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Speaker 2: Men that we want in our locker room. Tender sapit

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Speaker 3: Game day is every day.

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Speaker 2: I love the energy pick by Stingley Portray.

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Speaker 2: Pit and if you want it, you gotta go work now.

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Speaker 3: It's Texans all xys, Hello Texans.

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Speaker 2: We are working tonight live from the hun Day Texans

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Speaker 2: Radio Studio, the mobile studio, Mark Vandermere with you with

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Speaker 2: John Harris and the General John McClain. Excited to get

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Speaker 2: into it tonight as we have a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 2: I'm back and I missed you last week. General, who

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Speaker 2: joins us every Thursday night. Now next week we're gonna

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Speaker 2: work out. General. We have to talk about this offline

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Speaker 2: because next week's a weird week. This office is closed

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Speaker 2: But let's get into this right now because it was

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Speaker 2: an AFC South. I don't want to call it a

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Speaker 2: I called it a news dart day, but it's bombs

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Speaker 4: Well, none of those guys have anything to do with

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Speaker 5: If they did, they wouldn't have cut him. You know,

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Speaker 4: Johnson Taylor, you think they would have cut him. Of

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Speaker 4: course they wouldn't. And same thing with the Jaguars. Only

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Speaker 4: big news that I've heard that could hurt a team Robinson,

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Speaker 4: the offensive tackle from the Jaguars, being suspended for four

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Speaker 4: games for pe DE violations. You know, the guys know

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Speaker 4: it out. But if you break the rules, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: pay the penalty. If the NFL really wanted to end

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Speaker 4: the problem, they would tell every employee you cannot bet

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Speaker 5: That's the way it used to be, and you didn't

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Speaker 4: But now, because they're bringing in so many billions of

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Speaker 4: dollars and I've already it's hypocritical. No, it's not hypocritical.

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Speaker 4: Players are making more money, and part of that's because

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Speaker 4: players get paid more, and the rules are clear, and

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Speaker 6: The problem for the Jacksonville Jaguars is Cam Robinson, which

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Speaker 1: It's peds. But it's four games.

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Speaker 6: They did draft Anton Harrison, and he's gonna be I

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Speaker 4: I remember clown he told me one time, everybody keeps

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Speaker 4: Everybody's so fired up about the Texans. People up there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: All right, General, I was playing pickup basketball this week

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Speaker 5: And you'd love to the inside guys. Maggie tell you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole situation you just described just perplexes me instinctly.

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Speaker 2: And Johnny and I do too. We have a video

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Speaker 5: Bit about hold up bart.

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Speaker 4: When we get Nick before training camp for his first

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Speaker 5: And I'm asking him if it's at the cleaners.

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Speaker 2: me this. JJ Watt announced that he was working for

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Speaker 5: I think he'll be great.

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Speaker 4: Problem is those pregame shows have way too many people

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Speaker 5: That is young.

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Speaker 4: Those preows needs some young people. I'm surprised Amazon didn't

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I never thought Joe Montana had been any good, and

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I love Tony Dunchee, but he didn't

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Speaker 4: I thought Drew Brees analytical, informative humor, a great sense

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Speaker 5: I thought Eric Winston would be great. Eric Winston was good,

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Speaker 5: he was sharp, he was funny, He worked hard.

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Speaker 5: He's one of my all time favorites, just like Eric Winston.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this. He's doing a podcast for us

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Speaker 2: He's got one coming out with Big Sarge, who's in

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Speaker 6: General Mark and I were talking about this the other

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Speaker 6: But both of them that we looked at, and the

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Speaker 1: But is there any way they're one of the two

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: don't give a ratch, you know what about anything?

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Speaker 4: Anybody says about the Texans' rankings, where they rank talent wise,

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Speaker 4: what they think their record will be, and the worst

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Speaker 4: they're ranked, the better. It's be for Damiko and the

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Speaker 4: coaches to point out what little respect they're getting.

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Speaker 5: Now, go out there and earn it.

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Speaker 2: General help me out with this, and it's a great

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Speaker 2: sports perspective. Question slash thought on the Houston Astros here

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Speaker 2: they are. I know, it's not a great season for

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Speaker 2: them so far. We're three months in just about there

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Speaker 2: are six games above five hundred. They had that win

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Speaker 2: last night baseball, so day to day there's so many games.

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Speaker 2: Are people over reacting to what is not a great

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Speaker 2: season right now when there's so much time left and

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Speaker 2: it's very franchised. When I think about four and five

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Speaker 2: where they came back from huge horrible situations those years,

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Speaker 2: especially four when they needed to what go thirty six

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Speaker 2: and ten down the stretch to make the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: they eventually won their first playoff series? Are people overreacting

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Speaker 2: to them? There's plenty of time left. That's my thought.

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Speaker 2: What is your thought on it?

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Speaker 4: One of the things I like about my job as

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Speaker 4: a columnist from Sports Radio sixteen. I write mostly about

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Speaker 4: the Texans, But I can write about the Astros, and

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Speaker 4: now I wrote about them this week because they've been

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Speaker 4: a huge disappointment in June two four game losing strikes.

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Speaker 4: They started three to zero and just bottomed out last night.

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Speaker 4: Your bullpen, which was the best in baseball last year,

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Speaker 4: that has been woefully inconsistent without having the injury issues

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Speaker 4: as the starting staff or the regular lineup with alvaresbian

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Speaker 4: out and Michael Brandley, but he hadn't played so long

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Speaker 4: it's almost forgot about him. And the bullpen last night

467
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Speaker 4: was great, five innings, one run. Christian Xavier was terrible

468
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Speaker 4: the night before fromer Valdez, their best pitcher, he was terrible.

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Speaker 4: If you can't count on your big three of waldieas

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Speaker 4: Javier and Hunter Brown, you're gonna be in trouble. So

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Speaker 4: they don't have the talent. They had seven pitchers last

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Speaker 4: year counting Hunter Brown. Now they've got three, and they've

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Speaker 4: got JP France has gone above and beyond his twenty

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Speaker 4: eight year old rookie, and they got some of their

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Speaker 4: best hitters have not been hitting, but last night they

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Speaker 4: got him clutch hitting. They got great bullpen, and if

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Speaker 4: they could do that more consistently, you know, they could

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Speaker 4: win a wild card berth. Last year we saw how

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Speaker 4: all these teams that didn't win their divisions, how well

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Speaker 4: they did, including the Phillies who took the Astros to

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Speaker 4: six games in the World Series. And your question mark,

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Speaker 4: I've always believed that if a team does well, you

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Speaker 4: praise them, you say why. If they do poorly and

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Speaker 4: you criticize them, and you say why. Now, in football

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Speaker 4: you do a game to game. To me, and baseball

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Speaker 4: it's like week to week. I have so many people

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Speaker 4: will email me say you're so negative.

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Speaker 5: Look what you know?

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Speaker 4: They're the defending world champions. I say, yeah, what does

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Speaker 4: that have to do with this season? It might help

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Speaker 4: them the playoffs, the experience and the big three pitchers.

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Speaker 4: If they're better and more consistent, that'll help them a lot.

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Speaker 4: But right now, I don't think it's unfair to criticize

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Speaker 4: them when they deserve it.

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Speaker 2: All right, General, thanks so much for the time as always,

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Speaker 2: and we look forward to reading your stuff on sports

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Speaker 2: Radio six ten dot com and hearing you and the

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Speaker 2: Utopia podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much, Thank you guys very much as all.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, who's better? Let's do it? We

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Speaker 2: have division stuff, we have Techans position groups stuff, and

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Speaker 2: also the Rockets make it appearance and Who's Better. It's

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Speaker 2: all coming up here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 3: Texans All Access continues in a moment, back to the

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Speaker 3: show that teach you plugged in with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're keeping it going with Who's Better? Mark

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Speaker 2: VanderMeer and John Harris with you live on Texans Radio. Here, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: Who's better? Let's start here, Who's better? Titans D or

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Speaker 2: Jags D? And I'm gonna go fully healthy as the

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Speaker 2: caveat there. And last year yardage wise, let's get to

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Speaker 2: this here. Last year, and I know things change year

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Speaker 2: to year. Blah blah blah. We know this. The Colts

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Speaker 2: had the best defense yardage wise, right, I didn't know

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Speaker 2: that right off the top of my head, followed by

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Speaker 2: the Titans, Jaguars, and the Texans. But in scoring defense

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Speaker 2: it was a different story. The Jags got the nod

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Speaker 2: there that all important point scored tends to be a

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Speaker 2: very important statistic in sports and points allowed, and they

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Speaker 2: allowed the fewest in the AFC South, followed by the

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Speaker 2: Titans and the Colts and then the Houston Actually the

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Speaker 2: Texans were slightly ahead of the Colts by point four

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Speaker 2: of a point less than half a point, but they

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Speaker 2: did it. Anyway, your thoughts, who's better Titans D or

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Speaker 2: Jags D?

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Speaker 1: I think about it this way, which defense scares me more?

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Speaker 6: Like when we're getting ready for a game, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 6: all right, which which one scares me more? And it's

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Speaker 6: the Titans. The Titans, especially because of upfront. I think

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Speaker 6: the Jaguars front front four at hea'st good. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think Trayvon Walker will be I was actually talking

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Speaker 6: to some guys in Jacksonville day and they're pretty excited

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Speaker 6: about what Traymon Walker can do in his second year,

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Speaker 6: and I agree. I think Trayvon Walker is gonna be

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Speaker 6: a handful this year. Maybe not early, but I think

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Speaker 6: he starts to kind of get it as the year

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Speaker 6: goes on. So hopefully we get it in week three

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Speaker 6: and then we'll get him at home later in the year.

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Speaker 6: But I think the Jags, I mean, Josh Alleny outside

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Speaker 6: solid player. I don't think he's ever become the elite

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Speaker 6: guy they've wanted, but he's a good player, solid player.

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Speaker 6: Ray Robertson Harris I think is very good. I think

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Speaker 6: he's underrated. I think the linebackers Alukun is tremendous. He's

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Speaker 6: he was tremendous. But I think beyond that, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, I'm not really scared of anybody.

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Speaker 6: The Titans front with Autrey tier Tart, Jeffrey Simmons, a

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Speaker 6: healthy Harold Landry, that front eight our lunch in Houston,

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Speaker 6: ate our lunch, and let's be honest, the ate our

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Speaker 6: lunch in the second game too. It's just that the

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Speaker 6: defense held up, made Tennessee make some mistakes and took

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Speaker 6: advantage of them, and then just enough in the fourth

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Speaker 6: quarter throwing the football so they could get away from

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Speaker 6: that front. But I think the Titans front scares me

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Speaker 6: more than anything. And I do think the Jaguars secondary

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Speaker 6: is solid, but I think the Titans secondary is just okay.

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Speaker 1: But it's that front. It's those four guys up front.

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Speaker 6: Man, they just they worry and scare me more than

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Speaker 6: anything else.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Titans because that front is that good?

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Speaker 2: All right? Who's better? Better improvement for the Houston Texans

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Speaker 2: offense or defense? Both last year? I know we have

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Speaker 2: new players here, but both last year finished near the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the league defense slightly better than the offense.

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Speaker 2: I'll simplify it that way for radio purposes. Who's gonna

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Speaker 2: have more improvement this year, Texans offense or Texans defense.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna end up being a defense.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like last year there were some moments,

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Speaker 6: I mean they were probably with two three games after

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Speaker 6: Malie Collins got hurt, where teams just ran the ball

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Speaker 6: whenever they wanted to. I don't think that's happening this year,

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Speaker 6: whether Malik's in the lineup or not. I think with

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Speaker 6: Sheldon Rankins, I think with San Ridgeway, I thought Roy

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Speaker 6: Lopez played his best football.

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Speaker 1: Second half of the year.

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Speaker 6: I thought the defense was much better the second half

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Speaker 6: of the year, or I should say probably after Malik

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Speaker 6: got back after he.

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Speaker 1: Had been injured. I felt like the defense got better.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't great.

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Speaker 6: I thought the tackling was not so good, especially in

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Speaker 6: the secondary. And I think Jalen Petrie cleans up his tackles.

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Speaker 6: He's got Jimmy Warden next to him, who can do

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Speaker 6: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of different things.

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Speaker 6: Sting playing seventeen games is gonna be big. I think

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Speaker 6: it's easier for a defense to kind of find its

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Speaker 6: high water mark earlier than the offense. I think that

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Speaker 6: the offense will start to really show signs a loft

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Speaker 6: the second half of the year, and I think first

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Speaker 6: half of the.

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Speaker 1: Year it's gonna be some bumps. And because the schedule

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Speaker 1: is not that easy easy either.

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Speaker 6: You play Ravens week one, You've got Colts at home

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Speaker 6: week two, go to Jacksonville week three, week four as Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 6: It's not an easy way to start. So I expect

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Speaker 6: them to have some hiccups. But look, defense, you play

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Speaker 6: the scheme and you play it hard, and you bend

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Speaker 6: your back and you you know, you kind of bow

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Speaker 6: your neck a little bit once you get in the

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Speaker 6: red zone and forced me kick field goals. Okay, defensively,

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Speaker 6: it can look a little different than it did last year.

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Speaker 6: I think this Defenn's gonna do more than that. I

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Speaker 6: think it's gonna be more than a more than a

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Speaker 6: bend but don't break defense. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a playmaking type of defense, but maybe not at first.

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Speaker 6: But I think they will hit their stride sooner than

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Speaker 6: the offense will, and I think that's just natural. But

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Speaker 6: I just think with this group, I feel like that's

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Speaker 6: kind of the way the defense will go. So I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna go defense making strides quicker than the offense.

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Speaker 2: Okay, who's better better chance to make the playoffs? The

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Speaker 2: Texans or the Rockets? And we don't know who the

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Speaker 2: Rockets are adding, so you just have to go on

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Speaker 2: the fly here, big boy, what do you got better

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Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs? Houston Texans or Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think just percentages would say the Rockets, because

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Speaker 6: you know, the playing game is that playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's postseason, I guess, so you've got a

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Speaker 6: better mathematical opportunity to make it with the Rockets. But

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Speaker 6: I was talking to I was talking to Buddy Mine today,

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Speaker 6: had lunch with a couple of guys, my two favorite

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Speaker 6: dons in the world, and I was talking with them

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Speaker 6: and they were asking me, and I was like, you know,

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Speaker 6: they basically said, how are they different from last year?

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Speaker 1: And I started going through different things.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I think I think they'll have better offensive

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Speaker 6: play all across the board. I think the offensive line

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Speaker 6: will be better. I think defensively they'll be much better.

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Speaker 6: They've added pieces here here here, I think coaching with

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Speaker 6: the meek, starting with the Miko. I think that's gonna

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Speaker 6: be better. Overall, talents better, and then last and.

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Speaker 1: Certainly not least. The schedule's never easy, and it's never

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Speaker 1: easier better.

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Speaker 6: But I just look at the schedule on paper and think,

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Speaker 6: that's not last year's schedule. Last year's schedule was brutal.

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Speaker 6: You look at the home games this year, Broncos, Cardinals

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Speaker 6: division games. Now, you didn't win any division games at

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Speaker 6: home last year, but you want them all on the

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Speaker 6: road and their vision teams, so they shouldn't really scare you.

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Speaker 6: I don't know there's anybody at the home schedule. I

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Speaker 6: look at it and go, oh yeah, they frightened me.

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Speaker 6: No one Now Bengals, Ravens, Okay, yeah, Jets potentially those

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Speaker 6: teams on the road, Okay, it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: What's on the road on the road is tough.

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Speaker 6: And then you've thrown the fact they're the best teams,

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Speaker 6: you know, three to ten, Jacksonville whatever. But the home schedule, man,

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Speaker 6: you got an opportunity Saints and Bucks. I mean, you've

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Speaker 6: got a really good opportunity here at home to really

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Speaker 6: kind of make a statement like, hey, you come into

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Speaker 6: our place, you're not gonna do well, you know, and

651
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 6: you play nine games at home, so you know, if

652
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 6: you get hot at home and you get to a

653
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 6: point where the home field advantage is working for you, hey,

654
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 6: you got an opportunity to turn this thing around. So

655
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Speaker 6: I and look, you got to get to the seven seed.

656
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 6: What's at nine and eight? Whatever the wild card is

657
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 6: gonna be, just get it. Just have a chance to

658
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 6: get in the dance. But I think mathematically, I think

659
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 6: gets the rockets. So we'll see what they do in

660
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: free agency. Fred van Vliet, We'll see Brook Lopez. Maybe

661
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 6: maybe they gotta maybe they gotta deal up their sleeve.

662
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: We'll see.

663
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: But I'm Adoka, I'm a adoka.

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Speaker 6: And Demico Ryans coming in to coach these two teams

665
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 6: is one of the best things has happened to these

666
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 6: Cities team.

667
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: It was good to have those two coming.

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00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: It's great. It is great. And by the way, for

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Speaker 2: those listeners who are sports radio listeners, hardened did pick

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00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: up the option trades being explored now with Harden and

671
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: the Sixers? All right, who's better? You and Drew Doerty

672
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: didn't in the lab And I'm very upset that I

673
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: wasn't included in this drafting movie athletes for the Houston Texans.

674
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: But I'll go here, who's better better movie quarterback? And

675
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: I'll go at the high school level to keep it even.

676
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: Sunshine from remember the Titans or Jonathan Moxon in varsity Blues,

677
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: who was a backup but obviously did great things once

678
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: he got in there. So you tell me who's the

679
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: better quarterback.

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00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 6: Okay, you gotta give the leadership angle to Moxon.

681
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Better in a huddle.

682
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 6: You gotta give Moxie calm poise to Sunshine. Overall throwing

683
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 6: ability goes to mox option running ability goes to Sunshine.

684
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: I think overall athletic ability has got to be a

685
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: big check.

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00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: Mark, maybe two for Sunshine. So I'm gonna go because

687
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 6: I was always an option guy. Even though Jonathan Moxon

688
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 6: did go to Brown and I should be on his side,

689
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 6: I'm not on this one.

690
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm going Sunshine over mocks all day, every day.

691
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh really, and with you too. I mean, he's such

692
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: a good athlete, right, and he could throw a ball

693
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: across a field and hit somebody in the back if

694
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: he needs to. Yes, So that's a good skill to

695
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: have as well. That's that's a good all right. So

696
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: Mac Davis in North Dallas forty or Willy Beaman. Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna go there.

698
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, did you see.

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Speaker 6: My initial My initial reaction is to go with the

700
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 6: gunsling They're both kind of gunslinger ish.

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00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: Mac Davis was, boy, he was, he was good.

702
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 6: I'd probably go with mac Davis on this one longer stretch,

703
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 6: longer stretch of being successful than Willy Beaman. Willy Beaman

704
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 6: just had a run, you know. I mean, how many

705
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: quarterbacks have we seen the NFL that had a run,

706
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 6: you know, six seven games. Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty seventeen

707
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 6: had a six game run. You know, Willy Beaman had

708
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 6: his run. But long term, that was mac Davis. I'm

709
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 6: going Mac Davis, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's an old movie. North Dallas forty, my gosh, nineteen

711
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: seventy nine, that is ancient. I mean, all these other

712
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: sports movies are old enough. The sports movie genre is

713
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: not the same as it was. It's evolved, it's changed.

714
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: Everything does. But we love those movies like remember the

715
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Titans Varsity Blues. The list is endless. All right, Let's

716
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: do this next and talk about the division hits that

717
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: happened today and who took it the worst, and also

718
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: how JJ might do with that CBS crew time permitting,

719
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Speaker 2: it's Texans Radio.

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Speaker 3: More Texans Radio is on the way. We returned to

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Speaker 3: Texans all excess.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you, John,

723
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 2: You with me? That Petit Ferrer out for six weeks,

724
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: so the Titans is kind of a big deal really,

725
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: considering their offensive line issues. It's almost as if Cam

726
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: Robinson has no picnic for the Jags to lose him

727
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: for four games with the ped suspension. But I feel

728
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: like they might be able to absorb that more than

729
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: the Titans, who really need to get off to a

730
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: good start and establish something upfront with the old line,

731
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: and having no Petite Farrer there for six weeks is

732
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: a big factor.

733
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Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think Petit Ferrer was great last year.

734
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: I was not.

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00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 6: I've never been a big fan of his, always coming

736
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 6: out of Ohio State. There was a part of me

737
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 6: sort of glad he ended up in Tennessee because I

738
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: thought in due time the Texans would take advantage of him.

739
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 6: But that offense line, it's kind of slim pickens as

740
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 6: it is. I mean, they drafted Scaransky, but I think

741
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 6: he'll play guard now. They may move him out to

742
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 6: tackle because because because petit Frere is not there. But

743
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 6: they went and got Daniel bruns Go at guard. They

744
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 6: went and got Andre Dillard at left tackle. They'll probably

745
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 6: go a Brewer at center. And they probably felt good

746
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 6: with Skroonsky at guard and petite Ferrer on the outside.

747
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 6: They probably felt okay about that. It's not the world's

748
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 6: greatest line, but they probably felt okay about that. But

749
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 6: it's kind of razor thin. They've got nothing from Dylan

750
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 6: raid Ons. They drafted Jalen Duncan, so I don't know.

751
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 6: I think Skoronsky probably moves out the tackle or stays

752
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: out of right tackle, and then they they wait on

753
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 6: petite Ferrer and maybe that works out for them because

754
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 6: maybe Scarronsky should just stay at tackle. I don't know,

755
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 6: but I just feel like, A they do not have

756
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 6: elite talent on an offensive line. B. They don't have

757
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 6: much depth at all, so I think it could be

758
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 6: it could be tough going and I'm okay with that.

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00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: I think that's big. I think Cam Robinson for four

760
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: games is just as big.

761
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 6: But they they have kind of a safety net. They

762
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 6: drafted Anton Harrison to be their starting tackle at some point.

763
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 6: They have Walker Little who's the second rounder a few

764
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 6: years ago, who went to Houston Episcopal over in bel Air. He's,

765
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 6: you know, that much more removed from the injuries he's

766
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 6: had his career, and when he's healthy, he could be special.

767
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 6: So I think the Jaguars are probably better suited to

768
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 6: handle the loss of those those tackles than the Titans are.

769
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: I think the Titans are They're gonna get him back

770
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 6: after six games. But man, wow, this is this is

771
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 6: one of those times I wish we could catch the

772
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 6: Titans a lot earlier than we were.

773
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Catching him, to be honest, Yeah, of course it's late

774
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: in the season. Both those matchups with the Tennessee Titans.

775
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: Texans five to one on the road in the division

776
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: in the last two years in one of those weird stats,

777
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: despite the fact that they only won three games last year,

778
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: four games the year before and for the year before that. Okay,

779
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: JJ in the CBS studio show good plays for him.

780
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: Would you rather see him doing games? I mean he's

781
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: going to get to pick what he wants to do,

782
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: and that's what he picked. What are your thoughts on it?

783
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 6: Well, John said it best. He's thirty four years old,

784
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 6: so he's a lot younger than you and I. So

785
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 6: he can try things on for sage. You know, he

786
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 6: can try the Studio Show and if it's like, eh,

787
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 6: you know, I think I think Chris collins Work did that,

788
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 6: didn't he didn't. He start in the Studio Show and

789
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 6: then it was like, hey, you know, put me on

790
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 6: the middle road, put me in the booth. Uh, And

791
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 6: he started doing games. And Chris Collinsworth has turned into

792
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 6: one of the one of the voices that you know,

793
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 6: we hear in a national level each and every Sunday.

794
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 6: And he's he's been very very good at it. So

795
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 6: I think JJ will try try things out and how

796
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: it goes. Is he liked being the Studio Show? Is

797
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 6: he Here's the thing with the Studio Show, he's he's

798
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 6: not gonna get much time he I mean, those shows

799
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 6: are you know, they've cut those shows a little bit,

800
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 6: which they needed to. But you've got you know JB

801
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 6: set everything up. Then you got you know, Bill, then

802
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 6: you've got Phil Simms. You got Nate burleson and now

803
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 6: you throw JJ in the mix. So how tough is

804
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 6: it to be able to say anything? You know, you

805
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: and I can go for an hour and we get

806
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 6: it all out. They're gonna be on for an hour

807
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 6: and JJ's gonna have like thirty things that he wanted

808
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 6: to say, So he might.

809
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: Be better suited.

810
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: I don't want you to hold it too long either, right,

811
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: So he might be better suited to go.

812
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 6: Into the you know, the game broadcasting booth. But yeah,

813
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: we'll see. I think he could be great at both.

814
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: I think his humor could lend towards being really good

815
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 6: in the studio show for sure. But I think eventually

816
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 6: if he wanted to do games, I think he would

817
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 6: be very very good in breaking things down, looking at

818
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 6: life from alignment's perspective, which we don't have a lot

819
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 6: of those.

820
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of those, and that's.

821
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Speaker 6: What made John Madden was revered because he would talk

822
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 6: about the lineman. He would talk about the big fat

823
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 6: guys and what they were going through because that's what

824
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 6: he was. Maybe JJ could be that kind of guy

825
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 6: to say, hey, take a look at the big fat

826
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 6: guys A little differently than you were used to.

827
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Maybe people will be you know, endeared to JJ in

828
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: the same way.

829
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 6: But start out studio show, see how it goes, and

830
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 6: then move on, move on to the game booth, because

831
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Speaker 6: I think that's where's gonna eventually end up.

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00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: Anyways, boy, you.

833
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: Make a good point, and so did John about not

834
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: being able to talk for long, because I did a

835
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: pre season show once and I think McClain was on

836
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: it too, but it was an out of town group

837
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: doing it in Houston. Somehow they were contracted out by

838
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: it might have been Khou and they were drilling us

839
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: on You've got twelve seconds to make this point. Twelve

840
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: seconds and we would start talking, and if you had

841
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: it at twenty, it was still too long. And that's

842
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: what those shows are like. They want quick comments. We

843
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: got to go to break. It's really aggravating, I think,

844
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: as opposed to if he was on Pat McAfee, you

845
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: can just stretch out and say whatever you want. You

846
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: got two three hours to say everything you need to say.

847
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: So it's a good point you make. The money's gonna

848
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: be fantastic for him, and we'll see what he ultimately does.

849
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of choices to make, so I'm

850
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing him there, and I'm looking forward

851
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 2: to seeing him when the Texans take on the Steelers,

852
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: and I just think it's gonna be interesting that day.

853
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how the Texans are going to do

854
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: the ceremony with TJ, and maybe Derek there too, but

855
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: certainly TJ at the half. Does TJ go into the

856
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: locker room? I Betty would, So I'm not sure how

857
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna handle everything, maybe do something pregame, but I

858
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: am here for it all right. We're also here for

859
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: a show tomorrow and next week a lot of fun.

860
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: Show's got a lot of good audio coming up. Among

861
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: the highlights for next week Texans town Hall meeting that

862
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: took place June and seventh. We've got the audio and

863
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to hear it, and it's on next

864
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Speaker 2: week on Texans All Access. I'll set up the day

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Speaker 2: for you. We also have voices of the AFC South,

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Speaker 2: the other three play by play announcers and I got

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Speaker 2: together at the combine and it's evergreen stuff. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be fun to listen to next week as well. Thank

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Speaker 2: you Johnny, and thank you Jace and Chris for helping

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Speaker 2: us get on the air today. Have a great night everyone.

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Speaker 2: This show is gonna be on podcasts soon. Enough Go Texans,