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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, the home of Sessler after.

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Speaker 2: Dark from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the

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Speaker 2: NFL the week fourteen Sunday Recap. Whoa it is after dark,

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Speaker 2: so you're gonna get a vibe Mark Sessler along with

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, heroes both.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dan Hansis boys. How about this?

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Speaker 2: Listen to this right now as we record, here we go,

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Speaker 2: I refuse to what listen?

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, let's get start the show going and start

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Speaker 1: positive way, mister Rosenthal. The AFC wild Card situation wild

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Speaker 1: there are six teams at seven and six. Six teams

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Speaker 1: at seven and six Pittsburgh, Indy, Houston, Denver, Sincy, Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: the NFC. They got the Vikings, the team of ATM

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Speaker 1: they're seven and six, so that's nice as well.

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Speaker 3: And then five teams with six wins.

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Speaker 2: So it should be obvious there's a lot to be

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Speaker 2: determined in this this final stretch of the regular season,

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Speaker 2: and it's really.

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Speaker 1: Hard to tell who's what. It's like you're in a

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Speaker 1: house of.

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Speaker 2: Mirrors trying to figure out what teams to really believe

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Speaker 2: in right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when I was like a young kid, I used

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Speaker 4: to spend and I became obsessed with football like back then,

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Speaker 4: like on with a pen and paper. I'd go through

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Speaker 4: these like playoff things like in my room for hours.

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Speaker 4: But it like nothing back then was like this because

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Speaker 4: there were always six or seven dominant teams and some trash.

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Speaker 1: They're they'rew all cobble together right now.

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Speaker 5: Right we thought the AFC was going to be the

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Speaker 5: better conference going into this year. It is, but for

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Speaker 5: a different reason, like at the top, it's not. But

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Speaker 5: they do have eleven. We do have eleven teams in

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Speaker 5: the AFC above five hundred basically eliminated five and everything

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Speaker 5: else is up for grabs.

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Speaker 6: I thought this was the best Sunday of the year, a.

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Speaker 3: Very good Sunday, especially the early window.

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Speaker 2: And then we had the game we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about right now because one of those teams entering action

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Speaker 2: hoping to be seven to six was the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: It was a game they absolutely needed. Guess what they

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Speaker 7: Malmes in the shotgun, two receivers left, one to the

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Speaker 7: right and Kelsey in motion coming over left to right.

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Speaker 7: Here's the snap back to pass and pressure coming throws

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Speaker 7: it deep down the middle of the.

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Speaker 6: Field, it falls incomplete turn over on.

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Speaker 2: Downs Buffalo Football with fifty five seconds remaining, the defense holds.

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Speaker 2: Oh indeed, Chris Brown with the call w g R

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. It's been a season of frustration and

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Speaker 2: yet with kind of seemingly everything on the line, or

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Speaker 2: at least it felt that way in this game, they

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Speaker 2: find a way to get it done and maybe and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to it some great fortune in this

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Speaker 2: case involving Darius Tonian where he put his right foot

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Speaker 2: on a faithful play by the Chiefs on their last drive.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. Twenty seventeen Bills get the win.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, they are one of these seven and six teams.

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Speaker 3: And Mark.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, the numbers don't jump out at you in

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Speaker 2: this game. It's not like he had one of those

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Speaker 2: classic games. But it was such a great Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: game to me, And how often he saved the Bills

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Speaker 2: from catastrophic plays, big sacks, big swings of momentum, and

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Speaker 2: he kept on making great plays, keeping plays alive.

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Speaker 1: It was vintage in so many ways.

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Speaker 4: I thought he totally responded, you know, when not the

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Speaker 4: entire team did around him at times There was one

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Speaker 4: just a classic Josh Allen improvisational dose of magic, where

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Speaker 4: it was a four yard completion of Dalton Kincaid on

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Speaker 1: He had no business even.

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Speaker 4: Being around to make that throw, and it's like, it's

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Speaker 4: this is the kind of thing that only Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: can do. There was the I thought, absolute pivotal moment

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Speaker 4: he were a different human, that would have put them

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Speaker 4: like out in dangerous worlds outside of where you want

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Speaker 4: the one yard he was right before the field one

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Speaker 1: It would have been completely fatal.

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Speaker 4: And so you know it's like they don't look completely

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Speaker 4: but Alan showed us what he can do and why

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Speaker 4: they're in this moment and you can't count them out

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Speaker 1: This was a huge victory for the bills'n't saving.

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Speaker 5: Right their season would have finally, I would have finally

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Speaker 5: said it is over now. And I know they would

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Speaker 5: have only been one game back of all the seven

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Speaker 5: and sixteens, but they had been in these games week

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Speaker 5: after week after week, and and Romo said on the broadcast,

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Speaker 5: Sean mcdermot's defense. So for their defense with some absolute

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Speaker 5: on Kadarius Tony and make three great plays in a row,

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Speaker 5: it is worth mentioning. You know, Ed Oliver getting that

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Speaker 5: pickup to hit Mahomes's arm on fourth down. There's no

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Speaker 5: to me, the key play of that final drive is

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Speaker 5: the Design run on third and two. And it's just

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Speaker 5: like it's Allen season. It's Design run. I'm gonna scramble

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Speaker 5: and I'm gonna get it season.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Tony play second and

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Speaker 2: ten near midfield.

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Speaker 3: In fact, let's listen to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to Chiefs Radio Mitch Holtis and company on

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Speaker 2: what it looked to be a dramatic go ahead, a

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Speaker 2: trick play touchdown that turned into a penalized play for

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Speaker 8: They sent another blitz selling out flag on the play

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Speaker 8: might be a free one.

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Speaker 9: They've got Kelsey at the thirty Kelsey twenty five, angling

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Speaker 1: That's the fifteen yard line.

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Speaker 9: It's Tony ten time touchdown Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: They mess around and practice with us all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna go with a forty nine yard touchdown.

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Speaker 10: Kelsey the old University of Cincinnati quarterback number.

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Speaker 11: Nineteen offense line up in the Riffers five yard pendety.

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Speaker 12: Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Who wasn't on on Cadarius Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Cadarius Tony, who set the tone for the whole

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Speaker 2: season really in Week one on Thursday night with that

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Speaker 2: and it's you don't need to be some type of

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Speaker 2: seer to see this, that a wide receiver would betray

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Speaker 2: Mahomes again on this this pivotal drive for their chances

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Speaker 2: to be the number one seed, And not only does

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Speaker 2: it happen, it's Tony again, who was legitimately off sides.

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Speaker 3: His foot was in the neutral zone.

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Speaker 2: Now, why is Pat Mahomes going insane after the fourth down?

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Speaker 2: In completion frustration that happened a few plays later, but

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Speaker 2: also because on the third and long Von Miller had

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Speaker 2: So you had the frustration of them, you know, eyeballing

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Speaker 2: the sideline. Andy Reid was openly critical of the officiating.

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Speaker 2: You get sense the frustration all around this operation.

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Speaker 8: I never use any of this as excuses, but normally

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Speaker 1: Wow, So and yeah, that is strong.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that you get fined for that

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Speaker 2: maybe and if you do, read can handle that.

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Speaker 3: But that's yeah in a row.

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Speaker 2: Now were the Chiefs that feel like they're on the

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Speaker 2: wrong end of a pivotal officiating in the game. But

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Speaker 2: once more, guys, you can't just look at the officials

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Speaker 2: with the Chiefs because at the end of the day

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Speaker 2: in their building, it was the other team's quarterback that

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Speaker 2: you remember the plays, and it was the Chiefs scoring

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Speaker 2: seventeen points. This is just who they are and they

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Speaker 2: can't figure it out, and it's the wide receivers over

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Speaker 2: and over and over and over.

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Speaker 1: Kill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say with the Chiefs that when they had

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Speaker 4: that Week one meltdown against the Lions, season starting not

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Speaker 4: we were given evidence that the whole internal whiteout crew

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Speaker 4: is not going to be what you'd wanted. Maybe, and

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Speaker 4: Tony obviously stood out in that one. And you have

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Speaker 1: But it's not just him.

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Speaker 4: It's like these this cast of wideouts around Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: You thought by now they developed, they'd be somewhere else,

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Speaker 4: Like someone would have stepped up Tony when the All

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Speaker 6: He's on that. He was off the field the next

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you had a feel, you feel for him

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Speaker 2: are one game up on the Broncos now in the division.

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Speaker 2: It's it's getting into a very weird place, unprecedented in

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Speaker 5: And yet they still have a chance at the one seat.

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Speaker 5: It'd be it'd be pretty hard. They're back too.

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Speaker 1: But they keep telling us, though, Greg, that they're not

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Speaker 6: I don't get it right. I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just looking at what the Ravens Dolphins, who

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Speaker 5: is wide open. Rashie Rice has stepped up, and you

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Speaker 5: know you're getting on me Dan in the newsroom for

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Speaker 5: pointing out I've been saying that, you know, Rice isn't

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Speaker 3: Can't do that with a lot of prompts.

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Speaker 5: That that catch he made on the last drive around

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Speaker 5: great throat, beautiful, great catch in that scenario, and that

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Speaker 5: He is very different than Leslie Frazier. He continued to

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Speaker 6: And I choose to believe because I was kind of

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Speaker 5: I just I keep thinking this Bill's team is better

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Speaker 5: I choose to believe Josh Allen would have gone down

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Speaker 2: The game was not over. And maybe if you look

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Speaker 1: He's got his personal interest in this.

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Speaker 4: Can we celebrate We're watching football like the Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: In this, I do think the play calling switch worked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so weird to see Mahomes that angry like he is.

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Speaker 2: But this is a lot of things you're seeing that

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Speaker 2: It's strange to watch this team in that money spot

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Speaker 2: to instead of think what we've always thought, Oh nice

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Speaker 1: So that's where they are. Let's keep moving.

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Speaker 2: Great start, fun game, but it wasn't the game of

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Speaker 1: That was in Baltimore.

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Speaker 11: Pathan Evans, it's punning the Tyland Wallace.

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Speaker 1: Eavan's hang to a wobbler Walla.

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Speaker 11: Settles under to twenty five, gets a block, comes out

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Speaker 1: In a Cordy tell us, come on, hell he tackles.

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Speaker 9: Come celebration time, No fuge wus in the end zone,

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Speaker 1: Over time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a walk off punt return. It's only happened twice

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Speaker 3: Three mistackles on that. Anyway, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Well, his first game ever boys returning punts as a pro,

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Speaker 1: I know it's confusing, but that's the way it is.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: The game winner came following a wild end to regulation

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Speaker 2: in the end Greg they found away the Ravens, which

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Speaker 2: is progress, I think, because this felt like the type

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Speaker 1: Not this time.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: When the Rams got the ball in overtime after the

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Speaker 2: How about first and ten at the thirtieth right at

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Rams are going to win this game.

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Speaker 5: And the Ravens found a way to do it, and

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Speaker 5: fantastic game. We're gonna watch it for our Game of

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Speaker 6: So there is a lot to dig into.

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Speaker 5: And yet in a game like this sometimes it really

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Speaker 5: does come down to special teams. Devin DuVernay got injured

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Speaker 5: Wallace was the punt returner. And Harba said he thought

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Speaker 5: and their kick returns, I mean, their kicker, Justin Tucker

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Speaker 6: Hell yeah, hit some big kicks in tough conditions.

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Speaker 5: And then the special teams stole them a game to

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Speaker 4: And the way that the game started at that was

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Speaker 4: you had the Isaiah Likely fIF four yard touchdown. Odell

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Speaker 5: But they finished so strong, and that's why this game

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Speaker 2: Like this is the guy that Lamar has been looking

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Speaker 6: Call right yeah, coming in.

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Speaker 2: It's usually the chargers of the rams on my radio,

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Speaker 1: Here you go.

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Speaker 14: It's here, second down and goal from the five.

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Speaker 11: Has a snap helmet high looking left now middle pressure.

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Speaker 15: He steps up, he throwze right side end zone.

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Speaker 2: That's, by the way, I said on Thursday that I

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Speaker 2: Long with that call, and it is interesting. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: It was just him making plays.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like the play calling or just the vibe

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Speaker 6: Like what about Stafford? It's like, I don't know.

446
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Speaker 5: It's been happening more than any to them, more than

447
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 5: any other team since the moment they got there. So

448
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 5: it's just like this one little bugaboo, the game management

449
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 5: stuff and the like taking a while to get the

450
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Speaker 5: play and and it killed them the next play that

451
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Speaker 5: their tight end dropped a pass too that maybe wouldn't

452
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Speaker 5: have gone for a first down.

453
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Speaker 6: And then the next play is.

454
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Speaker 4: Are they like I've mis seeing someone on their staff.

455
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Speaker 4: You think that would be like, don't do this right now?

456
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Speaker 4: Do this instead?

457
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Speaker 6: No, I think it's just McVeigh gets caught up in

458
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Speaker 6: the moment. That's what happened. They had to burn a

459
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Speaker 6: time out.

460
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Speaker 5: He got caught up in the moment on the on

461
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Speaker 5: a play before uh and then like the play call

462
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Speaker 5: doesn't come in in time.

463
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Speaker 2: Maybe they think maybe they should hire a guy that's

464
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Speaker 2: great at close situations, late timing and knows how to

465
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Speaker 2: pick guys for special teams, like maybe if you get out, yeah,

466
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Speaker 2: see two birds, one stone, right, There's got to be

467
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Speaker 2: somebody out there.

468
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Speaker 1: Monster dot Com could find that person.

469
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Speaker 2: Shout out to Cooper cup by the way eight for

470
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Speaker 2: one fifteen in a touchdown.

471
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Speaker 3: He had been under fifty yards receiving in six straight games.

472
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Speaker 5: And he was awesome. A lot of the yards were

473
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Speaker 5: after the catch. Puko is awesome. Nikua is just like.

474
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Speaker 6: Kyron Williams was awesome. They almost they went away from

475
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Speaker 6: the run to it.

476
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Speaker 1: They start almost fainted just right.

477
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Speaker 4: What No, I just like trying to watch all these games,

478
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Speaker 4: but yeah, I saw the one catching made. I'm just

479
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 4: like this guy like has doesn't have a bad game.

480
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Speaker 4: He doesn't disappear, he doesn't.

481
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Speaker 5: They they ran about seven or eight straight times to

482
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Speaker 5: start the game to get inside of ten, and then

483
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Speaker 5: they got a little pass happy after that one injury

484
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Speaker 5: to watch Kyle Hamilton, to me, who is the most

485
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Speaker 5: important player on the Ravens defense? Maybe except rokwand Smith,

486
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Speaker 5: but it's the two of them. He left with the

487
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Speaker 5: knee injury, and just the the way Harbaugh talked about

488
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Speaker 5: the MRI to come, that's something to watch.

489
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Speaker 2: Oh, we got to get like a fainting chair the

490
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Speaker 2: next time we do a RAMS game, Mark had the vapors.

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Speaker 4: There for so I mean I would say typically I

492
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Speaker 4: survived RAMS recaps with without many issues.

493
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Speaker 1: But showed up. Ah, that's one talented That is how

494
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Speaker 1: I actually speak.

495
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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving. Let's head to San Francisco

496
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Speaker 2: where the Niner are just inevitable.

497
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Speaker 13: Stirred down at eleven here and he sent Deebo inside

498
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Speaker 13: of branded a Yuk right Kittle inside of Juwan jennings

499
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Speaker 13: Laft McCaffrey goes in motion that bumper motion upright blitz

500
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Speaker 13: from Bobby Wagner.

501
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Speaker 1: They pick it up.

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Speaker 6: You've got Rock Perty's going downfield for Tabo, sad friend Cisco.

503
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Speaker 1: Mind what an MVP race we got now about that?

504
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: Well, it's between Lamar and Purdy and we're gonna talk

505
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Speaker 2: about Sunday night football to combatants in the mix there.

506
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Speaker 1: It's really starting to heat up here.

507
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Speaker 2: Great call Greg Papa as always, and Rock Purdy was

508
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Speaker 2: in his bag once more with a career high three

509
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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight yards passing Deebo. Samuel, who's as

510
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Speaker 2: productive as any player in football right now, scored two

511
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Speaker 2: more touchdowns, including that long TD strike.

512
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Speaker 3: Kittle had a long touchdown catch.

513
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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey quietly goes over one hundred and forty five

514
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Speaker 2: yards rushing, and the Niners win twenty eight to sixteen

515
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Speaker 2: over the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Mark, you watch this game closely.

517
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Speaker 2: Not even a perfect outing by the Niners, but they're

518
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Speaker 2: so good that they don't.

519
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Speaker 1: Have to be.

520
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of won it in a a typical

521
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: fashion for some of these Shanahan outings on offense, because

522
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: it seems absurd to suggest they didn't have like an

523
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: excellent clean outing on the day. They had five hundred

524
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Speaker 4: and twenty seven yards. Oh stop, okay in twenty eight points,

525
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Speaker 4: So there's.

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Speaker 6: But that's good.

527
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Speaker 1: That's eight plays.

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Speaker 4: Of twenty five plus yards that they ate up two

529
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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty total. And it's like something about all

530
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Speaker 4: of them right now are operating at like a level

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Speaker 4: beyond human, like they were all in sync. It's like

532
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Speaker 4: I think at other parts in the season you kind

533
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Speaker 4: of had Debo was hurt for a bit, you'd have

534
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Speaker 4: guys disappear for a little bit, like George Kittle. They're

535
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Speaker 4: all right now on fire. I mean the throw to

536
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Speaker 4: Deebo Samuel. Chris McCaffrey opens the game with a seventy

537
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Speaker 4: two yard run that sets up a touchdown. Brandon you

538
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Speaker 4: is catching a forty five yard bomb, George Kittle out

539
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 4: of forty four yard catch off a laser.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Perty is making.

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Speaker 4: These throws and he's making them beautifully, and there're some

542
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Speaker 4: incredible stuff happening. But they were able early on in

543
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Speaker 4: the game. They came out with the touchdown triggered by

544
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: that McCaffrey long run. Then it was a punt, another punt,

545
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Speaker 4: brock Purty at an interception, and it was like Seattle

546
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: was hanging around and you were like getting maybe not

547
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Speaker 4: the best version of the Niner.

548
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Speaker 3: Trew Lock, not Gino, who is inactive in this game.

549
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Speaker 4: Absolutely Gino sitting from the sideline, and Locke wasn't like

550
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Speaker 4: a huge problem early. He threw two interceptions in the

551
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Speaker 4: final fourteen minutes or something, But the Niners worked their

552
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Speaker 4: way out of it, not with you know, a fourteen

553
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Speaker 4: play type drive, but this time around like three four

554
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Speaker 4: five play drives capped by massive explosive plays. So I

555
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 4: don't know, it just showed me another way they can

556
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Speaker 4: handle their business. And it's like, this is the one.

557
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Speaker 5: Team that is just blowing people away, right if the

558
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: closest thing we can find a problem of their disjointed

559
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 5: offense is like, well, they're only good at other than that,

560
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 5: you're not great except for the eight twenty five yard plays.

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Speaker 5: It's just like a crazy amount of explosive.

562
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Speaker 4: There's no way to describe it without sounding absurd excective.

563
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Speaker 4: I think you go watch it from wire to wire

564
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Speaker 4: on was.

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Speaker 1: A little rough.

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Speaker 6: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: What I mean by that is like, even on days

568
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: where you do some good things defensively, they're gonna hit

569
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Speaker 5: you for those explosives. And this matchup is just it

570
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Speaker 5: actually used to favor the Seahawks early in the Shanahan

571
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Speaker 5: era before Rock Purty showed up, and even a little

572
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Speaker 5: bit I think three years ago, but now it's one

573
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 5: way traffic. The forty nine Ers have absolutely destroyed them

574
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Speaker 5: five straight times the last two years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Seahawks are obviously going in the wrong direction.

576
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Seattles lost four straight games so the first time in

577
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Speaker 2: fourteen years under Pete Carroll they've lost five and rod.

578
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Speaker 1: To the Niners.

579
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Speaker 2: And DK Metcalf gets running this game for you know,

580
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: a fight.

581
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Speaker 1: Later in the game, he starts.

582
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Speaker 2: Out Buddy slams someone yeah, red hot with a touchdown

583
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: that got him ahead early. And then you know, again

584
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Speaker 2: like you're talking about the Kansas City that frustration especially,

585
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Speaker 2: you know, you get into mid December some these teams

586
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Speaker 2: where things aren't going the way they were expecting and

587
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: it boils over and you so metcal Yeah, I.

588
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Speaker 4: Think that's you know, that's been part and parcel with

589
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: the Metcalf experience. But I would imagine, like Dan, if

590
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Speaker 4: I body slammed you at our workplace, there'd be cameras

591
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: somewhere to catch it. But on an NFL field it

592
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: would be NFL field, though it's like you're not getting

593
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: away like this.

594
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Speaker 6: See that.

595
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Speaker 2: I'd like to see the attempt even on that. Yeah, maybe,

596
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Speaker 2: like you know, maybe if he's high on speed or something.

597
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Speaker 3: I don't know anything else from this game, Mark not really.

598
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Speaker 4: I will say there was this incredible Mitch Wasnowski. It

599
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 4: wasn't set up to be a fake punt. I don't

600
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Speaker 4: believe in terms of like the play call because it

601
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 4: seemed to kind of surprise other Niners.

602
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Speaker 1: But he just saw an open field.

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Speaker 4: They were up fourteen to ten at the point in

604
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Speaker 4: the third quarter, and he bolted for thirty yards but it.

605
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Speaker 1: Was taken away by a penalty.

606
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Speaker 4: But I wish it had stayed it was would have

607
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: been another big explosive play for them.

608
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Speaker 5: Just for listeners that are yeah, it was a cool play.

609
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Speaker 5: That's fine. He just he did it on his own, though.

610
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 5: I'm glad we got in the show. Otherwise it was

611
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: never going to be lost in the.

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Speaker 1: Sands of time, yes, and the dustpin of history.

613
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Speaker 2: It would have gone if you were someone like that,

614
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: you know, listen to our preview show and certainly the

615
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: Thursday riec I mean you might be be like, why

616
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: was Gino Smith not playing in this game? He was

617
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: completely healthy and he heard his growing during practice. I

618
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: want to find out what happened during practice there on

619
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: Thursday and did not play, and that obviously that could

620
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Speaker 2: change their season a little bit if that turned out,

621
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Speaker 2: I mean long term injury.

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Speaker 1: If Greg is surprised by something that happened to Gino

623
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Speaker 1: Smith's growing, you know, he's digging in, he's going to

624
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: find out, he's on the beat, He'll find out.

625
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: Great party quote here, by the way, that shows both

626
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: a level of awareness and also a reminder of what's

627
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: going on here. This is from the ap righte up

628
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: of the game. I'm part of a special group. Any

629
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Speaker 2: of our guys, any one of our guys, any one

630
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: of our eligibles, you get the ball in their hands

631
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Speaker 2: and then they do the rest.

632
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Speaker 5: Yeah, McCaffrey one hundred and fifty three yards even he's

633
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: an MVP candidate, mccaffe free.

634
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Speaker 1: Potentially, they are an incredible team.

635
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: It's just uh, let's see if they can you. Yeah, like,

636
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: he's like the fifth I you mentioned of this game,

637
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: and he went for one to twenty six.

638
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: Well, they're box scor is insane. Yeah, every week I

639
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: had Warner too. It's just crazy.

640
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 6: All right.

641
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: He did suffer some injuries in the secondary. But we

642
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: can discuss.

643
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: Well, that could have been your last point.

644
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: Shavarius Ward went down. Uh is this a redo with

645
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: the last point?

646
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: Do we should we take.

647
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 6: The last point?

648
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: Drake Greenlaw went down. That could be an actually tag

649
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: on to my.

650
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 5: St and you started your previous last pay by saying no.

651
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Speaker 6: But then you made that other point.

652
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: That I won't say a single other word though, done

653
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: anything else, nothing else. Once we leave, we can't come

654
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: back nothing else from me on this about this.

655
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Cleveland. Haws that go Margie, Are you

656
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: like that intriguing? It was quite a day, big Mannish

657
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: playing with the football.

658
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 10: On the t Here we go for the on side,

659
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 10: can't He dumps the ball on the right side.

660
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 6: The Browns are on it. They got it.

661
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: They got it on the right side. They recover the ball.

662
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 10: It's getting it is James Prochet and the Browns can

663
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 10: get into victory formation with a minute thirty.

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Speaker 6: Two and what a long afternoon? This has bad?

665
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: Wait, this is out, Jim.

666
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Speaker 6: This was smooth sailing the whole the Cleveland.

667
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: Browns and on sidekick recovery.

668
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the game rare. You can change it,

669
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 6: change things up.

670
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: It's good, all right. They flagged that for.

671
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Me next time. Eric, all right, I thought it was.

672
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: As it talks about how it is an on sidekick recovery,

673
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: it's sealed.

674
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: To the game by the team that was being kicked to.

675
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: It's sealed the victory factually.

676
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave David Joku scores two touchdowns in this game.

677
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: We can get that Joe Flacco playing out of his mind.

678
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: He can't get the highlight. Brown's thirty one twenty seven

679
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: over the Jags. Come on, ar give one of those

680
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: guys systog. Yeah Flacco, not a Fluco.

681
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Not a Fluco.

682
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: To serve the highlight, He's thrown for five sixty five

683
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: and five touchdowns and two starts Bleveland.

684
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: It has to be the hope in an unlikely place

685
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: this holiday season.

686
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: It has to be one of the more like improbable

687
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: quarterback because of who it is, and because of what

688
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco did to the Browns for so long, and

689
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: because of how he didn't get a call to work

690
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 4: with any other team this entire year until everything burned

691
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: down in Cleveland. And to assume that we'd get the

692
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: guy that we even saw last time, who couldn't move,

693
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: who seemed out of sorts, who was just like a

694
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: shell of the former Joe Flacco, And like I am

695
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: saying today, i'm watching him through I don't really remember

696
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: a Brown's quarterbacking performance in recent years like this at all.

697
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: It's like they really just found this version of Joe

698
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: Flacco that suddenly this was their most complete win.

699
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: This was a weird game.

700
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: It had thirty four possessions, There were fifty passes in

701
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: the first half. The Viking game was like we were

702
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 4: a quarter into the Vikings game in the late window

703
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: and the Browns game was still going on. They got

704
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: just enough from everyone, but you did get a star

705
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: turn from David d Djoku And I know has been

706
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: your guy.

707
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: He's been. He was frustrating last week. He was frustrating

708
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: last week.

709
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: But today, honestly, I think he showed what he is

710
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: when he's successful, is like a powerful steam engine who

711
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: like stiff arms someone and just rolled into the end

712
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: zone on a huge touchdown.

713
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: He's very physically talented. He really is.

714
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 4: Their defense, which has been like hot and cold. I

715
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: think of late that the Rams put it on him,

716
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: but when they're at home, they're a different unit. And

717
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, who looked pretty healthy to me, like I

718
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: was thinking what version I ran it? He moved around,

719
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 4: He ran a bunch. He was harassed from wire to

720
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: wire until the very end when they did start to

721
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: come back and move the ball a bunch.

722
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: And that's why I do.

723
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: Think, and I know I'm not gonna get you to

724
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 4: agree this, but like that, I really, for some reason

725
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: thought like another Browns team because their record to me

726
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: doesn't quite match up with who they are.

727
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I can't really figure out how the five.

728
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: That's the thing, and it feels like, you know, it's

729
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: been up and down, but like they they really never

730
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: really relented, and I see a secondary that plays total confidence.

731
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: They picked them off a bunch. They sacked them a bunch.

732
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 4: It wasn't even like the biggest game from Miles Garrett

733
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: on the planet. They have a bunch of injuries. They

734
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: Grant Delpit, who they signed to an extension, got hurt.

735
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: You know that that feels very brownsish, But they took

736
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 4: her a business against a Jaguars team that should win

737
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: their division.

738
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: How many possessions did he say, we're in this game

739
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: thirty four.

740
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: That's got three hours and forty eight minutes of football.

741
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, I went what it's crazy?

742
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 5: I went big on like the whole Chiefs played well

743
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 5: last week per possession offensively, they only love it. They

744
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: only got seven Like per possession they were, you know,

745
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: one of the best offenses.

746
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 6: Of the of the week.

747
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 5: This game, these two offenses played like two complete games

748
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 5: compared to that Packers Chiefs game. For instance, they played

749
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 5: two games worth of possessions to get to this number.

750
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: So I guess that informs the Flacco numbers. But I

751
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: don't care that some of the stats are just crazy.

752
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 5: He's the first Browns quarterback since Brian Sipe in nineteen

753
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 5: eighty to throw three touchdowns of over thirty yards in

754
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: the same game.

755
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 6: That makes me feel special.

756
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 5: You know how they always have that Brown's T shirt

757
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 5: where it would be all the quit. Now they're gonna

758
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to start a new jersey. It's Brown's

759
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 5: quarterbacks under Kevin Stefanski that have outplayed Deshaun Watson. I mean,

760
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 5: it's getting long. We got Baker in twenty twenty, we

761
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: got Flacco this year, we got Jacoby Brissette.

762
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 6: For all of last year, we've.

763
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: Held let's throw in the case Keenum couple starts where

764
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 5: he won, Like.

765
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 6: It's getting long. It's insane. That's the fans.

766
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: He keeps taking these guys and at least for stretches

767
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 5: like gets them playing at a very high.

768
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he deserves some credit and it should

769
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: be no surprise. But like you know, they they announced

770
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: that Flacco obviously would be the start of the rest

771
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: of the way.

772
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: They kept doing this thing with whoever was going to

773
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: be their starter.

774
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 4: Flacco spent last week on the practice squad Like if

775
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm not like I believe I'm correct with this. Like

776
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: another the Jets could have come snatched Flacco off a

777
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: practice squad and made them their starter.

778
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Like it just seemed like a bit of a hazardous.

779
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 6: I believe at that point, yeah, they could have.

780
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Is that concern me that would be a strategy that

781
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: we'd employed at this point.

782
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: I think that happened with John Wolford earlier this season.

783
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: I believe in the Bucks decided to match it. But

784
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 5: that is crazy that they they they aren't going to

785
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 5: do the week to week thing anymore.

786
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: No, he is. He's embedded now.

787
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: But it's tough luck for DTR, who actually was playing

788
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 5: okay and then he did lose it to injury.

789
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: DTR came in and had like a very critical, like

790
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: chain moving run where they then they had Flacco jogg

791
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 4: bat out so they don't go not expecting Flacco to

792
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: run around the field too much.

793
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 6: And you look pretty good.

794
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 5: Any concerns here about the Jags, who now I've given

795
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 5: up twenty seven points or thirty one points to Flacco,

796
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 5: whatever they gave up last week to Jake Browning. You know,

797
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: they lucked out with the rest of the division results today,

798
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 5: But this defense doesn't looks.

799
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: As I mean, they got in the last six days,

800
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: they got beat by the Cincinnati backup and then like

801
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: the third quarterback on the depth Charter fourth for the Browns.

802
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, when they are not hosting

803
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: playoff games or you know they're in a perilous situation

804
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: come January, it's because they stumbled at this portion of

805
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: the schedules. You know, in credit to Trevor Lawrence for

806
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: you know, competing in this game and from what I saw,

807
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: was moving well. And finally, the Evan Ingram connection is

808
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: bearing fruit. He had eleven catches for ninety five and

809
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: two touchdowns in this game. But you know, Flamreeau gives

810
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: them a little the Browns instead of like being like

811
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: what a shame that they don't have any chance because

812
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: they have these bad qbs and this defense.

813
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: That's being asked to do so much. Now the offense

814
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: has a little life to it.

815
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 6: It's a fun story.

816
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 2: Do you could block for Flacco? He shown at thirty

817
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: eight years old he can move an offense. They looked,

818
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: they looked different. This is one of the first complete

819
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: games in a while.

820
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 5: Mark's back. I mean, he said, well, I would say

821
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 5: this like we in there. I missed that you were

822
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 5: there for the Wii. He said something about we, like

823
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 5: I don't.

824
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: I hate having to clarify this because then I get

825
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: a bunch of tweets from people it's like, why did

826
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 4: you change your stance on the Browns? Like I completely

827
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 4: disagree with the Browns signing Deshaun Watson on any level.

828
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: He's not in our lives right now, and from a

829
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: just a watching football that's enjoyable or teams that are

830
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: weird in a really strange season, like Flacco being the

831
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: Browns quarterback, like at this point is one of.

832
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: The weirder sports stories of this Year's enough.

833
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 5: To be clear, I love it you were. You were

834
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: enjoying this game as a fan, and that's great.

835
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 4: I was apparently I picked the wrong like I didn't like.

836
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 4: What I enjoyed was not do we have another highlight?

837
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: Is there anything we could do? This is eating me?

838
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 6: You know the call.

839
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 5: The call was pretty good because it talked about what

840
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 5: a long day it was. It was a nice little summer.

841
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: That's like he captured because they were calculating they almost

842
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: blew that game, and he's like the other ways you

843
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: got to go back to like you know, the early

844
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: fourth or something.

845
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Okay, you're all wrong. I'm right post it note on

846
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: the computer show the joke on your on your fantas.

847
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: He's not. But I'm a big.

848
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 6: Fan of you could have gotten to David Bell touchdown

849
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 6: in the fourth.

850
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: Gotta give Flacco the highlight. Well here's my thing. How

851
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: about next week when he does it again?

852
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 2: Ooh it spoken like I like it? All right, let's

853
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: take a break.

854
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to recover from that recovery and we will

855
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: roll on with our stop.

856
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: Yes, Nick Schulke, all right, welcome back.

857
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: It's time now for the Sunday Drive presented by the

858
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: first ever Toyota Highlander and uh let's head to Cincinnati,

859
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: where the Bengals said, we are relevant.

860
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 12: Second down in goal, inches away, the Bengals already up

861
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 12: by seven. Now Browning moves under center. He has Mixing

862
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 12: five yards behind him. Browning will try to sneak it in.

863
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 12: Mix In shot him in the back into.

864
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 6: The end zone.

865
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 12: Touchdown Bengals and Cincinnati has a.

866
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: Two TD lead. Dan Horde wk why with the call.

867
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 16: Jake Browning as that dog existing within him, The twenty

868
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 16: seven year old played like a star for the second

869
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 16: time in six days, throwing two touchdown passes, rushing for

870
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 16: another score in the Bengals beat.

871
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: Up on the Colts thirty four to fourteen.

872
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: Let's now welcome in a man who could beat up

873
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: on a lot of people if he chose to. But

874
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: he's not a man of violence. He doesn't throw hands, Mark,

875
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: but he will if he must.

876
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: If he needed to, But he doesn't. It's not out

877
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 4: of pocket that he just could do that left and right.

878
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: That's a special kind of power. I won't beat you,

879
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: but just know that I can. Nick Shook the pipe,

880
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: Welcome aboard, buddy.

881
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 17: With great power comes great responsibility, and I exercise plenty

882
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 17: of responsibility in conflict situations.

883
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

884
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: What's going on in those Cleveland you know, those those

885
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: clubs and bars. I'm sure sometimes they see a guy

886
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: like Shook, you know, six foot eight, two seventy five,

887
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: carved out of the side of a mountain, and they say,

888
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna show what.

889
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: A man I am. Yeah, I'm going to use him

890
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: to lift myself up. That has ever happened to you?

891
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 17: Dix A two seventy five reads like an overblown college

892
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 17: bio let's do let's do six four sixty three and

893
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 17: flirting with sixty four two thirty two thirty five.

894
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Let's go with that.

895
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: You know, I'm very concerned of late about like child gangs,

896
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: which is a prevalent radar. He could, I like shook

897
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 4: just because he could take out an entire child gang

898
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 4: and they deserve it that if they can business child is.

899
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 14: This like child gangs?

900
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 17: Like pickpockets like you're worried about, you know, a group

901
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 17: of cockeye pickpockets coming inround.

902
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 4: It's like the violence ranges and the what their quest

903
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 4: is ranges, but they're criminal in nature.

904
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. Uh Browning again looking good?

905
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, real good. Uh that that was not a

906
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: fluke on Monday night much too?

907
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 14: Uh, you know, the we all thought it was probably

908
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 14: gonna be a fluke.

909
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 17: And then he comes out and executes the offense efficiently

910
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 17: once again, Zach Taylor doing a great job coaching up.

911
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 17: You know, a nice little mix of screens, the running

912
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 17: games going, everything's balanced out and allowing Browning to just

913
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 17: do what he's asked to do. And then he mixed

914
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 17: in the big plays. Started the second half with a

915
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 17: few deep passes, He had a beauty down the sideline

916
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 17: to t Higgins.

917
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 14: Everything was just cooking.

918
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 17: On this offensive side of the ball for the Bengals,

919
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 17: who you know, this is a team that we thought

920
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 17: they were headed toward a dark winter once they lost

921
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 17: Joe Burrow, and now suddenly they got belief, legitimate belief

922
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 17: and hope that they just might make the playoffs, to

923
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 17: the point where you might not even want to be

924
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 17: somebody who faces them because they still have a championship

925
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 17: roster outside of quarterback, and their quarterbacks doing his job

926
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 17: quite well.

927
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 14: The win over the.

928
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 17: Colts today, like this is a cold scene that we

929
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 17: know has probably overachieved to get to this point, considering

930
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 17: they've had Gardner Minshew a quarterback, you know, for the

931
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 17: most of the season. But the win today felt emphatic

932
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 17: for the Bengals and the fact that they blew a

933
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 17: fourteen nothing lead rather quickly just before the half, and

934
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 17: instead of you know, accepting that, hey, we have a

935
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 17: backup quarterback here, they came out firing and before you

936
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 17: knew it, it's twenty eight fourteen Bengals in the lead

937
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 17: and then eventually in control of a game that they

938
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 17: just look.

939
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 14: Like the better team.

940
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: I think one of the great things is like they

941
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 4: didn't have to go change their offense to tailored around

942
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: you know, Browning's like limitations. It's like this looks like

943
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: a Joe Burrow offense, and it's like there's a lot

944
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: of stuff happening. I'm not calling him Joe Burrow on

945
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: any level, but like you're the QB index guy, Like,

946
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: where would you put him right now?

947
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Like what do you do with someone like that?

948
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 17: Well, we're facing a little bit of a battle of

949
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 17: Ohio right now between backup quarterbacks because Joe Flacco and

950
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 17: Jake Brownie are both playing relatively out of their minds

951
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 17: considering what we expect if backup quarterbacks.

952
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 12: Now.

953
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 17: Flacco, you know, being a former starter, probably has a

954
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 17: higher level of expectation, but.

955
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 14: He is thirty eight years old.

956
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 17: So Browning and Flacco are both at the top of

957
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 17: the backups group, and they're actually out performing some starters

958
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 17: in the league right now, and a handful of those guys.

959
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 14: It's going to be an interesting week for QB Index.

960
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 17: A lot of movement, a lot of performances that we

961
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 17: probably didn't expect. But I'm excited to kind of dig

962
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 17: in on that and Browning. You know, you don't want

963
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 17: to put too much stock in a win on the

964
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 17: road over the Jaguars on prime time, But now that

965
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 17: we've seen him do it a couple times in a row,

966
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 17: now you got to take him seriously from here on out.

967
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 17: This is not just a one game, fly by night

968
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 17: type of thing. And now I'm really in to see

969
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 17: if he can do this for the last four weeks

970
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 17: of the season the Bengals gonna get in the playoffs,

971
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 17: is Jake brown At gonna be the guy it's worth watching.

972
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: They're one of the six seven and six teams right now,

973
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: and now they have a tiebreaker over the Colts, they

974
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: have a tiebreaker over the Bills. You know, it really

975
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: is a credit to Zach Taylor and that staff and

976
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: the fact that when the game got tight again and

977
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: maybe we saw it against the Jaguars as well, like

978
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: they trust Browning, and like what you're saying, they were

979
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: attacking with a backup quarterback. Where you see coaches all

980
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: the time when they have a quarterback they don't trust,

981
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: or a backup quarterback they you know, they throw out

982
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: half the playbook and you end up with a very

983
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: stilted offense.

984
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: But apparently that's not the case here.

985
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 10: No.

986
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 17: I mean two hundred and seventy five passing yards on

987
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 17: eighteen completions. He only had to throw the ball twenty

988
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 17: four times, and yet it felt like they really controlled

989
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 17: this game.

990
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 14: He's just completely in rhythm. He looks comfortable.

991
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 17: And I don't know if this is a microcosm of

992
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 17: the way Zach Taylor coaches his offenses, because what he

993
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 17: looked like to me, even going back a few weeks

994
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 17: ago when they played Pittsburgh and right after the Ravens

995
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 17: loss when they play Pittsburgh, I thought, man, he looks

996
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 17: a lot like Joe Burrow did way back in week

997
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 17: two of Burrow's rookie season when they played in Cleveland

998
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 17: in prime time. And I'm sitting there thinking, man, this

999
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 17: kid's got no experience, yet he looks really calm and confident.

1000
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 14: That's kind of what brown does.

1001
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 17: Obviously he doesn't have the same physical tools that Joe

1002
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 17: Burrow does, but you know, it's a beautiful partnership between

1003
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 17: coach and quarterback right now, and Browning is just playing

1004
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 17: as somebody who knows he doesn't have to be the hero,

1005
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 17: probably isn't capable of being the hero and is totally

1006
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 17: fine with that. He's just gonna take what is given

1007
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 17: or is what is asked of him, and it's working

1008
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 17: really well right now.

1009
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 5: They're also getting contributions in a way they just weren't

1010
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 5: with Burrow. For the most part, they run for over

1011
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 5: one hundred yard Chase Brown literally wasn't on the field

1012
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 5: ever with Burrow, and he has a second straight big game.

1013
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 5: He goes for over one hundred yards from the scrimmage.

1014
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: And then their defense, which has been a sieve for

1015
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: most of the season, has its best day of the

1016
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 5: year in terms of yards allowed. They only give up

1017
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: fourteen points. They get involved in turnovers too, So it

1018
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: does feel like the Higgins has a couple of downfield plays,

1019
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: as you mentioned like, it does feel like the rest

1020
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: of the team is showing a little bit more of

1021
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 5: what we expected coming into the year around their quarterback,

1022
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: and that does make them dangerous. Although these two teams

1023
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 5: I feel like, I don't know, I feel like they

1024
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: might be on if I had the guests that they

1025
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 5: both be on the outside looking in once we get

1026
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 5: to Yeah, I agree, but we'll.

1027
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 3: Agree Cincinnati winless in their division.

1028
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: Still, that's really hurt them, so they're in a bad

1029
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: tiebreaker spot, so they got to keep winning.

1030
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Anything about the cults that you wanted to throw in.

1031
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 14: There too many mistakes, too many penalties.

1032
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 17: They had a season high penalties with nine today accepted

1033
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 17: for sixty six yards a bad interception. Garder Mishue just

1034
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 17: under pressure a lot throughout the day. Bernd Ryman, the

1035
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 17: left tackle, got dominated by Trey Hendrickson.

1036
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 14: The matchup numbers are bad when it comes to pressures.

1037
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 14: I don't even want to read them.

1038
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: They're that bad.

1039
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 17: It's a team that I think they've already hit their ceiling,

1040
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 17: and if they can continue to play at that level,

1041
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 17: they'll make it interesting through the rest of the year.

1042
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 17: But games like today are going to happen because again,

1043
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 17: you do not have your star, future franchise quarterback on

1044
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 17: the field right now, and there's only so much you

1045
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 17: can do when you're running games not going and you're

1046
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 17: trying to dig yourself out of a hole.

1047
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 2: And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Let's

1048
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Go Places learn more at toyota dot com. Slash Grand Highlander,

1049
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Let's stay with Nick Shook and head to the desert

1050
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: for a game featuring two teams that will not be

1051
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: in the desert on Super Bowl Sunday.

1052
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: Freeze zero Minnesota.

1053
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: With let's keep it in the middle.

1054
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 6: The thirty four.

1055
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 18: Yard line and the Las Vegas Raiders Pop gone bust

1056
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 18: against the.

1057
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 10: Minnesota Vikings thanks.

1058
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 18: To Space Junior, and I've been with this first National

1059
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 18: Football League interception.

1060
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 6: Has knocked out the Raiders.

1061
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 18: And the Minnesota Vikings are gonna win three zero.

1062
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh yes, the Minnesota Vikings.

1063
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: You just don't even try to score on them because

1064
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: they're not gonna give you anything.

1065
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

1066
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: And all they needed was a field goal. So they say,

1067
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: we're not gonna get crazy. We're the team of ATN.

1068
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: We're not gonna over exert. We'll just kick a field

1069
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: goal in the final minute, in two minutes and we'll

1070
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: win three nothing. And that's what they did, beating the

1071
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: Raiders to improve to seven and six. And it is

1072
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: here's some data points.

1073
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: Let's give Dick Banks before.

1074
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: This is a very special mine. So yeah, there's reasons

1075
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: to be nervous about the Vikings as the team of

1076
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: ATN shooky because they're trending downward. Josh Dobbs after his

1077
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: Monday Night Nightmare against the Bears, comes back off a

1078
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: bye and is so abysmal that they pull him for

1079
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: Nick Mullins. In this game, who is the quarterback when

1080
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: they went on the field goal drive? Justin Jefferson finally

1081
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: comes back and then ends up in hospital during this

1082
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: game with a chest injury, so that certainly is concerning.

1083
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: But in the end they did find a way despite

1084
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: just two hundred and thirty total yards and those measly

1085
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: three points.

1086
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 17: Yeah, there was more juice in that theme song than

1087
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 17: there wasn't this game for either team.

1088
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 14: It was a tough watch.

1089
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 17: If you're a fan of defense, you might say, well,

1090
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 17: you know, this is a great game, but it was

1091
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 17: more product of bad offense than good defense. Now, the

1092
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 17: Raiders got after Josh Dobbs a ton. Josh Doabbs didn't

1093
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 17: help himself with the way that he sends pressure and

1094
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 17: kind of panicked. I totally understood why Kevin O'Connell went

1095
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 17: to Nick Mullens late. I was a little surprised, just

1096
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 17: because it was desperate. But again, it was a zero

1097
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 17: zero game in the last six minutes of the game,

1098
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 17: and you give credit to Nick Mullins because he converted

1099
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 17: a few third downs that Josh Dobbs probably wouldn't have converted,

1100
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 17: and that got them in field goal arranged to the

1101
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 17: only points of the game on the board. But the

1102
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 17: problem is is, like if this is the team of

1103
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 17: ATM right, like you just said, they're treading downward. I

1104
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 17: love the when the defense has played in parts. But

1105
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 17: my god, guys, they got a bad situation at quarterback.

1106
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 17: They're gonna go into the next week. We have to

1107
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 17: hear about it all week. Nick Mullins, Jaren Hall, Josh Dobbs,

1108
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 17: all of them are not great options. And it's a

1109
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 17: bummer to see the character arc of twenty twenty three

1110
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 17: for Josh Dobbs come to a crashing end. But we

1111
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 17: were trending this way for the last couple of weeks.

1112
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 14: It needed to be made. And I think if they're

1113
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 14: playing anybody other than the Raiders, what Patriots, they probably

1114
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 14: lose this.

1115
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: All right, let's come down here, because first of all,

1116
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: the Raiders have played a lot with Aidan O'Connell. This

1117
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 5: is easily the best defensive performance anyone's had about had them.

1118
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: Their defense is very good, like it's been a top

1119
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: ten defense.

1120
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 6: Second of all, they lose Justin Jack Gregg.

1121
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 5: They lose Justin Jefferson to a chest injury right away.

1122
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: He had two catches early in this game. Both of

1123
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 5: those two plays were high level plays by Josh Dobbs.

1124
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 5: It's funny how quarterbacks look better when they have an

1125
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: exceptional wide receiver.

1126
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 6: They lose their right tackle.

1127
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 5: I think a team captain Brian O'Neill, a Pro Bowl

1128
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 5: caliber guy. They lose a starting guard, Dalton Reiser during

1129
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 5: the game, and they find a way to win. Nick

1130
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: Mullins the old Mulldog, throwing some lollipops over to the sideline,

1131
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 5: but in between zone covers. There were some pretty clutch

1132
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 5: throws and they get out of there for a victory

1133
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 5: and maybe Jefferson's injuries.

1134
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 6: Some lollipops we called feathered, Okay, I don't know.

1135
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 5: They were just like You could see why Nick Moons

1136
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: has had the career he's had because he came in,

1137
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: he made great decisions.

1138
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 6: The game wasn't too big for him.

1139
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 5: You could also see the reason why he's had the

1140
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: creery is that because just the ball was just taken well,

1141
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: so there's you could use it. You move on to

1142
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 5: next week, you get Jefferson back. Well, they win beat

1143
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 5: some bad teams in the hospital, they said, they said,

1144
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 5: they don't think it's significant.

1145
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 6: He's on the plane coming. I think it's fair to.

1146
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 4: Say, like, depending on you know, I the beholder, that

1147
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: Nick is right. There is a trending down snare today.

1148
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: When your quarterback gets benched is a slight disaster? Was

1149
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 4: a disaster last week. We'll see what happens with the

1150
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: wide receiver. You've lost a bunch of offensive linemen. It's

1151
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: Laddison got hurt by the way in this game too.

1152
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 4: So he just scored three points in an NFL game.

1153
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 4: So I and and somehow won to the air up

1154
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: to the defense.

1155
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 5: No, you don't like to root for the team of

1156
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: ATL I'm just saying, is part of the package?

1157
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 6: Some crazy I.

1158
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: Don't I do like roots to them. I don't need

1159
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: to manufacture out of ten year on this one. I'm

1160
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: gonna wait and see mode with this team.

1161
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: How about this?

1162
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: If that doesn't do it for you, how about a

1163
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: lock a double lock.

1164
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Rosian Zeuser Combo two and L.

1165
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 14: This is the soundtrack to my nightmares.

1166
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even ask.

1167
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 5: At first, I didn't like this whole thing that you

1168
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: were jumping on with the lines. But I gotta say

1169
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 5: you're doing a good job as an offensive coordinator.

1170
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: There's more juice here than the Vikings now, and here's

1171
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: the spirit. Here's my spin on team of ATM because

1172
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: this is an emergency meeting because they Okay, they did win,

1173
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: but the juice is out of the bottle. So now

1174
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: we're at a low point and we see if they

1175
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: can somehow rediscover the magic. But we kind of picked

1176
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: them based on Dobbs being a funky guy to bring

1177
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: in their tenacity on defense justin Jefferson's eventual return, and

1178
00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: all that stuff except.

1179
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: For the defense has disappeared.

1180
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 2: I guess the lesson, maybe Mark is when you because

1181
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: the Lions was such a natural pick last year and

1182
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: we got to go on the whole ride with them,

1183
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: but even that started out poorly. Jumping on a team

1184
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: in the middle of the season is a big, big

1185
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: risk because the NFL season, despite being only seventeen games long,

1186
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: has so many like peaks and valleys. Beware of joining

1187
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: a team during a peak. Maybe there's another peak to come,

1188
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: but right now we're kind of in a valley.

1189
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: Even though they won they're not out of it on

1190
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: any level.

1191
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: Obviously, they're two and two with us, by the way,

1192
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: as the team of atails.

1193
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: That's so that's that. I think the record speaks for itself.

1194
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, Joshua tell Us with the big forst Foma.

1195
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: We've talked about him all year. He got an NFL

1196
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 5: Plus thing that was the biggest play in the game

1197
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 5: because that was the only time either team was in

1198
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 5: the red zone. And then Ive and Pace Nick, an

1199
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 5: undrafted rookie who's been easily the best rookie linebacker in

1200
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 5: the NFL. I would put a maybe top five or

1201
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 5: six defensive rookie of the year period. One of our guys,

1202
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 5: Spice racks favorite players thirteen sack and then the game

1203
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 5: winning pick. So they're getting good production from these random

1204
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 5: guys that we didn't know much about going.

1205
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: Into the season.

1206
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1207
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 17: I was gonna give a little shout out to Mattellus.

1208
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 17: He's been my favorite guy to watching this defense all year.

1209
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 17: It's a group that you looked at them on paper

1210
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 17: coming in the season, You're like, I just don't see it.

1211
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 17: On the defensive side of the ball, a lot of

1212
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 17: people are playing better than we anticipated them. I'm a

1213
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 17: pace being one of them. DJ Wanham's been a guy

1214
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 17: that has shown up in a number of games this

1215
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 17: year that I've really enjoyed watching him play. So I

1216
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 17: totally give them credit on the defensive side of the ball,

1217
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 17: and they got after Aidan O'Connell.

1218
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 14: They shut that offense down. It's just that, like we

1219
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 14: just discussed, I.

1220
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 17: Don't know, man, it feels like paper clips and chewing

1221
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 17: gum and the last month is a separation season. I

1222
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 17: just don't know what the quarterback situation, how it's gonna go.

1223
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 17: But a good win for them, and then if we

1224
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 17: if we do pivot to the Raiders. Part of the

1225
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 17: reason that Brian O'Neil ended up leaving with an injury

1226
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 17: is because he was getting ran over by Max Crosby.

1227
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: All he was awesome today.

1228
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 17: That Raiders defense was stifling throughout the afternoon until the

1229
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 17: fourth quarter. It's almost like he just asked them to

1230
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 17: do too much since the offense was I feel bad

1231
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 17: for them, yeah, I know, but because in that situation

1232
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 17: they had to get a stop.

1233
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 14: They couldn't get a stop.

1234
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 17: Here's the big question with the Raiders that I present

1235
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 17: to you guys now is look you have a month left.

1236
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 17: You already declared Aiden O'Connell's your best quarterback, your best option.

1237
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 17: But yet we know that you know he's had some moments,

1238
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 17: but he's probably not your long term answer. You have

1239
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 17: an interim head coach? How do you proceed through this

1240
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 17: last month? You're five and seven? What is there left

1241
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 17: to figure out? When everybody could be.

1242
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: Gone five and eight?

1243
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 6: You're just you're just playing out the string. There's not

1244
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 6: much to it.

1245
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get a nice little window intrigue here.

1246
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 6: I think you.

1247
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: Just take a deeper look at Antonio Pierce, who like

1248
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: has a supposedly chance to be a head coach.

1249
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: There was a twenty five minute meeting after the game

1250
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 5: that held up Antonio Pierce's press conference because Mark Davis

1251
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 5: was talking to Pierce and just the odds he was

1252
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: facing an extreme uphill battle to keep that job. And

1253
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 5: I guess that's the only intrigue, as if they could

1254
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 5: keep this going and win a few more games.

1255
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 2: But that's it, Jack, All right, Uh shooky, you said

1256
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: it all, Thanks Bud.

1257
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: Thanks, Well, you.

1258
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: Didn't ask the question. I had one question.

1259
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, have guys picked fights with you to try to

1260
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: prove that there are men for their buddies for girls

1261
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: or whatever.

1262
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Has it happened yet?

1263
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 14: Yes, until I stand up from the table.

1264
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 17: They approached me and then they kind of oh, hell yeah,

1265
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 17: oh yeah, that's the pipe.

1266
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: Baby. You got my back, I got yours, buddy, all right.

1267
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: Thanks Nick?

1268
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 14: All right, guys.

1269
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: Thanks.

1270
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: That's odd though, because like Nick's sitting down like at

1271
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: a booth with five other people. It's still really big,

1272
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 4: but like you wouldn't go pick him out of the Like,

1273
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 4: that's not how you be the guy walking around.

1274
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: It seems like, are you poking a hole of the story.

1275
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: I I just I have I have additional question. Literally,

1276
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: let's we're gonna ask him more. Okay, next week we'll do.

1277
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: Eric remind us that, okay, because by the time next

1278
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: Sunday and the time comes, it will literally feel like

1279
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: this conversation was seven years ago to the Soggy Metal

1280
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: Lands week go where Act was in the air gun

1281
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: for Zach Wilson.

1282
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 6: Hall to his left, There goes Gipson and motion.

1283
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 18: Wilson takes the snap, drops back, looks left, ros left,

1284
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 18: Paula in the inside.

1285
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: That's a jet touchdown. Police Hall walks in.

1286
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 6: Have a Jets answer hen't stretched the score to two leads.

1287
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Again now, and I think we'd hear the song again

1288
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: this year.

1289
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: Bob was choosing with the call Jets Radio. Like a

1290
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: phoenix rising from the ashes. Zach Wilson has returned the

1291
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: much beleaguered quarterback through for two second half touchdowns. He

1292
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 2: went over three hundred yards passing and his return from

1293
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 2: a bizarre two game benching, and the Jets beat down

1294
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: a Texans team that played like, you know, one of

1295
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: those dome teams that don't want anything to do with

1296
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: a rainy December afternoon in the Northeast. That's what the

1297
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: Texans looked like in this game. Thirty to six was

1298
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: the final, and it was the tale of two games,

1299
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: because boys, this one played out exactly like the game

1300
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: we just talked about for the first two quarters quarters

1301
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: these the Jets and Texans combined for eleven punts in

1302
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: a scoreless first half before New york erupts for three

1303
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 2: touchdowns and three field goals in the final two quarters.

1304
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: They scored thirty points in the final in the second half.

1305
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: The Jets so interesting Zach Wilson game because you see

1306
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: he made plays in the second half that you understand

1307
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: on some level why the Jets have been reticent to

1308
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: let go because they think they could there's one day

1309
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: someone unlocked in there now me and Connor Orr wrote

1310
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: something that I agreed with over on SI today. I

1311
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: think it more points out just how inconsistent Wilson is

1312
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: as a quarterback and that's never going to change, or

1313
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: at least not with the Jets. Maybe if you get

1314
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: him with a legitimate play caller elsewhere, he can develop

1315
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: in a different way. But this guy, and this was

1316
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: his third game of three hundred more yards, he has

1317
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: amazing tools and some of the moves he made with

1318
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: his feet finding a little open spaces and then slinging

1319
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: the ball no look passes. It was like the best

1320
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: version of Zach Wilson. And for a Jet team that

1321
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: had went into a very dark place, it was nice.

1322
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: It was a nice Sunday at the Metal.

1323
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: It's kind of like also, they kept cutting up to

1324
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: the booth where Nathaniel Hackett in the first half when

1325
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: things were bad, Like I thought, I saw a crack

1326
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: in the armor of like just a bit of concern

1327
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 4: where yeah, just like I mean, he knows that we're

1328
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 4: staring him on camera and things are going terribly. I

1329
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: mean just from like a human side, because I feel

1330
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: like Zach Wilson obviously has been yanked around so much.

1331
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: I love seeing it just for him because no matter what,

1332
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: if his career isnt in New York and this is

1333
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: a good thing for him to find out what they

1334
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: want to do with him at quarterback going forward.

1335
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: I think they can't maybe make the same mistake.

1336
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 4: That's a huge It's just a personal He can walk

1337
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: around New York City this week and not feel like

1338
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: he's letting the entire metropolis down.

1339
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: I like that. But c J.

1340
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 4: Stroud going out with to me, the biggest story of

1341
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 4: this game.

1342
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Texans. It was a total loss. It was

1343
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: all bad and the game is already well decided when

1344
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: Stroud gets hurt. He was knocked out of the game

1345
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: with a concussion. It was a pretty bad hit where

1346
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: he slammed the back of his helmet on the turf

1347
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: on a Quinn Williams hit Nico Collins, who were just

1348
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: talking up as this guy that like nobody's paying attention,

1349
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: but he has almost a thousand yards receiving. He lasted

1350
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: one possession before leaving with a calf injury. Linebacker play.

1351
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 2: Cashman went out to vary Thomas will Anderson, their first

1352
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: round pick also goes out in this game. I'm not

1353
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: sure the severity of his injury. So you had all

1354
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: these injury issues and an offense.

1355
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 6: That was just five starters.

1356
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the midway through the third quarter before they

1357
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: had their one scoring drive, they had negative eleven passing

1358
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: yards that deep into the game. And you know, it

1359
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: was the type of performance from the Texans that yes,

1360
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: and I know you're high on the mark and I

1361
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: think when they have everybody on the same field when

1362
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: healthy and they're healthy, they.

1363
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: Can be dangerous.

1364
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: But I did not like, even before Stroud went out,

1365
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: just the vibe of the team did not feel like

1366
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: a team that's ready to play crucible games in December

1367
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: and January. Could be just a bad day at the office,

1368
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: but they were badly outplayed by a team that was

1369
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: like in tatters going into this game.

1370
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,959
Speaker 5: Well, they're down their top three wide receivers, which now

1371
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 5: with Collins gone and including i'm receivers in general because

1372
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 5: Schultz has gone. So that's you have a rookie quarterback

1373
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 5: down three receivers, and then you lose three of your

1374
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 5: key defensive places too. Cashman and Thomas have been vital

1375
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 5: to them. Their offense really hasn't been hitting since that

1376
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 5: Bengals game that was kind of the high point of

1377
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 5: their season. I know they won the following week by

1378
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 5: the Cardinals, but they've had inconsistencies in each of the

1379
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 5: last three games against the Cards, Jackson Broncos. Their schedule

1380
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 5: stays favorable, but this was a major come down to

1381
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 5: earth game. They had a missed opportunity with Jacksonville. Who

1382
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 5: will talk, I mean, who lost that game against the

1383
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 5: Browns and they just need to get healthy. They need

1384
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 5: Strat out there next week. And it is a reminder

1385
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 5: like it's a long season. They've been right around to me,

1386
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 5: a five hundred team, what just with a little more

1387
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 5: excitement the rest you know, this season? Like they're plus

1388
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 5: eight now in terms of point differential for the season.

1389
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 5: I would caution though, because I saw some Texans Twitter stuff,

1390
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 5: It's like, is the season over all?

1391
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 6: This stuff?

1392
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 5: All these seven and six teams every time you lose,

1393
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 5: the season's not over. The odds are of all those

1394
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 5: seven and six teams a total of zero will go

1395
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 5: four and O. I mean, that's an overwhelming odds that

1396
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 5: none of them will run the table because you think

1397
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 5: of the first four weeks of the season, how many

1398
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 5: four and O teams did We have only great teams

1399
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 5: win four straight games. So if you're seven and six,

1400
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 5: you probably have one game to play with. If you

1401
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 5: finish ten and seven, you're more than likely, not definitely

1402
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 5: because of tibreaking, but more than likely. In the AFC,

1403
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 5: I think if you finish ten and seven, you're probably

1404
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 5: going to make the playoffs, and if you finished nine

1405
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 5: and eight, you're probably not gonna make them.

1406
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: I don't like, so you're engaging with with Texans fans

1407
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: who are like concerned about their mathematical chances when the

1408
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 4: entire AFC is within Like.

1409
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: I think it's more the way they lost, maybe the

1410
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,439
Speaker 5: way they engage with them.

1411
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 6: Well, I'm not engaging.

1412
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: It seems absurd to me.

1413
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 6: It's the reporters too, I see.

1414
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 5: Like, imagine if you were a Browns fan, you come

1415
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 5: into this game seven and five, you lose thirty to

1416
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 5: six to the Jets, and your quarterback goes out with

1417
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 5: the concussion of four others started, You're feeling like it's all.

1418
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, all that stuff feels real to me.

1419
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like the fact that you're probably gonna get an

1420
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: AFC team that wins nine games and sneaks into the

1421
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 4: wild card, and they're sitting that they have seven. Yeah,

1422
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: they play the Titans twice, and who knows where the

1423
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: Colts will be at that point.

1424
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm way to go last point on because circling back

1425
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 2: to Hackett in the second half, when things started going

1426
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: the other way and he called a good game, I

1427
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: have to say, for the first time, it was like, Okay,

1428
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: there was some misdirections, some trickeration. They were kind of

1429
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: he was actually having a nice day for once, and

1430
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: they showed him having like a release and a celebration.

1431
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, that's the good because we knew from

1432
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: Hard Knox he's a good guy. Right, he's just in

1433
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: over his head. And and and one point about Wilson

1434
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: playing in front of an offensive line that, again, by

1435
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: the way, was terrible. Kai Beckton had the worst game

1436
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: I've ever seen him have today. He was making these plays.

1437
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: At one point, he was seventeen of eighteen in the

1438
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: second half, So you know, he played really well and

1439
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: did show something.

1440
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: He's a curiosity. He remains. I don't want him to

1441
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: be my quarterback ever again after last four games.

1442
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 2: But you know what's fun, It's fun to see him

1443
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: when things are going well and just cutting loose. All right,

1444
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: let us move on, Hold on, d yes, second he

1445
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: is you wanted me to pull something from the Yes,

1446
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: thank you. I did not want to let you get

1447
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: past you. Because this can't go.

1448
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: This can't go without mentioning that someone did lock this

1449
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: game up, and it was one Nick Westling who was

1450
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: having a grand old chuckle during his prediction. Let's revisit that.

1451
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: Hidding me?

1452
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 19: This team's an absolute show. How can they even be

1453
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 19: get considered an NFL franchise right now?

1454
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: This is a joke.

1455
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 19: How they are only three and a half point favorites

1456
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 19: is beyond me. The Texans are going to roll by thirty.

1457
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 19: This isn't even funny. I don't even know why I'm laughing.

1458
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 19: It's a disgrace.

1459
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 6: Good luck Jets, Better luck next year.

1460
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Bye. Who's the disgrace?

1461
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 11: Now?

1462
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't think Nick is wearing pants in that video?

1463
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: All right? Uh, let's move on. Where are we going next?

1464
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: Where are we going next? Let's go to Soldier Field. Listen,

1465
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: he's a showman. And that was that was that was

1466
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: a great message, just it wasn't accurate. He put himself

1467
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: on the line and you know it didn't work out

1468
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: for him.

1469
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 6: Lion's showing blitz.

1470
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 13: Lions have their safeties back deep away to snap Justice

1471
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 13: Fields off the left side, free play for Justice worked

1472
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 13: it down the left side.

1473
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 15: He's got gloping into the end zone for the touchdown.

1474
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 6: Touchdown Bears and they're back in front. Thirty eight yard strikes.

1475
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 13: Dude, Jerry Moore, the Kensmar's overplayed Trushner.

1476
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: Wow, my goodness, man, who do we get bongos to?

1477
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: It was deserve it Rams Ravens, But I gotta say

1478
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: the Bears, the Bears. I did have that thought for seconds,

1479
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: so many choices. The Bears could have gotten the bongos

1480
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: because the Bears played a really good game on Sunday,

1481
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: really giving it to the Lions, the rival twenty eight

1482
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: to thirteen win. Justin Fields threw for a touchdown, ran

1483
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: for another and that play. I chose that one because

1484
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: it was a fourth and long and the just no hesitation.

1485
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: Justin Field's drop back, he sees DJ Moore.

1486
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: In one on one coverage, he just drills it and

1487
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: they say we have this ability.

1488
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 3: So Matt Ibraflus, the head coach.

1489
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, there they've won three or four

1490
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 2: and he got his first division win last week. Ibra flues,

1491
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: which is insane now that he has his first back

1492
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: to back wins as head coach of the Bear. So

1493
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: there's sacking some things here now, and it was it

1494
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: was just nice to see the Bears showing some life

1495
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: and Mark, I think I think I kind.

1496
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: Of threw this out there a couple of days ago.

1497
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: Could justin fields get the Bears thinking with a strong

1498
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: finish and I thought he played better than even his

1499
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: box score in this leading this offense on an impressive show.

1500
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for these teams that you know they're

1501
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: out of it to some degree, but a lot still matters.

1502
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: And it, like I mean, ibra Flus two weeks ago,

1503
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 4: to me felt like will he finished the season with

1504
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 4: his team, probably because the GM and him are very linked.

1505
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 4: But it's important for us to see what the vision

1506
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 4: of Matt Eberluse is and that, you know, beyond even

1507
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 4: justin fields, this was a defense, a roster that gave

1508
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 4: away defensive talent a year ago, burned it all down

1509
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 4: a little bit to the ground.

1510
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: Had no pass rush coming into the year.

1511
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 4: The Montes Sweat acquisition I think has absolutely turned a

1512
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 4: key on this defense.

1513
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: But they've been a legit.

1514
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 4: Raal good hit today, right, He's been great, and they

1515
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: had four sacks they believe, and they made life really

1516
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: difficult for Jared Goff. And I think the other side

1517
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 4: of this is like concern around the Lions continues to

1518
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 4: grow and bubble.

1519
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't like the energy around this team

1520
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: right now. I think Lions fans that are freaking out.

1521
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are some out there. I think there's

1522
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: reason to be concerned because there's just some things that

1523
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: we are not seeing. Aiden Hutchinson finally kind of got

1524
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: it going again in this game, so that was positive.

1525
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: But they but the slow starts Detroit. They've been trailing

1526
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: at the end of the first quarter down three of

1527
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: their last four games. And when this team is playing

1528
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: from behind, they just they just look and act different.

1529
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: And Goff is putting in more uncomfortable situation and they

1530
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: can't play defense greg not and especially against mobile quarterbacks

1531
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: who just run around this unit.

1532
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 5: Every quarterback has their best game in a while against

1533
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 5: this team, and it's concerning. This is a division matchup,

1534
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 5: and so they know each other a little better than

1535
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 5: other teams.

1536
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 6: But it's the Bears. These two teams have played twice.

1537
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 5: I watched every second of that game live last time,

1538
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 5: and the Bears were the better team, scrept them for

1539
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 5: fifty five minutes and it wasn't fluky. I know Goff

1540
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 5: had a couple of interceptions in that game, but they

1541
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 5: were also winning the line of scrimmage. They were moving

1542
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 5: the ball like they were the better team. The Bears

1543
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 5: have looked pretty reasonable, I would say for seven eight

1544
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 5: weeks now. I mean they had a backup quarterback playing,

1545
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 5: but the team around Bagent and now since Field's come back,

1546
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 5: they're a dangerous team. They're one of yea, a team

1547
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to face down the stretch and the Lions.

1548
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 5: You're right, their offense is great, but they also only

1549
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 5: have like two to three pieces, and if Goff falls

1550
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 5: behind and starts getting under pressure like it's it's not

1551
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 5: the best offense in the league that you can have

1552
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 5: this level of defense around it.

1553
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 6: It's concerning.

1554
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Jamier Gibbs also, once again, maybe getting him

1555
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: more and more involved with the offense will help because

1556
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: he gets the balls on his ball in his hands,

1557
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 2: and he was excellent again in this game, but overall.

1558
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: Just not enough.

1559
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 5: Get The Packers, by the way, who play Monday night,

1560
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 5: are very much in this division race now. Oh for

1561
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 5: sure down down too. If they can win that game

1562
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 5: with four to play, it is not over. And we

1563
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 5: mentioned ibra Flus like if they've finished strong, you could

1564
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 5: see this Bears organization in over the years has been

1565
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 5: not wanting to pay their coaches to go away. It's

1566
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 5: just kind of not been their mo Their ownership isn't

1567
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 5: too involved. So he I think he has a chance

1568
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 5: if they keep playing well.

1569
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 3: They've Joshine now like they're trended like he could.

1570
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: If they can finish with a sense of dignity and

1571
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: some success, I think he will get another year, which

1572
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 2: maybe is not the right move, but if they're showing progress,

1573
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: and then the next question will be greg to.

1574
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 3: Circle back to the fields thing.

1575
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: Sure you have DJ Moore now and that's now a

1576
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: legitimate thing. You have Marvin Harrison's son out there is

1577
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,879
Speaker 2: the next big thing coming.

1578
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: Out of college.

1579
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: The idea of well we could draft a new quarterback,

1580
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 2: or we could give him a potential superstar a pair

1581
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: with more and really start building or.

1582
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 5: Down that right, or we trade down to like whoever

1583
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 5: is the two or the three? Pick get Harrison, get

1584
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 5: right picks. It all could be exciting, and I'm not

1585
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 5: sure keeping ever Refluse would be the right decision. I'm

1586
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 5: leaning no, but I kind of like more ebra Fluse

1587
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 5: in our life.

1588
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 6: It's it's done.

1589
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 5: Like the last six or seven weeks, I've realized he's

1590
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 5: an extremely goofy person in press conference that I feel

1591
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 5: like if he was on coaching a different team, people

1592
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 5: would be like, what is with this guy?

1593
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 6: And he gave a little example, just a little exam.

1594
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: He's just weird.

1595
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 12: Now.

1596
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: Jamon had seventeen tackles today. Jaman that crazy?

1597
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 17: What did you should him?

1598
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 10: The way he was playing sounds like Mike College.

1599
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: Sit over there, I got well, he's winning, he's feeling good.

1600
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 6: It's even the awkwardess is like, hey you over there,

1601
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 6: I got jacket.

1602
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: It is this safety risker at seventeen tackle. A safety

1603
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: with seventeen tackles, he like linebackers with seventeen tackles.

1604
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: I like that though.

1605
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: That's one of those like sneaky flexes where I'm showing

1606
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: I have a sense of humor. I'm showing that I'm

1607
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: loose and easy, and I'm also showing you that I

1608
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 2: was a great player once the time.

1609
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 4: I bet you know I saw his pillow talk at home.

1610
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 4: Is like, honey, you've got to like kind of show

1611
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 4: them who you are, show them the person that I know.

1612
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: We want the real mat to come out.

1613
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I recognize him now when I see him, Like,

1614
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: I think that's progress. That's a turning point switch. Who

1615
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: would blame us? Who could? I mean, who says we can't?

1616
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 6: Who's locked?

1617
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: Whose choice is it other than who locked it? Oh

1618
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: I did? Oh Markie, Oh, cess Dog. That's okay.

1619
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll, you know, join ship with some other person

1620
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 4: winning twelve games a week.

1621
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: Do you want it? Do you want to join us? No,

1622
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: I'll examine it.

1623
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 4: But like this also, this was a dumb lock because

1624
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 4: it's like, why do I keep picking these teams on

1625
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 4: the road that are trending downward when when I'm picking.

1626
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: You know, Greg, the only thing that would actually end

1627
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: the lock competition is if we all just joined on

1628
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: the same lock. That would be the only way. I'm

1629
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: heavily considering it. I'll take it to the committee. I

1630
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: think my second team in the standings is now tied.

1631
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 4: You so well, yeah, you have multiple franchises to sort out,

1632
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: so I can't like Mickey lumits.

1633
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 3: The Mickey Lumis of the locks competition.

1634
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh take a quick break and then

1635
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: we will finish up.

1636
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 3: A right welcome back.

1637
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: Uh, it is time to dive into the mysterious and

1638
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:58,600
Speaker 2: terrifying and grizzly world of the NFC South. Mask up, everybody,

1639
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: mask up, like the outbreak gear, the full the full

1640
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: bodysuit with the pull on, and then there's like the window.

1641
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 1: We're back there.

1642
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're back there.

1643
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: Let's go from the eleven yard line.

1644
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 3: Good snap, Mayfield, you can go back the ball left.

1645
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: There, there's a cockball cockball touchdown.

1646
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 6: Kate Oughton mikes it over the shoulder catch how the box?

1647
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: Will we take the lead?

1648
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1649
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 18: One on one coverage and you could tell by the

1650
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 18: body language of Mayfield he was going to and the

1651
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 18: whole way.

1652
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: Well, forget his.

1653
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 11: Number twenty holding defense number twenty seven.

1654
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: Decline it. That's not listen Roberts. He's a stickler for

1655
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: rules and he.

1656
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: Wanted to make sure we have the holding call an

1657
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: announcement in there. Thank you the completionist.

1658
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: Still like them complete Kado and oh that was Jane

1659
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: decker Hoff with the call kateot and.

1660
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: Pretty good tight end, good little tight end. Knowing Djokus

1661
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: he is Dave should have been in the show to that.

1662
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: You know what, We'll do it again, Jo highlight by

1663
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: the end of the show.

1664
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 4: Just do an entire episode on his highlights from today.

1665
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: Kate Otten hauled in an eleven yard touchdown Bass with

1666
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: thirty one seconds to play. It was a wild fourth

1667
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: quarter and it allowed the Bucks to move into a

1668
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: tie for first place in the Stinkiest Blue Cheese NFC

1669
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 2: South twenty nine to twenty five over the Falcons. Greg,

1670
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: are we completely certain that the season will end with

1671
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 2: an NFC South champion?

1672
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: And if so, do you think it is the Bucks who.

1673
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 3: Find a way they did on Sunday?

1674
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: I think you're selling the Bucks short. They're not tied

1675
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 5: for the first place. They are sure the first place team,

1676
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 5: the Bucks.

1677
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: So excuse me.

1678
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: This game, excuse me was drafted by yours truly for

1679
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 5: just the scenario that happened that the Bucks had the

1680
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 5: ball late in the game, and I was thinking this

1681
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 5: is the Bucks season. If they do not score a

1682
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 5: touchdown on this drive, which they received, I believe with

1683
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 5: three minutes and twenty seconds left, their season's over. They're

1684
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 5: down two, they won't have the tie breaker four to go.

1685
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 5: Bye Bye Bucks. It's gone. And Baker Mayfield, who was

1686
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 5: terrible today fourteen for twenty nine, missed like seven throws.

1687
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's got moxy.

1688
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 5: Ran into like four sacks pressure that wasn't there for

1689
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 5: most of the day, had his best two throws of

1690
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 5: the game when he absolutely needed to, which has been

1691
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 5: I think typical of him late this season is he's

1692
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 5: he's in the perfect division for who he is. He's

1693
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 5: come up with his best work late in the game.

1694
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 5: And third and ten, it was one, sixteen to go.

1695
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 5: He had been forcing throws to Godwin the whole time,

1696
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 5: ten targets for at that point like twenty yards, and

1697
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 5: Baker had a dime. He finally wins this matchup against

1698
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 5: Clark Phillips. They were trying to pick on this rookie

1699
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 5: safety the whole game, and the rookie safety was winning

1700
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: and it was a beautiful throw and catch. And then

1701
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 5: the next play or two plays later is to Aten

1702
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 5: for the touchdown, and that was enough to just get

1703
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 5: out of here in a game that Desmond Ritter and

1704
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 5: the Falcons just kept finding ways to let the Buccaneers

1705
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 5: stay around, even though the Falcons really outplayed.

1706
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: I'm issuing a correction to your correction. What there's a

1707
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,440
Speaker 2: three way top ty top the NFC.

1708
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: Get it.

1709
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 3: But the first time it's out the end of the area.

1710
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: Who is in first place in the nfcon there are

1711
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: three teams that are six and seven.

1712
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 3: Who is in the middle of December, That's all that matter.

1713
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 6: Who's in first place.

1714
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: Don't worry about anything else about tie breakers and all that. Boss,

1715
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: we'll get to that. There's plenty of time for that

1716
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: to decide it. But right now there's this is the

1717
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: NFC South Mark six and seven, six and seven, six

1718
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: and seven, one and twelve.

1719
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 4: I awe, some fun I know I'm rooting at this point,

1720
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 4: Like you gotta flip it around if you're looking for

1721
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 4: something that's intriguing, Like there's a chance for to get

1722
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 4: a seven win team winning this division and you've never

1723
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 4: we've had seven to nine, you've never had seven and ten,

1724
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 4: So that would be intriguing. I mean, if I said

1725
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 4: to you back in August. I believe that Baker Mayfield

1726
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 4: will be the best quarterback in this division by like

1727
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 4: mid December.

1728
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,799
Speaker 1: And that's not saying he's he is a Pryce.

1729
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 3: Young Car Baker.

1730
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 4: This year's version of Car. I'm just saying it's not

1731
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 4: much of a car wreck in the division.

1732
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: When care this morning, I was feeling pretty dangerous that

1733
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: it does apply. You know, we tried who was it.

1734
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: Who's the reporter tried to get Baker at the end

1735
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 2: of the interview to say he was feeling dangerous, beat

1736
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 2: him up on it and everything, and He's like, no,

1737
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 2: I wasn't feel dangerous, and I woke up and he walked.

1738
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: Away pretty good. Who was the reporter? Somebody? We know?

1739
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: The game?

1740
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go on, I'll figure this out.

1741
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 5: I think they had something like eighty something yards on

1742
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,879
Speaker 5: their first eight or nine drives. Like the Bucks defense

1743
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 5: was giving up play Like this was the ultimate Desmond

1744
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 5: Ridder game. Who's gotten better at football? He threw for

1745
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 5: three forty seven in this game. He threw for a touchdown,

1746
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 5: ran for another. But like he just finds a way

1747
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 5: to make the biggest mistakes possible in the most crucial moments.

1748
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 5: He missed a wide open Baijon Robinson for a touch down.

1749
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 5: Early he threw an interception on like a swing pass

1750
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 5: that was a great read by Carlton Davis, but still

1751
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 5: it's set the Bucks up at the eight. Their offense

1752
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 5: was not going to do anything today, but that set

1753
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 5: them up for their only touchdown early in the game.

1754
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 5: He had two fumbles. He took a brutal safety in

1755
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 5: the game where he held the ball too long, So

1756
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,759
Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, you can be great the other forty

1757
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 5: five plays and it was driving me crazy. Arthur Smith

1758
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 5: just refused to run the ball at one point, and

1759
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 5: this is when the game is close. They had thirty

1760
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 5: one dropbacks for it or and eleven carries for the

1761
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 5: running time.

1762
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 6: What has happened?

1763
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: Back in that world, he'll be John Robinson, by the way,

1764
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: Young Wa Ku, who's great.

1765
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: He's nails. But he missed two field goals in this game,

1766
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: which cost them the game in a way. But also well,

1767
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: and they're fifty and fifty two out, but for him,

1768
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: that's usually money in the bank.

1769
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: That also gives Justin Tucker back.

1770
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: I believe the all time leading kick percentage for active

1771
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: players nice worked, so I'm happy about that, but I

1772
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: like I like young Wait Coup, so bummer to him.

1773
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: Good player, just not a great day.

1774
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 5: I think my two all Pro safeties were in this

1775
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 5: game and they were both making monster plays.

1776
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 6: Baits ended like three drives in winfield.

1777
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 5: Is the one that had that hose fumble, I mean,

1778
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 5: which could have been a touchdown, it turned into a

1779
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 5: safety because it bounced in the Falcons guy.

1780
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 4: We agreed, Baits was the clearly the best free agent

1781
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 4: pickup of the of the off sea has been great.

1782
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: Great maneuver. Without even thinking, who wins the NFC South?

1783
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: Mark Bucks great, I'm gonna go with Falcons, Me Bucks, nobody.

1784
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: It just says a lot about the Saints that they

1785
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 2: get no votes in this scenario.

1786
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: A right, let's stay in the NFC South where the

1787
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: Panthers and Saints did battle Saints movie towards that feels

1788
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: like and the field level sweeps rolls to us. Right,

1789
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: this car throws at the ends on start car playing

1790
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: in this game for us.

1791
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 6: Jimmy Graham votes down.

1792
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,879
Speaker 3: Oh he thought he might dunk.

1793
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: It, but he didn't. Jimmy don't want that.

1794
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 6: Fine, he doesn't have that.

1795
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: He's not allowed either that he ruined the goalpost at

1796
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: one time. I remember, heyday, Mike cossinduce McAllister with the call.

1797
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, who apparently is unkillable, returned from a concussion

1798
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: and various upper body injuries, and he threw a late

1799
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: touchdown passes to chrys A. Lobby and Jimmy Graham and

1800
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: the Saints beat the moribund to Panthers twenty eight to

1801
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: six to pull back into a tar atop the division

1802
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 2: with with two other teams there are tirebreakers, but whatever, Mark,

1803
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, the whole vibrant on the Saints seems so

1804
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,839
Speaker 2: weird to me and kind of toxic.

1805
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: Toxic.

1806
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: Even after this win, all I see around the team,

1807
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: the reporting and the fans and the retweets and everything,

1808
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,919
Speaker 2: it's just negativity, like why isn't Jimmy.

1809
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: Graham playing more? And drama about car.

1810
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: And the center fighting on the field and reporters squabbling

1811
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: with the head coach.

1812
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: Enjoy a win, guys, christ.

1813
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying.

1814
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 4: I think that, like you could look at just the

1815
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: score of this game and it's deceiving it. It was

1816
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: a really rough watch on both sides. We already understand

1817
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: that the Panthers are a rough watch. But these two quarterbacks,

1818
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 4: and I think this frustration is just that it's you

1819
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 4: want to look at the win alone, isolated cool, but

1820
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 4: it is a continuation of a disturbing pattern with Carr

1821
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 4: in the Saints, and it's like, I get that he's

1822
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 4: the lightning rot and it's going to take critique no

1823
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 4: matter what he does. But both quarterbacks combined for fifty

1824
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 4: eight passing yards in the first half, and it does

1825
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 4: feel like a year more than any other season that

1826
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 4: I can remember, where like you come out of every

1827
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 4: one half of these games with a quarterback that has

1828
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 4: a reputation of succeeding in the past or at least,

1829
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 4: you know, producing with like eighteen yards or twenty eight

1830
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: yards or some nonsense. And so it was like the

1831
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 4: perfect storm of both both quarterbacks playing some ghastly football

1832
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 4: out of the gate. I mean, Car specifically was thirteen

1833
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 4: for twenty for thirty seven yards with a bad interception.

1834
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 4: I just think there's bubbling frustration. The only thing they

1835
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 4: did well offensively early on was run the ball pretty

1836
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 4: well out of the gate, and it just all flared

1837
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 4: up from there. And it's just like if you're going

1838
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 4: to have a week where everything comes together and you

1839
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 4: look like a Saints team that we want to potentially

1840
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 4: view as a team that can win this division, and

1841
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 4: without us having to see an extra game, you beat

1842
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 4: this Panthers team and like they've got nothing, and Bryce

1843
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: Young at one point was Bryce Young was like one

1844
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 4: for nine to start this game.

1845
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: And this is a crazy stat.

1846
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 4: He averaged thirteen point four air yards per attempt today,

1847
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 4: the fifth most by any quarterback in a game all year.

1848
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,879
Speaker 1: On those passes.

1849
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 4: He was zero for six in the first half and

1850
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 4: one for nine with thirty two yards in the whole game.

1851
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 4: It's like you're going ten, twelve, thirteen minutes at a time,

1852
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 4: drive after drive where it's like, no matter how depressing

1853
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 4: the car situation is, I just want the season end

1854
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 4: for Bryce Young because it's like there is there.

1855
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 3: Are the saddest team in the league.

1856
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 4: It's sad, and like it's sad because of what you've

1857
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 4: given up for him, who he is, like what he's

1858
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 4: meant to represent, and you've already fired your coach, and

1859
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 4: it's just like it's a tough watch.

1860
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 5: They ran for two hundred and four yards on the Saints,

1861
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 5: which is another continuing issue for the Saints is that

1862
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 5: they get run over every week and they still only

1863
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 5: picked up six points. I mean the reason though, that

1864
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 5: there's negativity after the game is, look, Eric McCoy is

1865
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 5: the leader of that offense. If you have to pick

1866
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 5: one player over the last you know, five to eight

1867
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 5: years or whatever. He's the center, he's a captain, he's

1868
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 5: the leader of the offense. He's always very cool, calm

1869
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 5: and collected. And he gets into a huge screaming match

1870
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 5: with Carr on the field that continues onto the sideline.

1871
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 5: So there's gonna be a lot of questions and they

1872
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 5: all try to downplay it, and it's unclear honestly what

1873
01:22:54,120 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 5: it was. But that's gonna be is getting arguments with

1874
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 5: the quarterback. It's like, okay, what is.

1875
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 3: Bench the quarterback? Like he's already injured anyway.

1876
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: If everyone's so miserable about the quarterback at the quarterback

1877
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: out of.

1878
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: The lineup, I mean, I don't know, but it isn't

1879
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: just from a distance, it seems a little odd that

1880
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 2: there's so much even in a blowout win, you know, twenty.

1881
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: Eight to six.

1882
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: I'll say this, they did put together two late touchdown

1883
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 4: drives where you know, Jimmy Graham became a factor late

1884
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,440
Speaker 4: in the game on that front. But it isn't like

1885
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 4: like I think, to your point, Dan, like a couple

1886
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 4: of weeks ago, or like the idea that like Cars

1887
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 4: getting killed, but he's actually playing well. It's like you

1888
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 4: had a couple of nice passes in this game, but

1889
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 4: we're not even getting the Derek Carr that we got

1890
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 4: a year ago in Oakland, which was not the Derek

1891
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,480
Speaker 4: Carr we got previous to that in Oakland.

1892
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: So it was far less in this game.

1893
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 5: But well, he just battling through and he played his

1894
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 5: best game of the season against the Lions last week

1895
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 5: for what it was worth.

1896
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: So some guys get presented as Warriors, and then there's

1897
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: Car who's being killed for playing poorly in a game

1898
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 1: where he barely made out of the previous game alive. Yeah.

1899
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 2: I just I'm just like, the whole vibe is frustrating

1900
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: to me around New Orleans right now.

1901
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 5: McCoy did apologize to reporters about the spat, saying, should

1902
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 5: what was it about? Nobody they want to.

1903
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 3: Say, you know, there's that guy, John Boy.

1904
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: We'll find out something.

1905
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the guy John Boy.

1906
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: Who does mostly baseball stuff, but he has a whole

1907
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: empire up there in New York, and he's a great

1908
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: lip reader, and he does all these great videos. If

1909
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: you're a baseball like that, reading lips of whether it's

1910
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: fights on the field or what's going on.

1911
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: We need that. We need that guy, and I film

1912
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: needs a version of that guy. I was thinking of

1913
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: that when the Mahomes sideline tirade happened. This would be

1914
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 2: another example.

1915
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh maybe does John Boy have like a a brother

1916
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 4: or a sister that has the same sign.

1917
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: I don't know him personally, our buddy Chris Rose works with. Yeah,

1918
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 2: So I'm how about for the second half of the

1919
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 2: football game, we're gonna try to go to watch and

1920
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: a few minutes ask We're gonna ask.

1921
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 5: Him here's brother return touchdown? On a day where Steve

1922
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 5: Gleason is there in attention about that.

1923
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned that because I was like sitting

1924
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 4: at the top of my notes and went somewhere else.

1925
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 4: It was actually ruled a fumble, So it wasn't I mean,

1926
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 4: it looked like it wasn't it, But you know, but that, yes,

1927
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 4: I guess even a dance point even that couldn't just

1928
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 4: have been what it needed to be.

1929
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 2: It's remarkable, like Steve Gleeson who had the famous block

1930
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: punt when they reopened the Superdome after Katrina late stage

1931
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: als like he's the fact that he's going in these

1932
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: games remarkable. Yeah, whether or not accounted well, the touchdown counted.

1933
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 6: They just ruled it.

1934
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 5: Just it's nitpicky, like apparently like if you if you

1935
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 5: cause a fumbel before he even tried to punt it,

1936
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 5: essentially they didn't count. But he has a remarkable human

1937
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 5: I think he has a new book out or he

1938
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 5: had a book. Like every time he speaks, people should listen.

1939
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: There you go, enjoy yourself, guys, it's holidays. Let's go

1940
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: across the sidewalk.

1941
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 9: Charges football ball now the charger forty six yard Linus

1942
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 9: Wilson has him with the stomach.

1943
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 2: Walk by the glass before tough time forever to throw

1944
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: the ball.

1945
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 18: Steps up, now froze a deep ball he wants.

1946
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 9: Courtland goes up, touchdown, dever penally fight thrown.

1947
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,839
Speaker 1: Get your penalty flag out of my highlights.

1948
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 9: Let's go your first call as Courtland much like an

1949
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 9: NBA power forward, just blocked out Davis caught the ball

1950
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 9: basketball arm.

1951
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,839
Speaker 6: You got in the boot right?

1952
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: How did you do that? Because you were in the newsroom.

1953
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: I thought the whole day trotted over.

1954
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 6: Didn't go to Brown Starters, but decided to go to Brons.

1955
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: Well, I needed to make this comment though, you know,

1956
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: I got a feeling it was coming.

1957
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: Danger spounces back after last weeks three interception performance. He

1958
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: throws two touchdown passes and two hundred and twenty four

1959
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: yards through the air, and the Broncos crews over the

1960
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: Chargers who are dead in the water twenty four to

1961
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: seven the final. The Broncos keep winning and yeah, like

1962
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 2: I said, and probably a game out in the AFC

1963
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 2: West as the Chiefs continue to struggle.

1964
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: On their own. Okay, so who have this game?

1965
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: I did Greg justin Herbert might have played his last

1966
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: snap this season.

1967
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: So what happened.

1968
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 6: Let's get to the Broncos later.

1969
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 5: But that is the biggest story to come out of

1970
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 5: this game they're playing on Thursday night. He had a

1971
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 5: right index finger injury. It's been reported by our guy

1972
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 5: rap sheet. It's a fracture, and Ian said, because of

1973
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 5: where this is happening in the season, that he might

1974
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 5: not be able to play again this season. Brandon Standle

1975
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 5: lost Right was asked about it as well, and he said,

1976
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 5: in terms of Herbert returning this season specifically, that is

1977
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 5: to be determined. So I think we can take from

1978
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 5: those comments that he's definitely not playing Thursday night they

1979
01:27:55,880 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 5: are five and eight, and he's probably out multiple and

1980
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 5: just going out with a whimper in a four to

1981
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 5: twenty five game. There's only two of them today that

1982
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 5: approximately zero percent of the non like Broncos fan part

1983
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 5: of the country was watching, and you know.

1984
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 3: Just our market didn't get Chiefs bills.

1985
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 6: Right because of this.

1986
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 5: Our market got some with Easton Stick back there, and

1987
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 5: it was emblematic what's happened because Herbert was you were

1988
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 5: at a bar crushed in the first half. He took

1989
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 5: four sacks and he never takes sacks, but they were

1990
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 5: all over him. Their offensive line head injuries. In this games.

1991
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 5: Ion Johnson got hurt, and that's been part of the season.

1992
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 5: It is the offensive line not nearly playing as well.

1993
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 5: Like there was this drops. He's making some really bad

1994
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 5: throws early. It was seventeen to nothing at one point

1995
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 5: and then Stick gets in there, so Easton Stick didn't

1996
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 5: have a chance and this is kind of how the

1997
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 5: Dally era ends. It's probably not gonna end this week.

1998
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,680
Speaker 5: Maybe it'll end after the Thursday night game if they

1999
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 5: want to a jump on it, but if not, it'll

2000
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 5: happen at the end of the sea.

2001
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem antiquated for where we are in Societ that

2002
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 2: like regions of the country are still getting banged by

2003
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: the local team playing.

2004
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a national sport, like, come on,

2005
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: you gotta give.

2006
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 6: Us another way to walk Sunday TV Sunday, right.

2007
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 4: I it is, but I mean tons of people are

2008
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 4: watching Red Zone two and things like.

2009
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: That, more expensive than the other option. But I hear

2010
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: what you're saying.

2011
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 4: They find a way to figure everything like this out,

2012
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: and so this hangs out there as an odd pathway.

2013
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Denver defense finished with six sacts two turnovers. They held

2014
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: the Chargers to combine one of eighteen on third and

2015
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: fourth down.

2016
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 6: Jaklon McMillan is like a star.

2017
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 5: Every week the undrafted slot guy makes just a couple

2018
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 5: massive plays.

2019
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: He was great. Hey, if the Broncos follow me on

2020
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: this one. The Broncos ever won ten and seven John

2021
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 1: Payton Coach.

2022
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 9: Of the Year.

2023
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: It's got to be in the mix.

2024
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you got to that'd be one of the

2025
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 4: greatest turn because I think I think it's like relative

2026
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 4: to what they were last year and what.

2027
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,879
Speaker 1: They are, I would put that similar to my fantasy

2028
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: team going from one to five date and six. I

2029
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: think that's where I kind of put that.

2030
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 5: I think you would get consideration and should. The only

2031
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 5: part with that argument I've seen Broncos fans making already

2032
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 5: is like the main part of the argument seems to

2033
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 5: be about how they responded to one and five, But

2034
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 5: he was the coach of the one in five. He

2035
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 5: gets full credit for the one in five too. The

2036
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 5: fact that they're at seven to six overall, I think

2037
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 5: is a good coaching job. Well, but I think if

2038
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 5: you said that going into the season, that's like that's

2039
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 5: one game better than expectation.

2040
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 4: That's also he also is taking over a team that was,

2041
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 4: you know, somewhat in tatters with a lot of questions

2042
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 4: starting right with your quarterback, like the defense needed time

2043
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 4: to figure itself out.

2044
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: So I don't really done a great job.

2045
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,520
Speaker 5: I don't a great I mean the six games that

2046
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 5: they went one in five count as part of this.

2047
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Definitely, he would definitely be the first NFL coach to

2048
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: win Coach of the Year that also lost seventy to

2049
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 2: twenty in a season that has never happened.

2050
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 6: That you could cement that as true and advance Joseph.

2051
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 5: I mean this has been in. The defense is capricious.

2052
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 5: How about that. You know it goes up and down.

2053
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 5: But vans Joseph's coaching a top ten defense now for

2054
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 5: two months straight. The defense had the offense has stayed

2055
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 5: about the same all year. It's been consistent. They let

2056
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 5: other teams lose games. It's a winning formula. They run

2057
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 5: the ball well enough. Wilson is a lot of checkdowns

2058
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 5: and then a lot of just bombs, and like he

2059
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 5: might have gone two for seven on bombs today or whatever.

2060
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 5: And that's happening every week. And yet the bombs that

2061
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,879
Speaker 5: they hit are so worth it. Keep throwing the bombs.

2062
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 5: The Sutton catch that he had to me was his

2063
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 5: season in a nutshell. The other guy, the defensive back,

2064
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 5: I think it was Michael Davis, was literally holding his

2065
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 5: arm like full hold, two hands on his other arm.

2066
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: He's fifty yards down the field and he catches the

2067
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 5: ball with the other arm.

2068
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 6: In the end of it. I think it was one

2069
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 6: of the catches of the year.

2070
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 5: It's sort of got slept on because you didn't see

2071
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 5: it on the angle he saw the other reverse angle.

2072
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 5: It seems completely impossible in a beautiful throw that Wilson

2073
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 5: had all the time in the world.

2074
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 4: They're playing, well, yeah, I'm not sure I want to

2075
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,520
Speaker 4: see them in the playoffs.

2076
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: Personally, that's a that's a Mark thing.

2077
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 2: But I like something about who gets instead of them, like,

2078
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 2: would you rather I'd rather see them over.

2079
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

2080
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 2: Julius Thomas and Damarius Thomas were the last Denver receivers

2081
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 2: to reach double digits and touchdowns until Courtland Sutton. Those

2082
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 2: were in the Peyton Man and Glory years. And also, Mark,

2083
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 2: I know you like a kind of exaggerated numbers comedy.

2084
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 2: This is Russell Wilson on your corner. I think I

2085
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 2: had about thirty five seconds back there, he said about

2086
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: the clean pocket before the Sutton touchdown. I went left,

2087
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 2: went right, went through my reads, and then back to Courtland.

2088
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's what he used to do in Seattle,

2089
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 1: so it must feel good. I mean that offensive line

2090
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: is falling out too.

2091
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 6: They have the yeah that when Joey Bosa got heard

2092
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 6: that just sort of.

2093
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:42,799
Speaker 1: Chargers.

2094
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 2: All right, if the if the Panthers are the saddest

2095
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 2: team in the NFC, I think the Chargers AFC.

2096
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: The Jets agreed.

2097
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 5: You know, no, now the Patriots have escaped, it's the Chargers.

2098
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean the Chargers feel it feels very bleak. They don't.

2099
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 4: It feels very bleak and just pressing, and it's week

2100
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 4: after week without any light shining through.

2101
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 2: The Jets was like kind of a tragic season. But

2102
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 2: even like today showed that they're fighting hard.

2103
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeahn know. If that's happening for Brendan Staley's team.

2104
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 3: Well they're packing up the tent.

2105
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's happening for Brandon Staley's team.

2106
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: Now, all right, real quick, guys, yes, before we get

2107
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 2: to Sunday night football.

2108
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: Yes, that's something for you.

2109
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 10: Dan Oh, Flack, go underneath third and one, it turns, bootlegs.

2110
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 3: It out to the right.

2111
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: It's gonna man wide open.

2112
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 10: Had jokers got it, hit the phone, touchdown, Bang, beautiful

2113
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 10: fake fight.

2114
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 6: Flacoh, you're happy.

2115
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Come on, that's a good call.

2116
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 6: I will.

2117
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: My argument wouldn't be that it's not a good call.

2118
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 5: How did you do this for the first time. We've

2119
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 5: been doing the show for eleven years. You somehow turned

2120
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 5: in a great Brown's touchdown into something you're needling Mark about.

2121
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,879
Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of big surprise. It's kind of amazing.

2122
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: It's a magic tricky you both. I'm glad that Dave

2123
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 2: Nijoku got his moment and it was a great day

2124
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: for Joe Flack.

2125
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 1: Those two men deserve to be celebrated on the show

2126
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: and now they have. And I'm with you on that.

2127
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 3: Teamwork all right to Sunday Night football.

2128
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 15: Second goal snap, the Prescott looks left, slam gallup touchdown.

2129
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: That was right. Now, that is offensive possessions for the

2130
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and that is three touchdowns in a field goal.

2131
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:44,759
Speaker 2: Man Brad Sham the sham God with the call. After

2132
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: the score on NBC, they cut away to Jara's box,

2133
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 2: which listen, Jerah makes the rules. Although they have had

2134
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,959
Speaker 2: trouble in the stadium's history with fire.

2135
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 1: Code, You're right, go to your research. If you don't

2136
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking talking about.

2137
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: There had to be three hundred people in that suite celebrating.

2138
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 2: Everyone vaguely looked exactly the same grade five, though, for

2139
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, who beat the Eagles thirty three to thirteen,

2140
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 2: exactly the type of comprehensive takedown of their rival that

2141
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 2: they kind of needed, not just Mark to potentially steal

2142
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 2: the NFC East away from the Eagles.

2143
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 3: And the top seeds in the NFC.

2144
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: But also for the skeptics out there, they're like, Wow,

2145
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,759
Speaker 2: they're the Cowboys. They'll find a way again. Another performance

2146
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 2: where it's like, or this might be a different team.

2147
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 4: They feel differently to me, and I've been a skeptic

2148
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 4: and kind of waited for Dallas to have like the

2149
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 4: kind of game where it is assured, it is cemented

2150
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 4: that they're a different type of Cowboys team, and I

2151
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 4: saw it. I mean, these two teams know each other

2152
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,560
Speaker 4: so well, and I think they caught Philadelphia at a

2153
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 4: time where the Eagles are having some struggles of their own.

2154
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 4: But that doesn't explain without you talking about the great

2155
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 4: nature of this Cowboys defense and what they did tonight,

2156
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 4: where you've got Stefan Gilmore playing the game of his life,

2157
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 4: punching the ball out from AJ Brown who that doesn't

2158
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 4: happen to AJ Brown typically, and DeVonta Smith, who has

2159
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 4: been so good for the Eagles dropping a bomb in

2160
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 4: the end zone on a pretty good throw and himself

2161
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 4: losing a fumble himself, and it's just they couldn't get unhooked.

2162
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 4: And I thought, you know, there were a couple of

2163
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 4: moments here where the Eagles could have climbed back in

2164
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 4: and done what happens on like every Sunday night football game,

2165
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 4: and Dallas just wouldn't let them back in. Even with

2166
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 4: the Fletcher Cocks stripsack of Dak and Jalen Carter. That's

2167
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 4: still like a momentum shift. But momentum doesn't exist great.

2168
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 5: I mean it didn't in that case because the Cowboys

2169
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 5: took it right back. Every single moment in this game.

2170
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 5: They just looked like they were gonna make the big

2171
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 5: plays and the Eagles wouldn't. You look at the yardage

2172
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 5: and it doesn't look that uneven yards for play like

2173
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 5: Eagles move the ball. You're right, you mentioned those mistakes

2174
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 5: and we didn't even mention in that uh group being

2175
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts lost the fumble and aj Brown ended a

2176
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 5: drive with a drop that would have put them inside

2177
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 5: the five yard line in the first half, So they

2178
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 5: only had eight drives when this game was still in doubt,

2179
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 5: and three ended on fumbles from their three best players

2180
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 5: and one ended on a drop from one of their

2181
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 5: other best players, A J. Brown, So that that was

2182
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 5: half their judge. But I honestly don't think it would

2183
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 5: have mattered because this was gonna be the Cowboys night.

2184
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 5: On that first play call, we knew Zaddy was feeling

2185
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 5: it the first drive. Rather calls for that big sweep

2186
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 5: to Turpen on third and one, that was a gut

2187
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 5: sea call. They run the ball on fourth and two

2188
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 5: at one point, and they pick it up. They ran

2189
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 5: the ball well in the red zone. I just think

2190
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 5: Dak had so much time on that first touchdown, like

2191
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 5: it was all just working.

2192
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 6: When they needed to make a play, they made it.

2193
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 5: And even on the rare chances when the Eagles won

2194
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 5: up front, because actually the defensive Land thought played okay

2195
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 5: in this game, Dak just hits them with like a

2196
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 5: beautiful Eli Manning to Manningham type bomb to Gallop on

2197
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:53,919
Speaker 5: the sideline.

2198
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 6: They were just better. They're just better.

2199
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: That's very big of you to reference that play twice

2200
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 1: that night. Incredible.

2201
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dak with pressure in his face dropping that and

2202
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: the bucket to gallop that just shows the zone he

2203
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 2: is in right now and has been for weeks.

2204
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 3: And I mentioned it earlier in the show.

2205
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 2: This MVP race is becoming like a corker because Dak

2206
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: does not lose any ground, Lamar moves up a little bit,

2207
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 2: party re establishes.

2208
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 6: Himself Tyreek on Monday Night. I'm not not giving up

2209
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 6: on that one either. You can have your Tyreek v

2210
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 6: saying the qbs.

2211
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 2: But these qbs, I guess what I'm saying more not

2212
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: taken away from Tyreek. I'm just saying one more to go.

2213
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 2: I think those are the four main ones right now.

2214
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 2: But I think now we're saying, oh, there's no quarterbacks

2215
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: where it's really jumping out some of these guys. Now

2216
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 2: they're starting to stack week after week, big performances and

2217
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: the numbers are getting gaudy, and that wins MVPs. But yeah,

2218
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 2: you have this this game for the Cowboys, and they

2219
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 2: are like essentially unbeatable at home.

2220
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: Well they are, they're not essentially. They're seven to zero at.

2221
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: Geral World this year, and that is a big deal

2222
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 2: because if they can keep this up and take that

2223
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 2: top seed and make the NFC go through Dallas once again,

2224
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 2: you're starting to think this could be a different year

2225
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys.

2226
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there is an interesting stretch coming up

2227
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 4: because they are untouchable at home. Only one of their

2228
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 4: final four games in the regular season are at home.

2229
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 4: They have to go to Buffalo, they have to go

2230
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 4: to Miami, they played Detroit at home, then they have

2231
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 4: to go to Washington. So it's like the Cowboys have

2232
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 4: to keep proving this if they want.

2233
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: I guess part of like the point we were talking

2234
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: making at the beginning of this is they've proven themselves now.

2235
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 2: To me, like I don't expect them to go lay

2236
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 2: agn anywhere now is this is a different experience.

2237
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 4: We have been covering this Cowboys team as a group

2238
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 4: for like a decade plus, and there was a reason

2239
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 4: to be annoyed with the pitch versus the product in

2240
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 4: past years. They're beating teams in every possible way, and

2241
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 4: and and they just went and did it to the Eagles,

2242
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 4: who It's like, that's what I needed to see.

2243
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm good.

2244
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 5: So the Eagles are now ten and three. There's a

2245
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 5: an instinct to say, Okay, well, you just got through

2246
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 5: the toughest five game stretch any team's gonna have all season,

2247
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 5: and you went three and two, which isn't you know,

2248
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 5: if you look take a step back, and it's not

2249
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 5: too embarrassing. You know, you got those wins against the Cowboys.

2250
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 5: He split with the Cowboys against the Bills. Who's the

2251
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 5: other one that I'm missing in their Chiefs the Chiefs.

2252
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 5: And then you know, you lose these two games.

2253
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 2: But you lost these two games by a combined score

2254
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 2: of seventy three two.

2255
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're get just getting tired. And next and yes,

2256
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 5: their last three games of the season are easy, but

2257
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 5: next week you're in Seattle. So like I give I

2258
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 5: actually give them a slight edge to win the division

2259
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 5: just because of the schedule, and that would make all

2260
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 5: the difference in the world. And I think they're a

2261
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 5: veteran enough team that they could kind of gather their

2262
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 5: forces and improve from now until the playoffs and end

2263
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 5: up being very dangerous in the playoffs. But right now

2264
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 5: they're not a great team. They're too deficient defensively. At

2265
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 5: one point, they had given up a score on nine

2266
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 5: straight drives. I think they ended up finishing that game.

2267
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 5: They've now given up a score on twelve out of

2268
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 5: fourteen drives. I mean, it's just they're just not a

2269
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,879
Speaker 5: great good enough They're just not a good enough defense

2270
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 5: right now, and the offense, at least tonight. One thing

2271
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 5: that they put on tape that they won't be happy

2272
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 5: with is they had no answer for the zero blitz,

2273
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 5: just like the Cowboys just kept doing it over and

2274
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 5: over and they didn't really have good answers for it.

2275
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 6: There are we going?

2276
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I think you know exactly where we're going.

2277
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Cowboys are not that dissimilar to the forty nine ers,

2278
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 2: and that they can come at you in waves with

2279
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: big time players and stars, and they have unearthed a major.

2280
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 3: Star in their special teams.

2281
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 2: It's Brandon Aubrey, the former soccer player who was What's

2282
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 2: They all have great backstories.

2283
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 3: He was on accountant or something for a brief.

2284
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 5: Period software manager after his pro soccer career didn't go well,

2285
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 5: and then his wife said, watching foot like you could

2286
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 5: do this, So we just practiced for.

2287
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Three years to see.

2288
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 2: A great wife will take you great places, including to

2289
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 2: the top of the kicking power rankings.

2290
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Four for four in this game with a long of sixty.

2291
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: Also hit a fifty nine yarder, also hit a fifty yarder.

2292
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 2: And he's piping these kicks and he yes, it's bottle service.

2293
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 3: It is straight.

2294
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 2: All friends allowed in, the girls coming in with the

2295
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 2: big signs and everything, and the sparklers like Brandon Aubrey

2296
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 2: gets all of it in the Kicker Club tonight.

2297
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 3: And if I may be a little.

2298
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: More serious, this game could have turned out differently in

2299
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 2: the second half if not for Aubrey's greatness, because after

2300
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 2: the Jalen Carter scoop and score makes this a game?

2301
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: What's the score at that point?

2302
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,400
Speaker 2: After actually twenty three to fourteen? Yeah, twenty three fourteen.

2303
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: The Cowboys get the ball twenty four thirteen. They make

2304
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 2: a couple of plays and then the drive stalls on

2305
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: the Eagles side of the field. Zaddy decides to bring

2306
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 2: out Aubrey for this bomb from fifty nine. And if

2307
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 2: he doesn't make that kick, the Eagles are coming off

2308
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 2: a defensive score and they have the ball at midfield,

2309
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: and you just don't know what could happen. But the

2310
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 2: fact that he made that kick it kind of calmed

2311
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 2: everything down. And when you have a kicker that you

2312
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 2: can rely on the way Zaddy can rely on Aubrey,

2313
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 2: He's like a legitimate weapon and one of the biggest

2314
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 2: stories for this team this year.

2315
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to close the game out with three field

2316
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 4: goals from him. And these are drives that ended at

2317
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 4: the Philly forty one, twenty seven, and thirty two. So

2318
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 4: Dallas wasn't able to knock out punch with Ceedee Lamb

2319
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 4: or Tony Pollard or fill in the blank.

2320
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: But each of those drives ate up five plus minutes.

2321
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 4: So in a way, like I thought, he was the

2322
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 4: executioner in this and kept chipping away and taking the

2323
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 4: life away from Philadelphia.

2324
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 1: He's thirty for thirty on field.

2325
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 5: Forget about Tucker being on top of the list. We

2326
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 5: got a new one. Not right, I mean that's one

2327
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 5: hundred percent. I know he doesn't quite qualify, but not yet,

2328
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 5: got it. They just have so many elite players. When

2329
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 5: they were showing, you know at the beginning when they

2330
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 5: do the starting lineups and they show the PFI gres Yeah,

2331
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 5: I know PFF's not perfect, well, but I just it's

2332
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 5: like Dak number one out of thirty four, quarterback Tyler

2333
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 5: Smith number one out of forty something, guards Tyron Smith

2334
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 5: number one out of forty something. Tackles Ceedee Lamb number

2335
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 5: three out of one hundred and fifteen wide receivers. Just

2336
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 5: like that's a lot of elite players. Now Aubrey maybe

2337
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 5: number one right now out and.

2338
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 2: You wonder why Jarah Jara's box is shaking with everyone

2339
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 2: celebrating because they have put together a monster team there.

2340
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 3: And it should be said, I got it. I went

2341
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 3: through all that.

2342
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 2: Aubrey is the first kicker to make a fifty nine

2343
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 2: and sixty yard field goal in the same game.

2344
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: So that that's history a pretty.

2345
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 4: Crazy yeah, Like I kind of was thinking, wait, that's

2346
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 4: never happened before. But to your post sums, Yeah, that's

2347
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 4: just those kicks weren't really being attempted in the in

2348
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 4: ages of old.

2349
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 5: I mean until like ten years ago, a fifty nine

2350
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 5: yard er there probably was less than ten in NFL history.

2351
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 6: Imagine like ten years ago, thousands of people.

2352
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: This is the final week of the regular season in

2353
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 2: fantasy that went into Sunday Night Football. Their opponent just

2354
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 2: had a kicker and they had an eighteen point lead.

2355
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 2: You lose, as Brandon Aubrey literally makes history crazy, So

2356
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 2: big win for the Cowboys.

2357
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 6: Forty nine ers now in great position for the one.

2358
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 3: Seed Niners in the driver's seat.

2359
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 2: But the Cowboys right behind him if there's a slip up,

2360
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 2: and yes, the Eagles very much in the mix as well.

2361
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be a great ending to this regular

2362
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 2: season in the NFC. Before we say goodbye, I want

2363
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 2: to circle back because I thought the quotes are strong

2364
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: enough from Mahomes on the situation at the end of

2365
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 2: the game, and we were noticing on Twitter people were

2366
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 2: doing lip reading. And by the way, John Boy Jimmy

2367
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: O'Brien does have siblings.

2368
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a younger brother and two sisters.

2369
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Rose confirmed that.

2370
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: But I don't know if any of them are willing

2371
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 2: to or even have the ability to help us out

2372
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 2: in that way for lip syncing or lip reading in

2373
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 2: the NFL.

2374
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: But we'll stay on top of that story.

2375
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 2: Here is Mahomes, who what he was so furious about

2376
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: was it seems like not that von Miller bake off

2377
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 2: sides as much, it was that they called that on

2378
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 2: Tony and given obviously the play that wiped out.

2379
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: In that moment.

2380
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 20: I mean I've played seven years, never had that, never

2381
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 20: had offensive all side. It's called I mean, that's the

2382
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 20: that's elementary school we talk about. I mean, you point

2383
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 20: to the ref do all that different type of stuff

2384
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 20: and it doesn't get called, and if it does, they

2385
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 20: warn you. And there was no warning throughout the entire game.

2386
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:24,640
Speaker 20: And then you wait till there's a minute left in

2387
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 20: the game to make a call like that. It's just tough, man,

2388
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 20: I mean lost for words. Man, It's just tough because

2389
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 20: regardless if we want to lose, man, just just for

2390
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 20: it to end up with another game and we're talking

2391
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 20: about the refs. Man, it's just not what we want

2392
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 20: for the NFL and for football.

2393
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 2: And again, this is out of character for Mahomes to

2394
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 2: be this outspoken, but also what he says here about

2395
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 2: what Kelsey did on that play. And that's why as

2396
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Speaker 2: a football fan, Greg, I know, because you would pick

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Speaker 2: the Bills, but like to have that exciting play wiped away.

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Speaker 2: You understand the frustration. And I thought Mahomes summed that

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Speaker 2: up well.

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Speaker 20: I mean, it's a legendary moment, man, I mean, no,

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01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 20: something that's not taught something and only a couple of

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01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 20: people in this world would even think about doing. And

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01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 20: for him to make that play in that moment, miss

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01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 20: making the catch, making a couple dudes missed, and throwing

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01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 20: the ball across the field to another guy and scoring

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01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 20: a touchdown in that moment. I hope they still show

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01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 20: it whenever, whenever he goes into the Hall of Fame,

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01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 20: because that's that's a legendary moment that we didn't get to,

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01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 20: didn't get to really witness.

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Speaker 1: Calls back to what you said earlier, Mark, what is

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01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: it that I said like one more point and then

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a play that was wiped away by penalty?

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Speaker 1: You and Pat mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I, first of all, if he I

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01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,679
Speaker 4: trust him to point out like an inconsistency in this call,

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01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it is if it's not something

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01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:45,759
Speaker 4: that we see and like, I don't know like it.

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01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 4: It was so frustrating and it's another last week. It

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01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 4: feels like that game against Green Bay was a million

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01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 4: years ago, but like that game was torn down by

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01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 4: really wacky officiating, Like it stood out as one of

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01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,080
Speaker 4: the worst games of the year officiating, and then this

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Speaker 4: happened in this moment.

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Speaker 2: Is the call wrong technically no, should the officials maybe

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Speaker 2: get the hell out.

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01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: Of the way.

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Speaker 4: But the nuance he mentioned about, like there are kind

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01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 4: of an agreement between the officials.

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Speaker 5: You usually warned usually the players are looking over to

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01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 5: the side. We don't know if that happened. Like you

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01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 5: also can't give the warning if like Tony wasn't out

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01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 5: there and doing that in similar spots. And he has

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01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 5: not been playing much in recent weeks. I don't know

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01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 5: what his snapcount was in this game, but it's been

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01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 5: like under twenty snaps in general.

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Speaker 6: Most of these weeks.

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Speaker 5: And he was so far off sides he was blocking

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01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,799
Speaker 5: the view the official. So it wasn't like it was close.

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01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 5: He was way on the other side. So I understand

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01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 5: Mahomes points.

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01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: Way on the other side is strong, but it puts on.

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Speaker 5: The line in that the his head is blocking, is

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01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 5: blocking the official. I just mean there has been it

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01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 5: seems to me an emphasis. So we checked the numbers

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01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 5: and there has been thirteen offensive offsides called this year,

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01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 5: which doesn't sound like much.

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Speaker 6: That's one per.

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01:48:56,520 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 5: Week, but that's ten more than the two previous seasons combined.

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Speaker 5: So it was a call that they never used, and

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Speaker 5: I wish, I wish I could remember, but this was

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01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 5: called in a big spot just last week, and I

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 5: was looking for it, trying to find it, and and

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01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 5: it wasn't. But it has been happening here and there

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01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,919
Speaker 5: and I think it's the frustration of the whole season.

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01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 6: Is just it's part of it.

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01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 5: It is sure because and this is a safe way

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01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 5: to take out some of that anger.

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01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 2: Then he said, I I held my nose or I

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01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,600
Speaker 2: didn't say anything after that controversial Packers game, but this

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01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 2: time I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And it is.

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Speaker 5: Brilliant from Kelsey that that was not a play call.

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Speaker 5: That is something Kelsey just awesome does. It is freaking crazy.

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Speaker 1: It didn't count, And I know Eric, Eric agrees that

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Speaker 1: that should have been a touchdown because you're a man

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Speaker 1: of integrity.

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Speaker 2: All I know is the side of the glass to

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01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 2: and O in these games you guys are talking about.

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01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 1: Was on the right side.

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01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,639
Speaker 2: We've actually not been listening to anything you've been saying

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Speaker 2: last ten minutes, So.

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Speaker 1: That's all right, untrue of previous producer.

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Speaker 3: Right, you guys have to listen to plenty of honey

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Speaker 3: from us.

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Speaker 6: The play was amazing.

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Speaker 2: I will give him that Tiki tak Yes, definitely, but hey,

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01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 2: rules of the rules get out of the way.

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01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel you, but listen. If if I was

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01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 1: a Bills fan, I'd be exactly the same as you.

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01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 1: But as a football fan.

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01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn it that the countless of these games

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01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 2: go the other way against the Bills and we're fashioned.

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01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 3: So this one I'm get it. Man, take it.

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01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Take it when you can get.

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01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 2: You have nothing to apologize for. Thanks football fans like this.

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01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,600
Speaker 2: Greg's like, yes, I have a pick in one of

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01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 2: my seventeen things I'm doing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's seventeen slightly game debut. Check it out

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01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 6: and the locks. Let's go all right?

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Speaker 1: All right. That is the Sunday flagship program. Hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday on NFL Plus Game of

2494
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 2: the Week and also our Monday Night podcast, which is

2495
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 2: a news rundown and two Monday Night football game.

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Speaker 1: What that's a real thing?

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Speaker 13: Why?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Heed the call.