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Speaker 2: We're in the backyard, which is always so exciting for me.

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Speaker 3: Guest is a rare treat. It's Jenny Yang.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. I love that introduction. Welcome Bay, No good,

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Speaker 2: We should have cross paths much earlier, and we live

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Speaker 4: You want to show me twenty different types of olive oils.

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Speaker 3: Let's go how fucking oils are in your cabinet?

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Speaker 4: Right, We're like opposites. I like meat and vegetables. He's

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Speaker 4: Do you understand that that is the short cut to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want me to open this gift here?

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Speaker 3: I would like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you can forgive me, which I really appreciate.

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Speaker 4: I also like to make fun of it, right, and so,

443
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Speaker 4: you know, sometimes I'll pick up a little little thing

444
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 4: here and there. Sometimes I'll be given a thing here

445
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 4: and there. Sometimes I'll be gift, you know, influencer gifted

446
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 4: a thing here and there right right. I'll be honest,

447
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 4: I did not pick that.

448
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 3: Up for you. I appreciate this honestly. It was in

449
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Speaker 3: the gifts dash. You have a gift stash?

450
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Speaker 5: I do.

451
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know.

452
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 4: I have a little gift stash of things that are

453
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 4: so cute that I don't want to use it, but

454
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 4: I want.

455
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: I know there's other people who would love it.

456
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: That's so smart. So you just like on occasion we'll

457
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 2: see something at the store or whatever. Yeah, they're like

458
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: that could be a future gift. Yeah, like a little thing,

459
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: that's something I could probably pick up on.

460
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 4: I have like ten things. It's not even huge, right,

461
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 4: you know. And so don't be a don't be a hoarder.

462
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm I'm kind of This podcast is kind

463
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: of forcing me into hoarder. Is that's sure, you're getting

464
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: a lot of gifts. It has become a problem. We're

465
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Speaker 2: gonna have to have a community yard sale or something

466
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 2: at that point. But that's such a that is a

467
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: smart idea because I when buying gifts, especially for people

468
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Speaker 2: who I don't know that well or like there, I

469
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: don't know their tastes that well.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will panic. It's I hate it. I hate

471
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: gift giving. I truly do. It's not the love language

472
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: that my family grew up with. What is your lovelength cash?

473
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: Cash or or or lack of pain?

474
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: Oh, lack of like service, lack of disapproval is my

475
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: reward for doing well?

476
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying?

477
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 2: Disappointed and you're like, you're just filled with love exactly.

478
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: That is a nice feeling when someone's not disappointed in me.

479
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm through the roof. I'm like, I

480
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: did bare minimum for you, fantastic, you're not mad or

481
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: you're not sad or I think that's a wonderful love language.

482
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: It is one of them. Yes, But back to self

483
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Speaker 3: help stuff. So you do love self help stuff?

484
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Speaker 4: I do because you know, I'm an immigrant kid. I

485
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: came to America from Taiwan when I was five, and

486
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: I too much. Older brothers and the rest of my

487
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: family didn't accultuate as fast as me. I'm just a

488
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 4: little five year old, just like learning the ABC's right,

489
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Speaker 4: you know, and so I, very early on in my

490
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 4: life had to figure everything out. Just I translated for my.

491
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: Family, you know all of that.

492
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: So so to me, books are great if I don't

493
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: know something about America. I look at a book.

494
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: You know, Americans won't do that. Yeah, you know, for sure,

495
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: I took a citizenship test.

496
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: For sure, I know more civics than some Yeah, but yeah,

497
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Speaker 4: I think you know, I've always sought like sort of

498
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 4: outside authority to to teach myself anything from inside out.

499
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: And so when I got to college and I realized I.

500
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: Had repressed trauma that I needed to process, I sought

501
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 4: out the language and the advice of self help books

502
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Speaker 4: and therapists and and that helps so much.

503
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Speaker 3: And so I just always rely on that when you

504
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: are not raised in a way that you are.

505
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Speaker 4: Well equipped for adulthood, you must seek those You must

506
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 4: seek that training yourself.

507
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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, and I think that that actually is

508
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Speaker 3: most people. I mean self help.

509
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Speaker 2: I think that there must have been some point in

510
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: the eighties or nineties when self there was some weird

511
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: nightmare version of self help which created kind of this

512
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: thing that we.

513
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: Make fun of.

514
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then, like I guess, maybe maybe just getting older,

515
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: you realize, oh, most of these things have some some

516
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: useful thing.

517
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Speaker 3: In your life.

518
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: I guess people are like they look at Tony Robbins

519
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 2: or whatever, screaming at people in an audience, it's like, oh,

520
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't have that, Yeah, but look as much as

521
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: I make fun, I get sucked into the even even

522
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: the most bare minimum. The Instagram infographics, I'm looking at them.

523
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so.

524
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: Much wisdom today and beautifully curated infographics.

525
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Speaker 3: Where does it coming from?

526
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Though? I feel like there's a giant machine that's just

527
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: putting four different colors of pastel together with whatever therapy

528
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: advice it's gleamed from the Internet, Like who are the

529
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: people behind the endless infographics?

530
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Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, after everyone had access to

531
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: Microsoft Paint. It's like before Microsoft Paint and after Microsoft Paint,

532
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: the technology jumped far enough that anyone with any sense

533
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: of you know, motor skills could figure out how to

534
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 4: like design and communicate words and images. So I feel like, yeah,

535
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: there's a lot of graphic designers out there who just

536
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: want to get their message out and their art.

537
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: Out right, and it's like, here are ten reasons your

538
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: partner is going to kill you or whatever, And it's like, Okay,

539
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: this all makes kind of makes sense.

540
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: My partner's going to kill me.

541
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Speaker 4: Or here's my visual spin on a roomy quote, right right,

542
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: or amya Angelou, I wisdom, you know.

543
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: And all of these things have some value. Yeah.

544
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Speaker 4: No, so I will save a good Oh I love

545
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Speaker 4: I love a holistic psychologist quote on Instagram. I love

546
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 4: the holistic psychologists. They put up little things about codependency.

547
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, tell me why, I you know whatever

548
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 4: you know and it yeah, it's it's all. It's all good.

549
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: It's very helpful. So anyway, I.

550
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: Whenever I like would have a bad breakup, whenever like

551
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, ooh, this is some of this is me,

552
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: I would just try to be single. And then whenever

553
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: I had the itch to like text an old flame

554
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: right or or go out and troll for Dick, I

555
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: would I would just try to stop that, you know,

556
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: the way that you would hear people put a little

557
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: rubber band around their wrist and snap it when when

558
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: they're craving smoking.

559
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Speaker 3: I would do that.

560
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: But with self help books, I'd be like, don't do

561
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: the text open up like the way people treat the Bible.

562
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes I just open up the page and just put

563
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: my finger down and just who knows when God's gonna

564
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: speak to me, you know, and then you put So

565
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: that's what I'll do I'll open a self help book

566
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: and just scan until, you know, randomly, until I see

567
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: something that resonates, and then I'll just end up crying.

568
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: And then if I feel a little better, do you

569
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 3: have like a go to self help book? Is there,

570
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: like an oh, I have some. I have a suite

571
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: of self help books, but I do have a top four.

572
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: I do highly writer them. I'd love to hear them.

573
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Speaker 4: I would say my core curriculum included. By the way,

574
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Speaker 4: I'm just just forgive me a lot of these, A

575
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: lot of these self help book people. They don't they're

576
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 4: not good at marketing, but they're so the titles are bad, right,

577
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 4: so a little cringe. But like one of my favorites

578
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 4: was loving Him Without Losing You, you know, which I

579
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: love that and that was really good for like disappearing women.

580
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I think they probably updated it

581
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: to be sort of not gender specific, but but it

582
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: is sort of a woman centric how we're socialized and

583
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: you know, tend to be codependent.

584
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: Or whatever, So that was very helpful.

585
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: It's about you know, really finding your true self and

586
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 4: not really needing to, you know, find a relationship to

587
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: define who you are. And then my second one that

588
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 4: I really liked was why does he do that?

589
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: It really sounds like.

590
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: Writers, like a comedy writer's room said we need joke

591
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: titles for therapy books, self help books.

592
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: And it was like, but that is actually for anyone

593
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: that's been in a relationship with a man. I mean,

594
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: that's a very good question. It's a constantly on the mind.

595
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: Why does he do that? That's truly a book that

596
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 4: I have like dog eared highlighted. It is written from

597
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: a man who ran support groups with male abusers.

598
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Yeah, so it's.

599
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: Like so he was like, through these conversations and these

600
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: groups that I led, I have been able to really

601
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: break down the psychological framework that drives an abusive man.

602
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: Wow, it was amazing. The main kernel I got from

603
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: it is.

604
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: No, it's not because he had a terrible childhood. There's

605
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: plenty of people who are terrible from childhood or who

606
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: had a terrible childhood who end up not being abusive.

607
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,239
Speaker 1: Right.

608
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: The key that makes someone abusive is that is their

609
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 4: value system and their belief system, right, you know. And

610
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: that helped me a lot, Like do you believe that

611
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 4: you are entitled treating a certain person a certain way

612
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: or a certain type of person a certain way. Right,

613
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: it is a belief, it is a choice. So that's

614
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: a very fundamental tas away.

615
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: These titles, it's like totally discounts all this valuable, like

616
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: very serious information.

617
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: But I guess it's just hard. Titles are hard. Titles

618
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: are hard. Why does he do that? Why does he

619
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Speaker 3: do that? Okay? Number number three?

620
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Speaker 4: Number three is the classic Artist's Way, Oh, of course,

621
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: the Artist What an influential book to define what it

622
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: means to support a creative life. Yes, and then we

623
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 4: have finally The.

624
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 3: War of Art.

625
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, another great one for a really good one.

626
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: The creative or even if you're not in a creative field.

627
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything that requires a level of either productivity or

628
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: creativity in anything. Uh, it's really about like talking about psychologically,

629
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 4: what are you doing to yourself to block yourself from

630
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: just acting or trying to do something?

631
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Speaker 2: See both of those are the last two titles you

632
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: mentioned are perfectly fine. But I think it's because they

633
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: basically just say exactly what it is.

634
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, why does he do that? Why does he do that?

635
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Should just be called this is why He's abusive? That

636
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: feels like a clearer title. Uh, not corny and it's

637
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: just get to the heart of the matter. And what

638
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: was the first one you mentioned.

639
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: Without losing you?

640
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

641
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what that was. I don't know

642
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: what the title of that becomes. Yeah, what are all

643
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: loving him without losing you?

644
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: Uh?

645
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: That's titles are tricky. Don't take his ship, don't take

646
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: his dot.

647
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: You don't need him, right, you don't. You don't need

648
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: him as an excellent I imagine these two titles. Why

649
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: does he do that?

650
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: And you don't need him?

651
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: Just having an argument, just having a very deep covered

652
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: just two books facing each other, just bickering.

653
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: You don't need him. Why does he do that? You

654
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: don't need Okay, Well I've got okay, I've got these affirmators.

655
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: It's shrink wrapped for those who can't see, it's shrink wrapped,

656
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: and so I just I'm curious about what's inside as well.

657
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Did my look to my rat past and opened it

658
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: with my teeth? Oh?

659
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 6: I love.

660
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: This is a nice little it looks like a fancy

661
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: little deck of tarot cards. But it's not right.

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Speaker 2: You know how to use these cards. There's no wrong

663
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Speaker 2: way to use these cards. You don't want to start them,

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Speaker 2: then I'm gonna just disregard the rest of the directions.

665
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Speaker 2: If you tell me that os is turn them face

666
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Speaker 2: down on a table in front of you and shuffle

667
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Speaker 2: them the way a three year old would. Okay, specific

668
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Speaker 2: as you mix the cards around, close your eyes, you mean.

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Speaker 3: Throw them willy nilly and then have your mom step

670
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Speaker 3: on them in the middle of the night. We're giving

671
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Speaker 3: a lot of credit to three year olds. Three year

672
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Speaker 3: old is essentially a baby.

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Speaker 2: If you have seen a three year old recently, they

674
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Speaker 2: do not have the motor skills to shuffle cards.

675
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Speaker 3: So I would call anyone who is under the age

676
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Speaker 3: of eighteen a baby.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, they don't have the skills, no efficient frontal

678
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Speaker 4: lobe or motor skills.

679
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm barely able to shuffle a deck of cards anyway.

680
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: SOEs mix the cards around, close your eyes, take a

681
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: deep breath, and silently ask the cards that the cards

682
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Speaker 2: give you a message that you will benefit from in

683
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Speaker 2: this moment. Then reach in, pull a single card and

684
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Speaker 2: feel confident this is the card for you. Should I

685
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: give it a shot? Oh my gosh, I'll give a question.

686
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: You are going to have to do this as well, so.

687
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Speaker 2: It's your given. Don't leave me alone here. Okay, so

688
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: I've already forgotten how.

689
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Speaker 4: To do this. Okay, So basically, I mean the shortcut

690
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Speaker 4: is you shuffle the cards, think about your question, put

691
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Speaker 4: your energy into it.

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Speaker 3: As one says in this Realm, right cards and like

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Speaker 3: a three year old? How do you shuffle them like

694
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Speaker 3: a three year old.

695
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Speaker 2: Doing my three year old? Well, you just get like

696
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Speaker 2: a lot of syrup on your hands everything.

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Speaker 4: I guess they're like as opposed to a Las Vegas

698
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Speaker 4: casino dealer. Is that are we saying we don't want

699
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Speaker 4: to Accordian shuffle?

700
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Speaker 3: I wish I could do the Cordion shuffle. Okay, this

701
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 3: feels shuffled. To keep going, you got it? Close your eyes, okay,

702
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: deep breath, h I'm taking the car. Oh I have

703
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: to ask it a question? Yeah, okay, what will benefit

704
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Speaker 3: me in this moment?

705
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: This is what it's gonna say. I'm about to announce.

706
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: There's kind of a gray cloud with a smile on

707
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: its face and says gentleness. Okay, I speak with gentleness

708
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: and I listen with gentleness. This is very podcast orient.

709
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: I align with the gentlest part of myself, and I

710
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: take joy in being receptive, open and unafraid. I am

711
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: like a baby deer who's best friends with a baby elephant.

712
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: I say that all the time. Everyone knows that about me.

713
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: The baby elephant wraps its little trunk around my shoulders

714
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Speaker 2: and we lie down gently on the grass, daydreaming and

715
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: talking about what sorts of humans the clouds look like.

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Speaker 3: That's very nice. That was the most pleasant imagery that

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Speaker 3: I have. Jenny, you have to do this.

718
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: I just finished watching Squid Game, and I really needed that.

719
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Speaker 2: That's an intent show. I've only watched one episode and

720
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm like bringing myself back. I feel so behind

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Speaker 2: the rest of truly, ninety percent of the world has

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Speaker 2: watched at this point.

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Speaker 3: This is my journey. You're gentle. You just put the

724
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Speaker 3: you just pull the card. You're too gentle for squid Game.

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Speaker 2: I am tough as nails, okay, and I'm gonna watch

726
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: squid Game.

727
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Speaker 3: But gentle does not imply lack of toughness.

728
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Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying. Okay, send it on to the world.

729
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: That's those are not competing things.

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Speaker 2: Gentleness is my power. Okay, shuffle the cards. Yeah, and

731
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Speaker 2: let's see what's happening with you. Jenny is doing her

732
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Speaker 2: best three year old shuffle.

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Speaker 4: You know what, as opposed to shuffling like a three

734
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Speaker 4: year old, I'm going to shuffle.

735
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Speaker 3: Whoa, this is very pro like a Vegas dealer. Okay,

736
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: this is this is how I live right very least.

737
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Speaker 3: This is Reno skill level.

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Speaker 4: Listen the Chinese and I asked for understand that you

739
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Speaker 4: know you must know how to shuffle cards.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I feel so shamed right now. My shuffling was

741
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Speaker 3: the most rudimentary. I am not doing this to shame you.

742
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: Tell we don't always do things on purpose to shame others.

743
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Speaker 2: Sometimes we do it by mistake.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so now I ask it a question. You say,

745
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Speaker 3: you ask it the best thing for you in this moment?

746
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: Oh, what is the best thing for me in this moment?

747
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: The card I drew says playfulness. It looks like a

748
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 4: little like bootleg Mary Poppins, she looks like a governess.

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Speaker 3: In a cartoon and says playfulness. I am playful.

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Speaker 4: I am a playful participant in life, and I always

751
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Speaker 4: have the option to make something a fun game rather

752
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Speaker 4: than a heavy burden.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Mary Poppins puts sugar in the medicine for a reason

755
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Speaker 4: that lady really knows how to.

756
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Speaker 3: Party, what, who's writing this? Who gets paid to write this?

757
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: This is what?

758
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: This is the thing I'm going to show my parents

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00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: when when they're like, what can you do when you're

760
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: a comedian?

761
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: What do you get paid to do?

762
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: What kind of jobs can you get? I'm gonna show

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Speaker 4: them this card. I'm gonna say, do you see how

764
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: this is so delightful? The command of the English language,

765
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Speaker 4: The reference to pop culture.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so you a bootleg Mary Popp'inm's.

767
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it, though, I love I love that

768
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: in this moment. Any playfulness. It's what we're doing. We're playing.

769
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Speaker 4: We're out here playing.

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Speaker 2: Does Yeah, you feel like a playful I mean the

771
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Speaker 2: animal crossing thing. I feel like you live a life

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Speaker 2: of playfulness.

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Speaker 4: And I love putting sugar in medicine. That's literally what

774
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Speaker 4: I do when I perform a stand up comedy.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, did anybody ever put sugar in actual medicine?

776
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: That's the big question.

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00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: I feel like they did. I feel like that was.

778
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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably the entire up until probably the twentieth century,

779
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: most medicine was just sugar, right, sugar and alcohol.

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00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, sugar, alcohol and uh sassafras. That's just a word

781
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: that occurs to me. Licorice bark. You know everything was

782
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 4: a tonic.

783
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: Root, that kind of thing. Yeah, well interesting, So your playfulness,

784
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Speaker 2: I'm gentleness.

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00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: I love that moment in.

786
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: The moment, that's what we need right now. I agree,

787
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: you know, things can get heavy, and I always can

788
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: rely on being feeling feeling a.

789
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Speaker 3: Little frivolous, right right. I like that.

790
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Speaker 2: I love this game, or I guess it's not so

791
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Speaker 2: much a game, but as a it's a now just

792
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: my life teacher.

793
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: It is a way of life. I told you this

794
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: is we're turning this into a lifestyle broadcast. You will

795
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: do anything in your power to turn this into a lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I secretly want to

797
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Speaker 4: just be Gwinny and run my own goop. Of course,

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Speaker 4: who doesn't Martha Stewart Living? You know, any one of

799
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 4: these people who get to have their own limited run

800
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: magazines every month at the grocery store with their face

801
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: on it.

802
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: Who's buying this?

803
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't have enough crossover appeal to truly be Rachel Ray,

804
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like Rachel Ray? She has

805
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 4: a magazine?

806
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: Why Rachel Ray? At this point, I feel like it's

807
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: largely just in the dog food game. Yeah, she's got

808
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: her own line of dog food, it's right, Is that true?

809
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Or am I making that up?

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00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: No?

811
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Speaker 3: Okay, it's not true.

812
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Probably, but you know, any one of these lifestyle gurus

813
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: that kind of go into like print media.

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00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: Right, I would love, I mean nothing would make me

815
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 2: happier than to be a Martha.

816
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: Oh, let me be on what is it.

817
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: She's in Connecticut or something New Hampshire, something like the Hill.

818
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: I think it's the where she lives. And then she's

819
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: on Instagram barely communicating her thoughts and feelings always and

820
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: then writing like a lawnmower.

821
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: Around because I feel like she's been in the influencer

822
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: game so long, so it only makes sense that, you know,

823
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 4: as she's adapted to social media and as she's gotten older,

824
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: it's like you're You're Martha Stewart. You don't have to

825
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 4: prove anything. You could truly just be a vibe. That's

826
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Speaker 4: all she needs to do. She doesn't have to communicate

827
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Speaker 4: anything but just smolder to the camera in her leg pool.

828
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know, do collapse with like, you know,

829
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Speaker 4: weed smoking, you know, fucking Snoop dogg I don't know.

830
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Speaker 2: One of these days, I'm going to cross paths with

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Speaker 2: Martha Stewart and it's going to change lives. It's going

832
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: to change both of our lives. It's going to change

833
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: everyone else's life. Book it actually speaking of self help things,

834
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Speaker 2: I have an app called the Pattern.

835
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Speaker 3: Yes.

836
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Speaker 2: It recently told me I'm going to find inner happiness

837
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Speaker 2: in February of twenty twenty two, So put it on

838
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Speaker 2: your calendars.

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Speaker 4: Folks, you have to check in. I am putting it

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Speaker 4: on my calendar. I'm going to ask you February of

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Speaker 4: twenty two.

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00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: That's what I do.

843
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: I will put it on my Google calendar. I only

844
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 4: have a few months left before I have inner happiness.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel inner happiness now? No, absolutely not. I

846
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: am as far from inner happiness as you possibly could get.

847
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: Have you ever felt inner happiness? It's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I think I do feel inner happiness for about four

849
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: minutes every morning, after I have coffee and breakfast and

850
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: then retreat to whatever my actual inner turmoil is. Right,

851
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: you know, the coffee, the caffeine clicks in, got a

852
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 2: breakfast in my stomach. No one's bothered me yet today. Yeah,

853
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful I like that.

854
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Do you have inner happiness?

855
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: I do most of the time, I think so. Oh,

856
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: at least half I do have to see it. That's

857
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: a good amount, and I'm very happy with that.

858
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: It used to not be.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you, I've read a lot of self

860
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 4: help books. I've done a lot of journaling.

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00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: Look, playfulness, Let's play a game. I'm trying to play

862
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: a game.

863
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, let's do it. Let's play a

864
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: game called Gift or a Curse. I need a number

865
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: between one and ten from you. Oh, let's do a six.

866
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay.

867
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Speaker 2: I have to do like calculating right now to get

868
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Speaker 2: our game pieces. So this is your opportunity to promote something.

869
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: If you don't feel like promoting, you can recommend. If

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Speaker 2: you don't feel like recommending, you can do whatever you.

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Speaker 3: Want, okay, like calculating.

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00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: Well, while Bridger is doing light calculating, I guess I'm

873
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: supposed to be promoting or recommend. My birthday's coming up

874
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: in early November, and uh, what I wish for the

875
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: world is, uh, everyone to get vaccinated. I wish Okay,

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: so this is not a wish list, Jenny, what are

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Speaker 4: you doing? I don't know why I'm getting so nervous

878
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 4: just monologuing here. But no, I would have come back

879
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: from my tour on the Eat Northeast. I'm obsessed with

880
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: preppy Northeast culture truly, And I just discovered there's a.

881
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: Word called the leaf peep. Peeping people like to leaf peep.

882
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Is that like touring the fall leaves? Yes,

883
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 3: I would love to do that leaf peeping. It's just

884
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: a very creepy name. I don't need to call it peeping.

885
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 4: No, but John John Oliver actually feature a little bit

886
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 4: about it where everyone started saying it's leaf peeping season

887
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: just recently. I was like, see, you get it. It's

888
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 4: it's awkward, it's creepy. But I was like, I'm gonna

889
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 4: name my tour of the Northeast the Mini Tour the

890
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: leaf Peeper Tour.

891
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: That's a great name.

892
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, people don't know that right now because this by

893
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 4: the time this comes out, the shows would have happened.

894
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 4: But I actually ordered myself a big stack of fake

895
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 4: fall leaves and I'm just gonna throw on stage. Oh

896
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: that's fantastic, emphasize a punchline. I feel like that's gonna

897
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 4: be my new tagline. Is just a flourish of fall leaves.

898
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 4: I hope you kind of get pigeonholed as the fall

899
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: leaf comedian. Isn't she that person who throws leaves on stage?

900
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: You'll have like a residency in Vegas where it's just

901
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: like all leaf material. I think that would work for you.

902
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be pigeonholed.

903
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: Ten years ago, I did a when I started stand up,

904
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 4: I did a show called Pumpkin the Pumpkin Spice Show,

905
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: and it was just literally my whole excuse to make

906
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 4: fun of pumpkin spice. But we've crusted, we've come back

907
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: to unironically loving it, right, So I do love it.

908
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: The deep saturation of pumpkin spice. Jokes about like twenty fifteen,

909
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: I think kind of we all fell into it and now.

910
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: It's just part of the world. It is we've accepted.

911
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, here's how we play gift or at Kurts. Okay,

912
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna name three things. Yeah, you're gonna tell me

913
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: if there are a gift or a curse and why. Now,

914
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: be careful there are correct answers. You can lose the

915
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: game and people will be furious. Okay, it could devastate

916
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: your career, So just be careful. What is your fan

917
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: base called? Is there a name for your fan No,

918
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: we don't have.

919
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: I've never you know, the Bridgerton's, the Bridgerton's, I've never

920
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: labeled them, so they'll be upset if I mess up,

921
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: they will be furious. Okay, got it? Number one? And

922
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: this one actually I just threw in.

923
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: It was not part of my light calculating because it's

924
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: an actually excellent suggestion from none other than our producer

925
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: on a lease. And so I you know, I kind

926
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: of cooked the books and just threw it in.

927
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: Sue me. Gift or a curse? Texts being sent with effects?

928
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Do you know these?

929
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 2: You know it's like various effects, the confetti, the fireworks,

930
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: the what have yous?

931
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, after a curse it is. I'm so sorry

932
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: for the one person who does this to me on

933
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: my own I phone. A curse and why because it's startling.

934
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: It's startling. I don't know if you know this, but

935
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 4: I live with zero notifications on nothing, buzzes, nothing rings.

936
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 4: If I want to talk to you, i'd be looking

937
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: at my phone, you know what I mean. And I'm

938
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: on my phone enough that for the most part.

939
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't miss.

940
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: Anything, but I don't like the Pavlovian adrenaline rush that

941
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: we get from, you know, playing the slot machine on

942
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: our phones all day, and so I don't like those

943
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: things surprising me. If it's a if it's a congratulations,

944
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: good luck or whatever, I want to feel the positivity.

945
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 4: I don't want to be frightened, you know what I mean.

946
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: I don't want it's confusing because you can do little

947
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: weird swooshes like a text bubble, can can blow up

948
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: like a balloon and explode.

949
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: It's all very violent. It's all very violent.

950
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 6: You know.

951
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: When I want to see violence, I want to choose it.

952
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 4: And I don't want to be surprised. Why squid Game exactly.

953
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 4: I'm clicking on go play squid Game comments, but I

954
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: don't want it to surprise me.

955
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: That's why I done. I don't go to horror movies. Oh.

956
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: I could do this all day. I could give you

957
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: reasons for my position.

958
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: Well, it's your playful nature. Oh it is, Jenny. Oh,

959
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: I hate to hear it off the bat. You're wrong.

960
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: I love these things. Oh look, look here's my whole thing.

961
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: When you say you have no notifications you don't get

962
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: the buzz, the beep, the bing, the ding.

963
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: I'm on board with that.

964
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve, I had a boss who I despise, who

965
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: would it was constantly texting and calling me, And I

966
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: can just pinpoint the psychological turn where I was like,

967
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: I can no longer handle the phone notifying me of anything. Yeah,

968
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: silent everything. Yes, it's very frustrating for a lot of

969
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: people in my life. I can't get a hold of you.

970
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: Why didn't you see my text? Because I'm taking care

971
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: of myself.

972
00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: That's right.

973
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: I'll get around to you when I get around to you,

974
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 5: that's right. So I'm fully on board with that. Great,

975
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 5: but you're not the effects I love. I love a gimmick,

976
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 5: a visual gimmick. I love the fireworks.

977
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: I actually kind of wish when you were talking about that,

978
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: I feel like there should be one more ghosts fly

979
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: out of the phone at you. Why isn't there like

980
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: a scary effect or a chandelier falls from the top

981
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: of the phone.

982
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: Just just a Phantom of the Opera themed set of effects.

983
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: What I'm asking for? Mask?

984
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Yes, a Lloyd Weber sponsored text effect. Yeah, Apple, let's talk,

985
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 2: Tim Cook, get me on the line. Okay, so zero,

986
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: so far, Jenny, I think they're a gift.

987
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: Great.

988
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: Remember we sit on opposite ends of this. That's fine,

989
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: it's fine.

990
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: Well, we've had such a good time so far that

991
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: this little fissure in our relationship. I don't think it's

992
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: going to be a problem. Number two, this is a

993
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: listener suggestion from someone named Lindsay. Gift or a curse.

994
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: Musicians call new albums projects.

995
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh, a curse?

996
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: And why you know, even the Mindy Project disturbed me

997
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: for a hot second. I love Mindy Kaling because I

998
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: feel like it's a it's uh, you know, this is

999
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: before I worked in the biz, but you know, it

1000
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: just felt like the temporary untitled name.

1001
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 3: Yes, and it's like, I get it. Titles are hard.

1002
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: That's why in journalism we have headline writers who are

1003
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: different from the regular writers, and so I can sympathize

1004
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 4: with that, empathize. I don't know which, whatever the feeling is,

1005
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: I love you, Mindy Kiling, But Mindy Project, you know,

1006
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: the X y Z Project, you know, it just feels

1007
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 4: a little lazy, it doesn't. It feels uninspired.

1008
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: It feels like is this what is to come right?

1009
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: Right?

1010
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: Because the headline. The title.

1011
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: It's supposed to give you a taste in a mus

1012
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: bush m hmmm, right of what the full meal should be.

1013
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 4: And I don't appreciate that level of the lack of consideration.

1014
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: You got it.

1015
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: They're absolutely of course, it's a curse for all the

1016
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: reason I stated. Also, I feel like it's kind of

1017
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: a symptom of like suddenly, now musicians, like everyone, you

1018
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: have your thing, you do well, but you also have

1019
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: to do fifty other things well. So the musician now

1020
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: has to have it be a visual project. They've got

1021
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: to have it be an interactive element. It's like, just

1022
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: make an album and title it and let's move on.

1023
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: I want to listen to your album with a nice title.

1024
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't need it to be a four D experience. No,

1025
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: forget it, it's just distracting. Yeah, focus, we need you

1026
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: to focus. Project is to general.

1027
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: Everybody I on the prize forget the projects.

1028
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's Kanye West, I think, is kind

1029
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: of leading the charge of all this, inviting everyone to

1030
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: an arena, and suddenly it's just this ongoing nightmare we're

1031
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: stuck in. It's like, if it was just an album

1032
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: with the title, we could forget about it and move

1033
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: on with our lives.

1034
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: Instead, it's a never ending project.

1035
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like a project she should only be

1036
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: used by any artist or creator who is either God

1037
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 4: or at the level of ego of God. And therefore

1038
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: Kanye and God, you know what I mean. That's like

1039
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: I feel like, that's that's your project people, because they

1040
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 4: have such an ambitious vision.

1041
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: We know you're just gonna be wandering around kind of

1042
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: this unfinished house for the rest of your life. Yes,

1043
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: and we just that's who you are.

1044
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: Go for it and then And the only other times

1045
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: you should use the word project is if you are

1046
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 4: dating someone you want to fix.

1047
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. Why would you use it for

1048
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: your album?

1049
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: And any Instagram infographic will tell you to get out

1050
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: of that relationship, is right?

1051
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: Could you fix him?

1052
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 5: No?

1053
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: You can't change him. You can't. Why does he do that?

1054
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: You can?

1055
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: You can? You can love him without losing you, you

1056
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

1057
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: Right?

1058
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: Thank you?

1059
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 2: Someone had to say it exactly. Okay, you've gotten one

1060
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: out of two so far. This is the final one. Okay,

1061
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: gift or a curse? Skywriting?

1062
00:50:58,920 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 3: A gift?

1063
00:50:59,400 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: Oh?

1064
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: Are you kids?

1065
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: Mean?

1066
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: Immediately? A gift and why I love words. Okay, okay,

1067
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 4: language is beautiful. It's how we connect. It's how I

1068
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 4: get delighted. Why not delight me when I'm just out

1069
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 4: and about in public. What I love about skywriting? Is it?

1070
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: Now?

1071
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: The think about it?

1072
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 4: It probably does collute the air, but whatever, you know,

1073
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 4: it's like the chalking. It's like the chalk writing of

1074
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: the sky. Sure you know, it's give me a fun

1075
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 4: little message. You know. Maybe someone's having a moment where

1076
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: they're proclaiming their love. You know what I mean. Maybe

1077
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 4: someone decided they needed to I don't know, shame someone

1078
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 4: in the sky. Let's see shame. I want to see

1079
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: all the deadly sins. I want to see all the emotions.

1080
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: It's just another opportunity to get communicated with and be

1081
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: broadcast with. One cannot afford a billboard. It requires a

1082
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: lot of designing and will it work, I don't know.

1083
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: But this is the billboard of the sky and it's ephemeral.

1084
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: I love an ephemeral art. Stand up comedy, Jenny Oh.

1085
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: Skywriting is a curse. I drove someone was skywriting a

1086
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: few weeks ago.

1087
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: I drove around the Eagle Rock area for probably twenty

1088
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: minutes waiting for to find out what it said. It

1089
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: was never clear. They wasted my time. We're polluting the air.

1090
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: What are we doing when you're dragging everyone into your

1091
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: advertising or your big proposal. Now you bring up the

1092
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: idea of shame if somebody wants to write in the

1093
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: air bridge or you slut. Okay, I'm on board with that.

1094
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: Oh here that.

1095
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh we're getting some birds. Oh, I hope the mics

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Speaker 2: pick up the birds. They've come for a little evening supper.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's shaming me.

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Speaker 4: They're like, why are you constantly talking for so long?

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Speaker 4: I hate these human voices.

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Speaker 3: Shut up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, Jenny, look skywriting curse. I'm not on board

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Speaker 2: with it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Look, there's something kind of charming and old fashioned it,

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Speaker 2: but ultimately I feel like it must be so expensive, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and what what are we trying to get across?

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Speaker 3: H And again, that recent experience I had was just

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00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: so traumatic for me. Yeah, and to what end? It's okay?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's okay for us to disagree because you're

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00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 4: you're very gentle with it. That's true, and so I

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00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 4: don't feel personally offended. I feel disappointed, but okay, not

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Speaker 4: personally offended.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this you're obviously just upset that you lost the game,

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00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: and that's fine. Okay, let's answer a listener question. Sure,

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Speaker 2: let's do this is called I said no emails. People

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00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

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00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: They people have so many problems, it's overwhelming. And so

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00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: they turned to me, and they turned to my guests,

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Speaker 2: and then they get advice. This is the uh, this

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Speaker 2: is the one I'm going to read, it, says deer

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Speaker 2: Bridger and guest. Midway through the pandemic, my partner and

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00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: I moved to Utah. I'm from Utah so familiar, and

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Speaker 2: moved into his parents' house until we could get settled

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Speaker 2: and find work. We lived with them for almost six

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Speaker 2: months and have now moved out. What is a gift

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00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: we can get them that says thank you for hosting us.

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00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: That isn't junk. They are doing a home renovation soon,

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Speaker 2: so anything too big will just be something else they

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Speaker 2: need to move. Thanks for your help, G. The letter

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Speaker 2: G Greg Gary, Gloria, God only knows, God only knows could.

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Speaker 3: Be the first name. It's a good point I make.

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Speaker 3: What does G get these in laws that they were

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Speaker 3: staying with for six months.

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Speaker 2: Six months is a decent chunk of time. They've just

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Speaker 2: renovated or they're about to renovate.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I you know, I did light renovations before I

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Speaker 4: moved into my house this year, right, and I really

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00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: relied on delivery food because it was my kitchen being done.

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Speaker 3: Oh of course, So if you want to get like.

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Speaker 4: A delivery gift card, I think that's probably useful so

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Speaker 4: it doesn't take up too much space.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: We also did rely on a hot plate that I had,

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00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 4: an induction hot plate, right, also a really you know,

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00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: hefty sort of toaster, oven, broiler, air frar. So if

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00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 4: there is a small appliance like an air fryer or

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00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: or a you know, induction is great because it doesn't

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00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: it's like, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It won't cause a fire. Right if the electrical court

1150
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: is fine, I'll find a way.

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00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: That is. Now I feel very stupid because my sister

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 2: just moved into her house. They were renovating this house,

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00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: and I gave her a gift card to West Elm.

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00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: They didn't have a k they haven't had a kitchen

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00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: or working oven or anything for weeks. I could have

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00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: saved them a lot of money with food.

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Speaker 4: No, but yes, but you know, West Elm is still

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00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 4: really nice because they're going to be buying furniture.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: But practical, I should have thought more practical shitt kids

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Speaker 2: who are probably hungry.

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Speaker 4: No, that's practical enough. I will be here to affirm

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00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 4: that gift choice.

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00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate that. I like to fish for an affirmation. Gee,

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00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: Jenny has given you some excellent advice here. I'm gonna say,

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00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: why not a huge like indoor water feature.

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00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I love indor.

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00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: It kind of makes any room it's in kind of

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00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: humid and gross. Yes, I think that could be nice

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00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 2: for the in laws, and they can't say no when

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00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: you have two extra bodies in the home. It does

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00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: make the atmosphere humid and gross. So when you leave,

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00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: they might miss you.

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00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 4: Give them an indoor water feature, make them feel like

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00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 4: you're their mouth breathing.

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: While even though you're physically gone. I love it.

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00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 2: The utai are is very dry and it's essentially a humidifier.

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00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: We're headed into the winter months. Mom and dad in

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00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 2: law are going to love this fountain that they have

1180
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: to maintain. That's kind of growing mold, algae, algae it's

1181
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: kind of like giving them a little pet. Yeah, and

1182
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: why not throw in a pet while.

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: You're at it? Guess what?

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00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: This is what we call a project. And with that

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: we're closing the mailbag. Gene, congratulations on getting out of

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00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: mom and dad in law's house. I guess maybe not

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00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: in laws. That you just said partner. You didn't say

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00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: husband or wife. I hate to assume, but that you know,

1189
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: when you write into this podcast, I will be assuming

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00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 2: things about you and just moving forward. I've deleted your email.

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00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: You've gotten the answer. Go forward with your new life. Jenny.

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00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: What a wonderful time I've had here. Delightful, playful, gentle,

1193
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: all of it. It's everything anyone could ask for and more.

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00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: We're neighbors. We're neighbors. We just you know, chatted, we met,

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Speaker 3: I gave you a gift. We're sisters in sauce. We are.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate a sauce. We'll keep the sauce.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you you're gonna get You're gonna get a mailbag. Uh,

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: you know, overflooded because there's it's very controversial. There's people

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Speaker 4: who are very upset about keeping extra sauce.

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 4: Which is as a clutter, and you know you're not

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00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 4: going to use it. That's that's just me channeling my partner.

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Speaker 5: It's food.

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Speaker 2: People around the world would love to have an extra sauce.

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm grateful for an extra sauce.

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00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 4: See, that's why I think we're gonna get along.

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Speaker 2: We're practical. Yep, Listener, keep a couple sauces. You never

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00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: know when you're gonna need them. You might want some

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00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: Ketchup in your glove box. Occasionally you need a little

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00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: extra Ketchup, just a.

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Speaker 6: Little hot car ketchup, just a nice walk. Your car

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 6: breaks down in the middle of the road, you're out

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 6: there for days. I can't believe I threw away those

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00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 6: three Ketchup packets. I could have had breakfast, lunch, and

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Speaker 6: dinner with these packets.

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Speaker 3: No, you're right.

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: Actually, now that I think about it, in a survival situation,

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Speaker 4: i'm not. I can't disagree with that.

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Speaker 2: Look, we've all lived through a pandemic and we've seen

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Speaker 2: the empty shelves. You want to keep the sauces. Listener,

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: Hopefully your car hasn't broken down. Hopefully you're not listening

1222
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: to this waiting to be towed. But if you are,

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00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: I hate to rub in the fact that you threw

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00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: away all that catch up and made such a foolish decision,

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00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: but hopefully you'll learn.

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Speaker 3: Jenny, thank you for being here. I'm excited. Thank you listener.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna send you off into the world now like

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: a little newborn baby. Go and make some decent choices.

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Speaker 3: Goodbye.

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Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 2: produced and engineered by our dear friend Annalisea Nelson, and

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00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You

1233
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts.

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Speaker 2: That's where you're going to see pictures of all these

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Speaker 2: wonderful gifts I'm getting.

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Speaker 3: You have to see the gifts.

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Speaker 2: Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you

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00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: found me.

1239
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 3: And why not leave a review while you're there.

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Speaker 2: It's really the least you could do, considering everything I

1241
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: do for you. And if you're interested in advertising on

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00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: the show, go to miderl dot com slash ads.

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Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: But you're a guess to my home.

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01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no,

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01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: guess your own presences, presents enough I already had too

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01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?