 the john Wick franchise is very minimal. As I think 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.080 I've said on this show time and time again, Action 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.760 has never really been my go to genre, even though 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.440 Keanu Reeves. I would say it's one of my go 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:40.600 to people that I like to look at and engage 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.400 with the legacy of. Oh yeah. Something I've been saying 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.040 on the show for the entire run of the show 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.160 is that I used to see Keanu Reeves every Wednesday 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.360 at the bookstore I worked at, and he'd always get 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.880 a book of Sudoku puzzles and one of the new 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.080 hardcover fictions. Always hardcover, not softcover for this guy. He's 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.160 a Millionaire's gonna want the hardcover exactly, come on his 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:06.280 motorcycle and changed my life. He's a good man by 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.360 all accounts. He's the most attracted that I've ever been 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:15.800 to a sismail in my life. It's he's kind of scary. Yeah, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.520 I love Keanu Reeves. Action movies are a harder sell. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.520 I did remember as I was preparing for this. I 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.160 mean how much I loved Atomic Blonde, and there are 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.640 things about John Wick that I did like, even outside 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.080 of Keyanu Reeves. I liked. I really liked learning about 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.440 how this movie came together and how it's like these 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:37.000 legacy stuntman who worked with Keyanda Reeves that ended up 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.920 like directing this incredible. I mean it looks beautiful and 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.880 like as an action movie. Even as someone that doesn't 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.560 know a ton about action movies, You're like, yeah, this 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.240 is a beautiful action movie. This is like fucking wild. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.440 It's all that bisexual lighting. Yeah, this, I feel like 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.240 this is like kind of the great stand. I can't 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.719 think of a more bisexually lit movie. This may be 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.839 the Golden standard or the Blue and Purple standard, whatever 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:06.080 we're calling them. Yeah, that entire bathhouse scene could have 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:11.240 been like a low five beats yes, yes, exactly. And 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.920 then I mean, you know, watching it with a Bechtel 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:19.440 cast lens on, I'll admit it was a challenge. But 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.200 I yeah, I've only seen so I've only seen the 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.200 first movie. I watched the first movie to prepare for 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.720 this episode, and I'm definitely going to see the fourth 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:31.559 for Rina Sawayama purposes, and I look forward to being 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:35.040 sold on watching the two sequels before then. The third 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.520 is definitely the better of the two. Okay, my first, 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.319 the first bitchy little thing I am going to say 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.880 about John Wick and everyone's could getting upset and scream 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:48.200 boo tomato tomato open opening this movie on Deadwife dot 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.800 MP four. I was struggling yea and ending the movie 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.679 also on Deadwife dot MP four. I gotta say once 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:58.920 again I was struggling. But every time I see Deadwife 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.440 dot MP four, I could do that. So if anyone's 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.240 trying to look for a dead wife, I feel like 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.400 I can conjure that energy quite easily. Beach breeze in 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:12.280 your hair, John, what are you doing? I was confused 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.400 what you meant at first? You mean, if someone's looking 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.000 to cast a role in a movie where they need 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.960 a character's wife who is now deceased, you're available to 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.200 play that part. Yeah, I understand. I feel like I 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.320 act like a dead wife every single day. I think 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.720 anytime there's like a if a boyfriend has a phone 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.439 and it's on and it's at me, I'm going to 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.720 act like a dead wife because you never know what 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.640 do you do? What are you doing? Stop? I've romanticized 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.600 white life like a dead wife. Oh Like, I wear 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.040 a lot of like ponchos around the house and I 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.120 hold lugs with two hands. You're like kind of like 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.400 do a lot of hair work. You're like sort of 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.559 playfully just like kind of rolling around under the sheets 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.280 like t he he Yeah, it's morning, and I never 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.319 I never sweat. I would never sweat in that circumstance. Yeah, 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.720 if I'm at the beach, you know, my hair is 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:07.160 just so and I'm like, stop, what are you doing? Yeah, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.360 that's beautiful. Can't then what's your history with the John 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:15.240 Like franchise? I had only seen the first one. I 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.559 don't know why I never got around to the sequels. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.360 I liked the first one, and I love action movies. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:25.240 I am a big action movie head. But I simply 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.280 have no excuse, no reason why I had not seen 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.400 the sequels, but I did watch them to prep for this. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.280 We won't go into a lot of detail, but there 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.240 are a few, like noteworthy things that indicate some kind 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.920 of like evolutionist the franchise goes that I want to 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.160 touch on. But um, we'll focus on the first movie, 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:50.320 and I will share a quick recap of the two 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:57.600 sequels for anyone who wants to hear those. But yeah, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.800 I very much enjoy the franchise, especially now that I've 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:06.480 seen the three movies. I'm excited to see the fourth one. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:14.040 I'm a fan and Keanu reeves absolutely National Treasure, untouchable. Yeah, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:18.800 mister sexy. Oh my gosh, the hair, the scruff, the suits, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:24.120 the fact that he moves like a Judo ballerina perfect. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.880 I love the like I mean just I feel like 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.520 most Keanu Reeves movies have just like X Games level 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.040 stylistic choices, and I love that. But how like you 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.360 can just tell John Wick is in bad boy mode 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.680 when he uses hair gel, but when his hair not gel, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:44.080 he's good boy. He's good boy. It's it's helpful for 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.480 me yea to know when he's going to be bad 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.720 and when he's going to be good. When there's volume, 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.320 he's going to be good. Yeah, when there's when there's volume, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.400 he is husband. He's crying, his wife is gone. He's like, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.800 oh my gosh, I better feed the dog. When he's 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.400 hair Jel, who you don't want to know. It's the 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.800 equivalent of plas like standing up, ladies, get out of 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.560 the room. That's what he's doing when he's got the 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.360 hair Jela. It's the equivalent of the putting your hair 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.160 up in a ponytail moment in Birds of Prey and 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.040 ba Yeah, I think it's the hair time. Don't let 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.680 your hair in the way as you're fighting. You gotta 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.280 slick it back. You gotta put it in a pony something. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:22.160 John Wick gets it. I also didn't know that. Um, 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.720 Willem Dafoe and John, like Wizamo, I wish there was 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.720 more John. That's maybe that's one of my big things 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.400 with John Wick. Where bring John? Does he come back 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.800 in future movies? He's in the second one? Yeah, I 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.560 don't know if he's in the third one. I forget 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.040 I was smiling so much. I don't remember him in 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:40.680 the third one. But I love seeing him in it, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.240 Like Willem Dafoe, John, like zamo Ian McShane, those are 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.400 like my good boys, Dean Winters. Like, yes, they put 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.800 Dennis in it. That was exciting for me. Dennis Duffy, man, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.800 I really I love character actors so much, and usually 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.560 I can, you know. I mean, when you look at 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.160 William Dafoe, you can maybe you know, you would be 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.400 like that's the Green Goblin, or yeah, you're like, oh, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.640 I understand how actors work. That's Willam to felt. But 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.800 something about Dennis Duffy, I just like he can't not 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:15.560 be he was too good at it. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, Um, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.000 should we get into it. Let's get into it. Yeah, 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.080 let's do it. Okay, but first let's take a quick 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:32.560 break and then we will come right back. Jamie ask 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:38.040 me if we're back from break, Kaylan are back from break? Um, 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.520 I don't know. We're just sort of like working through 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.040 some stuff. I'm not sure if we're back. This is 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.360 going to pay off later after the next ad break. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.640 Just you wait and see. Anyway, I see where you're 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.760 going and I'm there, thank you. What if the exchange 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.400 pretty early in the movie, Oh, it's with John Languizamo 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.920 where Vigo calls him and he's like, hey, why the 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.120 fuck did you punch my son in the face. He's like, well, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.400 because you stole John Wig's car and killed his dog. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:12.360 And then he just goes oh, Like this movie rocks. Excellent, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.520 excellent world building. Like I think that's my favorite thing 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.040 about the John Wick lore is just characters reacting to him. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.200 Tells you everything you need to know exactly the show 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.880 don't tell and this is show all the way. Yeah, okay, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:33.000 so here is the recap for John Wick one. We 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:38.200 open on a scene where Keanu Reeves recks his car 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.680 into some concrete. He stumbles out. He's injured and bleeding, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.280 from what we will find out is a stab wound. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.000 He's kind of dying. And then he takes out his 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.440 phone and watches a video of his wife, his wife, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:55.240 his wife. He opened the steadwife dot MP four. Yes, John, John, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.840 what are you doing? Are you still filming? John? What 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:01.760 are you doing? And he's loving you so damn much, 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:06.640 and she's like, stop, you're loving me too much. Yeah, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:12.199 you're loving What if I'm gone one day? That'll never happens, okay? 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.800 And then oh, but then you see you see the 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.399 director's cut later of dead Wife dot MP four. I 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.320 want to direct a whole movie called dead Wife dot 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.680 MP four. It's just all vibes. But like you see 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.400 the director's cut later on and she's like, let's go home, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:30.080 like classic dead wife talk. Let's go home. Anyway, So 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.280 this this was her job, John, What did she do? 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.320 Oh my god, we don't need to know anything about her, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.960 just kidding. Her house was fantastic, so she had to 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.360 have done something. Well, I know, it's like, is that 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.440 like hit man money or was she like a fucking 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.200 doctor or something? I don't know. Column a column baby. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.960 The house built on taking out hits and then trying 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.520 to save the people that had the hits taken on them. Ooh, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:01.400 that's a good scam. I would love that movie. Scary. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.919 There's a case I read about called I mean, this 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.639 is actually pretty evil, but like an evil doctor or 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.760 like a rehab a rehab doctor who bought a hotel 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.479 and would deal drugs out of the hotel to get 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.320 people addicted to the drugs, and then they'd be like, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.280 oh no, I'm addicted to the drugs. And he's like, 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:23.040 funny because I own a rehab center about across town. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.000 It's very evil. They called him the candy Man. Wow. Anyways, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.600 these things happen and I would watch a movie about it. Yeah, 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.480 let's write it. Okay. Anyway, this person we've just met 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:38.120 is John Wick. We flash back to John Wick at 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:43.240 home shortly after his wife Helen played by Bridget moynihan, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:49.600 has passed away from an illness. He is devastated. He 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:54.879 then receives a delivery. It's a puppy that his wife 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.480 Helen arranged for him to receive after her death so 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:04.399 that he still has something someone to love. The puppy 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.840 is a little beagle named Daisy. It's very, very cute. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.640 She's so damned cute, the fact that it's my childhood 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:17.359 dog's name. I wanted blood. I watched this with my 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.520 mother and she looked at me and she was like, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:23.240 I want everyone involved to suffer, and I was like, Yeah, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.240 that's what that's what this movie's for. That's what the 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.280 movie's about. That. I think the only thing I knew. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:29.600 I think I think it is kind of I mean, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.160 we'll talk about this later in the episode. I think 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.400 it is kind of interesting where it's like, the only 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:36.119 thing I knew about John Wick was that the first 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.240 movie's thrust was he's trying to get revenge on the 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.280 people who killed his dog. But then I was like, oh, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.480 I mean, not to undercut how horrific it is to 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.040 lose a pet, especially to a violent act. But I 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.840 was like, mmm, it's interesting how that his wife never 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.640 comes up in any of the popular descriptions of the movie. Yeah, 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.880 but it's well, it's weird that it's a morning dog, right, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.439 It's like he's only so upset about the dog because 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:05.560 it's like an extension of his wife. His wife. Here's dog, yes, exactly, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:11.159 his beagle. So John Wick takes his dog out in 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.520 his Cool Boy nineteen sixty nine Mustang and he stops 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:20.200 for some gas where a group of very agro men 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.600 are also getting gas, and one of them is a 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.320 guy played by Alfie Allen who is like, hey, cool dog, 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.359 cool car. How much would you sell it for? And 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.399 John Wick is like, the car's not for sale, and 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:38.040 then Alfie Allen insults him in Russian, but twist, john 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.119 Wick speaks Russian. They're shaken to their core when he 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.560 speaks Russian. Yeah, They're like, what the fuck a person 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:49.080 speaking another language? You're like, it's Keanu Reeves. I assume 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.080 that he speaks every language. He's like a poke dex 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:58.040 exactly exactly. And john Wick leaves after this interaction, and 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.280 Alfie Allen is like, who does doc I think he is? 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.440 And then that night, he and the other guys from 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:09.040 the gas station break into john Wick's house. They beat 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.040 the shit out of him, they steal his car, and 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.320 they kill his dog. John Wick does not like that 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:21.120 this happened at all. He's pretty he's pretty miffed. Yeah, 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.480 he's freaking pissed. He's p oed and so, and we 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.920 don't even know what he's capable of at this point. 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.680 We don't we do not because we have not yet 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:35.080 gotten the big reveal. But john Wick sets off. He's 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.000 still covered in blood. He gets on a bus. He's 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.200 trying to figure out who these guys are and how 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.960 to find them, so he goes to John Languizamo, who 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:49.520 tells him that Vigo Tarasov's son Joseph, that's Alfie Allen, 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.560 is the one who stole his car and killed his dog. 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:57.200 So john Wick gets a new cool boy car and 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:03.639 he takes off. We also meet this Vigo guy. He's 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.119 a crime lord of some sort, like a mob, but 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:13.119 he's your friendly neighborhood, yes, And he goes to his 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.560 son Joseph and is like, you fool, you messed with 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.600 john Wick and John Wick is not someone who you 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:23.159 mess with. And this is when we learn that John 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:27.360 Wick was a former assassin. He was very good at 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.800 his job. He has a reputation for being Bobba Yaga 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.440 or the Boogeyman. And Vigo is like, I saw him 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.160 kill three men with a pencil one time. I love 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.720 that this is eventually shown in the series. Yes, oh 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.199 is it? Yes, that's very fun. It's referred to another 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.640 time and then you do see him kill I think 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.760 it's two guys with a pencil. Yeah, I learned shout 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:53.399 out cross promo fellow. I heard slash Kus on media 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:57.560 podcast Margaret kill Joy's Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff. 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.320 We did an episode about Bobby got just as a 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.920 folk tale and Bobby Agat typically coated as a as 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.280 being a woman. Um So I thought it was interesting 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.480 that in this lore Bobby is I mean, Keanu Rus 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.800 is more of an idea, you know, like he transcends gender. Yes, 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.080 but I thought it was interesting that in this movie 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.800 it translates to Boogieman. But anyways, there's there's a lot 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:28.320 of different sort of versions of Bobby Aga. God. Um 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.359 I had something else to say there, but it's gone. 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.919 What can you do that, it's Bobby Gone. It's okay, 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:39.120 wish wish oh. I was gonna say when that whole 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:41.679 sequence where we're slowly learning that John Wick is the 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.480 scariest person in the world, it almost felt like the action, 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.840 like the brooding action movie version of that sequence from 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:51.760 Mean Girls where everyone's talking about Regina George, especially the 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.640 pencils part, like that sounds you can picture a student 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.920